Today the Japanese Pokémon Sun & Moon official site updated and added Arcanine to the list of Pokémon featured from past generations, along with highlights such as Zubat and Psyduck. Up until this point, many fans have been going off the idea that these Pokémon would not be getting separate Alolan forms since some of them have already been seen as their past-selves in official trailers or pre-release materials. We’ve already seen many Zubats in Alola that are no different than the ones we’ve been seeing for the last twenty years.
Why is this a problem? Because several leaks which have included confirmed information that was not publicly known have also said that Arcanine will be getting a Water-type Alolan form.
Personally, I’m relishing this little plot twist because it gives us something to puzzle over before we get any official answers. Did the leakers add in fake Alolan forms? Will Alola be home to both regular and region-specific forms for the same Pokémon? Are some Alolan forms only accessible after certain conditions are met or even saved for post-game?
Keep these mysteries coming! Tell us what you think in the comments!!
<3 PJ
I’m hopefully rooting for this not to come true
Arcanine are already a bitch to deal with with their newfound bulky builds and Water types today are already pretty solid so that would just be yet another thing to fear
So I say no to Alolan Arcanine we don’t need Alolan forms for EVERYTHING and EVERYONE
Bruv you would love a Alola Rhyperior and Excadrill. Dont lie to me
Yeah, but gamefreak have clearly indicated they want to upset us by only providing alolan forms for Kanto pokemon, just like how they gave the Kanto starter pokemon mega evolutions but neglected the starters of the actual generation mega evolution was introduced in.
You don’t know me
It doesn’t need to change
What possible way would it change
Ground/Steel Rhyperior. That’s how I’ve always imagined a Mega for it, anyway.
Ground/Steel is a way better typing. Makes more sense, considering it’s based on a Rhino. Of course steel type didn’t exist during gen 1 and they did not switch any gen 1 typings when they added steel and dark during gen 2. And before you point to Magnemite, that’s not a switch, they merely added steel typing to it. Since Alola forms have already gone to shit, I’d like a steel typed Ryhorn line to make up for what it always shoulda been, imo. Rock was just a substitute typing
Jarvis’s bitch has spoken
Nrggggghhhhh that means I lose out on my most favorite attack
ROCK WRECKER
Steel-type Rock Wrecker. 🙂
I would like a few Alolan forms of some
okay so i have to be completely honest here, i always take leaks with a grain of salt weather its got some credibility or not, in this case some of the past leaks we have had, have been nothing more than just lucky guessing and mere coincidence, atleast that is how i see it anyway. even though i thought this i let others continue to believe what they wanted, let them theorise and speculate on whats real and what isn’t, these leaks we have been getting may have been proven fake now but they got us to talk didn’t they? we theorised and speculated on whats real, what could be done, what might be and what might evolve etc so on and so fourth, its fun for the most part and it honestly got the community to discuss the games that are up for release in almost 2 months time. so sure they may be fake but its given us fans alot to talk about regardless, plus some of the designs shown by the artist were pretty creative 🙂
Pretty hard to get a characters entire design by pure luck and coincidence.
It’s not hard to lump false information in with real leaks though.
Hence the wrench.
What wrench?
“This is simply a wrench thrown in”.
makes sense, i guess i just don’t like to believe anything until i see an official trailer or information on reliable sources like serebii.net and ofcourse pokejungle.net, that said i just hope we do get the pokemon starters evolutionary lines shown soon since november is literally around the corner, i gotta say tho if the evolutions turn out to be something completely different than the ones that were leaked i wont lie i would be an ass and laugh in their faces, but if they turn out to be right ide be okay with it, ive actually warmed up to the leaked evolutions, i still wish litten’s wasn’t bipedal but it’s still a good design nonetheless
I’ve been hoping the Water Arcanine ‘leak’ was false from day 1.
I would say his point we don’t have enough info to make a full conclusion. We still have no idea why they have that section on the Japanese website. I feel like if it was that important of a section we’d have it on the other official websites as well. Also I’m a little confused as to what the section is even about. It says that they are Pokemon found in Alola, but whether any of them have Alolan forms or not I don’t see a point in making a section for them. If we’re basing Pokemon having and not having new forms on the trailers and whatnot then the list would be huge. Why even bother having a section like that anyway? I doubt this section has any long lasting relevance, but it still confuses me lol
It’s not really a ‘section’, all the Kanto pokemon are lumped in with the alolan pokemon. It exists to show people what pokemon will be available in Alola. They’re all mixed up as well.
Well it’s a subsection really. All the Pokemon are on the same page, but are separated by different descriptions. (i.e. starters, legendary, new Pokemon, etc.)
It’s not a subsection, it’s all a part of their ‘pokedex’ section. The descriptions count for little because they’re formatted differently even bewteen the alolan pokemon.
Also they’re listed mostly in the order they were added, hence Dragonite and Zubat are after Meowth and Marowak but before Sandygast and Palosand.
Ok….I see where our problem is….. click on the actual Pokedex page….On that page all the Pokemon are specifically separated into subsections. I agree with you that the Pokemon in the top ticker are put in the order of their addition to the site tho lol
I see it. The section header is “Pokemon that have been found so far”. i.e. pokemon that have been found in the Alolan region, (thus hinting that they do not have an alolan form).
Hard to say for sure. Yes I agree at face value it is hinting that they won’t have forms, but then again why even bother making that section? The odds are the Alolan forms won’t be crazy wide spread so most Kanto Pokemon won’t have forms anyway. Are they going to add 100 some Pokemon to that section just so people know they won’t have forms? Seems like an odd choice as well as a waste of time. Again I can’t say this section will be of the most importance, but it does seem off just to point out Pokemon that do’t have new forms. Like why oven bother?
The reason for bothering is merely to indicate to people what Kanto pokemon will be returning to the game so that people may start planning which pokemon they would like to use.
They might well do. Or the pokemon revealed might have more significance than what has been revealed so far. They might be in use by the trial captains or team skull for example. Team skull has already been confirmed to use Golbat, so lesser grunts using Zubat would seem likely.
Also some decent info
We are exactly 12 weeks until Sun and Moon
WOOOOHOOO!!! Can’t wait! lol
I just can’t wait to find my Mudbray
He’ll be stubborn, hard headed and one heck of a battler
Just like is new daddy lol
So he’ll have a Hardy nature?
Adamant or Impish
I still want to try the Bulk Up Sitrus Berry Doubles defense build
OHOHOHO STORM DRAIN
Also people everywhere keep thinking Stamina activates on every attack which it don’t
How exactly does Stamina work then?
I was under the impression it activated after every physical attack inflicted on it?
It’s pretty obvious that the first hit you take actives Stamina
It would be pretty ridiculous to let it increases with every attack
I do care for balance
If that were the case it would say so. Quite sure it’s with any physical hit.
Did the leakers add in fake Alolan forms?
Yes. Yes they did.
Hopefully Alolan Abra is fake!
Hey for people that saw my Pokemon go post I got my Electibuzz from 10km!
And I now can say Chinese leak is probably somewhat fake.
It’s a case of either the Japanese website trolling peopleby listing Alolan pokemon in their Kanto form or the chinese leaker trolling people by either outright lying and getting lucky or by mixing lies in with the real leaks to make the lies seem credible and keep people hyped/guessing.
I think Chinese leak is trolling about this in particular:
Alolan Abra, Alolan Growlithe, and Alolan Raticate (unfortunately)
Alolan Raticate is one of the few I would have been happy with since Raticate is pretty ugly and could do with a makeover.
Looks like gamefreak are going to abandon the idea of improving their less liked pokemon and instead just use the pokemon they know are already popular.
I really want it to be Dark type Mega, Alolan just give it Dark Type!!!
Changing the topic slightly, just had a look at Stufful’s lore.
It goes from a creature that hates being touched to one that loves hugging people.
Tsun tsun – dere dere.
was the Chinese leak even the one that said about water arcanine?
Yes yes it was
From the looks of it no it wasn’t, but people keep getting it confused because Pokejungle juxtaposed the chinese leaks with some other leaks from an undisclosed source.
The original chinese leak:
http://pokejungle.net/2016/07/08/rumor-chinese-leaks-predicted-salandit-say-no-gyms/
The juxtaposition:
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/01/chinese-rumor-leaked-starter-evolutions-confirmed-true/
ah thanks buddy for the sources I was so sure the original one never actually mentioned typings of new pokes or anything just the vague hint of new looks for old pokes
It’s ok, I had them to hand because I’d just looked them up to check myself. I wish the article were clearer about the sources or just linked to the old article instead of duplicating the information.
I think it was a subsequent leak that corroborated the Chinese leaks and also talked about Oricorio.
ohhh well the original Chinese leak never mentioned it so it could have been someone trying to hype off its accuracy, don’t care that much either way
Well the person that did mention it predicted oricorio and I think something else, but I can’t remember….maybe Bewears and Mimikyus names? idk, but they definitely got stuff right that’s for sure lol
ah no worry! thanks bud
Nobody ever predicted Bewear or Mimikyu.
The original didn’t actually predict anything that has actually been proven, all of the predictions are still uproven.
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/01/chinese-rumor-leaked-starter-evolutions-confirmed-true/
The chinese rumour is completely separate.
https://m.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4vvori/here_is_a_list_of_all_the_relevant_leaks_that/
You might want to catch up with #4
It didn’t actually predict Bewear’s name, the person actually explicitly said they weren’t going to say what it was.
As for Mimikyu, the Japanese name was already revealed, all they did was say that it would be the same for the English version, which wasn’t really hard to guess given the number of Pikachu-like pokemon that use their Japanese name for their English name or a very close variation of it. Pachirisu and Dedenne were the same, Emolga was one sound off (Emonga), Plusle and Minun were also pretty much the same.
Sorry my bad it wasn’t the Chinese leaks. The names were predicted by another leak tho. Funny enough it was off of 4chan.
the thing im iffy about is that a regular arcanine has already been seen in the wild
In which trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyy-DhwYXI
Ah, the Chinese trailer is slightly different to the Japanese and English ones.
I don’t know if that said it was wild or not because I can’t read chinese, but it looked very much like it, so I’m convinced.
its wild because theres no trainer behind him
assuming the trailers are very accurate as far as that is concerned lol
Most pokemon we have seen has not gotten one. and we rarely saw old pokemon in trailers before alolan forms
Well, to be fair, a level 20 Arcanine was just programmed into the game so they could show off Rockruff
they could pick from many fire types, why arcanine because its a fire dog? why not use growlithe?
Idk, to show it’s powerful.
its a little weird to add it to the website as regular they change it later on
The level is irrelivant.
because fire stone 🙂
Precisely.
People only equate Arcanine with high levels because people usually wait before evolving it because like most stone evolvers it doesn’t learn new moves as it levels up (except for extremespeed at level 34).
But the fact still remains that even if Alola Arcanine is in the game, regular Arcanine is still going to be in the coding. I don’t think this is credible evidence
its credible because it was shown by the pokemon company….
But it’s not an accurate representation of what we’re going to be encountering in the game, so I don’t think it is, GF-released or not. Just because they show off Garchomp and other pokemon during trailers like this doesn’t necessarily mean they’re on the regional dex.
Frankly I don’t think they’d go to the trouble of making level 20 Kanto arcanines appear in the wild just to show off Rockruff, it would be too fiddly and time consuming when they could just pick any old pokemon to pit rockruff against.
If they went to the trouble of putting a Kanto Arcanine in the wild, that would mean they’re actively trying to deceive people.
Honestly I think you’re looking into it too much. It’s just a trailer. Everything is simulated. All we know for sure is that regular Arcanine is in the game, either through trading or catching. But an Alola form could still be possible. The leaker obviously had some credible evidence and while it could be fake or the typing could even be wrong, I think there’s a crumb of evidence there.
Specially simulating scenarios just for a trailer is more effort than it would be worth. It would make much more sense to simply run into the wild and battle the first non-new pokemon available.
The leaker who propes the alolan Arcanine hasn’t actually been right about anything yet I might add.
I thought the Alolan Arcanine guy was the same guy who said stuff about the starters and some other pokemon?
No, that’s just the way pokejungle juxtaposed it. They posted some unrelated leaks and then shoved the chinese leaks underneath and people keep mistaking them as being from the same source.
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/01/chinese-rumor-leaked-starter-evolutions-confirmed-true/
Oh…yeah then I don’t really believe it. Ugh, I feel like I wasted time saying that it’s still possible haha
This is the problem, we need a better way of tracking the rumours and leaks really 😛
This is also why I made sure to check before I started taking sides 😛
The leak that had Alolan Arcanine hasn’t got anything right so far. It hasn’t been explicitly disproven yet, but it is no more likely than any other rumour. Other rumours have piggy backed off it though because of people’s reactions to the fighting type Abra line and the water type Growlithe line. It’s got to the point where people start taking it as the word of god purely because so many other leaks refer back to it and they’ve formed strong opinions about whether they love/hate the idea.
Notice though that the pokemon people care less about (e.g. Doduo and Rattata) have been completely forgotten about in the process because fakers know nobody is going to get hyped about them, they purposely target the ‘cool’ pokemon.
Anyway, no harm done, just keep your salt handy for future rumours XD
Didn’t the same rumor that predicted Oricorio, Alolan forms, No gyms, and Bewear and Mimikyu also say there’s an Alolan Arcanine?
Hm, well I kinda hope it’s not true though..I don’t want a fighting type abra line lol
Then explain Hariyama, Magnazone, Metagross, Garchomp, Salamence, Archeops. All of them found in wild battles in trailers. In the most random of places.
One: the Arcanine is a wild Arcanine specifically, a Poke Ball icon is next to the HP bar to indicate the player already has one (this doesn’t appear in situations where you can’t use Poke Balls)
Two: this would be the first time such a major disparity occurred between trailer wild encounters and final game wild encounters – we have seen dozens upon dozens of trailers for games now
Three: fully evolved Pokemon, stone or not, were common enough in Unova
Look on the bright side, if this leak proves to be false, this also means that:
A) Non-alolan form Kanto pokemon might be catchable in alola
B) we don’t have to put up with some of the stupid alolan forms mentioned in the leak
C) We can kiss goodbye to the rumour about the starters having two final evolutions
and D. All of the above
it wont make any sense if the nen alolan pokemon are catchable in alola because the reason why they changed was to adapt to the enviroment of alola
pikachu, eevee and ledyba are catchable in alola
It would if there’s a safari zone.
Then they wouldn’t be called Alolan forms. by your logic, old versions of the Pokemon in the safari zone should still be called Alolan forms since they both are native to alola.
aren’t safari zones main purpose to catch pokemon not native to the region you’re in though? as well as rare pokemon? (with the exception of Kanto of course because they only had gen 1 pokemon at that point obv.)
Perhaps in game, but lore-wise, it’s just Pokemon in a region (kinda like a national park I think).
I was talking lore-wise not game wise, although I’m sure thats true as well, at least thats what I always thought the safari zones were for
Safari zones specifically import pokemon that aren’t native to the region, just like how zoos import animals from different countries.
Ok, let’s put it this way.
Bristol Zoo has many Gorillas, but that doesn’t mean Gorillas are native to Britain.
Kanto had a safari zone, but the pokemon in it weren’t native to Kanto (though clearly the safari zone had been there long enough for the Exeggutors to have shrunk). Similarly the pokemon in Hoenn’s safari zone weren’t native to Hoenn, they were all Kanto or Johto pokemon. The only exceptions are Oddish, Marill, Goldeen and Magikarp which either were native to Hoenn and managed to sneak into the safari zone or which weren’t native and managed to sneak out into the wild.
Alola could have a safari zone filled with Kanto pokemon and they wouldn’t be considered native.
Say the safari zone had Kanto form Meowths – Meowths in the wilds of Alola that are Alolan form are native to Alola but the ones in the safari zone aren’t native, they’ve been specifically imported.
almost all the new leaks are confirmed fake, aside from the starters final evolutions,
Hey guys, finally got an account on Pokejungle, but i’ve been a fan of this site for ages! Honoured to be part of this community.
If anyone wants to ask me any questions about my experiences with Pokemon or about me in general, feel free, i’m all game.
(P.S. this avatar is fanart I did not make, I just kinda googled Rockruff Fanart and its near the top…Props to the artist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Lz9FtfGcc
also welcome, dont forget to take off your shoes and leave them in the cubby area
I will have you know I am extremely tough…I watched the ending to Mystery Dungeon: Explorers Of Sky and only cried for two hours
welcome to the family
Good to be here!
My taco meat and vegetables have quite a lot of sodium. i hope I’m salty enough
Welcome 🙂
Thanks! 🙂
Welcome to the family! My question is what was your first ever shiny?
My first ever shiny was a Doduo that I found in a Friend Safari in Pokemon X! What was yours?
Mine was a shiny azurill in black 2. The best part was it had huge power and became my mvp
Oh god I have never used a Huge Power Azumarill, tried to find one in White 2 but they all had Thick Fat so I gave up and tried out a Psyduck….How powerful is Huge Power Azumarill?
Pretty powerful actually! Swept through Burgh,Clay and Skyla (with ice punch) like it was nothing! I highly recommend one
If I find an Azurill in Alola I will give it a go in a later playthrough!
Shiny Azumarill is pretty cool..
Always nice to welcome new members! Is your favorite Pokémon Rockruff?
Its possibly my favourite of the Alola Pokemon and I will definitely want one on my team, and its quickly become my girlfriend’s favourite thing ever…However, my favourite Pokemon is actually Volcarona!
That’s actually one of my favorites too! Nice choice 🙂
I have a fondness for a tonne of Gen 5 Pokemon like Volcarona and Zoroark, but also love Pokemon like Ampharos and Typhlosion
I think Gen 5 is my favorite gen design-wise, even though there are some misfits
I have to agree with you there, Gen 5 is my favourite generation but I will never be able to respect Throh or Sawk
I hate those guys too
Bit of hate for Cryogonal too, and some for Emboar….Maybe some for the Snivy line because of terrible move pool
I dislike Cryogonal as well. Its face is just weird. I think there was a better design hiding in there somewhere and they just screwed up. Emboar is…not great. I like the Snivy line design (Serperior is great, imo) but the movepool and typing suck. (Grass is the worst type ever) BUT Contrary redeems it a bit.
Oh Contrary is fantastic with Leaf Storm, I just wish it had decent moves that weren’t Grass type…I love the design of the Snivy line though
I will disagree and claim that Fighting is worst type, not a fan of it
I mean I like a lot of grass pokemon, but 5 weaknesses is just absurd to me. And then when you pair it with some other types, the results aren’t pretty
I see what you mean…Grass/Fire type would counter a few of the weaknesses
Yeah, I want that typing so badly.
Well some recent “leak” claims Bounsweet’s evolution will have that typing…But again, chances of it being legit are not great
Idk if I believe that part. A berry into a pepper? Seems weird.
>:( I happen to love my Throh and Sawk
I’m sorry, but when Bert and Ernie became Pokemon I had to pass
They’re so ugly and the designs make no fucking sense
…. they are a fighting type in karate outfits… O_o that makes 100% sense design wise…?
But how do they get robes? Why do they have weird eyebrows? Why do they seem to consist of polygons? They look like someone glued them together with all of the random lines on their bodies.
That’s their bodies
Well it’s dumb and they’re ugly. I don’t like pokemon that hold/wear real objects. It doesn’t make any sense.
They don’t hold nothing
Their skin is just white that resembles a gi
Ughh I don’t like that either
Too bad
http://orig02.deviantart.net/43a6/f/2011/352/e/3/oni_sawk_and_throh_by_mblock-d4jh5ca.png
They look better like that honestly
I know they should’ve done one…..Fighting/Electric and Fighting/Water/Flying
A thunder oni sounds like my kinda Pokemon
Fighting/Electric is a combo I didn’t know that I wanted..but now do
People keep badgering that Electivire should be one
I want to see something not too obvious
Maybe a literal Storm Giant
A hulking humanoid Pokemon with large horns and cloud like facial hair that live atop stormy peaks to catch lightning
well you don’t have to like them, no one is going to like every pokemon, but you cant say that they don’t work design wise just because you don’t like them
Well design wise is one thing, but logically it perplexes me. Like when you hatch them from the egg they already have the object.
Well you must compromise the games coding and modeling
Tia a battle you’ll surely lose
I know…but it still kinda bothers me.
… pokemon has never been 100% logical mean come on, its a fictional game about monsters that battle each other and fit in your pocket and you’re bothered by their aesthetics 😛
Alright, fair enough
As Pokemon though? I don’t think so as such…It kind of makes sense with Crabrawler for its claws to resemble boxing gloves, but with Hitmonchan and Throh/Sawk its always been bizarre to me
Well technically they were meant to be Onis but they clashed with the Kami trio so it was scrapped
-Looks at tympole, palpitoad, and the klink line-
It’s always nice seeing a fellow gen 5 lover!
Well my mascot is a magnificent Haxorus so yeah 🙂
Gen 5 had some of the best designs, imo.
I concur with that statement
Yay, Volcarona is my favorite too!
Volcarona hype!
It’s beautiful and powerful
As for all newcomers
Thou must endure numerous (and increasingly lethal) hardship trials to be inducted into this establishment
Greetings Earthen, I am ready for my trials…Would you be one of the sacred Trial Captains?
More of a deranged lunatic really
But enough chit chat
Wear this Basculin suit and make your way across this Ursaring populated forest all while covered in honey
Gladly, Deranged Lunatic Earthen
*frolics through the forest gleefully*
*Ursaring catch a scent of the honey and proceed to maul you*
*Adamant in my Basculin ways, Superpower the s*** out of the Ursaring*
*use Superpower on one Urasring*
*your attack and defense drop one stage*
*it gets annoyed and slashes you easier*
*Rough Skin activates, Ursaring refuse to touch me and tentatively scoop the Honey off my body*
You don’t have rough skin
Your some sap in a cumbersome suit covered in sticky honey
I AM A BEAUTIFUL BASCULIN, AND I WILL THANK YOU TO RESPECT THAT
Your just food for the Urasring
They just want the honey though, they can lather it off my wonderful body
Lather it off with razor sharp teeth and claws
Or their tongues, be bathing in Ursaring saliva…I’ve heard its wonderful for the pores
T_T I think we should proceed to the next test
*hands you a round ball*
Next test hold this ball until I say so
YAY I LOVE TESTS….wait *grabs ball* i’m ready
*a pair of eyes open up and begin glaring*
Oh hey there little buddy!… Uhm, Earthen, why is this ball staring at me?
It’s a voltorb I painted
This one is easily agitatable
Cya
*Uses escape rope*
How on earth did it let you paint it if its easily agitated? And how did you pick it up to give it to me? And why is it now glowi-
I’M BLASTING OFF AGAIN
I sedated it
Well now that’s just Poke Cruelty… OFFICER JENNY!
How is that cruel
Sedation is a harmless process that allows practitioners to operate on Pokemon
And technically owners can specially mark their Pokemon in a way that is to show ownership as long as it doesn’t cause discomfort
But did this Voltorb really want you to paint it? As an easily agitated Voltorb, I do doubt it
Just stop thinking and focus on not getting your limbs not blown off
If Team Rocket can manage it, i’m sure i’ll be fine
Balls. Hehe.
What’s your favorite type?
I would have to go with either the Dark or the Psychic type… I have a fondness for Sp. Attackers so Dark/Psychic/Fairy/Fire all work fantastically for those moves
Honestly Golduck and Crobat ( even tho not a gen 1) are still able to receive alolan forms
because we only saw their pre evolutions
If they won’t give Crobat a mega then it would be nice to give it an Alolan form
Hopefully a Psychic one for golduck and idk I’m good with whatever for Crobat and so Id probably love anything they did for an alolan one
Maybe a Dark/Flying which is a vampire bat? Don’t know the circumstances why it changed but who cares
I was thinking dark too, either poison/dark or dark/flying or something
Crobat could easily become Poison/Dark
Personally I think Alolan forms will only be found in extreme environments where adaptation was needed to survive. I think regular forms will be found in less harsh places.
I remember reading that you need to transfer regular forms from gen 6 to get them?
That was from the same leak that suggested the Water Arcanine in the first place ironically XD
I’m pretty sure nintendo/GF has said it too though, that you can’t get normal forms of pokemon that have an alolan form in the wild you have to transfer them
Yhap, It only makes sense like that.
If they have, feel free to provide a link proving that.
To my knowledge nothing official has announced it, people have just taken it to be fact and forgotten the origin of the statement.
ok so I looked on the official site and I guess it just said certain pokemon are thriving in the Alola region, I was thinking of serebii, at the top of their Alola form page they have ” in the Alola Region, various Pokémon have become different to how they are in other regions.” but tbh I don’t think we really need confirmation on some of the pokemon that we will have to transfer pokemon from old games to get the originals, like Pikachu, cubone, and eggsecute because any one you catch in the alola region will turn into the alola form, however they could have the ones where their lines are completely redone return, like ice vulpix and fire vulpix could both be in the game in different locations, but I wouldn’t hold my breath
I agree that the ‘alolan forms’ of some might only exist in certain areas. It might be possible to get fire Vulpix in the volcano and ice Vulpix in the snowy area.
This is why I said elsewhere that a safari zone could justify their presence on the island though. In Hoenn a lot of Kanto/Johto pokemon were found only in the safari zone so an Alola safari zone could be an in-game way of obtaining Kanto form pokemon.
yeah I saw that, I tried to back up that claim you made to because it could make total sense
It would be more than sense, it would be good worldbuilding and breathing life back into an old mechanic, which is starting to be a bit of a theme in recent years.
Didn’t the official site say you can only obtain the normal forms by transfering from past games? I think there may be some forms that are exclusive to one part of Alola, but I believe they will state so when they are announced.
If it did, I can’t find it.
We don’t actually know anything about where certain pokemon can be found yet. We don’t even know which islands the individual Oricorio forms correspond to.
In which case you’re still saying the leak that said there was an alolan Arcanine is fake because it said Kanto-form pokemon can’t be caught in Alola and they have to be transferred.
You know…..it IS possible some things from that leak are real and some aren’t…..The whole thing doesn’t have to be thrown out just because of one slip up. They still got Oricorio right. And I think (in part) Ninetails.
No, they didn’t predict Oricorio or Ninetales, that was a different leak.
The subsequent leak for the Chinese leaks did predict Oricorio tho. It was a Reddit leak that agreed with the Chinese leaks. Plus while they were wrong about ninetails’s first type they got the fairy typing right
It was unrelated to the Chinese leaks, it was from 4chan.
They messed up the ice typing which is pretty bad, so fairy was probably a lucky guess.
The only things they got right (though only partially right) are the no gyms (which still isn’t 100% confirmed) and the alolan forms (but they didn’t name them that). The oricorio thing was mostly right, but quite cryptic and only mentioned an appearance change, not a type change. Given it’s 4chan, it might not all be from the same person.
#4
https://m.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4vvori/here_is_a_list_of_all_the_relevant_leaks_that/
Has any leak been 100% correct yet? I’m not saying anything is fake until the game comes out, except that of which has already been concluded as fake
Legitimate leaks most of the time have incorrect info thrown in there as well. Even XY’s big leak that had Fairy type, new Pokemon, etc, had the starter evolutions typings “wrong” (Just had Chespin’s and Froakie’s switched).
Getting the typings muddled hardly constitutes the leak being considered a failure though, that’s just a minor human error.
It got other things wrong as well, didn’t say any leak was a failure. Just that most legitimate leaks have misinformation in there.
Which other things?
http://www.pokebeach.com/2013/06/pokebeach-x-y-rumor-roundup-and-clarifications
So gym order, the professor’s name and the starter thing, all of which were minor. Otherwise pretty much everything else was correct (aside from a few spellings, but that might have been the result of mistranscribing.
The starter typings might have actually been correct the first time round. They mention a ‘late correction’ in which the types were ‘corrected’ to being the wrong way round.
The starter typings were correct the first time, but the leaker changed them.
Yes, so even legitimate leaks sometimes have misinformation. So Alola Arcanine could just fall into that not coming true part.
Typings and having an alola form would be pretty hard to screw up unless the person has only ever dealt with ideas and doesn’t know which ideas got scrapped.
Messing up the typings of the starters isn’t too hard, it would make sense to think a ninja frog would be water type and a chestnut thing might be part dark.
So far the chinese leak holds the record for the most accurate information.
It predicted the Z-Moves and (to a degree) the Trial captains.
I think regular forms will be found in Kalos :3
smart man.
I feel like we’ll get to go back but I also have a feeling we’ll get something similar to the Sinjoh(?) ruins
Exactly
Ever since Meowth and Raichu totally threw a wrench in the logic Alolan forms could be freaking anything without any logical explanation
AND I REALLY HATE THOSE
Meowth is suppose to be evil rich cat
Ehhh I can vaguely see that but the deal was Extreme microclimates forcing select Pokemon to change and adapt
that was only with first 4. Meowth was bred to be like that.
bred for purrfection
But that’s what Alolan forms should only be
Why? give some alolan forms unique backstorys instead of the same “IT HAD TO SURVIVE SO IT CHANGED TYPES”
There would have to be a reason for it to adapt, otherwise I don’t see why it would need to change. I have respected all Alolan forms besides Raichu because they at least gave reasons as to how it could happen….But with Raichu, they slapped on Psychic typing (which is a decent type combo) but had no way to explain it, and that irked me
I think we’re the same person..
We are? How so?
You like Volcarona and we have similar opinions! 😛
Psychic is a mysterious type, its like magic and stuff. so making it so Raichu gaining it is mysterious and strange fits the type well
I can kind of see that, but then they could have given a backstory to it…..I mean, Alakazam’s comes from its high IQ, I believe Gardevoir’s comes from the protusion on its chest… Something like that, instead of “eh, it ate tonnes of sweet pancakes?”
well, the backstory is thats its mysterious how it gained the type, its making the alolans folks “think” what made it change, psychics are mostly used with a state of mind so it makes sense that raichu type is making everyone “think” what happend
It would still be nice to have a believable reason though, that’s just something I would appreciate seeing
Raichu is just an example of GF throwing Raichu a bone xD I appreciate it tbh, Raichu needed some attention
yea but thats true. but hey it making you wonder too. so maybe im not that wrong at all 😉
It still feels like a bit of a cop-out on Game Freak’s part, ngl
Raichu’s description is literally a huge pisstake, and honestly I’m still annoyed at gf for it
also fun fact the website says
” SOME Pokémon have adapted to the distinctive microclimates of the Alola region, taking on different forms than they have in other regions.”
That’s just clarifying that not every Pokemon has an Alolan form, I believe, not implying that Pokemon changed for reasons besides the microclimates
hm but meowth has proven not all are climate change
You know what…Touche, my good man, you have me there
Meowth wasn’t too crazy since it was specifically bred over many years to take the form it did.
Raichu is pretty odd though. I’d be more ok with it if it didn’t use its tail to surf and it could actually just build its own surfboard or learnt to use felled trees to surf with.
Everyday is Tortilla day :]
Thanks Tortilla Man for bringing us joy and happiness mixed with meat and vegetables
And fruits
anything can happen in a Tortilla battle
If there is indeed both kinds, then it will be interesting to see how the ones that turn into alolan forms evolve.
I’d assume the ones that use evolve items would use new evolve items, the only issue then is Cubone to Marowak, that’s level up, yet a Ground Cubone becomes Ghost/Fire Marowak. So either special conditions need to be met, or the original forms don’t exist in Alola without sending them from other games.
The alolan forms who are completely different throughout their evolution are fine, as it doesn’t effect them, though fire stone for ice vulpix is still odd, but those who become Alolan forms it does.
So I know that food pokemon are generally disliked but I just had an idea for a fakemon where the first form is a fortune cookie sticking its tongue out and then it evolves into a scroll, since I think that’s what they’re supposed to resemble.
or a tortilla pokemon, and give it the move wrap :]
….yes.
You should work for the Yokai Watch people
Haha some of them are strange though. Like the one that’s a butt lol
and the hungry grandpa
O god that’s scary. I haven’t actually played the game though.
its actually not that bad, its enjoyable
Maybe I’ll watch a playthrough and get a feel for it
theres a demo on the eshop
I heard the demo wasn’t good though
true it did kinda suck
I hate that one
What? But almost everyone, me included, hates that little TPS midget and his recolored sibling.
Well it is ugly
You mean Cheeksqueek my third Favorite
There are some things that just shouldn’t exist… xD
Like this guy
Ew, yes
Lips look like Ickis from ARM (Aaahh!!! Real Monsters)
So my amigos, why think of having a water type Alola form arcanine, when we can have a dark type arcanine….
I call it Darkanine
Or a dragon type tortilla
Tortidra
Dragtilla
Sounds like a drag queen tortilla
sounds like pre evolution for turtonator
That almost sounds like how an Argentinean might pronounce “Tortilla”
Dankanine the meme form
no mention of the fact wild arcanines are seen in the rockruff trailers?
Yea, i’ve mentioned it below
What if I take two standard Vulpix (one female and one male) and release them into the wild in Alola?
Will Fire Type Vulpix once again reign in Alola?
Well as long as they survive
But the populace would be heavily inbred
I’ll make sure they’re good IV Vulpix
That wouldn’t matter, the IVs would get watered down and randomised over the years. Good IVs only remain good if they’re bred in captivity under the right conditions 😛
If a breed a Vulpix with a Alolan Vulpix will i get a unique egg move?
I hope we get more offical news on the 1st
We probably will
I’m glad there’s no water arcanine, I couldn’t see it having a good design
I can’t see a design we all could agree on but alas that is life.
All washed up XD loving these puns.
I forget, have any of the trailers shown a normal Golduck yet? I really want my Psychic/Water Alolan Golduck.
In fact, maybe we should document what Pokemon have been in seen in trailers w/o Alolan forms just to narrow this down. The only one I can remember off the top of my head is Gengar.
They should just retcon Golduck and add psychic type..no one would be upset.
I’m way ahead of ya
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