With the latest Pokémon Sun & Moon information, we can now say that the rumors seem to be true. Not only the Poké Riding, but at least with the leaked Starter Evolutions we can clearly see one of the Trial Captains in the art, and the final evolution of Litten is probably holding two of its middle evolutions.
4chan Rumor
For now these are going to be de-confirmed since a number of Pokémon listed appear not to be getting an Alolan form
The anime’s Ash-Greninja will appear in the gameAlolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-typeAlolan Butterfree is Bug/PsychicAlolan Abra, Kadabra & Alakazam are Fighting-typeAlolan Nidoking & Nidoqueen are Poison/Fighting-typeAlolan Growlithe & Arcanine are Water-typeAlolan Doduo & Dodrio are Fighting/Flying-typeThe previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older gamesFurfrou gets new stylesNew cat Pokémon varies in type and appearance based on breedingThere is a new snowman Pokémon line with two stages and it is Ice/GhostNot to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter
Chinese Rumor
- There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
- The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
- The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
- New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
- Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
- Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo
<3 PJ
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I’m sad and confused right now..
WHO CARES?!?! WE GET A FRICKIN DOLPHIN IVE WAITED MT WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS MOMENT
Haha, I hope for ur sake it’s worth the wait and not a let down 😉
I still am shocked they will go whole Siren at us with Poplio. Seems like this will be the first gen I won`t go with Water or maybe I will but give him an everstone after the first evolution.
So birdy it is for me. I guess
The weird thing is that they released Mallow with all this information floating around, guess they had no choice.
This is so exciting.
Guess I gotta pick Popplio as my starter instead of Litten. 🙁
NOOOOO. If lween litten evoles into that low T cell best I will not be happy
The fire guy Kiawe is supposed to have a marowak. Fire-type Marowak confirmed?!
Not going to lie, I’ve already grown with these starters! Their not too bad. I’m quite sure that Litten will be a Fire/Dark Type tho. Anyways, here’s some info from the Jap Trailer.
– Hala gives you the Z-Ring to use Z-Moves.
– This does debunk my theory, but the gems you get depend on type.
– Hala uses three Pokemon, so I assume he’s the first Kahuna you fight.
Also, it seems like you meet the Trial Captins outside of their “Gyms”. So, that means there will be some personality and potential story use to them similar to Gen 5. Lasty, S/M are the best looking games in the series by far! rf.
I love how in the part of the trailer the second picture is of, there is just a random Tauros walking in the background.
umm looks like it’s gonna be rowlet for me since littens evo sucks and popplios looks way too girly for my taste…
MY BRAIN CANNOT COMPUTE ERROR ERROR ARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHGGHGGGHHHGGH…….
please reboot EarthenProgram27.exe……or return to manufacturer…..
still do not know what to feel <//////3 good thing Rowlet's final evo is good 🙁
Just what I was looking for! It’s insane that all these leaks are coming true!
So much information that I had to watch both the Japanese and English version of the info!
I’m actually growing more to like these starter evos, they’re gonna look even better in game I know it!
Totem Pokemon Predictions:
Island 1 – Gumshoos
Island 2 – Rockruff Final Evolution
Island 3 – Lurantis
Island 4 – Mudsdale
I guess so yes
Ash-Greninja appears in the game, what how?
They just add ’em in there through coding and such. ;D
But is it just AG or the transformation mechanic?
In the anime it seems to be a temporary transformation and if they in incorporate a stamina gauge, then it should be fine.
“Minior’s core will change color depending on the particular color of the debris it has absorbed. Its pastel coloration has a cute look, so this Pokémon is often used as a design motif for clothing and accessories.”
New clothing confirmed.
Minior is just here trying to be fabulous 🙂
There’s one thing the leak got wrong though. “Ninetails (Fire/Fairy)”
Well hold on to your butts, not everything there is 100% confirmed!
Like 90%.
Probs, but I’m expecting the types of the alolan forms to be inaccurate but everything else to check out fine.
The Chinese rumor also stated that the island leaders would be fought after travelling to each island, which is false.
Well how much time after traveling to the islands is debatable.
The English site says that you can only move onto the next island after defeating the leader.
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/the-rite-of-the-island-challenge/ Under “Grand Trials”
typo?
I doubt it, chinese for Ice isn’t very close to chinese for Fire.
The mechanic was spot on though, and it wasn’t something obvious.
I think I might use the alolan Vulpix/Ninetales in these games. It’s SO gorgeous. I mean… look at this fanart 😛 *refresh*
I’m deff using it on my team :3
Gorgeous!!! <3
Already?! Wtf people work fast
I know right? It’s amazing how they can draw this fast!
It’s gotten to a point where I’m not really even surprised anymore.
ARTGHHHHHHH
EXCADRILL IRON HEAD NOW!!!!!!
I knew it! My predictions are correct! The anime ‘IS’ going to be a reflection towards Diamond and Pearl, just like X and Y is for Advance. For it’ll be Mallow who will have Rowlet (female trainers get the bird starters), whilst Ash will get both Litten and Popplio. Which then later on, Litten would eventually evolve into Panthster, who would then act in a similar disobedient fashion to Charizard. I knew those final evolutions are real.
Everyone asking for Ice Pokemon
…well you got four
Still no Dark Types though…
Technically 2
nope. four.
If this is true, it means I get to raise Nidoqueen again but under a different typing. She was my childhood favourite. I’m so happy I could cry xD
Omg! I feel like Ice Ninetails is a dragons worst nightmare! Lol! Also so these Pokemon have different types I assume they’ll have access to different moves
ARCANINE WATER TYPE?? WTF
Think of how MAJESTIC that BEAST will look~!!
S/M anime: Ash creates the Alola League and the anime ends and a new one begins, announcing the beginning of a new era of Pokemon.
well we are also might get a fire Cubone line/ or just marowak
Maybe it’ll have a flaming stick to twirl fitting with the Hawaiian theme
or its gonan be like primal
I wonder why they didn’t show Exeggcute?
They did…?
They did in the Japanese trailer
because its 6 eggs on a stick
It might have the same form as from other regions. Eggs don’t really evolve much aesthetically.
It stays the same. It’s in the JP trailer.
With Alolan variants, will Pikablu finally be a thing?
Surfing dat wave!
Marill being an Alolan Pikachu confirmed.
Honestly it doesn’t make any sense that lurantis isn’t a bug type. It’s based on an orchid mantis which mimics the look of flowers to cloak itself…so it should basically be like sudowoodo, where it isn’t the type that it’s trying to be. Fail. Also, I’d expect a few variations of that pokemon.
Maybe it’s the opposite, a plant trying to look like a mantis lol
Ehhh I doubt it
This actually might be what they were going for 🙂
Or that it’s been acting as a plant for so long, it became one
I forgot when typings in Pokemon began to make sense majority of the time… ;P
It just bothers me..!
I know. But we kind of already have Leavanny so it would be redundant imo. And I don’t like that 4x fire weakness.
Well it could’ve just been pure bug. There aren’t too many of those. It’s a better type than pure grass anyway
Um, but there’s tons of bugs…
We just got a palm tree that is Grass/Dragon! What did you expect?
Actually I think the dragon type comes from the Madagascar dragon tree
Lmfao, yeah anything could happen at this point. Shits about to hit the fan y’all
Think of if this way: Instead of the bug mimicking the plant, the plant is mimicking the bug. Therefore, Formantis and Lurantis are Grass-types mimicking Bug-types.
I still don’t think that was their intention
I think so. Game Freak isn’t all too literal with their Pokémon designs. They’re been known to put little twists on things.
We’ve honestly gotten so many bugs already, that I don’t even care. Plus I know all never use anything so shrilly on my team so I can let this typing fail slide.
Now that my initial shock of all this is over. Im really dissapointed in the final starter evolutions. I know some of you love them but I’m really like my pokes to be aesthetically pleasing before anything and these three don’t cut it for me. However I’m warming up to the idea of still using littens Evo but only if it’s not a fighting type. Dark I would love but if it’s fighting as its design I plus I’m gonna cry. Mermaid pop olio isn’t bad either tbh, but it’s just an extremely jarring transformation. I’ll use it in Sun when I play as a female character.
But now I’m more so concerned with why ice/steal sandshrew is still called SANDshrew
Yet again, I’m not sure that HMs will be returning, which I’m ecstatic about. It’s about time majority of them were removed! The image shows a special Pokeball and device that allows you to use the rideable Pokemon. I’m assuming it acts as a PC and you call upon them at any time!
Where did you get this HQ picture?
New S/M info due for August 12th, confirmed by Serebii on Twitter.
I think we’ll need a batch if revives to even make it that far.
I can’t handle all this, GF keep doing it, but I might faint with all this madness xD
i literally had a headache right after watching the trailer :<
Wow, I can’t believe they announced it already. More new Pokemon are coming soon, although I feel content already 😛
Already?! I’m not complaining though, but I don’t know if I’m going to able to handle all of this haha
Stop. My heart can’t take much more!
CoroCoro’s news, I guess
August always had reveled something big
True. I remember that day when Megas were leaked.
So can we fiiiinally have that tropical Orange Islands Vileplume with the spots on its petals? Maybe make it grass/fairy?
Pink Pokemon
Ughhhhhhhhhhh at least I have Mudbray….
Unicorn Alolan Fairy type variant
Why would they’re be an Alolan variant when they already friggin live there
…… Shhhhh the Fairy types have come to take over
Don’t fret, I’m sure there will be more ground types
Dude we can ride our Ground horses!
how mad would be u be if Alolan Ryhorn line became Fairy
It will never ever happen
well we never thought variants would be a thing
Never thought exeggcutor would be a dragon but here we are, tail head and all
Remember Pink Rhyhorn from Orange Islands
Is anyone Elle worried this gen may have less battles in the story line ( like with leaders or elite 4 or equivalents etc, )
Yet again:
4 Trail Captians
4 Kahunas
Elite Four
Champion
Will there be a champion and elite 4 though?
I doubt it. There will be something equivalent but since there is no league, then no.
I think the problem comes from this quote about the Island Trials: “These trials are not limited to battling with Pokémon.”
I feel like a lot of people missed that their would still be 8 trainers that’ are basically gym leaders
Not really. I welcome the change.
The kahunas sound like tough battles, and I’d rather have tough battles than a lot of weak ones.
I bet Hala is only the first leader (possibly 2nd “gym” in case his fight comes after the first trial) which is why he only has 3 Pokemon… I’d hope the other leaders and trial guys have more than that.
I hope so. Only 3 Pokemon is the most ridiculous rule.
No because from what I’ve seen, there seems ti be even more battles! We have the totem Pokemon of each island, the island captains if each island, and then the kahuna of each island. And that’s just the first part! Plus, Alola is known for its love of battles and fhe unique ways of incorporating them into their culture.
I don’t think there will eb less battle. I think they are just adding extra stuff to do. It’ll be way more interesting rather than just barreling through a gym one battle after the next. Hopefully more fun too! lol
Yeah…
I love Alolan Ninetales. Do you think it will be any good in battle ? Do you think Alolan firms will have different stats ?
Yes! It’s a Ice/Fairy! The stats will differ likely between the Pokemon.
Alolan Ninetales might just be the best thing I have ever seen
so… if these leaks are true I have some hope left for Litten
Cant have my Litten bae bipedal
and ruined, it needs to be saved with the day version of the final evo. The wrestler is so ugly it has to be the night (dark room) version
hm thinking about it since Alakazam could be getting a fighting type form. Would that megas are not gonna be in it or will his mega also get a retyping ?
YA BOOOOOOIIII!!!! I never doubted them lol I really hope Litten’s evo isn’t fighting type, but the designs themselves are totes amazing!!! lol I can’t wait to actually have a brand new adventure that we have never had before!! This gen is gonna be the best yet! lol
Ike I’m pumped
Littens final is rumored to be fire/dark and i think it makes sense because it holds alot of pride and pride is a sin
Litten’s final evolution design is a sin
its not that bad. It grew onto me alot.
Littens final evolution looks like it just escaped from Rikers
It’s funny I actually as a kid used to dream of a Ninetales that would go from ice type to fire type with overheat and reverse with another ice type move… Doesn’t make much sense but it’s amazing how that dream has come true! ( in a way…).
Honestly I used to think of an ice type Ninetails when I was a kid too (I saw it’s shiny form and was like, what if..)
I’d like to point out that each of the Trial Captains can be seen wearing a pendant, with some kind of colored gem representative of their type: 🙂
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/aug_1_assets/52_capk.png
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/aug_1_assets/764_caps.png
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/aug_1_assets/097_capm.png
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/aug_1_assets/073_capl.png
hm maybe the new badge case thingy lol
So Gym Badges, just with no gyms…
I think you need to open your mind friend. The gyms are still there. they’re just not quite the same. A gym challenge is where you go around challenging different skilled trainers at their respective home base. this is basically that, but now we get to do extra stuff instead of just battling.
Basically this. I welcome the change, given that I’m more of a puzzle oriented person myself 🙂
These remind me of King, Diane, and Meliodus from 7 Deadly Sins! Especially the 2nd, corpulent guy he reminds me a lot of King.
Don’t say that name in my presence………
Why?
It hurts too much……..
I’m sorry. :C
Diane……?
I noticed that. I thought it might act as badges. We still have a Trainer Card. So, I assumed so.
Numbuh 55’s Alola Form-Fire
That Sword Dance animation tho (in Japanese trailer during the Oriocorio part) <3
Not too much of a change, but I like it better than the 6th gen animation
It’s that good lighting engine! 😉
Why couldn’t they just leave Litten as a Quadruped? ;~;
Rightt!? Gah! You got me started! xD T.T
The same company that made Samurott a quadruped, I stopped questioning them a long time ago
I’ve been a fan of the games since the originals came out all those many years ago when I was just a kid.
Today was the first time I have been truly shocked by what Pokemon have done, and I absolutely love it. This is a fantastic breath of fresh air and something I thought would never ever happen.
New Pokemon. Old Pokemon. New typing New designs. It just doesn’t get better.
Alola here I come. 🙂
you could almost say this series is…evolving!
(I’ll see myself out)
Get outta here! 🙂
But seriously, a lot of cool stuff is happening.
gimme my Seel variant
#GiveSeelSomeLove
Seel is amazing <3 If that happened I might cry in happiness
Make it Rock/Fairy idc make it useful and adorable
HAHAHA, already seeing that little guy in avatars. Cool!
I appreciate how they are focusing on making every pokemon unique and have variety as well as their desire to make your trainer experience have more potential and variety as well.
i wish i could play pokemon moon when it is selling =/ they dont sell 3DS here on Brazil anymore and it will cost me too much to get one legally =/
Are you sure? My Brazilian friend just bought a new 3DS after her old one broke. She’s a huge Nintendo fan, though I do know she has a lot of trouble getting games and customer support.
Vê no mercado livre, você encontra 3ds por menos de 600.
OH…MY GOD. A PERSON WHO STARTED WITH THE ORIGINALS…WHO ISN’T AGAINST EVERYTHING AFTER TOGEPI. THIS COMMUNITY IS IMPROVING SOMEWHAT
They really are going all-out for the 20th anniversary. =]
I was 9 when Pokemon came out, and I treat all generations equally…my (very long) list of favorites covers every single one. 😉
Super Mario RPG crossovers, anyone?
Mallow? Let’s go?
Like I predicted back in February, I expected Sun and Moon to be revolutionising the franchise, and I was spot on.
I’m so happy it’ll be different. The games have been good up until now, but the whole system has gotten stale. If they go back to them after this then fine, but this is definitely a breath of fresh air lol
I’m glad they’re making old Pokemon relevant again without megas. However, I’m sure genwunners are hating today.
Don’t expect anything less with ‘genwunners’. I’d think anything at this point would be fuel for their hate really.
True, true. Why do they even hang around to pester the true fans anyway? Just go home and replay Red for the thirtieth time.
People like that exist everywhere for everything. I’ve just learned to ignore them. Blindly hating things won’t get you far. 🙂
“Sun & Moon news is due to come on Friday August 12th”
And just like that I’m thirsty for more xDD
Or maybe earlier….
3 more months left
The trial captains ooze SOOO much character and demand of attention… I cannot with this game! The amount of pure perfection bundled into S/M is honestly…. unable to be expressed with human words.
Where is the MEGA?
Most likely wont be in sun and moon by the looks of it
Maybe post-game?
I doubt they’re going to be a thing now. Otherwise Mega Exeggcutor would exist!
Probably post-game/next update.
I could totally see Lurantis becoming a mascot here or on the forums. It just seems right up PJ’s alley.
Yup I’m sure he’ll love them lol
How about “Lurantis Learning” to teach the more complicated aspects of Pokemon such as battling?
Ugh every reveals screws up my intended team for the 1st playthrough. How the hell can I squeeze Alola Ninetales in there.
It’s not over yet. There will be more Pokemon to screw you over.
Enough to make you want to do a second playthrough or a sub team. <3
I just need to know the Ground Fighting and Rock Z-Move
Mantle Overload
Fist of Doom
Boulder Bash
Gumshoos looks like hes about give us the weirdest speech
TOOOOOOIIIS lol
We stand here today, in honor of our fallen brethrens whose brain circuits could not comprehend nor contain the immense amount of information received on the first of August, 2016. We feel your pain, we suffer from your loss, and may you rest in pieces as we all await for Judgement Day: August 12th.
So if this is real….then I can’t use Popplio…….
Litten
Rockruff
Mudsdale
Maybe Bewear
Were you even planning on using Popplio anyway? hahaha
Chance of it being water-fighting.
Ah hahaha
My body wasn’t ready
I wanted to use Popplio…
I’m guessing Pops will be Water-Ice.
The colors add up.
If it doesn’t become a Fairy I might stomach it
I have a motive for not wanting it to be Water-Fairy.
HEH HEH HEH.
Rumour has it that Gumshoos intends to build a wall around Alola
Gumshoos please xD
OMG hahaha
its rumor Gumshoos hates Kalos natives
Shoo the Gumshoo away and let him be weary of Bewear.
Is that what the barricaded city is on the 3rd island?
Yes, yes it is.
Lel
Oh no, it’s already happened.
I wonder if he got a small loan of a million dollars to build that?
MAKE ALOLA GREAT AGAIN
When was the newer info part of the older leak? Was it a bunch of stuff that came from the same leaker at a later date?
Here you go friend https://m.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4tokxf/rumor_more_on_that_chinese_rumor_from_some_time/
Ah, thanks! I wonder if other generations will get new types mons, not just the first gen. Or if their stats stay the same?
Also, your link says that Ninetales becomes fire/fairy. I’m sure that doesn’t make it any more or less credible, but I suppose the fact that Ninetales was mentioned at all gives it some merit.
Im hoping their stats get a bump because Ninetails and Sandslash in question have pretty mediocre stats.
I just read the site info on Sandshrew and Sandslash, and it says they are slower than their Ground-type counterparts, so stat changes will happen 🙂
“SHINY VULPIX… oh wait.. darn u GF” changed the whole game again, now I need to pay even more attention to the differences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiZRgdj1b0
These Alolan variants actually make a lot of sense. If the originals can’t be found in-game, you can transfer them from the virtual RBY
Ahhhhhhhh! I’m so confused!!!
Ok, for starters, I’m picking Rowlet (heh. For STARTERS)
How could Growlithe and Arcanine become WATER TYPE?!
What’s up with all these Alolan ‘Delta’ types?(I will call them that)
AND I REALLY HOPE YOU ONLY HAVE ONLY ONE RIVAL WHO PICKS THE STARTER THATS WEAK AGAINST YOU CUZ I DON’T WANNA BE LOOKING AT THAT NON-BIPED…. THING EVERY TIME I BATTLE MY RIVAL.
So you’re on team Popplio, eh?
No. Team Rowlet. I want my Rival to pick Popplio. I have nothing against Popplio, I just prefer Rowlet.
Well it you pick Rowlet, Hau will be packing Popplio.
I wonder if there’s even another rival picking up the other, “strong” starter.
Tomy International just reveal the Z-Ring toy. This you will interact with the games and react when you use Z-Moves! This is not required to use Z-Moves in the games! The images show how all the Z-Crystals will look in the games. Also, the Z-Ring could only hold six Z-Crystals.
Barf Ground is just 3 wavy lines
By the way Oricorio’s Sensu forme is right up my alley
Baile and Sensu pls
I really hope they evolve — I might just ditch Pikipek for one of them
Pikipek is the best bird since Pidgey tbh.
I love all of them TBH. It’s so cute haha. I have a slight preference towards Pom Pom and Sensu though 😛
Really feeling the Sensu, Baile, and Pa’u ones, although Pom Pom is great too
I’ve never done a rotation team where I rotate through several Pokemon in a single playthrough… but I feel like S/M might have just made that mandatory! How the hell am I supposed to choose 6 Pokemon when every single Pokemon revealed thus far I want in my team?! I really hope you get have to change Pokemon in your party at your leisure through Rotom’Dex.
Im confused since it says that you have to transfer old pokemon to get the new forms, yet the main site says they are native there. This may not all be true!
Oh nevermind, they meant the previous versions.
Yeah because if I guess, they’re bred here in Alola, they’ll be Alolan forme, but imported ones stay the same.
Other fyre-fight plese nitendo try other combinations!
Water type Rapidash would be a fun idea. Think Hippocampus :3
Or the water horses Poseidon creates! O_O
that’s the Hippocampus 😛
I have failed. I accept my sentence, whatever it may be.
Yes please <3
A big fat water hippo
Soo.. Water type Hippowdon?
That needs to be a thing.
It is in real life
O M G YES JUST YES
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT
Oricorio is basically Volcaronas mortal enemy…OMG does this mean we could maybe get an alolan Luna moth form of volcarona!? Please, please, pleeeease
YASSSSS! I would put a gif but I’m on my tablet and waiting in the dentist office so… :C
I would too but I’m at work on my phone :/
Hold up this is what I’m afraid of
Some of these make sense, I don’t want this to breed free cards to change any Pokemon into a Alolan variant
Yeah, it could get out of hand. But I think this one would be justified 🙂
Seel is a must
I would die if that was an actual thing. *refresh*
I need a Luna moth SO BAD <3
It’s probably Volc’s best ally too in doubles… 😀
Omg true. I must harness this power!!!
https://twitter.com/WcDuckling/status/760103258425794560
its duck face tail is the best thing since slice bread
I love it (refresh for pic)
I’d that really Executor?
Yes
I kinda like that one.
I dont get the Dragon typing though, but GF have done something similar with the Flabebe line and more recently Comfey.
Wait for Wailord………… #toobig
Exeggutor is the ridley of pokemon
This is gonna be awesome, especially in the cartoon. He’ll be traveling and interacting even more with characters who’ll eventually become gym leaders. This is awesome.
With the addition of Oricorio, I hope we’ll get new dance moves too 🙂
Tierno would be happy XD
Seeing as dance is a big thing in Alola, wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
In before Tierno moves in.
Oh and the Z-Moves things, they’re already dancing.
Tierno returns in Sun/Moon and becomes a gym leader? That’d be nice, since we’re making a league and all, for characters of previous generations to come over and take a Gym leader spot. After all If the Kahunas become the E4, and the Trial leaders become Gym leaders, that’ll leave 4 gym spots open 😛
What if he’s the champ. 😮
Nah, too farfetch’d.
All kidding aside, would be nice to have some characters from past gens return. Some were severely underutilized IMO :S
Well the leak says some… more utilized characters… are appearing…
“Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance all make appearances”
As long as the queen dancer can get them. Y’all know who I’m talking about 😉
There were yesterday new leaks which source seems the same as chinese source: http://i.imgur.com/20Srvjs.png
I don’t believe anything from vp anymore. I’ve used up my one get tricked for free card and now I’m done lol
A lot of those seem neat, but we’ll probably have to wait until that’s verified by official info.
Waiting at the dentist office has never been so easy LOL
Alolan Arcanine is a water type?!? OMG ?
I remember that! Holy smokes *heavy breathing*
I am physically crying right now, the past two days have just been so great, first I got to get my copy of the cursed child and read through that, then we get all this amazing info that I never knew I wanted but holy heck did I ever! (so pumped for S/M) and now I get to take my nephew fishing later! So much good in just two days XD
OOOOO how’s the cursed child?!?!? lol
Beyond amazing!
Interesting. I feared that as it was a sequel of sorts it wouldn’t be as good. lol
me too, but boy was I wrong
As a huge HP fan, I haven’t picked it up. I’m afraid.
well my friend, all I can say is, don’t read any spoilers, there is too much crazy stuff in the book that you need to experience first hand, and its all so amazing
I guess I’m just worried the script format will affect my enjoyment of the story.
I was too, but after the first few pages I didn’t even notice, its very able to be read just like a novel 🙂
I’ll probably pick it up soon then. I don’t want to be left out of the loop for too long
It’s official, GF digimonized pokemon completely. lol!
At least they’re trying really new stuff, which is already positive by itself, right?
Anyone else think Hydro Vortex is a seriously gorgeous looking move ??
Gorgeous move with a lame name hahaha. Esspecially when compared to Gigavolt Havoc and Bloom Doom hahaha
Hahah truth
I recall the rumor list of these having a fire/fairy vulpix.
Yes, for Ninetales, among others.
so this list above could most likely be fake
Possibly. But, it could also be a red herring.
they got that one thing wrong…..every other detail basically matches up….for all we know it was a tiny mistake….
eh true. but remember some leakers like to throw in fake stuff to throw people off and stuff. Example the Smashboards leak
This is also true lol
its like put alot of real things but add some fake things. its because people will expect the other things and not get it. so this list could have some thrown ins
Perhaps they interpreted the info wrong. Or that was early concept and it changed.
Jokes aside about Gumshoos, I actually like its design. Usually not too fond of Normal types (except for Lopunny and Teddiursa) but I might actually use Gumshoos in my playthrough.
it looks like its pissed at the world
*donald trump* 😛
Yeah like me
Naming it Drumpf
That IS his real last name after all lol
Anyone mind re-linking the leaked info please?
These seem to be it
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4tokxf/rumor_more_on_that_chinese_rumor_from_some_time/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4s661a/rumor_some_information_on_sunmoon_from_china/
Thank you my good man
Orange islands had trials…..
Orange….Arange….Alalange….Alolange….Alola
Boom
Orange Islands had five gym leaders, no trials.
EDIT: 4 gym leaders, Drake functioned as the ”champion”
They were basically the same. Do some tasks and then have a battle lol
Actually there weren’t battles, just trials.
Shoot the bottles? Make an ice sled? Race said sled?
OMG it’s been there all along!!! lol
(Put this on the wrong article) A few things:
Gumshoos might have a resemblence to DT, but I really don’t think that was intended. Nothing in his bio stands out as having relation to him.
I LOVE THE BIRDS. I want them all.
Minior- LOVE. I wonder if it changes color or if I have to catch each one. -_-
Lurantis- surprised its not grass/ bug. Not like we needed another, plus it would also have a strong resemblence to leavanny.
Mudbray: exactly as expected.
New forms: I dig them so far. I dont want just gen 1 pokemon to get it however.
Call me skeptical, but we still dont know if every single leaked pokemon is real. The starters sure are, but thats about all we know for sure. Leakers have only gotten portions right before.
Also, I think its safe to say that HM’s are gone since you can call on the riding pokemon whenever you want to fly, break rocks, etc.
Gumshoos’s attacks
Your Fired
Build a Wall
Gumshoo will have a female gender variation who can learn
Snatch Speech
Got herrrrr
and Delete Emails
The Totem Gumshoo calls upon an ally!
Gumshoo’s wife appeared
Gumshoo’s wife used speech plagiarism! It’s not very effective!
It’s like Gen 1 and 2 combined it’s so weird. Gen 1 Pokemon being reimagined but everything looking so different feels like Gen 2. I’m disappointed about the gyms but here’s to post game content and a great story
Water Growlithe and Arcanine… That sounds amazing!!!!!!
Not for me, they’re annoying without being a Water Type
also THE BIRDS I LOVE THE BIRDS
You’re a Hitchcock fan too?
That movie pissed me off because of the ending tbh. Also they only attacked people when they smoked so I think the birds were trying to save people from cancer.
Tell me what the title of this crazy movie is… this has to be watched, now.
You seriously haven’t heard of The Birds?
This new leak about Rockruff and the starters having multiple final evolutions sounds quite fun tbh. I mean I’m gonna have all 3 starters on my team hopefully so I can’t wait for all the dual typing coverage I’ll have access to. Gonna need those extra 5 days to plan my ingame team carefully haha
I wonder if the multiple evos for the starters means that we won’t be seeing a 3 stage starter set this time around?
I would love multiple evos that would be so cool
I predict that you will fail, give up, and decide you need 2 teams and 2 playthroughs.
Well if I get both sun and moon, then Starter team a and starter team b possibly, so many combinations and variations if it’s true and I’m so excited. Don’t think I’ll use any Alolan variants however since they’re not new Pokemon
Is it just me, or shouldn’t Lurantis be dual Grass/Bug? Might be biased cause I love Bug types XD
I’m going to take a walk…..I think I’m having a stroke……please remember to walk the refrigerator……….*thud*
Fairy/water rhyperior please.
I disapprove. 🙂
“Lurantis is the Totem Pokémon of Lush Jungle, the site of an Akala Island trial. It will overwhelm trial-goers with the powerful combos it unleashes with the Pokémon allies it calls.”
I believe that Gumshoos is the Totem Pokemon of Melemele Island. Also, this reveals the name of the Lush Jungle and the potential second island of Akala!
At least we know one in-game location name 😀
Like, I don’t mind the island names, but an actual location name within the islands ^^
It’s not that each island has a totem pokemon, each *trial* does.
I thought it said each island had a totem, guess I misread
Someone can explain to me if this is true?
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/
I just saw this and now I understand the Variant types. It’d just like how a species exists in two different place, but are different in both places. I thought they would just change the type and not the design, but that’s cool that they changed the design too. Also the Pokémon in this region are so confusing…. So many different forms and Cores and whatnot.
Darwinism at it’s finest lol
And they said Pokemon didn’t teach kids about evolution 😛
I wonder what Lurantis reminds me of?
Mantis??
Leavanny?
hmm good idea.
Really new cool things, but the starters unfortunately still are a huge problem. I fell like GF has completely given up on starters since 3 gens ago. These ones look sloppy and too far from the “let’s simplify things” speech. Especially the water one, that is basically a bad joke.
So sorry you don’t care for them, hopefully there are some pokemon in the region that suit your fancy so you have something cool too.
I love the starters, especially the water one (might be my fav ever) but I understand some people do not
On the bright side I’m really enjoying the other pokemon they showed so far. So it won’t be a big loss after all.
thats awesome 🙂
They’ve been meh since after sinnoh
I expected conflicting opinions. People were arguing before about feminie and masucline looks in species. I honestly have already grown with these starters. Rowlet’s my favourite, but the others aren’t bad. It’s something new! Yet, opinions will vary, but they do have a bunch of personality!
Personally I like them.
Maybe poplios final Evo just has a major gender difference?
It’s possible, they’re doing really different stuff this time.
So is there actually any credence this two evolution thing? I don’t think it was in the original Chinese leaks nor in the extra leak that supplemented it. Where did it come from? An don’t tell me VP lol
At least I get my Snowman Pokemon. After 3,000 years.
the starters have two evolution thing?? OMG
Ugh. There are two evolutions for starters as always. These are the final evolutions!
ooh i thought there will be a female and male
Mono Water game!
* Popplio
* Bruxish
* Wimpod
* Arcanine
Who’s next? (There’d better a Lotad, Shellos, Palpitoad or Barboach somewhere…)
Noooo Littens evolution is real! Seriously?
well it looks like its real dude
WAIT!!!! WHAT COLOUR WILL THE SHINIES OF VULPIX AND SANDSHREW BE!!!! I hope vulpix is black and that sanshrew is not yellow (it would like like pee)
An igloo made from frozen pee… Noice
Bergmite was yellow so I never went shiny hunting for it 😛
Lol I accidentally found like two or three shiny Bergmite so I used them as trade bait
should have named them Pissicle and then traded them 😛 (JK)
Oh man, I want to hunt for a shiny Alolan Vulpix.
me toooo
So I’m confused… It may be obvious, but can someone explain the difference between Hala and the new electric trial master? I thought there were only 4? An it doesn’t make sense to have two electric specialist
I don’t think you fight the trial maser, whereas you do fight hala
The trial master sets the trial I think – Ie find these items/race this course etc
Then the Kahuna is the one you have to battle to conquer the island
So it might go trial master -> gives challenge -> you do it -> face the trial boss Pokemon -> Face the Kahuna
Ah! I get it now! So we still haven’t seen all the Kahunas yet! Thank you!
Hala is hot and the electric trial master ain’t
What? There are four Trial Captains and four Kahunas. Hala is not a Electric Specialist, nor he’s been confirmed to be one.
Yes haha makes sense now. Thank you for clearing that up lol it’s just so different that I was confused
I like the “Alolan Forms” but they will forever be Delta Species for me….
With less 8 gyms in the game, I hope it doesn’t become too short and easy to finish. That would be a huge letdown.
I think it’s still kinda 8 gyms = 4 trials and 4 island leaders…
but there are 8 trainers? 4 trial masters and 4 kahunas (unconfirmed whether you fight them all or not)
Well you will have the trial boss Pokemon things as well, so thats another thing to throw in the mix. And they’ll get harder each island I’m assuming, especially cause it can be like a horde battle but with one overpowered
yes! of course
Yeah, i hope we do get to fight them all and the difficulty level escalates considerably as we progress.
Im thinking we will go to kalos after alola… Since we are getting the “Z” move haha! I dont know… Maybe like gold silver but more elaborate….
I’d love that. That was the best idea they had to make things less easy.
That’s what I’ve been thinking for a while.
Oh Joe, you 😉
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/760126149477408768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiZRgdj1b0
Smart move.
I have a feeling that now without “gyms” the challenges we face will be more spread out.
I actually think that the story in the Alola Region might be the longest one yet. Due to the more open world feel that the Alola region gives. Being able to see points of interest in the background of the game is something I love about these islands.
But I do certainly see these being a longer addition to the current story seems how it seems to use a lot of aspects from past games including spin offs like Ranger and Mystery Dungeon. Such as the adding to riding and “Leader Pokemon” calling others for help.
I dunno why, but from the way the site describes the trial captains, I think there’s more than the 4 we saw. It said each trial will be overseen by a captain, and to me it seems like there will be multiple trials on each island. So….there might be more of them?
I think there is only one per Island, hence why there is four of them. I doubt there is many! We know the trails will consist of things other than battling though!
I know, but the language seems to suggest what I am saying. It feels like there are multiple trails. heck, one of the pages mentions the kahuna says that when you defeat them, it’s a sign you completed ALL the trials. Meaning, more than one trial.
I dunno, I feel like there are more captains. Could be wrong for sure.
Multiple per island, but still 4 total. Remember, one of the islands is pretty much uninhabited.
Lurantis vs Leavanny ?
Of course, the female companions are the ones that get the Bird Starters
Mallow and Rowlett as Ash’s companions then?
and Ash Litten and Popplio. Later leading to his Litten evolving into Panthster,, who would then become as disobedient as Ash’s Charizard and Dawn’s Mammoswine.
Rowlet
Alola Ninetales
Rockruff
Mudsdale
Vikavolt
Salandit
It seems you’ll fight a totem gumshoos and a totem lurantis at some point. Wonder what other ones there are.
well guys looks like we’ve got 11 days until the next half of the Pokemon Sun and Moon Info. 😀
So much revealed about SM, I actually forgot Magearna was a thing
Call me crazy, but like…what if there isn’t an evil organization in this game? Interesting that we’ve gone this long without hearing a thing. I mean, they’re changing up the gym format, why not change that up too? A lot of big changes, and I’m personally really excited about that. This is shaping up to be the most unique Pokémon game in years.
There would have to be one. I don’t think the legends would just go on a rampage
So much is going through my head right now, like will there be an Ice stone introduced? how will vulpix evolve? I doubt its with a fire stone! SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!
Didn’t even think of that haha all these new forms of both old and new Pokemon, it’s kind of confusing to me
There’s a lot of big changes and I’m worried and Evil Team being removed might be the next big change.
I hope not! What would be the plot of the Alola Games? Just becoming the Champion with very little obsticals? They need to keep a proper antagonist!
Not having an Evil team is actually quite possible. Hawaii is normally seen as a holiday destination, I guess they translated this idea into Alola as moving away from the norms and having a more enjoyable laid back game and not having an evil organization goes in hand with that concept.
you don’t like change?
Omg, I love every single thing that has been revealed today! I literally screamed of excitement :p
Quick question: any ideas on how we will evolve Alolan Vulpix? A fire stone seems unlikely now.. All I can think of is the same method used to obtain Glaceon. Which would be a good thing, since it would make Icy Rock more useful.
never thought of the ice rock, but seeing as how its habitat is the ice capped mountains and I assume thats where the ice rock will be, it would make sense
“Clear each island’s trials and battle the Kakunas.”
Heh heh heh. HAHAHAHAHA. (I know the correct spelling, don’t worry.)
??
OHMYGOD
Fake. There are footprints below the Pokémon.
Never said it was real mate
*it was sarcasm*
Thank you 😛
Sarcasm doesn’t transfer well online -_-
You need Kappa or /s. <3
Ain’t that the truth
That was just a really bad use of sarcasm tbh. You can’t use sarcasm for something that was already a joke in the first place. Now maybe what you mean is that you were “just kidding” which is understandardable and fits the conversation
Perfection. 10/10
Oh God.. people are so creative! Cheers to whoever thought of this.
Well with the four islands, we’ve got so far 4 Trial Captains, 4 Kahunas & 4 Guardian Deities, and we haven’t even got anything plot related yet!
Im expecting big things then in terms of the plot especially seeing as how this gen seems to really focus on the connection between human and Pokemon.
The new Leak mentioned that Lillie had a Zygarde Cell (Or core, I can’t remember) in her bag and since she is a mysterious character, I wonder how Zygarde will play into the main plot as well as a legendary
The traditional gym rumor is false they just revealed how they will work there is a person then the kauna person and totem Pokemon so ya just burst that bubble but everything else 100 percent sure real
I love the new Pokemon and the new forms but im a bit confused and I appreciate that they are trying to mix things up 🙂
What about eevee? Do you think it’s possible that this alola form thing affects it as well? It would be mind blowing to have new designs/typings to its evolutions.
that would make it too ez for us
I feel like eevee 100% won’t be, its already so fluent in its types
I’d love to have new stuff about eevee. It would be a pity in such a peculiar region like alola, not to explore it in any way.
What if… Alola Vulpix’s hidden ability is Snow Warning… =)
Has anyone else noticed the four pointed star thingies that each of the Captain’s has? Its on the waist of Lana and Mallow, on the belt of Sophocles and around Kiawe’s neck. I wonder what they could be?
Gym Badges. 🙂
Or what’s left of them. I bet the Kahunas will be giving them out too.
I also noticed Sophocles has a gameboy on his T-shirt
If the Evil Team is removed, I’m cancelling my pre-orders. Then there’s no point in the games at with the loss of an antagonist. So much changes. DrunkFreak, you better not fucking take that out, you pigs! Ohmori I think was smoking weed with Masuda when they were making this game.
Throwing a Tyrantrum i see.
a bit much don’t ya think?
You have until November 17 to cancel it! Give it some time.
Are you saying a Pokemon game that’s simply about exploration and adventure isn’t enough for you? lol
oh c’mon, you won’t buy the game because of the lack of a generic anime antagonist?
Yeah, the antagonists are usually very generic and are hardly the best part of the game. I liked gold and silver for having very little team rocket in it.
Still love Team Galactic and Team Plasma tho 🙂 <3
team galactic was the best in my opinion
I’ll agree with you there 🙂 They were goofy yet dangerous at the same time for me. Plus, I still shiver every time Cyrus talks about his plans. Just removing spirit to make his own world seems so inhuman to me.
But I love Team Plasma for the same reasons. 🙂
Team Plasma was nice because of the fact they had N who spoke to me as a character
N was amazing 🙂 same with me there, I really related to him as I feel I was sort of like him in the past. Only seeing one way for the good of others. But I’ve learned there are other ways and one way may not be good for everyone.
Plus, his relationship was his father is what I have with my own self at times. :3
I loved it when he left Unova. I was all crying like pls don’t go. I literally walked all over Unova to find him post game.
Those two are really more of the exception than the rule 🙂
True, but they do have generic elements to them 🙂
Remember there was also the rumor Lillie’s father is the main villain.
Just breathe. Be calm. I don’t think they’ll get rid of an antagonist (there has to be some sort of conflict, conflict drives plot after all!) but even if they did, I don’t think it’s worth not giving SM a shot. They look to be amazing games. 🙂
-Gives TM for calm mind-
This is not the end of the world, trust me
Fomantis this name is so familiar for me ??….I believe I read it in some rumors help me ppl …..my brain didn’t work will.
More
Lol
Looks like I’ll be using a starter from the previous generation, probably cyndaquill. This will be a first but oh well.
Oh my goodness, I didn’t know what to expect for today’s news but this was amazing! I’ll give you my opinions because I didn’t comment on the last article:
-Alola Forms, oh my gosh I have wanted something like this for SO LONG! I love the ice type ninetails and sandslash lines! They look really cool! *ice pun* Executor is hilarious as well!
-Z attacks, no surprises at this point, pretty much what I thought they would be. The attack names are too cheesy imo
-New Pokemon, I really like the little meteor, it has a cool typing and it’s REALLY CUTE. The others are fine…
-Riding Pokemon! Looks really awesome, soaring on charizard confirmed?
I really love Oriocorio for the different designs/forms it has, and Fomantis and Lurantis look amazing as well <3
I love oriocorio as well! I love things like vivion that have a lot of different forms.(I just forgot it existed, so many new things to think about, you know?)
Yeah, totally, and it’s a lot of info for your brain to process, no worries
I would love i but there is no African tribe looking version
Lmao
No to two final evolutions for each starter… Just no!!
I agree, and I doubt that the company would do so to the starters.
That would be cool for all those who hate Fire/Fighting (99%) and all those who do (1% GF)
Yes. Especially for those who don’t like the current forms.
If alola abra line is becoming fighting type, maybe they will reverse things and make machop line go psychic.Can you imagine that?! My head is spinning with theories.
Ok so going off the leaks it says that the day and night system doesn’t work the way it has in the past. I knew I was right about it! Every time they show the battle with Hau on the platform it’s been sunset. I think they are going to a regulated day night system where certain events take over and make it be a a particular time of the day in game. I imagine there will be an in game clock that keeps track of things rather than using the clock from the 3DS. I wonder what it’ll be like. Every hour is a day? or maybe it changes more frequently and then stops based on an event you have to trigger? Could be very interesting. It will also allow people that can only play at certain times of the day to see very time of the day in game.
OMG Night is Day and Day is Night
Up is down, black is white, dogs are in relationships with cats!!! We’re in the apocalypses!!!!!
It could work like Xenoblade where each minute is an in-game hour.
This ^
That reminds I still have to finish Xenoblade lol
I got stuck about halfway through and gave up for now lol
I still have to buy it xD
I’m like level 12 and just completely forgot I had it lol. So many other games I’m playing
You’ve got a long way to go, then.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. It would allow them to keep things organized, but also be able to stop at a specific time of the day for events and such.
Oh btw, I think the electric Trial Captain might’ve invented the Rotom dex
Professor Kukui is the one who invented and created the Rotom Dex. This has already been confirmed.
He could have collaborated with Sophocles though. Especially with the technology part of the Rotom Dex
Sophocles is a clemont wannabe
Clemont is a tool
Clemont was boring imo
Yes, while they seem to be similar, personality-wise, they are different. Clemont is more friendly, while Sophocles seems to be more grumpy and antisocial in a way.
Point is, just because two characters have certain things in common doesn’t make them the same character.
Also he looks like a kid. That big one from Detective Conan to be precise
What? Who said they were the same?
Sorry if I interpret it that way, but when I hear the words ‘wannabe’ I just think you’re saying that the character is exactly the same as the character you compare it to. (In your case, that Sophocles is exactly like Clemont)
Sorry if I misinterpreted, the Internet can be confusing at times. 🙂
Alola is just trying to be an in-game orange islands, i mean variations of old pokemon, gym leaders work with trials instead of battling and there are 4 islands
Does anyone else think that Alola Form Ninetails should have been Ice/Ghost instead of Ice/Fairy due to its lore? It was the perfect opportunity! Also, why haven’t we talked about the amazing remix of the Wild Battle theme for the Totem Pokemon?
Alola ninetales looks the same as regular ninetales. It’d would have been amazing if it became ghost or dark type so it could be pitch black instead.
TRUE! That would have been SO COOL! Plus the new music from this trailer was really good, as with the rest of the new songs for the game 😉
Well technically they revere Alolan Ninetales as a sacred emissary of the gods and it is like mythic protector of the frozen peaks. Makes it seem much more like a nature spirit fairy type than a ghost or psychic.
True.. probably wanted to cover new dual types, which I appreciate.
Well, I’ll probably be just a quadruped Froslass in that case?
theyre releasing a snowman thats ghost and ice type
Dodrio with Close Combat… goodbye Staraptor
And gale wings pls!!
Urrrrrrrrrgh y no dark type until now ??? I would be ok if Litten final evo is fire/dark though.
With Exeggutor getting frisk, that’s a sign its stats are getting bumped up
Whats the type of littens evo(please not fighting….)
Likely Fire/Dark.
Yes please, and please dont become bipedal.
I would like to believe that but hes using wrestling moves
Fire/ground
I hope that not only Kanto Pokemon will get the Alola form treatment, but it seems that way! Anyways, I know I commented about HMs already, but after reading the site it details a feature called Poke Ride. Your able to call upon rideable Pokemon at any time without needing to own them. I’m assuming that Sharpedo and Lapras will replace Surf, Charizard will do regular Flying and Soaring, and others would just be rideable for fun and to traverse new areas. I’m sure the HMs will now become TMs!
Atleast I might have a reason to use Ratata and Raticate
I would love to hear what Pokemon you’d like to see get Alolan forms, I would personally love to see Aipom or the Chansey line get one, but I don’t know what types they could be
When I think animal diversity I think of the Galapagus tortoise, so either Torkoal or Torterra could have a new typing/appearence. That and the Hippocampus Rapidash are all I can think of right now :3
omg I can totally see Torkoal getting a new form!!! and would love that!!!
I was hesitant when they showed off the Alolan pokemon differences. I still am (why not just change a few things and make it a new species?) but so far these changes are all very interesting and will make for a really different, fun Pokemon game.
The most annoying thing about this game is that there will be another… ANOTHER f**king electric type gym leader. Well so far my predictions have been going well.
but their not gym leaders tho…
Well we’ve yet to see if they will start gyms. Idk, I’ll edit it if things change.
Awesome, participants of the Island Trials are given this charm. And Pokémon Centers in Japan will sell real ones.
Do we know the names of the ISLANDS? YELLOW, PINK PURPLE, RED?
Could be 🙂 I really love the charm though, really hope they sell them on Pokemon Center :3
Just another brain wave where two and two could be brought together, but all the Alolan Pokemon are Kanto Pokemon so far and the main player is not native – could be from Kanto, especially as mum has a Meowth (can’t remember if this was confirmed or just a theory), also RBY transferable capabilities with S&M and finally in the leak it mentioned the S.S.Anne, could this be the post game to rival Gen II?
Perhaps I’m late, but:
“Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together
with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been
passed down in the Alola region.”
Fire Marowak, maybe?
Has everyone seen the Japanese trailer? Is has some new music and scenes in it:
http://youtu.be/Iaav6J6XzFs
I wish i could speak japanese. I only know the important words atleast, Oppai, Onii-chan (-sama), otaku, Oppai, etc.
I’ve already seen it. I make it habit to watch both the Japanese and English trailers. The Japanese trailers usually have more content.
I was really worried at first when I saw that thumbnail, but my opinion changed very quickly!
Also, only thing I actually disliked in the trailer was Alolan Exeggutor.
Really… why? Those proportions are horrible.
In basketball terms you would call that perfect
It would have been better to create another palm tree pokemon imo
It’s like Exeggutor is trying to one-up Tropius.
OH so GameFreak thinks they can replace me with another palm tree pokemon? What this new guy is super tall!? I’ll beat him at his own game.
Ikr i wonder if alolan tropius is extra tall lmao
Basically, the “normal” Exeggutor has stunted growth. This is the form we were always meant to see. It makes more sense this way, I think.
The sun thing makes no sense either way as hoenn is supposed to be as tropical as alola yet there are no “hoenian” tall exeggutors but whatever lel
Humidity and other aspects unique to Alola probably play a role as well. You have a good point though, I’m just spitballing now.
It still looks like a Palm tree to me, just one with the appropriate length-ed neck. LOL
It scares me. Just image being chased by that! You can’t avoid that long neck!
Ax it
Ax it what?
I think you meant Axew it
You went full Earthen there, very extreme.
You would be chased by a man eating coconut dragon. Wtf would you do?
Go to rehab for my drug abuse?
Chase IT DOWN
Hack off the neck, prey the coconuts off and feast
Fire Marowak is coming
Did anyone else mention how we have another Island name: Akala? I looked it up and it translates to Pink. Seems we won’t have a RBYG island theme
Pink is simply neon red
I did actually think that as well, haha
Raves & Ibiza in Alola confirmed
Welp, it was fun to theorize about, at the very least.
But I’ll still hang on to it, pink is a lighter red after all. 🙂
I stated that. So far we have Mememele (Yellow) and Akala (Pink). I’m guessing the last three are Red (Ula Ula), Orange (Alani), and White (Ke oke oh).
Look below, the bag charm thing has a yellow triangle, a pink one and a red one
This whole Alaolan version is quite intriguing, especially seeing how it works in the long run with other gens. At this point it seems it is gen I reduced.
Still I’m eager to see Water Growlithe. That should be a blast.
I hope it looks kind of like a Portuguese Water Dog, I don’t know how they would incorporate that into growlith though….. Maybe it will just be blue but I hope they are more creative than that.
Im assuming it will have fluffy whit fur around its head and such (both growlith and arcanine) that kind of resembles a gentle seafoam
I assume all those white parts will have an aquatic feel . Design wise they don’t change much. But I assume it will be a more Dark Blue.
Ughhhhhhh just what I need another bulky Water Type…..
You’re ground types better watch out O^O
I hope for your sake we get an Alolan form pokemon that has adapted to become a ground type, don’t know which pokemon it would be though
I don’t either but all of these just are not doing it for me
Once again everyone is getting new and exciting things they like and I’m completely shell shocked
Now because of this Popplio is going to turn into…THAT THING
ugh, why are you like this
Because I hate Faries, I don’t like the Variants, Popplio is doomed and nothing feels right anymore
seems like you don’t like much and are afraid of change to me
Both of these are true, if I can’t get excited then watching others get excited is just misery
i feel your pain! it drags, man, literally
I would hope that Magnazone turned into ground/electric with levitate
that could work if it was super freakin rusted
How could that Possibly work out
no idea.
How about Ground/water golduck
Stupid really really stupid
No Water type is in the same category as the mighty Greninja!
Please because of Protean its barely a Water Type anymore
Since when are Growlithe and Arcanine bulky? O.o
For a while, people nowadays run bulky Arcanine which works….
Intimidate into Will-o-wisp
Spam Morning Sun it’s a freaking mess
We’ve already seen regular arcanine in Alola though, and I don’t think regular forms will be in Alola will they ?
Trailers aren’t 100% accurate representations of what will be in the games.
Has anyone seen giraffes fight? The fight by slamming their necks on each other. Just image Exeggcutor’s Alola form fighting like that. That would be hilarious! ?
YES!
Haha, it did say it was like a whip.
Compulsory One Piece:
https://media.giphy.com/media/12SIWcUSQrwd4A/giphy.gif
http://i.makeagif.com/media/1-06-2016/KKc-N9.gif
OMG I am SO hyped for these games! They look wonderful! These changes to the formula make the games look so fresh and new! I can’t wait to explore the Alola reagon! I think at this point I am a ton more hyped than I was for X and Y and Black and White!
OMG I AM SOOOOO SURPRISED/HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Game Freak read my mind. A few years ago I came up with an alternate form for both Vulpix, and Pikachu and they were both Ice type, well Ice/fire, and Ice/Electric. OMG This is sooo awesome. And all these alternate forms. LOL I guess I’m going to be spending even more time on my Yellow/Red versions, catching duplicates of certain Pokemon. 😀 OMG All this info (Including the proof that the final evolutions ARE IN FACT REAL XD XD XD ) is making me so damn happy. <3 The only disappointment for me, is the no more gyms thing. But on the plus side of that, this new island challenge thing sounds awesome. 😀
I think a lot of people had the idea for an alternate vulpix form. love to see your entusiasm doe
LOL Yeah they probably did. 😀
Thanks, I don’t normally get that hyped over things, but this is literally some of the BEST news that I have gotten for Sun and Moon. 😀
(And I’m sure that there is more awesome news yet to come. XD )
Same, I have wanted Pokemon variations since I was a kid and saw the episode of the anime where they went to the island with the gs ball, and all the Pokemon looked different!
LOL I think lots of people have been wanting this for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time. XD
Bruvvvv that Poke Ride looks like so much fun! I am defo transferring one of my Charizards to S/M!
Here’s the fun part about Poke Ride… You don’t need to own the Pokemon to do it! 😉
But I have a shiny 🙁
The Pokemon you ride is not your own 🙂 but maybe you can at least pretend? :3
I think you were right about HMs being removed! I should have saw it sooner! Poke Ride is something fresh and inovative!
Well, I mean, I’m not the only one who said that though xD It was just something I thought could happen cause of the riding thing.
And I’m honestly glad, HMs were becoming a bit bothersome anyway.
I really want to see some places and have actual names for them D: Like, I feel like we’ve seen so little of Alola and while it would be cool to have some surprises, I would love to see some of them and see the actual names for them ^^
Yeah, I already love the reagon design from the map, I want to know MORE!
Right? All we know are the Melemele and Akala islands. :/
We don’t even know which island is Akala! We could guess, but we don’t know for sure
Mfw that new orchid mantis ISN’T Bug/Grass type. (refresh)
That’s what I was saying.
your profile pic. Pls change. The nightmares are going to be real
That means it’s working. I might edit it to be more pokemon-ish
Changed. Better?
I respect the Kenan use
It is shocking, yes, but I honestly don’t mind, I still like it 🙂
I think that it was better without bug/grass. Remeber leafenny and the fire type one bang?
I still love Leavanny, regardless of its weaknesses. Besides, you probably had a water type to switch in for it 🙂
You can’t always rely on switch outs
That’s why a single Pokemon must be able to cover its own hide
I don’t do much competitive, so in-game, you can switch out easily.
And from what I do see in comp (I watch some comp Poketubers), you can switch out to counter something, it’s just complicated cause you have to predict your opponent.
Plus, every Pokemon has a weakness, so it’s something you expect with any Pokemon really.
Maybe the plant is imitating the mantis, which is why it’s not Grass/Bug.
Whoa, that would be crazy awesome. Instead of the mantis imitating the plant, it’s he other way. You should work for GF.
Leavanny with less weaknesses. These guys in a nutshell.
What is the significance of Z in Z moves?
Z as in german pronunciation of ‘the’ hence The Moves
In that case every moves are Z moves.
The letter Z makes everything crazy and edgy.
I can attest to this.
Pretty much what I thouht. XD
*Pokemon Z* In all seriousness maybe it has something to do with it being a last resort because you can only use it once per battle.
Right…. I still feel like AZ, mega evolution etc. are unexplained.
So according to the leaks we’ll egt to see a butt load of old people including Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance. Should be interesting to see them in the style of SuMo as some of them haven’t even been seen in 3D yet lol
BLUE!!
especially Cynthia, seeing that it has been 10 years since Diamond and Pearl, and that we havn’t seen her since Gen 5.
Can’t wait to see Blue and Cynthia in sweet gen 7 3D!
Can’t wait to see the remake of Diamond and Pearl in sweet gen 7 3D, on the Nintendo NX
I want to see them in the S/M style. I feel like their coming to Alola to take a break or there redoing the World Tournament. It’s likely the ladder tho.
If the part of the leaks about a formal league being built holds and water then I could see them coming to Alola as representatives of the other regions to help make the league lol
Yes, World Tournament in which Ash participates after winning the Kalos League. CALLING IT NOW!
That is where we see AG!
My initials! 😀
Ahhh Cynthia <3 AND ZINNIA YES PLEASE I WANT HER BACK YESSSS
Cynthia ftw
I get the feeling that another region will appear in these games
Kalos
Probably, especially with the new Zygarde form and such I think it would provide a good match. Although I could also see them visit a different region such as Kanto.
Kanto and Johto are my two favorite regions (although Alola is closing in on them) so I wouldn’t mind that either.
Isn’t that going to be a ton of data to store on one cartridge?
if the ds can do it then the 3ds can too
I just meant with all those 3D models and whatnot.
XY was only 1.7 GB out of 8.
I stand corrected.
I know I’m in the minority here, but I love Alolan Exeggutor. It’s just so tall and ridiculous, and I love it so much. I’m definitely having it on my team in Sun!
I do too! I love every single thing revealed today. In fact, there isn’t a single thing revealed so far that I really hate!
I won’t say I love everything because the birds still need to grow on me, but I certainly adore most of it.
Same! It’s a great feeling! This has probobly been my favorite set of news!
This seemingly controversial reveal has me way more pumped than any other reveal yet!
I’m the complete opposite
They just had to make Ninetales part Fairy it could’ve easily been Psychic or Ghost but just to stick a thorn in my side
Sandshrew is tainted…..Snowshrew and Snowslash…..
Now because of this everyone is going to bark out demands for Alolan Variants of ridicules types
The meteor isn’t good
Trumpgoos
Gey burds
Why the hell is Exeggutor a Dragon
And this means the Starter Evos are in fact true, which means all the time I wanted to use Popplio is now crumbling because of that horrid evolution
This was not a good day
The one thing I agree with you on is that Ice/Psychic would’ve been better for Ninetales.
But nope, another freaking Fairy
I’m no fairy hater, but we have way too many fairies this early on in the news release cycle. If they keep coming at this rate, there will be way too many.
Dragons Bewear 😉
There’s only 6 so far out of 31. Not including Ninetails. And fairy kinda fits a lot of things from Hawaii.
Fuck you Fairy hater.
ice/ghost since it learns so many typically ghost type moves
What about the grass mantis Pokemon? 😀 You didn’t mention them
Oh it’s going to be so freaking annoying
Solar Blade is just going to be a Physical Solarbeam which already hurts like a bitch to most of my Pokemon
Good
Yeah, but it’s a 2-turn move, so you might have time to take it down :3
Who would possibly run that without sun
That is effing mental
True, or they would use a Power Herb, if they didn’t have a sun team.
But, because it’s in the sun, the fire-type moves that hit it are going to hurt. It’s a trade-off
That’s why they have the stupid back up
The damn thing also has Leaf Guard so finding Lurantis outside a sun team is going to be rare
…….I swear if they give it HA Chlorophyll…….
I’d probably be the person to use it outside a sun team xD I’m not fond of the idea of weather teams, so if I was super into competitive, I’d probably not use them often.
Leave it to earthen to take a day of amazing news and hate it :T
yep
Mudbray? I thought for sure you’d at least appreciate it, if not love it.
I like it, just the eyes are terrible
wat I love about him is just the terrible eyes.
that fresh cut doe
looking and this and ponyta…I cant belive they belong to the same game…ponyta has some more natural look while this basically looks like a plush toy
donkey from shrek awesome
I feel the same for litten…. Im choosing rowlet…. Hated litten3
Gumshoos and its prevo look nothing like Trump. Gumshoos is actually based on a private eye detective. If you look closely, it looks like it has a detective’s coat and cap. Its name comes from “Gumshoes”, which is a nickname for a private eye detective.
Funny, that evo makes me want Popplio but want to ditch Litten.
me too. I’m not using litten anymore. It’s good though cause now I can have salandit without being with 2 fire types. Hope salandit’s evolution doesn’t suck!!
I’m definitely ditching Litten. I love Rowlet’s evo. Considering switching to him.
Litten’s still my favorite of the starters, but ‘Entermaid’ (confirmed?) is my favorite of those third-stage evolution ones (followed by ‘Robingroot.’) :/ Dangit.
First forms Litten is also still my favorite. But the Robingroot is actually my favorite now followed by Entermaid. And then.. Litten’s…
Heh…yeah…I feel you.
You mad about fairy, bro?
Popplio was horrid to begin with.
1. I think Fairy is more fitting for the ice version, the fire one I could see add psychic.
2. Well it still came from the normal Sandshrews.
3. So? Doesn’t affect the game.
4. I think it’s hilarious, definitely naming one after Trump once I get it.
5. I like the meteor personally.
6. The birds represent the different forms of the hula dance.
7. Exeggutor is a dragon type because it’s design is based off a tree that’s name means dragon.
8. We don’t know for sure about that, we will see.
not true at all the part about hula dance. I mean, baile form is flamenco or sevillanas, cheerleader, hula dancer and some japanese traditional dance with fans.
You’re right. Although it’s design is based off a Hawaiian bird. Called the Hawaiian Honeycreeper.
i think baile form is more of a pase doble. just saying.
paso doble? jaja maybe, but paso doble is a couple dance and the bird is gesturing like it were dancing a sevillana:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2297a5f5efae89bee23de247c71868abe22d4a5bc100255b4999726b850bfd5.png (it is a costume haha but it works)
paso doble:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7bd6dbda1a0f2728b06a0546472a1d53f276cdd039a4522ac868caa3e0c0c8af.jpg
wow, you are so negative…
genwunner
OMG he’s amazing!!! I love all the goofy picture people are making with him lol
I will in Moon, my secondary game. I love the idea of adaptions. Much more thought out than Mega evolution.
I personally like it more than regular exeggutor! It’s a lot less creepy and a lot more funny 🙂
Like it too, but the Dragon typing confuses me. Wonder what GF’s motivation was to give it Dragon.
Dragon Palm
Because slapping a dragon type on it makes it cooler!
‘having it on my team in Sun’
Well, of course, it became that way with the huge amount of sunlight after all 🙂
I love that thing.
E feel the same… It seems organic dor me…. Not strange…. I liked 🙂
Ilove it aswell I always pictured a mega exeggutor like this. So I’m all G 🙂
You’re not alone
I wish we’d gotten a black ninetales (dark, ghost or psychic) instead of one that look exactly like the regular form.
Maybe that will be the shiny /:)
Gonna pray for that.
LOL you clearly must have forgotten what Ninetails original form looks like. Because this new form look NOTHING like the original. 🙂
Here’s my new theory (I don’t know if someone else has said this yet):
Guardians will be fire, electric, ghost, and psychic, like he birds from the island. The names of the islands will be:
MeleMele – Yellow – Electric
Akala – Pink – Psychic
Ula Ula – Red – Fire
Poni – Purple – Ghost
Just noticed that the orchid legs look like stripes of fried bacon. lol
I am really interested in the fighting type abra line! I have no idea how that would look. I wonder if they would change the mega as well…
I hope Ground types get another weakness or become obsolete
as a ground type lover, that’s just cruel
As a electricc type lover its not
You have one weakness. One.
And?
Ground has 3.
Electric rarely has any weakness though, ground only if i’m not mistaken
Honestly ground is weak enough. Don’t touch ground or poison.
Electric needs more presence
Electric is by no means a weak type. It is one of the last types that need a buff.
in terms of damage its a meh type. Its mostly used as a status dealing type and thats it.
LOL sorry but I have to disagree with you on that one. Electric types have way to many weakness’ for my tastes. I love using Pikachu, but it seems like almost EVERYTHING can knock it out. 🙁
But as a type, Electrics only have Ground as a weakness.
We constantly have to deal with Scald, Ice Beam, Giga Drain, AND THEY HURT ALOT
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you brick
You dick
you mick… E mouse
Fail
you Mick..EY Mouse
I hope GameFreak does this Alolan Forme thing in future Pokemon games. This a great way to reinvent old Pokemon.
Exactly!! It also allows them to slow down on the number brand new Pokemon and give the lime light to the already existing ones more lol
Also this allows to beef up weaker Pokemon. The possibilities with this is endless!
Yes, and without us having to learn more names!
You mean you don’t have all 721 (discounting the un-numbered alolans) memorised?
Haha, most of them.. at least final evolutions more than anything. Maybe I can learn a few more, but man.. it’s getting hard with age!
Was just reading Lurantis’s page and it’s apparently the totum Pokemon of Akala Island. I wonder which one that is. Prolly the island to the east of MeleMele
That’s what I think too, but we won’t know until official word gets out
It’s the only island I can think it’d fit other than MeleMele, but it’s weird….I would have thought a fire type would be the totum for that island lol
I think there’s multiple trials, so there might be mutliple totems per island.
Plus it says directly ‘It is the Totem Pokemon of Lush Forest, the site of an Akala Island trial’ It’s just the Totem Pokemon of that trial/place, not of the island itself.
I say south. The east island will likely be named after red.
Amazing! I can’t wait for these games to come out!
Do you think maybe the reason you are traveling is to get the totem Pokemon and the guardians to stop the evil team?
Probs. We open the gates to the legendary’s lair with the approval of the four island leaders, and fight off the evil team trying to capture it.
do you think that the totem Pokemon will form an actual totem? Because I thought that would be what the guardians did.
The megazord of totems
I approve.
Maybe the trial captains give you the (stone or wood) totems.
Then we need some blessing of the kahunas to activate them.
Curious about the archer stats. Hope it has a massive attack. so it’ll make up for its typing. Grass/flying is basically a death sentence.
Physical sweeper by the looks of it. Frail sadly.
They tend to give one of the starters a massive speed, but we all know that during battles speed is not exactly the holy grail if your attack is too lame.
Ice Shatd both It and A. Exeggutor
Not so fast. 4x doesn’t mean dead. Especially with a 40 power move.
Remember the last time someone tried to Aqua Jet your Rhyperior…
I’m saying my Mamoswine runs Expert Belt which increases Super Effective moves by 20% so add that with a 4x Weakness add in Mamoswine’s 130 Base attack and Ice Shard gets a Stab (Mine’s Adamant) so it will most likely kill anyone sporting an ice Weakness
I’ve loved Litten since the first time I saw it, but because of this final evo I’ll swear I’ll roam Alola in search of every Litten3 I can find and get rid of them.
Can’t wait to see the inevitable Kiawe fan art lol
Already seen it thanks to tumblr. o_o
Already?! People are fast! But that’s nothing new I guess.
Kiawe is hot just like daddy Kukui
And I thought Kukui’s might be bad >.< Hopefully Arceus will have mercy on us
Alola forms confirmed in gen 1
Woooow. Seems like GameFreak have wanting to do this for a while. I just hope it becomes a norm in Pokemon games from now on.
What?
rf*
Oh thank you!
So the Exeggute line aren’t Kanto native then?
Nope. They could only be found in the Safari Zone, which features all imported Pokemon. That said, by the time the events of Gen 2 took place, it did settle in the region, as well as Johto, likely being set free after the Safari Zone closed.
Dude that’s Gen 3, that’s Ruby/Sapphire
Ah now. Jesus I love how much went on in Gen 1 that we get nowadays. Like Munna ! Love this
Oh, GF is reading old Dex entries! QUICK, someone make a summary
Erm… how do I put this…
That pokedex entry is from gen 3.
The new pokeball is specified to rideable pkemon ..I think.
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470064280629.png
That’s badass. So we get an extra pokeball for rideable pokemon? Maybe we get lent these balls. Or maybe, we get gifted these rideable pokemon and they completely replace HMs.
I really hope that …..HMs could ruin ur team.
I don’t see the hate associated with HM. I personally LOVE them, and I use them on my team. The annoying ones I don’t use. Like flash. LOL You people are weird. 🙂
I think some of us don’t like having an HM slave as a 6th slot on our team. It limits what favorites we want to use in game
Ground Types have way too many problems. They re the magikarps of typing rn
Rock types are weaker tbh.
Hi guys, I just woke up and I’m not sure how to process all of this… Can you guys lend me your thoughts cuz I’m kind of confused about the new forms for older pokemon and the new gym leader thingy. THIS IS SO WIERD
It’s weird, but I like it. Very interesting and it adds some good change to the core formulas of Pokemon, at least to me 🙂
I know but what about gym battles?
Well they are replaced with something that is them in all but name.
Instead of gyms, it’s the trials, the totem Pokemon, and the kahunas.
It’s not equal, but it’s close enough to that concept.
I doubt it’ll be permanent, it seems more of an Alola thing.
But who knows? I keep getting surprised with Pokemon even now 🙂
I love this unpredictability, it’s very exciting!
Yeah, definitely appreciated, keeps me on my toes. No matter how much i predict and theorize, GF likes to topple everything I do to the ground.
The new Alola form Pokemon are adaptions to the climate. They are the best.
But what about this trial thing. It’s not even a battle anymore. We aren’t getting 8 battles anymore??
There might be eight trails.
But they aren’t battles?
Aren’t exclusively battles. I feel like they will be battles, but after the other part of the trial.
they are still battles (maybe not all but you do battle at least some of them, possibly all of them)
I dunno I’m just as confused as you lol
4 trial masters + 4 kahunas = 8 pseudo leaders
But battles?
Alolan Formes are kinda like a Pokemon having Formes in different environments. Really fucking cool if you ask me.
But let’s not go overboard
Not everything will change based on environmental influences
But that’s Darwin’s evolution right?
Survival of the fittest, adapt or die.
Yeah! Adapt or die Earthen! (lol jk)
Adapt to the shift in the shape of your skull
*Wallop*
Darwin would be rolling over in his grave if he saw this
“What have I done?!?”
The ones that haven’t adapted just aren’t on these islands.
Yes indeed! And epigenetics confirms it as your environment can determine the expression of once repressed genes
Of course not all Pokemon are going to get formes.
It’s already confirmed that Exeggcute doesn’t get a form, so it’s not even whole lines that would get them. They seem to know how to incorporate real world logic into these variants.
Thanks to this news I’m starting to get a solid idea for my teams. In Moon, I’ll be using Alola-native Pokemon: Popplio, Mimikyu, Lurantis, and Minior. In Sun, I’ll use Alola variant Pokemon, with Exeggutor being the only one I’m sure on.
i hope we get a variant thats a ghost type
Banette variant:
lol, or mimikyu
Personally I don’t want to believe that the starters’ final stages are split unto two. I guess it could cool but it sucks that the other gen starters don’t get the same.
Also I hope that while this gen won’t have Megas that it doesn’t mean later gens wont have megas. Dang it I would at least want them to give megas to all the starters’ final stages if they were gonna discontinue that concept.
I have no doubt in my mind that Megas are back, but as a postgame feature.
Let’s hope, that’d be cool for postgame fun.
can someone tell me where they got the “wo final evolutions for each starter” thing???? actually, where did they get MOST of the brand new info???
4chan I’m pretty sure
ah thank you i’ll go look there
see my comment above
i went through and found some screenshots of it
I’m looking for the source too. I’m surfing 4chan but I can’t find it.
its old stuff that ended up coming true, not recent
Woah woah woah. Will Vulpix still use a fire stone to evolve?
Probably have to go to that ice rock like Glaceon does?
Or new Ice Stone, so Glaceon doesn’t have to.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out myself. Somewhere/someone [it was] said that transferring from gen 6 to gen 7 keeps the original typing and moves
Maybe the Pokemon you transfer from RBY will be Alolan. Have only seen Gen 1 changed typing right?
That true, yet odd.
They might have new stones, or a different method of evolution, like trading it while it’s holding a certain item. 😀
Since the Vulpix is Ice type itself there’s no reason why it couldn’t just evovle normally by leveling up.
I’m almost sure that ash is gonna get the cat in the anime. The bird final form would be too similar to greninja (mysterious and cool) and the water one… well, it’s quite obvious that that’s not gonna happen at all. lol
I’ve seen a lot of people complain about the Alola Forms,Island Trails, and Z-Moves. But I love them. Pokemon has been the same game for 19 years, we need change.
Gyms were always boring. Having different trials and Totem Pokemon is a breath of fresh air.
Alola Forms are a very cool idea. Ice/Fairy Ninetales is awesome. It also makes sense since the pokemon living in alola could have adapted and thus evolved differently
I don’t care about Z-Moves really. They could be related to Zygarde, and that’s what interests me.
New pokemon are awesome. I love the bird and how it varies from island to island. Not mention that awesome ability. Minior sucks. The two grass types are awesome. Yungoose evo is what I expected. I’m happy
That Mudsdale has a pre evo.
Riding is being improved and I’m very excited for it.
All in all, I love Everything revealed. The only thing bad about this leak is that it means the starter evos are legit. And I hate all of them.
Too long did not read sadly
You only say this to troll and say “I don’t care”, I am I reading that right? <3
Agreed, except for the starters. I actually like them. Idk why, but something had me hooked
Same, although I didn’t like Litten’s evo at first, it’s grown on me. I wouldn’t mind it if it was Fire/Dark and was more inspired by a heel wrestler like people are saying
Fire/Dark would make me happy. Though, I’m not opposed to Fire/Fighting, there’s already a good small amount of them.
True, there isn’t enough Fire/Fighting, but we had 3 starters go down the Fire/Fighting path, it just is old now, really.
I’ll still use it, but I’ll just be a bit disappointed if Litten turned out that way
Minior is so amazing! One of the only Rock types I like
Different base stats for the pokemon are cool like the Spec. Attack and Attack being flipped as well as Spec. Defence and Defence. That way pokemon teams can be more varried.
RIP Smogon’s sanity lol.
Poor Smogon.
And with the different forms/abilities, I feel sorry for all the people who need to handle all of that.
Variant typings existed in the TCG already before. Remember that Water-type Dragonite? And other things? Yeah!
The delta forms!
And Pokemon-EX as well.
We’ve already seen regular arcanine… Didn’t someone say only Alola forms would be in Alola and other forms needed to be transferred/ traded?
Yeah, that is odd.
That is true! :O
Maybe we were facing a Trainer’s mon? Sure, there was no person behind it, but maybe they took this out to make it easier for the trailers.
Notice how all of these Pokemon are from Kanto. They can all be transferred from R/B/Y! It’s easier to get normal Kanto Pokemon than we probably think.
But that would mean locking Alola forms behind a paywall.
No no, that would mean locking normal forms behind a paywall. But they can also be transferred from any other Pokemon game ever.
Oh. I misunderstood. I’d be fine with that.
“Only” an $5 Bank subscription and a copy of XYORAS or VC-RBY… heh heh heh.
I wonder if there’ll be Alolan Exeggcute which are 6 coconuts
It’s just the same sad pile of eggs we know and (don’t) love. See the Japanese trailer.
;~; Aww man…. I really wanted 6 Grass/Water Coconuts
naw its already confirmed that its the same
I hope the Alola forms aren’t exclusively for gen 1 Pokemon, that would be weird. Why would only gen 1 Pokemon be able to adapt?
yeah this is something I’m kinda worried about myself.
a lot of Megas were gen 1 too… It’s because for some reason it’s the most popular gen
If gen 1 ‘moms are the only ones with new forms It’s probably just because S/M is the 20th anniversary game.
sad because genwunners will probably still hate them (as they do with all change and new things because they are not really fans, just nostalgia blind)
Celebrate 20 whole years, not just one year!
this is very overwhelming, but also pretty awesome. I like the alolan forms, it only makes sense that pokemon would adapt to their habitats. also Gumshoos…. when I look at it, it makes me think of a detective in a trench coat, (stakeout, something detectives do) and also detective gumshoe from ace attourney lol
I hope the next time Looker appears he has a Gumshoos It’d fit him a lot more than Croagunk.
Well rumor has it that he will be in this game so…..
Well RIP Croagunk… but he really needs a new partner and Gumshoos seems to be the one for the job.
Metamorphis = called evolution
Real evolution = called “form”
Pokemon logic
That’s what I was thinking.
question: if the leak is true, will Cynthia be wearing the blue top as seen in the Black and White anime, considering that it’s going to be tropical? Or her usual black glory.
Where’s the leak that says Cynthia will be back?
further down below of the other comments here.
https://m.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4tokxf/rumor_more_on_that_chinese_rumor_from_some_time/
who’s AZ
You know, the tall guy from Pokemon X & Y?
She’ll be naked this time.
so will blue.
L-lewd
lol!
or bikini.
http://shironakarius.deviantart.com/art/Last-Summer-Night-s-Dream-564380481
Close enough for me!
I LOVE THE NEWS!!!! i am honestly still processing all this information but it’s a good day to love pokemon 🙂 😀
I’m with you. I am loving all this!!!!! XD
I. Want. A. Fire/Flying. Pegasus Rapidash. NOW.
If only Gen 1 Pokemon can have Alola forms, I’m going to start getting ticked off with all the gen 1 favoritism. I know it’s the 20th anniversary and all, but still. Let’s celebrate 20 years of Pokemon, and not celebrate just one game.
yeah that’s true :/
This whole year has been gen 1 homage after homage, it’s getting tiring. Gen 1 isn’t the only game, we are supposed to be celebrating all 20 years!
yeah, my TCG collection would have loved a “Fire starter collection” (water/grass) with all the starters as alternate art EX pokemon, but nooooooooo, gotta shove more gen 1 down my throat.
Gen 1 is also far from the best game, but now we are getting into controversial territory, so I’ll cut myself off.
Well not to me its not!
Holly shit people, get of you complaining box, and look at all the awesome stuff they just reviled. Like really, instead of complaining and ruining everyone else happy hours, (non alcoholic) talk about the stuff that you DO like.
I’m sorry if I offended you, I’m just making a fair point. Gen 1 isn’t what we should be celebrating here, it should be Pokemon as a whole.
well that’s also true i guess they can add regional forms in future gens now it’s a thing 🙂
finally someone says it. this is what ticks me off the most about pokemon GO.
To be fair, it was a smart decision, as it (unfortunately) brought in old fans.
which really bugs me. they aren’t even hiding the fact that it is an obvious cash grab.
Plus my experience with Genwunners is that they are mean (no offense if anyone here is a genwunner, but I doubt you are because we are taking about gen 7).
*I don’t like the use of the word retarted but i found this funny*
XD
Some people I went to grad school with are genwunners and, yes, they’re mean. They feel superior, at least the ones I’ve encountered. I was like that once, then I played B2. Now I love all generations
Genwunners I’ve passed playing Pokemon GO acted like they knew more than me because “it was their generation”.
I hate when they do that, and tbh, most of them only really care about one pokemon… Charizard, which is why I had/sometimes still have such a hate for Charizard over the years, because its the catalyst for ignorance
Wow. What a great way to explain that. Always liked Bulbasaur (the forgotten one :'( ) more
My favorite Mega!
On GO I chose Charmander because I had a feeling it’s not as abundant where I live. Bulbasaur and Squirtle pip up more often. Charizard is so overrated
i prefer ninetails than charizard
It’s dumb because it’s everyone’s generation. My niece wanted to start playing the originals, but liked the new graphics so I got her Fire Red. Gen 1-ish was her gen too
Ask them which pokemon was designed first and if they don’t say “Rhydon”, punch them for me.
I avoided it precisely because it was a cash grab among many other reasons. Plus the number of people who only play Pokemon GO and won’t attempt to pick up the main series game when it arrives is annoying.
As a side note, Shuffle and Rumble are keeping me content. (As well as IV training).
Seriously. Why is Charizard the one we’re flying on? Other bird Pokemon would look more natural. Gimme Honchkrow.
Most bird Pokemon are really small.
Wished it was Dragonite or anything else
Everyone needs to chill. We literally only got three lines. It’s too soon to make assumptions that will only cause anger.
Yeah I know. :/ But it worries me how the ones mentioned in the leak are all gen 1.
Also the number of fan made gen 1 Kanto pokemon are disproportionate. I’m beginning to believe a lot of people cap out at remembering 151 pokemon.
I agree. Gen 1 wasn’t even good. I seriously hope we get Alola forms for other pokemon and That Other gens are added in GO
They NEVER said that it was JUST for gen 1 Pokemon, why is it that you all assume that just because they showed only gen 1 Pokemon in the commercial, that they aren’t making alternate forms for other Gens as well. Holly crap people.
Calm down. I’m just making a point. The ones in the leaks, which are likely true, are all gen 1 as well.
Actually we’re assuming it because people keep making fan art of gen 1 alola forms and ignoring the other ~570 pokemon available.
What worries me more is the possibility of only getting 60-70 new Pokemon and rest being new forms of gen one Pokemon.
I wonder what this means to the amount of NEW Pokemon we will get.. This might make design easier for GF and all, but I don’t think it looks good for the numbers being higher than XY
alakasam is fighting? I don’t get it someone explain. They’re changing old poke typings?
Have you seen the English trailer that just came out? Watch it first, then you will understand. (See what they did to Vulpix, for example.)
oooh…just saw the trailer. Holy crap.
It’s not permanent, only for the Alola region
These are not permanent. This is why it’s an Alola form. This also happens in nature as Pokemon are based on actual animals.
Guys I have more proof for my idea that the island names are Yellow, Red, Purple and Pink! Not only the tag on the bags for those competing in the island challenge are these colours but so are that new bird dancer Pokemon! Different colours for each island…
Islands will be MeleMele, Poni, Ula Ula, and Akala.
The biodiversity withing pokemon species is Oh Em Gee! I feel like I’m 11 again
Alright let’s get something clear
Alolan Variants seem to be based solely on Environmental Adaptations
So I don’t believe that everything will get abrupt forms
I can believe such a hyper tropic ecosystem would cause such an accelerated growth
I don’t think it was really accelerated, the pokemon probably came over to the region like an extremely long time ago and then adapted slowly over time to their habitat, you know, like real life..
Wow this was a lot of info and plus it confirmed this leak
But I’m still iffy on the trials. Because I want them to be battles..
Is this news real?
Yes
I wonder if that certain guy that I blocked and whose comments I can’t read is raging already. Heh heh heh. (Not Earthen, he’s too cool to block.)
Not on here, at least I can’t see him.
I haven’t seen him in a long while but I’m sure when he does come on he’ll be raging (not sure if I blocked him or not actually so maybe he is here)
If we are talking about the same person, I haven’t seem this person in awhile…
Neither have I. And I’ve never blocked anyone.
Same 🙂
I see the value in all opinions and viewpoints, even if it might get a bit too much. Plus, with most people, you can communicate with them and have a good time. :3
I’m not about to block anyone, but I don’t want to see him here again.
They could be really nice though :/ They just really didn’t like the news. If they came back I just hope they would be in a better mood :3
Clearly you weren’t here when things got heated. xD
I was, we fought intensely and it was horrible. There were times they were nice though and if they were willing to act like they did then I would welcome them back.
I regret participating in the fight, but it’s too late. But it wasn’t that he just disliked he news, it was more than that.
He literally said at one point though that he thinks we all deserve to die and pretty much wishes he could be the one to do it, so I wouldn’t give him that benefit of the doubt…
I am not giving them the benifit of the doubt, I have actually had pleasant conversations with them. They were horrible to all of us, but if they could be more respectful I wouldn’t exclude them.
fair enough, you are a better person than I thats for sure, 😛
I can understand why 🙂 he did say some very negative things towards me and other people.
But I did have a few good convos with him, so I can forgive him slightly 🙂
I’m not trying to be mean, but he clearly has issues that needed to be worked out. If he is all over that (I know it’s not easy to get past but it’s not impossible) then he’s welcome back (at least in my eyes).
Anyone should always be welcome here. He had different opinions and a different temperament, but this is a community where everyone is welcome. And I think it may be a bit rude to be discussing him in such a way; you never know if he’s reading these comments anonymously. 🙂
True, but as you said, anyone should be welcome, and the way he acted was not welcoming to anyone. I’ll leave it at that, you’re right, we shouldn’t be discussing this.
Well at some point sometimes a person is just too negative and all they do is spout expletives and threats without even trying to convince people of anything. 🙂
I am an optimist but I decided that his posts are excessively unhealthy. Kekeke.
That’s true, and whenever it did, I just didn’t read them/ignored them. I still had some nice convos so it wasn’t worth blocking anyone, in my eyes.
Is it, the guy? Like the one who dislikes gaming?
idk, he seems to like persona quite a bit
He who must not be named.
naw, voldmort is more another member of the community, says some crazy things sometimes but tolerable.
This guy was more like Umbridge….
Haven’t seen him/her, but let’s keep this out of here. Respect others as you would want to even if others don’t show it to you. Not trying to start anything, but I also don’t want him/her to come in and be triggered with the talking behind his/her back
I completely agree. As I said below, you never know if he’s reading or not.
Well I’m sorry that I don’t have a limitless tolerance for all kinds of people and negativity.
Maybe you’re a better person than I am, and you’re good at psychotherapy, so more power to you.
Regardless, I think respect should still be there, even if you don’t care for the person.
I’m not mad at you and I get where you’re coming from. I’ve butted heads with him/her before. Just try not to let the negativity get the better of you. You’re a nice person and I respect your feelings and opinion, otherwise I wouldn’t have responded if I didn’t care
if you had seen some of the things that he said to members of the community, some of which were being quite kind to him I doubt you would think that way, I’m all for respecting others, but this guy literally, and I mean literally wishes physical harm upon others, among other things that are bad even in internet terms
If there was a way to private message you, I would be more than happy to explain
no I get it, I really do, two wrongs do not make a right, I guess I just had a limit and the person totally destroyed it and disrespected some amazing people on this site. I will try not to talk about them when they are not present though, it is something I am working on, trying to work to better myself and rise above hate, but its difficult sometimes
I am proud of you. If you need any advice I am here. I understand that what was being said was totally wrong, but let’s learn and move on. Your on the right path
I did see it, and I even was there confronting him about it. The things he said may be wrong, but it’s wrong to talk when he’s not there and disrespect him.
There is some good there, it’s just hard to see at times. 🙂
When comes this news on serebii.net?
Now.
It’s there now…
Serebii Joe only can’t post the starter pics at the risk of getting Cease and Desist.
Serebii only updates with officially revealed information. As these are only leaks, they’re likely to not be included in Joe’s feed.
I’m really excited for the Regional Forms now. Can Sun and Moon come sooner please?
Lol, let them take their time, so it can be as good as possible 😉
I hope they used their off year to learn from XY mistakes!
GOTTA HAVE THAT LONG NECKED EXEGGUTOR IN AMIE LIKE RIGHT NOW
Oh I forgot about Amie! That will be THE BEST!!!
That brings a question of if there’s a SCROLL BAR in Amie just for Exeggutor…
Or we’re stuck to grooming its tail head
Well to access that head, Amie has to have a rotate feature as well… Unless the “back” is shown by default…
..
Refreshed expecting a picture. Dissapointed lol
Now u feel as me..
Same
Island Challenge Trails based on info:
Lana – Finding a rare or special Water-Type.
Mallow – Finding four ingredients.
Sophocles – Solving a puzzle.
Kiawe – Finding the difference in dances.
Still, that incoming Fire or Fire/Ground Marowak.
Fire/Ground Typhlosion is still a possibility! Sorry, just a bit excited rn haha.
Also, what is rf? I’m an old
Fire/Ground Typhlosion!
“rf” is extreme shorthand for “refresh”.
Which is because in new posts sometimes we don’t see the pics so pic posters often ask to reload the page. But I guess you already knew this with the exception of the shorthand.
Thank you lol
Really dissapointed with the Alolan forms. Never had an issue with any Gen except this one. And of the starters the only cool one is Rowlets evo.
Just use a starter from another gen if you can’t get around it. I know I can’t so I’m using cyndaquill.
It wouldn’t be the same..
I’m Definitely changing to team Rowlett as well!
It looks like many people are changing teams! :p
I’ve actually changed from Team Litten to Team Popplio.
When comes the Pokedex page on serebii.net?
When the game comes out.
If there’s anything I wonder, it would have to be where the name Z Moves comes from. Could it have ties to Zygarde and a potential Kalos postgame?
So what are their typings?
Apparently
Grass/Flying
Fire/Dark
Water/Fairy
I refuse to believe those types
Prepare for it. Fairies will be taking up 50% of the Alolan Pokedex
And flying.. then but myb
I think Water3 might have a chance to be Water/Ice. Still, I love the idea of Water/Fairy.
As do I! Still not sure about my starter, though…
Where did you get fire dark?
Completely speculative at this point, though it’s a solid guess looking at its design.
Saying its fire dark seems like denial. Embrace the fire fighting future!
Lol. .. ?
It’s been tossed around a couple of times a while ago
It’s obviously a fighter, but with the fire belt and the wicked claws on his massive hands, it looks like it would utilize shady tactics in a fight, ergo Dark-type.
Unfortunately, the starter typings weren’t directly part of the leak, or at least the reddit thread we’ve seen. But we can guess.
Though my guess for Pops is Water/Ice contrary to the popular view.
Cynthia in Sun and Moon will be glooooooriousssssss
My life is upside down now .-. .. Pokemon..
Y u Do dis?
Which one you hate the most, the water right?
It just doesn’t even look like a Pokemon to me…. Like… Wut
They look like Pokemon to me… because their Pokemon. They don’t look to bad to me! We have feminine looking male Pokemon.
Yeah they also are very much Sugimori’s style.
Yeah.. I get some of u like it…
It doesn’t either to me. Try a different starter or use one from previous generation. All hope is lost for me. It’s not that it’s feminine because I love gardevoir, it’s just ugh.
Exactly. Really wondering how they will make this bottom heavy thing battle on land
It’s great for like a pokemon contest but to each it’s own. If the extra evolution is true for starters, I might give it another try.
Exactly! That’s the Only place I see it… A stage
You could always choose another starter. Or just stop evolving at whatever stage you’re satisfied with.
I may. I have no problem with eviolite
But what if they’re all bad. It kind of ruins the fun of playing the game with a starter. At least for me.
Well you’re allowed to have your opinions, but I have no problem with ditching a starter if I’d rather use something else. However, there’s always been at least one starter that I liked, and with the last three generations I’ve loved the underdogs (Popplio3, Delphox, and Samurott).
Delphox was no underdog (at least, in the beginning, before final evolutions were revealed). I was team Chespin from the beginning until the end <3
I liked Popplio, but dislike it's final evo :/
I was speaking of the final evolutions, not the basic stages. It’s a pretty common consensus that Delphox and Samurott were the most hated of their trios.
… I love Samurott <3 (though I'm aware I'm an outlier hahaha)
I used Delphox and samurott and enjoyed as well. It most likely will come down to using a previous starter or maybe the grass one will grown on me, who knows.
Sun and Moon not only touching upon Mythology and Alchemy but Biology now too? Damn
Lots of research went into this game, that’s for sure 🙂
team:
Rowlet
Alolan Sandshrew (uh duh)
Rockruff (depends on final)
and pending, I think other alolan versions of gen 1.
What was your old name? (Are you the last kurusu?)
“littenitup” yeah I know… Ditched Litten of course
I’m so excited for the Alolan Ninetales c:
nais name 😉
Those starter evos are horrible.
Almost gen 5 horrible ….almost
I love Serperior! It wasn’t that strong though
It is with hidden ability. Me too
did not have that one then I guess
Gen 5 is probably my favorite, but it does have the worst starters.
it has some of my faves yes! Volcarona whoopwhoop
i have to agree, gen 5 has one of the best designs even though they did kinda overdo alot of things
Lol I dunno based on final evos this gen is taking that title
I’d dare say… worse.. (Emboar’s design isn’t bad)
Thanks for clarifying this! I was wondering what rumours were confirmed exactly.
My main thought on all this:
-Still divided between my love for the rowlet evo, my dissapointment in the popplio one, and my hatred for cancerous luchador tony the tiger. Eh, I’ll warm up to them.
-The other bits of the rumour look tantalising though, as do the extra rumours posted by people below Though multiple starter evos is kind of a red flag for this new 4chan thing. For a second I thought this rumour had been well constructed in a short time, but turns out it’s from April. This makes me highly suspicious of it as it actually doesn’t have any overlap with the new info (or the chinese rumours for that matter) other than the base concept. It seems more like the op came up with his own concept for regional variation and got lucky. Read their post, no mention of type changing (unlike everything that’s legit, plus the chinese rumour), and no actual pokemon overlapping apart from a vague mention of dodrio. You know what, I’m calling fake on it IMO.
-Z moves I’m completely indifferent to, not excited or annoyed but happy you need to carry the item so it’s not broken AF, makes standard pokemon and prevos somewhat able to compete with megas, I like that. They also seem to kill the idea of synchro, and thank Arceus. Could still be wrong on that, but I really hope not. Alola forms are so much of a better idea.
-Dafuq we’re getting our next news as soon as the 12th? Smells like corocoro preemption to me..
A few other thoughts:
– Lurantis not bug type, thanks trollfreak…though the suggestions it’s supposed to be a reversed mantis orchid do save this for me, if true.
-OK why the hell are they “Z” moves and why “Z” power? Something to do with Zygarde or pokemon Z? According to Masuda interviews from the Japan Expo (from Pokebip, probs the biggest french site I believe), they didn’t really even consider making a Z, they just wanted to go straight to the next step… Which goes against this being named in reference to a scrapped Z version. But then again it’s too soon for Gamefreak to look good (in their eyes judging by their secretive nature) revealing the scrapped a game, and trollfreak be trollfreak and also wetellyouonlywhatwewanttotellyouFreak, so you never know, he may very well have been obfuscating to hide things, he’s not averse to it… Or it could just be stuff to do with Zygarde, as others have suggested. Wow this gen is getting complicated.
-What with the Alola variant pokemon, and gamefreak reducing the number of new pokemon in XY because megas took up new design slots, I fear we’ll barely get more pokemon than XY. Well, maybe if they go with the “odd gens=130-160 new pokemon” ethic, we’ll get a hundred or so (eh, that’s actually pretty good compared to XY). And alarmingly they’re still being overzealous with the reveals… Don’t you dare reveal over 50% of the pokedex or all the new forms again Gamefreak! That’s just an absolutely sh*t marketing strategy and disappointing for most fans.
-Also I’m calling it now, thanks to variants, no new megas. Hope it ain’t true, but I’d rather not get my hopes up. And that’s if we even get megas. I’m not expecting them to be dumb (or ballsy, or both) enough to remove them, but some people suggesting it is enough to scare me. I’m backing those who think megas will be postgame, there’s way too much mechanics to deal with in the main story as is.
– The suggestion from the Alola form descriptions that we get stat changes does give fighting alakazam a bit more potential sense stats wise, assuming they don’t go the troll route and leave it with unusable attack. But wait what happens to mega alakazam?? does it become fighting too? Another mega instead? So many weird implications from this!
-And a final treat theory for those who read this far: What if yungoos were hunting alolan dark-type ratatas all along?
Well regarding Corocoro, I’m guessing they have been de-emphasized as a source of info since they have to print the thing by the 12th (?) to get it on the streets by the 15th, so the possibility for leaks of people getting the magazine early is just too high.
Well the reason for calling them Z-moves is still a mystery, but I’m guessing it does have something to do with Zygarde. Maaaaaybe Zygarde is part of a postgame mission that unlocks these powers?
So does this mean… Those are all of ash’s pokemon likely? Looks Like he’s going for cutesy again.. ?
Instead of bashing the starters; what Alola form are you all looking forward to the most? For now, it looks exclusive to the Kanto region, but I hope other regions are involved. I really want to see the Water Growlithe Line! Yet, we’re getting a bunch of Fighting Types. I kinda want to see a Ghost Type Abra Line.
Didn’t the rumor say the abra line would be fighting? It sounds very interesting none the less.
It did! I just wanted to see a Ghost line instead!
Yeah, hopefully it’s one of the mistakes the leaker made 😉
Well since they messed up Ninetales’ type, I’m positive that perhaps more of the Alola formes are gonna be different from the leak as well.
well now you can have 2 ninetales in ur team without conflicting types 😉
Well the leak got Alola Ninetales’ type wrong (they said Fire/Fairy), so that’s the most likely part the leak was wrong and the other mentioned stuff could have different types.
I mean like:
Alolan Ninetales ice fairy
Regular Ninetales fire
two Ninetales in one team without the same type
ghost type abra line would be dope! and i would add it to my team in a second
alolan ninetales couldve been easily been a ghost type..
Alola Pikachu
don’t think they r gonna change pikapika
It’s gonna be Water so it’ll justify surfing Pika…
What about flying pika!?
Flying/Water? XD
I really hope they keep it simply Kanto now
Fairy Rhyperior
Why must you torment me
I’m sorry I just couldn’t help it. What would you want?
Still Ground, they way it should be
Ground/Fighting? When you mentioned that combo way back when, I was hooked
I only mentioned Ground/Fighting for a totally unique Pokemon
The rugby-playing gorilla that looks more and more likely since it’s part of this leak?
Look I don’t trust any of the leaks regardless of what’s happening
Some could be real while others are just leeching off them
The gorilla, right? I want it to happen
ROTHL
Rhyhorn & Rhydon are from Kanto, after all
Water/Fairy Rhyhorn line. 😉
That’s beyond stupid
???
But he learns surf…
no man, bug 😉
Unlikely. 🙂
I kid obviously. 😉
I would massacre it
Water Growlithe hype….boat?
Yasssss
I’ve always wanted one.. but Charizard… Maybe it’s water type will fit my team now
I’m personally hoping for a roserade line variant
Grass Fairy or Grass water i think would be cool to see
Alolan Lumineon. That thing is soooo forgotten.
Finneon and Lumineon are so underrated and understandably so, but come on, Lumineon’s coloration and design is superb.
meh i dont like it
I wholeheartedly agree. Lumineon is easily my favorite water-type pokemon!
Lumineon has such a beautiful cry.
I’d love to see something crazy happen to Dodrio along the same lines of Exeggutor. Maybe Hypno can gain another type that adds to its lore?
Yeah, like dark, ghost… or fairy.
Maybe an Alolan Ludicolo, different belly pattern to feel the Hawaiian vibe~
I would love to see a new version of Electabuzz, lapras or maybe even a grass rapidash?
Hmm. I’ve given it a lot of thought, but here’s my current team for S/M.
Popplio
Fomantis
Rockruff
Salandit
Some form of Oricorio
Alolan Sandshrew
But as more Pokemon get revealed, we’ll have to see where this list goes!
Alolan Sandshrew says hi
What I like about these new Pokemon is how lively and full of character they are. From the small descriptions given on the site to the idle animations of the Pokemon in-game, GameFreak is going out of their way to ensure that each and every one of them have their own little unique detail. I highly appreciate the effort that they have put in this game.
Does anyone else Still not know what they want on their team? Maybe I’m waiting for stats..
Yeah, although I usually don’t plan a team and just catch what I find.
well mine is far from complete, maybe I will box all the new ones and go with an all gen 1 alolan team
I had an idea, then the Alola variants came out lol
All I know is that Mimikyu will definitely be on it. I’m not using any of the starters.
I generally don’t plan a team until I see the final evolutions (I like to have dual-type pokemon). Currently thinking of having Rowlet/Popplio, Pikipek/Oricorio, Mimikyu, and Komala.
so far, popplio, Bewear, Lurantis, and Ninetails
That’s a cute contest team
I like my pokemon beautiful. that alolan ninetails is making me break my rule of only that gen’s pokemon for my first playthrough.
Omg… Ikr.. I wanted to stick to one gen at a time as I always do.. but technically isn’t it a gen 7 pokemon now? That’s what I’m telling myself anyways hehe. I may want the water arcanine
You should add the new electric flying cheerleader bird hehe
I kinda like the ghost one and the psychic personally. but, id like to weigh my options and find some more pokemon before I fill up those last 2 spots.
No. What’s the point of planning a team before the game comes out? I prefer going through “Oh look at that it looks awesome!
I do that too, but it’s fun to speculate.
Then once the game is acquired, all hell breaks loose and I just pick up what comes by… like that Panpour from my first ever run of XY…
Popplio, for now. I’m liking all of the Fairy types they’ve introduced so far, the probability of me going Mono-Fairy would actually be very likely
Join me on the darkside! ლ(́◉◞౪◟◉‵ლ)
I’m probably going Water-Mono this gen.
I’d not worry about stats. For in-game, stats are easily overcome with EV’s (even randomly gained ones) and more levels.
Definitely getting Rowlet as my starter. However, I do love the designs of the other two starters. Popplio reminds me of Ariel and Litten reminds me of the beast from The Boy and the Beast. Honestly, I don’t understand the hate the starters are getting; these are very well designed Pokemon and unless you somehow got the games early, how can you judge something based solely on appearance? Just as the old saying goes: don’t judge a book by its cover. GameFreak is truly changing and spicing things up after 20 years of the same formula and I could not be happier. Instead of focusing on the negative aspects, try to see the positive side so that your level of excitement does not slump. 😀
Seriously. I know opinions clash and I’m not trying to start a heated debate, but why do people dislike the final evolutions? At the start, I hated them and regared them as fake. Now, I’ve warmed up to their designs as they gleam with personality! I’m a little mad that Litten isn’t on all fours, but that’s it.
I honestly love them all!
I’m just upset because for once I was excited for Popplio
But now it’s disgusting
Sure Litten’s badass but that means choosing Litten….ill probably do everything to make it evolve fast
Litten is indeed a badass, should it be #teamfirecrotch or #teamwrestlercat ?
I actually don’t. 🙂
I still picked Fennekin after everyone jumped ship to Greninja. (And I got Zapdos out of it, so…)
#Instinct
The best bird competitively as the mascot for the worst GO team. 😀
Im a team instinct :c not that I really care about the teams though
You misspelled “most amazing” GO team.
I regretted choosing Greninja. I was thinking “finally, I can live with a water starter” and then the final evo came and I was like “What have I done”. Never picking a water starter ever again.
when they were first introduced I disliked both litten and Popplio and was in love with Rowlet, now with the finals I hated both rowlet final and litten final, but instantly loved popplio final, now I have warmed up to the litten final and slowly warming up to rowlet final.
I think people just need to give things a chance
indeed, I like Littens and Popplio’s when I first saw them but Rowlet eventually warmed up on me.
Beauty is based on the eye of the beholder. I think it’s due to how feminine Popplio is and how cliche Litten is. One broke a trope, the other one is too commonplace. I don’t understand the feminine argument for Popplio as males in the wild tend to have more colors and are more vivid compared to females and thought that was an old century thinking style, but color me surprised. As for Litten, people are tired of having muscular and masculine fire-starters as opposed to more creative and non-bipedal ones.
^ this
This yo. A lot of starters in the past few gens have been highly detailed bipeds and it’s just not my gig, especially when–sigh–this one looks like yet another typical fire/fighting mashup. Even if it isn’t actually that type that’s how it looks. And the seel is just overdone on the feminine nature. Dewgong always struck me as a pretty and feminine Pokemon but not in the overblown creepy way this one comes off… only redeeming factor about it is that it seems a counterpart for masculine looking samurott. But yah, haven’t been this disappointed with starters in a while, and as I haven’t liked a full set since sapphire that’s even more sad.
Litten is extremely disappointing and I absolutely hate the fire crotch, Rowlett is pretty ok but that type will screw it over so bad, and I hate how Poppolio looks.
Well I don’t hate them anymore. I was only really dissapointed by Rowlet3’s strange design anyway but I’ve learned to love it 🙂
Exactly, I almost want Litten now haha. It’s hard because I love Rowlet so much.
I never cared about the owl (even forgot its name) so it doesn’t really matter how its final evo is. I really disliked Popplio but if I get a female one I’m ok with the Siren. But what killed me was Litten: I loved it since the starters where announced. I love the alchemy symbol, the fact that it’s a cat and that it looks like my own cat. Its final evo should’ve been slim and on all fours, and definitely not fire/fighting (they’re so original). Even though I still love Litten I refuse to use that final evo, just like I do with Emboar.
I don’t mind the design (if they are true), I dislike the idea of another Fire/Fight starter..
For me, I don’t like Litten’s final form because it looks like another Fire/Fighting type, which at this point is boring AF and they should just not make any more pokemon (at least starters) with that typing. Plus, I liked LItten because it was cute, and it’s the only starter of the 3 whose final form isn’t cute in some way.
For Popplio, I actually really like the final form, I just think it kind of comes out of nowhere because it’s so distinctly feminine while the starter form doesn’t look specifically feminine at all. I’d like it better if Popplio looked a little more like something that would evolve into that.
I love that Litten one. I wouldn’t completely rule him out as being Fire/Dark yet: he could be the “bad guy” wrestler that you can’t help but love.
If it’s the final evolution, I may not pick Popplio after all.
I have nothing against Popplio’s evo.
The wrestling tiger is awful.
I don’t have an issue with fire-fighting starters, I just have an issue with this one.
What if they pull another Gen 6 and focus on reinventing old Pokémon instead of making new ones. That’s the only thing I’m worried about.
I wouldn’t mind with Alolan Pokemon. At least these are permanent unlike megas.
With the amount of new Pokemon they’re revealing at a time, I’m hopeful we’re in for a 100+ final count. At least on the official website, these new formes are classified as “Alolan” rather than “New,” but you have a valid concern.
I honestly doubt there will be enough Alolan forms to be a problem. With the number of new Pokemon they’re showing there should probobly be a good amount.
Good point. Prior to X/Y being released they pretty much revealed all Kalos Pokemon.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull of a 151 to honor the first games!
That would be neat.
ok I will be choosing popplio. I really wish I could go with litten, but not with that final evolution.
So, I realized a flaw in my OR party, none of my Pokémon can learn fly. Anyone know a Pokémon that can learn fly that is ‘smart’. I need to replace Metagross.
just use latios
Nah. I don’t wanna use a legendary.
you can use the eon flute to glide wherever you want, no need to have a pokemon with fly
I just don’t want to have to keep a Legendary in my Party, I’m still training it.
it doesn’t need to be in the party
Yeah. I realized.
Xatu. Sigilyph. Lati@s.
???
Thanks. I think I’ll use Xatu. (Man I can’t believe I didn’t think of that.
I can’t believe it either…
Okay, Final decision, I’m choosing Litten for Sun and Popplio for Moon.
Also, Lurantis looks cute.
I’m doing Litten for Sun and Rowlet for Moon 🙂
Hey, we’ve got the same starter choices! 🙂
I’m also choosing Popplio for Moon. Looks like I will only be buying one, like in ORAS.
Also, the total amount of revealed Pokemon is now 31! Including evolutions*, that’s bumped up to 41!
*2 for each starter, Komala evolution, Rockruff evolution, 2 Pikipek evolutions.
Don’t forget that 3 more island guardians are likely. And where did you get the Komala evolution from?
It apparently has “parents”.
At least one possible Rockruff Evo. I hope they slow down to one or two pokemon reveals a months…
AIN’T NO STOPPING THIS HYPE TRAIN!
Wait maybe this means we will get ‘new’ eevee evolutions after all:
Jolteon becomes ground/rock
Flareon becomes flying
Vaporeon becomes dragon
That doesn’t make sense though. What makes Jolteon, well, Jolteon, is the fact that it absorbed the power of lightning. If it’s ground or rock it’s not a Jolteon at all. It would make more sense to just make a new eeveelution.
SANDshrew.
That’s different. It was a Sandshrew back when it was first brought to Alola and over time adapted to the ice. Eevee into Jolteon is an abrupt change brought on by a thunderstone.
Snowshrew
well… it just a quick thought. And it’s about adopting to the envirement, so it can change u know, just like sandshrew just like vulpix.
Because Vulpix and Sandshrew fled to the snowy mountains because of volcanic eruptions and Exeggutor because of the intense tropical climate
Unfortunately, Alolan Sandshrew exists, even the Japanese name refers to sand… 🙁
This, this what I was afraid of and was right
Stupid people saying stupider Alolan variants that have no reasons
sorry, and u r? #byefelicia
I don’t go saying crap without backing it up with logic
I thought this was a place of safety to say whatever you want wihout judgements. Too bad there are some people who r well… not so free of mind
Uhhhhh have you met me?
no thank god.
The logic for the revealed variants was a climate adaptation.
Flareon are found in the highlands of Alola where it’s windy. It is flying type.
Basically what they did to Ninetales lol
Don’t call other people stupid for simply sharing ideas and opinions, that is very childish and a form of bullying period.
I apologize for nothing
I want Alolan Sylveon to be Dragon-type or Flying-type. 😛
Hmm… I doubt eeveelutions will get Alolan forms…
According to the Alola descriptions we’ve been receiving, the climate and overall environment can change Pokemon forms and enable new typings so I wouldn’t be surprised.
yeah but if they gave new eevees they would basically just be new eeveelutions, so I’m like 99% sure eevee won’t get alolan variants, maybe just some evolutions but not variants
True. Just getting my hopes up considering the Alola climate + Eevee’s abnormal genetics/DNA… xD
I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave them a different look or something but if they changed their typing… I don’t know… It doesn’t make that much sense to me… We’ll see I guess.
^this, if their looks were changed it would be fine, but typings would be confusing
Well it probably wouldn’t be called Sylveon anymore, for one…
Sylveon would still work for a Flying-type. I mean Vulpix and Sandshrew still kept their names.
Well Vulpix just implies it’s a fox, not that it’s fire-type… 🙂
Though we’ll have to see, but I’d rather there be a new eeveelution with a unique name rather than an alola form.
Drakeon?
Sandshrew still has sand but is Ice/Steel. Maybethe steel is a play on the composition of sand…nvm, carry on lol
My team thus far:
– Rowlet/Popplio
– Pikipek/different flying-type
– Lurantis
– Pseudo-legend
So I am absolutely the Only one interested in the thought that we could be looking dead at ash’s Alolan team? I’m surprised he went for the big strong one and not the speedy looking one. And made his team weak and unevolved again
What are you saying would be his team?
In the litten final evo pic
Oh… I hope he doesn’t get all the starters again this time… I like it when each companion gets a starter :/ Dang…
Also, I’m confused… I hope you can still use the non alolan forms on island
It seems you can only obtain non-Alolan Pokemon through Bank.
You probobly can, you might have to transfer them from an older game with poke bank though, which might be annoying.
Lol yeah you’ll be able to. They wouldnt have RBY or the other games transfer to S&M if you couldn’t.
Noticed this in the jap trailer
Lol yeah it controls the tail to protect from behind.
It looks like… something else, but at least game freak can say “it’s at the back”!
looks like the plant dudes from super mario sunshine
Oh, those guys! I forgot what they were called too.
I just remember Delfino Plaza thanks to Brawl.
Lol I still can’t get past this face though
Y it became Dragon .. . I will never know
Because some palm trees can grow in such weird patterns that they look like dragons.
Look up a Dragon Palm.
another Pokemon with a face on its tail, speaking of Girafarig, we need a new giraffe Pokemon
That pokemon would Totally fit in this gen. .
GameFreak had a drunk field day when they designed this. I absolutely love it!
Yeah like twenty years ago lol
I’ve seen this somewhere before and it’s driving me crazy.
gulpin
terrible. looks like a deformed petilil stuck there
JESUS H CHRIST
ALOLAN EXEGGUTOR ARE 35FT TALL
All the better to see you with, my dear.
? I don’t want this thing looking at me… Creepy
I will kill that Coconut
*Giga Drain* gg Rhyperior
That’s why I have Mamoswine
And don’t forget I have Megahorn
True true, one little ice ball and poof
So y is everyone regarding every other rumor as fact now except 2 final forms of each starter? Did the same person not say it??
Rumours going around that Mallow might be Ash’s female companion lol
I thought this too
she is
Not Lillie? But I guess they have plans for Lillie like making her an evil team spy or government agent investing Zygarde..?
Lillie is so cute looking though, I had wished she would travel with ash (and maybe hau as well)
Maybe Lillie and Mallow? He has 2 female companions in Kalos too so. I dont mind Brock returning, still my favorite Anime character aside from Ash.
yeah she’s the girl together with ash on the litten evo draft photo
Would love that. She seems very bright, adventurous, and all around just a great person to be with. She reminds me of a more up-beat Misty and along with her interest in nature (and cooking?) and battling, hopefully she equates to much more than just being a cheerleader.
A cooking girl. 😉
Finally… LOL
I wish they would have a female travel companion that would actually battle the gyms with as and wanted to be a champion just as much as ash, having them finally face off against each other in the league in the final, and then having her win because ash suxs
I wouldn’t mind that.
i have to start preparing myself for serena’s departure
Good, I hate Serena, wish she’d just bore off. I want to strangle her.
Lol… Y… What did she do wrong??
She’s lame and she uses a Pancham, which is adorable and she isn’t worthy of it.
??? ok
Plus I don’t like the concept of Amourshipping in a series like Pokémon, but thats just me.
I get that
I mean, they are 10 years old so they may not even have hit puberty yet so they really wouldn’t have any attraction, just enjoy being in the company of others, they are children for goodness sake
actually in the Japanese dub, they are 13, which in many parts of Japan if my memory serves me, is the age of consent!
never heard that, but cool I guess, still find it a little weird lol
Well duh! It’s Kalos! France! The land of love and beauty! Of course that’s why the shipping.
aw really? i like serena! and this whole amourshipping is driving me nuts
Well what do you expect! Kalos is France, it’s the land of love after all!
like you would for Iris, Dawn and May before. Seriously, you just can’t take seeing those female trainers since Misty left.
It’s become the norm theme for Pokemon now, either we like it or not.
No I actually liked Dawn and May.
me to, but that doesn’t stop those nostalgic fans here who are begging for the old series and formula to come back, which it did with eshop’s release of Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fantendo/images/2/21/Mallow.png
yes Gyms and yes Pokémon League
no gyms. no league.
It’s being replaced by Island Trials and Kahuna battles.
Here’s a screenshot of the Lana’s trail and riding a Mudsdale on Route 2. rf.
There needs to be gyms and a Pokemon league… It’s not Pokemon without them…
4 trial captains + 4 leaders = 8 leaders, there’s your gym leaders.
And 4 totem Pokemon
Super Bosses! Whoop whoop!
Are you not tired of essentially playing the same game every few years? With this, it’s similar enough to a league, but it’s also a breath of fresh air.
So, GameFreak can’t innovate or try new things. k…
I just like the gyms. It’s a staple of Pokemon… Change other things instead
The formula had become dull and stale. Refreshment and innovation was needed to keep the franchise alive.
There are other ways. Gyms are so fun and exciting. We’ll have to see how/if they stack up
I was actually never excited about gyms. They feel almost a different variation of the same thing (do some puzzle-ish thing and battle). I like the trial idea and wonder if it’s going to make it feel like LoZ and fight the boss at the end.
You basically have to build your own league, like the leaks hinted at.
what if there is no villainous team as well
That I’m okay with
Embrace the future. Move on from what makes it a Pokemon game and enjoy the breath of fresh air they are providing.
But gyms suck, it’s just an excuse to make you visit the region.
Omg… It looks more like Trump than before you guys. Maybe they’re telling us something. ?
With the sales surge of recent Pokemon titles, XY might just pass the 15 million marker and become the 1st Nintendo 3DS game to do so in history. 😀
I literally can’t wait for these games to come out so I get to explore all of Alola because it looks so beautiful and big ^^
yes mega
What?
I’m guessing we can only pick a “Z-Move OR a Mega” once per fight.
That’s my assumption as well. I don’t think Megas could use Z-Moves as they cannot hold a Mega Stone and a Z-Crystal.
Did you bring up the limited turn-based mega?
Yes I did. It’s a hope, but I doubt it will be implement as of now.
True, just wanted to let you know that I like that idea very much. It feels more balanced
fake STARTER EVOLUTIONS
Uh. Mallow from the trailers is there cooking with Fire3 (Litten’s final evo). Also, the Chinese leaker, which is 95% right confirmed them.
Favorite travelling companions BASED on character, involvement, impact, and potential:
1. May: had the best character arcs of any travelling girls and went from a shy, uncertain new trainer to a competant and competitive young lady who, by the end of the series was one of the mkst fully fleshed characters of the group
2. Misty: personality, drive, and was simply badass with a great character arc and developed a true friendship with Ash and is now more successful than he is
3. Dawn: a watered down version of May who somehow managed to carve out her own niche and sas the most Ash-like girl companion to date and I somehow see her as a battler more than a coordinator and her rivalry with Zoey and depression arc was lit AF and ACTUALLY talked with Ash’s other friends and communicated with them…
4. Serena: pleasant albeit a little too much so and her character arc, although rushed showed her potential and her hair cutting scene was pure perfection
5. Iris: bratty, no real character development (in the games she was superb), and all around a bland shtick version of the amazing character in the games that many people loved
Lurantis nears perfection, but those cringeworthy clown pants makes it a 8/10 instead of a 10/10.
I actually like the pants… O///O
bacon pants 12/10
But it’s Prada!
Wes if you’re still on, you may want an Ocean Vivillon?
Hey. I’m new to this, but I’ve been following discussions and articles on pokejungle since black and white were announced. What made me want to create an account was because of the reveal of Alolan forms. This reveal brought to my attention a rumor from 2008 prior to the announcement of generation V. Please check out the link if you’d like. I also attached pictures since they’re not available in the link.
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/generation-v-sneak-peek.159503790/
Hai 😀 Welcome to the Jungle! :3
Always exciting to get new faces 🙂
And that indeed does look interesting
Electric Meganium? Neato!
Welcome!!!!!! <3
Welcome! Thanks for deciding to join the discussion!
Also hope the leaks of difficulty settings are true. X/Y were incredibly easy, which in turn made them rather boring.
When was this? I do seriously want the feature!
Ehm I read it on 4chan, it was listed among the June leaks I think.
You’d get a case of sunglasses from your mother, and each pair would represent a difficulty level.
Hmmm…. I think that rumor talked about gym leaders so that ones probobly fake.
Yes! Give us the difficulty! We need gen 4 difficulty!
I remember almost losing to Cynthia. D/P/Pt had the right difficulty mix. Including the older games!
Almost losing? I lose almost every time!
Garchomp slammed my Empoleon with Earthquake. My Ice Beams pulled through tho! 😉
That wasn’t in either of these leaks, it sadly is false and likely a fan dream. Though some of the stuff that is not the Chinese leak, sounds like a fan dream. Blue returning? And they also got Ninetales’s Alolan form type wrong. Fire/Fairy instead of Ice/Fairy. So I think most of that leak will be true and some of it will be false.
Sorry about earlier. I go through three stages of when we get an announcement:
1. Shock
2. Denial
3. Acceptance.
Currently in Denial. So much information that I can’t process and bring it to Acceptance yet.
The circle of life my friends, and it moves us all, through despair and hope, through faith and love, till we find our place. Hopefully you find your place. 😀
Es fine, you just gotta move past the first impressions and realize first impressions sometimes change.
Hopefully, after some time, you’ll process it and reach acceptance 🙂
Your good! You don’t have to like everything! Impressions always change overtime!
There was a leak that said it was fire/dark
One that was proven false unfortunately.
as well as it’s name. Although he may have mistranslated Robinroot’s name of being Robingroot. Though these names are said to have been leaked as far back as 2015
So what we have as female trainers.
Original series (Gen 1 & 2): Misty (Water Type Gym Leader)
Advance (Gen 3): May (Fire Type Starter) Torchic
Diamond & Pearl (Gen 4): Dawn (Water Type Starter) Piplup
Black & White (Gen 5): Iris (Dragon Type Gym Leader)
X & Y (Gen 6): Serena (Fire Type Starter) Fennekin
Sun & Moon (Gen 7): Mallow (Grass Type Captain) Rowlet
Bout time we’d have a Grass Type Companion, don’t you agree?
If Mallow does join Ash this is the first time in a long time I’ll be pissed if the anime does not do her justice. She’s slowly becoming my bias.
I’m more concerned with the fact that they might turn Ash into a novice trainer again, like they have been doing since the series’s introduction.
After placing 2nd/winning the league at Kalos?! O_O If they do, we’re rioting because last time Ash won anything, he just became more competitive; Frontier –> Epic Sinnoh Form.
They did it when he won the Battle Frontier whilst beating legendaries like the Regis and Articuno. Did it when he got top 4 in the Sinnoh League and did it for Kalos as well.
I’m afraid they will do so. A new series means new kiddies to join in with the new gaming experience. And if you know Pokemon as well as I do, the series tend to recycle the plot, as well as Ash’s destiny in order to make more money for the Pokemon Company.
If he wins the Kalos league, would make zero sense if they reset Ash again though.
Hopefully it’s not the good games bad anime situation like black and white.
With the political strife of the new decade, I’m not too surprised companies are opting for happy, go-lucky entertainment. Sadly, they seem to be affecting everything.
i hope the Rowlet in Ash’s group will evolve. Greninja’s with Ash and has this big Ash-Greninja thing while Delphox was the lead Pokemon of Aria. How ’bout Chesnaught? :/
Agree I think Ash will choose Litten though.
and evolve into Panthster, and into yet another disobeying Charizard.
Yeah and then Synchro’s with it to get Ash-Panthster and win the Alola League.
or how the money-making company handles the anime, most definitely not. You saw how Ash’s Charizard through his disobedient cost Ash the Kanto League.
NO HE WILL PICK ROWLET BECAUSE ITS THE CUTEST THING EVER
oh! So we’re having THIS craze again are we?
I feel like Ash will pick Rowlet :/
or maybe all three
Ash never gets the birds. Lol
Ash gets a bird almost every generation, to look for team rocket and lost Pokemon mostly.
I mean starter birds. Torchic and piplip
and now Rowlet. But still, at least Ash now has a Cat Pokemon of his very own to rub in the face of Meowth, and Popplio too.
Ah, well anything can change.
So with this new Poke Ride feature, is it safe to assume that HMs are gone?
Thank Arceus: it was about time.
Certainly seems like it.
I and some others talked about this. I think so! Charizard can do Soaring and Fly, while Sharpedo and Lapras could do Surfing and potential Diving. I’m glad; its about damn time their gone. It’s tedious to use them!
rip generic surfing sprite (1996-2016)
It may be gone, but not forgotten.
I hope somebody does a character analysis or paper on Ash soon because the series as a whole, when looked from a broad spectrum actually shows how well he is written.
It’s that time once again Junglers! Time to update our teams! Reply with yours!
Sun (primary game):
– Rowlet
– Salandit
– Mimikyu
– Sandslash
Moon (secondary game):
– Popplio
– Exeggutor
No
Yes
Ughhhhh
Litten
Rockruff
Mudsdale
– Rowlet/Popplio
– Pikipek
– Lurantis
– Pseudo-legend
– Wild Card
– Wild Card
I’ll make a team when I see the full dex. I’m going to start with Litten tho.
This is by far not my final team, but it’s fun to build with what we’re given. Plus, I’m trying not to know the whole dex beforehand.
Popplio
Mimmikyu
Ninetails (ice)
Oricorio (Sensu Style)
Lurantis
Comfey or Cutiefly
(will probably change once the game comes out)
We must have similar tastes, so far I am thinking:
Poppmaid
Lurantis
Cutiefly
Ninetails (Alola)
I won’t be going Oricorio, but the Sensu is by far the best design.
I usually go for pokemon with beauty, grace, or just general cuteness
Same. Though one regal/cool is also good for balance (Arcanine and Pyroar are the best examples). But I also think those two are cute as well. What was your first team in xy?
it was (not 100% sure)
Froakie
Spritzee
Bulbasaur (i think)
Flabebe (yellow)
Heliolisk
and then later on Trevenant
Sun:
Litten
Rockruff
Drampa
Oricorio
Sun (other game):
Rowlett
Komala
Salandit
Mudsdale
Moon:
Popplio
Ninetales
Bewear
Oricorio
You have a lot of free time in the future i guess? Haha
Lol… Not really. I use to rotate each game after one beat the gym but now
I have to figure out a new method of rotating…
Haha, I thought having both games and two teams was a job already xD
Only thing about these games I’m not into is Littens evolution
Throwback to when everyone hated Popplio and now Litten’s the one receiving all the hate. Oh how the tables have turned.
More like when all of them were getting a ton of hate and now only litten3.
An owl archer is pretty damn badass.
I’m just saying most people didn’t feel the same way, at least at first.
I understand. 😀
I’m in life with the thing.
I mean love.
I personally liked Popplio and I like it’s evolution because it’s different and I hate Littens evolution because it’s yet another bipedal fire starter and it’s likely the 4th fire/fighting too
They always do. “froakie is soooo ugly!”
I loved all of them, but Popplio the most. The hate was just unbearable.
I don’t actually dislike Panster — it’s more just alright in my eyes. I would rank it higher than Emboar and Typhlosion among the fire-starters.
#TeamRowlet since May 10
Day one fan here as well.
Right there with you but now I’m wondering if I’m going to get Popplio instead
#TeamRowletSinceTheFirstTimeISawIt
Team Popplio, but I do LOVE robbinhoot.
I’ll give everyone sometime. I remember when everyone and I hated Greninja! Now, everyone loves it and its ability. It’s popularity rivals Charizard. Things will change when they are official revealed and time passes.
No they won’t because I still hate the kalos final evolutions
Fire types have been through a lot since Blaziken. I like the Fennekin like though.
There will be more kitten/cat pokemon as a concession. The 2-stage cat that evolves depending upon the father’s typing.
Minior should evolve into an asteroid belt or something. too much potential for that cute rock!
Fuse it with Lunatone and Solrock and you’ve got a planetary system. 😀
OMG MAKE IT HAPPEN GF!
they should have this group with pokemon based on comets and maybe even black holes~
I hope it evolves into something cool
I love it too. I am expecting a colorful, glowing, and powerful pokemon.
Totem Gumshoos is encountered next to a TM
Good catch
I think you get the TM, you beat it.
It’s guarding HM Cut!
The only thing I want to cut is the HM itself.
…
It’s a joke lol.
Gen 6 I don’t care for Greninja
Gen 7 I don’t care for Litten
Can’t decide between Popplio and Rowlet :/ and it’s important because that’s what you remember most when you reflect on the games in the future years.
You’re simply not worthy enough for the mighty Greninja!
It’s overhyped like Charizard
And it’s kinda ugly IMO.
I think he is cute. 🙂
I think it’s because of its tongue. It looks odd to me. Oh well, at least it’s not as bad as Emboar haha. Anyway, I’m excited to use Poppmaid too 🙂 I don’t think it deserves the hate it gets.
It definitely does not! I mean, it’s a siren pokemon with a bladed waist – she’s beautiful and deadly.
That’s funny, I actually think the tongue-scarf makes it cute. And agreed on EmBORE.
Poppmaid is my favorite pokemon of all time now. Though, Robbinhoot is still top 5 final evolution; its design is seemless. I can understand the hard choice. Maybe it depends on the rest of your ream. I’m a huge Lurantis fan, so I will definitely be going Poppmaid and Lurantis.
Trump is gonna sue GF for resemblance to him.
Let him sue. Pokemon has enough money to buy his whole family of jokes.
I mean its a funny joke, but I highly doubt he actually would.
He won’t notice until Sun and Moon comes to GO. He probably plays GO.
He actually has said he doesn’t have time for such things.
But he has time to belittle and create nonsensical drama. OKAYYY *sips tea* *rolls eyes* moving on to more relevant topics…
it would be a total shocker if the Yungoos prey resembles Clinton for some reason (idek how it would look like but that would be cool)
that could be its prey, too bad that it would strike back and take yungoos the heck out lol
You gotta wonder if it’s intentional or not.
I feel like it’s intentional. But we’ll know if it was when we see its move set. It’ll have Trump card.
I wonder if ken Sugimori even knows who Trump is.
Please. Even mongooses know who Trump is
Anyone who reads the news knows who that idiot is, but actually making a Pokemon based on him? Hmmm, it’s a kid’s game + it was probably designed ages ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiZRgdj1b0
pretty much sums up Game Freak to those who have leaked the final evolutions.
You posted this a lot.
I thought many have not seen it.
GameFreak tryna make last minute modifications to prove the leaks wrong. “SEE?! Instead of Panthstar having its tail pixel to the left, we moved it to the inner-right-corner-left.”
I am wondering wat Alakazam would look like when he become Fighting type ……I mean he could hold something rather than spoons like Nunchaku or any krate weapons with some muscles.
Make MACHAMP Psychic I say then.
In fact change every gen1 type to a polar opposite …
Dragon Caterpie
Fire Seel
Etc
This is sarcasm 😛
Rock Gengar and Ghost Golem!
Even better, ghost Clefable, fairy Gengar
take my money
Gimme DAT. Nice nod to the shadow tale 🙂
Ground Electric Gyarados :O yuck haha
I want to know wat kind of animal Alakazam’s line based on ??
I think I remember somewhere said it was based off a fox.
But mainly humanoid based off magicians.
So it’s a FoxHuman 😛
For upset litten fans, you can always go for the 2-stage cat pokemon contained with the confirmed leak. (Assuming they did not leak some red herrings) It evolves based on the typing of the parent. Voila, you have yourself a Fire-type cat. (Though, not confirmed if bipedal :p)
Okay, okay, so this might be a text wall…
So, official site, Lurantis is the Totem Pokemon of Lush Forest, in Akala Island.
English trailer, Mallow is in the Lush Forest, saying it’s ‘the trial grounds for me’ so obviously at the end of Mallow’s trail in Lush Forest, Lurantis will be the boss Pokemon and Mallow is the Trial Captain of Akala Island. Obvious is obvious.
I can pinpoint though which island she’s at, though, because of the Japanese trailer.
In the Japanese trailer, she’s first at location 1, then near a farm in location 2. Both of those (specifically location 2, location 1 is a guess for me) are in the island to the right of Melemele. Both are circled with a number next to them. So I’d guess Lush Forest is below the farm or above it, although I can’t say for certain.
There’s a chance I could be wrong, but most likely this is Akala Island.
rf if you can’t see it
Thanks Percy! This makes much more sense now; Pokemon is actually playing out more like an RPG now! 😀
i just searched what Akala may mean and here’s what I found: “a shrub or climber (Rubus macraei) of Hawaii with very large RED or PURPLISH raspberrylike edible fruit”
People also said it meant pink, and there’s a pink mark in the charm you get (there’s a picture somewhere, someone posted it earlier)
Fits with bird keeper tobys theory
Cool!
Ok, but here’s the problem. Kiawe is also clearly on that island, because of the volcano. Lana, from the looks of it, also seems to be on the same island. Here’s why: The Lapras scene is located in an area with multiple waterfalls. The only place this seems to fit is on the 2nd island, near the top-left with all the waterfalls.
It doesn’t make sense to have 3 trial captains on one island. Sophocles is clearly on the 3rd, because he’ll probably be in the observatory. My guess is that Kiawe & Lana are on the 2nd island, with Mallow & Sophocles on the 3rd. Then, there must be additional trial captains, because there would be none for the 1st and 4th islands.
THe thing is, though, there’s no farm or pen in the 3rd island. I looked, I don’t see any there. The only thing with both of those scenes’ locations is in the 2nd island.
Yes, it is troublesome.
Or maybe Kiawe is in the first island, there is a volcano there (Sure it’s not fiery, but whatever)
Plus for Lana, in her scene, there’s a wooden bridge that leads to a island with a sign, I can’t see that anywhere so it could be on the last island for all we know.
I definitely think this is Akala Island. I may have a chance it’s wrong, but I put my bet on it.
I know there’s no farm. I believe that Mallow will appear on the 2nd island, but her trial will be on the 3rd.
Can you show me this scene with the wooden bridge? I looked in both trailers and both sites and can’t seem to find it.
Who knows, really? I guess we’ll have to wait until CoroCoro, which will probably reveal another island’s name!
It’s in the Japanese trailer, when she shows up. It’s not so much a bridge, more so a wooden plank. 1:17 until it moves on to Sophocles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaav6J6XzFs
And yeah, hopefully, I just have a gut feeling that’s where she’ll be. I dunno why she’d appear early only for her trial to be later on a different island, unless the others do so too.
That could be this:
Isn’t that where the water type captain is though?
That’s what I’m saying 😛
Oh ok
I guess, but it looks like it reaches to the other side in the clip, that it is connected, like a bridge.
It’s not the best clip. We’ll just have to wait until we get info
The fire dude has a marowak..hinting at another alola form?
Almost certainly the case imo.
http://fav.me/da9cryu
Personally I’m glad these are real. I really didn’t like any of the unova and Kalos evolutions apart from serperior. We’ve had lots of masculine starter Pokemon so I don’t see why a feminine one is such a shock, I love popplio 3. Also really like rowletts final, favourite grass final so far.
Poké Rides are the HM replacements, calling it now.
With that Sharpedo smashing that hard rock like nothing, I’m hoping we travel to a not so distant region that everyones been dying for it to be incorporated and tie some loose ends of its rushed story… like…*cough*Kalos*cough*
EDIT: as in surf there by breaking pbjects we would normally otherwise be unable to break
Isn’t it cute smashing rocks?
Yes. Hard rocks. You always need an adjective. 😛
He loves a good hard rock 😉
For a minute I thought the R in rock was a C
That’s the point ahah :p
Thats basically what happens to me when I look at Hala
i read that wrong omg
Haha that’s the point :p
*facepalm* you people
Not my fault I’m thirsty.
:O 😉
Soooo cute.
Is that mean fire type Marowak confirmed??? http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470061692097.png
Basically
Fire/ground would be cool
Ground/Fire
Water fairy ! 😉
No
Ah hun I’m only joking with you :*
Well I don’t like it
Soz hunni !
The damage is already done
Bby you need me. We are 2 of a kind.
Your the Ashley to my Mary Kate 😉
Gross and you’re just as bad as Chico
Chico and me are also like this.
He is the Kenan to my Kel
The wind beneath my barley 😉
i imagined Alolan Marowak to have a more tribal-ish skull head
With horns and face paint that is made from a special tar it finds
It wips up a spark from its bone and ignites its club and helmet
Love you x
I am best designer
exactly!
I imagine him by this way actually.
Seeing as they also mention traditional dances, I’m guessing It’s a fire dancer inspired variation of Marowak :S
Kingdom Key Exeggutor edition
Captain Mallow is an expert with Grass-type Pokémon. She loves cooking, but it seems that sometimes her taste is a bit particular…
That’s Mallow’s description from the website by the way
… Particular taste? She likes Pokemon meat?!
Or she’s vegan and eats her own Pokemon’s flowers
This is so much info help I love it but don’t at the same time… I don’t know how to digest this. I mean, I find the no gym leaders thing a little puzzling but we’ll see
11 more days until our next information overload!!!!
WAIT WHAT
I DID NOT KNOW OF THIS
Corocoro
Serebii confirmed new info coming in 11 days
FROM THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE
Yeah, I’m glad it’s not a long wait!
btw, when’s corocoro? i heard its earlier this month?
Officially comes out the 15th of each month, but leaks a few days earlier. The news we will be receiving on the 12th might cover what’s to be in CoroCoro for both Japanese and international fans.
…of two Pokemon
I sure hope Serena appears in the Gen 7 anime
thank god im not the only one but this is too farfetched to happen
No
Same if Misty truly never does return Serena is next in line.
I just want to see what they do with Iris, because the rule is there’s always the previous traveling companion minisode or something
Iris can go die in a hole. Was never a fan of her and her bullshit
At least she wasn’t some girly girl, she had spunk and didn’t take crap from nobody
Why do I always get the wackados on showdown http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/monotype-409194495
Dat shiny Breloom though <3
It died like a bitch
Honestly more and more keep running when I win didn’t matter, would’ve won no matter what that Lucario could do
Everything was weak to ground bar heracross. That guy was an idiot. And he had an awful team.
Well to be fair Cobalion and Terrakion are evil since of Close Combat Spam since usually scarfed
But all that mattered is I shut them up
Dat Aerial Ace! Didn’t see that one coming! Nice coverage
I would actually love to see Farfetched get a Alolan variant! It is so often overlooked and a variant with another typing could really give it the boost it needs
Farfetch is not overloooked imo. He’s like a star in his own right along with Dunsparce. I think of it like this; he’s like a B-list star tryna become A-list like Demi Lovato. Has some hits, but mostly misses.
I. love. demi.
But yeah tbh I hope dunsparce gets one too, that would be sick
Me too. But we failed her Confident era as fans. Cool for the Summer and Confident should have smashed the charts, but they only did moderately. Her management team needs to be fired. I want HWGA with some Unbroken Demi back! Although Body Say is a bop.
She has near 40 million Twitter followers…
Selena has over 80 million Instagram followers, her album has yet to sell over 800k. Numbers aren’t everything.
But I am a numbers/data guy so… I’m kind if contradicting myself here. Oh well O///O
My ex loves selena, they have the same bday, but nowadays I think she’s a bit off. Cant totally dislike her though, as my he always had good taste
Selena is doing much better than Demi sales wise as her management and marketing team know what they’re doing; all of her singles off Revival have 100+ million streams, produced 3 top 10 songs, all are certified Gold – 2x Platinum, and her album is certified Gold. Additionally, she’s on a sold-out tour.
Demi’s album is certified Gold, Confident peaked at #21 and is now certified Platinum, Cool for the Summer peaked at #11 and is now certified Platinum, and Stone Cold did not chart at all and is almost certified Gold. She has 2 songs with 100+ million streams, and is on a semi-soldout tour. The interest is there, the backup is not. Her management team needs to do better promotions and marketing.
Guys, guys…I think we can all agree Kelly Clarkson is the greatest pop star of all time
I am looking forward to facing Hala. Hala is my spirit animal. Lol. He finally has made me accept that after all these Island Trials you go to the Grand Trial. Perhaps the Grand Trial will sorta be a regular Gym puzzle then you face Hala and the other Kakunas (image present, refresh if can’t see).
Hala I want to do things to. Naughty things.
Sure listen your on the wrong site for that 😉
Those who want to se Serena join Ash on his Gen 7 adventure keep your fingers crossed.
I will always hate the Litten final evo I hope that the leak saying there may be a different evo is true and it is actually good instead of trash. Either way while I am ok with most of this stuff I will say that it doesn’t feel like a real Pokemon game. I hope when they do gen 8 if they do gen 8 that it is a return to the norm.
the company are already beginning work on Gen 8, even as we speak.
The company always produce a 3 year long plan to create the next gen, even when the newest gen is about to be launched
That isn’t confirmed and isn’t something we know or can count on. Nothing is set in stone. The only reason I am worried about the future of the series is because Nintendo’s future is uncertain. And Pokemon only does main games on handhelds and there is still nothing saying the NX is officially a handheld and the only statement we have from them is saying it is a home console so yah… No way they make another on 3DS especially since it will be old and outdated by then. And even if the NX isn’t a handheld Nintendo and everybody else will have moved on so yah.
well have you seen how Pokemon Go is doing? Even if Nintendo dies out, they can still survive on mobile devices on the go.
As for what I have said about Gen 8, how can you say they are not at work, if they haven’t put in the tiki statue item as a easter egg in X and Y, or why the creators went to France for not just for inspiration for the first Pokemon Black and White movie. Or why a few next gen pokemon in the anime, like Gen 2 in Gen 1, Gen 3 in Gen 2, and Gen 4 in Gen 3 have made themselves known to us.
I don’t think a main Pokemon game could really do well on mobile… but who knows… maybe something could work out. I probably wouldn’t play it though.
All I meant was it isn’t confirmed that they are and therefore we can’t say with certainty that they are indeed working on gen 8 yet even if it is very likely they have at least started thinking about it. Nothing is set in stone.
well for a business making company, you have to know and understand of how it works. They don’t create Pokemon just by snapping your fingers, these things take time. A LONG time.
Sure. I never disputed that. I am just saying we as outsiders can’t say for 100% sure.
well it’s just like downloading at the moment. Right now, like our understanding, Gen 6 in the main office might be 5-10% done.
Hmm? I am not sure I understand what you mean. Also do you mean gen 8 not 6. 6 way X/Y/OR/AS and Sun/Moon is gen 7.
nope
what I meant is like our knowing/ Game Freak’s work on Gen 8, is so far 5-10% done.
Just think of this process like updating your computer. It takes a longtime, and that may include the remake of Black and White.
…I still don’t really understand haha.
anyway its time to go. gahd i hate time zones. cant keep up with the comments. today was a blast :))))) night night~
Night hunzo !
I am a bit confused as to how dance ability works. Can you switch into a dance, and then get to immediately use that move in that same turn? Basically you can move twice if stats and timing are right?
Yes. It says any Pokemon on the field… double battles about to get hectic with all these new abilities and Pokemon!
Thanks. Seem like it would be crazy with two of those birds out there on the switch. I wonder if people will use dance moves less? (Some sets it’s sort of a saving grace.)
No problem! 😀
Ughhhhhhhh spamming Quiver Dance……or Swords Dance…….
Ughhhhhhhhhh all the stupid Fiery Dances
Fiery dance ftw! >:)
I wish to see her in a pink or red sundress and with new Pokemon on her team.
it’s been a while since I’ve been this excited for a pokemon game >< !!
pokemon tiger litten evolution
Can i ask why the Machoke has a red circle around it on the pic above?
Alolan Ninetails is beautiful
And Exeggutor is hilarious. Freaking Dragon type.
Team so far:
Rowlet
Bewear
Vikavolt
Mimikyu
Alola Ninetails
(rotating) Team so far:
Litten
grubbin – vikavolt
Fomantis – Lurantis
Pikipek
drampa/ rockruff
water growlithe/ Wimpod
I know there was a huge post down there, but I missed it so here’s my potential teams! (mostly just maybes since not sure who I want where plus other future Pokemon etc.)
Sun –
Rowlet
Rockruff
Wimpod
Moon –
Litten
Grubbin
Fomantis
Some maybes (either due to waiting for other Pokemon and/or evos and/or other reasons) –
Pikipek
Nekkoala
Cutiefly
Drampa
Yungoos
Salandit
Komala
Mimikyu
Mudbray
Alolan Vulpix
She is an expert with Grass-type Pokémon but she is hot …is that due to sitting down close to Panthster ( Litten final evo). http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470064514404.png
i just don’t believe that name
Panther and Gangster just not what this Pokemon is
it’s Fire and Dark, plus it’s inspired by ‘Tiger Mask’
U said that more than 100 time ……Panthster actually is (Panther+ miss spelling of Prankster)……u know how real tiger is strong and trick so that fit the concept perfectly.
like Robinroot is a miss spelling for Robin Hood
<<Galemcaedus, new name. Idk why, it just popped up my head.
Got a new name, idk why it just popped up my head.
because this is Pokemon’s 20th Anniversary, it is also Diamond and Pearl’s 10th Anniversary, meaning that Game Freak could be doing a remake of Diamond and Pearl, seeing that they’re going to throw hints of Sinnoh into Alola like Cynthia and Rotom. But I’m just hoping that they’re going to release it onto the Nintendo NX, rather than on the 3DS considering that you can play DS Pokemon games like Diamond and Pearl on it.Let’s just hope and prey that they don’t do another Twilight Princess HD, because although it is for the Wii U, you can actually get and play the Wii version on it.
No, Pokemon games shouldn’t be on console, end of
NX may be a hybrid.
As much as I dislike Litten’s and Popplio’s final evolutions, I love Rowlet’s.
And the idea of forming the league was jarring at first, but now I’m hoping this is the case. Especially if we return to Kalos and collect the badges there.
Sun and Moon are the most innovative games in the series yet. I hope Gen VIII follows in it’s footsteps.
with the company already discussing and are hard at work thinking about it, the possibility is there.
Coincidence… I think not. Refresh.
Coincidence… I think not. https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13912758_157986244608944_4598442663314874091_n.jpg?oh=26f0668752b231d73e059be9d39762a9&oe=58279AE6
when was this, Gen 1? Then they’ve been working bits for this since the very beginning.
That head looks so strange… I didn’t get a good look at it before!
About the Pokemon League, Kahunas and Trial Masters are different right? If so I can see them being the “leaders” or Alola since their should be 4 Trials and 4 Kahunas.
But I’m loving all this new stuff! The Totem Pokemon seem really cool and look like Boss battles with the calling of allies. I hope more Pokemon get Alola forms. This is so exciting!!
My question is where is this other inof coming from? About all the other Alolan forms, furfou styles, and the snowman line?
Snowman Snorlax incoming
http://abload.de/img/snowman_snorlaxdabed.png
and a snowman Munchlax to boot!
they cant make every gen 1 pokemon ice 😉
No, but they can make every gen 1 pokemon part fairy and dragon 😀
Snowshrew already ruined that dream :,(
In more ways than one. Snowslash is actually the perfect anti-fairy and anti-dragon. Ice to crush dragon, steel to crush fairy.
Maybe we’ll get crystal Onix?
Alolan Onix
POOR FLOPpilo fans. Now they’re stuck with a feminine looking pokemon that has a 87.5% male ratio I knew that thing was going to be a fail
i will reset until i have a female popplio lol, did the same with delphox back then
That’s what I’ll do.
Careful there. There was a ton of heat a few days ago about this, watch what you say.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h164/ybfchic/AUGUST%202014/tumblr_n5kk104rjs1ql5yr7o1_500.gif (rf)
Alright but if you keep going don’t say I didn’t warn you. . .
All I gotta say is, it’s not too big of a deal to SR for a female or just ignore it and move on with a male one.
I don’t see why this is a problem, considering we can get female Mr. Mimes, male Gardevoirs, Lopunnies, and Gothitelles.
Up till now the starter pokemon have been gender neutral. cute enough to appeal to the female base. While cool enough to appeal to the male base. they even stated that. this is going to turn a lot of people off
I mean, I don’t necessarily think this way, but a lot of people thought Delphox was really feminine and that having a male Delphox was weird.
Sure, it’s designed more gender neutral, but it still looks more feminine/more gendered than the other two starters.
so much wrong in just one comment… as a female yourself (as i assume from your avi) I expected more from you, but sadly it looks like you need to grow up a lot
there’s nothing too wrong with what she wrote. some people don’t like feminine looking pokemon, some don’t like masculine looking pokemon. some like neutral, everyone has a taste. I prefer masculine looking pokes, no biggy, if i get the water, it has to be female like my gardevoir, simple.
look I’m not getting into this with you, but yeah there is something wrong with her comment. But if you cant see that, I really don’t care, now bye
cool, you wanted to get offended by her comment and you did, congrats
oh. my. god.
Why do people make an issue out of this? Females are naturally more feminine looking and males masculine (talking about their looks). Female machokes are weird, male lopunnies are weird. Putting this gender issue apart it just doesn’t fit! Political correctness has a limit. Either the pokemon should look more neutral or if they look more like a female/male then they should be 100% female/male (like chansey).
This is not intended to be aggressive, I just like numbering
1) They’re massively overhauling features within the games this gen. I think reseting the gender ratio is likely.
2) They each may have male/female forms as a leak has suggested
3) Not really a big deal. It maybe be feminine but it’s not a bad design.
I personally don’t mind, since I love the Fairy type. I see absolutely no problem with that,.
get a female and call it a day
Gender and Sexual Attributes are very different. You’re conflating the two.
Looks like Alolan Exeggutor is the Mega Slowbro of this gen..
It’s hilarious but I love it. XD
It’s a bit much for me haha. This will go in the ridiculous design pile along with mega manectric and slowbro lol
THIS IS THE CRAZIEST STUFF EVER
I still cannot believe this (sorry I was gone for awhile this morning)
I know this is old news probably but Mallow and Kaiwe appear on the same Island, indicating there may be more than one Trial Captain for one Island. :O
Kudos to PLDH.net for pointing this out!
*HYPE INTENSIFIES*
I knew that island to the right of Melemele was most likely Akala 😀
I love how in the Japanese trailer, they show you much more. Miltank appears in the farm area on that Island along with Tauros. And I know this off subject, but this whole Starter debate thing I try not to put my nose into. I personally think Rowlet’s and Popplio’s, minus Litten’s which had so much potential. I’m picking Popplio personally and I don’t care how many manly points I lose. But if we get this weird “middle evolution branch” as indicated by the sheets, then maybe that will make some more people happy. I don’t have much stock in the second leak as I do in the Chinese leak at the moment, the latter Chinese leak of which has been 100% confirmed.
WAIT SERIOUSLY HYYYYYYYYYPE
Yeah. The Japanese trailer showed her and the shirtless guy on the same island. I was pretty pumped when I saw that! It’s possible there could be more than just 4 Trial Captains.
You might actually be right. The volcano, farm, and forest are on one island. rf.
Could this make AZ’s Floette, an Alolan Floette
Possibly, but unlikely, as the flower is also seen in hoenn
Updating the Alola Dex, brb with that.
I’m praying to Arceus that these Starters have gender differences. I can’t handle the Litten evo. I will complain about it for the rest of my life and you guys will have to suffer through it
If Kween litten evolves into that low T cell count roid head I will NOT be happy. Looks like i’m going with FOULet or just poketransfer a snivy over kii
Aw c’mon, Rowlet isn’t so bad. Owls are pretty cool
I guess. But I really wanted a badass BIPEDIAL tiger pokemon.
Do you mean quadruped
What about Triped
Well that would be disturbing
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN yes. oh well. Anyways which pokemon are you feeling
1) LITteen
2)PikiGOD
3) zikavolt
and I Kinda like the praying mantis pokemon but the mantis it’s based on is a bug that evolved to resemble a orchard. so I don’t understand why it’s not bug
If these evolutions are the only choices, I’ll be going with Rowlet and having Vikavolt for sure. I also really like that Mantis and am bothered by its grass typing. Makes little sense.
I still think it’s a plant imitating the bug, it’s a really cool backwards concept that I feel is GF’s style.
I said that as well. The plant is mimicing the mantis to avoid and scare predators.
Exactly, especially cause it looks more plant than bug to me. Plus, Fomantis’ info states all that matters is photosynthesis. Sure, if it was Bug/Grass, it could still work, but there’s very little bugs that can photosynthesize.
That’s just such a strange concept to me though. I wouldn’t mind if it was a creature they created but since they’re flipping what an actual insect does, I don’t like the idea as much. At least the design is good.
Oh hey Ultron, fancy seeing you somewhere that’s not Hypable! haha. I agree though. I just don’t like that Litten evolution. And the Popplio evolution is kind of feminine, which I can see a lot of people not being into. I’m fine with that, I just hate the clown aspect.
Oh hey! I frequent here a lot! The Litten one is my least favorite for sure. The design seems uninspired and too similar to past fire starters in terms of concept. The Popplio one isn’t bad, it’s just kind of strange to me. The Rowlet one is pretty great though. I might have to get a female one and name it Rowling or Jo 🙂
I’m definitely hoping these are fake. The Litten one is an atrocity. And it’s probably fire/fighting, which is way over done. I do like the Rowlet one, so I wish it would be real. I just really wanted a good Popplio evolution because when I saw the starters, Popplio stood out to me the most. But if this one is real, I’m going with Rowlet. That’s a cute idea for a nickname.
They’re pretty much confirmed given the new female character in the art :/ I’m holding out for gender differences.
I’m sure that there is another set of evolutions that has to do with the starters’ secret. There’s a rumor that there may be Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting final evolutions alongside the leaked ones. Perhaps this will utilize the day/night cycle in a way.
Legit. That’s an interesting way to think of it. Maybe, all of these evos occur at night; while the Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting occur during the day.
That would be amazing. We’ve never had split evolution starters before, so it would be a first!
I think this would be cool. These games are really switching things up. Hopefully for the best, although I don’t really care for the Z moves.
I believe I’ve might have figured out how Poke Ride will ultimately work. Your trainer will recieve a device, which will allow you to summon rideable Pokemon. This device essentially acts as a PC; it stores and holds rideable Pokemon. These Pokemon are then transferred to the Ride Ball (not the official name), then your able to use them on the overworld. These rideable Pokemon will also be used in trials as Stoutland assists you in finding the ingredients for Mallow and Lapras helps you find the raging Pokemon for Lana. I hope my description is rather accurate. As we said numerous times, this might completely replace HMs.
I think it’s more of a loaner situation. Like the ball doesn’t function like a normal Poke Ball in that there is no ownership of the Pokemon. You Probably meet the “Trainer” of these rideable Pokemon and he loans them to you for your journey. Think Battle Factory Pokemon style, just a temporary arrangement :S
Agreed and the same thought I had as soon as I saw that weird white Pokeball and Green Device. No more HMs!
I do hope that eventually in the game we’ll be able to ride our own though. It’d make it more special to me 🙂
But I like HMs.
I don’t like them being unforgettable and taking up move slots, but I like the abilities.
Maybe if they tweaked HMs so they’re more like Z-moves. The pokemon doesn’t “know” the move, it can use the moves if it’s compatible and in proximity to a special stone (possibly embedded in gym badges). So as long as you have at least one water type, surf, dive, waterfall and whirlpool are go at all times.
But Magikarp.
‘water type’ is a generalisation. Obviously that’s discounting Magikarp and including Lugia, Azurill etc.
The point is you can still use HMs if you have compatible pokemon without the pokemon having to actually know them, hence you don’t need to designate HM slaves, but you would need compatible pokemon in your party. In a way that would make it tie up with the anime better as well since it would explain how people are able to just ride their water pokemon without the pokemon needing to know surf.
#popplioisoverparty
Bashing it won’t do you or anybody any good. It is what it is.
Have we really gotten to this level? If you don’t like the Pokemon, just don’t use it.
Poppilo is the best starter tho
http://gif.norori.com/i/0000000000iri.gif (rf)
I happen to like Popplio, so I respectfully decline your invitation to this party.
nnnn https://s31.postimg.org/xxfz5ecu3/image.jpg (rf)
Omg this is perfect.
I found a funny picture:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANY POKEMON CAN USE Z MOVES AS LONG AS IT KNOWS THE TYPE OF MOVE
That’s amazing! I’m personally in love with this 5th move concept. But I won’t enjoy it as much if the game doesn’t have a steep level curve. Otherwise it will make sweeping trainers even easier :/
It’s not a fifth move, it’s once per battle and only if you have that type
It would just be a stronger version
Well that can be helpful for Pokemon who can’t mega evolve. I don’t think that’s a bad thing :p
If anything, trainers may be prompted to choose Z-Moves or Mega Evolution. Both would be a little overkill.
Yeah.
A Mega Evolution could be rekted by a Z-Move. Also, Mega Pokemon cannot use Z-Moves and I’m quite sure you have to pick either using a Z-Move or Mega Evolving your Pokemon. This would balance the concepts.
Assuming both concepts are in the game, I wonder how it will be handled from an aesthetic standpoint. Will the bracelet serve both purposes or will we need to use an alternative to a Mega Ring (pendant, for example) to achieve Mega Evolution?
Actually, there is a circular hole on the bottom of the Z-Ring. I’m assuming the Key Stone will reside there. Someone pointed this out a while back.
Maybe you can choose to equip a key stone instead of a Z Chrystal or whatever.
You didn’t know that? It says it on the official site. This will mix up competitive play and the uses of Z-Moves.
That means people will just sacrifice a move slot just to take advantage of a Z-Move
Actually I think that, that may be what the possible “fifth” move slot is for. 🙂
Z move is fifth move confirmed in the video…
Once just freaking once
yeah I know that. That’s what I just said. 🙂
There is no stupid fifth move
Only if you got the Z-Crystal and you have a move of the same type, it’s just a dang supercharged version
Only once per battle
The “fifth slot” will likely tell you what Z-Move you could use.
There is no fifth slot, that’s where the held item would be
Yes, I saw that myself, thank you very much! I have watched the commercials about 10 times now.
But obviously it IS a fifth move slot, its just one that you have access to AFTER you get the silly crystal thing.
And I don’t believe that it would go over another move, it is a move in itself.
I hope the plot doesn’t revolve around Z moves. Just wanted to get that out there.
I agree. I really hope it ties into Zygarde and Kalos somehow. It’s been far too long since we’ve had a good postgame!
I doubt it. Hala gives it to either after defeating him or after the festival battle with Hau. I don’t think this game is going to go lore crazy like X/Y.
X/Y had so much potential with lore. I’d hate to see it go to waste if we don’t explore the region in S/M.
Hey, let’s be happy that those Z Stones don’t achieve some sort of ridiculous fusion as many were worried about.
I would have preferred if they weren’t just giving new forms to Gen 1 pokemon. Gen 1 gets so much love and exposure as it is and there is a lot of potential outside of it to explore.
Exactly. We are celebrating 20 years of Pokemon as a whole, not red and blue’s 20th birthday.
Well I quite love this idea, and had the same idea several years ago already. 😀 (And apparently I am not the only one with the same idea.)
We could only hope. It is the 20th Anniversary. Based on the rumours, I think it’s just Generation 1, but a boy can dream! I do love the concept of Alolan Pokemon. I kinda wish they did this with Mega Evos instead of creating Mega Evolution. I like it that much.
Adaptation is a way better concept. Mega evolution, while I think it’s cool, feels forced, while Pokemon adaptation feels natural.
Image having a Dragon/Fire Kalosian Charmander. The concept is natural and outstandingly interesting.
well fingers crossed the old megas might return as forms in this game. Its seeming less and less likely with every reveal that megas will be returning
birthday novemaber.17.2016
pokemon sun and moon novemaber.18.2016
Lol my birthday is November 20th.
So, your parents won’t be buying it for you? That’s sad..
Ladies and gentlemen, here is your updated Alola dex based on trailer Pokemon:
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Alola Dex
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New Pokemon
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Rowlet
Litten
Popplio
Rockruff
Komala
Pikipek
Yungoos
Gumshoos
Grubbin
Charjabug
Vikavolt
Drampa
Bruxish
Cutiefly
Togedemaru
Salandit
Bewear
Mimikyu
Wimpod
Bounsweet
Comfey
Mudbray
Mudsdale
Fomantis
Lurantis
Minior
Tapu Koko
Solgaleo
Lunaala
Magearna
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Old Pokemon
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Bagon
Shelgon
Salamence
Gastly
Haunter
Gengar
Beldum
Metang
Metagross
Gible
Gabite
Garchomp
Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
Caterpie
Metapod
Butterfree
Ledyba
Ledian
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Flareon
Umbreon
Espeon
Glaceon
Leafeon
Sylveon
Pancham
Pangoro
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Spearow
Fearow
Growlithe
Arcanine
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Skarmory
Lillipup
Herdier
Stoutland
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Politoed
Miltank
Tauros
Lapras
Carvahna
Sharpedo
Kangaskhan
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Slowking
Vulpix
Ninetales
Exeggcute
Exeggutor
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Delibird
Surskit
Masquerain
Nosepass
Probopass
Cubone
Marowak
Phantump
Trevenant
Riolu
Lucario
Mankey
Primape
Psyduck
Golduck
Roggenrolla
Boldore
Gigalith
Archen
Archeops
Bonsly
Sudowudo
Rufflet
Braviary
Goomy
Sligoo
Goodra
Grand total of 125!
Couldn’t Zubat be absent for one generation?….
No, an eternity in any cave
You’ll never escape the Zubats . . . Well, unless you buy repelsz
I need my regional Crobat, sorry.
Okay, so we’ve got 30 new ones, but some of them are going to evolve (Rockruff and the starters and probably Wimpod too).
Ughhhhh I fear these Z-Moves are already going to be a pain in the butt
Like anything knowing any type of move could easily abuse the Z-Crystal
Like if a Ice Type has Rain Dance while holding a Water Z-Crystal it will be allowed to utilize Hydro Vortex
They should’ve just stuck with Type Super Move
And if they let Hidden Power bypass the whole thing….ughhhhhh
At least you don’t have to worry about held items. It’s something new. It will be capitalized upon in competitive play! You could take out an annoying attacker or wall with a Z-Move.
If the Z means nothing it’ll bother me to no end . . .
Let’s be real here. It probably means nothing accept looking cool!
Or subjugate me to a series of Bloom Dooms
Ughhhh and the freaking Legends can use them too
Alola forme Pikachu looks so good
I had so much hope for Littens evolution, but they ruined it, it looks like a villain from those old half animal/half human cartoon characters…….everything else looks amazing though.
As far as worries go, the Japanese trailer showcases the player character, Hau, and Lillie confronted by Hala. What could this mean for our rivals/companions this generation? Hopefully we won’t be having rivals along the lines of X/Y.
They will likely travel to the same islands as you and you’ll see them from time to time. I hope each of them have a story arc!
You guys do understand that the Starters and Rockruff or whatever still have their secret right? It can’t just be gender different final evos because if so.. that wouldn’t be special for Rocruff, a seemingly normal pokemon. And, Every pokemon can use Z moves..
Ash greninja is showing up so I believe sync is still intact
Chinese rumour said that there is no Synchro Evolution and the bracelet has already be explained. I’m guessing their secret is evolutionary differences based on day and night.
The same person?
Yes. It’s in the article. Ash-Greninja is likely an event Pokemon; similar to AZ’s Floette.
Oh ok, but I don’t think it’s night n day evo either.. that’s already been done
or the notched ear pichu
F*ck ash Greninja & synchro evolution. Not gonna happen.
I just hope there’s an Evil Team. Already bad enough Gym Leaders are removed. Has it been confirmed Trial Captains are not able to be battled? I heard from a source you can’t battle them. But nothing in the official material says that. In fact, in one bio, it even lists a Pokemon they have.
It has not been confirmed.
Ah, good. So, technically, in their own ways they can be Leaders.
Why would they specialise in a type if you can’t battle them :/ I think I read that the trials are not limited to battles, so maybe there are battles but other stuff too
Ah yes, that’s correct! Thanks for raising up my hopes! 🙂
It’s not be confirmed. All we know is that there are different trials, Totem Pokemon at the end, then you fight the known Kahuna.
My question is (for competitive battles), can you bring both forms of old Pokemon? or will they still count as same species?
Ughhhhhhhhh I really hope they’re still classified as the same
Still waiting on the Pink Rhyhorn to become a reality.
That’s only because of pinkan berries
Its gonna be just like how Wormadam is handled – which i don’t know for certain because Wormadam is never used competitively, but Im pretty certain theyre classified as different Pokemon (or at least you can bring multiple different forms to a match)
No, Wormadan is the same species. Good example, mate.
Yes! You cannot obtain the original forms in S/M, but you can transfer them from X/Y/OR/AS or VC games. They are the same species, hence why it’s the Alolan Form. I don’t think they reclassed the Pokemon as they kept their names.
At least I won’t see two sets of Ninetales on the same team
why not? I plan on using them both at some point in a double battle, same with both sandslashes
That’s just bull, you better have some fire counter
I will singe both of them
…. why would I need a fire counter on both of them? one of them is a freaking fire type…
And has (potentially) Flash Fire….
This makes the least sense to me. These Pokemon are supposed have ‘evolved’ into these new ‘species’ because of the environment/climate they moved to. Why on earth would they only work for Pokemon you transfer over….makes no sense at all
I think you misread by comment. Alolan Pokemon are from Alola. You can only get their original forms from X/Y/OR/AS/B/W/W2/B2 and the VC Games with Pokemon Bank.
Oh. Sorry my bad, I’ve just been hearing from other sources that that is how they will work and thought you were saying the same thing. It just didn’t make much sense to me.
Remember, evolving doesn’t necessarily mean being a new species. There are other factors to rake in as well. Although, I change from fire to ice is extremely physiologically drastic. One could argue as it being a subspecies as the possibility of a poison type Ninetales is possible in some other unknown region due to its population’s own adaptation. The root species would be Fire type.
Conclusion: most likely the same species, but analogous physiology and anatomy to the root species.
Hmmm…from what I know of biology. A single species separated geographically will eventually (over millions of years) ‘evolve’ into two separate species, each adapted to its own environment. The original species technically becomes extinct. Of course this is a very simple explanation, I’m not a biologist by any means, so my understanding may be incomplete.
No, you’re also correct, but we haven’t had millions of years to answer this question. I love that you brought that up, actually. I’ve studied and research bacteria, fungus, viruses, and parasites my whole school life and totally skipped macro-evolution.
The original doesn’t necessarily become extinct, but it can. You know, I think I’m going to discredit my answer because, as a scientist, I know when I’m wrong. I will say that IceTales is most likely a new species, due to environmental adaptation, that may have been introduced to Alola from Kanto.
This is somewhat true, due to Geographic Isolation, which is a form of Reproductive Isolation. For organisms to be of the same species, they must be able to reproduce and produce fertile offspring, and share a gene pool. Over time, geographically isolated members of one original population may encounter gene pool variations*, thus causing the original species to diverge into two separate ones.
*Changes in the allele frequency. The environment doesn’t cause members of a species to forcibly change — it provides beneficial circumstances for members with certain traits. Over time, these traits are more likely to be inherited as those without them die out [This is natural selection]. Because two different environments favor different adaptations, the allele frequencies in both populations change, but different traits are favored. This kind of variation, which produces two different species, is called Disruptive Selection.
Keep in mind that this is all kind of hazy to me, and that Evolution was my weakest subject in Biology 😛
Yeh, Biology was never my best subject, more of Chemist myself. But doesn’t stop me from being really intrigued by this.
Like how they explained intense sunlight causing Exegutor to develop like that. It’s interesting, and I hope to see it with more Pokemon.
you just cant catch them naturally in alola because they are not available, but if you say transfer over a fire vulpix you can breed it in game to get another fire vulpix, its not going to come out an ice one
Yeh my bad, I read the comment wrong,
they’re like the rotom forms, even though each of them are different typing for each appliance only one form is allowed.
ok think of it this way as some people seem utterly confused by the forms (which i don’t get but still) its like shellos only they span games and not just location in on region, so you have ice ninetales in alola and fire everywhere else, they are the same pokemon but different because of where they live, so its not going to change a normal vulpix to an ice one, they are like shellos
Well, that’s not exactly true.. If you read the Pokemon Page for Sandslash, it states that it is slower than the ground version, so they will have different status, not only visual.. as well as different typing and abilities. Basically, different Pokemon.
ok that doesn’t really make my statement false though… think meowstic, they have different stats per form, and also think the Nidoqueen/king, they are kinda in the same boat as the variants, technically the same pokemon but different, thats what I’m trying to get at here, they are separate but also the same
Nidoking and Queen are different species.
Anyway, if you said Wormadam..
yes, but technically they are the same as well, just like shellos, the only difference is that shellos share a pokedex entry while the nidos come too early for that, but the ice/fire vulpixs will be separate species in a way as well, but each stemming from the original and I imagine they will share a pokedex entry but it they are still different pokemon, but also the same, do you understand what I’m saying?
Gonna have to wait and see.. my money is on “no”.
Biologically they should be different species.
Any word on if there’s more Pokémon you can surf on with Poké Ride, other than Lapras and Sharpedo? Like Empoleon perhaps?
I want to Ride on an Empoleon ;-;
Nope. Hopefully there will be more though.
Chinese Rumor is 100% confirmed. The leaker of that leak said you can ride on “almost any Pokemon”.
This wouldn’t surprise me as all Pokémon are scaled to size. Still, I think it’s restricted by certain Pokemon.
Yeah. Now that I think about you’re right. Knowing Game Freak, they would not have the time to program 600+ Pokemon with unique animations in just a few years of development. Seems unlikely.
I don’t believe it’s 100%
I thought it was. Maybe I’m mistaken…
Saying everything is 100% confirmed is dangerous
Anyone will go looking for leaks and believe that they’re real
Some could be real and the assholes just will try to piggyback on a thread and sound real
Soon everything meshes together like slimey crusty gears and then nobody knows what’s what
Yeah no leaks are ever 100% confirmed.
He got Ninetails type wrong. He said Fire/Fairy, when it was Ice/Fairy. I always see rumours as a small guideline for official info.
That’s another leaker, isn’t it? Or is it the same one?
It’s the same Chinese leaker!
Oh, okay. Gosh, this is all so confusing. Lol. So, this image here below (refresh if can’t see) is someone recaping Chinese leaker guy:
Yup! It’s up on the article as well.
Ah, thank you for the clarification!
But how come some of the points stated in that picture I showed you aren’t in the article?
Do you know where I can read that statement? Not doubting you or anything, just want to give it a read myself lol
I know what you mean. No offense taken. And it’s in an older article somewhere on the site that stated the Chinese rumor when it came out. This article is just a recap. I wish I could link you. I’m sorry.
Oh it’s ok! Thanks a bunch!
No problem. Again, wish I could be of more help.
Lol
Robinroot = Robin Hood
Panthster = Prankster
Entermaid = Entrance
The names do sum up their very personalities for the final evolutions.
Those names are from a fake leak though.
Mallow is in the leaks, so its not sure at all that they’re fake.
Yes, not all leaks are the same leak. The names came from a leak that was proven wrong.
Even so, the description for Copybara does seem to fit this leak. Along with the Dolphin Pokemon described by the Chinese leak.
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes2.jpg
And these were from a reliable source who gave us leaks from CoroCoro. Not to mention they’ve also given us the leak for Rowlet’s mid evolution.
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes3.jpg
that bird thing has been circulating the internet for generations now, its been throughly confirmed as fake
http://shironakarius.deviantart.com/art/Rowlet-s-Mid-Evolution-623043860
found the mid evolution full body leaked around the net and compared it with it’s final evolution.
I don’t think you understood what I said, that “middle rowlet” evolution is 100% confirmed fake, we saw pictures of it with other fake pokemon leaks and such several times back in xy as a different pokemon and I think it even was around a bit for B/W, so its not part of the rowlet family
I suppose your right.
Every leak says there will be a dolphin Pokemon, because people want it, that proves nothing.
That “rowlet mid evolution” is a fakemon from before the starters were shown…
What the hell are these names?
Rowlet final evo –> Arrowl
Owlinhoot, Owlinroot, Arrowlroot, Arrowhoot. Whatever name, we’ll find out soon enough.
I like Robbinhoot.
But I could see something like Fowliage too.
still it’s better than those lazy names for the finals and mid evolutions made by one who is known for that fake Pokemon Embear.
I don’t believe in Panthster
In the original thread it said Panther and Gangster it’s a freaking Tiger Wrestler
I hope Alakazam doesn’t have a variation. Seems like it getting the Mega evolution along with something new is overkill.
Megas are out the window likely.
Oh yes, I agree. I meant Alakazam was given a mega previously and if it gets something new just seems unfair to the rest of the pokemon. Everything on the list besides Alakazam (plus the ones revealed today) don’t go mega which I think is their way of compensating them. Guess we’ll see.
I can agree on that. He already had a chance to shine, when there are so many that still haven’t from gen 1 and otherwise.
still waiting on that water/ghost or water type dolphin pokemon…
Or my EFFING GROUND/FIGHTING
That gorilla is becoming reality bro. ITS BECOMING REALITYYYY
IS IT?! OR IS IT ANOTHER LIE
OOOOH
Y water /ghost ?
😉
What is the source for this information? I know the starters are that Chinese rumor. But what about all this other information???? Really lost in terms of the source.
WAIT ASH GRENINJA IS COMING TO OUR GAMES WUT
I’m not believing that untill I see it personally.
Likely as a customized form of Greninja. It will be similar to AZ’s Floette and Spiky-Ear Pichu.
We never got AZ’s floette. I kinda forgot that that was programmed into the games.
I get why it was there (the final cutscene) but I think it’s weird that it was programmed with better stats and stuff when we never got it.
pokemon sun buying
I wish they didn’t make these stupid Variants
They could’ve done a regular Artic Fox and another Spiny Ice rodent
I JUST GOT HOME FROM SCHOOL AND ALL OF THIS IS CONFIRMED WHAT!!
Oh man, I’m so hyped. My team is now
Popplio
PikiPek
Mimikyu
Ninetales
Lurantis
This gen is shaping up to be absolutely amazing
Also is was a bit farfetch’d on Yungoos but Gumshoos is just straight up Donald Trump
I get the whole Donald Trump thing, but it looks more like an old timey Dick Gumshoe to me.
My team so far will be:
Popplio
Pipipek
Mudsdale
Chinese Leaked Snowman
Oh my god so much to talk about. The alolan forms are awesome. But executor is just stupid. Ninetales might be my favorite pokemon though. I liked it already but Ice/Fairy? My two favorite types? Get out of here that’s awesome!
Exeggutor may have used growth too many times. . .
Now i’m imagining an exeggutor similar to annoying dog
Sun:
Rowlet
Salandit
Mimikyu
Sandslash
Moon
Popplio
Exeggutor
OH
AND DANCING BIRDS
Looks like the Eggs are finally on my side 😉
(Refresh)
The Jwitz is speechless
Can you link?
Can’t
I don’t blame him, nearly every Poketuber I saw reacting to the trailer was speechless in a way.
Heck, I was speechless, my brain just couldn’t comprehend all that info, especially on the size of today’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br6zdr0sWPQ
The uploader’s username makes me want to smash in my screen
…Jwittz?
Yes
Why? Wittz is supposed to be short for Wittenkeller, his last name and the J is for Josh
I just hate the abbreviation, sorry.
Oh, fair enough
I guess this confirms Rowlet’s name origin being Arrow + Owlet.
Imagine
Alola Bulbasaur – Bulbasaur in the Alola region settled near an active volcanic. Frequent eruptions, caused the Bulbasaur to adapt to the extensive heat by shedding its leaves and developing an internal furnace embedded within its body.
Alolan Charmader – Charmander settled close the beaches of Alola. Unable to travel to the other islands due its fiery nature, the Charmander began learning to swim, those who could survive as their tail fires were out, adapted to the oceans of the Alola region becoming excellent swimmers.
Alolan Squirtle – Squirtle settled in the marshes of the Alola region. However due th intense heat from the sun, much of the wetlands dried to leave massive jungles. The squirtle adapted to this new environment by developing the ability to harness the Suns energy, growing large leaves on their shells, and vines around their arms and legs.
The kanto starters already have megas…. I wouldn’t mind if they actually did this though 😉
Just make it stop
Hey Earthen! You like Minior at all?
At first I was excited because I thought it would just be like the meteorite Fakemon I came up with Astrorbit but honestly doesn’t do it for me, I can easily see how many freaking weaknesses this thing will be ruined by
Unless this thing has beyond stellar defenses and speed to back up its attacks it will be easily put down by any of the weaknesses
Yep!
YES!!! Exactly like that.
We’ve already seen a regular charizard flying around :/ I like the idea but why not Johto starters, Kanto had their time in the light last year
So, Ash-Greninja Fire shuriken/Destructo Disc is most likely the Anime’s introduction to Z-moves.
……I really don’t think that will be the case
Maybe using the spinning momentum of the Giga Shuriken breaker to absorb the oncoming flamethrower or blast burn
Thats what I’m hoping too, it would make AG a far more authentic transformation that way.
The final evolution for Rowlet’s name could be Robin Hood based, with either hints of arrow, owl, or plant.
Archowl
Bowinowl
Quivoot
Slingeroot
Ugh you come up with names so easy.
Rowlinroot
Robinhoot 😛
Robinhoot it is.
Ooooohhh my god…. Sun and Moon are just…. oh man, I love these games. The idea of pokemon adapting to their environment and gaining a different type. The awesome pokemon designs, the change in the pokemon formula.
I’m so excite
I honestly think my appendix is dying ever since I watch this horror show
What exactly do you not like?
The variants
The birds
The ugly team captains
And the new Pokemon just aren’t doing it for me
Mudbray was the only minor victory but still the name is very uninspired and those goat eyes
But now because of this my dreams of using Popplio is dead since I cannot stand it turning into a freaking mermaid
so you like exactly nothing about these games so far… good to know, it probably won’t change either. too bad. . . . . .
I didn’t like ORAS it gave everyone everything they wanted while I got zilch
do you even know what you want?
I want a Ground/Fighting type
Some kind of Hulking Plant Ogre (Grogre) or my Tiki
Water/Fighting Chinese Acrobatic Popplio
Honestly just like big beefy Pokemon it just the only thing I like
Well I mean, if you limit yourself to liking only a specific kind of pokemon, you’re bound to be disappointed. I’m not telling you what to like, but try to use some different things maybe?
It just doesn’t feel right
Well like, you use Slurpuff right? Maybe use some pokemon similar to that? Maybe Azumarill?
If I POSSIBLY USED AZUMARILL I WOULD BE A COMPLETE FUCKING HIPPOCRIT
Slurpuff isn’t even something I use a lot, just that one little thing I came up with
Then people will just egg me on about Fairies
Just can’t they just make some stuff I freaking like, honestly I’m just freaking reduced to Rockruff and Mudsdale at this point
How would you be a hippocrit? Changing your opinion on something is hypocritical
The thing that causes me more problems each day, the thing I curse its name and its blood nearly every day and the final twist in the four foot machete lodged in nearly every one of my sides is to freaking break down and use them
So… what you dont like Azumarill? Because it is strong against ground? That is why you should branch out!
Azumarill is my favorite Pokemon of all time. Hmm hmm hmm heh heh heh… HAAHAHAHAHAHA.
It’s funny that my second favorite type is Fighting and the third is Ground.
Earthen is attempt to evicting me off Ground as my third fave on the basis that I like Swampert (which he hates) and Landrous (because legends) and Gliscor (because “one-trick staller”), and that I like Krookodile for “all the wrong reasons”… XD
If you want bizarre not Pokemon like designs you could always look into yokai watch.
ok well you got kittens evo then, and mudsdale, the sun legend, and gumshooes and I’m sure much more, you cant really get mad about not having big beefy hulking pokemon yet as if they are in the game they are going to be evolutions and as such haven’t been revealed yet
I don’t use legends and Gumshoos is ugly
Because you want stuff that isn’t child friendly
Can you explain those a but more?
The variants are neat because it gives an excuse to use a pokemon you might not have used before. it also gives more type variation in Alola.
The birds are… kinda weird but I like them. Little dancing birdies 😀
The team captains all look fine to me except that electric type guy.
Also, don’t you like Litten? He’s all big and buff. That seems kinda your style
I like Heatigre but I don’t like the idea of choosing littlen
I just wanted a switch it up but not like this
Well I mean I change starters pretty often during hype season so its ok to change your mind. Maybe just try to enjoy it if you can
You don’t need your appendix anyway
It’s about freaking time they did a little real world evolution. It doesn’t really make sense for Pokemon to always be the same no matter where they are. This makes them more diverse and interesting. lol
Ah.. the starters are real..
And I want to hug them. Except Litten… Litten will probably crush me
Giggle
”Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter” HYPE
Wha??
What is this nonsense?
Look at this baby
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me6fdcvTTF1r1n5pqo1_500.gif
Lag is pretty bad. Keeps teleporting back to where he just was. FIX THE SERVERS NIANTIC!
They took down my favorite one
An ice-type Vulpix. I still can’t believe what I’m typing.
I don’t think anyone can to be totally honest… it’ll take a few weeks to digest everything!
I’m stupidly excited. Give me a REAL squid Pokemon and some waifus, and Alola could be the best like no one ever was. (Also give my man Oshawott a little bit of positive acknowledgement for once please Pokemon ;_;)
I need the waifus… ALL OF THE WAIFUS!
Ughhhh can one at least of the females have some meat on their bones
I mean, yeah they all are a little thin atm but I’m sure they will introduce some stronger characters at some point, like Lenora, she was a bad ass and looked like should could take you out if she wanted
Please Pignite and Sawk easily killed her off
…. earthen for arceus sake! every pokemon is easily killed off by another thats how the pokemon universe works, so why is that always your counter comment, everything has weakness, it doesn’t make them any less bad ass
Because if I want an actual plus sized female character it will sound wrong or like a creep because those just don’t freaking exist in any games anymore unless they’re meant to be like that
umm, replied to the wrong comment?
just saying we have had NPC plus female characters..
See it just sounds so wrong if I say it, but nobody bats an eye at a stereotypical peppy bombshell waifu
Where did I say that ? I didn’t stop being silly. Noones saying anything like that.
i don’t see how it would sound wrong or make you sound like a creep (unless you’re one of those people who like the like 500 pound ballon fan art you see on the internet where they cant walk and just look like a lump) but a plus size female character is not something you should be ashamed of saying you want in a game, but their is a limit, pokemon is not going to put in a huge character because you cant be huge and be healthy because you cant walk, but you can be plus size and be healthy, so I guess my question is what is plus size for you?
People have different tastes, no one’s judging you for that. All that I’m seeing is that they bring up one plus sized female, Lenora, and you shoot it down saying she isn’t when she kind of is.
>Complains that certain pokemon easily kills off his pokemon.
> Makes fun of a gym leader because a pokemon can easily take her on
erthn plz
Just an endless cycle of never getting something I can enjoy while others drop their balls with every detail revealed
I really don’t know what to say dude. If you aren’t enjoying pokemon, I would recommend learning how to ROM hack. Then you can make your own games and your own pokemon. There are a ton of good tutorials on the pokemon rom hacking subreddit. You can pick up up and learn it pretty quickly from my experience
I haven’t enjoyed anything in years
Why don’t you just try it? Like I’m serious, if you don’t like something then you can do it your own way. I dabbled in rom hacking and I can tell you it is really fun. Scripting is pretty simple and there is alot of resources out there for it.
Kinda hard to do when my fucking laptop died
Ok well, when you get a new computer, spend some time to try it. You might be surprised
My lazy brother said he would help me build a PC but he’s a lazy t*at who’s never around, and there’s the money the ordering, the freaking assembly and all the freaking madness that is getting everything the way I like it
Because I can’t do this on my own
I built mine with my brother and after we had the parts it was running after like, 2 days. It isn’t too much of a hassle. The money is the hard part
Well I have a history of bad luck with all technology
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/b/b8/Black_White_Lenora_2.png/200px-Black_White_Lenora_2.png
i love lenora lol
She’s pretty boss
She’s not even that thick
she is in a healthy way
Well jeez dude, what do you want? Inflation? Keep in mind that alot of these characters move around and train with their pokemon so they are goona be in pretty good shape. While yeah, we could have a character that’s more muscular, I think the designs are fine
Yuck inflation doesn’t do it for me
You missed the point. I was exaggerating. The point is, the reason the trainers are skinny is because they train alot with their pokemon and are walking and moving on their journey and stuff like that. They are keeping in shape.
plus they are probably starving as they are kids on a journey and I doubt they find much food often lol
I can’t lie, I love the idea of the 4 Island leaders, I still do hope that they have gyms though. Now as far as starters go, I was having a hard time choosing between Rowlett and Litleo(leaning more toward Litleo). If this is infact Litleo’s final form, I’m going with Rowlett
Um…
http://65.media.tumblr.com/75d8575d2add58bf12258fd804b62ec9/tumblr_o78qjfKKby1uq3u3ko1_1280.jpg
I AM SO IN LOVE WITH THIS NEWS AND WE”RE GETTING MORE IN ONE AND A HALF WEEKS!!!! AHAHHHHAHAHAHHHHHHH
Why. Why they have to make every single fire-type starter final evolution BIPEDAL?
Apparently the main artist behind the scenes said that they would leave if any sort of fire starter that logically should be quadrupedal is not Bipedal.
😉 lol
I mean, Typhlosion sometimes runs on all 4’s
Welp… Think Megas are a thing of the past now or what?? There’s still so many possibilities and Pokemon on my Mega wish list… Will Mega Evolution make a return or is it “SO last gen” ???
While Lurantis is based on orchid mantis y they didn’t give it bug type this really strange issue …..maybe cuz bug-grass type have many weaknesses or we have many bug type already and have to have any. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ARasy6wsB_c/Tj6rmkar_8I/AAAAAAAAAMc/p9a9ILgg0Y0/s1600/Orchid-Mantis-praying-mantises.jpg
Or… it’s a flower trying to pass off as a bug-type to lure encroaching prey.
actually it’s the opposite it’s a bug doing some camouflage to looks like flower.
We know, but we’re saying for Lurantis, the idea is backwards, the plant/flower is trying to be a bug to either entice prey or to screw off potential predators 🙂
The actual animal is a bug being a plant, but Lurantis might be doing a backwards thing.
They didn’t say that in dex entry I smell some error ….GF always do the thing for a reason.
I mean, dex entries help, but not everything has to come from there. It helps and it makes sense, but sometimes it might not be there. And we could be wrong, it’s just something that we thought GF might do, this idea sounds like GF to me. Base it on an insect, but it’s a plant that acts like the insect it’s portraying.
Speaking of Dex entries, I know Fomantis states that all it cares about is photosynthesis. Not a lot of bugs are capable of photosynthesis. The only one I can think of is an aphid, and those don’t really look like either a mantis or Fomantis/Lurantis. Sure, could be nothing, but was something I wanted to bring up regardless 🙂
I wouldn’t have minded either typing regardless 🙂 Still love it regardless
Leavanny look like mantis to me …..sorry hun u can’t convince me this time, regardless the way I look at her ..she looks like a bug for me.
That’s fine, you think the way you want to think 🙂
I just think that it looks more plant than bug, other than looking like a orchid mantis.
Or you could both be right. Sometimes Pokemon aren’t just the animal they are based on, most times actually…
I understand. However, I’m talking about Lurantis. The inspiration may have come from a bug camouflaging itself to look like a flower, but for Lurantis, they may have tweaked it in favor of a pure-Grass-typing. 🙂
But we have bug grass types… Weaknesses weren’t an issue before.
Poor Leavanny, my favorite Grass-type! :C
So wat the reason they didn’t give it a bug type while it actually based on real bug ??
It’s GameFreak, no one truly knows how they work. xD
Oooohhh this makes me love it even more
Actually I like it and I am fine with pure grass type in the battle …..but it should a part of bug type.
So wonder how the progression of taking on the Trial Captains and Kahunas will be. It seems like Mallow is on the island to the east of MeleMele so I wonder Who’s on MeleMele. Also I suppose the fact that Hala is called a Kahuna rather than on of the captains mean that there are 3 other Kahunas to battle? I wonder if you have to beat all the trails first and then go back and challenge the Kahunas or if you take each island one at a time to completion. This whole thing is making me so excited!!! It’s been so long since I actually was excited about a Pokemon game to this degree. We have no idea how things are gonna go this time around and that makes it crazy interesting lol
From what I gathered from the official info, you have to beat all the trials on the island, then beat the Kahuna to move onto the next island. Beating him proves you beat all the trials and you can move on closer to being the Champion 🙂
Interesting. I imagine there will be mini bosses along the the trials too. I can’t imagine the captains are the only trainers you have to get through in order to complete the journey lol
It makes me think that the game will be like: Welcome to this island! Now go explore. I loved the finding things out for yourself aspect of gen 1 so being able to explore the islands at your own pace would be awesome!
Yeah, something about unpredictability of this game makes it super exciting!
Just make this happen, Game Freak!
fire/water or Dragon/fire? lol
dragon fire!
OOOH, Fire/Water! We need a non-legendary of this dual type.
Ohhhhh That will be damn awesome.
Well, we all need to admit that the ability GF has to completely screw promising starters is marvelous. I mean, I don’t think that even on my worst day I’d be able to turn a nice black cat into Tony The Tiger’s ill-fated cousin.
Litten’s evo actually has kind of grown on me. I’m still going with my aquatic beauty, but I like all of these starters
I personally love all of them (except it’s difficult to like Litten 3). I think Popplio and Rowlet evolve into amazing things, and simplicity wasn’t sacrificed for those two.
Ironic I suppose, because if the final evolution of Rowlet is based on the English Robin Hood, then it’ll look like the French Empoleon had finally met it’s Waterloo.
~ My Thoughts on the New Pokemon ~
– Gumshoos: A great follow-up to Yungoos, retaining the simple color pallet while incorporating just enough nuances to truly give it its own niche, 3/5
– Mudbray: As many of us speculated, Mudsale indeed has a pre-evolution and a great one at that with the mud aesthetics and a cute design to boot, 3.5/5
– Minior: Simple, unique, and odd in a good way, 3/5
– Fomantis: Cute, elegant, and very well designed, 3/5
– Lurantis: Possibly one of the best Grass-type Pokemon designs and is truly a magnificent creature, 4/5
– Oricorio: Unique forms, great design for each form boasting spritz of colors and gives off a great tropical bird feel, 3/5
– Alolan Vulpix and Ninetails: Beautiful, gorgeous, what more can I say? 4/5
– Alolan Sandshrew and Sandslash: Great designs, especially for Sandslash with those icy spikes on its back, 3.5/5
– Alolan Exeggutor: Odd design but done very well with it giving off the most amount of Gen 1 vibes design wise, 3.5/5
I agree with all of them 😀
I’d think Gumshoos was the least liked one today, and that’s saying something cause I like it.
This is going to be so hard when I need to pick teams xD
IKR
I like all the pokemon and I agree with Natsu’s rating XD
I just have a big list of maybes for my teams xD
Like, it’s weird. WIth past gens, there was easily ones I could rule out.
THis time is so much harder since I love most of the designs 🙂
IKR
Alolan Sandslash: Sandslash/5
Just a thought, but with Vulpix and Sandshrew being Version exclusive to Pokemon Blue, and Growlithe being rumored to have a Alolan form, does anyone else think Ekans will get a Alolan form?
yeah I was thinking that earlier, I bet it will
And with the talk of Yungoos being brought to control the population of a certain Pokemon, there might be a chance of that being the Ekans variation :S
Does anyone here know Japanese? This map labels Melemele and the island to the right of it by name.
I do 😀
Aakara is how it’s written in Romanji. It’s definitely Akala (r are used for Ls)
Bleh, it’s techinically written in katakana, but if you write it in romaji* it would be that ^^
I’m terrible xD
HA! I knew it!! The Noki from Mario Sunshine.. that’s what Exeggutor’s tail head reminds me off.
Guys don’t forget about the Pokemon in vehicles too
UGH THERE IS SO MUCH STUFF XD
hope we’ll get an alola starmie and an alola seaking. Love both and they have lots of potential.
Wait so what will happen to mega pokemon? Is it COMPLETELY removed or just no new mega pokemon are coming and they might nerf some of the older ones….
I think it may just be no new megas. But with all thats changing this gen i wouldn’t be surprised if they took it out even with how much it changed the meta game. It’ll be a shame if they take megas out for some cause it what made some pokemon relevant. (Lopunny, Mawhile, etc)
True, or they nerf mega’s like Kangaskhan (nerf Parental Bond and its stats) and nerf Mawhile (stats cuz that attack is crazy).
And maybe they add it as a postgame quest….
I really don’t thing we’re going to have a villinous team thins time around. I mean the formula is already getting torn to shreds. This gen is looking like it’s goona be focused on the pokemon and the world itself rather than the conflicts within it
I would actually be happy with this. If they don’t have a good concept for an evil team, don’t make one at all. As soon as they come up with a creative concept they can make one again.
My thoughts on the new Pokemon:
Gumshoos: Good follow up to Yungoos, let the Donald Trump jokes continue! 8/10
Mudbray: So cute! Great pre-evolution to the Mudsdale that I plan to put on my team of six Pokemon. 10/10
Minior: Not my favorite design of the six new ones revealed. But not bad either. 5/10
Oricorio: Excellent designs that give off the vibes to different dances of different cultures. I especially love the one with the Japanese motif. 10/10
Fomantis: Cute but simple. Nothing really stands out to me. 7/10
Lurantis: A good design. But again, nothing really stands out 7/10
Alolan Pokemon:
Sandshrew: 10/10 Love the cute little igloo like fortress on it’s back.
Sandslash: 10/10 Love the Crystals that poke out of it’s back.
Vulpix: 8/10 A good design. But the tail to me looks off as it’s covered by mist.
Ninetales: 10/10 Very majestic! Love the design and typing!
Nice! But you forgot exeggutor for alolan pokemon. What is your rating for it?
Oh, I’ll add that in.
maybe much like its neck it goes beyond our comprehension
It’s been added in. But I’ll give description here:
Exeggutor: 7/10: A little weird. But likely inspired by that beta design from many, many years ago. Don’t get concept behind the typing.
Gaijin goomba thought it could be because growing dragonflies has becoming a lot more popular in Hawaii lately
The dragon type comes from the dragon palm, a plant that looks very much like Exeggutor.
Ah. Thank you for the insight! ^_^
I see Arbok getting an Alola form. The pattern on its belly should change and maybe look a bit more menacing.
I love Arbok but it really needs some new love. Especially with Sandsrew getting some.
It should be Poison/Dragon. Please Game Freak, make it happen!
I’d guess Ground for some reason :S
If it gets a new typing I would love for it to become Poison/Psychic and have the eyes on its frills give off a hypnotic gaze
If this is true, then Sun & Moon will be even more fresh than it already is!
Alolan Ninetales live on a snowy peak that is revered in the Alola region as a holy mountain. They are treated as sacred emissaries, and people meet them with awe and fear. This Pokémon’s personality is extremely gentle, and at times it has helped humans who seem to be in distress. However, it shows no mercy at all to anyone or anything that dares to damage its territory!
Ninetale’s description. This is legit my favorite pokemon now. I was actually using it in Soul Silver in my current playthrough so I’m goona have my Kanosian, Johtoian and Alolian Ninetales. Together, they are 27tales!
And it will meet my Excadrill’s Claws
Don’t worry, Penny and Penny will deal with that (my two other Ninetales)
I must kill all Ninetales because you call it Penny
? wat ?
I love Alola Ninetale cause Ice/Fairy, but the name Penny is woeful
No no, I named the regular ones Penny. It was more of a name for Vulpix but yeah
Pshhhaw I’ll just Earthquake them
Earthen? Bud. I can switch back into Ice Ninetales in that situation. You don’t have to always kill the ones I love.
If I don’t have love then nobody can
But Earthen….. Pokejungle loves you!
He could use Rhyperior?
lol, both penny? my ninetails in ORAS is named sunny, so I think I will name the Ice one Cher like the queen it is! 😛
Oh wow I like that name! I’ll have to think of one for SuMo
Shinshine and moonshine, and you could start rumours about moonshine always being intoxicated LOL jk
The descirption is godly.
I wonder how it will evolve. Fire stone wouldn’t make much sense. Maybe a dawn stone?
That’s what I thought.
Are there official adjectival names for the regions?
– Alolan
– Kalosian
I forgot the rest.
I kinda just made them up 😛
I know, but I’m talking about the official ones the Pokemon world uses such as Alolan, Kalosian, etc…
I don’t know. I think Kalosian was the first official one.
I think it says “Kalosian” in the kiloude city description.
I drew a mock up fighting alakazam:
LOL
muhammad Alikazam.
oh dam I was looking serious stuff ……the concept of fighting Alakazam is so crazy …..u make me rf for nothing u should pay for this.
I think up to this point, the only Pokemon with regional differences are Arbok, Shellos, and Gastrodon.
Arbok too? How?
Until about gen 5 the face on arboks Sprite changed every gen.
the face pattern is different in different regions
poison Shellos and Gastrodon sounds good to me.
So, I’ve been constantly saying how gen 6 felt very empty and boring.
I liked gen 5 a lot because GameFreak went out of the box and showed their creativity.
So I’m really happy (after fully processing this news) with how they are changing the game to make it fresh and a new experience.
I can’t wait and I wonder how the legendaries play into the story and lore. Sun and Moon look to be some amazing games and I’m more hype for them than I was for X and Y!
Wow I had to find out about Alolan formes on FB a few minutes ago…
I was peeved at first but when I looked at the trailer with all the new things, I have to say Im impressed. Sun and Moon is very original! I mean, the island challenge, trials, totem pokemon (with their many vs 1 battles), Kahunas, Z-MOVES! Well done game freak! Just well done! :’)
I concur, senpai!
In one of the previous Japanese trailers Arcanine is shown without its Alolan Form
Arcanine doesn’t have one yet..
I believe he is referring to the fact that the rumor says that it will have one.
It could be depends on the habitat that he live in.
You know how all trailers have that little “footage not final” note?
I still can’t imagine a water arcanine. Like, how is that gonna be possible? I guess we’ll have to see!
Oh we shall SEA
AHAHAHA
Hopefully it can get a good move pool
LOL POOL
That pun was completely accidental believe it or not
That’s awesome XD lol
Woo, well overdue avatar change! 😀
Nice 😀 I love Raichu <3
Yeah, Raichu is great! Sadly it gets overshadowed by pikachu though. I think that once I get on desktop, I’ll zoom in on its face, but for now this is fine.
Are we not going to talk about the fact that the leaker said that, “Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter” ?!?
If this^ is true, I’d be fine with the leaked final evolutions because there will be a secondary final evolution too!
OMG YOURE RIGHT
Wait what the heck does that mean XD?
Why say it like “there MAY be?” There are or there arent. And I dont want them personally.
Guys don’t forget we still have the whole Rotom pokedex and omg there is so MUCH STUFFF APSODOISDF
What?
11 days until new info on August 12. As well coro coro leaking around then
I just had a thought but what if the leaker means: “There’s no Gyms or League in Alola, you have to create your own. Then, an Elite Four will appear on each Island”, he means that four Trial Captains will eventually become an Elite Four for each island and that the Champion is on that manmade Island and that “Victory Road” before his/her area, is the final trial. I know this sounds really wild but most people think of the Elite Four as four people, not just one person. Food for thought.
I thought the Kahunas were going to become the Elite 4
It’s possible he could mean that. I’m just spitballing here. Don’t mind me. Lol. *Wonders into dream land*
Interesting idea… Although I think the kahunnas would be the elite 4 and the captains would be gym leaders.
I’d love that too! But they said no traditional Gyms. But I suppose by traditional, they mean what we’re used to. In a building. A Trial Captain can certainly pass a Gym Leader for the Alola Region. And Alola/Hawaii’s culture is so different, I love how they’re approaching this with Trials and a Rite of Passage (League itself), similar to how you have to get accepted into a tribe as a member. If Game Freak does right, this could be one of the best games ever so far!
Yeah!
It’s how my last speculation was for those special hawaiian dance moves was that each type would have its own move, and that it wasnt only for grass, water, fore and electric. Because if it was something just for the new starters then why would electric get one too? Because Pikachu is the mascot of pokemon? Not a good enough reason! So yess a z-move for every type!! It reminds me of like a special finishing move from kingdom hearts or final fantasy (^-^)/
I hope this supposed bug/psychic butterfree turns out to be the pink one from the first season of the anime, because holy heck do I want that in the games
For the Water-type Arcanine, something like this I suppose. *refresh*
Ah, an ol’ sea dog. I don’t know that we’ll have double merfolk though 😛
Poor Popplio can’t catch a break.
Nothing against poplio!
Popplio likely isn’t actually a “dog” though, despite its inspiration being called a “river dog”. 🙂
I’d guess it will look closer to a regular Arcanine, with the white fur becoming more foam like, and Blue instead of orange everywhere else :S
Other than that, great drawing 😛
Not mine. Credits to the original artist. 🙂
I like the idea of it being a bit darker blue, but I think it should keep its back legso and just have the fish tail added
That’s one salty sea dog…
Mehh most of these Variants could’ve easily been brand new pokemon. And like someone mentioned before there is a huge influx of *cutesy* pokemon. This Gen started strong but its been losing steam.
so far all your comments have been saying that you don’t like much of it, there must surely be something about the new game info that you like?
I like a lot of the new pokemon, cute pokemon aren’t my thing but i dont hate em. My major issue is the variants. The kahunas and challenges is aight as long as by the end of the challenge you get a battle. And i dislike popplios and littens final evos. But other than that still want to play the game
fair enough, everyone likes different things, I think the reason we are getting so many “cutesy” pokemon right now is because they are focusing on early mons for the most part, the bigger ones are usually late game
Well I’m glad they aren’t being called new Pokemon because we don’t need a bunch of clones, we already have a bunch of repeated design ideas 😛
Wrong article again: I was rewatching the video!
Gumshoos for me doesnt feel like a DT inspiration even more now since I realized the name inspiration and the hands behind his back are it “waiting” and watching.
The birds are some of my new favorite pokemon ever. Love them.
And I REALLY hope that more than just kanto get new forms.
Oh, I feel it’ll be more than Kanto that gets these new forms.
And I love the Japanese Ghost/Flying bird the best. 🙂
The baile form is my favorite. Such a smart design. All of them really, their Galapagos finches and birds of paradise at the same time!
Something seems off they showed us normal Arcanine already yet it might get a different form that doesn’t add up
You can transfer the other forms into alola. Plus, think of them revealing a water arcanine being fought, people wouldn’t even focus on the new pokemon.
You make a better point then I did I just hope a Rugby Monkey won’t happen I’ve grown on starters though…
But Georilla Ground/Fighting…
I’d rather a Gorilla then a Sports loving Monkey
It just mostly has armor padding like skin and by rugby it probably excels in tackling opponents
I bet it just carries a ball. Maybe a helmet and it’s used in sports on alola. I’m looking forward to the design, it’s the next item carrying Pokemon. Farfetchd did it first! 🙂
I hope your interpretation is correct
The birds are amazing. Does Dancer give you the option to use the dancing move on the next turn or automatically do it for you?
It does it automatically!
O thank god. The wording confused me
Nope just copies the effects of the Dancing move used
Volcarona and Oricorio double battle buddies for life >:)
And a constant fear of Rock Slide
Aw…gotta ruin the party
Fighting/flying Doduo Dodrio huh? Looks like that Pokemon Go glitch was more like a leak to me lol
Pokemon go glitch?
A Geodude and Doduo spawned in the same spot
…And clipped into each other? Ok I understand.
I wanted a coconut-themed pokemon and got it xD
Guess I cant complain .-.
What Exeggutor? Well yeah technically hahaha
I think Oricorio is based off of a kiwi….
Lurantis looks like Gardevoir’s dapper lover.
Or it’s the Portia to Leavanny’s Ellen
That’s everything I’ve never known I’ve wanted.
Do you think that Mega Evolution will be removed?
No
Nope!
Yes I do.
Pourquoi
I don’t, because Mega Evolution is still new. That would change everything in terms of taking something that some species received. For example, Pinsir would lose the use it has now. They changed too much, they gave new life to some Pokémon and they would not take a mechanic so important from the games. Also, Mega Evolution was not fully explained, there are things from Mega Evoluiton and Gen. 6 yet to be explained.
I think that they will return in the postgame, giving time for people to enjoy the new mechanics.
Also, what do the Starters and Rockruff have of special?
Probably that they are resembling alchemic symbols or something like that….
I don’t know if it will be completely removed. But no new mega evolutions, and it will probably be post-game material. I still don’t see something so big in gen 6 completely disappearing.
Now, what they could do keep some balance is nerf some really strong ones.
I hope they make new Mega Evolutions, but I agree with you! They would not take it from the games, it is so fresh!
Nah, they wouldn’t remove 50+ designs just like that. I don’t see why Megas and Deltas can’t co-exist.
I think the question is if megas and z moves can coexist, which I think can.
Yes, since the crystal will be on the bracelet and the it won’t occupy the held item for the Mega Stone, right?
Doesn’t the Pokémon have to be holding a separate crystal to do a Z move?i
I don’t think so, but I’ll check it out!
@OmegaEmpoleon:disqus, it is hard to understand. It says that you need the bracelet and the crystal and that the Pokémon must know a move from the same type as the crystal, but if you have it on the bracelet, why does the Pokémon need to hold it?
I don’t recall anything about the pokemon needing to hold an item. I believe it’s just getting mixed up with mega evolution.
That’s my point!
I really can’t decide if I like the idea of alolan forms for old pokemon. I mean are we going to get new forms for every new region? Only Alola? Why Alola? It seems so random, they just take an old Pokemon and give it a random type and change its stats. Don’t get me wrong they look amazing but it’s just confusing to me
just read its backstory and you’ll know why
Microclimates
It’s not randomly reassigning Pokemon willy nilly
Vulpix and Sandshrew learned to adapt in the frigid cold
And the extreme tropic sunshine did a number on Exeggutor’s growth process
they actually feel more natural than Mega Evolutions, because they represent a real evolution/adaptation like in the real world, varying depending on the environment.
I hope that two formes (Alolan and default) of the same Pokemon are allowed on official competitions. I cannot wait to use Ninetales + Alolan Ninetales <3
I will make a team with Exeggutor and Alola’s Exeggutor, Ninetales and Alola’s Ninetales, Sandslash and Alola’s Sandslash eheh
I hope they you can’t otherwise why freaking bothering making new Pokemon when you could just slap on a different skin
Yes, I’m talking about casual gameplay. Online, I think you won’t be able to, since it is the same Pokémon. I think you’ll need to choose one!
Ughhhhhhhh don’t even get me started on competitive, already can feel just even more crap coming my way
they might make exceptions seeing as how so far the variations have had different typings, so it wouldn’t really affect the online competitive scene, they are different things in that right
Some parts of this leak are still weak… Youre not really establishing a league I suppose… Hey that grass type girl is probably ash’s new companion?!
Which parts?
Like the ‘ establish league’ and I think you battle the kahunas immediately after completing each trial. That is presuming by elite 4 the leaker meant the Kahunas
Yeah, Mallow’s gonna be the new companion based on the concept art.
So my annual thing of each leak from all Pokemon revealed (not including forms of Oricorio or Alolan Pokemon) your favorite from first to last? mine is
1. Popplio
2. Komala
3. Togedemaro
4. Bounsweet
5. Minior
6. Salandit
7. Mimikyu
8. Yungoos
9. Lurantis
10. Rowlet
11. Rockruff
12. Cutiefly
13. Drampa
14. Pikipek
15. Mudsdale
16. Comfey
17. Fomantis
18. Wimpod
19. Lunala
20. Charjabug
21. Grubbin
22. Gumshoos
23. Beware
24. Mudbray
25. Oricorio
26. Litten
27. Vikavolt
28. Solgaleo
29. Tapu Koko
30. Magearna
31. Bruxish
lmao Bruxish still last xD
Oh goodness, I’mjsut gonna add the new Pokemon in, I can’t recreate it xD
Minior is between 10-20 (closer to 20), Fomantis and Lurantis are near the top, definitely top 10 for sure, Gumshoos is also near the middle, Mudbray just barely out of the top 10, and Oricorio is around the same as Mudbray.
I’m no longer upset if those starter finals are real because with all the new features in this game, the game’s dependency on how good the starter finals look is irrelevant now!
Potentially the first pokemon game where I may ditch the starter… So far the only thing I don’t like about sun and moon is these arts for the final evolutions of the starters T_T
Understandable, back in 6th gen, I didn’t like Quilladin’s art at all, but once I saw it in gameplay, it became alright to me. Maybe the same will happen for you with these guys 🙂
I don’t know about you, but when I don’t like a Pokemon, the first thing I do is draw it. It helps me become well acquainted with its design and helps build appreciation for it. 9 times out of 10, I’ll either come to like it, or at the very least respect it enough to use it.
That’s . . . actually a solid idea.
I also recommend, if people are like me, looking up the potential origins/design origins of the Pokemon and what they tried to do. When I see the effort and detail they put into a Pokemon that way, I find something to like about it. Like with Bruxish. I don’t care much for it, but I appreciate the level of detail they went into to capture Bruxism, which is a type of disorder where you involuntarily grind your teeth. You learn something new and you can potentially find something to like about a design you don’t care for/hate.
You did it again PJ congrats
Woah when was the last time you were on here? I haven’t seen you since the XY days.
Yo you’re back!
Oh shit Alex I forgot you used to be a PJian, now youre a Novan 😮
Also what does this mean?
if this is true, Alolan Mega Alakazam would make sense
This is just all sorts of confusing to me now I think I need to get some sleep haha I’m getting a headache
Unless in Alakazam’s regional evolution it lost its ability to mega evolve, meaning only non-Alolan Alakazam can mega evolve.
What if they make a design for a mega alolan alakazam too? o.O
Wait a minute. Fighting type Alakazam? Is it gonna have knives instead of spoons??
Where’s my spork Alakazam?
I was thinking chainsaws.
that +18.
That’s okay with me
witfoh me too ….but not for kids.
I was thinking about Nunchaku.
Or one HUGE SPOON
Like Mewtwo in Pokemon adventures 😮
YEAH
If that is true I wonder what it will become as a mega
Why do people think that Mega Evolution will be entirely gone? It was a gigantic sixth generation mechanic. You cannot use Z-Moves with Mega Pokemon and they could be desimated by the attacks. This would balance the field of play as you could destroy a Mega rather easily. Also, I’m sure that you have to pick from Mega Evolution or using a Z-Moves thus balancing them both competitively. I’m only concerned if we are getting more Megas.
Exactly. A mechanic as huge as this doesn’t simply dissapear. I have no doubt that they will appear in the post game.
Need Mega Milotic
The thing is that if you give the option to use a mega or a zmove at the start of the battle then the mega seems more viable as it might be able to survive until the end of the battle giving me a really powerful pokemon for a whole battle while this z-move will just kill the first pokemon and then what? So yeah for me megas are the better investment, i think idk im confused about all this right now
That is dependent on your strategy though. Not everyone starts off with their mega. I think they’ll both be usable since they’re both automatically limited: one move per battle, one mega.
Yeah i guess you are right as i always leave my mega for last hehe i will just wait for the game to come out or for them to give more details on z moves so that i can make a judgement xD
Personally I’d rather have the Z-move so I can squash the opponent’s mega and go straight to normal fighting arrangements.
Which incidentally would squash your ‘leave the mega till last’ strategy if played correctly.
I’m CERTAINLY h-o-p-i-n-g these leaks become true!!!!!!!!
If we keep getting bracelets for new mechanics, we will have bracelets up and down our arms soon. xD
We’ll be emo
And the meta game will consist of a bunch of ten year olds spamming buttons on their arms.
We’re going to get so many girls! (Any H3H3 fans?) Anyways, there is a hole on the bottom of the Z-Ring where a Key Stone will likely go.
I know you mentioned this before, but where exactly is this hole located?
You can catch a glimpse of it in that Japanese trailer that first showed z moves and riding Pokemon.
I’ll try to find the picture for you! I need to slow down the footage!
You mean it doubles as a mega bracelet?
*sigh* im still really confunsed right now, my mind had time to procces this but i still feel like im in a void for some reason idk like im excited but at the same time scared and i have never felt like this before towards anything which confuses me more xD
KiaweXKukui
-runs away-
and my character in the middle
I knew kiawe looked like someone he is a cross between chili, marlon and kukui!
Kiakui
i think that megas will be back but post-game (maybe prof sycamore comes and gives you the bracelet after you finist the story)
It’s already confirmed you have the bracelet from near the beginning. It also has the round indention on the rear side for a key stone, but of course it’s unusable until you’re given the stone.
true maybe sycamore just gonna give you your first stone. maybe they want you to use the new mechanic and when you finish the story you can use megas. just like BW didnt let you use old gen pokemon until postgame
I think so too! It would explain why they haven’t shown anything to do with them.
Or Zinnia gives you a Key Stone!
I think that after each trial and totem pokemon you will be challenged by the respective trial captian before being allowed to battle the kahuna, i mean what is the purpose of giving them type specialties if you aint battling them
Is Lurantis Lure+Mantis or Lure+Clemantis?
Yes
Whats a clematis?
I meant Clemantis. it’s a flower.
Oh cool!
Could be both 😀
I hope the totem battles are really hard! I just want a challenge :0
“Donald trump used build wall”
“Donald defenses went up”
They have increased defense and can team up on you, but other than that it’s not looking too challenging.
I don’t think they’ll be very hard unless the Totem Pokémon’s HP rises too.
That’s what I’m hoping for.
I think that they won’t be challenging but the kahuna’s will be super hard…. Hopefully. I just really want something difficult..
Inb4 everything is easier than x and y (hopefully not)
PLEASE NO
They get raised stats and could call other Pokemon to help. I’m assuming they will get higher levels. I don’t think they will be too difficult with the right Pokemon.
@science side of pokejungle. care to explain why exeguttor is dragon type
Dragon Palm Tree :^)
oh thats make more sense now
Dragon Palm.
As you can see many think it is from the “dragon palm tree” but actually it is because its butt head has the mighty power of dragons comparable to those of white and black kyurem or even mega rayquaza! Lel jk
I can vouche as I am an actual scientist
It’s so much new stuff at once that it feels like a farewell game. Like they’re trying to finish the franchise with a bang or smth like that.
IDTS. Pokemon will continue until they aren’t selling well at all. But currently they are peaking more than ever and I think Pokemon will be around for awhile.
Yeah, I think is unlikely as well, but I can’t help this feeling.
Hey on the evos why would an anime character like ash be on a page for game evolutions to me it makes no sense. Also why would the put mallow on a fire starter’s picture.
Because concept art? Nah maybe they were already planning ahead for the anime series
It’s concept art for the anime and to show starter personality…
The concept art is meant to be references for the anime. That’s why it shows attacks and animations from multiple angles.
No it is suppose to be for the games so why put anime stuff in there or put a grass person om a fire starter’s evolution.
The concept art really is most likely for the anime with the fact that Ash/Satoshi is drawn in. Mallow is indicated as being his companion throughout his journey in the Alola region.
In case any of you, like me, were wondering what these Z-Moves were called in
Japanese, I found them out:
Gigavolt Havoc -> Sparking Giga Volt
Bloom Doom -> Bloom Shine Extra
Inferno Overdrive -> Dynamic Full Flame
Hydro Vortex -> Super Aqua Tornado
I personally think the English names are better, but the Japanese names aren’t bad when you shout them out in the same fashion as Giga… Doriiiiiru… BUREEEEEEKU!!
Pierce the heavens! ☝️
XY looking at Sun and Moon like
http://i.imgur.com/Thnmztt.gif
XD let’s hope sun and moon are amazing games. Something that would make these games some of the best is if it is harder than X and Y….
i remember when XY came out i was like “WHEW this going to change the metagame, smogon is shook, oh the best pokemon game ever. this new mechanics got everyone shaking on their booties” and now is like “XY?, I dont know her”
And yet another loss because of Manaphy and the dick had the nerve to insult my team, like 5 legends
Link ?
Exited out but check this bs proving I have bad luck
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-409416354
One tiny fucking 10% chance to paralyze AND IT COST ME THE WIN
I think the alolan forms is a way more creative and fun way to breath new life into older Pokemon than mega evolution. I loved some of hem but this seems more on par with the core franchise than mega evolution did.
I do have to say that I’ll miss the gyms and I’m hoping we either return to Kalos and can challenge that league or once if we are creating a league in alola you can challenge it post game, which would be a really cool way to have a fun post game!
>Confirmed to be true
>No sources
aight lmao
You don’t need sources when the evidence is right in front of your own eyes. There are no sources.
The title is still misleading.
How? It’s literally confirmed
It implies that Gamefreak officially confirmed the leaks. They did not.
Alright, it’s not confirmed by official sources, but we can confirm way crazier things if it doesn’t turn out to be true.
I guess the leaker managed to guess Mallow’s exact design?
There are 18 types in Pokémon. That means 18 Z-Moves available. We already have 4 Z-moves revealed. Gigavolt Havoc for Electric-types, Bloom Doom for Grass-types, Inferno Overdrive for Fire-types, and Hydro Vortex for Water-types. What would you Junglers name the Z-moves of the other types? My favorite types are Psychic and Dragon, so I’d call their respective Z-moves, um… Psydisaster and Draconian Wrath!
MEGASTEEL ULTRA CANNON
Unlimited Blade Wor– Wait, no. That’s taken.
I really can’t think of anything good when it comes too Steel-type. There’s sooo much to pull from. Iron, steel, metal, luster…
I like “Serpentine Slaughter” for Dragon. Maybe that’s a little harsh for a kid’s game.
Lysandre threatened to kill the character, didn’t he?
Lysandre threatened but ghetsis is the only who has tried #ghetsisbestbadguy cyrus was cool too
Well to be fair Cyrus attempted to kill like billions of people
Just a tad. lol
I like the Dragon one 😀
I’d think Fairy would probably have Moon or flower in the title.
Maybe Moonflower Burst?
(We need Earthen’s names xD mine sucked)
I’m too fucking pissed off to come up with names
Aw, I’m sorry D:
When you cool down, we definitely need your name-creativity 🙂
Sorry, sorry after getting a clean Calm Mind Slurpuff Unburdened to tank a Starmie Life Orb Thunderbolt only to get paralyzed crippling it, then instantly killing my Skarmory
Just my freaking luck
Thanks! I think it fits perfectly with the Dragon-type. According to Google, the definition of draconian is (of laws or their application) excessively harsh and severe.
Synonyms: harsh, severe, strict, extreme, drastic, stringent, tough
I actually love Moonflower Burst for a Fairy-type Z-Move. It goes hand-in-hand with what Fairy-types Pokémon have been representing, the moon and flowers.
And, sort of unknowingly, moonflowers are an actual flower. I thought it was, but I wasn’t too sure xD
How about moonlight ruin?
That one’s cool too 🙂 I was going for a combo or moon and flower, but having one or the other would fit too :3
Thx im trying to come up with names for other types but its no easy task xD
Yeah totally, I tried with Psychic, but I couldn’t really think of anyting. I was thinking maybe something to do with ‘Mind’s Eye’ but I’ve got nothing xD
I’ll admit… I cheated with my take on a Psychic-type Z-move. Psydisaster is the name of Mewtwo’s Burst Attack in Pokken Tournament. But, I kinda loved the name when I first read it and it stuck to me.
Third Eye Rampage? Haha
Not too bad, although it’s a bit too similar to Light of Ruin,
Eternal Flower Floette’s signature move.
Oh right i had forgotten that move existed weird how it never got released
Sun & Moon will most likely tie A LOT of loose X & Y knots.
I thought they could finally reveal all the plotholes mega evolution left but now with z moves i think that either it wont happen or it will be a post game story but i do hope that sun and moon ties into the question gen 6 left
Draco meteor for dragon!…oh wait
How about Big Earthquake for ground. Very creative.
gamefreak is shook!
I lol’d.
Fissure! Oh wait… but seriosly though i cant see anything more powerful than a crack in the crust of the planet
Gaia Breaker? Gaia Breaker!
That actually sounds awesome and intimidating!
Bloom doom is literally the least menacing name ever. “I WILL FAINT YOUR POKEMON WITH….. bloom doom xd :p”
I can respect the rhyme though xD
Seed flare sounds terrifying in comparison imo lmao
Gloom used Bloom Doom!
“I’ll destroy you with rhymes…” >:U
It’s August, so now it’s time to seriously think about the Nintendo NX. It will either be revealed this month or next, no doubts about it. Less than an hour ago, this series of images showing what appears to be the system showed up on 4chan. They look very convincing, almost as if they were drawn by a professional design artist. The only thing the poster said is “>$399”. I know this isn’t Pokemon related, but please bear with me, as this could be an important find! I think this article shows how leaks should never be counted out immediately.
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1470094524301.png
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1470094531437.png
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1470094593402.png
I’d prefer something less gimmicky honestly.
Also I just hope it’s not fragile. I’d hate to drop it and be down a controller.
…and possibly a screen. This might need a strap or something.
Yeah. And hopefully removing the pieces works fine.
It looks pretty robust. The square controller has deep grooves to place fingers like the Wii U Gamepad.
I wish they would return to something more similar to the gamecube controller.
Never mind, it’s actually a Neogaf mockup. You can disregard this post now. Just consider this a general NX comment.
If I can play Breath of the Wild on a portable console I’m buying the hell out of the NX. If it’s just a console, then not so much….
Grass Bloom Doom
Fire Inferno Overdrive
Water Hydro Vortex
Electric Gigavolt Havoc
Normal Balance Breaker
Rock Stone Storm
Ground *my personal favorite* Tectonic Terrorizer
Ice Frozen Fury
Fighting Champion’s Finish
Poison Noxious Nova
Flying Cyclone Slicer
Bug Power Swarm
Dark Coup de gras or Sinister Strike
Psychic Celestial supernova
Ghost Spirit Screech
Dragon Dragon’s Roar
Steel Iron Apocalypse
Fairy Mystical Tempest
where the fuck did you get this info
I made it up scrub for brains
Yh i figured, because the steel iron one sounded out of sense
These are amazing!
BRUH THIS IS AWESOME!
Im sorry about this but i read frozen fury and all i think about is a frozen sequel with angry elsa plz dont kill me, the rest sound awesome though
I’m mentally bound to play this
https://youtu.be/G8p9o28yqws
Watch it, or else *Pulls out ankle knife*
Ok i will try to watch it
Lmao wtf ????
Oney and PsychicPeebles sing beautifully
Indeed they do hahaha
Better than the original.
These are amazing, really liking Celestial Supernova <3
Gathering fragments of the collected minds of the universe, you cause a massive psychic blast
Cant wait to see magikarp using hydro vortex lmao
Impossible, Magikarp cannot learn water moves.
Oh right ?
It really does suck
It’s the definition of suck
*sunkern is worse*
All they need is a move that corresponds to a Z-Crystal to use a Z-Move. Get ready for the Flying-type Z-move Magikarp meta!
It can’t
Only the normal and flying
Then i cant wait to see magikarp using a z move xD
And I will eat my own tail first before that ever happens
I think they transformed Exeggutor because it is the 20th anniversary. I mean, its no coincidence that a pokedex entry describes it as having a huge neck, and an art of an exeggutor with a huge neck 20 years ago..
Yeah it makes me want to see old ideias, maybe try to find something curious like exeggutor which whom i like, i feel that this new form was natural 🙂 i liked it
The idea of Alola form Pokemon opens a lot of possibilities. Are there any Alola form Pokemon that you guys want to see put in Sun and Moon?
Eevee 😉
Hmmmm….
Would love to see Persian, possibly part Dark type (dunno why I just feel it)
Outside of Gen 1, Gardevoir, Luxray, Cinccino, and Aurorus :3
What typings for those?
Like I said, Persian would be part Dark or just Dark type (maybe Normal/Dark)
Gardevoir – Flying/Ghost
Aurorus – Ground/Steel
Cinccino – Fairy
Luxray – Dark/Poison
Nice! What was the mentality for flying/ghost btw?
That typing, and all the typings, are basically cause I wanted to see what those typings would change about the original design xD Oh, and plus, typings I think could work on an Alola-varied mon
Okay, I was just wondering. When I think flying ghost gardevoar I think of an angel.
I already associate Gardevoir as a guardian Angel anyway (at least in certain aspects) so making it more angelic would be beautiful <3
That sounds DOPE. Especially the luxray!
Thanks 🙂 I just totally imagine that the Luxray family found an area that’s toxic to most living beings and it somehow adapted to tolerate and use it, as well as learning to use that poison in a sneaky sort of way since foes know to beware the poison (hence the typing)
Jynx…. And mr mime… Maybe snorlax but i dont think it will get one!
Luna moth Volcarona 🙂
Oh hey haha
Alola form Sudowudo and Quagsire, also Crystal Onix and Snowman Snorlax!
Alola volcarona psychic/fire
Or psychic bug.
If I did volcorona I would make it an ice moth 🙂
YES there are a lot of pokemon I want to see…
To name several :
Toxicroak- Water/poison. Or Water/Fighting
Zangoose- poison or dark.
Exploud- Fire or electric
Ursaring- Dark or fighting
Kingler- ground or Poison
Snorlax- I’m not sure. But Ice or fighting would be cool (it becomes super speedy and becomes super active to fight off other pokemon)
Braviary- Fire/Flying or Fighting/Flying (or maybe even ROCK)
Heliolisk- Gain Ground instead of Normal or ground/fire
What typing would you want them to get?
Hmmm… Let me edit it and then you can refresh…
Ok edited…
These are buns, dude…..
Nah these are cool. A skinny Snorlax sounds terrifying though.
Buns? XD
Isn’t that a saying that kids these days use?
Not that I know of XD but one of my favs is the speedy snorlax…
Or it could get fatter
YES
I didn’t think so… Am I that out of touch?
I have no idea :O
What do you guys think?
I like them!Toxicroak’s and Exploud’s especially 🙂
Thanks!
Ground/fire heliolisk sounds awesome i also like the braviary ideas and skinny active snorlax seem hilarious in my head like alolas exeggutor best friend the tall and skinny duo!
HAHAHHAHA
Can you imagine tho. Snorlax being a speedy attacker? XD
Yeah it sounds crazy ??
Ooo alola luxray fire/dark or pure dark
Oooooooh!
I feel like an Ice Torkoal would be cool. Water Hippowdon is a must.
Yeah water hippowdon sounds great! Water/fire or fire/rock are what I would do for torkoal though.
Instead of sand, its a fountain pouring out of its sides.
Yeah! And it would be in a puddle instead of a pile of sand!
Hopefully there would be 2 evolutions for each starter. Fire/fighting is just weird. If the leaks are true, and litten’s will indeed become fire/fighting, then poplio should probably be water/ice type. GF never had a pattern for their starters typings, but imo, Gen 6 typings were awesome. If rowlett keeps the grass/flying, litten is fire/fighting, and poplio is water/fairy, it would make litten’s final form look extremely week and useless compared to the other two, and idk if GF would do that again. The last time they did this was with empoleon, its typings was weak against both infernape and torterra. But the design for empoleon was very cool, the first water/steel thus far. However, litten could very well be fire/dark. That would very well be its secondary form.
Idk, this would prob be the first pokemon game that I do not like any of the starters. Rowlett is the third grass starter to have 4x weakness to another type. and Litten is the fourth fire starter to have fire/fighting. There are still so many combinations for starters but idk why GF does not utilize them…
1. grass/electric or grass/ground
2. fire/poison (now given to salandit) or fire/steel
3. water/fighting or water/normal or another water/steel
I am excited for the new form, its refreshing. The z-moves are pretty awesome. I hope that mega evolution will return with at least 5 pokemons or so. Hoping that arcanine can get a mega or a better typing combination in its new form instead of just water.
I think the final evo that we see of litten will be fire/dark tho. And popplio will probably be water/fairy…
I’ve been pretty up to date on the Chinese leak. But I don’t remember reading about the starters having two evo’s or post game Kalos. Anyone have a link?
so guys I wonder what Pokemon sun and moon will give us on the second half?
What do you mean by second half?
more news on August 12th!!!!
Awesome!!!
quote:The next bit of Sun & Moon news is due to com on Friday August 12th at 10:00 JST: unquote
A DARK TYPE >:I
Cool but which Pokemon?
Hopefully a Dark/Bug and Dark/Electric.
yeah which Pokemon fit these types?
…a new one?
yeah!
Evil team
hmm what Evil team will see next?
Well the theme is these games is life so maybe they want to turn alola into a natural reserve for pokemon by getting humans out of alola by any means possible (terror, money, killing etc) *maybe not killing lel
Or the opposite, trying to remove all of the nature to make room for a resort or something.
I hope so! If there even is one…
I wanna see a alohian form mewtwo being pure fighting type
Mewtwo has TWO MEGAS! I think it’s fine the way it is lol
But if the only way to get a original Pokémon who has a alohian form is transfer from older games that means just to get a original mewtwo ud have to buy r/b/y or x and y which would drive up there sales.so I see them giving the original kanto legendary new forms
I don’t think legends are abundant enough to adapt to get alolan forms
^This
Go to 16:10
ITS HILARIOUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OOuqiN7Tw8
Refresh if needed
I feel like they should get nappy to voice the oricorio baile style XD
Nappy is life.
Forreal tho, a good amount of the time with Nappy, I’m like ‘….this is literally me STAHP IT NAPPY STOP REVEALING MY INNER DEPTHS OF CRAZINESS’
LOL but his accent tho…
Inside me is an accent
Hahahahaha i would really like that
Does anyone think the Meteor will evolve?
I’m honestly not sure….
Part of me says yes, but the fact that is basically has a second form makes me hesitant.
I friggen well hope so
I think everything should evolve.
there are some pokemon that are fine as single stage pokemon, like ditto or unown
Well those are special cases.
It’s called Minior, and it would be weird to leave it at “Mini”. Same idea goes for Wimpod.
Nice catch!
Minior->medior->megaor
Yeah horrible pun but i guess it can be worse
Grandeor. Play on the word Grandeur
I think it could but i dont really care about it xD
It’s kinda cute. I’ll probably name mine Majora
Certain aspects of it make me think it will evolve, but there’s also something about it that says it won’t.
SO….maybe?? :S
Wow 2000 comments…
Whew… There’s a lot to talk about!
I just don’t have the mentality for a snarky comment
I remember the glory days back in XY where it wasn’t uncommon to see 5000 comment per article.
Yeah, I remember 🙂 It was super crazy
Then again, I also remember a good amount of it was considered ‘spam’ too (although it got really bad at ORAS)
Ah, those were the days…… It was a lot more hectic back then.
Lol I remember that… Back when I was called CharizardKing..
This Character from new Tiger mask anime. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470095737651.jpg
I was about to ask where his hair went when he puts on the mask, but it’s still there.
Is this related to Tiger and Bunny?
wat u didn’t watch tiger mask when u was a kid ?
Clearly nope, probably because it never showed in my place. 🙂
google it…..it’s so famous.
How I think alohian Pokémon forms should work.is any Pokémon from VC r/b/g/y that gets transferred to sun and moon if it has a alohian form since it’s already being converted for gender,nature,stats,and ability should be put in its alohian form with its converted r/b/y/g stats .and then u can only get regular versions from x,y/OR&AS
but the whole point of the Alolan forms is that you get them from Alola…
Alolan pokemon dont magically change form, they are born that way because they adapted, sort of like how evolution works irl
Yes but I was referring to how animals adapt to a new climate type thing which is whole basis for the forms
Well adaptions are inherited. I’m pretty sure the way you’ll catch Alola Pokemon would be by catching them in Alola and you would get the non Alola forms by transferring them.
Dummy they wouldn’t change overnight
They literally adapted over years of thriving in a different environment
It was a idea due to how everything else about them will change >.>
Yeah no
Hopefully VGC will allow for Pokemon from older games to be used. Because then we won’t be able to use the normal form of Pokemon…
I hope so and I’m also hoping on a G/S/C VC rerelease
You could probobly breed the normal form of the Pokemon to get a gen 7 one.
That’s tru…..
Shoot I didn’t think of that DAMNIT
I don’t think it’ll work like that, maybe if you breed the two together it might be random (or the same as the mother) but I feel like gen 7 ones will only breed the same, and normals ones the same, its like you wouldn’t breed a husky and get a malamute
No not in the Alola form! I ment you could breed a normal form from a past generation to get a normal form with the gen 7 version of a blue pentagon.
ohhhhhhh ok! gotcha 😛 lol my bad
I hope that girl will no be the ash’s partner! T.T I want Serena
Oh please that girl only wants Ash’s butt
i hope oricorio is not a gimmick pokemon and it actually evolves. The different typings would make it a fun pokemon to use
My favorite ones are baile and senzu styles
Same I’d order them Baile, senzu, Pom Pom, then pa’u
SAME!!
wait nvm i put senzu first and then baile
Baile senzu pa’u and then pom pom for me haha
Switch Senza with Baile, and Pom Pom with Pa’u and that’s my list 🙂
Instructions not clear got hand eaten by alolan exeggutor xD
that’s mine too.
Well it is a gimmick Pokemon, whether or not it evolves is a different story but I doubt it honestly.
Senzu > Baile > Pom-Pom >>> Pa’u
https://media.giphy.com/media/6C1UIepIvqUpO/giphy.gif
senzu > pom-pom > pa’u > Baile
imo
Baile > Sensu > Pa’u > Pom-Pom
:O
Same!
Baile > Sensu > Pa’u > Pom Pom
Woo more ppl are on my team!
Sensu>Baile>Pa’u> Pom Pom
We da same <3
Homie we have so much in common XD I mean, we both live in Florida 😀
True
I feel like we’ll just bump across each other irl and just know it was the other
*we both see each other randomly*
Me : Eeeeeyyyyyy it’s you.
You : yyeeeaaaahhhhh
xD
Or maybe we met and don’t even know it :OOOO
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MAYBE I’VE MET ALL OF YOU AND I NEVER KNEW IT?!
WHAT IF LIFE?!
I forgot the names and what types they correspond to, so I’ll do the types.
Electric > Ghost > Psychic > Fire
edit: Pom Pom > Sensu > Pa’u > Baile
For reference, my selection below goes Fire, Ghost, Psychic, Electric, if you want to know the names.
Cool, we’re almost the same, just two swaps! Thanks.
Sensu > Baile > Pa’u > Pom Pom
Hey, we’re the same 😀
It’s funny how different people’s opinions are of them 🙂
based on the opinions i see that Sensu and Baile are the top 2 for most of the people but yeah only one list repeated
There seems to be two groups, the competitors (me and Aurora) that value Pom-Pom and the story mode people (everyone else) that value Baile.
I judged mine on their association with real life dances and how much I like those.
Senzu then Baile then Pa’u then Pom Pom
i wonder how the shiny alola pokemon would look like (except exxegutor cause he has the same color scheme)
Better not be like Shiny Bergmite…
Now we just need a gold/silver/crystal VC rerelease before sun and moon
I’m glad for the new Alolan Exeggutor because before today I could never spell its name correctly. 😛
Same!
Wow you too?
Guys, Minior HAS to evolve into a bigger one called Grandior. (Why do all my fakemon end up with names that are play on words?)
I was thinking Mightior
O I like that too..
Because puns are superior. (see what I did there?)
“serperior” 😐
Rhyperior :v
+1
Well, that’s the (sad? amusing?) nature of Pokemon naming…
I like this a lot
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470098767106.png
BRUH THIS IS AWESOME
I NEED THIS!
That is supa sweet
I need this.
Your comment is mine but less excited lol
I’d think mine is more intense though since es so quiet xD
*intense whispering*
What evolutionary advantage would this have over a Kalosian Aegislash?
swimming fun times!
It’s blue
Da ba dee da ba die?
I had to read this out loud to get it. xD
I actually had to look up the lyrics to get it right xD I don’t think about what the actual words are spelled as when I sing it xD
Omg why ??
I had to take the opportunity, it probably would never happen again!
It has all the swag now.
Instead of possessing a sword the ghost possessed a hawaiian weapon maybe?
Thank you for asking the sensible question.
GODDAMMIT PEOPLE! MAKE SOME LORE!
So it’s not a ghost anymore? Has it regained sentience? Does it hate humanity? Where will it strike first?
I would change the steel type personally being that it is no longer made of steel.
It should be Ghost Water. It has no steel at all.
The art is good, the typing makes no sense.
Mallow is waifu
You speak the truth
But Kiawe <3
Sophocles is husbando of the year 😛
Which is why Ash better dump Serena for Mallow ameright?
Well it’s nothing new, Ash dumps about one girl per gen.
And then dump her for Misty
I know I would
alola ninetales and sandslash look like delta pokemon from pokemon insurgence (thesuzerain)
Yeah I noticed that too. I’m glad that the main games adopted this mechanic though.
I would say they are like Pokemon-EX in the TCG, for something sliiiiightly more official.
yeah but alola forms more mature concept.
Idea- can we come up with alternative names for the alola variants?
Snowshrew, Snowslash Exneckutor…
….all the yes
im naming mine Exneckutor now…
I thought of iceshrew but I like yours better lmao
Iglooshrew, Slashicle, “Glaceon Replacement”
EDIT: Cococutor
Vulpix – Flurrice (flurry + ice)
Ninetales- Fractales (fractal + tales) lol idk
Frostales? maybe
There is a yokai named frostail :p
damn you yokai
I thought of that at first but decided on fractales… but I don’t remember why already
ICENINE!
yes!!
Im so glad you got it, I was worried I might look like a fool lol
lol no worries man snowslash and icenine it is
Drageggxecute?
Blueshrew!
Frostpix, Icetales, lololol
I prefer lolwat
I prefer lel 😉
So from the toxic Pokemon community on the Official Channel, this pretty much sums up overall reactions in fandom communities other than here as a whole:
Alola Forms: A lot of people like them
Gym Leader Removal: Many people against
Gumshoos: Donald Trump jokes
Other new Pokemon: Ignored
Z-Moves: Dragonball Z jokes and some people angry about them
This is why we can’t have nice things!
You forgot about
All the Starters End-Evolution: Everyone hates them, and they really don’t feel like they belong in Pokemon.
I actually found that gym leader removal was recieved pretty positively (from the official channel)
this is only based on what i read and from the trailer but what i get from the island challenge is that you have your four trial captains which will give you trials and possibly battle you (they gave them a typing so i believe in some point you would battle them). These trial captains are the replacement of gym leaders imo. totem pokemon are found at the end of each trial so they are basically road blocks. you would probably fight alot of them. When you finish your trial you battle the kahuna which is basically is the replacement of the elite four. Now, we still dont know if the kahunas will have unique teams or monotypes. I want to say unique teams but then if you dont battle the trial captains maybe their typings are the team the kahuna would have. Now my question is: Is there a champion at the end or you automatically become the champion when you beat the four kahunas
I think that kahunas+captians are the eight gymleaders replacement and that the elite 4 wil either be nonexistent or you must battle the 4 kahunas again consecutively with them having stronger teams and the champion will be another unrevealed character
Do we really know if these are real? The gyms were the only thing they got right, correct? Including the already “leaked” starter images in your leak does not verify the whole thing. I could make something up, say something unheard of like no gyms or whatever, include the already leaked image and boom, I’m verified right? Or was there more that this leaker got correct. Not trying to sound cynical, and I know you wouldn’t post this if it was just a hunch or a whim, but I’m just trying not to get my hopes up for some of these amazing sounding pokemon if they turn out to be fake.
Look carefully ….Mallow is the evidence.
Of the picture they didnt reveal.
The girl who sitting down close to Litten final evo it look very similar to Mallow ….do u got it now?
I know that. But the person who leaked the rest of the info did not reveal the picture with Mallow and the starters. The leaker just said the pic was real, which I could have said in my own “leak.” The no gyms thing is something they got right but like I said, it could be something they came up with.
Chinese leaker said the objective of the game is to form a League of your own then the Elite Four appears. Didn’t mention anything about trials. But because it was a translation from Chinese, it’s possible it may have been mistranslated. So I’m not sure exactly how we are going go about this League forming they say.
I hated the “create your own league thing” but this trials seem like a cool and fun spin for gyms and gym leaders in alola
Yeah. And it appears there could be more than one Trial Leader on one Island. Mallow and Kaiwe appear on the same Island…
Proof?
PLDH.net’s Twitter.
Here’s the link: https://twitter.com/PLDHnet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Thanks!
I know I stated earlier that Mallow’s locations in the Japanese trailer line up with the island to the right of Melemele (leading me to believe that’s Akala Island) and the volcano there is the only fiery one, I feel
Yeah mallow seems to be to the west part and kiawe in eastern volcanic part of the second island from right to left
Yeah, I’m glad that this is what the no gyms thing turned out to be.
Me too really looking forward to learn more about these trials
I am too. Hopefully we’ll learn more next week.
I hope that if we don’t get a league post game, we get to go back to Kalos. While I like the new trial system, I hope that we get something to do postgame, and one of these seems to be likely.
So do you think we’ll get badges for beating the trials?
Sadly no. I liked the badges.
I think it will be badges with a new name 😀
That is a good question. After all, they used the Badges as a cap for preventing Level 100 Pokemon from coming in early in the game. I wonder how they’ll go about that.
The captians all have a sort of cross symbol with the color of their types so i guess its possible
That’s a good point! Looks like they combine to form a flower of sorts.
I think so. Why else would we have the trainer card? Besides, their pendants look reminiscent of badges.
I just remembered… you and me, Ocean Vivillon?
Oh I meant to respond to you on the forums earlier! Oops. I’ll have to add you real quick!
Do you mind it being called Prismillon (the French name) though? If you do, I’ll be giving you a scatterbug or an egg instead.
Oh I don’t care about the name. I’ve got a few French ones already.
The FC you posted is giving me an invalid message. :/
1435-4722-4134
Whoops. 🙂
Perhaps, they might be badges in all but name.
I like this one too!
http://pre15.deviantart.net/b184/th/pre/i/2016/214/e/3/lilligant___alola_form_by_locomotive111-dacby5t.png
Dancer would be a better fit imo
Sweet! Maybe it could have slightly different colors to represent fire though… Like more autumnal leaves.
…….it barely looks different
Es el punto.
muérdeme
Como digas *bites you* lel
I WANT THIS I WANT THIS LILLIGANT IS ONE OF MY FAV GRASS TYPES GIMME PLEASE
YES MAKE HER COMPETITIVE USEFUL
We’ve already seen the front of the pendant thing. I bet there will be a back making for a total of 8 Island Captains, 2 per Island.
alolan exeggutor 1997!!
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/66/JPJungleBoosterbox.jpg
While I think Megas will be reserved to postgame so as not to overshadow the new Z move mechanic, I do think we will get some new megas in the coming months. There’s over six news updates if they keep at this pace, and either that’s a lot of pokemon to reveal or they’re gonna overdo it on explaining and expanding on the features already revealed. How many more new features can we expect? We will probably get new alola forms in the near future but megas are on the horizon, I’m telling you now! 🙂
Next wish: Evil Team in game please. Removing Gym Leaders has already crossed a major boundary for me. *Prays to Arceus for Evil Team*
I doubt they would remove evil teams. Plus I think this whole gym leader thing is just exclusive to Alola. I’m sure in the future they’ll keep gyms.
This is just something to showcase the traditional and cultural aspect of Alola and their lore.
I dunno… it feels like there’s still at least 4 “gyms” and 8 “gym leaders” by other names… (Trials / Trial Captains + Kahunas).
I think they could maybe remove evil *teams*, but there still needs to be an Antagonist. The story needs to have a meaning.
LILLIE.
Jk I think it’ll be a big business man that wants to build huge condos over natural and areas of flowing nature. So basically Donald Trump…
Gumshoos?
Seems possible. Lillie is already set up to be an antag/rival in terms of ideals. It seems unlikely that she’s the only “evil” person though. There have to be at least a handful
Plot twist: trial captians are the evil team :0
After defeating them, they surround you and say, “for the night’s watch.”
Also, these dont count as the ice types I’ve been wanting. I want an original pokemon please! 🙂 Do we still not have a dark?
No Dark yet
No. 🙁 Hopefully some new dark combos soon..
We want DaaaaaaaaarrrKKkkkk ……but I am ok if litten final evo end up fire-dark type.
Since the fire/fairy rumor was wrong about Ninetales, kind of hoping that the abra line turns dark instead of fighting… like some black magic sh*t
YES, that would be sweet
My poor ice/dark soul. 🙁
Somebody find and animate a gif of A. Exeggutor wiggling I s neck back and for left and right and add this music
https://youtu.be/dyMXYE_50Ts
I forgot about this nightmare fuel.
Lightweight
BRILLIANT
I knew I was a genuis
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/153/725/c9b.jpg
BEAUTIFUL
Seems legit i can see this happening in game while you walk around
Holy shit O.O
Was not expecting that lmao
I will train a Bewear if that means I can make it do that
Theoretically…it definitely could. I could maybe see that happening in the manga. There is some brutal shit in there
OMFG I CAN’T WITH THIS COMMUNITY
ROTFL I was not expecting that! O^O
Regrets creating an account…
No no stay we are fun <3
We just happen to do silly stuff too xD
And horrific acts of violence
Look at it!!!!!
oh I’m looking at it O_O
LOOK AT IT HARDER, HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FATALITY
This is the best thing I’ve seen all day. XD
The tail-head’s like “Ehh… Who needs ’em”
*the tail head is the real head, the others are decoys*
Yes
ART <3
Welp, Ash-greninja es a mega evolution, so that mean megas will be there, awesome! The z-moves are most likely going to balance the power shift between normal pokemon and mega ones, makes alot of sence, and plus i like the mega evo mechanic.. coming from someone who goes way back to pokemon Yellow
Wh-what?
Pretty sure it’s not a mega :T
I hope we can battle the trial captains. Otherwise, there would be no point in having the specialize in types.
I agree… i really really hope we battle them.
For some, I doubt can be battled during the trials themselves but they can probably be battled post-game
I think after you do their task you’ll have to battle them. But I think they’ll only have a couple of pokemon on their team…
Three like every recent gym leader (and hala based on the trailer) ?
I’m suprised to see Hala only have 3. I would think he would have 5 or 6 if kahuna’s are replacing the Elite Four…
No, I think he’s more on the level of the 2nd or 3rd gym leader. Those usually have 3 pokemon.
Well, how it works if I read it correctly stated that kahunas are faced after you finish all the trials in one island and you need to beat them to move onto the next island.
So Hala having three is not too ridiculous for the 1st kahuna 🙂
That’s true!
My theory is that they double as the remaining 4 “gym leaders” and elite four, after you complete all islands trial challenges you must battle all four kahunas which have a stronger team and when you beat them consecutively the champion reveals itself and challenges you
What if: you get to choose certain trial leaders and make your own league post game, and you can battle the chosen ones.
cool
I’m expecting a 3 hour long video from GameXPlain tomorrow
*30 hour
Thank you it was an error
o___o
lol XD
I can’t wait <3
I’m interested to see what they find 🙂
Yes i wanna see what ye olde analysis machine finds
Imagine this:
The antagonist is an old wealthy dude that wants to make more money with alolas tourism and uses the motto “make alola great for tourist again”…and you all know where this is going and what his main pokemon will be 😉
And his Wife would have a chatot with
-Mirror Move
-Thief
-Snatch
-Copycat
HAHAHAHA
Yes! Hahahaha lel
Bruxish?! jk 😉
I would actually like this though.
Haha bruxish could be part of his team too with those big teeth and all xD
Refresh:
Hahahaha
And it’s just a Gumshoos.
Whoops I didn’t see the main Pokemon thing and now I feel stupid. ._.
Its ok no worries xD
What if his name is… Bonding, Mr. Bonding. XD
Just noticed that the starter evos all have the number 3 drawn on their concept arts
I must say, I feel like all the new characters are more memorable than X and Y characters…. and we haven’t even played the games yet….
Ikr they have that gen 5 character feeling to them
Yeah, it makes me so happy =v=
YASSS
Wait…there were characters in X&Y..?
LOL
Wait . . . There was an XY?
Yeah what even is an “XY”????
What even is a pokeymanz?
are you talking about digimon?
Isn’t this gen 6? Weren’t the last game B2W2?
I was under that impression as well..
Isn’t this gen 2? They haven’t made a game since RB!
I can name all the x and Y gym leader off the top of my head.
Have no clue why though.
I probably could given a few minutes. 😛
I can but they don’t come nearly as easily as the others.
I have to agree with that one. I always struggle to remember the gen 6 gym leaders. I like how gen 5 put the gym leaders into the plot more. They need to hype the gym leaders up more my giving them more interaction or making npcs rave on about them more. They should at least get cutscenes or something.
To be fair though, gen 6’s elite four were more interesting than gen 5. They should have played a bigger part in the story at an earlier point. Like making the character bump into them part way through like they did for Diantha (though to be fair it was really obvious Diantha was the champion). A lot of the time it feels like these people never have a life outside their job. That’s one of the reasons I liked what Ruby and Sapphire did with Wattson and making one of the leaders the player’s father.
Also why the hell is it called a Gumshoos
When no one is looking it puts on little shoes…made of entirely gum it finds under local benches
Gumshoe is old slang for a detective + mongoose
Well, you learn something new every day 🙂
Was having a hard time with that name origin xD
I actually just learned it this morning. It was a simple find. I just googled the first few letters and it came up.
Ah I see 🙂 Well it make sense, considering its info says it’s very patient and waits for its prey, plus that pose.
And it’s tufts of fur resemble a trenchcoat!
Yungoos was harder for me to comprehend lol.
Isnt it young+mongoose?
Yes but the missing “e” made me so confused.
Don’t you mean the missing “o”?
The e at the end of mongoose.
Oh cool!
Because it is a corruption of donald trump obviously jk i think it is from mongoose+ Gum as in mouth and teeth gums?
I have to say it seems like GameFreak is trying to please the real pokemon fans (REAL pokemon fans) and at the same time are pleasing to genwunners and the other ones..
This is gonna be an EPIC game. Now all we need is a more challenging game than gen 6 games…
Why do genwunners even bother playing anymore? Shouldn’t they just be sat there playing nothing but the originals because ~every~ other generation is inferior?
I feel sorry for gen 2, never gets enough love.
Personally I think the only way to make things more challenging is to force people to have to participate in the alternate battle styles and not just make all battles single battles. I.e. make more trainers and gyms use double battles, rotation battles and inverse battles.
Also I feel like pointing out the games aren’t getting easier, the players are getting better. The only reason the originals are still difficult is because of how stupidly limiting they were due to the small range of moves and pokemon.
^^^ I totally agree about the getting easier thing!
Also GEN2 LOVER FOR LIFE HERE XD
Without gen 2 there would be no Espeon and Umbreon, no Slowking, no Scizor, no Dark type, no Steel type, no Heracross. Scary thoughts.
I AGREE GEN 2 FTW
But yes, you make a good point about difficulty. But still… It’s very easy to point out how X and Y hold your hand throughout the WHOLE game… And also, AI is more intelligent in past games….
I think the real thing that made X and Y easier was the change in the exp share mechanics, turning back the clock to what it did in gen 1, so by the time you reach a gym you don’t actually need to train for it, you can just walk right in and you’re effectively wielding 6 bazookas.
I dunno about the AI being worse than before, I think it’s more that older AI had it easy because there weren’t as many variables involved. If you limited yourself and the AI to gen 1 moves and pokemon you’d probably find things more difficult because you wouldn’t have all the fantastic strategies and abilities modern pokemon have. No skill swapping, very few really powerful moves, only one dragon move available etc.
Also I won’t go into all the details, but it’s pretty hard to write decent AI in the first place. And technically most game AI isn’t machine-learning AI, it’s just a bunch of heuristic algorithms so it’s bound to have flaws. (PS, I’m a programmer)
That’s awesome that your a programmer btw! I totally see where you come from now and I agree with you 100%. Also, if I may add, all gym leaders had the same number of Pokemon (3) which is extremely easy considering you have a party of 6 by the last few gyms…
Also elite four members were downgraded in party size.
Yeah, the number of pokemon thing is fair. I think giving all gym leaders 6 pokemon would definately up the ante. I usually have a party of 6 before hitting the first gym. Not 6 particularly good pokemon, but even if the main one gets knocked out, it probably only takes 3 mooks to get rid of the leader’s lesser pokemon.
The elite four was definately easier because of the number of options available, but I think it’s fair to say you’d still need to heal in between them. I don’t think there’s ever been a case where I’ve not had to heal during my first run of the elite four (later runs yes, but not the first run).
Well then… Aloha Alola
Buh dum tsss
Well today was……not very good, hopefully they reveal something good next week…
Good night
WUT?! I thought today was awesome!!!
I don’t like these variants
Now people are just going to go, variant this and variant that, and make outrageous types and forms for no damn reason
Well they already did that with megas.
And I hated the fan ones
Meh, I’ve seen better fan ones than some of the actual ones..
Feh half the time they were just what people wanted
It’s kind of like real life biology. And its no different than megas except it isn’t temporary
Hey, I didn’t see one “uggh I need more news soon” today. I need my fix of complaints!
What does the bray part in mudbray mean? Is it a type of donkey?
No, it’s the noise it makes.
Oooooh xD silly me
It’s the name for the sound a donkey makes.
Haha yeah i feel really dumb now
We can be dumb together. I didn’t know either.
Yes! Dumb powers combine!
Congratulations you now both have the combined intelligence of a dry brick
*Turns into Patrick Star*
Bray is a annoying sound
It could be a lullaby if you try hard enough
https://youtu.be/gROO7xSTxfY
Perfect now i will sleep like a baby
A disturbed baby
http://i.imgur.com/FoZlxOw.jpg
“Ninetales (Fire/Fairy)”
So much for that, huh?
I mean, it got Fairy…. I think it was a mistake.. Or this could just very easily be fake…
Mistranslation?
“Ice” to “Fire”? That’s a mistranslation only Bulbapedia could make.
Either:
1)purposely wrote it that way so that game freak didnt take it down or sued him/her
2)he got mistaken with some types
3)this leaker was just trolling but got extremely lucky (this one is unlikely lel)
I feel Gumshoos isn’t that fat
Or particularly hairy…
Exactly xD
Nor that hairy
But it is ugly
Lol like Mr. Trump?
Uglier
Whoah….
Wow…. Is that humanely possible?
Trump supporters be like: Well…. at least he’s richer than you
I might be too if I had a small loan of a million dollars
I look better tho. Looks>Money
Tell that to Donald Trump and his wife.
Dear Dr. Donald Trump PhD and Melania…. Trump?,
Look at this bootyful face
~Sincerely, Green
Isn’t that a Melania Trump quote?
Lol
HAHAHA
Yes, pretty ugly
Could easily be an overlooked thing. This in no way discredits the fact that 2 of these leaks (which are quite bold predictions, seriously, new forms? No gyms?) came true.
Ash-Greninja – meh, but fine
Rattata & Raticate – Dark type is fine, but I really hope Dark Raticate looks cooler than regular Raticate. Regular Raticate is very meh
Butterfree – Finally a way to explain why it uses confusion
Abra etc – Erm… I… I cannot begin to imagine how that’s going to wrok
NIdoking & Nidoqueen – Finally. The ground typing never made sense.
Growlithe & Arcanine – I could have accepted ice, but I’m struggling with water
Doduo & Dodrio – Erm… Wat? They don’t have any arms. Oh god, please tell me the extra heads aren’t going to become fists D: Why Gamefreak, why!?
I can live with more furfrou styles, though lets be honest, nobody uses Furfrou with battling. If it had better moves it would make sense for contests, but otherwise it’s just another normal type.
The new cat pokemon sounds interesting. Mainly because it’s a cat, but the alternate forms thing sounds cool.
Snowman pokemon should be good. Somehow I get the feeling it’s going to be the ice equivalent of Gourgeist and Trevenant.
Alternate final evolutions for starters would drive me nuts, but I think it’s a good idea anyway.
I’m not sure I’m happy about having the island trials instead of gyms. I know people think the gym system is stale and the latest gym leaders have been a bit unimpressive, but I think the answer to that is more gyms, not less. And maybe make the gyms more like dungeons rather than baby’s first puzzle.
I’m ok with the grass and water starter, but if that’s the fire starter’s final form I’m going to cry profusely.
Diamond stones sound like they might be an ok thing depending on what they do ‘exactly’.
I’m cool with all those as new pokemon ideas. Except maybe the sea cucumber, those things are weird.
Werewolf sounds interesting. Inb4 it’s called “Rockwolf”.
Mashadow is a reasonably name. What is the unique typing though? It can only be ghost-fighting, ghost-normal or ghost-rock since all the others have been done before.
Ghost/fighting is a possibility I didn’t consider. Sounds cool. I agree with pretty much everything else you said though!
I went out of my way to list the possibilities and eliminate the ones that had already existed 😛 I genuinely thought there would be more, but thanks to Mimikyu, Golurk and Aegislash…
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking these things though.
Abra’s line getting fighting type actually makes sense to me. Back before the Physical/Special split, plenty of people and I think the games themselves liked to use the Elemental Punches on their Alakazam. A fighting type Alakazam, with Iron Fist hopefully, would make perfect sense as a nostalgia thing :S
Erm… I hate to break it but that would have been bad even back then.
Physical and special moves were different even back then, meaning Alakazam would have still had poor attack and good special, meaning its physical moves would have been weaker than its special moves (but presumably it couldn’t learn many elemental special moves, so people made do).
The only change made was special splitting into sp attack and sp defence in gen 2, that was it.
Uhh, no, prior to Gen 4 we had Physical types (Normal, Rock, Steel, Fighting, etc) and Special types (Fire, Water, Grass, Electric, Dark, etc.) This means a lot of things were very different like Alakazam used to be great with the elemental punches, while Hitmonchan was awful with them. Hyper Beam used to be a physical move, so when it became special that’s why Giga Impact was introduced. Etc etc.
See my answer to Wicked Omega.
But Electric, Ice and Fire used to be special, before Gen 4 separated the attacks themselves into physical/Special.
Huh, fair enough, I thought the category system had always existed.
Still doesn’t justify a fighting type Alakazam though, they’ll need to come up with some reasonable lore.
My brain won’t let me call it “amazing Pokemon games, best ever” yet. It looks great, but I did that with XY, and it was a huge letdown, so my I’m subconsciously keeping my expectations low.
I mean, most of us aren’t jumping to conclusions. But it LOOKS to be amazing. So, hopefully it is 😀
I know, I just got overly hyped for XY, and it didn’t live up.
I think we all did. 🙁
I feel like that’s why I can’t build up as much hype this time around.
That’s why I say great most of the time, cause I know it will be great, at the very least 🙂
I honestly get annoyed with all this hate on XY. They were fantastic in their time; only in hindsight are people dissing them. Besides, anything that followed the tremendousness of BW2 was bound to boot feel as complete.
^^^ Express yourself Wes! because you are speaking the truth! (at least for me)
Thanks! I always try to play devil’s advocate anyway, but I truly do think this is a simple case of hindsight bias.
Definitely feel you there, biases can suck at times 🙂
I can see where you are coming from there. The Pokemon are great, I’ll give it that, but I can’t get past the lack of difficulty in the game. Sadly that one thing is enough for me. Maybe that’s why I’m scared that SM would be too easy, because it was enough to kill it for me. But on top of that Mega evolution was half baked, and the characters were flat.
I’ll admit, it did seem easier. But did you stop to think that maybe the games aren’t getting easier, but in fact it’s who’s getting more skilled. It is aimed at younger kids, like my brother who struggled through X.
Nope, I still have trouble with parts of old games, so it can’t be that I’m getting better.
Ok I’ll give you that, but it is harder to sell a game that’s so difficult that kids get turned off when they can’t get past the second gym. It’s all about the money.
yeah honestly kids today I honestly think wouldn’t get very far in the old games and the new games they have trouble with as well but they can at least play them, it may be easier for us older folks, but I wouldn’t want the kids in my life to have to give up on a game because its too hard
Yeah, I can definitely relate, cause even now, if I get stuck in a game, I stop playing, sometimes for a bit, sometimes longer, sometimes for good. Depends on my mood.
I’m one childish adult I guess xD
The sad truth. I feel like it doesn’t mean anything if it’s too easy though. There is a difference between making it kid friendly and making it too easy. XY levels were not acceptable. The AI was absolutely abysmal. Not to play the “back in my day” card, but you’re right, it’s a different world than when we were kids, it’s harder to guage their interest these days.
It’s how I feel with the hate on both that and DP. People complain it’s slow all the time, and I get that, but it was the first DS game, it wasn’t going to be perfect. Plus, as a preteen at that time, it didn’t turn me off.
I found DP’s downfall to be in pace. From each gym it takes awhile until the last few where it goes SUPER fast.
I can get that, but pacing never really bothered me, especially when I was younger. But I can see why it might cause issues.
And I was talking more with the ‘it’s slow’ complaints, as that’s the main reason I see everywhere. People sometimes like to throw that excuse and nothing else, and it gets bothersome.
Pacing is not an issue for me honestly. Things like a bad plot arc and difficulty are though.
Which is why Gen 6 was the worst IMO
The preteen comment makes me wonder how close in age we are… I won’t put my age online so the world will never know..
Percy is actually 300 years old
Yep, I just happen to look 20 😛
I’m a vampire guys :3
Nah. You’re just 5 Gnomes in a hoodie.
NORMAN
Yea
Bro did you read the journal released by alex hirsch?
Well you’ll know if the rest of us say our ages! 😛
I’m 18. I really don’t care if people know, because I genuinely believe the whole “age is just a number” stuff
17 here!
I’m 87.
Wow you’re so young! How were you allowed on the internet?
My parents hardly even come down in the basement, I pretty much do whatever.
Wow, when I was your age my parents were always on my case.
People always say I act mature for my age, that’s why I have so many privileges.
Pic of Ithsme’s parents given his age:
Bet you chocolate that this is true 😉
They live so long because they rub it on their faces.
Looking good for your age 😛
Not a day over 86!
I’m 13. Yep.
Wait.. Preteen? how old are you? (u don’t have to answer if you don’t want to state your age on here)
I’m 20 🙂 But when I got DP, it was already out for a bit, and I remember playing it when I was in 5th-6th grade (I wasn’t on the Internet a lot so I wouldn’t play attention to when games released and stuff)
Oh XD I’m 15…
LOL all this time I though you were younger than me, yay 90s kids eh? lol
xD I got some 90s in me :3
I lived a few months in the ’90s. Does that count? 😛
sure lol
Well, the 90s mentality sort of continued for a bit during the 2000s I feel, so it counts for me xD
*refresh*
The sad thing is I remember when that film was premiering on the Disney Channel…
???
I always say I think like a ’90s kid, but then the real ’90s kids are always quick to defend their title.
Eh, being a ’90s kid is cool and all, but it’s not worth being all that vicious about it 😉
I am also 20 :O
I think I said before that I was as old as Pokemon, but I guess people forgot after a few months xD
I don’t blame them, it’s not really important anyways :3
well what can you expect percy, we’re all gettin old, our minds are not what they used to be ;P
yeah yeah, I’m so old, my memory’s failing me…
….Who are you people again? 😛
The trademarks for Red and Green were actually filed on my date of birth! I was destined to be a fan
You got one bamf destiny :3
YES 🙂
I feel they skimped on story in favor of graphics.
I want Shellos and Gastrodon to get Alola forms. More tropical Sea Slugs
that will be poison type.
Slugush and Slugooze
name didn’t change.
Yeah, They need to have really bright colors to signal they’re poisonous. I’m gonna design one.
I mean the are the og of getting forms based on local so why not
Preferably with nicer colours than hot pink and barf green.
Yeah. They need to be bright colors that signal that they’re not food, though.
Deep blue and yellow would be good choices.
What if Gumshoos is hunting the Alolan rattata? It is dark type supposedly, which is a so called evil type, so the detective makes sense. Just my thoughts on the matter.
Oooooooo, interesting <3 Although, didn't it say in its info that the Pokemon it was sent to take care of are nearly gone and because of that, they are now the pests? That would mean the Dark Rattata would be rare
I should double check.
I can’t find it. Odd. Where did I hear that then? I must be crazy xD
I remember seeing that too though. Maybe we’re both crazy!
:O Pokemon conspiracy?!
I was kinda hoping for the target of Yungoos to be the Alola variant of Ekans, but seeing as Mongooses were taken to Hawaii to control the rat population, I have to agree that it’s most likely the Rattata Variant that’s going to be targeted :S
You are a genius who can see in the future. I love you.
Is it me or does anyone else get the feeling there’ll be more Trail Captains?. I mean there’s evidence to suggest that both Mallow and Kiawe live on the second island.
It’s not just you.
*raises hand* Me! 😀
I think they’ll definitely be more than 4. I think they are only revealing four to keep the other 4 a secret. They don’t want to reveal too much,.
I recon Lana is on MeleMele island, then Mallow and Kiawe on the second island (Akala island I think it’s called). Sophocles on the third with maybe two more? Then who knows who the final island.
I wouldn’t have thought so.
There are 4 islands and the trial captains are all wearing a 4-pronged charm.
Don’t forget though, for every trial captain there’s a Kahuna, so they’re probably counting them together to bring the total to 8.
I am hoping that Lurantis’ shiny form is purple. THAT WOULD BE SOOO DOPE.
Praying it isn’t a green barf shiny
it would be better the the “is this the shiny?” shines that we get sometimes
HAHAHA tru
I think the days of green barf shinies are over my friend.
yussss
Noivern was kind of barf green a little
I thought of that, the bath green shiny phenomenon though is where Pokemon that are brown or purple turn a horrible green because it was the nearest pallate. Noivern’s shiny has its colors switched around and its design already had the green in it so it doesn’t count in my mind.
Ooh ok then
And Gumshoos is Orange
It’ll probably be pure white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenopus_coronatus
OMFG I have a bet. I bet when the official move sets for Gumshoos comes out he will be able to learn Trump Card, if this is true then it really will be a nod to the orange bastard himself
YES
HAHAHA and don’t forget the games come when election month will be present.
Such ugly final starter forms ugh :’c
Going to have to go with Rowlet now since they ruined poor Litten by making another ugly super bulky wrestling monstrosity. Weren’t infernape and emboar enough, can’t someone do something more creative than this, rghhh
I know this is going to sound like standard over reacting whining but this is the first time in all the gens that not a single final evo appeals to me.
Blaziken was fire-fighting too.
I wouldn’t even put this one in the same category though.
I liked Blaziken and Infernape, and Emboar was mostly better than the alternatives, but this wrestling tiger is beyond awful. It’s a sad day when I think a water starter looks better than a fire starter.
Blaziken was the first (and should’ve been the last, at least for a while!), so I don’t bear it any grudges.
I was a snivy fan on the emboar front, haha.
I swear, if Gumshoos was brought to Alola region to run the Ludicolos out of the island. Lolol
Or the baile style oricorios :O
Well that’s more Spain than Mexico.
Yeah i was thinking that aswell but i wasnt sure haha
El Flamenco!
Is that the one that uses castañuelas? If it is i really like that type of dance
That’s what it’s associated with, yes
El deporto!
*Gumshoos not me*
So many Trump jokes can be made 🙂
Don’t you mean the mega medicham?
(Or is that too controversial to be an acceptable joke?)
Can someone please clarify this image below (refresh if can’t see). This is from the Chinese leaker. Or someone taking the Chinese leaker’s info and mixing it with lies? Or a third leaker all together? Because this article doesn’t mention S.S. Anne or the characters from previous games returning, & Time working differently in each of the versions. Latter of which I’m worried about most. I don’t want Moon to be all darkness and Sun to be all daylight.
I believe it’s holding a Machoke and spinning (as in the picture above that seems to be a Machamp on his shoulder).
Guys i think this charm thing is the “badge” for the trials, i think for each trial you complete you get a color in the charm or maybe its just a charm to signify you are participating xD
*rf if you cant see the image
I want a real one so bad <3
Looks like a keychain to me.
Alolan klefki confirmed? Haha
Lol
Wait…. but look at the shape of the Keychain….. It’s a triangle!
(Refresh)
Le intense gasp :O
Matches the colors of the islands theory, as does oricoro(spelled it wrong I know)
Likely the “Badge Case” for this generation.
We better be able to eventually buy them here in the US.
Looks like Electric, Fire, Psychic and Ghost… Could be the forms of the guardians of each island as well (which reflect the 4 different Oricorio types)…
Wow today has been a great day of speculation and news but it’s time for me to hit the proverbial hay! Gnight!
Good night! 🙂
Haha same i need my sleep g’nite
One last request from you Anon.
Yes?
I know a lot of people have told you this, but you’ve become a regular here. I think you’re the Guest with the most comments…. so…………………………… make an account man 😉
Good night 🙂
Haha sure, i just need to come up with a name maybe tomorrow youll se me again but an account
That’s what I like to hear 🙂
Good night to you as well!
Cya Tomorrow 🙂
Night 😀 <3
YES GOODNIGHT!
Well I think I’m going to hit the Rapidash hay. That’s enough excitement for one day. It’s been very fun speculating with you all! Good night everyone! 😀
G’nite! 🙂
Well. I gotta go too. Cya.
The bad part about working midnight shift is I miss all the chatting about the news. By the time I can talk about it with everyone, most of you guys are in bed lol
Sorrrrrry
I mean, Im usually up late, after babies go to bed, gotta have a little relax time before going to bed myself
Preach!
It’s 4am here ftr.
I stay up later in my time, so yeah 🙂
“two evolutions for starters” gender evolution perhaps?
Cue the SJWs 😀
They lurk…
nobody on this site cares if they were to have gender variations, what they care about is the comments that femininity is always a female trait and cant be anything else, thats it, there are no SJW’s here
Frankly if femininity is no longer a female thing then we need a new word for it.
ever hear of masculine women and feminine men? We all have feminine and masculine traits in us, no matter what sex we are. I usually just think of masculine and feminine as the french do, because I mean, yeah they still somewhat relate to sex but are not locked to it.
My point is it’s a misnomer. If ‘femininity’ isn’t strictly a ‘female’ thing, it has no business having ‘female’ as its root.
Personally I think everyone is barking up the wrong tree with this gender stuff. Sometimes I think the best solution would be to have no genders, just sexes and personalities.
Also that french thing is a horrible analogy, go back and relearn french. Le français c’est compliqué.
Ok first, yes I agree with you on the no genders thing would be the best solution.
Second, did you really have to be rude about the french thing? :/
(french was never a big interest of mine, which is why I took japanese instead, and tbh japanese is way easier)
Ironically a lot of people say that, on both sides of the ‘gender revolution’ fence. (Sadly though it doesn’t solve the case of people with extra chromosomes or when people insist on being referred to by different pronouns.)
Frankly if gender isn’t tied to sex then it has no meaning, it’s just an aspect of personality. Hence why tomboys are a thing. (Or were at least, they tend to get glossed over these days. It’s completely possible to be a tomboy, be heterosexual and not have gender issues.)
Sorry, but it really wasn’t a very good analogy. The gendering of french is actually very strict, you can’t just swap between them. Everything has a gender, and it’s either masculine, feminine or plural. (In comparison to say German, where neuter is also possible). And there are some very obscure edge cases. It has been at least 5 years since I was actively learning French, but I remember that much.
Hai, nihongo wa sugoi.
That would be interesting. This generation has been full of surprises already so why not surprise us more
Where is this stated? why is no one taking this as serious as the rest if the rumors?
“Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter” – last point in the article above the evo pictures.
i dont have the chinese rumors link tho
I really like the sandshrew and sandslash alolan variations. The only thing I don’t like about them is that they will be slow apparently which means death is imminent for them at all times
i love its typing! hopefully is not that slow or it has very high defenses and hp
I hope so! They look really cool. Some people think Kiawe will have a fire type Marowak which if that’s true, I can’t wait to see that!
I wonder how vulpix will evolve in alola.
i completely forgot that vulpix evolves from a stone. New evolution stone perhaps?
Ice Stone / Ice Rock / Leveling Up are all options.
They could make a new evolution stone for ice-types
Like what they’ve been avoiding for many many generations now 😀
Exactly!
The same way as always.
Nope, I don’t see any flaw in this whatsoever.
Meanwhile, ponder this:
Until you unlock the ability to trade with old generations, you will never encounter a fire-type Vulpix or Ninetails.
What has science done?
Surprise us more Gamefreak and redo the entire type chart??
the most exciting part of the alolan pokemon are the new types, movepool and abilities and some stats change they may bring. heck it may be even better and more powerful than some megas
WAIT I COULD GET THE FIRE/FLYING RAPIDASH I’VE WANTED.
I’d love to see a fire/grass victreebel in alola or atleast a better move pool. Maybe even a fighting/bug Ledian!
Sounds cool. I agree
Fighting bug Ledian I can agree with.
Fire grass victreebel is upsetting.
I’d be fine with a fire-grass pokemon, but altforming loads of Kanto pokemon for the sake of it is silly.
I’ll thank you for suggesting a non-Kanto pokemon for alt forming though (Ledian).
If not victreebel then maybe Cherrim 🙂 it have an alternate form in the sun already so that would be cool. Also I want something done to help Ledian as much as possible. It’s one of my favorite bugs but it’s just so terrible
I could live with that, but they’d have to stray away from its cherry blossom design.
Personally I was thinking of a new tiki pokemon made of wood, with vines for arms/legs and it breaths fire. Two-three hawaii tropes in one pokemon 😀
For some reason I’m also now imagining Tangrowth using flamethrower. Scary.
That sounds awesome as well! I just really want to see a bunch of unique typings this generation. We’ve had a few revealed so far but hopefully a lot more
I just thought of something regarding z-moves. I wonder if they will be special or physical? I have a feeling based on the trailer that each type (hopefully this includes normal type… looking at you hidden power) will only get 1 z-move. so, what if a pokemon is better in Attack, like chesnaught, and only has bloom doom as an option? you may as well not even bother. this also applies to other pokemon, off the top of my head: Gyarados, Kingler, Flareon…
I wondered this as well. Poor Flareon probably getting screwed over again
I really think they should make 2 for each type, both having the same effect, power, and accuracy, but one being physical and one special.
Definitely. Or program them to use the higher of the two attacking stats on the Pokemon to determine if it’s physical or not
i think they’ll make it work tho
I imagine it uses its best stat or stats are somehow irrelevant..or it hits the pokemon where it’s weakest
I was wondering, do you think it’s one move per battle per pokemon, or just one move per battle period?
I think it will be one move per battle.
This also brings up the problem about Hidden power just being special. Why not make a physical Hidden Power(Hidden Force?) and a special Return attack?
hidden strength would be amazing. that move would seriously singlehandedly change the metagame.
It would help Pokemon physical Pokemon with terrible coverage tremendously!
Why is no one taking the two starters rumor as serious as the rest? Did the same person not say it?
No, it was someone else I believe.
Did we get a better look at the other side of the bracelet. I’m sure that’s where mega stones go
That keychain’s colors plus Oricorio’s colors/ typing make me think the Tapu’s will follow suit. Fire/ Fairy, Ghost/ Fairy, Psychic/ Fairy confirmed? Or at least the first typing of each? Plus, if they all have a “terrain” ability, we could be seeing new terrains!
I was thinking this as well, and I will always welcome another ghost/fairy :3
i think is based on the trial captians typing. after all each kakana (i dont know how to spell i forgot and i am to lazy to google right now) will have one because i remember tapu something being the old guy who gave you the pokemon and is the kakana of melele island
When I think about it… Final evo of water starters are never my favorite.. if anything I eviolite. Except Greninja which is one of my favorite starters in general.
If the Starters get 2 final evos, I could see this Being some of the last new information given
Greninja was the only time I chose a water starter and I regretted it because of that awful tongue scarf.
I just wish it’s bubbles didn’t because so irrelevant. I’d like to see them expand as pads so he can land on them in anime
Yeah, bubble scarf would be much better.
I find that usually the second form of a starter is better than the final form.
You kidding? The tongue scarf is the froggiest trait a frog ninja could have. It’s a great design choice.
It might be froggy, but it’s still attached to the inside of its mouth. Aside from the fact it can constantly taste its own face, how the hell is is supposed to eat?
quick flood the comments with your favorite final starter evolutions from each gen!
1:Venusaur
2:Meganium
3:Sceptile
4:Torterra
5:Serperior is love, Serperior is life
6:Chesnaught
7:Popplio, assuming these are real (lets face it, they pretty much are confirmed)
1.Venusaur
2. Feraligatr
3. Blaziken
4. Empoleon
5. Serperior
6. Greninja
Woot! Another Venusaur lover!
venusaur is awesome.
1.Blastoise
2.Feraligator
3.Sceptile
4……Infernape I guess
5.Emboar
6.Greninja
7.Mermaid
Charizard
Quilava/Croconaw
Sceptile
Infernape
Serperior
Greninja
Archer
1. No preference
2. Typhlosion > Meganium > Feraligatr
3. Sceptile = Blaziken > Swampert (I chose Sceptile in the original, but Blaziken in Emerald and Omega Ruby. I don’t like Sceptile’s mega evo)
4. Infernape > Torterra > Empoleon (Empoleon is the only one I don’t particularly like because it has flippers instead of arms)
5. Emboar > Serperior (not even gonna put the other one, it is scum)
6. Delphox > Chesnaut (I really regret choosing Greninja, tongue scarf is horrible and its signiture move is boring)
1: Charizard (2nd Blastoise)
2: Typhlosion (The other two are tied for second and are close)
3: Blaziken (2nd is Sceptile)
4: Empoleon (2nd is Infernape)
5. Serperior (2nd is Samurott)
6: Delphox (2nd is Greninja)
7: Rowlet’s (2nd is Popplio’s, although I will use Litten’s during my first playthrough in Moon cause I kind of promised myself I’d name it after my cat xD)
1:Venusaur
2:Typhlosion
3:Swampert
4:Infernape
5:Samurott (but I didn’t like them in general)
6:Chesnaught
7:Popplio (should it be real)
1: Charizard
2: Feraligatr
3: Sceptile
4: Infernape
5: Samurott
6: Delphox
Although I always choose the fire starter for the first playthrough
Its like.. they take too many risk with water starters and not enough with fire. Grass wild card
something I absolutely hate is all these poketubers calling the previous generation pokemon “Delta pokemon” its honestly driving me up the wall.
Wha? The hell is this idea of naming them that coming from? It sounds cancerous (if you’ll pardon the term, but i feel this is the exact context where the word’s internet meaning is appropriate).
It’s from a ROM hack called Pokemon Insurgence. It’s a type of Pokemon that act similar to our Alola forms. :3
Also, people keep saying Delta is also in the TCG, although I have no idea if they are right or not
it is in fact in the tcg
Ah ok, thanks :3 I don’t pay too much attention to the TCG, but I kept seeing it in earlier comments today, so yeah :3
Well yeah delta species were a thing for a bunch of ex expansions back in the gen III TCG, I fondly remember and still have a bunch of those. It was a fun concept back then and it made for cool cards, it’s kinda like regional variation (what we’re getting now) minus the biological underpinnings. Still confused about why they’re calling the old forms of pokemon that thought???
the thing that’s bugging me though is that everyone is treating these like alternate forms. Technically, they are normal pokemon.
yeah I see a lot of people thinking that they will just magically change from one to another at some point, I don’t think they really understand the concept
Depends how one defines alternate form. Technically east and west sea Gastrodon are alternate forms but they can’t change between each other.
They’re technically still “alternate” as well
its from the tcg, when certain pokemon got retyped they were called delta species
its from an old ruby/sapphire pokemon tcg expansion, Holon phantoms and ex delta species (as well as others around that block) where pokemon, reffered to as Delta species, had different typing than normal
OH you meant that’s what they’re calling the Alola forms! Soz I got confused, am pretty tired. Thought you meant that was what they were calling the orginal forms. Makes sense considering the delta species from the TCG (and pokémon insurgence apparently), but it’s an infuriating and lazy misnomer based on not doing the right research, not using your brain properly, or liking uncalled for buzzwords.
If we don’t get an electric/grass pineapple Pokemon this generation I will cry
electric grass is a really cool type combination.
Electric grass?
More like steel grass, those things are really spiky and hard to cut into.
True but I want a unique typing that’s not for a rotom form
That awkward moment when the Champion is actually Obama…
And the only way to bring down his pokemon is with Gumshoos!
So I guess we will never beat the champion then eh?
ugh that’s another really irritating thing. Gumshoos isn’t based on trump, doesn’t look anything like trump, and is very VERY slap-you-in-the-face-with-references obviously a detective.
I doubt an asian country would even care enough about him anyways to even consider him a relevant thought in their daily lives, the only reason he’s relevant in other countries (such as my own) is because we’re so worried about how he ever got where he is in the first place
I also doubt gamefreak would even do something that controversial. hell, we cant even get a kadbra card in the tcg for pete’s sake.
preeeetttyyyy much
If you think game freak is that oblivious to the world, I think the jokes on you. Nothing has been off limits when it comes to Pokemon designs and that includes horrible American politicians.
No one complained when they created a GOD Pokemon.
but everyone complained when the series came out. they will never, EVER target a single individual after what happened with Uri Geller.
Ironically Kadabra is both more famous and more well loved than Uri. Also Kadabra has a cool mustache.
I don’t think they are oblivious to the world, just think that they are more mature than that to give trump the satisfaction. And it is indeed based on something entirely different, the similarity is just a coincidence.
That being said… “God” is not a big deal because almost every culture has one, its not like they said, “this mf right here represents the Christian god, so everyone else can suck it” its just a god pokemon…
And if you’re gunna start arguing with me over this like you always do, just know my reply is “Bite me.” and go about your day.
(╹◡╹)凸
I don’t even know who you are and if I’m ever arguing with anyone it’s really not personal, I don’t know any of you from a whole in the wall except for the earthen guy because he makes himself so well known lol.
But said this to say, well to each it’s own and it really doesn’t matter to me what anyone think anyways. So yeah it’s obviously at least LOOSELY inspired by trump 🙂
I agree. It was in no way supposed to resemble Trump. I like the detective idea especially since it was introduced to Alola to rid the region of another rodent
these dark rattata and raticate, perhaps?
Possibly!
It looks more like trump than any other pokemon.
To be honest though, I don’t live in America, so I can make as many Trump jokes as I like, whether he wins or not doesn’t affect me.
I honestly feel sorry for America, at least in the UK we have alternatives to the main two parties (not that an alternative has ever won, but still, it’s nice to have alternatives).
I don’t care if you make trump jokes or not lol I believe that here in America we have freedom of speech, not “freedom of speech as long as you don’t hurt anyones feelings”. sure, its nice to consider it and all, but you are free to do it.
I mean, yeah thats a thing, but that doesn’t mean thats its without consequences, freedom of speech only goes so far, then people step in
not that thats an issue here, I’m just having a fun fact of the day moment
We have alternative choices here too, that just don’t normally have a chance either
Lol we have alternatives too
In that case, I feel sorry for them not getting mentioned in the news.
At least over here UKIP got a big run and the Greens are sometimes mentioned. Heck, the third main party even got to be in a coalition for a while.
(Let’s be honest though, nobody votes for the greens because they don’t have any policies for anything other than eco-friendliness and tree hugging. It’s like trying to make the salad the main part of the meal and skimping on the pasta.)
WHAT?!? F*ck them, you don’t just “skip the pasta”.
thats because the major american news outlets are nothing but crazy biased people fear mongering, they are not a legitimate form of journalism. *see fox news, and you will understand*
yeah, I can hardly remember the last time ive seen something positive and uplifting on the news. kinda a major downer, honestly.
sometimes in canada they play cat videos to lighten the mood on our news (which is funny because there is rarely anything bad on the news unless you’re in a major city, and even then its mild compared to the states)
kinda want to visit Canada that sounds awesome.
I haven’t seen any of what the American news places are saying. For some reason the UK news feels that we should care who gets Elected in America so they keep telling us about it.
yeah unfortunately in canada we have to care because they are our neighbors and trump being elected would sever a lot of ties between our countries
Libertarian and Green have the highest support rate this election than they have ever had. Our election was rigged though so we can’t do much regardless.
Sometimes I wonder why the American states stick together and don’t become several smaller countries. Every state has their own set of laws, cultural differences, accents etc anyway.
You could ask the same of the UK, but apart from Scotland, all the other parts are mostly happy with the current arrangement.
I feel like some of the southern states would be too dangerous and would probably see a huge rise in deaths and such if they became their own little countries, the government is keeping some of them from going off the deep end
We could do that but I would mess up our economy even worse than it already is. Besides, Texas is the only state big enough to secede
Not every state individually, just into smaller groups. You already have central, easter etc timezones and areas denoted ‘deep south’ and ‘pacific northwest’, so it’s not too much of a stretch to draw the lines.
Lol true. More trouble than it’s worth. I mean the green party and part of the left wants to move everyone into districts in the larger states and “let nature take over what it once owned.” so yeah lol
It wouldn’t be a matter of moving (unless people really didn’t like who was going to be in charge of their part, or were worried about moving back to their original state after a move), it would just be a matter of establish some new, smaller governments and standardising laws between states. Keep trading and movement relatively free and open and you’d hardly notice the difference aside from things being more standardised in the states that are closer to each other..
Well, I don’t see alternatives for USA Prez in the news, though…
Bernie Sanders was the most fit for the job and they all kinda snubbed him and attacked him, now its just Hillary or trump, but really as a person hilliary isn’t too bad
Well at least an alternative exists, even if (as usual) presidential candidates attacked each other all the time.
Good luck on the elections though. May the “best” person win.
oh I’m not an american, And it wasn’t just the presidential candidates that attacked or snubbed him, like all the major news outlets never gave any representation to bernie and if they did it was small and negative, so unfortunately a lot of the checked out people (the ones who are not actually paying much attention) didn’t even know that he was an option until it was too late, but I digress, the past is in the past, not my country. blahhh 😛
Franky I think Hillary is really creepy. No matter how stupid trump gets, I still struggle to not get creeped out by Hillary.
I think Bernie would have been better. He might look like he’s just some random old guy, but at least he looks more normal than Hillary or Trump.
Plus Hillary’s supporters keep playing the “She’s a woman” card. Whether the president is a man or a woman is irrelivent, what matters is whether or not they’re going to do a good job.
(And before anyone says anything, I’ve got nothing against the leader of a country being female, I’m saying it’s unimportant. Hitler could have been female, it wouldn’t have stopped him invading Poland.)
When I live in a country where there are multiple parties and any of them can win at anytime, some of the news reporters bash that system and wish we could have only 2 major parties.
SIIIGH. “Grass is greener” mentality.
Both 2 party and 5+ party systems have advantages and disadvantages. 1 party is all disadvantages, tho. 🙂
Having only two does make it easier in most cases. It’s just when you get cases like America has now, where neither option is particularly brilliant. At least in the UK we had a situation where when nobody was confident enough in the main two parties (at the time) there was a third party to help break the tie and form a coalition (which actually didn’t turn out as bad as everyone was saying it would).
Well I suppose a low number of parties is decent. 3 seems to be the magic number in most cases… 🙂
We’ve got about 10 in total, but only 3-5 are actually any real form of competition.
One party only the Scottish will vote for, which means they’ll never have a majority.
One or two parties have a bad rep (which may or may not be deserved) so they’ll never get a majority.
The monster raving loony party is a joke party.
There’s a couple of small parties nobody has ever heard of because they’re too specific (I think there’s a party for making internet piracy legal and one for making drugs legal, as well as a few that only affect northern Ireland).
And then there’s the Greens. They’ve got the environment sorted, but nothing else.
Oh, and plaid cmryu (or however it’s supposed to be spelt), who only get votes from *some* of the Welsh.
Also the Obama thing was a joke because he was born in Hawaii.
I find it amusing how everyone missed my main joke and started raving about Trump.
Anyone who doesn’t think Gumshoo looks like trump is a racist
I’ve got to say, IMO Alola forms are by far the best thing that has happened to pokemon in a while (or maybe ever?), and I’ve really loved practically everything that’s come out of the series in it’s history, so that’s saying something.
Whereas megas I initially hated and slowly accepted and grew to love, this idea I immediately adored, probably because I’d always wanted it in the games. Like many when I first saw the video, I thought we were in for mega exeggutor, but lo and behold, I saw the title and lost my mind. And then I saw the video. And hell the rest of the reveals were amazing too.
I know I’m certainly not the only one who had the idea, but I can hardly believe my old idea of having pokemon species variants like shaggy zubats or magikarps that retained their famed historical strengths is now coming true in pretty much that form, minus the specific pokemon. What with gamefreak actually making archelon and archaeopteryx based pokemon that I hopelessly wished for back in gen V, and other stuff coming true I forget, sometimes I wonder if GF and nintendo aren’t reading our minds to get ideas….
As a biology nerd the idea of pokemon having subspecies and phenotypic plasticity is mind-bogglingly amazing. Intraspecies variation is an idea that makes the pokemon world more biodiverse, and thus realistic and more vibrant. Compared to mega evolution, this is a new addition that really feels organic to the pokemon world rather than tacked on, and that’s because it’s an idea that’s been present from the series’ inception. And the thing is, with how uninterested in fully coherent wordbuilding GF are (try having a conversation about how coherent the pokemon world actually is with the canon information we have, seriously), and how happily and well they retcon stuff that can be retconned (mostly additively) while still keeping the series at a decent level of coherence, this is the sort of idea that feels like it has indeed always been a lingering possibility in the pokemon world but hasn’t been explored until now due to technical and developmental constraints. We had the idea of alternate arbok designs. We had weird anime variants. We had delta species. It’s always been there on the sidelines, and now it’s entering the mainstream. Tbf the idea is basically a middleroad between these concepts, like a biologically thought out concept for delta species.
And the thing is, it puts those sidelines in a new light. It means the snowlaxes, crystal onixes, orange island variants, and weird electric type dratinis and steel/fire blastoises of Holon of our youths suddenly can be way more coherently included in the broad canon. And who knows, maybe someday we’ll get snowlaxes and crystal onixes in the games? That’d certainly be cool! (I’m especially hoping for a pink buterfree, or, even better, an orange islands butterfree! Also purple keckleon can now more easily be made mainstream canon!)
It also reminds me of something mentioned in the pokemon adventures manga GSC arc (which is currently coming out in France, so I’m finally getting to discover it), in which Professor Oak enlists Crystal’s help to fill the pokedex with pokemon from the Johto region , including Kanto pokemon, as they have subtle differences from one region to the other. The given example is the length of ratata teeth iirc, but the main point is that again this is circumstantial evidence of how easily this feature fits in the pokemon world since it’s often been alluded to. Granted this would be a more precise and local population phenotype based approach, but who knows, maybe one day…
I’m hoping that, years in the future, when the pokémon series now only exists as a series of expansions to the Pokémon World game (with online multi servers existing of course), individual pokemon variation is taken to it’s final logical step, and each pokémon’s model legitimately becomes unique. Each pokémon model would have a possible set of sizes, and not just overall, but for specific body parts. Body part shapes could also change and pokemon markings would vary. A pokemon would also have a chance of having one (or more, if exceedingly lucky) unique visual feature such as a special shaped marking, a different coloured element, a chip in a protuberance, etc. I know this sounds like an impossible amount of work ot create, but that’s why it’s a fantasy for the distant future. And regional variation could easily play a part in this, with trait size geographical gradients or areas having pokemon that are uniquely coloured in certain areas or uniquely marked.
Wow, that’s a lot of talking, but I guess it shows how excited I am about the whole concept! Hopefully it’ll make others think more broadly about the idea too!
TL;DR…
Seriously, I partly agree.
Exeggutor makes more sense than the others though.
And 90% of the people coming up with fan made ideas about alola form pokemon aren’t actually trying to justify the ideas, they’re just picking their favourite pokemon and slapping cool typings on them.
For true biodiversity, these things have to be thought through and justified. Ninetails sort of makes sense because of arctic foxes, and presumably arctic shrews also exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_shrew
I expected they did, but couldn’t be bothered to look it up because I have way too many tabs open already.
Yeah, people definitely are going crazy without much biological thought, but this is pokemon, game freak can make up any justification they like for a certain typing and it’ll probably work relatively organically because they’re good at that, so people’s hopes do have some potential support to them in most cases as long as they make a modicum of sense concept-wise.
And yeah arctic shrews are a thing, have you not seen Zootopia :p ? (they don’t tend to look like igloos though hahaha).
Yeah, I’ll be fair to game freak, even on the rare occaision I dislike their designs, at least they put thought into the biology in most cases. Except maybe Klefki and Trubbish, those are weird.
Nope. The first I heard of Zootopia on TV was the advert of it being released on DVD. Before that I somehow stumbled upon a video of a guy poking all the plot holes in it.
Sadly I had to agree with him, I find it odd that any police officer would expect to be put straight on homicide and not on traffic. Even in L.A. Noire you start off in traffic.
That and the thing about a police officer not having a torch (just in case: “flashlight”) and having to use a phone.
I think “parking meter attendant” is their stand-in for traffic.
They didn’t do traffic cop to save money, I guess, since it would be more expensive to choreograph and animate.
I thought parking meter attendants would be employeed by the people who own the car park. Seems kind of a waste using police for that, even if only rookies were used.
More likely they didn’t do it because it wouldn’t seem boring enough. They like to make miserable people’s situations overly dramatic. Heck, even Nintendo started out selling playing cards. And I bet a lot of their design team started out as an intern making coffee for the guys that shine Miyamoto’s shoes.
Even Klefki and Trubbish have pokemonish “biology” to them, at least to the same degree voltorb or grimer do.
I’d warmly recommend watching zootopia if you can get your hands on it (unless animation isn’t your thing or something), it’s genuinely an animated masterpiece and deals with a profound issue in a subtle and intelligent way (plus if those are the worse plot holes they came up with you shouldn’t have that much trouble suspending your disbelief haha)
They do, but I have a thing about mixing man-made materials and biology. Stuff like Mimikyu and Burmy where you’ve effectively got a hermit-crab creature using man made waste for what they’d normally use nature for makes sense, but Klefki taking on the appearance of a purely man made object and Trubbish being made of ‘man made’ rubbish bags seems weird. Steel things like Magnemite are excusable because metal does occur naturally (and even magnetises naturally).
The thing I watched poking holes in its plot was enough for me to see what the plot was supposed to be. Aside from the flaws in its plot (which were more than just those, those were just the most memorable), I don’t like watching films that are too politically driven. If I’m going to watch a film, I want to be thinking about the film in its context without any real world distractions (other than maybe physics). If I’m going to watch something political, I want it to be dealt with in a serious way with clear facts and figures. Hence the two things conflict.
Hmm I kinda see what you mean about mixing man-made materials with pokemon. But really klefki is just a steel fairy that happens to like collecting keys. For all intents and purposes that makes it a living keyring, and that’s the idea design-wise, but within the pokemon world the resemblance is supposedly coincidental. There’s a way to make it coherent. As for Trubbish it’s indeed a step further than grimer to have it carry a bin bag, but is it that weird in the world of pokemon that a sentient pile of sludge could produce it’s own starch or hydrocarbon-based body covering so as to mimic a bin bag?
As for Zootopia, I’m of the opinion that if you dig enough you’re bound to find holes in every plot. And sure, some films may be worse than others in that regard, but you’re bound to find someone for every film who’s decided they have a bone to pick and will dissect everything so as to show you why it doesn’t make sense to them . Often times the plot holes they point out could be quite easily plugged with a bit of thought, but because they present it as a hole you wouldn’t think to do so. And besides, unless it’s an absolute sense-breaking hole that prevents you from suspending your disbelief, even a film with plot holes can be a masterpiece. It’s also important to note that this isn’t exactly a “political” film. It deals with a deep issue of human nature and human society, like most films do. It just so happens that tolerance, the issue it deals with, is an issue that tends to be politically charged, especially in today’s times. I’m sorry but if someone thinks this film is some sort of politically driven vehicle of a particular agenda, they’re a bit of a paranoid wacko. Yeah, it’s trying to teach you a lesson about tolerance. But it’s a lesson you’d be hard pressed to fault. Most films teach you a lesson about whatever human topic they’re exploring. But this film also goes above and beyond that because it doesn’t just act as a well-crafted illustration of the issue at hand, it actively explores implications tolerance poses where less thorough films wouldn’t. Basically to dismiss this as a political film is pretty inane.
And aside from all that the production values and creativity behind the film, as well as the humour and references, make it truly worth the watch.
But hey I’m not here to tell you what to watch if it’s not up your street, I just believe you’d be missing something good by avoiding it for those reasons.
They’re still odd. Especially since the traits have no evolutionary advantage.
Well whatever, still not all that interested in it. I know the plot, it’s not that interesting and it majorly falls down as an allegory to real life. (Unless the ‘night howlers’ are supposed to be an allegory to drugs, which would be weird.) In real life there isn’t a substance that can just make people of a particular ethnicity attack people of another ethnicity. When someone attacks someone else, whether in self defence or malicious and whether called for or it, it is always a choice of free will, whichever race/ethnicity/whatever is involved. Hence the allegory fails to be relevant.
Either way, like I said before. I want in-world plot, not analysis of human nature. And I’ve read the plot, and it sounds pretty average.
Plus like a lot of American animated films there will be a truckload of cultural references I won’t be able to relate to (like the sloths. We don’t have a DMV in Britain, or any equivalent, so that one doesn’t translate). Some, like yellow busses, lockers and the ‘101’ thing are compulsory to know because of their prevalence in American media, but it still doesn’t make them easy to relate to.
OMG THANK YOU SOMEBODY FINALLY UNDERSTANDS IT
That’s because I refuse to let excitement throw logic out the window.
Grass Fire Gourgeist ?
That should’ve been its typing already
That’s what it was rumored to be when it leaked.
Firebreathing pumpkin… *googles*… I can live with this
Wat did they mean by this ?
The Sensu Style Oricorio is quiet and collected. By means of its dance, it gathers the spirits drifting about in an area and borrows their power to fight. People who migrated from Kanto feel a great liking for this Pokémon because its dance reminds them of their homeland.
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maybe lavender town? because they have the crazy possessed ladies with the fans in the ghost tower
its very Japanese compared to the rest, that would be my guess. the others seem Spanish, American, and Hawaiian (still technically American I know I know.)
SPANISH REGION CONFIRMEEED
The difference is that Hawaiian dancing existed before it joined America, cheerleading was invented after America was America, so it’s correct to say Hawaiian.
Although according to wikipedia, cheerleading seemingly evolved from America copying the chants of British football fans (the dancing came later). Also ironically Cheerleading was originally predominantly male. The more you know.
Well, Kanto is based on an area of Japan (the Kanto region, includes Tokyo among other cities/prefectures). Considering it looks very Asian (mostly Japan as its traditional dance includes fans) influenced, they probably put that little nod to it 🙂
Well Kanto on Japan and these birds have very Japanese designs
Well the sensu dancing that Oricorio form is performing/is based on is from Japan (check the hairdo and the fans, it’s kinda obvious), so the first four regions in the pokémon world.That dancing style might specifically be from the Kanto region in real life but I’m just speculating at this point, it’s beyond my knowledge.
I am not gonna lie I was thinking about this but first 4 gens r actually based on japan y they choose kanto?
As people have said, it’s the first gen so it’s the easiest shout-out to make, and it’s quite obviously japan-based ( despite johto indeed seeming to be a more appropriate choice).
I feel Johto would’ve been a more appropriate reference.
Somebody gets it ; u ;
Because the Sensu is a type of Japanese fan and Kanto (and Johto*) is supposed to be very Japanese. The sensu form of Oricorio is supposed to do Japanese style spiritual fan dancing as opposed to the flamenco/cheerleading/hawaiian dancing of the other styles.
Also the Lavender town-ghost connection.
*Mini Rant:
Johto is always been forgotten about. People rave on about Kanto and Gen 1 to the point where Johto is completely forgotten. It was the first sequel, without Gen 2, there would never have been any more sequels and pokemon would have been a one hit wonder.
I couldn’t imagine what it would be like it Pokemon was a one-hit wonder. Johto is my favorite region and HGSS are my favorite games in the series. It does suck how much people tend to forget about Johto
I couldn’t stand johto personally. (and by couldn’t stand I really mean “still love but less so than every other gen”)
Johto is lackluster without Kanto. But the games are undeniably some of the best (mostly HGSS tho)
What is it about Kanto that makes it better than Johto?
Johto has a lighthouse, and pagodas, and ruins, and a lake, and a forest, and a quaint little park, and a dark cave with a shrine, and a mountain with bears and ghosts.
Sorry, not Johto XD I meant Gen 2 games…. I love Johto’s design as a region, it is beautiful with many shrines and towns resembling rural Japan. It’s absolutely beautiful!
Without Kanto however, the gen 2 games wouldn’t be as full. Plus obviously the pokedex wouldn’t be full. But no, Johto is one of my favorite regions, if not my favorite.
If they hadn’t intended to send the player back to Kanto they would have made Johto bigger and crammed more Kanto pokemon in. Also Johto had a special pokedex to account for the sheer number of gen 2 pokemon that were gen 1 evos.
Tbh I think the reason they left Kanto in is because they developed it on top of the original game’s code instead of throwing the old code out, redoing the engine and starting from scratch like they did with later games.Which makes sense if the original was made in assembly or pure C. I suspect gen 3’s engine was done in C, C++ or a mix of both to make porting to new consoles easier. That would also explain why they hadn’t attempted something like pokemon colusseum earlier.
I like it more than Kanto and almost more than Unova.
I rag on Johto because it’s bad. The map, not Gen 2 as a whole.
I mean how can the entire gen be bad when it invented Azumarill.
I used to hate Azumarill until gen 6. Now I’m indifferent
I used it has my HM slave/contest winner in gen 3 😀
I like Johto. I always liked it more than Kanto. Especially the Pagodas and the slightly more rural feel.
Not to mention the ruins, Ilex forest and the lighthouse etc
Better than a powerplant, a cycling road and tower for the deceased. (I just realised I also just described gen 3, which is my favourite gen… eh, Hoenn did it better).
I’m more referring to the problematic leveling (that they kept for HGSS) than the scenery/tourist spots, though.
I’ve never noticed. Tbh aside from the very first time I played pokemon, I’ve never struggled to beat the gym leaders and champion.
I’ll be fair that Whitney’s Miltank was a pain to beat, but only because of rollout and the lack of a good fighting type being available prior to encountering her.
ghost/electric chandelure, rock/grass sudowoodo
(really think it should have had different designs long ago)
Sudowoodo should get different designs based on location. I’d love to see a palm tree variation or an evergreen variation. Same could be said for trevanant and possible Sawsbuck
I could live with a palm tree Sudowoodo, but I don’t think you’d have to change its typing just to give it a new form.
Everyone seems to be forgetting Exeggutor wasn’t given a new typing, so Ninetails and Sandslash might be exceptions to the rule rather than vice versa.
Exeggutor is grass/dragon
Hrm, I forgot that. Ok disregard the bit about Exeggutor.
I still think making every new form have a new typing is OTT though.
Why not mix things up and just give different forms special moves or abilities instead of screwing with the typing every time.
Because hidden abilities already exist so giving them other abilities just for alola without changing their types makes little sense imo
Uh, they were given new abilities. Like Snow Cloak for… was it Sandshrew?
I’m guessing they’ll also give new HA, probably Snow Warning for Ninetales.
No i meant giving them new abilities without having their type or appearance change
Well this is Troll Freak who knows if they will introduce “Hidden Ability 2”. Though personally I would just abolish Hidden Ability and make those accessible as a second or third ability (or fourth in the case of HA2).
And they have added an ability before. I think it was Chansey who had one ability in Gen 3, but have 2 in Gen 4, so transferred Chansey had a chance to have one of two abilities?
Ftr: I never said anything about not changing their appearance, just not changing their type.
And to elaborate on crap hidden abilities:
Sunflora’s hidden ability is Early Bird. Something like Overgrow would be much more useful.Or Leaf Guard, or Regenerator.
Audino’s HA is Klutz, which unless you’re specifically gearing up for an anti-item tactic is pretty crappy. Giving it something like Reckless would mean it could actually do a bit of damage in addition to being primarily a healer.
Hitmonlee’s Unburden, also pretty useless unless specifically going up against Knock Off or Thief. Imagine if it were Mold Breaker or Defiant.
It would be a chance to rectify some of the more useless hidden abilities.
Also, Exeggutor’s new Frisk ability has nothing to do with its typing.
They also gave the new form a new ability, e.g. Frisk for Exeggutor.
I know. And Snow cloak for Sandslash etc
But I mean they should have alolan forms that *don’t* affect the typing.
Otherwise it’s just an excuse to have a new typing, which is an abuse and doesn’t reflect biodiversity.
If alolan forms are supposed to reflect biodiversity, they should be able to do so through moves and abilities without needing to change the typing every time.
For example, Sudowoodo could still be rock type, but look like a palm tree and have an ability like solar power (not solar power, because solar power is crap, but something sun themed).
I just love Oricorio so much I want to cry ?
Do you think it will evolve?
Nah. I think it’ll be like Chatot.
yeah I’m a huge fan as well. oh btw I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet because I was at work all day, but Lurantis seems to be based on the Orchid mantis. but is surprisingly pure grass for some reason…
THAT’S WHAT THE MANTIS IS CALLED I could’ve sworn I recognized it’s design
yepp I knew it as soon as I saw it, I always have one as a pet in animal crossing lol
Not being a bug-type is odd for it but I’m glad it wasn’t grass/bug
lowkey im happy because we already have a gras/bug mantis with leveanny
Leavanny is partly a mantis but mostly a leaf-insect. Nothing much to do with an orchid mantis 🙂
for me is the head of an ant with the body of a mantis
Check out “leaf insect” on wikipedia if you don’t know what one is, because what you’re saying is basically a pretty close description of one, and is thus pretty redundant. It’s like saying Bewear has the body of a bear and the tail of a raccoon. It’s based on a red panda, that’s why it has those elements. Same goes for leavannny, it’s a leaf insect with a bit of mantis inspiration for the cutty bits, that’s it.
I was discus that before pure grass type is better than grass-bug but it completely look like a bug ……..y they made this ?
I’m sorry I don’t understand what you are trying to ask.
He’s asking why it isn’t a bug type
Maybe they didn’t want to step all over Sewaddle’s gig..?
They can make it bug /fairy.
We just had one Bug/Fairy in Cutiefly.
Grass/Fairy, which is Whimsicott’s territory.
Though there’s enough plain Grass types, I guess.
We may never know what GF is thinking.
It is a play on the orchid mantis.
The orchid mantis pretends to be a flower to lure in prey.
In FAUXmantis and LUREantis’ cases, they are plants that pretend to be bugs…perhaps they do not want to be vegetation for bug types since bugs are super effective against grass-types.
I already explained this three hours ago 😛
In that case, Lurantis is probably the opposite. Instead of a Mantis pretending to be an Orchid, it’s an Orchid pretending to be a Mantis. Scythers beware!
Alohan Vulpix and Ninetales
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just realized I got that steel type pangolin ive always wanted lol
Watch out !!! http://pre07.deviantart.net/24a5/th/pre/i/2016/214/f/2/pokemon_sun_and_moon___tree_huggers_by_madcookiefighter-dacdqn2.png
I’m kinda confused on whats going on with bewear, but speaking of bewear, I wonder if exeggutor are wary of them? “Bewear can snap a tree in two with little effort while being affectionate”
It’s wearing a Komala mask
There’s an image posted by Earthen (who else) of Bewear doing its thing on Exeggutor’s trunk… it’s the third comment on best comments. Black comedy at its finest…
LOL The Bewear is trying to make itself look like a Comala. 😀
welp, I’m going online to splat some squids. later junglers, always nice chatting with all of you!
Give Litten some love #STAYWITHWRESTLERCAT
I like Litten. I don’t like its evo (assuming this is canon).
I’m getting all three. They will be nicknamed Robin Hood, Little John, and Maid Marian. 😀
And Litten’s evo is going to be Maid Marian, right? 😀
Heh heh heh, not sure if serious. 😀
Half and half.
Firstly I find it amusing that everyone would automatically assume
the Popplio evo to be Maid Marian and not the wrestling tiger.
Secondly getting beaten by a ten ton wrestling tiger called ‘Maid Marian’ would be pretty humiliating.
It’s both.
I’ve been sick for the past several days (still am) with a head cold, so this is all new to me.
So. Much. HYPE!!!
Awe get better my elegant Milotic
Well I had nonstop “Oooh”s watching the Japanese trailer, then I had more nonstop “Oooh”s when watching the English trailer afterwards.
Hala would’ve been hot if he had been younger. Kukui though ?
Can I get your opinion on the fire trials guy, how’d you find him?
10/10
-3 for looking so youngoos
-2 for being so skinny
-1 for being beardless/no facial hair
So harsh. 🙂
But I guess it’s all down to preference.
Hi DefensiveBastiodon, sorry for being so random but that Kukui profile pic you have! *.*
Is there any way you can send me the higher quality version? It would be very appreciated! 🙂
Sorry. I got it off twitter and it was saved to my phone that I had to warranty out so I don’t have it anymore. :/
It’s okay, Malco just shared the image with me! If you need it again you should actually get it from their post. Thanks for replying though. 🙂
https://archive-media.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1463/98/1463986306350.jpg
THERE IS
Thank you so much Malco! Very appreciated!! ^_^
Hala is mine!
If we’re going to be playing that game, I’m taking Mallow (until something better comes along…)
This might be a bit somber, but I think Sun/Moon will be the the last Pokemon Games on the 3DS. Nintendo is slowly killing the handheld, with the hybrid NX replacing it and the Wii U. The 3DS has a dry 2017 in terms of games with the only titles being a localisation of Yo-Kai Watch 3, Lady Layton and some Level 5 games, and Dragon Quest 11. I think Sun/Moon is ending the 3DS with a bang. I’m predicting an Diamond/Pearl Remake for the system or a port of Sun/Moon with improved graphics and textures. With a potential Tegra X2 processor, just image how good Pokemon games will look. Also, I don’t think that Sun/Moon will be the last games of the series as others have stated. Masuda literally talked about giving director positions to more staff members, how would they do that with no games? I’m sure an NX title is in the works, I cannot wait for 2017-18. Bring on some HD Pokemon!
I think we’ll get another game or set of games for 3DS. Too much potential to waste. Especially on the New 3DS. I suspect we’ll get DPPt remakes first thing on a new system. And Byron will look gorgeous
Maybe. It is the future, but think about it; the 3DS has been here for six years and it got its mid-life upgrade. I think Nintendo will want a game to push NX sales! A new Pokemon game will do it.
I really don’t think there will be a handheld for the NX. I think it will be a separate system that’s compatible with it.
To be fair, my 3DS is getting quite worn, and it’s one of the newer models and I don’t even take it out that much (I don’t even go out that much…).
I think it’s definately time they started working towards the newer system.
If they’d had it ready sooner, they could have moved pokemon S&M straight onto it.
Not somber, just logical.
That is, if the NX is a hybrid or similar to a handheld… If not, I don’t see Pokemon switching to consoles. Ever.
But I agree with you on that this is the last generation of Pokemon games on the 3DS
oh cool lady Layton will be localized afterall. will miss the professor though. he was my bro, a very inspirational character.
It has been confirmed that the NX is a handheld system. Not a hybrid
Pretty sure Reggie said it’s a console so no.
It could still be a sort of hybrid though.
They can’t survive without handhelds. That is what is making them money. They said themselves that it was hard to compete against Mobile Gaming. And almost every single big console has failed of theirs. They aren’t going to ditch it for something that will fail.
No doubt. I’m almost surprised it was on the 3ds in the first place with the NX so close on the horizon.
Alolan Alakazam look like deddy corbuzer (retired magcian and now fitness trainer)
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/m3nrChWxQwf.OjpW5nYh5g–/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9NDAwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NzAwO2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNjA7cT03NTt3PTYzMA–/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/omg/2014-03-18/4b75eb80-ae76-11e3-89fb-073fb84743a3_deddy.jpg
oh….rowlet IS SO GONNA BE MINE! or shoud i call him……LINK
These leaks are fake or both forms can be found in the wild. It has already been shown that Arcanine can be found with its normal color and art. So either these leaks are fake, or both kinds can be found in the wild.
I forgot that one yes!, Arcanine did already appear in its normal form
The normal Arcanine could have been traded over from past games to throw people off the scent.
Maybe yes, damn u GF. We will have to wait to see I guess
Yet the same exact leak says they must be traded over from older games so you basically just called it fake yourself.
Game freak do have the ability to trade pokemon from old games into the new games for the sake of their trailers. So no, I didn’t call it fake. What I’m saying is if you take the leaks at face value, it can be justfied that they purposely showed people Arcanines traded from old games and avoided using the Alolan Archanines. The leak says the normal forms of the pokemon do not exist in Alola *but* you can get them by trading them over from old games. The pokemon do not transform into Alola form the moment they arrive at the Alola region. They could have put a regular Ninetales next to an Alola Ninetales and it would stilll be legit.
or they could have just made it so they were battling arcanine, they can do that after all. why? to avoid spoilers and keep it a surprise.
They aren’t avoiding spoilers. They never do that. What we see in trailers is what we get.
so we will be stuck with starters that cant evolve? this right here is them avoiding spoilers. they have the ability to make the game display whatever they want for trailers, that’s why they always say “game footage is not final” on the bottom of the screen.
Those Arcanine may not be native to the Alola region.
Two evolutions? Male and female? The Litten final evolution looks pretty masculine and the Poplio evolution looks pretty feminine …
they’d have to tweak the gender ratios if they wanted to do this. which I wouldn’t mind, but I see it as unlikely.
I don’t think they need to. One of them will just have to have an alternate evo path (e.g. trading, stones). Gender (or looks) probably won’t have an impact unless they decided on the Espurr-like gender changes.
I got a ?: Which of the new Pokemon is the Cutest?
bewear.
why is bewear cute?
Mimikyu.
cool 😀
Either Formantis or Bounsweet.
Or maybe Comfey.
The fact they are all part grass is not intentional, grass types are just disproportionately cute.
I’d say Bewear but its headband looks daft and otherwise I think it looks reasonably expressionless and maybe a bit tough.
Mimikyu is depressing because of its lore. I hope its evolution is happier. It would be a nice touch if it evolves at max friendship.
If there’s a fighting type abra line, wouldnt it be cool if there is a psychic type machop line?
And what if up was down and left was right, the sea was up high and the sky down below, and dragonite was fairy and clefairy was a dragon?
Somebody understands this
So we have four captains for four islands, which are Water,Grass,Electric and Fire, they all have a four sided charm where each of them has a side filled with corresponding colour. I believe that’s why there are four trial captains in total, no more. Also the typings match with the colourings of the islands; Green, Blue, Red and Yellow. I’ve heard this colourings from elsewhere, IDK if it’s a rumour or fact. If it’s fact, I think guardian deities may have that typings as well.
Two of the totem Pokemon are Gumshoos and Lurantis.
Grand trial is led by kahuna, which are like Elite four I guess, IDK. One of them is Hala and we don’t really know if he specializes in any type but we see him using Tapu Koko which was Electric and wears yellow coat.
We also have four Oricorio types: Fire,Electric, Ghost, Psychic representing each island.
So, I don’t know what will it lead to. I believe kahunas will not be related to any typing, they will just have some connections with the guardian deities design wise. I guess Oricoro will be representing the cultural/spiritual side of the islands, and give no more connection about guardian deity typings. And same goes for totem pokemon as one of them is Gumshoos.
Also, we may see Vikivolt as totem. Imagine it spawning Charjabug so that the whole concept of Vikivolt using Charjabug as battery comes alive and also the ability.
It should also be noted that Kiawe has Marowak. I wonder if we will see regional form of Marowak.
“Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been passed down in the Alola region.”
It seems to me that maybe Marowak could have fire type Alolan form. What do you think?
Belmad got there 11 minutes earlier. And probably other people before belmad.
“Kahunas are chosen by the Pokémon known as guardian deities, which are also found on each island.”
I guess this is reason why we saw in one of earlier announcements that Hala is using Tapu Koko
I’m surprised by the lack of people talking about this cat that you can cater to your liking. . . I can have a Normal/Ghost type cat just because I want to? I can literally customize a Pokemon, to be what I want it to be. . . That’s a big deal.
As a competitor, I might wanna talk about it more after I know its egg group(s).
After all, you can’t make it a Normal/Ghost (for example) when there are no Ghosts in the Field egg group.
Other people might get more interested in it once they have a visual.
Nobody was really talking about any of the things listed above mostly because those still aren’t confirmed. People were mostly talking about stuff from the video released.
Well, I guess you could say that the evidence that proves that this leak is real, is surprisingly *Mallow*
‘Why bother apologising’
I’m surprised it’s this that makes you all claim confirmation and not the fact that the new trailer pretty much revealed that the whole “no traditional Pokemon League” thing was legit.
Eh, I saw no gyms coming, ever since the map was revealed. And I was mainly referring to the concept-art rather than the Chinese-text leak. It’s not like the pictures came with the leak.
It’s just amazing since the concept art appeared during late June, people laughed at it, but here it is now, back in full circle.
Alolan Alakazam line is Fighting? Yeah I call bullshit on that. Why would their typing change to something that’s completely opposite of their name? Same deal with Alolan Arcanine being Water Type. I DO dig Dodrio being Fighting/Flying now.
I hope more than just Gen 1 Pokemon are getting the Alola treatment. I do wanna see Alola themed Torkoal, Lilligant and Hawlucha.
SANDshrew and SANDslash, don’t appear to be any more related to ground in Alola
That’s why I’m not believing anything anyone says anymore
Those three made sense but you gotta remember exactly what is going on, Environmental Adaptation
Where the powerful erratic ecosystem causes non-native species to physically alter their genetic structure over a course of hundreds or even thousands of years to better suit the environment
And who knows they technically could be genetic mutations
Vulpix and Ninetales’s flame sacs overusing its internal flame to stay alive in the frigid tundra and then finally just permanently freezing over causing its whole body to freeze (a whole period of sickness in the generations and some dying out) until finally the genetic structure changed to accommodate the sickness and make it work for it thus creating a new generation of Vulpix that inched forward with these new traits and soon became the dominant norm for this species
My only wrench in the logic is secondary types I don’t like the idea that Alolan Ninetales is part fairy unless it ate spiritual moonwater from those mountains
And the Steel in Snowshrew unless in a similar explanation but involving fragments of iron ore in the burrows they lived in clung to their skin and just froze over
I just want to know how it evolves.
Probably because the steel armour helps protect against the hail, it’s totally possible the steel came first and the ice type afterwards.
Um… SAND slash?
Literally anything is possible with these alolan pokemon
i bet the island of Alola must have some powerful magic that turn our gen 1 Pokemon into Alolan Pokemon.
Yeah it’s called freaking extreme microclimates
Evolution baby. Like, Darwin evolution. Not Pokemon evolution. After many generations of adapting to the environment, the Pokemon changes.
I wonder if Alolan Formes might affect stats. A fighting type Alakazam would be useless since it’s a special attacker, + there arent a lot special fighting movies either.
They’re probably have the same totals but spread differently. Like sandshrew/slash said it’s slower but has better attack and defence
I actually hope Alakazam is a special attacker still. That way they’ll add more special fighting moves.
Agreed. There are only 3 special fighting moves I think lol not enough.
Im guessing they do this is part of Alolan Sandshrew’s description on the Sun Moon Website: “It excels defensively, but it lacks flexibility and can’t curl its body into a ball like a Ground-type Sandshrew can.”
The thing is, normal sandshrew excels defensively as well, but the website also says this: “Its heavy weight makes the Alolan Sandshrew slower than a normal Sandshrew.”
^Clearly meaning the speed stat is less than normal Sandshrew.
Thanks for the info. I need to go on official Pokemon site more often lol.
So any ideas what the starters and rockruff have in common? It’s not z moves…could it be the 2 final evos?
Alchemical symbols? I guess is as good as yours
I don’t get why Sandshrew and Sandslash are steel types, the ice on its back is hard but it’s not steel. And why is Ninetales a fairy? Why would a fire type suddenly decide to live on a snowy mountain? Why is Exeggutor a dragon?
I can understand it with like elemental types like fire, water and grass, but how would Alakazam become a fighting type? Then it’s not an Alakazam anymore.
I’m sorry for sounding so negative but like I have said before it seems so random to me. Like why couldn’t the Vulpix for example gone to live in a cave near the ocean and become a rock/water type instead? I also said this before but will the same Pokemon get new forms for future regions? Will it be Alola exclusive? I’m sorry I don’t want to come of as stupid or ignorant or something but this is bugging me. I know Pokemon isn’t the the place for logical explanations but I need answers
(Don’t hate me plz)
Dragon typing is likely because dragon fruit is a very popular thing to grow in Hawaii currently, and as for steel, no idea..I thought something about the claws maybe? Turning to steel to better grif and grab on the ice
There’s a palm tree called a Dragon Palm. Although, dragon fruit is delicious lol
The dragon palm makes a lot more sense than mine haha
Since you mentioned the dragon fruit, now I wished the heads where simply that haha
Me too. And also I wish there were Alolan Exeggcute which were either 6 Coconuts if it wasn’t dragon fruit heads or 6 dragon fruit if it was.
Exeggutor is dragon because of the Madagascar Dragon Tree
It’s adaptation/evolution. Vulpix for example living in colder environments became Ice types.
That I understand completely
I think the whole point of the type changes are the adaptation to their environments, at least for the ice typing.
The steel, I can only justify it as being the composition of sand at an atomic level (ie calcium carbonate, etc).
The fairy is rather odd but may be due to the lore of the OG Ninetales – the nine tailed fox.
Your question is why did they do it like this instead of the way I wanted. It’s an illogical question.
They did what they did because they own Pokemon and have the right to do whatever they want. Thats the simplest answer.
No my question is more why they did it in the first place, I don’t have an example of a better way to do what they did
https://youtu.be/tey15kvmE5I
Its evolution…
How come Pokejungle didn’t post the facts about the S.S. Anne and several older characters returning as well as time working differently in each version (the latter of which I fear the most. I don’t want Sun to be all daytime and Moon all nighttime). Is it because this is another mixing in the Chinese leaker’s facts with lies? Or because he didn’t hear about them yet? What’s up with that?
That cat sounds friggen sweet. Also, I’d love to see Cynthia and Blue again. also Misty 🙁
Where are these extra leaks from? Because yeah it might just be bandwagoning… I’m not even sure where all the extra info pokéjungle got comes from and wether it’s not bandwagoning too.
This batch scares me because it’s suggesting synchro is still a thing. Please, Enough. Eurgh. Also Dafuq why would the SS Anne be in the game (unless Alola is where it spends the rest of the year), and how would they have time working” differently” between versions? That cat pokémon idea kinda sounds dodgy to me, as does the idea that pokemon from the VC games have pre Gen 6 typing and stats. I’m leaning on calling fake on this.
I beive that could be Comfey evolution. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470099038980.png
I think those are just Meganium..
oh that’s right …I thought they teasing something…..I was rush by the way.
But they say COMFEY gives out Leis so it may just be a lei that it gave to him.
No I think he was talking about the pattern on the shirt..
Oh. Wow. I’m stupid. I didn’t notice that last picture.
Lol it’s alright. At first glance I was looking at the lei too
I believe thats a Meganium
Some body hear my voice and draw my concept of fighting nunchaku Alakazam. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470145335578.jpg
Did you make that?
No
how did u know I could drawing this …?
Well I just understood what you were saying. Yesterday you suggested Alakazam could use nunchucks and so just now you said that someone drew it using your idea.
I like how always u being focus.
I try. I just want to make sure that you’re being understood 🙂
no it’s not mine.
Oh. Ok.
Yes! All of it!
That’s dope as shit.
So. I didn’t see this until now when I zoomed in on that picture in the trailer, but this is the tail-head’s face.
I see you changed your avatar xD
Yep. I was waiting for a picture of it 🙂
Main thing I don’t like: the supposed final forms leak. Really hoping that’s not true, because the final Popplio form looks WAY too feminine, though I like the other two. But hey, I got used to my male Sylveon, (whom I named Gutmuncher, cuz he needed a tough name looking like that) so if Popplio (my current starter choice) turns into that Siren-sea lion thing, I may end up liking it. Still unconfirmed though.
Rumor has it there may be two final forms for each starter.
That is stupid
Yet seems plausible given Alola’s fixation on species diversity.
there’s no way, unless its gender differences. we’ve seen the pokedex page with the starter pokemon, and 1 evolution is confirmed.
Well yeah I’m sure it’s either gender differences or just different forms of some sort. Either way they’d be the same pokemon, so they wouldn’t need another dex entry. Perhaps what island you evolve them on has something to do with what final form it takes.
The starters can’t have a split evolution. I remember seeing someone go through the beginning of the pokedex on one video, and the starters only had 2 spaces after them.
Well they’d be gender differences, most likely
Gender differences are a dying fad
Gamefreak used to be all over neat little differences back in the day but ever since gen 5 they’re dwindled and reduced greatly
Meowstic says hi :3
That’s probably fair, but it’s possible, if they have different forms, that you can choose what form they taken with a new method like depending on something island-based or maybe day/night feature which may play a big role.
That would neeeeever work out
Gamefreak isn’t too fond of letting players call the shots
It’s either find one that looks like the way you want or hit the bricks
Well we’ll have to see
And have grown far more noticeable as well.
I like this concept. http://orig01.deviantart.net/e3f4/f/2016/214/e/b/alolan_solrock_and_lunatone_by_a_bumbling_idiot-dacejk9.png
Ugh this is going to get annoying fast
Alolan this and Alolan that, just one headache after another
Well we are going to Alola after all. lol
He’s just bitter there isn’t an A-Rhyperior
no he’s bitter that people are suggesting alola native pokemon with little to no backing as to why, and he’s right, its kinda irritating.
Thank you
Water Arcanine adapted to its watery environment – I don’t see what’s wrong with that since animals already do that. Plus, it’s a children’s game so there’s that lol
That’s just not a good enough excuse
It should’ve sank like a stone
If that happened, then we’d also have a lot of animals not here due to temperature, salinity, pressure, toxicity, etc. Evolution is achieved over a population. We’ve been able to do this with a strain of E. coli that normally cannot metabolize citrate. Between 6-7 years of varying citrate concentration yielded a few hundred colonies surviving due to error-proned protein synthesis yielding a defective repressing protein. This allows expression of a citrate metabolizing enzyme.
The same thing is happening to the Alolan variants at a macro level.
You lost me at “if”
I’m basically trying to justify the Alolan variants with real world applications, since GF likes to do their homework.
but that’s a nearly confirmed rumor. hes upset that people are suggesting these without explaining or giving any reason, just because they want to.
Oh, I’ve always thought that the environmental adaptation was the justification as it is a different result of epigenetics
right, but no one is saying that, they are just saying “durhur alolan pokemon” with no reason as to why. why does this onix have steel type? what about it makes it steel? elaborate. (as an example obviously)
I’ve always assumed it’s because of the composition of dirt containing metallic compounds like calcium carbonate or oxidized iron. At the atomic level, there is an abundance of metals that are found in compounds in dirt. That’s my logistics.
You seem to have a problem with a lot of things that people discuss about in the chats, and it’s for no reason. I mean it’s just speculation and who cares if there’s no evidence towards it, just people having fun after all!
If Ian doesn’t personally like it, he condemns it.
Oh I know that, been around these parts long enough to know that he can’t get his way, we’ll all know about it! Haha
So freedom of speech isn’t a thing?
Not even on the internet of all places?
Even with an Alolan Rhyperior line~?
What possible way would Rhyhorn or Rhydon ever change based on environmental changes,
This is just as bad as some Megas but now people will be wanting Alolan Gyarados that’s like Fire/Dragon just because it decided to slither onto land
Or Fighting Abra because it decided to punch stuff for 18 hours a day instead of sleeping or a Growlithe who learned the doggy paddle and poof grew fins and gills
It is a shitty excuse to avoid creating actual new Pokemon which could’ve been easily the same concept
They could add fire type instead of some other type? Make it more a volcano related pokemon, uses magma to shoot out of its arms. Uses it as shield as well, maybe get magma armor or body?
These are gorgeous!
r u a new member ?
no, I have been here for years, I just changed my name a few times and picture
so wat’s the original ?
So with the advent of Poke Rides do we think this is GF’s formal step towards getting away from HM field moves? Like maybe later this month or next month they talk about how we no longer need to to use Surf or Fly to get places. Or do you think the Poke Rides are more so for specif things and not for everyday use so to speak?
I think it means that HM moves are a thing of the past 🙂
I think they’ll still be there but they won’t be required for use in the overworld :3
Oricorio was part of the leak as well? Daaamn. I guess Cynthia, AZ, Blue, Looker and Zinnia are all making appearances in S/M and I am freaking EXCITED.
You forgot Lance too! Interesting that 3 champions are appearing…perhaps it has something to do with the league you form? Maybe you can make them part of it. Or something similar to PWT?
Or maybe… Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia and Lance are part of the Elite 4 of the Alola region. :O
It’s ridiculous, I know lol
That would be a very difficult E4 haha
I just want to hear Cynthia’s theme remastered.. Gamefreak, please
Hmm Alola is made of 4 Islands:Fire,Electric,Grass and Water,what the deal with the Alolan Pokemon on the 4 Islands of Alola?
what are you asking?
Well it could be Electric, Fire, Ghost and Psychic like the Oricorio types. Plus this would match up with the 4 symbols on the badge/award thing (Yellow, Red, Purple, Pink), that hangs off the trainers bag.
Like the totem pokemon/island guardians or..?
Not entirely true as of yet as to whether it’s fire/water/elec/grass or if it’s based off of the Oricorio typings: Fire/elec/ghost/psychic (which matches with the medal/charm colours)
Fire/Electric/Ghost/Psychic seem to fit better with the 4 Hawaiian deities (Kanaloe, Kane, Ku and Lono) which is pretty much what we’re guessing the island guardians are based off. Bird Keeper Toby on Youtube made a theory with those exact types a few weeks back.
Yeah I do agree and hope there going for the more unusual typings, as one quad is basically gen 1 starters while the other is a bit more lore based I guess
I don’t understand which ones are going to be Fire and Psychic there. Maybe Kanaloe can be ghost as it can be associated with death by people from other cultures who happen to like to butcher other cultures. I personally think Water for god of oceans (Kanaloe) and Grass for god of agriculture (Lono) fits better but there can be anything anyways.
Kane is fire as he’s the guardian of light.
Lono is psychic as he’s associated with Knowledge and learning.
Kanaloe is the god of the underworld so of cause ghost.
Also the island names Melemele and Akala mean yellow and pink which are the associated colors of the islands they are based off of. Plus Yellow/Electric Pink/Psychic. The other two islands are associated with Red and Purple in the real world, leading them to probably be called Ula’ula and Poni. Also Red/Fire Purple/Ghost.
Just some things to think on.
Hmm Fire/elec/ghost/psychic.
Sun-Fire/elec
Moon-ghost/psychic
Hmm.
It’s kind of shocking how everything leaked so massively right off the bat, when they had barely announced the new games. GF has been careless before, but this time they did a really lame job keeping the secrecy. Some people there must’ve lost their jobs.
yet we still know next to nothing about the plot or many of the characters, really the only thing leaked were the starters finals and some minor other things here and there
I don’t get why people are freaking about the final evolutions. I mean when X and Y were coming out had a leaker who got some things right too but he also got a bunch of things wrong too. So take those starter evos with a grain of salt.
I’m pretty sure that the starter evos are confirmed now, simply because of the fact that Mallow, who was just revealed yesterday, appears in said leak which has been around for what… 1? 2 months now?
I still think it’s a coincidence that the character on there looks like a character they revealed.
She has the same hair and hairstyle, a flower on the head, she’s wearing shorts and she’s cooking. What do you want more? If you don’t want the starters to be those fine. But denying at this point that Mallow is there is crazy…and this means one thing only!
the character looks similar yes but why put ash on it if it’s concept art for the game and why are the pictures still able to be found if it was real wouldn’t all the pictures be gone by now. And also why put a grass girl on a fire starter.
Because it’s concept art for the anime.
Your other questions don’t matter. I hate these starters but I can accept they’re 100% legitimate.
hello people had said it’s concept art for the game not anime. And yes my other does matter since it makes no sense. Honestly how dumb can you be. They’re not 100% legitimate until gamefreak announces them if they do.
Yeah I hate them too but their obviously real at this point. Really curious to see the middle stage evolutions tbh. Can’t imagine how litten, rowlett, and poplio turn into a Mexican wrestler, treyvon Martin, and Caitlyn Jenner
But it has a character from the games in it that they couldn’t have just magically drawn on their own. These are real.
No. At this point these are entirely real. Mallow is in the images and she’s cooking, which is literally one trait of her personality. Right now, your in the phase of denial. These leaks are real, accept it already.
But didn’t the leaker just suggest the starters were real? This text leak and the starter images were leaked at different times. Like I said before, I could come up with some stuff (real and not) and then say ” oh that concept art for the starters that were leaked months before me are real” and everyone would accept it.
Makes you wonder, if mega evolutions are supposedly gone… Will it be better to keep some behind when transferring to Gen VII?
They’re not gone there are just not any new ones
Somebody stop the Pokecommunity
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AHS <3
ARE YOU READY FOR AHS6? i loved hotel imo
YES. Haven’t finished Hotel though, kind of got bored midway through the season and the fact that college is taking up 101% of my life isn’t helping either
I’m so ready!!! I love ahs
Lmfao
If the starters really do have another form, how would it be? I’m assuming it has to do with the “secret” that they hold. I think these are the only evolutions, but if there were other evos; I think it might be dependent on day and night or gender. I do believe it might be dependent on day and night more than anything. These evolutions could be the night evolutions of the starters. The day evolutions could be Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting. Honestly, I don’t think another form is happening. These starters seem like the only one.
i can see this happening. The rumours says that Rockruff has more than one evolution. Werewolf could be the night evolution. Maybe the night evolutions are humanish while the day evolutions are fully animals
What if the evolutions were version exclusives…. Because of the day/night thing.
Cynthia is coming back
https://67.media.tumblr.com/a9f1e6d41b1bfcb26566b372f74150b2/tumblr_nf1ma2ji6g1ql5yr7o1_500.gif
Cynthia is the shit. I wonder if Red will ever return again outside of the PWT though..
Crazy theory:
What if SM takes place in the universe without Mega Evolution and in the post game you have a reverse-delta episode where Mega Stones are coming but Zinnia’s trying to stop the interference.
Yes. 😀
In fact, I just want Zinnia. Zinnia was awesome :3
Zinnia kinda freaked me out. She acted mental to me. I really don’t want to see her again. :/
She knocked the kid out, did who knows what, and woke them up hours later like nothing happened…
Plus her pre battle animation gave off a crazy vibe in the wrong way. What even is that?
And then Cynthia steps in…and murders her with Mega Garchomp
The idea of adaptation itself is good, however I feel like they stretch things a bit to have a “WOW” factor, like going for complete opposites. I also feel in this hot sexy region, adaptation on a snowy mountain that even feels like does not belong there is a little stretching things too.
If it were me they would just convert their primary type to accommodate the form
Ninetales pure ice
And Snowshrew pure Ice
And Exeggutor gets nothing I’ll be damned to let that thing continue being a Dragon, it can learn Dragon Tail but letting it have Dragon Pulse or Draco Meteor is more then I can bear
I’m going to to have to agree with you I this for sure. I don’t understand the fairy typing other than solely the lore of the nine tailed fox, but then why not make OG-ninetales be Fire/Fairy? So, the ice makes sense; the fairy is up in the air
It’s based on the dragon palm?
not all Hawaiian islands have the same weather this area called Mauna Kea an it’s full with ice mountains. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Mauna_Kea_Summit_in_Winter.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Mauna_Kea_observatory.jpg
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I know it but I said “feels like”, not “is”. What I mean is that in this region adaptation on a snowy mountain is somehow seems like stretching, maybe not in Sinnoh.
I can’t exactly understand wat r u saying ?….wat did exactly mean by stretching?……….just to make know …the polar bear is actually a brown bear ,that’s a good example for adaptation on snowy territory.
i love geology
Well, nine tales and vulpix are foxes, and foxes can also live in snowy regions such as the arctic fox so this makes sense.
The sandslash and sandshrew line makes me wonder a bit, but they are more or less porcupines. And porcupines also can live in colder regions….
Assuming they’re actually shrews, the arctic shrew does exist as well.
Ah yes, indeed!
I don’t mean that. The thing is “Well let’s make something amazing. Ok, Ninetales is fire type, imagine it becoming ice type, everyone will say wow. So what’s the excuse. Ok we have a snowy mountain somewhere in the region, so they can go there to adapt cold weather because you know…they just…they just want to…you know…avoid other Pokemon..or their habitats. Yeah!”
Lol. “or their habitats.. Cuz. Yeah!”
Yeah, I think they partially did it for the wow factor and also because arctic foxes do migrate.
That’s the point I made too. I like the idea of old Pokemon having different forms in an Alolan environment but why on earth would a ground type and fire type take on a winter form in a TROPICAL region?
I can sort of understand Sandshrew/Sandslash changing in an icy environment, but (though I like them) Vulpix/Ninetales becoming Ice is a bit weird. If anything surely it makes more sense for them to remain Fire? Maybe they could also gain Ice in addition to Fire?
Growlithe supposedly getting Water typing is also a bit weird. I have hope there will be some other interesting ones, but we’ll see…
The gym rumor is false the trials are our gyms and the kahuna
Perspective and comprehension are key. I am not one to simply validate rumors as true, even if the claims possess a few truths here and there. However, the rumors never said anything about trials and kahunas. It simply said the gym leader system has been abolished, meaning there’s something other than gym leaders. The information we received yesterday proved that by showcasing the four Trial Captains and one of the four Kahunas. They may have been created in the same vein as gym leaders, but simple comprehension skills would tell you they’re not the same.
Uh. We don’t have Gyms any longer. The Trails, Totem Pokemon, and Kahuna replaced Gyms.
So if there is a Z crystal for each pokemon type….what type does this orange one correspond to? Fighting? Ground?
I would say fighting.
It could just be something the toy took liberties with due to plastics molding and such.
Here’s an image of all the Z-Crystals. Thr orange one is Fighting. The darker, last Z-Crystal is Ground.
Very nice.
how could u know that ?….source can u ?
i wonder if the alola versions will have stats boosts or just stats changes
Probably changes
And moveset changes as well
Just make another freaking Palm Tree or Artic Fox, or an Ice Needle thing, just why do this
i like them but i would admit. New original pokemon >>>> alolan versions
Yeah it’s weird, as much as I’m in love with the concept of intraspecies variation, I’d rather new pokemon to represent new concepts.
I happen to like this though…. I find it cool how it is a little bit like real life science. Adaptations, and variations. It’s cool! Plus, I don’t think they will do this with a ton of pokemon…
Do you already hate the concept? Why are you always the debbie-downer? It happens in nature, Pokemon is based on animals and their new forms are rather neat. It adds some personality to S/M. It’s not even a crazy feature, why do you not like it.
IM ALWAYS A DEBBIE DOWNER BECAUSE EVERYTHING AND I MEAN EVERYTHING CONSTANTLY SUCKS
MY APPLE ID MIGHTVE BEEN HACKED AND I LOST ALL MY PASSWORDS
EVERYTHING JUST ALWAYS HAS TO BE A FREAKING ORDEAL WITH ME JUST CANT GO TWO SECONDS WITHOUT SOMETHING BAD BEFELLING ME
I TRULY DONT DESERVE THIS
People would end up complaining the pokemon are too similar.
I assume so. Moveset changes are already evident. They said that Alolan Sandshrew is slower than the regular Sandshrew. So, I guess it will happened.
bad lighting or alolan tauros?
https://67.media.tumblr.com/267cdac08ff6f964b574dbeff8abf76a/tumblr_inline_ob91jdgiQa1qgyn2p_540.png
Lighting
YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
MY PHONE DELETED ALL OF MY FREAKING PASSWORDS
WHY DOES EVERYTHING CONSTANTLY SUCK FOR ME
I swear I think my phone either has a glitch or that all of my effing information is gone
What information?
My Saved Passwords are gone (and I had a lot)
My Email Inbox isn’t loading any of my mail
Thank god my photos and notes are safe but seriously I don’t understand what could’ve possibly gone wrong
Damn, that sucks.
Hope you get all the stuff back somehow.
Yep always Earthen taking the blow, just a freaking bad luck misfortune lightning rod
If this spreads to my IPad that would be it, I probably cut myself or slam my head through the wall
I just simply cannot withstand any more freaking horribleness
I really hope this didn’t happen to my IPad otherwise that’s it, the final freaking straw
So what pokemon (revealed so far) do you think Ash will have in the anime?
Just a little topic for discussion!
Litten (will fully evolve)
Pikipek
Pikachu (lame)
Grubbin (will probably release or send to Oak)
Fomantis
Mudbray (Will learn to ride)
Salandit
Salandit will likely go to Team Rocket IMO.
That’s true..
Hmmmm….Mine are similar choices kind of.
pikachu (duh…)
Pikipek
Rowlet
Salandit
Bewear
Wimpod? Or maybe Minior?
I honestly want one of his rivals to be some guy who wishes he could be popular as Ash, so he pretends to be him, and Mimikyu is his signature Pokemon.
Lol THATS AWESOME XD
The dolphin Pokemon I found is from Pokemon Altair, Sirius, Vega, Procyon, and Deneb. Here are the details for the dolphin/killer whale/narwhal evolution line:
Dorfin
Type(s): Water
Debut: Pokemon Altair and Sirius
First Official appearance: Pokemon Sun and Moon
Darca
Type(s): Water/Dark
Debut: Pokemon Altair And Sirius
First Official appearance: Pokemon Sun and Moon
Narwhail
Type(s): Ice
Debut: Pokemon Vega
First Official appearance: Pokemon Sun and Moon
These Pokemon will appear in Pokemon Sun and Moon. Who has pictures of these Pokemon?
What are you talking about?
It’s just some wacko
Permission to shoot?
www9.atwiki.jp/altair1
Wow, that’s awesome! If all these rumors are right, Pokémon Sun & Moon will be the very best generatio ever!
Poplio’s evo is so pretty. I’m going with it. Litten’s okay as long as it’s fire/dark.
So the bad news is my phone doesn’t remember my keychain passwords
The good news is my photos, Apple account, mail and notes seem to be fine
And I remembered to write down the insanely important ones
But I’m stuck at work and on the verge of a freak out, I need to make sure my IPad is safe
why not back it up, factory reset and then reupload your stuff again? unless i don’t understand this situation
Out of nowhere my phone seems to half-way reset itself and sees itself as a new phone
Like my Apple ID and YouTube sent me emails to allow my phone to access the stuff
But things such as my apps and notes and photos seem to be fine
All that matters is my iPad is safe
How Littens evolution was made:
Guy1: we need to come up with an evolution to Litten, something original
Guy2: how about we make it bipedal, like all the other fire starters and then make it a wrestler! But we won’t make it a fighting type because we already have 3 of those so let’s just make it a dark type. Fans will love it!
Guy 3: Hang on a sec…
Guy 1: Shut up Gav, this is genius
I dunno about that…in the artwork it’s clearly using Mat Block against Pikachu. Granted the only other pokemon that learns it is Greninja, but still
That’s not mat block. It’s slamming a table into Pikachu.
Wow that is freaking cool that Pokefans think alike yesterday me and my friend were talking what if Minior was a pre evolution of Solrock and Lunatone and today he send me a link of a video saying the same thing!! lol
Honestly I think they’re done with baby pokemon forever.
I honestly loved the concept behind baby Pokemon and more evos like gen 2 and 4, I know a lot of ppl don’t but I hope they do some more.
same
I think baby pokemon help bridge the gaps, but they’re really just useless and annoying outside of that.
True but me I just like having more mons overall
I wanted it to end up like my Astroid belt Pokemon Astorbit
Basically the same body but replace each of the points with a long golden spike and a whole cluster of tiny rocks swirling around its body
No. It must be named Grandior.
Cool idea but would it have a core as well and would it lose its ability
Against my personal intentions to withhold potentially harmful information I feel it’s my informatic duty to report any and all up to date info
Nintendo Everything has personally translated the Concept Art sheet and this is what it says about each
Rowlet
– Has a calm/cool persona
– Tightens its hood when its upset or irritated
– Uses its quills as arrows and vines as the string
– Its difficult to notice which helps it ambush foes
– It likes to rest on Tree branches
Litten
– Has a wild and gusty persona
– Fights dirty- spits ember in its opponents face, isn’t above using unconventional items or means
– Uses Fire Spin from its belt.
– Has a signature move called BeastTiger Swing
– That Belt gets hotter the more “passionate” it is.
Popplio
– Uses its voice to charm and or lure opponents
– Has a elegant and welcoming nature
– Is very playful
This sounds awesome. Litten3 is definitely sounding like a heel wrestler so I feel like he’ll end up being a fire/dark type which is great with me. Also Beast/Tiger swing sounds like an amazing name.
Listen, Alolan versions are a cool concept and all BUT if they wanna XY’it and make less pokemon because of them they can keep them. I cant have the amount of pokemon to be double digits..again..
They’ve revealed like 35 pokemon already, they’d be insane to reveal that many and not have at least 100 or so
My thoughts exactly
I truly feel this is a lazy excuse to avoid making new Pokemon
It’s not lazy, it’s smart. If they contiuened at the same rate, we would have 1000 pokes by gen 8. This is obviously a lot for one coherent video game franchise which is why they’ve began coming up with substitutes for making completely new pokes. It’s a great way to ensure longevity
I actually don’t mind. Because the Alolan Pokemon are in effect new Pokemon in themselves.
Considering they have new types, abilities, move pools and hopefully stats, I’m perfectly content with having around 100 new Pokemon and a bunch of Alolans.
They’re just being lazy with designs. And I don’t care much about designs anyway.
Around 100 is ideal to me. Kalos really felt like it was missing a lot, and i think like 30 more could fix that without being an overdose
honestly they are going to have the same amount of new pokemon regardless of weather or not they had introduced Alolan variants. Its like when people complained about the release of MM3D being made because they thought it would take away from developing a new game, but it doesn’t, and this doesn’t change anything. isn’t it just easier to except whats new (and they are new) and move on? because chances are they have had the new mons that are coming out in S/M planned for a while now and alolan variants are not taking away from then, but rather adding themselves to the already planned roster
I really don’t mind though. We already have a lot of pokemon so making something interesting for older ones is a good compromise
They are revealing completely new Pokemon at such a rate we have to have more than XY, but that may only be like 20 more. I don’t mind much though, the adaptations are a cool concept, but I fear your right.
Hey maybe we should go back thru the archives of pokejungle and ask the guy from back when xy came out that his dad or uncle worked for GF and got fired so he was leaking a bunch of stuff like the lack of post game and he even called it on the low count Pokemon.
Do you guys think that Sun and Moon will be the end of Pokemon? Or a complete reboot similar to Ruby and Sapphire? Very worried. This video has got me thinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPKq4lk1NQ
It may be the climax of a story arc, and it may be rebooted, but Pokemon is selling stronger than ever, and it won’t end until they are selling horribly. They won’t just drop such a cash cow.
I don’t think so. I feel like they would just come right out and say it if it was the last set of games. I imagine it’s only due to it being an anniversary year that they are putting it the way they are. Otherwise it would just be another game coming out like all the others lol
You’d have to be literally insane to end a series that makes as much money as Pokémon does.
Insanity sadly happens sometimes.
Disney Infinity?
Any one who thinks for one hot second pokemon will end soon is fucking dumb.
I know. I’m just paranoid. Lol.
It’s okay :3 we all are about something. That just means you care about pokemon
Pokemon is not going anywhere anytime soon.
Anybody in here? Lol.
There’s some people in chat, if you have discord.
My creative itch rashes up
Grogre (Grow and Ogre)
Grass/Water
A slimy shambling swamp monster covered in dirty dark green kelp and mud with seldom seen bright glowing yellow eyes, large lumbering fists, it has a single Lilly pad or lure weed atop its head to attract prey, and has a very large maw with large teeth but it rarely uses them, this Pokemon prefers complete solitude and will do anything to ward off unwelcome intruders
I don’t have a name, but think of a Pure Water crazed spiky Clam with a long sticky siphon tongue and large teeth and large eyes, they sit in the ocean floor In hopes to snag food with its tongue
Lastly Fighting/Flying Martial Arts Crane Kwonkrane
a tall elegant white and red Bird with an impressive wingspan, a long plume from the back of its head like a headband, and skinny yet powerful legs
Also to all you Steven Universe fans
Jasper is proving to be just like me in every way
…That’s not a good thing though…
Evil?…
I’m technically either Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral
Honestly it really matters on the scenario
I wouldn’t call complaining about every possible turn of events neutral
lol
yeah but jasper is really only bad so far
By that logic you’re as meaningful as Shadow the Hedgehog… That’s not a compliment btw.
Jasper is the abuser in an abusive relationship, I’m not sure you’d want that.
I just get so worried. Why must I be so worried all the time? I hate being paranoid. I know Sun and Moon are gonna be fantastic games and whatever next step they take with the series afterward will be just as great as well.
What are you worried about?
Pokemon’s fate. That Sun and Moon might be the end of Pokemon. And that this could be a huge reboot or afterward, that will change the game and take it in a bad direction.
it won’t be
I know. I’m just such a worrywart. I remember a teacher in my Middle School always called me “Mr. Worrywart”. Lol.
I used to be like you in that aspect, it took me a long time to get over it.
Think positive and take it easy!
I don’t think it would go in a bad direction, the games look like they are changing things that will only make the series better, at least in my opinion. I wouldn’t worry about it. Just take it as it comes, that’s my mentality 😉
I feel you. Not just Pokemon, but I subconsciously worry about a lot, can’t control it. The one thing I’m worried about in Pokemon is them making sun and moon too easy.
I wish they were called Snowpix and Icetails <3
Snowshrew and Snowslash
It should’ve been Snowshrew, Snowslash, Vulpice and Brinetails in my opinion, those names sound a lot better to me than just Alolan Sandshrew and Alolan Vulpix and whatnot :/ Still, very happy with their designs.
And Alolan Exeggutor Should be called Eggsneckutor (Or however it would be spelled
YES. That’s perfect and I love it ?
Yeesh where is everyone
This place was jam packed yesterday and now we’re staggering
Hello!
Shaddup
This is why
https://youtu.be/jSf6mo1Iojo
Shut the Heck up 🙂 this is a family friendly site 🙂
Bite me
Deerlia uses Bite!
Bleh, it tastes like failure…
Don’t break your teeth toots
alright it’s time for 4 Island discussion: when i looked at the map of Alola, I think this Island has 3 4’s the layout is this:
Oricorio Typings-Fire/Electric/Ghost/Psychic.
Trial Captains-Fire/Electric/Grass/Water.
Islands-Fire/Ice/Grass/Ground
What does it all mean?
Ah, well all indications point to the Trial Captains having the similar guardian typings as Oricoro, except replace Flying with Fairy.
Also I’m not sure where you got the islands part… help me understand this. <3
it’s got to do something with Tapu Koko.
Well I mean, are those the primary typings for Pokemon found in each island? What do you mean when you’re assigning types to islands, basically.
just a theory,the islands is a mystery.
Ah I see.
Turns out the park at the end of my street is an electabuzz nest, caught 2 over 900cp today, but i’m going to california in 2 days so i won’t get to appreciate it :/
Won’t the nest still be there when you get back?
(Unless you’re moving out in which case… insert Vader scream here.)
So in this rare moment I’m allowing one more Alolan Variant to exist
Place your bets
It’ll be a Ground-type Magikarp and Gyarados.
A more serious entry please
Completely serious. I’m sorry if that’s not your type. <3
rhyperior, steel/ground
oh you’re allowing it are you? Arceus really must be shining down on us…
Oh heavens no
I’m just gauging on how serious or stupid the entries play out
I’m being serious about mine
there was sarcasm in my post, but lets hear yours then eh?
Even the coolest concepts earthen is against. The only game that earthen will give 10/10 to is Pokemon Rhyperior, where every gym and Elite Four only has a Rhyperior, and the starters are all rhyhorn.
Hell no, I’m the Rhyperior guy
I don’t need others jacking my style
My vote goes to Vileplume
Either Vileplume in the Alolan Region also have absorbed so much intense sunlight over the generations their petals have gone into overdrive, they’re so effing gigantic that strong enough winds cause them to be hoisted into the air and even glide by adjusting their petals, after years of being airborne they mastered their petals in away that they can achieve flight by spinning into the air like a propeller
Grass/Flying
So it would turn into hoppip?
Ehhhhhh in a way, it’s better then the uninspired generic super Vileplume
Or Grass/Fairy Bellossum
The petals double in length and point out and thin out
They have a pinkish orange color with yellow spots, the “hole” rounds out and has three stigmas
It’s actual body actually turns a brighter aqua color, it’s little arms and legs are a bit longer and leaf like
And lastly it learns Acrobatics, Air Slash, Gust and now Bounce
Nothing like hurricane or brave bird, since it can’t actually fly with its petals more like spinning its body and the angle of the petals achieves updraft and it just kinda falls with style
I imagine Marowak is gonna gain the fire type in some way. It’s apparently Kiawe’s Pokemon partner so I think it’ll have a Alolan form
Esplain your vision
Well Idk if I have a vision really. I don’t think it’ll lose the ground typing, but I think they’ll add Fire type since Kiawe is a fire type trainer lol Would you be mad if they got rid of the ground typing? hahaha
Fire Dancer. The bone is like a torch.
yeah, in the screenshot, he says he wants to test “your powers of observation, by watching a dance”. firedancing is a Hawaiian tradition that uses batons lit on fire, that’s kinda how I mimagine marowak will be, its bones will be fire batons.
Actually yeah you basically are saying what many people I’ve seen said. It makes sense as the bone could basically be the baton lol
oh lol I just kinda made that up. neat that others have thought the same thing.
It does make sense tho hahaha
Nidoking!
Oh too late.
Dark/Psychic Ariados or Fire/Grass Bellossom
Honestly Bellossum was my second choice
It finally being a big girl and actually look like a final evolution then that puny size
Dark/fire Sneasel that adapted the fire type to help it take down bug and grass types when it was forced to live in the jungle.
……wouldn’t it have just adapted to the jungle and just be either pure Dark, or at the very least Dark/Poison
Bug/Fairy or perhaps Bug/Psychic Volcarona. To adapt to the moonlit hawaiian nights, Volcarona has learned to adapt to the abundant moon beams that it can harness in battle. I think it would make a cool exclusive to moon, while regular Volcarona is for sun, if it can work like that. Not sure how day/night cycles are going to work, just that the rumors suggest they’re different for each game
I wonder if that will be considered taboo in Volcarona ways
I mean they’re supposed replace the sun when it covers in ash
But I can see the Bug/Psychic since it absorbed the cosmic rays reflected onto it from the moon, it’s scales turned white and now basks in moonlight to gain power
The post-apocalyptic Volcarona, in other words?
Well When volcanic ash darkened the atmosphere, it is said that Volcarona’s fire provided a replacement for the sun.
Yes, that sounds wonderful. With perhaps some light green and pink in there. It would be cool if maybe this Volcarona could replace the moon in pokelore, if it would ever happen. That, or just give me a luna moth that can rival my love for it
Fire/Ground or just pure fire type Marowak. It could use a bone as some kind of double sided Torch and it’s skull could be on fire too.
I’m starting another playthrough on Platinum using only Pokemon I’ve never used before and I’m wondering which one would be better, Milotic or Mantine and Beautifly or Mothim?
Id go mantine and mothim personally, but thats because I like them more
well, if I had to make a suggestion, i’d recommend mothim. its not easy to use in any other region besides sinnoh (due to it being kinda not easy to find in other regions)
Thanks everyone for the feedback! Mothim seems to be the most liked choice so I’ll try it out.
I’d say milotic and mothim.
i love mantine so much
Mothim is just the worst thing you can do for your team
But I’ve already used Scizor, Heracross, Drapion and Dustox as my bugs in playthroughs before. I refuse to use that piece of feces known as Wormadam
Siiiign me too dood…..
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh you need a bug right?
Yes
I’m Nuzlocking platinum. I’ve decided to put myself through that insanity a second time and see how it turns out (the first time it went horribly, and this one is off to a bad start, I crit my route 202 (I think?) catch.)
That sucks! I recently did a wonderwedlocke on X and stopped around the 5th badge because my Shiny Beautifly died and I was pissed
I was going to do a nuzlocke of platinum but decided against it because I couldn’t use an emulator with fast forward.
So desmume don’t have fast forward?
I use an old-ish phone for emulation. I did a nuzlocke of Firered and Sapphire before.
Oh. I see.
Generally android emulators don’t have FF I guess?
Milotic & Beautifly
Milotic and… why not Pinsir?
Already used a Pinsir before. Actually really liked it too!
Ah, well it wasn’t on the list below, so I though I’d suggest it. 🙂
Milotic and Heracross. If not Heracross then Beautifly
I honestly love both Milotic and Mantine. I don’t know about your bugs though. I’d try Yanmega, Vespiquen or Kricketune?
Question for everyone: How many shinies have you found throughout you Pokemon career? Not counting ones received over wonder trade. I’ve found 8: Zubat, Azurill, Espurr, Sealeo, Patrat, Horsea and Lillipup
Incidental shinies: 7 – Foonguss, Nidoran-F, Cacturne, Whimsur, Zigzagoon, Sandshrew, Wingull
Hunted shinies: 1 – Froakie. (I gave up after this try heh heh.)
The only time I tried to get a certain shiny was when I MM scythers. I gave up after 1000 eggs though
I gave up because I didn’t get Hidden Ability 😀
But I might try MM again, this time for things that don’t require HA to be good, like Krookodile.
I thought about trying again with Joltik this time. Although I would be disappointed if I got a shiny with unnerve instead of Compound Eyes
Something that can be fixed easily with Ability Capsule at least.
200 BP well spent.
Zero besides red gyarados and shiny give away rayquaza. Although I don’t hunt for them.
I don’t hunt for them either. I prefer finding them at random. It’s more enjoyable for me to find them that way
4. Geodude, Poliwag, Basculin and Skrelp.
I’ve always wanted a shiny poliwag
I can’t even remember if I still have mine.
Hmmmm I think I’m making my way towards 90 sum Pokemon? I need to consolidate my collection. I’m hunting on three different games essentially. X, Y, and OR
That’s awesome. I don’t have the patience to hunt for them
3: Ralts, Duskull, and Mawile.
i had 2 boxes full of them in XY
65, My first ever caught shiny was a shiny confagrisgus in pokemon black version.
Not counting event ones: Scraggy, Pinsir, Drifloon, and, proudly, Turtwig.
I have like… 32? 33? Something like that haha. I haven’t hunted in a really long time.
Hmmm sets seeeee maybe like 20ish
I honestly never hunt for Shinies
But I do value my very first one
http://orig12.deviantart.net/27c2/f/2013/311/b/e/shiny_marowak_global_link_art_by_trainerparshen-d6teu1p.png
I think 45-ish? The ones I found randomly were Druddigon (X) Yanma (X) an Weedle(Soul Silver)
oh jeeze. over 50 in x and y/ORAS alone. not counting those? probably like… 70ish total, if that doesn’t include ones that got away (damn you regice, damn you AA batteries!)
I no longer have my shiny Stoutland. I accidentally erased my X save file with it on there. As well as about 300 Pokemon. Damn brain thinking I had my Y version in the DS. RIP all those pokes lol
Wow. That sucks.
It really did. I almost cried lol
I’ll have you know I murdered a shiny Stoutland and his friends and I only cried for 20 minutes.
Wow. I’m ashamed of it, but 2. One Meditite in Y and a Bibarel in the Safari Zone that ran away in my brother’s Platinum that I was playing.
Don’t feel bad. I never had a shiny until I found a shiny Azurill during a nuzlocke run in black 2 a couple years ago. I still only have found 7 total
Pidgeotto, Basculin, Mime Jr, Whismur, Boldore, Misdreavus (this was hatched and unintentional), Graveler (used explosion…had sturdy too), Zubat, Seaking….i believe that’s it as far as wild shinies go
Oh Breloom from FS
My first shiny is Rattata I evolve him as will…that from GS ……in BW I catch Mienfoo ,just those how poor I am.
when I was younge I remmber my brother run when he battled with shiny Tentacruel.
Golbat, Tangela (Sinnoh Safari Zone, almost had a heart attack), Zubat, Altaria, Litleo (female), Tentacool
I’ve been playing since Red and have only found 4 so far. Hippopotas in Platinum, Rattata in HG, Luvdisc and Arbok in X.
My first shiny was a golbat in HGSS (first run, and it was random)…. Second was a croagunk in XY and most recent was crazy! I found a shiny Gyarados in Pokemon gold (re playing it) at lake of rage!
No but my most recent one was actually a swinub…
Wow a shiny Gyarados in Gold is so rare 😛
To the people who keep trying to rename the new Alola Vulpix and Ninetails:
Neither of their names have anything to do with fire, therefore don’t warrant any sort of ice-inspired adjectives up in there. Just sayin’.
Sandshrew on the other hand
Yeah…I like the fan names of Snowshrew and Snowslash that I’ve seen here
Yo
don’t know why people are trying to rename them. they are just an ordinary vulpix and ninetails.
No they’re Vulpix and Ninetails icy versions, their fur looks different..
no. they are a normal ninetails and vulpix. according to the lore, its just normal for them to look like that. its misleading to say otherwise.
From Nintendo’s Sun and Moon website:
It is said that Vulpix came to the Alola region together with humans, but the Fox Pokémon moved to the snowy mountain peaks to avoid the normal habitats of other Pokémon, and thus it ended up taking on this form.
These Alolan Vulpix live on high mountains that remain covered in snow year-round. They live in small packs of two to five individuals, helping one another survive.
Alolan Vulpix can freeze anything solid by expelling breath at a temperature of −58 degrees Fahrenheit (−50° C) from its mouth. It doesn’t fare well in the heat, but when the temperature gets too high, it produces ice from its tail to lower the surrounding temperature.
Alolan Ninetales live on a snowy peak that is revered in the Alola region as a holy mountain. They are treated as sacred emissaries, and people meet them with awe and fear. This Pokémon’s personality is extremely gentle, and at times it has helped humans who seem to be in distress. However, it shows no mercy at all to anyone or anything that dares to damage its territory!
The Alolan Ninetales is able to produce ice crystals from the fur that covers its body. It can use these ice crystals to block attacks, or it can form balls of ice with them, which it fires like bullets at opponents. The power of these ice missiles is great enough to pulverize rock!
That sounds to me like they deserve their own species names, related to the ‘original’ species’ names, but different. And if you look at the ‘original’ Vulpix and Ninetails and look at their new Alolan counterparts side by side you can clearly see their fur is different than it was on the originals. Their fur is adapted more for cold, windy weather. Hence, their fur is different, not just in color but in its ‘design’.
But they are ordinary vulpix/ninetailes, despite having a different typing and appearence. Both fire and ice type vulpix are ordinary vulpix. Just like how shellos is still just a shellos despite its appearance, or vivillon as well.
Right but the difference is that this time it’s not just the appearance of the Pokemon that’s changed, it’s the typing too. This has never happened before that I know of, and a Pokemon adapting to its new environment from fire to ice type seems like a very drastic change to me, so why not change the names a little bit as well to show that these are still very closely related to Vulpixes but that they’re essentially their own new species. That is how I feel.
yeah I could understand if someone put it that way.
I wonder what the evolution method for Alola Vulpix will be.
Maybe a Dawn Stone?
Could be like Eevee into Glaceon, with an ice rock thing.
Well if you think about it logically, Vulpix, which presumably originated from the Kanto region, learned to evolve when it came into contact with the power of fire stones found there. So, seeing as how it is not longer a fire type, it must be a different kind of stone because it can’t harness the fire stones power. The ice rock for Glaceon is plausible. Perhaps level up holding an icy rock.
I’d love for them to finally add an ice stone to the game
Shiny stone or dawn stone most likely
Y not at icy rock like Glaceon ?
Well I just joined here today, so hello!!
I like Rowlet’s evo, but wish it looked a bit less human…
Welcome!
Thanks! And hello! :3
Oh. Hi. I didn’t see you there 🙂
Welcome! Great to have a new person here 😀
Heya! :3
Always great to see new faces around here!
Hehe! Thanks! :3 Glad to hear
Welcome ! Hope you have a good time here in the jungle 😀
Thank you! I appreciate it
You know I’m still kinds hoping these are fake but if they turn out to be true they have kinda grown especially Popplio’s evolution.
Same for me. (But not Litten’s though. It should try to cross a crowded highway while playing GO.)
I found an In-game model of Exeggutor Alola’s Tail-Head. I’m using it.
Happy Nightmares (Refresh)
(Also, Good Night :))
that’s cute.
These alola exeggutor ones are the best
wat about that? http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470195843529.jpg
he said hey yo I am dragon.
This just makes me think of Ratboy Genius…
I officially have all 720 available Pokemon in North America thank Arceus!!! And it’s very ironic that I needed him to complete it. lol
Great Job!
Thank you
Living dex? Congrats!
Yes living dex it took me a while cause I started completing since Platinum and some of the starters had to get them female to breed out their evolution.
Ah nice. Didn’t you just use a Ditto, or you had a strict “Pokemon have to come from the correct Region” living dex.
I started with platinum so no ditto yet once I got HGSS it got easier with ditto and then when I got BW no ditto again so had to just breed them and by the time XY got out I just needed those and legendaries and mostly from gen 4
I have em’ too, but my last one was manaphy
Walking Pokémon with alolan exeggutor (like pokemon yellow and pokemon HGSS)?????
It could be a hint that walking Pokemon isn’t in. 🙂
I just had an interesting shower thought ?what if the rumor that ninetales would have a fire/fairy Alola form is still true. But it would be exclusive to sun and the ice/fairy would be exclusive to moon. I think some popular pokemon could gain more than just one Alola variant similar to how Mewtwo and Charizard gained two mega evolutions each. And just like what happened with mega charizard y and mega mewtwo y, you wouldn’t know about an alternate form because it wouldn’t be revealed until sometime in the future ☺
I KILL UOOOooooh. http://pre02.deviantart.net/899d/th/pre/f/2016/215/f/8/choae_by_dasterendermanalbino-dachr6z.png
Get that blasphemy outta here
I take order from no body ……..I will post more and more about him so deal with it.
Okay sir o///////o
Haven’t read all the comments but has anyone noticed that the ridable Pokemon seems like a potential way to get rid of hms since they can Ben called on at any time?!
Exactly. I think that’s it for hm’s. I saw rock smash, rock climb(horizontally), surf and fly gone because of these pokemon. Sun and Moon are really changing things.
Alola Form Honedge and Doublade.
http://pre12.deviantart.net/49a4/th/pre/i/2016/214/4/6/honedge___alola_form_by_locomotive111-dacem8d.png
http://pre01.deviantart.net/8760/th/pre/i/2016/214/7/2/doublade___alola_form_by_locomotive111-dacemmy.png
As mentioned before these should be Grass/Ghost or Water/Ghost. It says “they are made of durable wood and the teeth of carnivorous sea Pokémon and created by water spirits inhabiting these weapons”
I think Honedge Inspired from fish hook , and Doublade inspired from pirate’s sword …yeah ur right Grass/Ghost or Water/Ghost make more sense.
Inspired from Moana, perhaps?
Nice fake
Omg
So curtain call, meaning they die?
Seriously though, where are we now in broadcast order?
I suspect these to be fake though. I got them from a popular Poketuber’s Twitter account. This pic suggests that episode 43 marks the start of Ash’s Elite 4 challenge, but the recently revealed data broadcasts had Greninja as the episode 43 focus. Why would they dedicate an entire episode to 1 Pokémon, if its really about a Elite 4 challenge?
That’s comically fake ? Its just written so badly and trying too hard to make fans believe it’s the finale of Ashs Pokémon journey.
What each e4 battle is one episode?
This scream fake so badly.
LOL ikr? But I want this to happen for Ash, he and we deserve this.
He deserves to get creamed by a bus
Yes but please after he wins a league conference
ARE THESE ACTUAL EPISODE NAMES????
IF THIS IS I’M FREAKING HYPED
When will this news confirmed?
There’s new info coming on the 12th. so who knows maybe then.
As far as I’m going back to think, the only sold proof is these pictures
I do not believe any of the 4Chan stuff unless it happens word for word
Well that’s a coincidence! I just learned about Sophocles in college ? Aparently he was a big theatre guy in greece who decipted their daily lives and some philosophical questions (in this case I studied the Antigone, which talked about Law)
Phat gnerd
I had to read the euremides!
Guys. Here’s some old art of Exeggutor. Looks like they even drew it before.
(Refresh)
Wow is that how its tail face (your profile pic) looks?? LOOL it’s like a derp face
Yeah. I love it 😀
How odd is it that a Pokemon based off of several broken eggs evolves into a coconut/ palm tree Pokemon, right? I remember being a kid and being like wtf is up with this guy? And what’s their typings again? I forgot ?
Exeggcute is Grass/Psychic (Wut?) And Exeggutor is Grass/Psychic, but Alolan Exeggutor is Grass/Dragon.
Huh yeah I looked it up last night and I was like alright well exeggutor being grass/ psychic kind of makes sense to me and so does Alolan exeggutor being grass/ dragon, I just think exeggcute is like the oddest Pokemon ever, but people were basically saying that they’re coconut seeds disguised as eggs (?) and that they’re psychic because they communicate with one another psychicly. Is that a word, psychicly?
I think it’s a word.
Yup, psychically. 😉
Here’s some Ken Sugimori art.
It reminds me of Gulpin lol
Hey all! I’m new here and was so excited by all this news I just had to make an account and comment!
While looking through all the news and rumors my creative juices started flowing. I came up with a sort of theory for how they can handle the elite four/champion without a league or gyms. And it has to do with the rumor that Blue, Lance, Zinnia, Chnthia, Looker, and AZ will all be in the game. They, with the exception of Looker, will act as an elite four of sorts and champion.
Hi Iyce, nice to see a new person. I was actually thinking Looker might be in the game too but I forgot why I thought that .-.
I’ll get back to you.
Thanks! Glad to be welcomed! And I’d love to see your ideas on looker when you remember lol
Welcome! I wonder what case looker will be investigating this time.
I’m wondering the same thing tbh. Maybe something to do with the evil team, (if there even is one lol). Another thing I just noticed is that these six characters represent the past six generations
Welcome to the jungle! The people here are awesome, overall. Hope you like your stay!
So my yearning to capture a Rockruff has urged me to think of a sample list of Rockruff’s moves
Tackle
Sand Attack
Rock Throw
Odor Sleuth
Howl
Bite
Endure
Rock Polish
Work Up
Roar
Rock Blast
Crunch
Stone Edge
Play Rough
Out of all Pokemon Rockruff I believe will be one that will be the center of my team, a Playful, loyal fighter who won’t back down an inch
With lax nature. XD
My Charizard was Lax….and my very first Blaziken
But as much as I like the extra Defense
Adamant is best nature
I love Rockruff.
I foresee that how I encounter mine is that it just randomly leaps out of the bushes and snags my food, and it actually begins to be affectionate but the moment it senses a battle it fights to its last breath
Also my soon to be Mudbray is stubborn, and extremely territorial about mud and shown to be a freaking powerhouse and resourceful at using muddy battlefields to win (like splashing a wave of mud to block an attack and using the slipperiness to speed up)
Mine would just start following me like a little puppy does, and I imagine mine very playful, just like my own dog
You sound like you’re in the anime
Well that’s the mindset I like to project onto my games
I never play a game like a game, I live the game and I become the game
I put my mind in shoes of the player and envision if I was in there
I’m questioning who thought Rock/Dark was ever a good idea, cause that type is kinda trash.
But hey, it has other evos so
Tyranitar is one of top Pokemon in the metagame….despite 7 Weaknesses
Yeah but it also has a lot of other things going for it.
Personallly I don’t see rockruff having that strong evolutions, and I doubt they’ll be near as strong as t-tar so
Oh please it has Sandstorm backing it up otherwise it’s preyed upon anything
Not as many things as Rhypherior
I can get behind Rowlet and Litten’s final evolution but there is something about Popplio’s that just doesn’t connect with me… It looks too different and it’s not because it seems very feminine. I don’t know, we will have to wait and see what types they all get and what the second evolution looks like. I’m thinking its Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark, Water/Paychic (if it is based on a siren, they sang songs to trick their prey into thinking they were something else, very psychic which is why I say that instead of Fairy).
I’m emotionally torn
I spent all this time fantasizing about having an adventure with Popplio but now if it’s going to end out that He-Whore
I want Popplio but I want it to turn into Litten’s evo
But I don’t want to pick Litten unless it evolves like super fast
Hell no, there is Samurott for a macholookingsealthing =/
I don’t want them to evolve fast. That’s what happened in X & Y and it was lame. You had your final evolution starter long before the last gym leader.
At the beginning I was Litten and Popplio all the way. If this is true, I don’t know. It had so much potential! But we will see I guess. Maybe it’ll be an awesome Pokemon.
You don’t have to like everything. I do believe that Popplio’s final is Water/Fairy as it appears to be a beautiful siren. Plus, we could use another Water/Fairy type. We already got Bruxish, it doesn’t mean that we cannot get one. We don’t even know the type of the starters.
Bruxish is Water/Psychic I’m pretty sure.
Not saying I have to like everything just expressing my opinion on the topic at hand. That’s what these are for correct? Discussions?
Honestly, I understand where Popplio’s design is coming from, it just….. needs something
Something… There is something missing.
The mythical aspect of a siren seems more likely to be labeled fairy. Like a fairy tale. Theyre enchanting. Not mind-controlling.
It amazes me how many people actually come to this site. Commenters aside, the reaction counters show it and it’s like over 2000!
As Zinnia is predicted to return to S/M, I really am wondering her role. We know after OR/AS she begun to journey the world. I’m not surprised she’s making her way to the allow region. Personally, I think that she will be giving you a Key Stone. I don’t know if she returned Maxie or Archie’s Key Stone after the events of the Delta Episode. So, she might have a spare Key Stone and demonstrate Mega Evolution to the player.
She should be Ash’s companion in Alola
Personally, I loved Zinnia so I’m super glad she’s coming back.
She honestly didn’t do much just 2 battles and talk your ear off over half a dozen dialogue exchanges
Just saying, that picture is of him swinging Machamp in a circle.
I knew the Pokemon franchise needed a Mermaid/Siren Pokemon, but I didn’t know how it should look like. Then I saw Popplio’s final evolution and I thought: YES. Perfect design for it tbh. I guess the thing that throws people off is the fact that Popplio doesn’t seem the least bit feminine but I guess no one else can throw a curveball like Gamefreak can.
That’s tru. I heard Masuda can throw a mean curveball on Pokemon GO
I used to hate Popplio but litten3 made me love it now x) I’m getting a female one and calling it Calypso.
Volcanion’s finally get a western release, final Pokemon I need to complete my X sex and have all 721!
Language haha
There are moments when autocorrect helps…
I don’t think this was one of them
WOOOHOOO!!!! Yeah!! Complete that X sex!!! Volcanion is all I need to complete mine too!! lol
So I don’t know about you guys, but I’m still in shock that we got actual leaks so early in the season! I mean we got the starters on May 10th and then less than a month later we technically got the final evolutions! What are the odds such a huge leak would happen? lol
Same thoughts.
? Love your avi by the way.
“• Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter”
I keep wondering about this. If this is true, than Rowlet could still evolve into a Grass/Ground-type burrowing owl. Litten can evolve into a quadrupedal Fire-type BEAST, and Popplio could evolve into a more masculine looking version of its supposed siren-like final evolved form. This could be that connection that Rockruff has with the starter Pokémon. This might just make everyone happy.
Y’know what? I hate the idea of multiple starter evolutions as it messes with an established pattern in an impractical and uncalled for way, but if we got exactly those three alternate evos, I’d be completely behind the idea. Yay for 2 awesome Rowlet evos and half the others being at least sound in concept!
Hi there – firstly, hello everybody as I’m new here (but been following the comments and website for the past few years!!).
To reply to Claus, I feel mixed about the split final evolutions, but it could potentially work especially with GF already trying out new things this gen. I know a few people have mentioned different genders, and it could work – Pyroar worked enough, and both female and male are quite distinct. Who knows.
Bye
https://youtu.be/uBJ7yENNbTE
Yadda Yadda
VOLCANION: ATTACK ON EXEGGUTOR
(ATTACK ON TITAN THEME PLAYS IN THE DISTANCE AS ALOLAN EXEGGUTOR CRASH THROUGH THE WALLS)
Exeggutor lookin like my peepee and i wiz kid all over the region in my humble ass yucatan burrito and it’s neato
#get schwifty
I shall call him Exneckutor from henceforth, that shall be his name. 🙂 (copyrights belong to SpectralSeraph on that one) 🙂
Hey guys don’t go hard on this tall dude. Remember the 1997 promotion and the fact that they say it is his true form, exeggutor was propably meant to have a neck like this, but when they made a sprite back in the days a neck like this was a pain in the ass. Now we have the size difference in battle and he can finally come to his true glory. Agree? Xp
Huh, Poplio’s final evolution doesn’t look too bad.
Not as awesome as I was hoping but yeah, looks pretty cool.
new leak of 4chan but was quickly eliminated
http://ldm.r1-it.storage.cloud.it/img/16/8/4/1414_57a26a74353b43.33502816.jpg
Looks like a new Pokeball launcher, maybe for either Sun and Moon, Pokemon GO, or the remake of Diamond and Pearl for the NX.
Unfortunately, the picture is a miniature discussion on 4chan has been removed
New styles for my #1 favorite Pokemon, Furfrou?! O, Frabjous Day…! Please let that be true. I love canine Pokemon, and am really interested in the new feline ones as well. Was wondering what cute little Rockruff would evolve into. 😮 Pretty excited about the apparent mushroom (related to Foongus & Amoonguss at all??) snowmen, sea cucumber (lol…Kevin?), & dolphin, too.
Oh, boy, those starter evolutions. Litten is easily my favorite of the starters, but I don’t like its evolution. Rowlet’s is cool, but Popplio’s is my favorite. However, it’s strange to consider such a feminine merseal thing evolving from a Pokemon who instantly reminded me of Stefano from Madagascar 3. o.O
It’s cool how some of the Alolan forms of 1st-gen Pokes evolved into “opposite” types from the original forms. I’m especially in love with the Ice ones revealed–ESPECIALLY the beautiful Ninetales and Vulpix, as those are two of my all-time favorites in the first place. And Ice is just so pretty. Exeggutor has always been another G1 fave, and its hyper-longnecked form is, um…cute? Hey, long as it serves its evolutionary purpose. ;p
Oricorio took inspiration from the birds of paradise of New Guinea…them are island birds the come in many styles and dance to attract mates, finches do not. Evolution of birds is not solely depicted in the Galapagos.
True; birds-of-paradise are pretty awesome too.
BIG Scoop (SPOILERS:)
some new leaks have been given about the 12th August video (credit going to Reddit)
So, that new trailer on the 12th is going to reveal anywhere between 2-5 new Alolan Pokemon forms. The Pokémon I do know that are confirmed are: Marowak, getting Ground and Fire, and Arcanine getting Dragon and Water.
The starter’s evolutions will be shown, the names are Robingroot, Panthster, and Entermaid, (yes those Chinese leaks are real).
7 new Pokémon will be revealed, including a dolphin Pokémon, Rockruff’s evolution, and a new guardian deity Pokémon.
Mega Evolution will be returning.
Also Middle evos for the starter names:
Grottowl and Felithe and Searen – THe themes are British Folklore – Robin Hood, Ogre and Mermaid. Also new Alolan forms for Poliwrath and Politoed. Leak also says islands names are Akele, Ula Ula and Poni Island. AND MARSHADOW IS GHOST / FIRE.
Marowak: Fire/Ground. Slowbro: Pure Dragon. Poliwrath: Fire/Fighting Golem: Rock/Fire Doduo, Dodrio: Flying/Fighting.Abra evolutions: Psychic/Fighting. Onix: Ice/Steel. Vileplume: Grass/Fire.
No MSlowking/AFSlowking?
Source?
Here–> https://redd.it/4w359h
Are you sure it’s Robinroot, not Robingroot
I rather Robinghoot
This might be fake you know?
Another person claiming to be from Game Freak? The sort of thing 4Chan might come up with.
Also, Grottowl sounds too close to grotle, and both names for the finals, plus the picture of the mid evo above have been proven fake. But I’ve just put them up for fun to speculate, just until the 12th Augest announcement comes out.
Even so, I was right about the final evolution sheets being from Game Freak. Along with many others who have kept their hopes up.
well that guy is wrong marowak is fire/ghost not ground/fire
Sounds Interesting but why did Arcanine’s type suddenly change from just water to water/dragon?
Wow.
Can’t wait to see Grass/Fire Vileplume!
Ice-Onix should be pretty…like Regice & Cryogonal (or ‘Sibereon,’ the Eeveelution I’d drawn as a kid, before Glaceon was discovered. ;p)
And Felithe sounds as though it might have a nice design.
So this is the starters thus far (not 100% Confirmed) excluding what Felithe and Searen would look like. But the description for this so-called fake Owl Pokemon who’s the mid evolution of Rowlet, Grottowl, does seem to fit the description of it being a barn owl with green wings. Though official or not, we’ll have to wait until the 12th Augest.
Empoleon, you have just met your Robingroot!
the suspense is killing me
I have to say if these are indeed our final evolutions they are really growing on me. instantly loved rowlets and littens is really growing on me as well as poplios slowly growing on me.
I hope that non-gen 1 pokemon get Alolan forms too.
YES
lol so many are complaining and Im just sitting about to explode from excitement
i dont know which version of the game i should get because apparently time works differently in both versions and also what if there are some pokemon which are only exclusive to one game.
i dont really think there was a need to make exeggutor a dragon and grass because now it is 4x weak against ice type. Also i dont see what aspect of the alolan form adds the impact of a dragon. But then again game freak do base their dragon types off of dinosaurs like tyrantrum (T-rex) and exxegutor looks like a diplodocus so i guess that accounts for its typing. With the new form the def and sp def stats are raised considerably to compensate for the lack of speed but the moveset hasn’t changed overall apart from the new Z-move which is available for every type. So in my opinion, it’s not the best pokemon to have in your team but it does look really funny and so i won’t hate.
im so hyped for furfrous new styles
YES
“The previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older games”
I can’t remember where, but didn’t they already say if you bring a Pokemon with an Alolan form into the new games it will keep its old form?
Plus, it wouldn’t make sense for the Alolan forms to only be obtainable by bringing them in to Sun and Moon since Alolan form Pokemon are supposed to have adapted to conditions in Alola over time, so Alolan form Pokemon should be native to the region.
Two evos for each starter? Yes, please.
No water arcanine this proves it
https://youtu.be/6wyy-DhwYXI
We saw a Non-Alolan Meowth in the Player House but now we have the Alolan Form, so, it isn’t debunked yet.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that’s because it’s a Kanto Meowth cause the player’s family just moved in from Kanto.
Yeah, but the point is: we have saw Meowth first in its “Normal” Form, then in its Alolan one.
It could happen the same with Arcanine, ’cause the developers can obviously decide what things show.
Perhaps you could be right, though they’ve covered up pretty much every pokemon with an alolan form from their pics and trailers. When they show an alolan pokemon they casually haven’t showed it’s normal form in a battle before they premiered it. And it’s would be more than logical if that specific Meowth was their house pet and they took it with them in when they moved to Alola. Arcanine might have a chance of having an Alolan form but i highly doubt it due to consistencies they’re doing with the pokemons that don’t have Alolan forms and the ones that do but let’s leave it at that for now it’s just a waiting game to see which pokemons do and don’t have alolan forms.
I’m more worried that sitting hasn’t been confirmed for sun and moon.
Well the sea cucumber has just been confirmed as well
Yeah I hope we get more info on the 12th
There’s leaks showing the mushroom pokemon.
New Pokemon Namakobushi hidden in CoroCoro leak, Theory and Trivia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkfY7IaEZ9c
mushroom pokemon leaked as well – this is starting to be believeable mates
Get schooled by Wishiwashi & New Pokémon from Sun and Moon! https://youtu.be/qnRKT4YtRyQ
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-make-harambe-a-pok%C3%A9mon
Bit of an old thread to be targetting, try something newer.
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/11/812-new-pokemon-sun-moon-trailers/
Yeah but why are u here as well, I was just matching the rumors with the trailers that came out today
I had the tab still open and came over to close it.
Saw a new comment and was wondering “who’s posting on this old article?”.
Found the answer, forwarded the link to the newer article.
i don’t think that littens final evo is holding two of its middle evos i think its swinging another one of it.
Pikipek is confirmed 731, so the starters can’t have 2 evolutions each at the end, as Volcanion is 721, so Rowlett is 722, making evolution 1 723, and final evolution 724, Litten is 725, so it takes up 726 and 727 and Popplio is 728, making up 729 and 730, so theres no room for them all to have a second evolution.
Could be a form difference rather than actually counting it is a different pokemon
Is there literally never again going to be another Pokemon League?
I’m full-on attracted to Entermaid and I’m proud
That IS a rather suggestive name, too…
welp the werewolf Rockruff evo in this is true too now so this leak is looking to be mostly legit
We gotthe rugby monkey today! This is proving to be even more right!
Why did you slash over the Rattata and Raticate? We got that confirmed. Yeah, they didn’t mention the normal typing would stay, but they’re still dark types.
This needs updating, because Alolan Rattata and Raticate where shown and they’re Dark types. One of Rockruff’s evolution is based on a Werewolf but only if you evolve it during a certain time of day. The sea cucumber Pokemon is Pyukumuku, the mushroom Pokemon is Morelull and the rugby monkey is Passimian.
I believe you misread that. What they mean is: if you want a regular vulpix or regular sandshrew, you will not be able to obtain them in the Alola region. They will need to come from another region.
I was just stating what I thought. Don’t need to get over analytical on it.
Ash-greninja does appear in the games, and is named as such.
why the hell was the 4chan leaks crossed out? they seem to be legit
Hey you look at that. The 4Chan rumour was right. Ash-Greninja IS appearing on the game
My Moon team (Possibly)
Starter: Rowlet- Grass/Flying
Pokemon #1: JANGMO-O- Dragon
Pokemon #2: Wishiwashi- Water
Pokemon #3: Vikavolt- Bug/Electric
Pokemon #4 Mimikyu- Ghost/Fairy
Pokemon #5 Mudsdale- Ground
Notes: If there’s a Psychic types, then I might add one to my team
There’s are no Fire Types, because I don’t like them honestly, I never did honestly
I loved the alolan forms, but for right now I use to start with the new Pokemon first
GIve me my damn snowman or some ice type.
So looking at these after the new trailer that shows the 2nd stage of the starters they look plausible appart from Litten’s I swear Nintendo if you give us another fucking fire fighting I will kill myself.
Aw, disappointed to see the Furfrou one crossed out. 🙁
still think its amazing how early the starters evolutions leaked
I’d like to ask that you please uncross out these two. They have been confirmed already and people reading this that didn’t before and may not have be up to date with any of the trailers or be keeping track through their Twitter or tried the demo, may possibly be out of the loop.
The anime’s Ash-Greninja will appear in the game <—Confirmed(You get it in the demo)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct7nfEjVYAASzAe.jpg
Alolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-type <—-Confirmed(even if just half Dark)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrRgdAIUkAA3Zys.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrriAxCUsAAqvWE.jpg
I like that you're keeping track though, just make sure you keep this up to date so people don't get confused. I know some people don't follow all the offical sources, some people prefer to get all their details off forums.
Please and thank you~.
its still possible for alolan butterfree, niddoking/queen, growlith/archanine, and the rest to get alolan forms
the full pokedex wasnt released
normal Butterfree has been seen
guessing you haven’t seen the leaked full Pokedex, there’s only one more Alolan form