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The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.
UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake
The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.
UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.
UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!
Looking forward to reading your comments!
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I believe this is fake too. I feel like the Sixth gen is something GameFreak worked very hard on and if they don’t give us a lot of post game content and new pokemon, then I will call GameFreak GameTroll.
But, anyway, I’m pretty excited for the game. I’m guessing by around Oct. 4th, there will be a lot of leaks flooding into the forums, since the embargo will be lifted a little bit.
I can’t wait! 🙂
loads of leaks will come
We will, no doubt, get a lot of fake leaks though
Is October 4th the day reviews from gaming sites come out for the games and that is why leaks will be out??
I believe so. They might not be able to say everything. But they can say certain things about the game.
These pictures aren’t BAD quality per say…..The person could just be bad at taking pictures generally…….like my dad.
no one could be that bad they were not even trying
Why would they not take the picture straight on, like did this person have somewhere to be? If he already had the game, then he should feel comfortable taking pics of it
I hope it’s fake
I would like to know what those pokeballs mean on the left side of the summary screen
Obviously they would be your party Pokémon. In the Froakie3 image he would be the fourth Mon in your party hence hi pokeball is slightly moved to the left
I think yall should let Pokebeach handle all leaks and rumors cause this is completely false. Lol come on now Pokejungle, 70 Kalos pokemon??? Get real. I know you got pictures and all, but this is way off.
ummmmmm tongue scarf….DAFUQ?
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I don’t know about the images, but the written info sound ridiculous. Only 70 new pokemon? It is unlikely they will ever add less then 100 new pokemon. Now if you add that to the 40 already revealed which would make it 110, maybe. But given how nostalgic this game is and all it’s newness in design and all sorts of stuff and the increased amount of pokemon in gen 5 it seems likely we would have at least 150 or something. And I don’t know how much this reviewer h s seen pokemon, but it very unlikely that they will have so few legendaries. Unless the mega evolutions count for something? The froakies evolution looks unlikely of a direction they would go in. Now there is no way of knowing of this is real or not until the games are out unless this person admits to lying or someone discovers a way to prove they arg lying. I hope this information proves false. Leaks seem unlikely right now though at least if they are serious reviewers who want to keep their job. They only really convincing leak is the pokemon center images. It just looks right and real, but who knows.
makes know sense building up the bubbles just to remove them the hell they might as well remove braixens big tail
Baby frogs sometimes have bubbles on their backs from their nests. It would make sense to lose them as it grows older.
but why hype it so much logic aside does it make sense
they bubbles were never “hyped”.
What is everyone fascination with the bloody bubbles? haha i mean settle down and look at Octillery. Prevo designs mean nothing
I dont care if the image is real or not I just hope whatever the final Froakie is it has no bubbles whatsoever just so the idiots who think “losing bubbles” i the ultimate decider on fake/real feel like idiots 😀
then why ad them in the first place
Froakie and Frogadier are both know as the bubble frog pokemon. Kinda weird they’d drop the bubbles after that.
Gastly lost his gas. Chikoritas line lost its forehead leaf.
as alluded to earlier, in nature, bubbles are associated with nests/young frogs. In that regard the frog “growing up/evolving” and losing something associated with being younger makes total sense.
or, equally feasible, the designers couldn’t care less about something so trivial. and it means nothing. certainly not proof that this is fae (not that I am saying its real just seems like a stupid reason to doubt it to me)
While that is true, if they went that route Frogadier would have less bubbles than Froakie, which isn’t the case.
Wow. This is nostalgic…
These must be real because it feels like Black & White all over again. 80% of the comments here are complaints of people in disbelief, just like how it was with the leaks for the Black & White starters. Honestly, I don’t ever believe rumors straight on, but my instincts are telling me those picture are real, but I’m not believing the text. If I’ve learned anything so far this gen, it’s to not believe the texts. Look at the text separately from the pictures because we have no idea where these pics are originating from.
Anyway, we’ve seem to finally have are Fighting/Flying-type Pokémon! A hawk luchador. Greninja isn’t exactly what I imagined, but it’s not bad. If this is real, @TCMets was right! It’s grenadier and not brigadier like everyone thinks it is!
The bird is fake because the design is inconsistent. When in the wild it has pointy, sharp feathers. In the pokedex entry it has fewer, and rounded, feathers.
I’m not so sure about greninja either. While Masuda did say he thinks froakies transformation is the greatest, I’m just not quite sure about this one.
It could be that the wind is ruffling his feathers in the battle scene. It could be that we just got a badly timed shot.
Good point, I remember when we first saw Darumaka and it was missing its limbs.
or gender differences. 😛
Yeah, I saw someone point out in the battle, it has five feathers, and only 4 on the screenshot, but that’s easily explained by that it’s body is hiding one of the feathers. Not that it makes these real, but that’s not something to really point at.
I will also mention the pictures of swirlix – in the screenshot it seems to have two feet, and then the artwork makes it look like it’s on a stick.
Remember when the final evolutions of the 5th gen starters were leaked? Everyone said they were fake because they thought GameFreak wouldn’t make pokemon like that. I’m with you in thinking the images are real, but the written information is way too obviously fake.
i honestly don’t have a problem with either if they are real, although I think Greninja sort of lost it’s frog look.
i agree
It hasn’t completely lost its frog look, but it has gained more of a ninja look. If this is the case, then Quilladin and Braixen will look more like a knight and a mage, respectively.
The starters based on RPG classes was confirmed, after all.
you have too agree it doesnt make sense that the bubble frog pkmn loses his bubbles
Gastly “the gas pokemon” lost his gas. You’re reasoning is ridiculous
true but it still seems very weird to replace it with its tongue.
No it doesnt at all. what is weird about it? your own deep love for bubbles? your point has no basis for anything
Chikorita; “the leaf pokemon” kept its leaf in its first evolution, then lost it.
Think logically dude
the leaf turned into a flower that makes way more sense than this.
Yea, because leaves always magically turn into flowers in nature :/
Besides the leaf was on the forehead for both primary snd secondary evolutions, then gone.
Your argument is stupid, your opinion is stupid and clearly there is little point talking reason with you. good day sir, go have a bath or something with plenty of bubbles….I bet they disappear eventually 😉
well that was rude i was just trying to make sense of things but oh well.
autist alert.
Lern2internet. You rude person.
“Lern2internet” :/ who talks like that?
As you obviously didn’t realise, I was being satirical. I think you do need to think about how you talk to people and get your point across though – go back over and re-read what you wrote and how they came across. The like-to-dislike ratio of your posts should help with your deduction.
Goodbye.
haha I suppose it may have come across a little harsh :/ the “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a TV show. I apologize if any offense was caused, none was intended. The stubbornness of people just made me a little moody. Sorry again
Though I thought the bath comment was kinda funny :p
haha I guess it might have come across as a little harsh. The “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a cartoon I watch. I apologize for any offense caused, It was not my intent. Just the bubble theoy and stubborness all over the internet today made me cranky, sorry to all concerned once again
Though my bath comment was kinda funny in light of bubblegate no? :p
Gengar is still made of gas.
The bubbles don’t exactly matter.
You never know if Greninja can choose to make the bubbles appear and disappear like most Pokémon can. A clear example would be Typhlosion and its flames.
true but i cant see it just poping up out of that pink thing evo is cool though
I hope the images are real! I think Greninja looks pretty neat!
People are saying Greninja is real because Sammurott ended up being on all fours, unlike its previous forms. But Sammurott still had the shells, which were oshawott’s and dewott’s signature parts. But Greninja replaces Frogadier’s signature bubble scarf with a tongue? I don’t think so
1) Its not a tongue.
2) You have no idea if it can make its bubbles appear at any given time.
3) Game Freak likes our tears. You’ll get used to it.
It’s pink, near its mouth, and shaped like a tongue. What else would it be?
You really want me to answer that?
I think the gre comes from grenouille (frog in french). Ties into the french theme.
That sounds awesome tbh. So the “gren” can be a spin-on “grenouille” (frog in french) and “grenade”.
Could be. I don’t see what grenade has to do with ninjas. Maybe smoke bombs?
That’s what I was thinking. And they did say it was based off like a rogue, or a general in combat.
How about Grenadier? Also probably what the latter half of Frogadier was based off of, it is a Title in the army I think
They look fake :/
I don’t know what else to say :/
I remember Musada saying there’s over 100 new pokemon in X and Y…
“As with every new generation of games, new Pokémon are introduced. The total number of Pokémon will be brought up to over 750, meaning there will be at least 100 new Pokémon.” Source http://pokemondb.net/x-y
i wonder wat the 1000th pokemon will be?
probably a chair
A giant 1000.
so true
an infinity symbol
IT would called infiniteon and it would be arceus’s mega evolution
a new type called infini type no weaknesses 4x to every type eveelution base 1000 stats
TOO FAR BRO.. TOO FAR…
you never know
The bag of potato chips pokemon. It will be Fire/Fighting.
I was (and still am) hoping for the potato chips Pokemon lol. I think it could have a cool design. Specially if its similar to Tangela, like how shes just the black face with a pair of eyes concealed in vines, this poke could be a black face/pair of eyes concealed in an aluminum bag lol. Ability: Light Metal or Weak Armor lol.
GAMEFREAK- THE TROLL POKEMON
Uggh I can’t tell if they’re real or not! I keep comparing them to an image on Serebii, and they look the same! I don’t actually believe that a Flying/Fighting type would look like that, but it’s GameFreak, so… :/
WHAT IMAGE ON SEREBII?
Just one of Fennekin on the summary page, I was looing to see if the moves, ect. matched up the same way….
oh nice work
It looks like everything matches….
The order of the Pokeballs isn’t the same in both pics (which isn’t impossible), but Hawlucha is battling a level 10 Doduo when it itself is level 63. I find that a bit odd.
nice work bro we need more people like you on the job!
Wild Pokemon?
I thought that too, but I just figured if you’re that high of a level, wouldn’t you battle higher level Pokemon? Could be true, I’m just pointing it out
Depends on where you are.
I know, I’m not saying that’s the end-all-be-all it’s fake, it just makes it slightly suspicious in my eyes
Forget the text, I don’t believe that for a second. Anyone can find pictures and write some random BS.
But that Froakie evolution pic, it looks so cool. I love the tongue scarf, so unique. If fake, good job. If real, good job.
Seems like you were right about it being grenadier and not brigadier!
I’ve got a gut instinct that these pics are real.
Can’t wait to see Quilladin’s awesome evolved form! 😀
Haha, maybe! We’ll find out for sure soon enough 🙂 But I have that same feeling, I think the pics are real.
We’ll find out in, OH MY GOSH, 14 DAYS!!!! 😀 or is it 13?
13! 😀
Still… I wouldn’t mind finding out AHEAD of time.
C’mon guys, keep it leakin’!
KEEP THE LEAK KEEP THE LEAK
What happened to that Italian leaker that was supposed be leaking stuff (was it yesterday?) Uggh my brain’s tired :p
oh yeah i forgot!!
I don’t know. The person never really came back.
Too busy enjoying the game? 😐
151 comments! Returning to Kanto post-game confirmed! Gamefreak you trolls.
I’m calling fake. It’s hard to say why, other than that they just…look…fake to me. I’ll be VERY surprised if they’re real.
Several things bug me
1) Lack of bubbles…like where are they (unless the tongue scarf if hinding them)
2) Why not show bottom half of 3DS?
3) Why not show other 5 Pokemon in party?
TRUeeeeeeeee
i kinda like the froakie evo, but as a pokemon of its own…
I WANT OFFICIAL ARTWORK NOT SCREENSHOTS… but i know im asking for too much
stop youre asking for too much
jeez sorry!!!
wanna fight?
Sure! Go yveltal
Oh dam!!
Go frogadier!
Frogadier is evolving
Frogadier evolved into… MISSINGNO!!!!!
oh my god wut
this is very intresting
If they show a pokedex entry I will beleave I currently don’t
AGREED BROTHER
I don’t understand what goes on in a person’s head to actually go out of their way to create a fake. What is wrong with these people? have they got nothing better to do? I feel bad for them 🙁 poor sad lonely people
hey thats wat my dad does for a living…TAKE IT BACK!!!!! WAAAAAAAA
Well in that case I don’t believe you are real….I’ll wait for official artwork before continuing this conversation
Lol im just kidding no hard feelings
Or maybe they’re trolls :p
please dont use the word “troll” it is awful
But anyway your saying going to the trouble of making these fakes just to annoy gives them pleasure? well i stand by my original post, sad pathetic people 🙁 i feel for them
ok sorry. D: What other term is there that’s nicer?
Meanie head?
I like wat you said … I LIKE…….YOU
The word stupid is also a word that shouldn’t be used as t is very bad and as you said regarding “troll”, awful, yet I know someone around here who used it…
I used it… I’m sorry
actually I wasn’t speaking about you but that’s a very noble attitude, admitting and apologizing
Are you talking about “troll” or “stupid”? I’m confused .-.
I might have misunderstood, you are compltely right I might have presumed to early that natethepipkin was saying he used the word stupid, sorry
If you’re talking about troll, I’m definitely sorry, I just don’t know another term, is people that get pleasure out of other’s misery ok?
no before i said that gamefreak Was a troll and i feel really bad about sayong that… im sorry
Thanks
I didnt mean it was awful as in offensive. I just hate “internet language” the prevalence of it around these days is completely stupid!….just like a certain someone’s specious arguments
the word in itself isn’t internet language, but I understand what you’re saying has I highly doubt they intend to call the person who released this informtian an actual troll
Interesting that Greninja knows Extrasensory, which I see has also gotten a decrease in PP. I don’t know of any Fighting type Pokemon that can learn that move. So maybe Dark?
Of course, this is just speculation if it’s real.
are you real?
Well I just pinched myself, I guess so.
Yay then youre the best thing thats been comfirmed so far!!!
😉
Greninja’s name could possibly come from grenouille as well as grenadier. Grenouille would explain Extrasensory.
Or grenadine… you know the thing that you mix with sprite to make a surely temple?
Lol. That has nothing to do with frogs or ninjas, but the word Grenouille is also the French word for frog, and in the culinary arts, the term Grenouilles refers to frog legs.
NIce youre so much better than me at this speculating thing… 🙁
Lol, it’s alright. At least, we’re solving this together.
The sooner the info, the better, right?
you know it!!!!!
🙂
Like the food?
Yep, and also like the frequency-resolved optical gating (FROG). Click on the wiki link up there to find out more on this.
I think that might be why Greninja learns Extrasensory.
French for Frog! Good researching! Kalos is based on France too so I imagine a lot of French themes.
True. Suicune is also a water type like Frogadier though and gets extra sensory. It must have something to do with the frog its based off of.
Ninjas are known to meditate, and Meditation is using your inner Psychic power to calm yourself, could explain Extrasensory.
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Another thing to consider is that this might not be what Greninja’s official art looks like. I mean just look at Torchic’s move set screen we got before. They are definitely adding more detailed animations. So Greninja could easily just be sticking out its tongue and wrapping around its neck in its animation.
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7731918336/h5FA70974/
good point sir
That’s right! I mean, I don’t see Torchic doing that during a battle haha. This could easily be what Greninja’s Pokemon selection screen animation is like.
Btw, on my 3DS it says “Provisionally Registered Friend.” What’s that mean? I don’t have that for anyone else :S
It means I’m lazy and forgetful! haha registering you right now sorry! 🙂
Oh! Lmao xD
Registered! 😀
Awesome! 🙂
Know what, the leaker probably took the pic of Greninja during its animation to troll us. Maybe that’s why its “tongue,” if that is it,
is sticking out and wrapping around it like a “ninja scarf?”
i hope that wat youre saying is the case. I like it
Hahaha, maybe! Either way, it looks awesome and I’m a big fan of the concept with that tongue scarf for a ninja frog.
That means that the other person hasn’t added you yet.
It’s sooo adorable~♥
Um… *cough*still manly*ahem*
I hate that it shows an additional two pokeballs underneath the cherish ball. What are they for?
They seem to be the party. Selected one is moved to the right, the rest are the unseen pokes.
I love that animation in the summary! I think is one of the details I have liked the most so far
I doubt its selection screen animation is it sticking its tongue out and wrapping it around its neck. That sounds weird.
I HOPE this isnt Froakie’s final evo. It looks like SHIT!
I dont want froakies evolution i want chespins ! ^^
same
I want Fennekin’s. But I’ll have to wait either for the game or a leaker :/