These are not necessarily real images, their authenticity has not been established. Please do NOT treat this as a news post, instead enjoy commenting & speculating. We will update you if any details come out to (dis)prove any of this.
We’ve marked the main image warning of Pokémon X & Y spoilers so we won’t be hiding images in these posts.
The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.
UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake
The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.
UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.
UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!
Looking forward to reading your comments!
<3 PJ
Featured Thread: X/Y team From now and then by MacSkiddo
this why u dont make fun of chespin http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/EBYZIc9cGfk/maxresdefault.jpg
Is this supposed to be a final evo?
yea
I always thought that that was its 1st Stage :p
well, was supposed to be
It looks like a baby. Cute and all, but it looks like the first evo.
Looks like a first stage for Chespin… And stop posting many images.
theres any grass type that can learn mudshot by leveling besides a strange pure grass type like chespin,grass/steel,grass/rock,grass/ground,grass/water?
Can someone please post a link to where Mr. Masuda said stuff about the aftergame and amount of Pokemon? I’m really curious to see that interview and put this 70 Kalos Pokemon nightmare to bed.
Trust me, they wouldn’t put 70 pokes in one game. They want this to sell.
I hope you’re right. My paranoia is just so annoying sometimes. Lol.
Trust me I was like you. That text has beeen confirmed…to be fake.
*Prays to Arceus*
TESTIFY, BROTHER!
Love your profile pic by the way. That PMD Skitty art. <3
Such underrated games…
Maybe he meant 70 Pokemon we haven’t seen revealed yet.
I hope. Haha.
Maybe. But 3 different regions in the game, more then 70 pokemon.
maybe they mean 70 for each of the region LOL IDK
? There’s only the Kalos region. The region is just separated into three sections. I figured this was just for organizational sake.
The leaker said that the Barnacle was #21 in the Coastal dex, so maybe….
The leaker also admitted he’s a fake.
but there were 2 sources
That doesn’t prove it’s real, just makes it harder to call fake. Again, the leaker could have either used a proxy, or more likely someone else added onto the fake. This may explain why the pictures of the hawk look inconsistent.
yeah there is 3 sections so in the coastal dex it shuld be sum of the 1st pokemon you meet
Masuda said he won’t reveal the amount of Pokemon.
Dangit Mr. Masuda!
So for everyone that went to Pokebeach to look up this stuff the person who leaked them SAID THEY WERE FAKE !!! usually that means they are fake … Of course he could be trying to cover his tracks but why would he risk it in the first place? These aren’t really the ground breaking details we’re begging for.
But the Fighting/Flying one had TWO sources, didn’t it?
Yes.
yeah it did
Well to be precise the clear picture of Hawlucha and the rock water thing were admitted to be fake PICTURES. Whether Hawlucha is real is TBD because the first three pictures could be real.
Where is this the proof that the barnacle was faked? Where?
Go on Pokebeach and read what the admin says
You mean where he says it may be fake?
I think he means here: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-1-rumor-new-pokemon-greninja-hawklucha-and-binacle-revealed-9-29?page=15
Anyone can go on with an account and say it was fake.
The person who posted the pictures said they were fake….
Hawlucha has two sources.
This makes me question if Hawlucha is legit, but it could be someone just adding onto the original fake.
THere were two leakers! Both have hawlucha in common, but the one with froakie evo has disappeared and the one with the barnacle admitted they were fake so hawlucha could be real
Your logic makes no sense. If one of the fakers hasn’t said anything and the other said that all of his images were fake, then by that logic Hawlucha is guaranteed to be among the fake images.
2 sources!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you are telling me that the froakie final evo is fake….right?
Essentially only that and binacle are. Because Hawlucha has been proven by two sources.
My hopes are increasing…..
I’m just glad I chose chespin since day one.
Thats the only one I want to be real
Me too.
That doesn’t make sense, though. Think of it this way:
LEAKER 1: Reveals Greninja and Hawlucha; says nothing about his credentials and disappears
LEAKER 2: Reveals Binacle and Hawlucha; says that all his images are fake
It makes sense if you consider that leaker 2 copied what he knew about Hawlucha when he was making the fake screenshots.
But where did he learn about Hawlucha? The other leaker? All of the sources that Hawlucha was shown from have posted other fake images.
There were two leaks so Hawlucha and Greninja could be real. But the clear picture of Hawlucha is fake and so is the barnacle.
If that Froakie final evo is fake…..someone has really good skill to make that…
Link to your source and I’ll give you more credibility.
Idk how this is necessary since you can literally google “pokebeach” but http://pokebeach.com
No, I know how to get to Pokebeach, thank you. What I’m asking is for the actual quote from the person revealing that he posted fake images.
“After over 1,000 people began to view the forum thread, the source who posted on our forums expunged the information from his posts and deleted his images. He called them fake, but many of our forum users theorize that it’s just a cover-up excuse. ”
This is what the Pokebeach admin said and he is trustworthy
They’re saying that the leaker called them fake, not the admin
Ahhh. So basically you’re just posting information we’ve already been over. We’ve already established, a long time ago, that this was him backtracking out of fear of being found out by someone. So there’s no real confirmation that they were fake in the first place. If you had read earlier posts you’d know this.
I’m sorry for not backtracking through thousands of comments for your discussion… and if you knew this then you don’t need to be so negative cause there are many other people reading these comments that deserve to be updated without having to read through so much uselessness.
If you’re going to comment about a “reveal,” please try to make sure that you aren’t just regurgitating what’s already been said.
I don’t see where it says its a fake.
Do we need a reminder about the Samurott controversy? Everyone called it fake and then it was proven real
I’m just hoping that the tongue thing is a quick part of the animation, and it doesn’t do that normally. If that’s the case, then it’s fine with me! (ASSUMING IT’S REAL.) XD
That gif explaining how the BW starters are based on old Pokemon is one of my favorite gifs ever.
Never heard of it do you know where I can find it.
Link, please? ;~;
I would have posted it if I could find it. Maybe one of you would know?
I HATED THE UNOVA REGION SOOOOOOOO BORING
What was so bad about it? The “crappy” pokemon? Vanniluxe and Garbodor are just two, TWO, pokemon. There was Haxorus, Hydreigon, Galvantua, Darmanitan and much, much more. And B2/W2 expanded the UnovaDex for god’s sake!
It was awful in BW1 because it was a tube with no adventure, but it became a lot better in BW2, they really improved it.
Even though BW2 improved Gen. 5, BW1 did have an excellent adventure. The plot was amazing by Pokemon standards, although it was slow until Pinwheel Forest. I’m trying to flame you but people give too much crap to Gen. 5.
I give crap to BW1 because Cheren and Bianca were collectively the worst idea ever. Having them pop up everywhere, just when I was getting the sense that I was finally out on my own adventure, completely killed any sense of individuality the games had.
They were annoying. Not gonna deny that. But they were made much better in BW2. I did like battling my rivals after every gym. It felt like I was actually progressing in strength while fighting them.
I agree, but having two rivals was too much. So now I’m anxious about having four…
At least those rivals look like they are your actually friends. Not just a pain in your ass.
There was a controversy? I’m sorry but I remember it being confirmed real pretty quickly. It was on sites like Bulbapedia pretty quickly and they never post for discussion (just fact)
I sure as hell remember! It was known as “The War of Wottergate.”
Seriously. Look at the link.
Back then. Snivy was Smugleaf, Tepig was Baycon, and Oshawott was Wotter.
u know what woulb be cool if we had dark time gym leader who is a happily bubbly girl but quickly became dark and evil when in battle
^This.
How about leader of Team Flare? He would make a fitting Dark type Gym Leader
Why? Team Flare is all about fashion?
They probably shop at T.J. Maxx*Smiles at camera*.
Fashion type gym? XD
Maybe not “type” but based around fashion. What type would they use though? Fairy?
A mixture of types? A Final Gym with no predetermined type would be nice. And yes, I know we have Blue.
Green is… a special case that will never happen again.
Again, that was a facetious remark about a fashion-type gym. lmao
LOL yess first pokemon being sent out…………
OMG thats scary
Happy girl: Lets battle for fun Im telling u im strong but if beat me I BURY YOU IN THE HOLE AND LEAVE U THERE!!!!
Did someone mention holes? Where is DefensiveBastiodon?
He’s digging these comments! I’m sorry…
She sounds like a fun person to be around. Maybe you’re describing Bonnie?
Split personality gym leader! She uses fairy and dark pokemon.
Gyms are always single types…
Brock in R/B/Y and FR/LG disagrees. He used Geodude and Onix, Rock/Ground pokémon.
Both are Rock types. Geodude only gets ground after evolving.
No, Geodude is a duel type. Sudowoodo is the first Pure Rock Pokémon
Sudowoodo should of been grass >_>
But Sudowoodo is supposed to be a fake tree, so it shouldn’t be a grass type at all.
*shrug*
yep. exactly….it is pseudo + woodo.
No…
Wow… ok. That is surprising. Well he is still known as a Rock type leader. So who cares.
Um…I am being facetious given I am talking about a gym leader with multiple personaity disorder…buzzkill.
Still would be funny, but taking into account that the franchise is rated E for everyone, GF would tone it down a bit.
Sounds a bit like Alfendi Layton.
True!
Fashion type gym- Trainers use Cottonee and Spider pokemon because they make fabric, along with bug types like caterpie, wurmple, and scatterbug.
What about Lilligant?
Object type Gym- Trainers use Pokemon based off of objects such as Vanillite, Chandelure, Garbodor, and Magnemite. xD
EDIT: Include Honedge, Doublade, and other object Pokemon.
You forgot Honedge
and bronzor
And you forgot pikachu.
OOOH
No, a food gym!
Cherrim, Vanilluxe, Swirlix, Eggecute and Barnacle french fries.
http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380493267610.jpg Don’t get me wrong, I like Hawlucha, but this is making me rethink its existence
Angles. Angles everywhere.
We’ve already been over this. The camera angles obscure feathers at certain points.
EDIT: Looks like my break was shorter than I expected…
Behind it’s body, we’ve said this many times.
Adding on to what the others have said, we also don’t know its animation.
Maybe the wings shrink and expand?
So far, these are the most believable picture leaks we’ve had from an anonymous source, so if we get fooled, at least it was by someone skilled.
If fakes are this good in gen 6, what’s going to happen in gen 7?
World War 3.
Hosted by Gaben Newell.
http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380493267610.jpg I think this particular image of Hawlucha may be fake because the Fighting type marker looks like it’s in two different colors if you notice closely. But it could be the lighting. What do you think?
Looks like lighting.
Lighting. Even if it is fake, the person probably copy/pasted the Fighting marker. lol
If these are real, why did they leak THESE and not Oorotto? Seriously.
I thinkthe community knows about oorotto.
But English name, typing, ability, ect
I think they’re only allowed to show off specific pokemon.
Seeing a new Pokemon would generate much more hype than getting new, basic information about a Pokemon that’s already been announced.
And why didn’t they leak the other starters? Something is fishy here!
You can only choose one starter, so…
What about his rival’s pokemon?
then he wouldnt have any info bout them besides name and type and looks and we wuld think its fake
A lot of people thought Greninja was fake!
*think.
Because it is.
We cannot be for sure. Just remember these photos do look somewhat legit.
I am considering everything fake until proven real. Which cannot be done by random people.
Yeah, true. Admittedly, I’m trying to be optimistic due to how legitimate these look for leaks.
Myabe because they started the game with frokie first
And why does froakie’s final evo fake last week follow with another final froakie evo…..
That in itself raises suspicion.
They cant leak them becuase they get sued and they cant get early pokemon games to review. This person said it was fake because he probably got in trouble.
I guess the question is really why these particular Pokemon were leaked at all. Why not the legendaries? Why not more Fairy-types? Etc.
The thing that really makes me think that “Greninja” is fake is that it learns Extrasensory. If the information we’ve been given before (by a very reliable source) about Froakie’s final evolution being Water/Fighting is true, why the hell would it learn Extrasensory?
Ninja’s can meditate.
Many fighting pokemon can learn meditate and it makes sense for fighters to do so. However, name me a fighting pokemon (other than the partly psychic Gallade) that learns Extrasensory; it doesn’t make sense.
Lucario and Poliwrath can learn Psychic. It’s possible.
I can understand them being able to as lucario is an “aura user” and poliwrath is a hypnotist; both have slightly psychic elements. I just don’t see it here
Well, Noctowl can learn Psychic-type moves, and it’s Normal/Flying. Arcanine can learn Electric-type moves. It really depends on the Pokemon.
I still don’t think it makes much sense for a fighting frog to learn Extrasensory, given how most fighting Pokemon don’t learn offensive psychic moves. It’s similar to the argument of Fennekin being fire/psychic because of its ability to learn confusion
They haven’t shown it able to learn confusion. They HAVE shown it can learn Psychic, Psybeam, and it’s evolution at least can learn Psyshock.
My mistake! I knew it had to be one of those!
The stick wand helps prove the theory. And ninjas tend to have some kind of spiritual energy.
We have been over this before. Extrasensory is Supernatural Power in Japanese and ninjas tend to have some kind of supernatural power.
Not everyone’s been on this page all day you know…
Indeed! I have been rather busy today!
Oh, my bad, sorry Glitch’d 🙁
Don’t worry over it! I tend to get frustrated too when I see a topic being repeated constantly
np 🙂
This might be why:
“Froakie may appear absentminded, but in truth it pays close attention to its surroundings at all times.”
Haha, that sounds like me
The Drunken Monkey fighting style or the Drunken Frog in Froakie’s case
Hmm…I’m still not sure. Perhaps I want very much for this thing to be proven fake and it’s clouding my judgement. I honestly don’t think such a horrific design could be real…We’ll see
I like his stance….I don’t like the triangles and tongue scarf
no matter what a FIGHTING type of any kind can’t learn extrasensory. Not even meditite.
theyve made fairy type….. they can do whatever the hell they want now
No fighting types as of current can at least. To be honest, Quilladin learning Mudshot is extremely odd, no grass type can learn it.
Yes, Quilladin can learn mudshot, therefore some grass type does learn it :p
Well, BEFORE Quilladin, no Grass type could learn it.
XD
Ah, it’s really interesting watching everyone arguing over whether or not the leaks and pictures are real or not. I love this community!
These leaks are making me really excited for the game, I seriously can’t wait!
By the way, is there anything in particular that you guys are looking forward to in X and Y?
For me it’s bonding with my rivals, and character customization!
The whole thing!! 😀
Character customization. Oh my god I’m going to let my inner fashion diva spend literal hours designing outfits.
Pokemon-Amie.
DIVE!!!
character customization all the way my characters gunna be POPPIN
Customization, the PSS (feeling of being connected at all times and such), and hopefully endgame facilities like the Battle Factory.
REVAMPED CONTESTS…please!
I’m staying away from Pokémon Websites in order to protect myself from any spoilers and from being disappointing about leaked rumors being proven to be fake. I will return one day when the world has calmed down from X and Y (mid November). I have been given enough information to remain patient until the games are released. Oh how I wished GF would have revealed Mega Sableye and a Bug/Dragon Pokémon before. No matter, I will be occupied during the time I wait. Besides college life and social events, I will also have Breaking Bad’s Finale, Legend of Korra, Code Geass R2, and a few video games to pass the time. I will also be playing White 2 to my heart’s content because once this new generation begins, I won’t play my old Pokémon games as often as I did. Good bye my friends. I will see you again in November!
13 DAYS LEFT!!!!!!!!
Getting alot of dislikes and I don’t know why..
A series of perturbed phantom downvoters. They’ll go away eventually, just hold strong.
Thanks.
I disliked this post. Because I can. >:)
D:
Shush, kitty. You know I love you. :3
0-0?
We are of the same kind, my kitten. xD
Edit- Even though my name is “SavvyJackal.” >.>
xD
I’m sorry I disliked this post because you guys aren’t nice to me when I post things so….
REVENGE.
Oh I’m sorry! Was it my tone?
It was probably my tone. Sorry if I came off as harsh, but it can get irritating when people get stirred up over things that we’ve already discussed and put to rest.
Yeah, but he just joined. Wasn’t really his fault.
I guess… just please don’t assume we all know the same things you do because i’ve not been following this post long enough to know what’s been discussed and since it’s not formatted like a forum we literally cannot backtrack and see what’s been discussed.
Not real! The picture shows he’s caught a pokemon with a master ball..
So?
we get a master ball in every game
Ahh missed that :/
I just assumed they’d still be quite early into the game..
All of his pokemon are Level 63! Of course he has a masterball!
I was disagreeing with the guy because of that reason…
I was just trying to support you ;_;
Oh ok 🙂
🙂
He’s stated he finished the game.
A Flying/Fighting-type?! Sweet!
I’m probably not going to go onto pokejungle after today to avoid spoilers. I want a little mystery saved for the game, you know? And the waiting won’t be too bad after the remake of legend of zelda windwaker comes out for the wii U. Bye, Everyone! See ya on October 13th!
Bye! 😀
Another supposed leak: Probably fake but might as well share
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ps1v8x.jpg
OH GOODNESS. PLEASE BE REAL. IT IS SO ADORABLE. <3
I’m dying. I really hope that’s real.
Me too.
Yeah, this one I NEED! It’s too cute, plus I need a grass pokemon on my team!
it looks like a poison type 2 me mybe its the porqupine thing they wer talkin bout on Pokebeach
But that was said to be white and purple…so I dunno. Maybe.
Well, he just told me, please pick me, I am a cute little grass creature. Please pick me, look how cute I is!
if it was real and a poison it would help against fairy types
I will concede, and call it a grass/poison type.
It is clearly a Sound/Fairy type. 8)
Prolly :p
…grass? o_o;
That’s really cute
Real or fake? That is the question!
I feel like I’ve seen this before even though I haven’t…..
Looks real.
Cute but fake.
oh man, it’s cute but the pose doesn’t look legit at all.
Ok now that looks fake. Doesn’t blend well with the surroundings.
Looks fake to me. The 3D model is in a higher resolution than the rest of the photo. That’s also a very fortuitously good pose that it’s doing…
looks like a dark type cyndaquil
That things is too damn cute and photogenic to be real. :O
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/give_it_to_me_stephen_colbert.gif
Oh god. Your gif made me Lol so hard. xD
What can I say, I just LOVE that pokemon!
fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CCCCCCCCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEE
It looks like the ice wolf pre evo we were told about
That doesn’t look anything like a wolf plus the “ice wolf’s” name turned out to actually be Quilladin’s Japanese name.
IT DID?!?!?! D: my life…
Don’t worry! Your life will be better on the 12th or sooner! 😀
😀
well it is a blue cub thing and I can still have hope for my ice wolf.
Hmm…
But that picture doesn’t show the ground…whereas the ‘fake one’ does..
Yeah, I’ve actually been trying to delete this photo because it’s probably not the edited source xD
But the cloud formation is different
Clouds are not the same!
We still have hope! XD
The eyes look a little too strange for it to be real, as much as I want it to be
One man’s ‘strange’ is another’s ‘cute’!
Why can’t I open the image? It’s a bad link! :/
Try this: http://oi43.tinypic.com/2ps1v8x.jpg
?
Doesn’t work! D: Maybe it’s a regional thing…? I’m from Portugal…
(ty anyways)
that is so…. KAWAII!!!
I feel like this is fake because i swear i’ve seen this pokemon before.
Ahhhhhh leaks everywhere…..tooo much
My brain…..
Leakers, leakers everywhere.
You guys know those koala looking things in the trailer? Supposedly it matches up with a rumor about Koaldy thats a fairy type.
I KNO I WAS ABOUT 2 TYPE THAT
BLEW YOUR MIND.
PSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!
Most of the text rumors are fake. : Two rumors contradicted themselves.
One said that “koala” was a Fairy-type,
while the other said Normal/Fighting-type.
Well the world will know October 12th, 2013.
Ugh can’t wait today is almost over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those were “koala-looking?” I certainly didn’t see any koala-like features, unless koalas are actually gray amorphous blobs.
The ears resemble koala ears
Has anything else leaked today besides the three Pokemon this article is about?
No 🙁
Nope. Nothing.
Sadly, no D: It’s mostly been a discussion on if these are fake or not.
It’s been crazy!
http://static3.worldofwonder.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tumblr_msu42uLOVh1soy3bpo2_500.gif http://static3.worldofwonder.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tumblr_msu42uLOVh1soy3bpo1_500.gif
XD
Potentially. We’re still not sure as to the legitimacy of this; http://oi43.tinypic.com/2ps1v8x.jpg
I wouldn’t get my hopes up though… fakes are very frequent at this juncture.
This, but that is a pretty darn cute picture.
Kool!
Aid!
Oh, look… another leaked pic!
This one looks… I dunno. Could be real.
This corroborates with the rumors we heard earlier! It’s definitely genuine.
this comment thread… what did i just witness?
This looks freakishly similar to a certain Digimon…
Seems legit. LOL.
Isn’t that a digimon?
That’s the joke.
Holy crap, is this a Swirlix evolution??? Seems legit!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVXi_v-IcAA2I3h.jpg
You’re right!
LEGIT!
HYPE over a pink blob XD
I dunno, the left eye looks bigger than the right eye. I guess we have to wait until october 12th!!!!!!
Definitely legit! It fits the rumors, and it definitely does not look like it was photoshopped.
Getting that on my team~~!
??
Hmm reminds me of a guy’s early playthrough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ8_y9vDdcE
Most legit one i’ve seen yet..and i’m super excited. DIGIMON TYPE CONFIRMED!! Hahaha
i want 5 seconds of my life back
Here, have some of mine
I’ve waited long enough. I need more leaks!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0 Lol. Had to post this.
Did you get that from me? XD
This kind of comment is why fakes pop up so frequently 😛 But I share your sentiment.
Yep. The trolls I think are getting fed by us.
This was found on 4Chan. Maybe it can shed some light on this discussion a bit… http://i.imgur.com/pDsSGrE.png?1
Can’t tell if this person might be telling the truth or not!
Me too, this seems to real and or sincere to be lying.
Shh, we must never utter their names, or they’ll find us and kill our avatars.
I think it’s fake, Pokebeach traced the IP address to Italy :p
The IP could had still been traced from Italy, but doesn’t mean he couldn’t had visited Montreal during one point
I don’t beleive it. It came from 4Chan. Not from where they first popped up, PokeBeach.
A behind-closed-doors event in Montreal? That’s the most suspicious thing I’ve heard all day!
Sounds fake but if it’s real kuddo’s to him.
As Skiddo said, the IP was traced to Italy, not from Montreal :p
As much as I don’t want the froakie final evo to look like that…..this is suspicious…
How badly I want for this to be true but how deep in my heart I know it is false…
what’s everyone’s thoughts on gym line up this time round? I don’t want to see another water type gym, let other type shine mainly dark
Pretty much from what one Italian review has said, Bug, Fairy, Electric, Fighting, Steel.
The Bug and Electric are correct. Viola is the bug leaders and Clemont is the Electric one. Grant is mostly likely either Rock, Ground, or Steel (leaning towards rock myself). I hope there is a Fairy Gym but I would rather have it and Dark be later in the lineup to showcase their true prowess