Hey everybody, due to certain circumstances, we’re bringing you the last regional Mascot Showdown a little bit later! The winner of the last showdown is Xerneas with 53%.
Let’s move on to our last region: Alola. This brand new region is the startpoint for Generation VII – bringing incredible, new features like Trials, Z-Moves, the Battle Royal, Poké Rides, regional variants and so much more!
Pokémon Sun Version
Pokémon Sun featured Solgaleo, the Sunne Pokémon, on its cover. It resembles a more robust white lion design complete with a galaxy motif on its forehead. Its crownlike spikes and its tuffs of fur around its head resemble a sun. Among the people of Alola, it’s known as the beast that devours the sun and has therefore been honored as its emissary.
Solgaleo is the only known Pokémon that can learn the move Sunsteel Strike. Along with Lunala, its counterpart, it’s the only Legendary Pokémon that’s part of an evolutionary line. Not to mention it also has the highest HP-stat of all Steel-type Pokémon. Its name comes from ‘sol‘ (Latin for ‘sun’), ‘Galileo‘ (the man who proved that the Earth rotated around the sun) and ‘leo‘ (Latin for ‘lion’).
Pokémon Moon Version
Lunala, the Moone Pokémon, graced the cover of Pokémon Moon. It’s a large skeleton-like bat whose wings seem to resemble the moon, and are made of the night sky. Much like Solgaleo, it can travel between our dimension and the Ultra Space. Additionally, it’s called the beast that calls the moon, thus gaining the title “emissary of the moon” by the Alolan people.
Lunala‘s signature move is called Moongeist Beam. While Solgaleo is called the male evolution of Cosmog, Lunala is called the female one. Its name derives from ‘luna‘ (Latin for ‘moon’) and ‘ala‘ (Latin for ‘wing’).
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Speaking of Gen 4,
Who’s hyped for Diamond/Pearl remakes?
ive been hyped for it since ORAS came out
Agreed, I can’t wait to use Infernape, Luxray, Bastiodon, and Staraptor again
You do realize Bastiodon, Luxray and Staraptor are all playable in S/M right? 1’s a fossil and the rest can be found with their pre-evo Island Scans.
You missed the point so badly
Well there’s no need to unsugarcoat it.
What I mean is getting to reuse them for the Sinnoh remakes
Oh I thought you meant you can’t wait to use them at all.
Nah, I pretty much have them in SM, but its all good
Okie
Looks like we’ll have 4/6 the same, the of my faves and one I want to use
Haha yeah
Speaking of Pokemon we’re using, what was the first team you used in Gen 4?
Hmm….
I used Infernape, Staraptor, Roserade, Luxray, Gastrodon, and Dialga (I used a legendary since it was the first time I’d ever played a Pokemon game was D/P and I was playing Diamond so)
Back when I played Pearl, I did the same thing with Palkia. I was using a Tentacruel at the time but it kinda sucked so I replaced it with the legendary
Really can’t remember besides Infernape/Staraptor/Luxray :<
It’s ok, I mean its been 10 years
Empoleon (Literally was an HM slave, I sucked)
Staraptor
Pelipper
Luxray
Graveler or Rapidash
Dialga
I’m not entirely sure to be honest, but I think it was this.
Ima cry when they’re announced. ;-;
Imagine
Platinum Diamond and Platinum Pearl
“HA YOU THOUGHT WE COME UP WITH CREATIVE NAMES heres some sequels <3"
I’d be fine with that though cause it would mean they’d use Platinum’s story :O
I can’t stop thinking about these 3 names for remakes XD
Crazy Diamond
Pearl Jam
Star Platinum
(It’ll make sense to anyone here who’s watched JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure)
I’m not as hyped as I probably should be. Probably because I don’t think Platinum has aged much.
I mean D/P certainly have.
Ok this doesn’t make much sense, but I think you got what I mean.
Yeah, I get what your saying. Platinum does feel like it came out yesterday from time to time.
I’m a Gen four baby so of course I am
Hoping for a plat remake tho, better story and Dex (and it’ll probs include Sylveon)
Also imagine Distortion World re-created in gorgeous Sun/Moon 3D
WAIT WHAT IF DISTORTION WORLD IS TIED IN TO THE ULTRA BEASTS
And the Giratina fight music will be amazing
Same, I basically grew up in Gen 4 when I started getting into Pokemon, and damn I miss it so much
I hope there’s a post-game mission called the Spacial Episode or Operation: Dimension.
im super hyped because i don’t like the originals so nows my chance
That’s the spirit
In the remakes, Cynthia will now be even more weaker as you can just use a Fairy-type. Both on her Spiritomb and Garchomp.
Until they give them Poison moves
Even so, Spiritomb is now 4x weak to Mimikyu, and Garchomp has a total of 3 new enemies, Azumaril, Primarina and Tapu Fini.
Ghost isn’t weak to fairy. Her Garchomp will probably get poison jab or iron head, at least in rematch..
Oh yeah, it’s only weak to Fairy. NVM!
If they give her Gastrodon over Togekiss I’ll scream though
Gastrodon looks like Garbador at its most beautiful state, and that’s an insult.
Parahax boys
Yes I want it to slaughter my team
Same
Anyone who transfers over a Fini doesn’t deserve to talk about difficulty lol
Me! I can’t wait for me to abe able to play it.
Just for the distorsion world and jazz music
Ew no. No more talk of Gen 4, Im gonna be sick
– gives bag –
Ok,not to start an argument or anything,but I don’t see what your problem is with Gen 4.
Woooo! I also have music playing! it changes to the Team Rocket theme when you encounter him
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/264d91688cb3f02b7d560c57078022f039a44fcffe7ea8db14c6af6f147c6e13.gif
change you to “BOI!”
OMG YES
That was amazing
Thank you!
Seriously, like I thought this was pure gold XD
Calling it
Ultra Beasts and the third Silvally will play into the DP remakes and we’ll possibly see the creation Trio and Arceus revealed as Beasts
Making every single legendary revealed as Ultra Beasts is a terrible idea, no offence, it’s a very messy idea and wouldn’t make sense.
did he say every single legend… no
You know what I mean, I meant what’s the point of making the Sinnoh legendaries suddenly be revealed they’re UBs? I don’t think that’ll happen, that’s like saying Deoxys is an Ultra Beast because it’s from outer space.
but ubs aren’t from outer space 🙂
I know, he’s pointing out that it’s just as far-fetched.
farfetch’d
I wouldn’t like that. I think Arceus should stay a Pokemon since he created the creation Trio, and he’s the ultimate Pokemon after all
Also it’d completely ruin my nostalgia as that Pokemon lore was what made Sinnoh so unique for me
Yeah, why would an Ultra Beast be the god for a nearly completely different species, Pokemon?
Ultra Beasts are pokemon lol
I guess but they’re mostly over-designed Pokemon, Lunala/Solgaleo being exceptions.
Yes but Arceus would still have the same design lol
The God Pokemon (its name keeps turning into Acres for some reason) could be considered a connection between both. Partially from UB world and partially Pokeworld.
Lunala and Solgaleo are pretty damn over designed, though.
Same goes for Arceus.
Ultra Beasts are literally Pokémon from Ultra Space tho
But the creation Trio and Arceus aren’t from Ultra Space.
In fact, Arceus is from an egg. Do Ultra Beasts come from eggs?
Arceus created Ultra Space, presumably, so it could be made so he is an Ultra Beast or an other classification of Pokémon
Also yeah if they reproduce most likely
Arceus is the Alpha, it’s above such human conventions for naming.
He’s still called a Normal-Type Pokémon 😉
Yes but Dialga and Palkia came from the same outer space as Deoxys.
No, Arceus created Dialga and Palkia.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world
Like it’s literally in their lore
They didn’t come from outer space -_-
Their existence predates outer space, probably
I dont think they are UBs, UBs have a distinct in their cry
Retcon tho :p
Ok if they actually retcon it I will NOT be happy
It’s such a trivial change that literally just slaps a label on it for lore reasons
I don’t see the upset
Because it creates a precedent for future retconning. It’s going to make the story as confusing as Metal Gear Solid.
Slippery slope fallacy
Revealing them as Ultra Beasts isn’t going to make GameFreak make drastic changes
Hell the most drastic recons came from Gen 6
You know, to point out a fallacy itself is a fallacy, according to Heinrichs. You turned what was a discussion about Pokemon to logic.
And yeah, revealing them as UBs is enough of a drastic change. That means Arceus and the other two don’t neccessarily belong in the Pokemon world, they’d be like “strangers in another world”
Also, Arceus is known as the “first Pokemon in existance”. Making him an UB would be a hell of a drastic change.
Also, studios that retcon have gone on slippery slopes before. Just look at Kingdom Hearts.
Unless you’re pointing out a strawman. ALWAYS point out a strawman argument. Those shall be forever punishedWut
It’s not that complex, it’s literally just classifying them by something else that they’ve technically always been in-universe (so it’s less a retcon and more a reveal, poor word choice on my side)
It’s nowhere near as drastic as making a multiverse from a universe or changing Pokémon types
Fair.
I’d be fine with a reveal more than a retcon, but it’d make Arceus from this supreme deity of Pokemon to something from an alternate dimension that rules. I don’t think I’d be ok with that.
That said, I really dislike retcons. Why change the past, instead focus on expanding the present.
I think they shouldn’t do that, the universe is already all wonky.
How so
It’s a kids game if you look at the context clues it’s simple af
ORAS already bent it up with the mega and non-mega, we don’t need to mess it up even more by having DP being in the UB universe.
And Sun and Moon basically hammered it in
The UB universe is the Mega timeline genius
I have never felt older than when I realize most of you were kids when D/P came out…
I was seven when it came out in the UK ;-;
I was six when it came to the us, cause it was 2006 right?
2006 was Japan. 2007 was worldwide
Oh, so I was 7
I was like 6 when G/S came out
You’re younger than me..? o.o I didn’t think you were lol
I was 9
Not that much younger then
I was 8 years old….
Jeez.
I was 10 when it released in the US. I skipped gens 2 and 3
I’d happily skip Gens 2 and 3
….
They’re bad fam
I will never disagree with you more, G/S and HGSS are legit the best pokemon games ever so far.
gen 3 is pretty rad too
Eww
HGSS suffers from cramming too much in (which results in a boring grind test where the difficulty isn’t genuine, it’s because you have to grind to not be like ten levels under)
RSE has bland designs, still didn’t have the physical special split. Bitch ass music tho
This is all opinion BTW
Ummmm, FLygon
Exception, not a rule
You gotta admit though, Flygon is god tier
(I actually hate gen 2 though)
Same here
Flygon? More like Flygon get a Mega
Gen 2 is my third least fave
I wish
thats fine you’re entitled to your wrong opinion ;P
Just as you are
No but seriously, I agree with you on Gen 2, just not gen 3
Gen 3 designs though
It’s a sea of meh with the most exquisite pearls imo
Name some pearls beside Clamperl
Gorebyss
Anything that is Ghost-Type
The Pseudos
Main legends
Snorunt line
Swablu line
You forgot three pokemon
Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, and MASQUERAIN!! HOW DID YOU FORGET MASQUERAIN!?
And Mawile
Mawile is eh to me
Mawile <3
First two are eh
Forgot Masquerbaen
You’re actually wrong
Give Sharpedo credit at least
And the starters!
Worst starters ever imo
…..I’m lost for words…
GEN 6 HELLO!?
Chesnaught is bae
Oh, I love the chespin line and Greninja, but the others are trash
Die
die dieClearing the area
So basically like Gen 5.
Gen 5 is brilliant fam
It’s mediocre, but still better than garbage Gen 1.
I don’t think you know what that word means
Yes I do.
Nope
It gave me Victini, Eelektross, and Hydreigon so
The ghost types were exquisite
Exactly… even if Pokken lessened my care for Chandy a little…. You can only lose to spam so long..
Frillish tho
That is true, gen 5 was really good
Also, second best bug gen
GF were on a roll for Gens IV and V
Vivillon was awesome but the quantity of bugs hurts Gen VI
I honestly liked gen 3 a ton so I mean.. probably bias
Also, I have to say right now…. I have a way to make you like Sharpedo… And My goal is to make everyone like it
Skip gen 2, but gen 3? Naaaaah dawg
I’d gladly skip Gen 1!
all of you have issues
Lollll I like all gens, but Gen 4 is the strongest with Platinum and HG/SS, in my opinion. Gen 7 could surpass it, we’ll have to see…
Yeah!
(Gen 3 gave us Flygon and Kyogre so)
Still waiting on that damn mega..
We all are….
Also Milotic, like wtf
Yeah
Water/Fairy plz
I want salt
I was 4 years old, so there was no way I would’ve been able to play 😛
Funny story: Because I started playing gen 3 at a really young age, and because I didn’t have internet access, I thought those were the only games. Boy was it surprising when I randomly bumped into a friend playing D/P at a spelling bee…
Wow, I was l 5 actually, when it released in NA.
Never actually thought about it, because I didn’t get it until I was 7.
Wait no, that’s wrong.
I was 6.
you’re all so young omg
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I was 7 at the time, but i didnt care for the games, only for the anime
Fun fact: at that time i thought that pokemon was a MMORPG…
If anyone is here, this thing has HUGE relevance in the fangame if I ever make it, enjoy battling against it
Pokedex Entry: 260
Fortunisp
Classification: The Lucky Magician Pokemon
Height: 1’03
Weight: 9.7 Lbs
Typing: Ghost/Normal
Ability: Hat Trick
Stats:
HP: 103
Attack: 60
Defense: 100
Special Attack: 100
Special Defense: 100
Speed: 137
Base Stat Total: 600
Pokedex Entry: Armed with a top hat and a seemingly never fading grin, Fortunisp performs tricks of magic for all to see. It pulls things out of the hat and doesn’t seem to even know what will come out of it. Something different happens each time, making it an endless source of excitement. It is also proficient in battle by churning the fields of luck and using the hat to perform a vast array of attacks. It is said it gets along with Hoopa and any people who have a passion of entertaining.
Hat Trick: Secondary effects of its moves are doubled. Can use the move “Lucky Draw”
Lucky Draw
Classification: Status
Type: Ghost
Accuracy: 100%
BP: 20
Description: Fortunisp reaches into its hat and pulls out one of ten effects
A solar beam attack
A strange bubble making everything on the field, including itself, fall asleep
A Will-O-Wisp status effect that it randomly inflicts on any foe.
A card which it tosses at the foe with 70BP and ghost type
An explosive that causes itself damage if not attacked within three turns, acts like a substitute. Deals 90 Base damage to either side, fire type
Spills a bunch of Wishiwashi onto the field, 80Bp Water
Puts up the “Shadow Field Effect”
A random Stat boost
A rose which does nothing, but it does look and smell nice.
A burst of energy OHKOing the foe (EXTREMELY rare, like 1% chance rare)
Yeah…rng as a pokemon :3
Oh this was the Ghost/Normal
Yup! Thoughts? :3
This is going to be so hard to beat lol
Ghost/Normal is such a good typing tho, 3 inmunities
😀
Yep! And it’s gonna be cute too!
Though you will fight it under the command of a trainer….. a lot
What do you mean by the secondary effect is doubled? do you mean the chances of the secondary effect happening are doubled (like serene grace). Cos I don’t know how you would double effects like inflicting a burn, or flinching…guess you could double stat drops.
Oh, it’s serene grace
Cool, that makes more sense.
Yep!
I’m so bored I really need switchmas right about now
WE NEED IT RN, WE ARE SO CLOSE ITHSME.
…yet, so far.
I have to endure so much school torture before switchmas, ughhhhhh
For the DP remakes what is everyone choosing? I’m going to choose Empoleon just because I love penguins andd it just looks so cool. Plus, Torterra has a meh-typing and Infernape is overrated and I don’t like Fire-Fighting.
Gotta go back to the one I started with: Piplup! 🙂
Oh yeah, plus Piplup is super cute! I’ve been exposed to the DP anime the most which is why I feel very connected for Gen 4, also HG.
You say overrated and I say underrated. Go Chimchar
chimchar since its my first starter
I love Empoleon
Torterra is just a good typing slapped on the wrong stats
All three because they’re perfect
Time to piss everyone off
I’m…. actually not all that excited about gen 4 remakes…
sorry
Me neither. I’ve been put off remakes, I think they should have stopped at HGSS.
D/P should be the last, imo. Gen 5 doesn’t need them.
I want another gen to get them tbh
There’s really nothing wrong or super outdated about gen 5 though. It’s just still 2D, that’s basically all it is.
Gen 5 only for story possibilities
Mainly that Kyurem has the least reliable story of the mascots
I think the story is perfect already though
Here is the thing… there are several stories about Kyurem and when you actually give it thought… it does not make sense at all
I thought the should’ve stopped at FRLG and then resumed from DPP
They didn’t even use the remakes to fix crucial flaws imo, somehow made Hoenn worse
I think HGSS was good enough to warrant it’s existence. They disappointed me with ORAS however.
Me too :v
Like … in honesty? Gen 4 is kinda eh to me… like I didn’t like all that many Pokemon from it
I mean…
The ghosts… Honchkrow, Empoleon,Gallade,Azelf,Darkrai, Frosslass,Pory-Z.. Gastro… that was pretty much it
Like that is all I actually liked…
And I honestly just started liking half of these this year (Honckrow mainly due to a nuzlocke where it basically saved my run)
Gen 4 is most definitely getting a remake either way, either this or next year, so it’s not like you’re forced to play it.
I won’t be bothered
Just ignore everything they post and pretend it’s just a fan game.
I’ll just find it a little bland
Lol he’s not saying they shouldn’t exist or that he’ll hate them
Just that he isn’t excited for them
He’s not saying they aren’t?
I’m excited, but I just don’t think I’m that ready for D/P remakes so quickly. I don’t think Platinum has aged still.
Hmm
If they don’t also give us the nostalgic “game-boy sound” type option for music in D/P remakes like they did in HGSS I’ll be pissed
Despite what everyone is saying i’m still excited for the 2017, 3D, Gen 4 remakes coming on the 3DS, that will be amazing.
*Switch
Don’t bring that up!
It has been brought up
Why put your game on the worse of your two hardwares
Gen 4 remakes would fit better on 3DS though.
No they wouldn’t
They’d have worse graphics for one
Uh huh
Mature
*Stars
Gen 4 remakes coming on the Switch, you mean. I thought 3DS devs were already jumping ship to the Switch, since the FE devs already did.
Emerald was released on GBA when DS was, sooooo….Stars is Switch and DP will be on 3DS.
Stars will be coming first, so why would they go back to the 3DS?
Better battery life and the fact that so many people already own a 3DS that they have a huge market?
It makes perfect sense market-wise as a safe business bet.
Diamond and Pearl remakes would sell a lot less if on the Switch, not everyone would give up the 3DS for 1 remake.
But the Switch is more of a combination of the 3DS and the Wii U (or what the Wii U should’ve been). It makes good sense as well for it to be on the Switch, since that way they’ll have the market of both the console players AND the mobile players.
I think we won’t really know which it’ll be on until we see the pre-order sales after it becomes available on Amazon.
If I buy the Switch, I’d have to get rid of the Wii U, and lots of my fav games on it, so I’m not killing my games for 1 measly console for 1 measly game.
Yeah well the Wii U was a terrible business adventure, and you’re not doing it for 1 measly game. There’s Mario, Breath of the Wild, Pokemon, Metroid, Fire Emblem…..
Still am skeptical to believe you can play it on the Switch where there’s no dual screen.
It’s called hitting start.
And if you’re worried about combat from a single screen, Battle Revolution shows you can still have good UI with one screen.
I’m not as excited for the Switch anymore, it’s overhyped and now slowly am disliking that machine.
How is it overhyped?
Well, I mean…. it kind of is.
If you haven’t seen it….. stay away from the Switch reddit.
It hasn’t even come out yet. Yes, it’s overhyped, but it’s just as overhyped as the D/P remakes, and they don’t even exist yet
And if you’re going to dislike the machine because it’s overhyped, that’s a problem with you, not the system. If anything you should be blaming the people who are overhyping it.
The way we did it back in 2003
You’re not the whole world genius
And the Wii U was a business flop and is due to die
Lol no
People will already have switches for Stars and other titles, you’re a fool if you buy a console for one game
And the 3DS will die as devs go to the Switch
They can use it to promote new software, create a better game, and it’s stupid to take a step forward and then back
Plus by 2018/19, the 3DS will be 7-8 years old and hopefully dead
So they release it in 2017 before it dies.
Not when stars is probably a thing
So they’ll have Gen 4 be 3DS exclusive and Stars Switch exclusive.
That’s true to promote new software (and also Pokemon on newest Unity engine is… tantalizing to say the least), but it’s a safe business venture just to lock so many consumers since GameFAQs polls put that more than half of gamers own a 3DS.
And sales for the 3DS are so astronomical it’s just the safe venture.
By that logic of release date, Breath of the Wild should be coming out on Switch first, since Twilight Princess came out on Wii first.
BoTW IS coming out on the Switch.
It is coming out on Switch, that’s not what I said. I said by that logic it should be coming out on Switch FIRST.
But it’s not. It’s coming out on Wii U first.
Yknow… I feel like everyone is nostalgia blinded in some way
Like, RSE for me
DP for others..
Like, I actually was so blinded by my love for gen 3 that I LIKED ORAS…. Though Mauville made me want to kill someone
I’m glad to say my favorite main series Pokemon game isn’t one I played in my childhood.
Although I guess I’m still nostalgia blind that I really love Platinum
there is nothing wrong with ORAS
AHAHAHHAHAHA
don’t be a fool, what exactly is wrong with them to you?
They’re lazy
Mega Evolution comes from butt fuck nowhere in the main story, they removed the iconic instruments (trumpets), and they were lazy and didn’t implement Emerald features like HGSS
EXACTLY
“lazy” … its not lazy if they chose not to do it. Mega evolution is great. and I don’t notice any of these trumpets you speak of, and I liked Ruby and sapphire more than emerald personally.
so agree to disagree
Choosing not to do it is like the definition of laziness
only because they didn’t do what you wanted them to do. but seriously we don’t agree on anything about this subject best to just move on
Except for a few things here and there…
There is plenty wrong..
AND FORTREE THEY WENT SO WRONG!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT FLAWLESS THEME THEY AHD IN RSE!?
…but fortree is exactly the same but in 3D
The theme….my poor theme…
it sounds pretty much the same to me but a little refined
I don’t like it… it sounds drugged… Fortree doesn’t sound happy anymore
Rip trumpets
The main things:
-No Battle Frontier. Huge, gaping flaw in my opinion.
-No gym leader rematches
Yeah… Actuallly, I think my nostalgia is more toward Emerald Hoenn XD
neither of those were in the originals though
But it’s still a remake of Gen 3 though. They thought about including it, but their reasoning for not doing so wasn’t “it wasn’t in the originals.” It was just a big lapse in judgement and they weren’t in synch with the fanbase on that at all. Rematches don’t need to have been in the originals to be included. They weren’t in G/S/C yet were in HGSS and was a great and easy feature to include.
rematches sure, should have done that. But battle frontier meh, good riddance, I like the battle place in FR/LG better
Can’t say I remember it, unless you’re talking about the battle tower in the sevii islands?
yes I am
Especially when you have the leaders on the trainers eyes
And Ffs you can’t use the ‘it’s not an emerald remake’ excuse because HGSS incorporated CDPPt stuff
WHY COULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN AN EMERALD REMAKE!? THAT WOULD HAVE MADE SUCH A GOOD GAME
(Grabs tissues)
emerald didn’t impress me, the only thing I really liked about it was that you could catch some pokemon from johto after the main game
Emerald really isn’t that much different, except for it being more difficult than ORAS was.
I know bt certain features, both legends, frontier, a few updated areas
difficulty isn’t a postive in my eyes, not because I cant handle it but for various other reasons
Mauville was the best thing about the remakes though..
Stop… stop … stop now
We all know the Groudon/Kyogre fight was
What’s honestly wrong with the redesign of Mauville? It was cool. The city sucked fucking ass before
The nostalgia….
I don’t have a problem with them changing things if it’s for the better. Mauvile was probably the worst city in R/S/E and they updated it.
I can see the point though…
I just got to say.. Fortree city was the reason my problems exist
I just wish they *actually* updated the rest of the cities in ORAS. Like they basically just ported all of them over and made them in 3D. That’s fine for nostalgia’s sake, but they could’ve done way more. Fortree could’ve been made way bigger and more intricate, Lilycove can be more “city like” and fucking Evergrande “City” can stop being a cave and a field of flowers. They needed to update the other cities like they did with Mauville. Not make them all big indoor malls, but do SOMETHING better with them. That said, I still like ORAS a lot.
Hmmm… I do like it a lot too of course
Secret Bases and the battle resort hatching trick were ace
But the music….
I didn’t really notice it being bad I guess. Kind of hard to live up to the gameboy versions since the trumpets were so loud and fake. They just need to start doing live orchestras like they do with Zelda. Anyone disagree? Like I think it would really add to the games, especially with D/P remakes
I suppose
Nah, I love Gen 3 and was severely disappointment by ORAS.
Like, I will say some things I loved.. but others… oh god….
The region was still beautiful as ever. Nicely updated.
Dex Nav was brilliant.
Soaring was cool.
The Groudon and Kyogre cutscenes were glorious.
But honestly, I dunno, i felt disappointment by the time i reached the end. I didn’t even think the Delta Episode was all that great after I was forced to do it in order to unlock the rest of post-game (which was incredibly dull)
Yeah… that was the problem… though soaring was a nice touch
What
They made Mauville better
I kinda went in expecting a lot of things to be the same… I like the design… but for a remake!?
I wish someone here had some good opinions, everyone dislikes what I like…
I don’t really know what you like.
I like Lunala, I believe 3DS Gen 4 remakes are a good idea and I think ORAS were good.
thats ok people hate on me for liking XY
I liked X/Y
At least there’s one thing I can find mutual feelings with.
I’ve never played ORAS so I wouldn’t know, I LOVE Lunala over Solgaleo (though I haven’t played Sun/Moon either), and I think 3DS Gen 4 remakes CAN be a good idea, but it depends on the pre-order sales of the Switch.
Maybe you just have trash opinions?
“everyone dislikes what I like…” you like Lunala, look at the poll…
That’s just 1 small thing, it’s 1 single Pokemon, Gen 4 seems to be highly unwanted here and lots don’t think ORAS was good.
I love Platinum wut
um alot of people here want gen 4?
I guess
You’re complaining about being different to everyone?
Well I haven’t found anyone who shares any mutual feelings towards the Gen4 remakes yet.
Dude i want gen 4 remakes so bad. idk where you get that nobody wants it
I meant it being on the 3DS someway.
everyone has opinions lol
I literally just said it could be a good idea.
>good opinions
Maybe you should look at my introductory comment to see if you share anything I like here:
http://pokejungle.net/2017/01/07/pokemon-mascot-showdown-generation-vii/#comment-3088594766
I’ll just change the first thing just because I worded it wrong.
Are you five
Or four?
Ok too far.
But just to be clear, I’m not sure I’m ok with you generalizing that “Everyone dislikes” what you specifically like, since that would imply we all are basically against you which isn’t true. I barely even know you, what would reason would I have to be against you?
And also, even if we did dislike a lot of what you like, this isn’t a safe space. Sometimes you have to talk to people who have different opinions than you. That’s the point of discussion. People don’t learn and grow by just having everybody agree with you, and then that would be a boring world, wouldn’t it?
People have differing opinions
You’re going to have to deal with it, life isn’t an echo chamber. And that’s what makes humanity so great
So, am I the only one using a team of mostly gen 4 evos on my team?
For the remakes
Well my ultimate team has 3 gen 4 pokes.
Huh.. I mean for teh remakes tho
Hm well aside from the starters I’ll have Honchkrow and probably porygon z. And then Staraptor.
I’ll just have
Empoleon, Honchkrow, Gallade, Drifblim, Porygon-Z, and something random
Luxray
Missigno
You already planned your team for gen 4 remakes?? .-.
it takes me seconds to plan
I just planned mine:
Empoleon, gallade, gliscor, weavile, roserade and rotom
Coolz :3
I planned mine too 🙁
Ok so since this is turning into a legit rom hack, I need different starters. They will be received at level 10. They all need to counter eachother so like
Fire-Water-Grass
or
Psychic-Dark-Fighting
remember, gen 1-3 only!
Qwilfish tho 🙁
He is the version legendary!
YESS it’s a rad pokemon
Almost TOO rad
Ghost-Ghost-Ghost
Shoot no i meant like what starters should I do. They have to be in these types
Oddish > Geodude > Pidgey
Wait no thats a trade evo
Grass-Rock-Flying
oh ye
Grass-Ground-Ice
Oops
Grass-Rock-Ice
I sent u a message on discord just testing something out
Oh cool, this website has a Discord too?
Yeah, but the people who use that and the people who use this are mostly different (nothing wrong with either).
Ah.
Alright one sec
Let me clarify:
Give me 3 pokemon as starters that counter eachother
Rock, Steel, Fire
NO NOT TYPES
POKEMON
Oh..so already made pokemon then?
Luxray
Krookodile
Horsea
From Gens 1-3 :in
Dammit.
Kingdra
Nidos
Ampharos
Nice Pokemon 😛
Houndoom, Breloom, Slowpoke
Two stagers with level up evos that have two triangles
oh I like these
Could you edit their evolution levels so they’re equal, or will players just have to deal with the difference in evo levels?
Because these Pokémon are too rad to give up
I’m not sure. I can look for a way to do that and set them all to level 27 or something
I’m pretty sure there is a way to edit them in advanced map or maybe I used a companion program
I think you have to download another tool like YAPE
oh yeah I used YAPE too so thats probs it
Alright cool
Not gonna lie thought that said vape and I was going to digitally slap you
Yass
Snorunt
Petilil
Hippopotas
Staryu, Houndour, Shroomish
Only disadvantage is they’re 2 stage, not 3
Elektrike, Carvanaha, Phanphy
Bologna
a screwdriver
Willie Nelson
You’re stuck in a room with your least favourite Pokémon
What is the Pokémon and how do you react (can’t kill it)
Alolan golem
I rip its fucking beard off
Alolan Golem is great
yet another failed Alolan Form
It’s a kids game and they’re humorous
Get off your fucking high horse
It’s not a high horse its the truth
That’s pretty rich coming from you
Roasted
Whoah clam
Golem’s line already is ugly and unneeded as sin, Alolan Golem is meh, I only like its humorous reasoning.
Earthen’s got my back
Puhlease. It’s better than Regular Golem. Yea I went there
Probably gonna end up with knives in it
He’d need an adamantium one
Didn’t say they’d work
I agree I actually kinda like it’s design. Too bad Golem didnt get the MArowak treatment and go from NU to OU. It’s stays pretty bad.
So great
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aef94612157ee68e3b56d6784c6a421d33bf5e1328e9c6cbcd07ba1814098912.png
It’s funny and adorable 🙁
I make a horcrux every time I see it
Choke it until its unconscious
What is it tho
does it matter i hate plenty of things
Toucannon. eghgggggg
Barbaracle, I throw fire at it despite the type difference
Id shake Lucarios hand and become its ally, never letting it know
>dislikes Lucario
I’m sorry, we can’t be friends anymore. It’ll never work out
*leaves through door*
hey I don’t hate it, I just dislike it because its over rated and it should have been thrown out of smash and replaced with Zoroak
>thrown out of Smash
*leaves rapidly through door*
I wanted Zoroark
Wynaut both
because they have shown they are not very generous for anything but Fire Emblem, like they really needed another zelda character too
Yeah well that’s just Smash 4 tho
Well yeah but when Lucario was in a trailer for Brawl, I don’t believe Gen V existed yet.
I was talking about smash 4
Well I mean having Lucario in Smash 4 was obvious. He was in Brawl.
Although Lucario has no combos in Smash 4 and I don’t understand how people can be good at Lucario on For Glory it boggles the mindyeah but when smash 4 was released they had cut a bunch of characters (who later were added but still) so at the time I was like, why would you cut them and not Lucario
because it was basically mewtwo 2.0
In Brawl he was, but in Smash 4 they’re so different it’s actually really frustrating as a competitive player.
Now the only thing Mewtwo and Lucario even share is a neutral B, and even then Lucario’s neutral B is both not very good until you’ve taken a lot of damage and doesn’t give you any self-knockback so it won’t save you.
PROJECT M LUCARIO IS BAE AND EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW
HEAR ME ROAR
Why do you dislike lucario?
hes the best fursona :3ok now I have another reason
It wouldnt be one, it would be 3: the elemental monkies, i wont kill them, i would eat them.
TASTY
But eating is lethal ;-;
Unless you’re taking about that unsavoury art topic
Rowlet
I pluck all of its feathers and feed them to Cat Pokemon.
Can’t kill it >_>
Ok then I pluck off its feathers and give it to every Cat Pokemon.
its not technically killing it
you can cook something alive, its not you killing it, the fire killed it
That’s like saying lighting someone on fire isn’t murder
is it though?
Yes
not how i do it ^_^
It’s how the law does it
Hate is such a strong word.
But probably Primarina. I’d tell it how ugly it is and make it feel bad.
Ok so my starters are Shroomish, Houndour and Slowpoke!
Thanks @ʕง•ᴥ•ʔง
Ya welc ʕง•ᴥ•ʔง
Remember, you can also edit the BSTs so that they’re the same! 🙂
o.o omg didn’t even think of that! Thanks for reminding me!
So…. How many of us are boxing our starter in the gen 5 remakes if they happen?
Uhh…yeah I would box snivy and then send over a contrary one
Pretty much
Uh i fucking love Tepig
http://pm1.narvii.com/5774/a76fd29a5ad4747c0b38b6f2c93e1bca4bd6bbf9_hq.jpg
Me tbh
I’ve used them all so much. Like them all, but I want a fresh start
I hate all of them… except the ones not named Tepig… Oshawott and Dewott are great but all goes wrong when they evolve
Sniv needs contrary
Are you kidding, Smugleaf is awesome
He was probably the best designed starter of all three.
Oshawott is a freaking popsicle and his final evolution isn’t that great, and Tepig is a pig.
Meanwhile Smugleaf is great because GtI
Gen 5 had starters? I’m sorry I don’t remember…
Yeah
No, it’s Gen 6 that doesn’t have starters. Gen 5 only had one, Serperior
And gen 7 only had two
Incineroar and Primarina <3
….
um gtfo
Use one and get back to me
I used one….. it sucked… the whole way through
Must be your nature, move set or team comp
My Karla rekt house <3
Oh, it had the best possible moveset and a good nature
It was the least useful member of the team… my careful KLUTZ STUFFUL WAS OUTPERFORMING IT
You mustve fucked up then :3
How? He was my most overleveled mon
It’s a joke
It could easily just be differing play types and team mates
Hmmm…
No but seriously, I used it and actually hate it more now
Really? I learned to love it really quickly, but post game refresh probably helped on that
I tried it on a nuzlocke…
However, it did change my opinion on Beware/Stufful
I used to want to brutally murder them
Now I just wanna hug em :3
Nuzlocke is really iffy on bonding for first timers tho becuase of the rules
Nuzlockes actually help me bond more
Like to Bewear and Honckrow
I mean, it was a player vs player locke with my friend and Bewear won it for me
What I mean tho is that you’re going to have less tolerance for your lower performing Pokémon
Oh, I don’t. I treat everything as equal to a sense… I had my game carried through the first trial by a Wingull named Billie Mays before it violently died from a rufflet
Can you make an exception if you find your favourite Pokemon as a shiny, yet you already caught a Pokemon on that route? Or, do you have to stand by the rules no matter what despite your inner feelings telling you otherwise and kill it/run away?
Shiny clause exists for all shinies
Oh ok, so you can catch it but not use it?
That is up to you
I’m using incineroar right now, it’s still a torracat. I’m treasuring our time together. Underwhelmed so far, but its fake out is pretty good.
Yeah, too bad no fire starter this gen
That’s an odd way to spell grass
We haven’t had one for a while huh
Literally tho
Since……….
Gen 4, the only Gen to have one
I actually liked gen 3’s fire starter
But yeah, that and four
Lol what Gen 3 fire starter
That one :3
But lets take a moment to explain how despite the designs, gen 3 only had one starter
I wish there was a grass starter Gen 7, it was sad that we only had 2. So many people didn’t even get a starter, I feel so bad for those who accidentally clicked the blank option.
Yo, you complain no one likes your opinion? Than actually learn how to make a correct opinion you fool!
I didn’t mean that I meant to say why can’t I find someone who has mutual feelings about that, I was n a rampage at the time.
He’s joking
Okie, and I only hate the first two evos, only Decidueye is amazing.
Rowlet is adorable. Dartrix is ugly af though
I actually like Dartrix because he’s the meme we all needed
Decidueye’s hideous goggles tho
Ruins it for me
I’d like Rowlet but:
– Overrated, too many people choose it.
– Too many Rowlet fans picking on Popplio fans.
So basically, it’s not its fault for me disliking it, it’s the people who adore it who make me dislike it technically. Not all Rowlet fans are bad, but the few that pick on Popplio don’t make me trust Rowlet that much. At least Decidueye is an epic final eve though, so it makes up for overrated Rowlet and Dartrix.
That stopped, everyone picks on Litten now
Most of the people who pick on Litten probably are dog fans. Why would cat fans pick on Litten (other than its evil final evolution of course)?
That is exactly why people do, that final form is bad.. really bad
I wish it never existed and instead it became a wondrous stealthy cat, like a cheetah, or at least be on all fours.
Or be fire poison like so many people wanted
Tbh iirc Fire/Dark was more popular
But as bulk? Nah
Honestly, that is why I hate litten, it became bulky, had a great attacker type but trash bulk type, and well… it has a bad design and whenever I see it all I think of is “WHY DID HAWLUCHA GET STUCK IN A BAD GEN!?” but hey…
Hmmm, although Decidueye was very good, too bad there were no pre-evolutions for it.
>:O
Since you can basically get all 3 of the starters with Island Scan and presumably like most games you can transport Pokemon to the remakes, I’m going to box mine. I don’t exactly like Oshawott’s entire line as a whole, Tepig’s line is yucky, and Snivy’s line I’m not too fond of.
Sorry i cant, serperior is awesome
YES I FOUND ANOTHER ONE
But no contrary
Nah. While they’re quite bad, our early options are even worse
Early options is BW2 were good though. Riolu, Mareep, Magnemite, Growlithe.
BW tho
Only good early option is Lillipup
True. But just wait till you get to the desert. Picked up three solid teammates from there, Darrumaka, Sandile and Scraggy.
Those three are life
Venipede?
Not that early
Why is it that people don’t like them? I never really saw a problem with any of them (except for the species change for Samurott, but design wise they’re fine)
Oh, they’re all trash besides Contrary Serp
so this is just a story campaign
Pignite is a fucking thrasher with Flame Charge and Arm Thrust
Also Scarfed Reckless Emboar is just a lesser Darmanitan but still effective
Arm Thrust…is like….a really shit move
Except on brawley’s devil makuhita in gen 3
Double Kick
Mach Punch
and Arm Thrust
these where the staples of all Fighting Starters, hell its the reason i love fighting types
I hate fighting types so much. They’re almost always bulky and annoying to kill.
not always but then again the most fighting types anybody ever fights is Conkeldurr, swords of justice, M. Lop, Medicham, Gallade and they’re a bitch to deal with
Just a tiny *tiny* bit.
Why not use a Psychic-Fairy like Mr. Mime to take them down?
Mr Mime is baaaaad
OK, then use a Psychic-Flying type? Or maybe Togekiss.
have you ever used it in a story mode?
2-5 hits
Darmanitan is cooler looking though so just go with it. Ape > Boar
Oh so you mean competitively? But it’s a playthough, who cares?
I made a switchmas chatango for the special day maybe we could move over all discussions there if needed?
http://switchmas.chatango.com/
68 new comments after I’m gone for 5 minutes. Feeling like the old days already. xD
Now I feel like a noob since I don’t know what the old days are
iirc before x/y there was a ton of activity and it’s kinda dwindled since then
Yeah everyone kind of disappears when there’s no new games/news
XY days. We would usually get 10,000 plus comments on each article.
Whoah.
Its one of those days…
Oh yeah 4 days until Switch direct
I assume we’re all going to party on here while it’s going on
depends if the mods will let us let loose for a hour 😉
There’s no guarantee I can get on the computer then but unless I die or something I’ll be on afterwards.
I’ll only party if there’l be actually good games releasing this year. I might buy the Switch if the new Mario, Mario Kart 8.5, Pokemon Stars come out this year. If not, I’m not buying it (at least until those are released).
I’d be surprised if they weren’t.
I hope the Mario Kart 8.5 thing has a discount if you have bought the other version PLUS the two DLC packs. maybe 5, 10? Probably not a huge discount as that’d risk the thing, but at least have some sort of little surprise for us who bought all of MK8’s things and DLC. As well for the 3D Mario, I hope it comes out this year, we haven’t had a good Mario game since 2014. Mario Maker is where we make our own levels so it doesn’t count.
The possibility of a new Mario Kart not coming out this year is so small after that trailer it’s almost impossible.
Same thing for new Mario being a launch title, even if LKD is spotty.
We should all use the chatango thing, the mods will flip if we don’t
chatango doesnt exist on here anymore
Anybody up for a 6v6 or battle royale?
if you get some schmucks i’ll royale
Royale?
So what is everyone’s gen 5 teams?
I only played through BW2
iirc it was Samurott, Arcanine, Lucario, Mandibuzz, and Gigalith. Can’t remember the sixth slot.
Hmmm
Emboar
Excadrill
Sawk
Leavanny
Eelektross
Golurk
Earthen knows what a good electric type is
Mmmmmhmmmmmm i remember teaching Eelektrike Flash cannon and that won me the Ice badge
I love its design so much
Samurott
Excadrill
Zebstrika
Simisear
Two more I can’t remeber
I think it was Klingklang and something else
And for remakes?
??
If they got remade
OH, the last spot was garbodor.
Samurott
Excadrill
Zebstrika
Simisear
Cincinno
Klingklang
Huh
No, I really REALLY liked Trubbish when I first saw him and played through.
and then I got smarter.
And now you should give Solosis a shot
I can’t even remember anymore. Gen 5 is the Pokemon gen that it’s been the longest time since I played.
I played until the bug-type gym leader, I quit after i lost against him. Not like I really was interested in the game by that time, I wasn’t even able to find his gym easily.
I can’t remember it’s been a while..I remember
Excadrill
Darmanitan
Scrafty
and a couple of others/…
Scrafty was my Subway Star
Do you mean what would mine be?
Volcarona
Literally all you need…
if I HAD to fill in the others,
Eelektross
Jellicent? Gen 5 water types are trash tbh
Hydreigon
Golurk
Serperior
I love this team
Carracosta is literally the only other water type option
I thought about that one…probably would go with it so I don’t have dual ghost pokemon
Yeah, and it is a lot better than defiatist bird
Also Reuniclus is a thing
True, maybe I would just skip the water type..
Look at my team mate
(I would grab Volc, but I doubt I’d be able to get it)
Well in B2W2 you get a level 35 one
True… but I also adore Chandy…
They’re both really cool. Although Volcarona is literally just a faster chandelure with quiver dance
But Chandy is stupidly cute
Its shiny is amazing too
I knowwwww :3
Gothitelle, Serperior, Zoroark, Zebstrika, Swanna, ???
I dont remenber the old one.
The new is: serperior, galvantula, chandelure and…. Idk
This time I’m using….
Chandelure
Scolipede
Carracosta
Reuniclus
Hydreigon
Eelktross
*Zweilious since that is what it’ll be for your playthrough :3
I’ll evolve it and I do not care how long it takes
Man, these gen 5 mons evolve so late ;-;
Scolipede is pretty cool tbh
Yeah :3, I grew a bond to one due to a nuzlocke where it valiantly died to poison a foe with two bulk ups and saved my team
Reuniclus!
I know! it needs more credit! It is super cute
Im glad im not the only one here who realises that Reuniclus is awesome 😀
It is! I fell in love from it the first time it showed up in that trailer
Right!? I love it so much. I hoped it would get a mega, but *shrug*
Hey, we all got mons to hope for
I may as well accept the fact there’s a higher chance of Gen 4’s remakes being on Switch. Oh well, if they happen and they are on Switch, I’ll end up buying the console, there are good games releasing there. Too bad that’ll be the end of Pokemon Bank and its simplicity to transfer!
Nintendo will probably allow you to transfer Nintendo Accounts over
I hope so, I hope they don’t pull a Gen 3 and make it nearly impossible to transfer, and then we’ll have to wait years later for a compatibility.
Lolno
Poké Bank is easily going to be able to connect with the switch
Thank gosh, honestly the #1 reason I was denying the truth of it being Switch is that I was worried it wasn’t going to let me transfer my Pokemon to the Switch games.
Tbh, it’s either’s game until we see the Switch pre-order sales
who knows maybe you can connect up the switch with pokebank?
because what if someone makes a new account by mistake
I hope so, if that’s possible, I’m fully pro-Switch. This is the only obstacle preventing me from being completely sure with the console.
Fun Fact.
Volcarona is the only Pokemon that takes Maximum damage from all entry hazards.
Poor ‘rona
Doesn’t escape the Web either
What’s an entry hazard?
OH GOD XD
;-; poor volvarona
Stealth Rocks and you crying like a lil bitch
It’s still a sweeper if used right.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3514f34b9a9aeedbfd65f5289bd1962abf1f6a6bca3340593ebff5a77eff3344.gif