Easily one of the best entries in the series, if not, arguably the best, Pokémon Sun & Moon has taken players by storm. And with only a month since its initial release it’s already broken sale records and danced its way into our hearts – but no game is perfect. Here are some things we didn’t like about our adventure through Alola.
The Rotom Pokedéx
Revealed as one of the first huge, new features of Gen VII in the early days of Sun & Moon’s prerelease the Rotom ‘Dex promised to give personality and new features to the age old Pokedéx. Instead we got an annoying, forgettable talking bottom screen whose dialogue was never really welcome or something we looked forward to. In terms of new features, it did give us useful pin point directions through the main story line and the Poké Finder (more on that later), but once you became the Champion Rotom didn’t serve any use other than giving very meaningless, repetitive commentary as your completed the Alola ‘Dex. And it’s completely baffling that they never made this new Rotom Form catchable and useable in battle. Overall, the Rotom Pokedéx was a fantastic idea to breathe life into such an old, unchanged device in the game, but its personality is much more suited for the anime where it’s a fully realized character, and for merchandise where it can remain as a mute, cute ‘mon to look at.
New Pokémon’s Low Encounter Rates
Pokémon Sun & Moon have some of the lowest and most exclusive encounter rates and locations for any Pokémon games released so far – being as low as 1% and 10% in only one place in some cases. For hardcore players, such as most of the people reading this, these low encounter rates are a welcome challenge and make completing the Pokedéx a little more fun and worthwhile. But for a lot of casual, younger players, its very, very easy to make it through the whole game without encountering a lot of Pokémon in the wild – even if you put in the effort to go and look for them specifically. Even though the Pokedéx is specific to what patch of grass you can find them in, it does not specify some special conditions, the inclusion of SOS Battles and other new encounter methods – making it hard not to rely on third party Pokedéxes to catch ‘em all. I can’t be the only one who spent a good hour just trying to find a Mimikyu, right?
Protagonists Being Numb to Everything
Chock full of several twists and turns, Sun & Moon had one of the best plot lines in the 20 years of the franchise. Encountering Ultra Beasts, meeting characters from games past, dealing with the Aether Foundation; as the story progressed we were left with face cracks of the centuries with each step we took into Alola – so why didn’t our in-game avatar react the same way? With very, very few exceptions the protagonist had the same aloof smile while everything was happening – no matter how sad, how dire, and how intense the situation was – Despite other characters around us having plenty of emotion and proper reactions. And, honestly, it was hard at times to focus on what was happening and to take things seriously when we had such a goofy, empty smile all the while. With Gen VII giving the most personal customization yet, even down to being able to choose the style in which you throw your Pokéball, it comes as a shock that Game Freak didn’t give our protagonist the ability to react to situations accordingly. Yes, Pokémon is famous for having a silent protagonist, but Red’s emotionless reaction to everything reads a bit better than an empty smile.
The Poké Finder
Another feature hyped for during the pre-release of Sun & Moon, the Poke Finder was marketed as one of the new aspects that came with the Rotom Pokedéx, and much like the Rotom ‘Dex it failed to dazzle fans. What most hoped would be a love letter to Pokémon Snap, turned into a very shallow, rather useless feature of the game. With the Poke Finder only working in a select few, pre-determined spots, the Pokémon and their poses being limited and repetitive, and no way to share the photos with other players, this in-game feature seems pretty useless. The only reason we’re still even bothering with it is to get that stamp on our trainer passport – and believe us, we’re just as unhappy with the amount of time we need to pour into it just to get it. All things considered, the Poké Finder was another great idea, but a poorly executed one.
General Lack of 3D and Touch Screen Use
Despite being on the Nintendo 3DS, 3D was completely removed in-game other than when firing up the Poke Finder (ironically, paired with its gyroscope capabilities, it’s quite possibly the worst place to enable 3D). Although several complaints about 3D causing slow down during battles specifically arose in Generation VI, and it never truly being well implemented in previous generations overall; its surprising 3D wasn’t utilized during important cut scenes at the very least. And, honestly, it’s a bit disappointing that Game Freak didn’t try to improve upon it, and instead decided to just remove the feature all together. One of the coolest features the 3DS has to offer is the 3D slider being so accessible and easy to use – letting you decide whether or not you want to enable the 3D. Some people don’t like it, some do, but just having the option is nice. And on a somewhat related note, Sun & Moon is a game that can almost completely be played using the top screen. Rarely is the bottom screen used and completely necessary…but perhaps that was intentional? Despite being a gorgeous game that pushed the system to the limits, Game Freak didn’t make the best use of the two defining factors and selling points of the 3DS.
Removal of Amazing Features From Past Generations
Sun & Moon took several leaps and bounds forward, but in the process of adding new features and expanding upon older ones, it seems like we’ve taken a step backwards in some areas. Horde Battles, although not a huge loss, was a fun and new battle style that provided a new challenge as well as an easier way to manually EV train and hunt shinies: however once entering Alola we found it completely removed. Moreover, the convenience of the DexNav, the PSS and Super Training is completely null and void now. Gone are the days of being able to easily tell if you’ve caught all Pokémon in the area with one glance – now you have to search the Pokedéx entry by entry to see if you caught ‘em all. Gone are the days of centralized EV training with Super Training – now you have to use in game currency across several different platforms to make your ‘mons the best. And gone are the days of being able to battle, trade and connect with other players with a single touch in the PSS, now we have to traverse through the awkward and troublesome Festival Plaza. And although the end result of all these axed features are still available by other means, how we went from everything being so seamless and convenient to clunky and complicated is beyond us.
No Side Quest Tracker
Despite being a staple in most RPGs, our quest through Alola really marked the first time in Pokémon where several NPCs gave us little side quests that spawned rewards if completed. A lot of these quests were as simple as catching a Pokémon and showing it to the NPC, and the money reward was definitely worthwhile, but as we traversed through the story some quests were left incomplete for a number of reasons. Now well into the post game, I have a desire to complete all the in-game trades and Pokedéx quests, but with no formal tracker I’ve forgotten where all these NPCs are, and what the actual quest was – once again making us rely on third party information hubs to figure it all out.
Despite these faults, Pokémon Sun & Moon’s wondrous region, story, characters, Pokémon and new features seem to completely eclipse any negative thoughts we may have about the latest entry in the series. What are some things that you found you didn’t like about Pokémon Sun & Moon and hope to see in the rumored Pokémon Stars?











What’s the likelihood of a crit capture?
Pokémon Caught Figure
600+————2.5
450-599 ———— 2
300-449 ———-1.5
150-299 ————1
30-149 ———–0.5
0-29 ————0
Um.
My simple mind is confused.
Oh I get it now
It depends on the amount of Pokemon species you’ve caught, if you only have caught under 30 Pokemon, it’s a 0 multiplier, so no crit capture. However, over 30 you have a 0.5 multiplier of it happening.
Well, I have 297, so I’m there. I could really use one right about now.
Fini has aqua ring. . .
This is going to be terrible isn’t it?
Yes.
Lele and Bulu were hard enough. Uggghhhhhhh.
Fini is definitely the hardest
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All the floof
it looks like strawberry milk.
it looks square
yeah I guess it does 😮
Now that, is a fluffy cutie little bunny, can i pet it, deer?
pet the floof bunny if you must 😮
No it’s an unstoppable force of destruction that will kill anything in its wake
But its still a lovable fluffy bunny
Until it gets mega evolved
oh yeah then you are getting sweeped
Then you treat it nice and feed it, it will be your bunny friend~
Oooh is it shiny?
yep!
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you know whats funny i’m 1 inch taller than a kommo-o and weigh a bit more too.
xD
haha yeah same with blastoise being 5’03”
Killed Fini. This is insane.
Just masterball it
Never!
I did
Using a master ball is like admitting defeat for me
i hope you saved before battle so you keep the pokeballs you used up.
Yep, I’ll just restart the fight.
Well I mean if its the last legend wynaut?
1. I don’t like the way it looks
2. It’s like a trophy more than a ball for me
Seriously I can’t even get a single ball roll on it. -_-
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Taunt it, then count turns until you have to do so again, prevent it from using Aqua Ring.
Provided it doesn’t use aqua ring in the first turn (synchronize switchout to taunt user)
Just have the Synchronizer fainted in slot 1. It still does the same thing. Have the Taunter in slot 2.
Hm, nifty
Also the Abra line learn Taunt through TM, so if you really must you can do that. I’d have Taunt and False Swipe on the same ‘mon. Smeargle with these, Psychic Terrain and Spore would be my choice to catch it. Or instead of Psychic terrain use Recover, wait out Misty Terrain then you’re free to Spore it.
There are waaay too many people using Mega Metagross on OU, it’s insane and annoying
It’s one of the best Megas available right now.
I know, but even so it’s getting a bit annoying
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60548a46d69c6d50e4df03818802841ac050773a547fa1c7deb943153efe9506.png .
his face looks like a fukkin old man
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you know what this is 😉
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IT’S YA BOI
Tsareena is so awesome. I sent it out first and it didn’t faint and it won me two Master Rank Battle Royals! It is so great
Really? What is your set? I struggle to use it well
Adamant, 252 on Atk and HP, 4 Sp Def, Queenly Majesty with Trop Kick, High Jump Kick, Rapid Spin, and Play Rough. I don’t have any of my team members’ items yet but I was going to experiment with Zoom Lens
Why Zoom Lens?
Security for High Jump Kick
Ah. Though I think focusing on attack power would be better since its so slow
Maybe, I’m still trying to figure it out
You mean Wide Lens?
No I meant Zoom, since its not the fastest, but Wide would probably be better. It’s been awhile since I’ve done competitive ^-^’
Well it’s faster than quite alot of Alola natives. Zoom could be good though, needs testing.
If you want to do zoom lens, wouldn’t brave nature be best
yeah but when i was breeding adamant came first
Zoom Lens provides more accuracy and Tsareena isn’t that fast…
I just thought it wasn’t that slow either this gen. Zoom is probably better.
ah queen of OU
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I want Guzma to have just a smaller version of Guzma following him around in Stars
I’ve seen this and it is perf
Sorry not sorry
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sorry
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How about zma?
Necrozma, I mean.
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Don’t talk to me or my (necro)zma ever again.
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hop aboard the shitpost train
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“Hey! Robbie Rotten!”
I imagine their voices getting higher pitched with every smaller guzma. xD
Now that, is funny!
xD
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(low key starting to get excited about Tracer being gay)
Confirmed already?
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yay happy lesbians
Neat!
I still want to date Tracer, I just have to hope she’s bi… :p
Tracer?
I think it’s the fast girl from overwatch
That group of males who had their dreams crushed, gonna eat dem tears
“my waifu is dead”
lol
XD
Seriously, I’m looking forward to it
Yes!! Tapu quest complete! I also just got a scizor from the GTS!! Now all I need is necrozma and silvally, which I just realized I can’t get necrozma until I beat the UB quest. Can anyone show me theirs? I need a supply of beast balls, so I don’t want to end the quest just yet.
You should just be able to buy Beast Balls, and Apricorn Balls too.
Sure, I’ll show you Necrozma and Silvally.
😀 I’ll be ready in 3 minutes!
Also I only need Necrozma, but thank you!
Ok then, I won’t need to show the other beast, got it. Just reply when yer ready.
Ready! IGN Andrew, I think we have each other.
Sent!
I don’t see it though, I’ll try to initiate the trade.
Wait, now I do, false alarm.
Thanks so much! 😀
No prob, enjoy your extra beast balls from extorting looker. :p
Oh I will. Even if they cost thousands of dollars per ball.
I doodled something yesterday when Starry was planning to draw Lopunny.
Here’s Lopunny doing a Long Jump (the Olympics event)…
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oh my god its the cutest
<3
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The battle tree in one video
When you breed a great mudbray and it has own tempo
:I
terrible
I really get the feeling they’ve made IV breeding easier this gen. Like I think it’s more disposed to putting the missing 6th IV in the negatively affected stat of your nature.
There’s really no way to prove that, but it’d be great if it were true.
No, but I’ve gotten so many perfect 5IV ones really easily.
My luck is horrid….
Really? My luck has been so good 😮
I have so far hatched 15 Wishiwashis and gotten one good 5IV……
Out of the 6 I need
Well laddie frigging da
Except on these mudbray. All mostly own tempo. The mom must be own tempo…
I can agree with that. I hatched a flawless Grubbin on the second egg. I also hatched a flawless Pikipek. I’ve never gotten two within hatching four different Pokémon
Yeah it took me like sometimes a few days to breed a 5IV pokemon in ORAS…but it’s just a couple eggs in SM
100 BP… T_T
Bye no thanks
I need one for a pretty legit reason
It’s worth an ability capsule if it’s shiny…
Ding ding ding! I got a Shiny Comfey with competitive stuff
That was a ride
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The 10th generation of Guzma must be nanoscopic…
All my bois
Siiiigh I’m shirking my Pokemon duties….I feel great dishonaroo
I have been playing Minecraft, Skyward Sword, Wow and Pokemon at the same time but hardly accomplishing anything (granted in SS I just got to the Sky keep which is the final dungeon)
I feel so obliged to play games like a job but I find myself just wasting hours day by day….l feel extremely lost in question, if these games are meant to be enjoyed why don’t I feel happy, maybe im scared to play competitive because it totally shredded my already fragile psyche fearing to lose or be upstaged, but deep down I have a flame that yearns to be set free to scorch my rivals in the field of combat, it’s days like this I need a total morale boost and a heaping dose of mojo to kickstart my war engine
Come, join VGC 2017! You can win with no Tapu/UB.
Proof: http://www.trainertower.com/san-jose-regionals-vgc-2017/
That maybe so BUT LOOK HOW MANY FRAGGING TAPUS I GOTTA WADE THROUGH TO DO SO
Well sorry, that’s the occupational hazard… 🙂
-___- I want to go back to XY Meta…
VGC ’14, well yeah true, Zapdos was the only thing you’d have to deal with other than the neverending hordes of Mega Kangaskhan…
Tapus only have 600 BP (UB even less) so they only are about as good as any Pseudo out there.
But other psqudos don’t have freaking terrain boosted attacks
Or Terrain protecting them
Honestly Salazzle is quite literally the only thing that can stop most of them, same for the UBs
A. Grimer defeats Tapus and resists most of their attacks; A. Marowak defeats most Ultra Beasts except Nihilego and Guzzlord who are hardly ever used.
THE WINNER USED AN ARAQUANID!!! HAH!! I KNEW HE’D BE GREAT FROM DAY ONE!
Not just the winner… even the runner-up as well. Meaning grand finals could’ve been an Araquanid mirror match (if both picked it).
😀
I remember when everyone called Araquanid a PU pick… before its ability and stats were even revealed I called it an OU god like threat waiting to happen and so many people laughed at me…. LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW!!!! 😀
How is this Primarina set?
Primarina @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
– Sleep Talk
– Scald
– Rest
– Amnesia
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no stop how dare you pull the most perfect meme on me XD
You really set yourself up for that xD
*Sends out Seismitoad*
*Primarina uses Scald*
*Water Absorb*
Why would I use Scald on a Seismitoad
YA NOTHING ElSE BUTT FOR BRAINS
I have 5 others
as I say many times you can’t always rely on teammates to bailout
Except i can
*Rolls eyes*
*eyes roll*
I’d change to Sparkling Aria you could then use Primarium Z on it
I need the Chesto Berry though
I meant go with
Rest
Sleep talk
Sparkling Aria
Amnesia
ehh
also, seismitoad is currently illegal.
NOBODY IS EVER TAKING AWAY MY SEISMITOAD
I SIMPLY WONT ALLOW IT
I hear you man, I miss my mega altaria…. and mega manectric… and mega bro-llade…
Screw that, I just genuinely have a strong bond with Seismitoad
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Vaporeon is, though…
Yooooo! Your using Rest set I rarely see them but of what I know it’s very good
Not on Primarina
Why like I need an actual explanation
You are bulky but not enough to justify that set
No fairy stab
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I could change it to Moonblast?
You are very much…..lacking of offense
Also if the enemy resists water you’ll be forced into retreat giving the opponent a slight edge
It might work better with Calm Mind (making it Suicune Lite), but unfortunately not on the move list…
specs. specs packs a punch. it ohko’d my mega metagross (max HP) with scald.
Modest or Timid
Too slow though are you sure?
well, I’m not sure the investment my opponent had, but I was quite taken aback when it happened. I’m thinking invest in its bulk (maybe split HP and a defense?) and sp.ATK. pelliper/politoed would make a good partner.
i got a perfect 6iv with the wrong ability :):)
Only 100 BP to fix it…
Unless it’s HA or you want HA… in which case, condolences.
is not worth it
what Pokémon?
arcanine
Bulk or Offense
bulk
Siiiigh fine, at least Araquanid could put a dent in it
nah, it has burn up too so bye bye weakness
PSHH
Nope, it still can’t take an Araq, it OHKO’a-2HKO’a anything that doesn’t resist it
nope. Intimidate, Plus WoW plus Burn Up plus Morning Sun. Pretty sure arcanine can stall araq
Araq cannot be burned, liquidation causes attack drops, Leech life regains health
DEFENSE DROPS I MEAN
AHHH I FORGOT ABOUT WATER BUBBLE DAMN
Tsk tsk tsk, that’s why Araq is so godly my friend :3, that and a perfect design
Though I do know a certain mon that it hates dealing with…
koko
OMG, finally, after all these weeks, DISQUS decides it wants to load! hello everyone!
Welcome back!
*Hurls a rock*
*catches the present earthen passes to me and cherishes it forever, because earthen is my buddy
It’s a big rock….like 3 by 4 feet, weighing around maybe…..70-90 lbs
oh I have super strength btw. I like the giant bow you wrapped it in, too.
Nobody is allowed to have super strength than me
It’s like the only two Powers I have ultimate reserves on
Elemental manipulation and super strength
Welcome back
GF really F*cked Incineroar I just looked at moves Weavile can learn while breeding and a Incineroar signature move Throat Chop can be breed on it
Throat Chop was honestly a blunder
Still awesome my favorite Pokémon is one of two that can learn it
Which one of the two… answer carefully ….
Weavile
Thank… god
At least it still has Darkest Lariat…
Yup still honored to love one of two to learn Throat Chop
Ok a bit more situational but
Primarina @ Choice Specs
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
– Moonblast
– Scald
– Attract
– Hydro Cannon
actually swap Hydro Cannon with Blizzard since I have A-Ninetales on my team
Do NOT run this
Hydro Cannon is an absolute trash sack of a move and Attact is unreliable
pump over cannon, if you realy need the extra defense. i’d also recommend hypervoice over attract to get through annoying substitute mons.
And scald is the better option overall, aria for breaking subs
aria is a sound move?
Yep, I saw it on one of Shadypenguinns videos, it hit past an Aeigislashes Sub
cool that’s really neat, I will have to keep that in mind.
Yep! Also makes its ability ENTIRELY unviable
Primarina @ Flame Orb
Ability: Liquid Voice
EVs 252 Attack/ 252 Speed / 4 sp attack
Naughty Nature
-Double Slap
-Growl
-Aqua Jet
-Pound
OHKO everytime with this set. 10/10 guaranteed. U can trust me
FOOL!! You gave it pound over the obviously superior hail Giga Impact set!
Dood, thatz overpowered. U cant b that gud. There r kidz who play thiz
Than run sticki barbb
But lyke my strategy is 2 hope they have thief and then I trick them cause I’m so clever and tricky. They get burned from flame orb lololololz. Itz so genieus
BUT TEH STICKII BAARBB MAKES DEM TAKE DAMAG OVR ECH TERN
But so dus flame orb! Plus lyke the attack cut! GOSH LEARN SOME FRIGGEN BATTLIGN
BUT TEH FULL ATTAK RUNS GOOD WITH SWAGGR!
UGH WHY U DO THIS. EVRYTIEM I SAY SOMETHIN GUD U HAVE 2 RUIN IT.
CUZ I AM VERLIFY FEN
Okay okay I need to stop that’s too far… no one is his fan
Lol u right u right 😉
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ok no offense but this set is just going every route with no bus stop.
Attract on a Specs sets? wyd
Let me help you
Specs Primarina Modest
252 HP/ 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Moonblast
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Energy Ball//Shadow Ball//Psychic
Aka, it’s only set
basically
At least it isn’t nutroar…
Attract would be used then I would immediately switch
Attact goes away when you switch
nope, attract is just a terrible move. Is too situational. Why would you lock yourself into that. What if primarina is your last mon and you are locked into attract. What if you just needed cheap damage to kill a mon and you are locked to attract. Is just doesnt make sense
Unless you’re running Dunsparce the way I do ;3
boi, no. Attract should never be used period
Trust me… I’ve made some… special things work
no
Obvi you’ve never run prankster mega sableye with attract, swagger, and thunderwave. Byebye
Lol it doesn’t even learn thunder wave.
You could do klefki with those 3 though
I managed to kill a Mega Meta with a Dunsparce without taking damage … and killed the entire team with dunsparces
I think I get how hax works ;3
anyone have a spare roseli berry they wouldn’t mind parting with? trying to get pink clothes is a pain.
Have a Colbur berry
that… is not roseli! I figured you of all people would appreciate the fairy weakening plant!
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The price is a Colbur Berry
oh I see. let me check the pack. I also need your FC
I have to empty my tank I’ll check in there
ehhhhh I only have one! I guess its ok though I don’t plan on using it
Don’t worry I’ll be planting it and I’ll give you one back
0963-1734-7194 I will trade it on a 6IV adamant beldum in a primier ball, so you get a little extra out of the trade 😀
Bah Mighty EarthenWarrior already has 6IV Adamant SHINY Metagross in a Beast Ball
T-T I spent so long looking for a shiny…. I just gave up…. ice punch adamant stufful it is!
Both punches in love ball
we gunna friend code or what?
I swear they need 100+ friends
4038-5998-9262
I have a ton, we added before, right?
Shut uuuuuupp I’m trying to make a sale
Ok then, have it your way. <3
It’s all I ever want
Much as I like it’s uniqueness I’m seriously considering Oblivious over Corrosion on Salazzle. Being able to use Nasty Plot without the fear of Taunt is looking more promising atm.
eh, unless you run sash you will die
Sash would be the plan yeah.
so basically this is a lucario 2.0
Well Lucario can probably survive more.
People don’t usually taunt a Salazzle, the taunter is usually dead
I’m thinking for Pranksters. Though I guess they’d be more likely to T-Wave. I’m just not seeing the point of Corrosion when I’m not running Toxic or Poison Gas.
Corrosion is for the people who switch in Toxapex onto a sludge bomb
Does Corrosion affect attack moves that cause poison? I thought it was only non-attack moves like Toxic.
Yep, that’s why I run bomb on it
Oh well then I may reconsider. I was going to run Sludge Bum on it anyway.
😀
yeah, its funny how much you realize the other ability would be worth it. I need to get a capsule for my oranguru, flinching doesn’t happen often, but it blows when it does.
Unless you are in doubles Inner Focus is obviously better as it actually has a use.
sometimes oranguru gets rockslide/fake out and ruins turn 1 lol. he’s the main reason my doubles team works, it sucks to have that synergy ruined
I guess, if you aren’t using anything that hits Oranguru too it’s OK, like Earthquake, Discharge etc.
nah, he’s there to make torkoal/drampa/toucannon hit even harder than they already do.i made sure their spread moves only hit the opponent.
TOUCANNON!!!!
I was shocked at toucannon’s damage output. its insane. ohko’s common threats like opposing torkoal, politoed, arcanine (even after intimidate) gyarados too, slowbro, its nuts. oranguru makes it all the better.
I want to hug it … I love toucans
But it’s speed is dukey you must be using TR right?
yes. its also pretty cool to be able to prepare a beak blast and have oranguru instruct it to use the last move (that wasn’t beak blast) used in the same turn.
… THAT IS INSANE!!!
Then Inner Focus is definitely better 🙂
Ok wow Primarina is a dang good sweeper
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-502143533
then i fell apart
Lopunny @ Flame Orb
Ability: Klutz
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
– Switcheroo
– Fake Out
– Return
– Healing Wish
Gardevoir @ Life Orb
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
– Psychic
– Moonblast
– Energy Ball
– Destiny Bond
Mimikyu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Disguise
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
– Leech Life
– Toxic
– Substitute
– Protect
Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
– Aurora Veil
– Confuse Ray
– Roar
– Blizzard
Absol @ Absolite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
– Swords Dance
– Night Slash
– Psycho Cut
– Knock Off
Primarina @ Choice Specs
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
– Moonblast
– Scald
– Energy Ball
– Blizzard
you are basically running two pokemon with the same niche (gardevoir, prim) switch one of them and find an utiltiy mon
How about Gardevoir for Magearna and Lopunny for Salazzle?
Magearna is also utility/sweep breaker
no lol, you are switching for the same results.
.-.
what would you recomend then?
Skarmory as a wall, run defog to get rid of hazards, if you want do spikes
Or a rapid spinner, there’s a few good new ones
yea, how would a utility Tsareena do?
best ones in the game rn
I personally prefer Komala for… a large amount of reasons
(Wish Rapid spin support is literally insane)
nah, i love tsareena, viable recovery, dual screens, access to u turn, rapid spin, a confirmed attack drop, and aromatherapy? plus it cant be wall by stee;s
True, but Komala fits my team more
I mean
Protect
Wish
U-turn
Rapid spin
It’s quite good for my team
yeah tsar fits my team so thats why i love her
😀
Komala is literally an amazing helper for Araq, it removes rocks which hinders it and also can heal it , basically it’s a stupid good duo
but tsareena doesnt fit your team so no
.-.
sorry! you dont want to add more weakness. I would do dhelmise tho
That’s the one I was thinking of
A spinner and spin blocker in one with a technically STAB Steel trapping move, the only thing stopping it is its’ speed and maybe weaknesses.
Although Decidueye can kinda do this too… roost defog Spirit Shackle
True, also Decidueye>Dhelmise for me regardless. Even if Spirit Shackle can’t trap normal types.
Yeah… all it needs is leech seed
(And trust me.. I tested what happens when it gets Leech Seed…)
We must hold out hope that it gets it next games.
It would be an AMAZING Comfey replacement
Comfey needs other moves too. I feel like GF left alot of moves off of the new ‘mon this gen, ones that would’ve made total sense.
Lemme say this.. Comfey is incredible… I started using one earlier this week… it has won me countless games… in singles
I’d like Moonblast and Giga Drain on it (not necessarily at the same time). Just to give it some more options.
Do this
Draining kiss
Calm mind
Aromatherapy
Leech seed
Does Draining Kiss get the Triage boost? Also is it busted by Psychic Terrain?
yes
eh, Dhelmise is better than Decidueye imo
There really isn’t a true better of the two because they’ve have rather different roles
funny how the 4 ghost/grass mons all have different niches and then you have all the water/ground that share the same niche
XD true
Fun fact: Gourgeist should not be PU… I used one in OU back in gen 6… it’s kinda insane
remember those mons are there for usage and not power. People just use trevenant more
I know… I just think people should look at it more
Also it’s literally the best user of skill swap in the entire game
How about I change Mimikyu to a Red Card attacking set and add in Toxapex?
eh, red card is only good on vgc not on singles. Also you are running a defensive mimikyu with no offense it wont take you far
Or in Battle Tree, everything is screwed there
No I mean change from defensive to attacking
run life orb not red card. you need as much raw power as you can with mimi. Also Toxapex is good
This team has a lot of weaknesses
poison:p
And steel
Steel is also troublesome once the Lop dies
I just want to state Substitute Focus Sash is an AWFUL idea, sorry
Wow I’m an idiot
Wishiwashi … why…