Easily one of the best entries in the series, if not, arguably the best, Pokémon Sun & Moon has taken players by storm. And with only a month since its initial release it’s already broken sale records and danced its way into our hearts – but no game is perfect. Here are some things we didn’t like about our adventure through Alola.
The Rotom Pokedéx
Revealed as one of the first huge, new features of Gen VII in the early days of Sun & Moon’s prerelease the Rotom ‘Dex promised to give personality and new features to the age old Pokedéx. Instead we got an annoying, forgettable talking bottom screen whose dialogue was never really welcome or something we looked forward to. In terms of new features, it did give us useful pin point directions through the main story line and the Poké Finder (more on that later), but once you became the Champion Rotom didn’t serve any use other than giving very meaningless, repetitive commentary as your completed the Alola ‘Dex. And it’s completely baffling that they never made this new Rotom Form catchable and useable in battle. Overall, the Rotom Pokedéx was a fantastic idea to breathe life into such an old, unchanged device in the game, but its personality is much more suited for the anime where it’s a fully realized character, and for merchandise where it can remain as a mute, cute ‘mon to look at.
New Pokémon’s Low Encounter Rates
Pokémon Sun & Moon have some of the lowest and most exclusive encounter rates and locations for any Pokémon games released so far – being as low as 1% and 10% in only one place in some cases. For hardcore players, such as most of the people reading this, these low encounter rates are a welcome challenge and make completing the Pokedéx a little more fun and worthwhile. But for a lot of casual, younger players, its very, very easy to make it through the whole game without encountering a lot of Pokémon in the wild – even if you put in the effort to go and look for them specifically. Even though the Pokedéx is specific to what patch of grass you can find them in, it does not specify some special conditions, the inclusion of SOS Battles and other new encounter methods – making it hard not to rely on third party Pokedéxes to catch ‘em all. I can’t be the only one who spent a good hour just trying to find a Mimikyu, right?
Protagonists Being Numb to Everything
Chock full of several twists and turns, Sun & Moon had one of the best plot lines in the 20 years of the franchise. Encountering Ultra Beasts, meeting characters from games past, dealing with the Aether Foundation; as the story progressed we were left with face cracks of the centuries with each step we took into Alola – so why didn’t our in-game avatar react the same way? With very, very few exceptions the protagonist had the same aloof smile while everything was happening – no matter how sad, how dire, and how intense the situation was – Despite other characters around us having plenty of emotion and proper reactions. And, honestly, it was hard at times to focus on what was happening and to take things seriously when we had such a goofy, empty smile all the while. With Gen VII giving the most personal customization yet, even down to being able to choose the style in which you throw your Pokéball, it comes as a shock that Game Freak didn’t give our protagonist the ability to react to situations accordingly. Yes, Pokémon is famous for having a silent protagonist, but Red’s emotionless reaction to everything reads a bit better than an empty smile.
The Poké Finder
Another feature hyped for during the pre-release of Sun & Moon, the Poke Finder was marketed as one of the new aspects that came with the Rotom Pokedéx, and much like the Rotom ‘Dex it failed to dazzle fans. What most hoped would be a love letter to Pokémon Snap, turned into a very shallow, rather useless feature of the game. With the Poke Finder only working in a select few, pre-determined spots, the Pokémon and their poses being limited and repetitive, and no way to share the photos with other players, this in-game feature seems pretty useless. The only reason we’re still even bothering with it is to get that stamp on our trainer passport – and believe us, we’re just as unhappy with the amount of time we need to pour into it just to get it. All things considered, the Poké Finder was another great idea, but a poorly executed one.
General Lack of 3D and Touch Screen Use
Despite being on the Nintendo 3DS, 3D was completely removed in-game other than when firing up the Poke Finder (ironically, paired with its gyroscope capabilities, it’s quite possibly the worst place to enable 3D). Although several complaints about 3D causing slow down during battles specifically arose in Generation VI, and it never truly being well implemented in previous generations overall; its surprising 3D wasn’t utilized during important cut scenes at the very least. And, honestly, it’s a bit disappointing that Game Freak didn’t try to improve upon it, and instead decided to just remove the feature all together. One of the coolest features the 3DS has to offer is the 3D slider being so accessible and easy to use – letting you decide whether or not you want to enable the 3D. Some people don’t like it, some do, but just having the option is nice. And on a somewhat related note, Sun & Moon is a game that can almost completely be played using the top screen. Rarely is the bottom screen used and completely necessary…but perhaps that was intentional? Despite being a gorgeous game that pushed the system to the limits, Game Freak didn’t make the best use of the two defining factors and selling points of the 3DS.
Removal of Amazing Features From Past Generations
Sun & Moon took several leaps and bounds forward, but in the process of adding new features and expanding upon older ones, it seems like we’ve taken a step backwards in some areas. Horde Battles, although not a huge loss, was a fun and new battle style that provided a new challenge as well as an easier way to manually EV train and hunt shinies: however once entering Alola we found it completely removed. Moreover, the convenience of the DexNav, the PSS and Super Training is completely null and void now. Gone are the days of being able to easily tell if you’ve caught all Pokémon in the area with one glance – now you have to search the Pokedéx entry by entry to see if you caught ‘em all. Gone are the days of centralized EV training with Super Training – now you have to use in game currency across several different platforms to make your ‘mons the best. And gone are the days of being able to battle, trade and connect with other players with a single touch in the PSS, now we have to traverse through the awkward and troublesome Festival Plaza. And although the end result of all these axed features are still available by other means, how we went from everything being so seamless and convenient to clunky and complicated is beyond us.
No Side Quest Tracker
Despite being a staple in most RPGs, our quest through Alola really marked the first time in Pokémon where several NPCs gave us little side quests that spawned rewards if completed. A lot of these quests were as simple as catching a Pokémon and showing it to the NPC, and the money reward was definitely worthwhile, but as we traversed through the story some quests were left incomplete for a number of reasons. Now well into the post game, I have a desire to complete all the in-game trades and Pokedéx quests, but with no formal tracker I’ve forgotten where all these NPCs are, and what the actual quest was – once again making us rely on third party information hubs to figure it all out.
Despite these faults, Pokémon Sun & Moon’s wondrous region, story, characters, Pokémon and new features seem to completely eclipse any negative thoughts we may have about the latest entry in the series. What are some things that you found you didn’t like about Pokémon Sun & Moon and hope to see in the rumored Pokémon Stars?











Does anybody remember their first pokemon team?
Back in my first Soul Silver playthrough, I knew nothing so I really just used Feraligatr the whole time. I struggled through the game (loved every second of it though) and made it to Victory Road and realized “oh shoot. I’m doing everything wrong” so I slapped a team together
Feraligatr
Onix
Gyrados
Lugia
Graveler(?)
Machamp(?)
Same idea, played with the first six Pokemon I caught.
Torterra
Bibarel
Crobat
Gastrodon
Scyther
Roselia
Pokemon Black 2?
Diamond
Pokemon Sparkling Diamon-oh no I said too much!
First actual team:
Greninja
Charizard
Forgot
Forgot
Forgot
Forgot
My very first team was Charizard, Jolteon, Nidoking, Slowbro, Vileplume, Kadabra(because trading was a SOB back then. Lol)
Link cable woes :’)
Venusaur, Butterfree, Pidgeot and Raichu are the only ones I remember.
I have Tapu Lele asleep and at 1 HP. It literally cannot be easier to catch, but it’s taking forever lol
Wait-you didn’t catch the Tapus yet? – gasps horridly – – screams and breaks all Noiverns – – spanks Slowpokes in fear –
what
the
fox
eats
is
earthenwarrior
xD
I wanted to catch them last, as a grand finale to my dex quest, but I’m still missing Scizor lol.
Don’t spank Slowpokes! 🙁
Well people eat their tails and they have little use so why not? We’ll just take 50 Slowpoke, make them Slowing and that’s it!
O.o Only jerks eat their tails. I mean… look at Mega Slowbro. Lol
Mega Slowbro’s a Mega?!
Question for you, guys!
Is there a game you bought on a whim that you enjoyed/loved? Same question, but “Hated/Regretted”?
For me, I recently bought Disgaea 5 and I love it. As for the game I bought and regretted, it would have to go to Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth. I have only 2hrs invested in that game, but can’t stand it. Lol
PS No whim bashing. Adventure is the spice of life. XD
I was going to answer this but i realized; impossible 2 answer.
I tried FE:A and it was my favorite video game for a few years. I didn’t even think I was going to like it at all.
To be honest FE:A is the downfall to the Fire Emblem series to me. XD I liked the game, but I like older entries more.
Yeah, I know it’s a very very controversial game.
But stating the series with awakening, I don’t really like older entries that much. I’ve tried FE7, 8, and Shadow dragon, but I didn’t like them as much.
Shadow Dragon was awful. Lol
Yeah. I have to say I liked 7 the most of the 3z
*3.
um first game that comes to mind is Xenoblade Chronicals X
Like dont get me wrong its a fine game but I was so in love with the world and wanted to just explore it but the game just wanted me to do the story which was just so so so bad compared to the Xenoblade on the Wii. I decided to progress through it just to get a Skell then I saw the first villain character who looked like a freaking stripper so just the annoying obvious pandering kinda made me put the game down and just decide I didn’t like this game. Beautiful world though for real
I LOVED that game!
Lol I hate Shulk so I didn’t even give it the time of day.
…shulk isnt even in this one
Oh, I know. XD lol
It has nothing to do with Shulk
I know, but I hate him so much. I just can’t. Lol
Shulk is actually awesome though in the Wii and New 3DS Xenoblade. Such an amazing and underrated game
I suppose. Can I mute the voice acting? Lol
yeah but why
I hate his voice. ?
VA is actually good in that game
Yes, loved that game!
I wanted to try it because I heard the praise the original got. I heard the battle theme one time and realized there was nowhere to go but down
The overworld music is the only good part of the OST.
Specifically noctilum day.
Yeah
I decided to listen and do something impossible; decipher the lyrics of the song. it somehow was worse than the theme itself
I’ve never really regretted buying a game.
I saw Super Paper Mario one day in the discount section of a store, bought it because it looked cool, and I enjoyed it a lot. I bought Pokemon Conquest well after release while I was away because I was going to be travelling and needed something to do. Also really enjoyed it a lot.
oh my dont get me started… so many games i regretted…. paper mario sticker star, kid icarus uprising… so many more. as for a game a really enjoyed. pretty much anything i didnt hate. xeno, xenox, bravely second.
easy, hyrule warriors
Regret? Or Loved?
regret
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga, loved it and bought the sequel when it came out.
One of the Harry Potter games on PS2, I don’t remember which but it sucked.
Loved Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor was my favorite!
I’ve only gotten to play Digital Devil Saga 1&2. DDS has a great story and a really cool way of opening up its’ characters who start off as empty shells, devoid of personality, then unlock them as the story progresses. Also number 2 had the scariest moment I’ve had in a game, trying not to get caught by a Jailer.
I really feel like I should reset for a good natured Tapu, but they’re hard to catch and I know deep down I’d never use it.
What if there was a shiny and then it ended up dying because it heard the word from a shiny Pikipek you want dit.
I’d probably die of heart attack.
If that white loving Rowlet was here he’d say to kill the shiny Tapus.
Speaking of shiny Tapu, they are amazing, I hope we can SR in stars.
um….after reading this i think its appropriate to ask….what did you guys actually like about the games. you start off with “arguably the best” but then listed like 7 pretty big things… lol
Pokemon
Story
Characters
Features
Quality
Yeah the article is too negative for me.
-Characters
-UB’s and quest
-Pokepelago
-Daycare revamp
-Diversity among cities/towns
-Feels like a region steeped in heavy culture
-NANU
-New pokemon better than gen 6
-Music!
-Pokeride/replacement of TM’s
-IV checking
Probably more stuff
lol nanu? and i think you mean HMs lol i like all this stuff too. but about the daycare….um…first she’s always crossing her arms like “how did this happen” even after like 100 eggs… also she’s like “oh there you are” when I’ve been running around in circles in front of her…. lol
Haha I was mainly talking about the pokemon not leveling up anymore. But yeah, she even follows you with her head.
And Nanu is AWESOME
I really wanna catch Lele in a heal ball but it’s horrible.
Lele or the Heal Ball?
Heal ball catch rate
It’s a x0.5 right?
I have no idea.
I hate myself, I refreshed the page and now all the notifications are gone bye bye.
I never use notifications.
Maybe that’s why you don’t get a shiny Pik
Hmm….
I GOT 3 ROLLS WITH A BEAST BALL WHYYYYYY ;_;
Shoot, emergency exit kicked in.
I have a tip – beat up the Pokemon you were trying to catch and tear their HP.
It’s at 1 HP.
Threaten a nuclear Z-Move.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH THANK YOU
You’re welcome.
Still going for Lele?
Yup.
yay found this while looking up a lopunny reference so cuuuuuute
https://cdn.weasyl.com/static/media/f7/25/2d/f7252d798d179933590fa7027f8b86198adb041fbcbb2592844e19f280de683b.png
i mean since it is the article topic, ill voice my opinion. I think the addition of the rotom dex was a really cool feat. It was very “cute” and enjoyable having an interactive pokedex it definitely made collecting the dex exciting. second, i dont really get the lack of touch screen part? there wasn’t any except the amie last gen either….also I’m gonna be honest the ds 3d sucks. i dont think anyone can say its that great and bearable to keep on the whole time while playing a game. personally, i dont wear glasses and my vision is ok whatever but the 3d actually gives me a headache and hurts my eyes. next, i think the poke finder was really fun. yes, it wasn’t too much but it was like pokemon snap, very similar concept and it was great to include the concept of such an amazing classic game. next, i agree that the low chance for new pokemon was a little crazy but it really wasn’t too hard to find stuff. serebii lists soo much as 5% but everything was easy to find. i found lapras for example on my first try while catching everything i can catch in my game. next, the side quest tracker. seriously? you want a tracker i have one, its called google. having to find stuff on your own was great since well its an adventure and it makes it more exciting. the main game was completely linear you had rotom helping you out if you ever found yourself going the wrong way, it has a little flag to tell you which is what soo many games do. and i guess finally the exclusion of old feats. first of all, with a new game comes new mechanics. PSS sure was great and convenient but festival is so fun. it brings back the little missions like in BWB2W2. also the pelago i think is a great and really fun mechanic, and i actually fully upgraded it last night. i dont really get what we needed back from old games. if gen 4 remakes come out in the future we will get the poketch back. but yeah just my long opinion on all of the things listed above
I think it’s ironic that they didn’t even complain about the issue people are complaining about the most: the difficult grind of levels and BP.
Thank you!!! this is 100% true. this is the real problem. getting the pseudos, (and all pseudos i think can be found in these games) are soo hard to level up!!
nnnnn, them UB killing every single mon i had
sorry for the wall and i guess ill post this too. TL:DR, i dont get the negativity of sun and moon mentioned above
You can have Festival Plaza etc and PSS. PSS made trading and battling so much easier it’s not even funny. DexNav was also a very helpful feature for many reasons.
What’s everyone’s play time? I have 163 hours clocked in.
55 i think
Yes!! Heal ball Lele!
Please be a good nature please be a good nature
Careful 🙁
r i p
Reset yay or nay
ugh, if you are willing to use it competitive yeah. I mean Lele is the best tapu
Might as well go grab an Abra.
I’ll probably never use it but my conscience will kill me if I don’t.
i know the tapus will be everywhere competitive but hear i am not using one:p
It’s just handy to have if I ever want to
What do I go for? Calm?
nope, timid or modest, slap a scarf or specs and you are golden
Alright, thanks!
lol i went for my tapu lele too. caught it about 10 times. used ultra ball cuz 1) dont care too much about aesthetic, and 2) i knew i was gonna hunt for the one i wanted. got timid with hidden power fire. Exactly what i needed
Is thy not thy perfect man
here is the sketch for Lopunny 3.0
http://i.imgur.com/Yr4k17n.png
Errr…uhhh…oooooh…eehhh….yuuuuu…mmmm….ooooo.hhsssss…uhhhh.pooo…..nice!
???
lol
no like I actually want to know what you were saying with that
You know what i mean i like it but the eyes stalled me for a few secs or so
Floof
What are the chances in the FP Lottery?
I feel like it’s
10. – 65%
9. – 40%
8. – 32%
7. – 28%
6. – 25%
5. – 20%
4. – 15%
3. – 6%
2. – 3%
1. – 0.9%
Let me rewrite it.
Lol I got 1st prize on my first spin ever
I think we always get 1st/2nd on the first spin on a newly installed lottery.
I feel like this would be a 1-2 star lottery:
10. 75%
9. 60%
8. 55%
7. 45%
6. 37%
5. 25%
4. 15%
3. 7%
2. 2%
1. 0.3%
3-4 Star Lottery:
10. 64%
9. 54%
8. 50%
7. 41%
6. 35%
5. 29%
4. 20%
3. 15%
2. 10%
1. 4%
But… it doesn’t total 100% though?
Meh simple flaw in the web of chances.
What’s everyone’s favorite island? Personally IDK why but I really like MeleMele.
hmm…. i like all of them so much. the beginning of poni reminds me of one of my favorite hoenn towns, Pacifidlog
Honestly? Akala for the variety
I really hope in stars we can more fully explore Brooklet hill. That would have been my favorite place in the game if it weren’t so limited.
I mean, the second best Pokemon lives there
Alomomola? Yeah, I get it. It’s hard to resist beauty in its purest form.
Araqaunid my boi
Ahem. Dewpider live there. Araquanid live in Malie garden.
Any nickname ideas for me? xD
I know but I picture them living there too XD
I dunno yet as I’ve been homeworking all day
I should be studying, but I have an unnatural gift to wing exams and ace them. 😛
I do too, but I’m too paranoid a majority of the time XD
Akala!
Ayyy!!!
A k a l a
MeleMele just feels like vacation to me, so that’s why I love it I guess. Best explanation I can come up with.
I really like Ula’ Ula’ Island, some of my favourite locations like the Malie City and Garden, the Electric Trial mountain and the Meadows.
Akala was awesome, it had so much diversity in environment and landscapes on that island. I also appreciated the different types and styles of towns there, too.
so i think i found the perfect place to hatch eggs! the little space infront of the lady that gives you eggs
Yeah it’s much better than “the sweet spot”. I like to ride around Akala for a change of scenery.
yep, i just get inside, call tauros, and then just go in circles
No, that’s what I meant was not good. I thought you meant outside there. No, that’s death to the circle pad.
not really though
Ya rly
not when you have a lame 2ds
What sweet spot?
yup! you also dont need to circle the circle pad so much you can move it quite slowly and still have the speed of tauros going. won’t break the pad lol
I hate doing it in there. Just go to the route directly south. You can go up and down without exiting if you just move over a tiny bit so that you run into the fence instead of going back to the daycare. You can also break the big rock on that route and find stardust and earn extra money while hatching eggs
Can somebody explain why Bruxish of all things was given Dazzling? It literally gets zero use out of it
It helps when Sucker Punch is used and then it fails 😛 It’s got a pretty decent attack stat to go with it
But it gets zero use because Strong Jaw is a trillion times better on it
Dazzling what?
The ability
This proves my point, it’s so irrelevant that you don’t even know it. Why is it on freaking Bruxish
This isn’t a Pokémon comment, but it’s aimed towards Nintendo loyalists. For those of you who are really cool and have a Wii U, I totally recommend Paper Mario Color Splash. It’s a fun time all around, even though it’s quite easy and repetitive. The writing is stellar and has made me laugh many times. I have a couple more Big Paint Stars to get (and a Bowser final boss, no doubt) before finishing. If you want one last RPG to play on the Wii U before the Switch, you should give it a shot. I’m happy I’ve been playing it right before I (almost) completely transition to the next generation, because it’s a great example of why the Wii U deserves respect in its own right.
the wii u was an amazing console, sadly that bad marketing in the beginning doomed it forever
I’m really excited about this Lopunny so much flooooof
Anybody wanna 6v6 in-game?
https://youtu.be/4zLfCnGVeL4
Ugh, Bulu gave me 8 3 rolls in a row with no capture. And then it killed all of my Pokemon.
Bulu was the easiest (other than Koko, I didn’t want to not catch it and used my Master Ball on it) for me and lucky for me, as its terrain healed it. I caught it after 2-3 balls or so, ironically it being my least used Tapu (Koko at 95, Lele at 89, Fini at 81, Bulu at 67).
It’s so annoying lol. I have it paralyzed and at 1 HP, too.
Yes, caught!
post your favorite pokemon in a gif
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ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA!
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Alternatively:
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omg this art style is amazing I love it
Just keeps getting better~
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It didn’t know it turned green like that lol
XD
It’s a fighting phase thingy
RRRarrgh!
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(I can’t figure out how to post the actual GIF itself,could anyone help me with that?)
Hey, @starstorm295:disqus I like your art, i am also an artist, would it be possible to chat with you on something like skype, if not i understand deer. Just askin~
Sure 😛
Cool, Skype CleverDerpy, if you get two results, go for both, i had a deactivated account.
sent!
Thanks, it’s a pleasure to formally meet you~
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I want somebody to draw these pictures as a normal and shiny litten.
if it’s okay ‘