Easily one of the best entries in the series, if not, arguably the best, Pokémon Sun & Moon has taken players by storm. And with only a month since its initial release it’s already broken sale records and danced its way into our hearts – but no game is perfect. Here are some things we didn’t like about our adventure through Alola.
The Rotom Pokedéx
Revealed as one of the first huge, new features of Gen VII in the early days of Sun & Moon’s prerelease the Rotom ‘Dex promised to give personality and new features to the age old Pokedéx. Instead we got an annoying, forgettable talking bottom screen whose dialogue was never really welcome or something we looked forward to. In terms of new features, it did give us useful pin point directions through the main story line and the Poké Finder (more on that later), but once you became the Champion Rotom didn’t serve any use other than giving very meaningless, repetitive commentary as your completed the Alola ‘Dex. And it’s completely baffling that they never made this new Rotom Form catchable and useable in battle. Overall, the Rotom Pokedéx was a fantastic idea to breathe life into such an old, unchanged device in the game, but its personality is much more suited for the anime where it’s a fully realized character, and for merchandise where it can remain as a mute, cute ‘mon to look at.
New Pokémon’s Low Encounter Rates
Pokémon Sun & Moon have some of the lowest and most exclusive encounter rates and locations for any Pokémon games released so far – being as low as 1% and 10% in only one place in some cases. For hardcore players, such as most of the people reading this, these low encounter rates are a welcome challenge and make completing the Pokedéx a little more fun and worthwhile. But for a lot of casual, younger players, its very, very easy to make it through the whole game without encountering a lot of Pokémon in the wild – even if you put in the effort to go and look for them specifically. Even though the Pokedéx is specific to what patch of grass you can find them in, it does not specify some special conditions, the inclusion of SOS Battles and other new encounter methods – making it hard not to rely on third party Pokedéxes to catch ‘em all. I can’t be the only one who spent a good hour just trying to find a Mimikyu, right?
Protagonists Being Numb to Everything
Chock full of several twists and turns, Sun & Moon had one of the best plot lines in the 20 years of the franchise. Encountering Ultra Beasts, meeting characters from games past, dealing with the Aether Foundation; as the story progressed we were left with face cracks of the centuries with each step we took into Alola – so why didn’t our in-game avatar react the same way? With very, very few exceptions the protagonist had the same aloof smile while everything was happening – no matter how sad, how dire, and how intense the situation was – Despite other characters around us having plenty of emotion and proper reactions. And, honestly, it was hard at times to focus on what was happening and to take things seriously when we had such a goofy, empty smile all the while. With Gen VII giving the most personal customization yet, even down to being able to choose the style in which you throw your Pokéball, it comes as a shock that Game Freak didn’t give our protagonist the ability to react to situations accordingly. Yes, Pokémon is famous for having a silent protagonist, but Red’s emotionless reaction to everything reads a bit better than an empty smile.
The Poké Finder
Another feature hyped for during the pre-release of Sun & Moon, the Poke Finder was marketed as one of the new aspects that came with the Rotom Pokedéx, and much like the Rotom ‘Dex it failed to dazzle fans. What most hoped would be a love letter to Pokémon Snap, turned into a very shallow, rather useless feature of the game. With the Poke Finder only working in a select few, pre-determined spots, the Pokémon and their poses being limited and repetitive, and no way to share the photos with other players, this in-game feature seems pretty useless. The only reason we’re still even bothering with it is to get that stamp on our trainer passport – and believe us, we’re just as unhappy with the amount of time we need to pour into it just to get it. All things considered, the Poké Finder was another great idea, but a poorly executed one.
General Lack of 3D and Touch Screen Use
Despite being on the Nintendo 3DS, 3D was completely removed in-game other than when firing up the Poke Finder (ironically, paired with its gyroscope capabilities, it’s quite possibly the worst place to enable 3D). Although several complaints about 3D causing slow down during battles specifically arose in Generation VI, and it never truly being well implemented in previous generations overall; its surprising 3D wasn’t utilized during important cut scenes at the very least. And, honestly, it’s a bit disappointing that Game Freak didn’t try to improve upon it, and instead decided to just remove the feature all together. One of the coolest features the 3DS has to offer is the 3D slider being so accessible and easy to use – letting you decide whether or not you want to enable the 3D. Some people don’t like it, some do, but just having the option is nice. And on a somewhat related note, Sun & Moon is a game that can almost completely be played using the top screen. Rarely is the bottom screen used and completely necessary…but perhaps that was intentional? Despite being a gorgeous game that pushed the system to the limits, Game Freak didn’t make the best use of the two defining factors and selling points of the 3DS.
Removal of Amazing Features From Past Generations
Sun & Moon took several leaps and bounds forward, but in the process of adding new features and expanding upon older ones, it seems like we’ve taken a step backwards in some areas. Horde Battles, although not a huge loss, was a fun and new battle style that provided a new challenge as well as an easier way to manually EV train and hunt shinies: however once entering Alola we found it completely removed. Moreover, the convenience of the DexNav, the PSS and Super Training is completely null and void now. Gone are the days of being able to easily tell if you’ve caught all Pokémon in the area with one glance – now you have to search the Pokedéx entry by entry to see if you caught ‘em all. Gone are the days of centralized EV training with Super Training – now you have to use in game currency across several different platforms to make your ‘mons the best. And gone are the days of being able to battle, trade and connect with other players with a single touch in the PSS, now we have to traverse through the awkward and troublesome Festival Plaza. And although the end result of all these axed features are still available by other means, how we went from everything being so seamless and convenient to clunky and complicated is beyond us.
No Side Quest Tracker
Despite being a staple in most RPGs, our quest through Alola really marked the first time in Pokémon where several NPCs gave us little side quests that spawned rewards if completed. A lot of these quests were as simple as catching a Pokémon and showing it to the NPC, and the money reward was definitely worthwhile, but as we traversed through the story some quests were left incomplete for a number of reasons. Now well into the post game, I have a desire to complete all the in-game trades and Pokedéx quests, but with no formal tracker I’ve forgotten where all these NPCs are, and what the actual quest was – once again making us rely on third party information hubs to figure it all out.
Despite these faults, Pokémon Sun & Moon’s wondrous region, story, characters, Pokémon and new features seem to completely eclipse any negative thoughts we may have about the latest entry in the series. What are some things that you found you didn’t like about Pokémon Sun & Moon and hope to see in the rumored Pokémon Stars?











Just got my second Gen 7 shiny: Wishiwashi! I was starting to EV train my Comfey, and after a chain of FOUR I heard that sparkle!
Chain of FOUR!?! That’s insanely lucky, congrats man! 😀
But seriously, chain of FOUR!? I’m up to 2650 for pikipek with nothing.
Still not a single shiny encounter of Sun and Moon, and I’ve tried chaining a bunch of things for HA
Both my shiny encounters were while I was EV training too. Every time I try to hunt something specific I get bored and can’t keep it up.
Dang still no pikipek yet that’s just insanely bad luck.
Are you doing Masada Method or do you have a Charm?
So I caught a Minior today. It’s for my party. So it’s green and I can’t think of nicknames. Here’s a list i put together. I’m open to suggestions.
– 252P/LINEAR (A comet that has a green tail)
– 774M/GREEN (The way they would nane a comet, except the number is Miniors Dex number and the discoverer’s name is me)
– NGC 774 (How they name Nebulae and Galaxies, but the number is Minior)
– Pulsar
– Magnetar
– Antares (A star system where all but one star is green)
– Swift-Tuttle (A comet. The name seemed fitting)
– Eclipse (If I can get a shiny)
I’ll be naming mine Bopp. After the only comet I know by name. :p
I was going to catch a female and name it “Haley” but they’re genderless. >.<
Eh, just name it Haley
Yeah. I called my Zygarde “Medusa”
It’s Genderless, but I don’t care that much
Maybe if I get another one, but I’ve grown attached to Polaris, even though it doesn’t make that much sense.
Which one should I use?
I personally like Antares. The numbers in the name seem impersonal to me, and I couldn’t get attached to it.
I really like the numbers. But I’ll wait for more opinions
I might end up using the numbers
Well we’re all different. I just have this quirk where special characters bug me. That’s why I rename Farfetchd, PorygonZ, and Null. (Sadly, Pokemon like Ho-oh and Porygon2 make more sense with than without)
I love special characters. I’m weird in that way because I always imagine a trainer going like “Go! [Mangle of numbers and stuff]”
I really like the star theme. I named mine ‘Polaris’.
I named all my others after types of stars, Red is “Red Giant”, Yellow is “Yellow Dwarf”, Blue is “Blue Giant”, Orange is “The Sun”, Purple is “Magnetar”
That’s cool! One suggestion: maybe name them after specific stars, to give it a little more flair? Like maybe “Rigel” instead of “Blue Giant”, because Rigel is a blue supergiant or something like that. Either way, I love the theme you have there!
I was gonna name them after stars, but I don’t really wanna put that much effort into something I’m not gonna use.
True, I only name bred mons.
I only name every single Pokemon I ever own. But only the ones in my party get thought through. For example, I named a Finneon that I’m never gonna use “Flaps”
Yeah, I have a friend who does that. I don’t really see the appeal, the nicknames are something special to me, but it’s up to opinion really.
The nicknames of my party mons are very special to me. Theyre very well thought out and make a lot of since. “Willow” the female Decidueye (25 resets for that one), “Fatale” the Salazzle, “Expand Palm” the Alolan Exeggutor (Okay it might not seem very good but it’s an inside joke that Poekoko and I have)
Yeah, I’m sure there’s a bunch more thought put into those than the box mons. It’s just a habit I have, name nothing that isn’t shiny or IV bred.
altair, vega, orion etc
How about:
Vert (French for Green), Apollo, or Orion
Why are there construction sites in several cities/islands?
“Maybe it means something is gonna happen.” ~Dexio
Wait did he really say that?
When you talk to them about Zygarde, he says stuff about how Zygarde manages the ecosystem of Kalos and it’s weird that it’s in Alola. Then he says that.
Oh, I thought it was about the lots.
Zygarde being in alola was really stupid, it was just there because XY was rushed lol
but atleast we got 10% zygarde which makes zygarde viable lol
Is 10% Zygarde much better than 50%?
I sill enjoy using the Sub Coil set on 50% and now It’s much better cos of Thousand Arrows
yes, banded jolly 10% is really nice it outspeeds alot of mons
battle frontier in every city /s
This is why Anabel is in the games cunfurmd
Sorry to ask another time but this is the last time. I just need
Slowking, Persian, Braviary, Cottonee, Whimmsicott and Drifloon
Like trade or nicknames?
I’m assuming trade. I’m not your man, in that case.
for my dex
I have Drifloon!
I need to keep it though to evolve is that alright?
Oh yeah, go ahead. I don’t need it anymore.
Ok, getting online. Sure you dont have a cottonee?
I can check, but I don’t think I do.
Why do you keep turning it down? ;~;
accident D:
No cottonee, sorry. >.<
can you show me any eevees?
Oh, yeah. Sorry I left, oops.
its ok 😛
I may not have any, but I had three at one time. It’s hard for me to track what I have and what I don’t, I’m constantly trading and stuff.
I meant eeveelutions whoops
Oh, sure. Do you just want a drifblim, so you don’t have to level it up>
Yee
Oops gotta go. Want it back?
Nah, keep it. I can trade more later if you still need some stuff.
Thank you!
No problem. 😀
I would like to trade over a Cottonee, but at the moment I don’t have wifi for my 3DS. Sorry…
;-;
its ok
I have persian and braviary
Do you have milotic magmortsr clefable sandslash honchkrow
Are you still here? I dont have any of those though
Hey. Hey guys
http://store.steampowered.com/news/26415/?snr=1_550_552
vote for To The Moon when its up for voting. It deserves this award for real. It needs all the help it can get going up against Undertale, Life is Strange and The Walking Dead
“I never told anyone… but I always thought they were lighthouses. Billions of lighthouses… stuck at the far end of the sky. Shining their light at each other, and at me.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRJ_DuXP6IM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke9r-ldeX6g
Pure beauty
OMG, this movie was my childhood, also why in japanese?
That’s why its magical
I feel like Pokejungle is a little quiet right now, yet how’s everyone doing?
The site is quiet because most people have learned to avoid it, after seeing how comments sections on every article devolve into mindless prattle between dim-witted individuals more interested in bragging about their in-game achievements than talking about the actual article’s contents. I can’t believe how lazy the mods around here must be to allow this kind of junk to pile up across their websites. As far as I’m concerned, having this site be quiet is a good thing, it means fewer children are clogging it up with inane babble. Sad, considering how well-run this site was in its prime.
I will agree that sometimes when people don’t talk about the main subject of the article, it does come across as not respecting the intention of an article, but in my opinion I do find a lot of the side conversations fun to observe and participate in here. I’m fairly new to this website, about 4 months ago I joined, so I don’t have full insight and understanding of what it’s like, but I do find the community in the comments pretty good and very enjoyable for the most part. I understand you have a different perspective about this, and I do respect it.
You can only talk about the subject of an article for so long. Thus a majority of the side-comments will be off topic with respect to the article, but could be on topic with respect to this site in general or the community
That’s true, I mean considering how long these are the main articles till another new one (a span usually about 2-5 days), the discussion about the primary article will die down and turn into other topics with not as much relation to the article
Bruv if this website literally only let you only talk about the article it’d be constant bursts of activity followed by deadness
That’s kinda why the off topic happens, just saying
Discord is also a great place for offtopic commenting. Idk why people avoid it so much.
bad day?
So are we only supposed to talk about how much we hate the game right now? Is that how it works? xD
0/10 WERST GAME EVER NOT ENOUGH WATER
This comment confuses me. People are avoiding it because we aren’t talking about the content of the article therefore it’s quiet, which could indiacate that the contents of the article have already been discussed and therefore there is nothing left to discuss.
Anyway, if you want to discuss the article all you have to do if post a comment with your thoughts and I’m sure people will respond.
Mah belleh’s finally stabilizing from the food poisoning, playing a little minecraft while watching loonatics unleashed
Not studying for exams.
I’m grinding for my team.
Pretty good. Just finished playing Smash with my brother and working on my dex
Im just surfing youtube, watching cry’s FF15 stream and tidus remixes
Being incredibly bored with how safe Overwatch played their first gay/bi character -_-
Wait who was it?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99d075502e190d2f81cbf6ff8a6ffb5621ef87998c78470089c03c25dfb15d3d.jpg
Who is that?
Oh wait thats Tracer isn’t it?
Tracer and her gf
What is so safe about it?
Cute quirky lesbians ™
oh yeah I guess that sorta is stereotypical. Still pretty cool.
also Zarya is totally trans but
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjjaPiPUUAUQal0.jpg
Like I know it’s just a cute joke and I’m all for trans representation but like
That’s how beams tend to be rendered in video games, expecially the white-blue ones 😡
Lol yeah I know. Wouldn’t be surprised if she actually is trans though 😛
“Whoops. Forgot to save before the battle.”
– Morimoto, Heahea City
They know me so well. xD
Was he hard for you?
I just lost, but that’s because I was only carrying one Pokemon that wasn’t level one.
I see. I brought some Full Restores after I lost to hi the first time. It should help out.
Sorry for being annoying, but literally all I need other than Tapus and Necrozma (which I’m working on) is Scizor for my dex. Does anyone have one they can show me? I’ll give it right back, of course.
Does anyone know if Lucario only comes out once during the Poké Finder at Vast Poni Canyon? Because nothing was there and all of a sudden it ran out and I didn’t get a picture of it and it hasn’t come back out and it’s been like 5 minutes :/
I had the same issue on route 8. It really should just be a loop.
Shucks :/
One Route 8 is it the one underneath that Aether place? Cos I had the same issue.
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OImwWKV3jGc
I’m starting to despise this song
Quite an annoying song.
Yeah it’s really not a good theme at all. That’s why I run to the royale avenue. So jazzy~
Bring back this A++++ theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqchUsoTB2w
bleh
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLW1aXLkTg
*clap clap*
What??? You don’t like the Sinnoh bike theme…? It’s really good. I like this one too, of course.
ehhhhhhhh its okay but Unova is better
Hoenn has the best one
Say it again
Hoenn has the best one
Boom, a correct opinion
Unova>Johto>Hoenn>Kalos>Kanto>Sinnoh>Alola(?)
bikes
http://imgur.com/a/hBs8a
Concept art
waifu
http://i.imgur.com/NgezpFu.png
All the trial captains from Akala needed more to do.
Konikoni could’ve been much better I see…
Stars pls? It looks amazing.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/8c/Dream_Revive_Sprite.png
revive this community
TBH it’s not really that dead today
If anyone has any spare battle tree items just laying around, I’d gladly take them off of your hands.
I hate grinding BP. ;_;
Ithsme how’s your hunt going?
That moment when you see somebody steal a joke and you really want to call them out on it but don’t because you don’t want to be mean.
do et
I can’t bring myself to.
Who stole what joke?
The main page of the Pokemon Reddit has a person saying “there’s two types of Pokemon players: those who name their cover legend Nebby, and the heartless monsters.”
I saw that joke on Reddit over a month ago, and here this guy has made the front page for a stolen joke. The fact that it’s so popular bothers me more than anything.
Link it then add ¯_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5jfg0l/there_are_2_types_of_pokemon_players/
¯_(ツ)_/¯
no.. ithsme you idiot XD
Post a comment linking it then add ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t understand. You mean the first time the joke was used? I don’t know where I could find that.
try searching the title maybe
never have i ever heard of passing the opportunity of calling somebody out
never EVER pass up a moment to be a jackass, Jackass
If anyone here has any 4 or 5 IV mudbray or pikipek and wants to trade 4IV electric terrain pichu, 4 IV littens, 4 IV wimpods, or 5 IV mimikyus, you’d be my best friend
I have a 4.5 IV but you don’t want it cuz you know, you only want 4s and 5s.
:I
:I>
i have both!
Do you want any of the above mentioned mons?
I’ll take a Mimikyu and a Wimpod 🙂
Okay, cool. Are we friends?
I’m not sure, maybe? whats your IGN?
Kris
are you online?
No, let me get on real quick
i guess i don’t have you added. My FC is 3995-6834-9421
Okay, I’ll add you. Sidenote: I hate that you have to be at the festival plaza to be connected to the internet/leaving disconnects you
I do too :/
It says we’re already friends!
oh ok! can you initiate the trade? ign is Harrison. just gimme a few seconds to get back on
Sure sure
ok I’m on now
i hope thats the right Mudbray i didn’t realize you can’t check IVs in trade
It’s all good. I’ll check and let you know lol
thanks haha
awesome thank you!
Np! I really appreciate it!
Yeah, they’re 5IV! 😀
sweet 😀
:O
Do you want a breedject lure ball mareanie, or a breedject Cubone, Togepi, Pichu, Minior, or dewpider for a Pikipek? 🙂
sure mareanie!
Thanks! I’ll add you real quick.
Oh, I’m 4785-4857-4656
Already friends
ready?
Yep! I’m Andrew btw.
I’ve sent a request.
Thanks!
Also our characters look very alike. xD
thank you too! and yeah i know!
what are you turd burglars doing
3rd attempt at drawing Lopunny
do you get distracted when you start the pelvic region?
No I just make them too waifuish. And usually its the chest area I get distracted at
i’ve never honestly been a chest man
Aw, really? boobs are great though
i mean they’re great but i’m more of a stomach, thigh and rears man, but whatever to each their own
Just finished reading jojos bazzare adventure part 5. Not going to lie, I didn’t like it. Villain sucked, it’s hook amounted to nothing, it killed off my favorite character from part 3 and the main cast was just kind of boring and died in pretty lame ways. Though part 6 will hopefully be better.
i hear that name ever so often but never bother to look into it, and i will continue to do as such
Honestly you might like it. It’s basically dragon ball for adults. Lots of gore and kind of horrifying ways to die.
Stressing about exams that I should be studying for
another prime example of why i am glad to no longer be in school
Attempting to get a shiny Dhelmise.
i hope they make a spooky episode where Dhelmise strike the school
because one thing i’ve learned, the last thing i want to see is a Dhelmise use Phantom Force from behind and strikes from behind with Anchor Shot, that personally scares me
Sounds good!
just find one hand have it use Phantom Force they do this exact same scenario
Perhaps
When your stupid anchor ain’t red https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4203468f0e580f64e05b0ace0605a2c01ee621b2cd0d1f09684b554804d580a.png
Shiny hunting for dhelmise?
Yup!
Good luck!
Thanks!
I never liked Dhelmise too much but for some reason realizing that its eye is a compass made me like it alot more
wait is Dhelmise pronounced Dell-mize or Hel-mize
I say the former.
this helps me not
Pretty sure the D is not silent
I believe it is a combination of Demise and Helm, so the former.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd7ee2f1f8e7f7ec43915cc309e1718e0f1e65213fe3aa04bd70f894114a976c.png
When you find a shiny Pikipek
I wish.
What time is technically night? I need to know for evolution.
It’s 6pm-6am that is night.
Oh thanks!
YW
past 5:00 in sun I think
No, because it didn’t evolve after 5.
Hey everyone! Group question! What is your first shiny, and which game? Also, write what shiny you’ve always wanted.
Shiny Dialga from an event .-.
Fennekin was my first hunted shiny though. I really want a shiny gardevoir
Oh nice!
First shiny I’ve seen: HGSS, my brother and I found a shiny swinub but turned off the game because we thought it was a glitch.
I’m not counting the red Gyarados.
Coolio!
Sort of, but I’m mad I turned off the game. >.<
Oh lol
As for something I’ve always wanted, that’s definitely Ampharos.
Cleffa in Pearl! I don’t really crave any, but shiny Mudsdale looks pretty awesome
I think in HGSS I ran into a random shiny Ekans? Idk I’ve been hunting for a long time so it’s hard to remember lol.
I think the only one I want right now is Palossand/Sandygast. I have all the shinies I wanted in previous generations because I hunted them.
Wow how many shines did you get? 50, 100, 500?
I haven’t kept track lol, but it’s more than 60. I really only do it when I have time, which isn’t very often.
I’m not sure, I think it was in Silver and was a Bellsprout. I really can’t remember tbh. The first I actually remember was a Wurmple in Sapphire, my battery died before I could catch it orz .
Always wanted? I have quite a few, I guess Shiny Mew.
Oh nice!
Gyrados. Lol
Is it better to have Drampa know Extrasensory or Hyper Voice? It’s for VGC and all its other moves can only hit one target
Have Drampa know Dragon Breath
Hyper Voice gets STAB and hits pass subs. It can be blocked by Soundproof but only really Kommo-O is likely to have that. If you need the Psychic coverage then idk, up to you.
I forgot about it passing subs! And i don’t need the Psychic coverage so Hyper Voice it is