Easily one of the best entries in the series, if not, arguably the best, Pokémon Sun & Moon has taken players by storm. And with only a month since its initial release it’s already broken sale records and danced its way into our hearts – but no game is perfect. Here are some things we didn’t like about our adventure through Alola.
The Rotom Pokedéx
Revealed as one of the first huge, new features of Gen VII in the early days of Sun & Moon’s prerelease the Rotom ‘Dex promised to give personality and new features to the age old Pokedéx. Instead we got an annoying, forgettable talking bottom screen whose dialogue was never really welcome or something we looked forward to. In terms of new features, it did give us useful pin point directions through the main story line and the Poké Finder (more on that later), but once you became the Champion Rotom didn’t serve any use other than giving very meaningless, repetitive commentary as your completed the Alola ‘Dex. And it’s completely baffling that they never made this new Rotom Form catchable and useable in battle. Overall, the Rotom Pokedéx was a fantastic idea to breathe life into such an old, unchanged device in the game, but its personality is much more suited for the anime where it’s a fully realized character, and for merchandise where it can remain as a mute, cute ‘mon to look at.
New Pokémon’s Low Encounter Rates
Pokémon Sun & Moon have some of the lowest and most exclusive encounter rates and locations for any Pokémon games released so far – being as low as 1% and 10% in only one place in some cases. For hardcore players, such as most of the people reading this, these low encounter rates are a welcome challenge and make completing the Pokedéx a little more fun and worthwhile. But for a lot of casual, younger players, its very, very easy to make it through the whole game without encountering a lot of Pokémon in the wild – even if you put in the effort to go and look for them specifically. Even though the Pokedéx is specific to what patch of grass you can find them in, it does not specify some special conditions, the inclusion of SOS Battles and other new encounter methods – making it hard not to rely on third party Pokedéxes to catch ‘em all. I can’t be the only one who spent a good hour just trying to find a Mimikyu, right?
Protagonists Being Numb to Everything
Chock full of several twists and turns, Sun & Moon had one of the best plot lines in the 20 years of the franchise. Encountering Ultra Beasts, meeting characters from games past, dealing with the Aether Foundation; as the story progressed we were left with face cracks of the centuries with each step we took into Alola – so why didn’t our in-game avatar react the same way? With very, very few exceptions the protagonist had the same aloof smile while everything was happening – no matter how sad, how dire, and how intense the situation was – Despite other characters around us having plenty of emotion and proper reactions. And, honestly, it was hard at times to focus on what was happening and to take things seriously when we had such a goofy, empty smile all the while. With Gen VII giving the most personal customization yet, even down to being able to choose the style in which you throw your Pokéball, it comes as a shock that Game Freak didn’t give our protagonist the ability to react to situations accordingly. Yes, Pokémon is famous for having a silent protagonist, but Red’s emotionless reaction to everything reads a bit better than an empty smile.
The Poké Finder
Another feature hyped for during the pre-release of Sun & Moon, the Poke Finder was marketed as one of the new aspects that came with the Rotom Pokedéx, and much like the Rotom ‘Dex it failed to dazzle fans. What most hoped would be a love letter to Pokémon Snap, turned into a very shallow, rather useless feature of the game. With the Poke Finder only working in a select few, pre-determined spots, the Pokémon and their poses being limited and repetitive, and no way to share the photos with other players, this in-game feature seems pretty useless. The only reason we’re still even bothering with it is to get that stamp on our trainer passport – and believe us, we’re just as unhappy with the amount of time we need to pour into it just to get it. All things considered, the Poké Finder was another great idea, but a poorly executed one.
General Lack of 3D and Touch Screen Use
Despite being on the Nintendo 3DS, 3D was completely removed in-game other than when firing up the Poke Finder (ironically, paired with its gyroscope capabilities, it’s quite possibly the worst place to enable 3D). Although several complaints about 3D causing slow down during battles specifically arose in Generation VI, and it never truly being well implemented in previous generations overall; its surprising 3D wasn’t utilized during important cut scenes at the very least. And, honestly, it’s a bit disappointing that Game Freak didn’t try to improve upon it, and instead decided to just remove the feature all together. One of the coolest features the 3DS has to offer is the 3D slider being so accessible and easy to use – letting you decide whether or not you want to enable the 3D. Some people don’t like it, some do, but just having the option is nice. And on a somewhat related note, Sun & Moon is a game that can almost completely be played using the top screen. Rarely is the bottom screen used and completely necessary…but perhaps that was intentional? Despite being a gorgeous game that pushed the system to the limits, Game Freak didn’t make the best use of the two defining factors and selling points of the 3DS.
Removal of Amazing Features From Past Generations
Sun & Moon took several leaps and bounds forward, but in the process of adding new features and expanding upon older ones, it seems like we’ve taken a step backwards in some areas. Horde Battles, although not a huge loss, was a fun and new battle style that provided a new challenge as well as an easier way to manually EV train and hunt shinies: however once entering Alola we found it completely removed. Moreover, the convenience of the DexNav, the PSS and Super Training is completely null and void now. Gone are the days of being able to easily tell if you’ve caught all Pokémon in the area with one glance – now you have to search the Pokedéx entry by entry to see if you caught ‘em all. Gone are the days of centralized EV training with Super Training – now you have to use in game currency across several different platforms to make your ‘mons the best. And gone are the days of being able to battle, trade and connect with other players with a single touch in the PSS, now we have to traverse through the awkward and troublesome Festival Plaza. And although the end result of all these axed features are still available by other means, how we went from everything being so seamless and convenient to clunky and complicated is beyond us.
No Side Quest Tracker
Despite being a staple in most RPGs, our quest through Alola really marked the first time in Pokémon where several NPCs gave us little side quests that spawned rewards if completed. A lot of these quests were as simple as catching a Pokémon and showing it to the NPC, and the money reward was definitely worthwhile, but as we traversed through the story some quests were left incomplete for a number of reasons. Now well into the post game, I have a desire to complete all the in-game trades and Pokedéx quests, but with no formal tracker I’ve forgotten where all these NPCs are, and what the actual quest was – once again making us rely on third party information hubs to figure it all out.
Despite these faults, Pokémon Sun & Moon’s wondrous region, story, characters, Pokémon and new features seem to completely eclipse any negative thoughts we may have about the latest entry in the series. What are some things that you found you didn’t like about Pokémon Sun & Moon and hope to see in the rumored Pokémon Stars?











https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGYFNbQdfj4
Watchog running is actually hilarious
And cubchoo is so cute, and Tini
And I love chandy and Eel
Joltik though <3
I forgot how awesome gen 5 mons are… and how annoying this song is
Hey, I forgot, how does breeding Minior colors work?
The offspring always has the same color as the parent.
DAMNIT
I named my Pallosand Dunesday
Best Pallosand nickname i’ve see so far
Thanks!
That’s perf. I named mine pitfall
Thanks!
Pitfall is cool
Sandoom
By daroonde
XD
Sandghastle
Tho seriously, do ya think it was a good name? :3
Oh yeah, it’s amazing. I’m just continuing my quest to topple your throne of nicknaming. I suck at it in reality though.
I thought of a pretty funny toxapex nickname through.
Thorn Star
I know, the joke is pretty crude, but you kill 3 birds with one stone. You get the thorn aspect, the star aspect, and the “suggestive” aspect in one nickname. xD
Welp XD
Sandghastle was pretty nice
Thanks. :3
I’m so in uncreative usually, so when I come up with something (even if it was trash) then I have to share lol
I’ll help sometime!
Hawaiian punch is great for Kommo-o but doesn’t fit
Ooh, that’s good! You’re so clever with these!
Thanks!!
So mad it it’s thirteen letters XD
I almost suggested fruit punch but it doesn’t make as much sense.
That’s good for Breloom
😮
Hadn’t thought about that, mine is called “Dr. Toadley”. xD
XD Shiinotic
Basically I’m one pokemon off every time. xD
XD tru
The Morimoto battle helps out with leveling everyone else so much better as opposed to leveling up near the Battle Tree
Thanks for the tip!
Yeah! One thing I should warn you is the battle is hard, so bring someone with full affection in Refresh and over level 70
So I just had an idea for a Water type
I want to make a literal Sea Cow, a large blubbery marine mammal with Holstein patterns and an actual cow’s head and snout
Either a Pure Water type or maybe Water/Normal
Manatein (work in progress)
Water/Normal
The Sea Cow Pkm
Thick Fat/Simple HA: Defeatist
A extremely large and docile Marine Pokemon, with a light teal and dark turquoise patterned body, a long flat tail and paddle like flippers adorn with small hoof like nails, a long bovine head with a bulbous snout with lazy half asleep eyes, tiny nub horns and small furry ears
“These gentle Pokemon only eat and sleep in warm oceans, because they’re so docile they’re oftentargeted by predators or hunted earning them regional protection laws as an endangered species
HP 200
Atk 40
Def 80
Sp Atk 70
Sp Def 110
Speed 20
Awww! I want one
Ooooo what about Muunatee or Moonatee
The first is perfect
Sample moveset
Splash
Echoed Voice
Water Sport
Water Gun
Block
Fake Tears
Take Down
Curse
Rest
Snore
Sleep Talk
Brine
Amnesia
Milk Drink
Hydro Pump
https://rryann.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/stakes-ryan-sea-cow.jpg
A wild Moonatee appeared
Perf
I never knew I needed this
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Lol Mabel is just a mush….
My region is scarce on dragons, making a lot of fire, grass, water, ice, bug, poison, and ground.
There also isn’t too many ghosts or fairies but I’ll be boosting those numbers a bit later, but not too much
Probably some steel later in too
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the anti-white, anti-male agenda it pushes along with other subversive elements.
Forget it man. These people are too deep in denial to realize what’s going on.
Why is it that everyone is drinking from Game Freak’s Kool-Aid?
Omg that’s the first time I’ve ever heard anyone use the “drink the kool-aid” expression except me lol
Just fuck off
Lol when you make multiple troll accounts to make it seem like people agree with you
“If someone agrees with someone, they must be trolls with fake accounts!”
Or you’re just stupid and naive.
The delusion is real though. I’m getting worried about his mental health.
It’s just so sad. The saddest part is that they’re not even good at trolling.
So by that logic, there’s nothing but fake accounts seeing as everyone has the same opinion.
Lol when a troll tries to use logic
tfw alola’s “anti white sentimentalism” is actually about natives defending their home from a psycho foreigner who wants to release magical creatures from another dimension upon their home
does anyone wanna battle? FC is 0705 7172 1769
Legitimate question: Is this guy just using many different IPs, or have we seriously just not banned him yet?
Probably the former.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. Or the mods are just huge slackers.
#ithsmeformodMaybe its an organization, every member has a different IP
A hive mind
one of us one of us
Well thank god we have this organization to…. call…Pokemon..racist….
Yeah…. really doing us all a public service there /s
Really*
It’s basically an evil team?!?!
I wouldn’t call it evil, more just pathetic
So basically a Pokemon evil team
They are probably more on the level of anime team rocket than anything else. Because all of the other evil teams actually did stuff. Like repairing an ancient weapon of mass destruction or dropping alien monsters into our world but this evil team is just delusional and is giving us all a “public service” about how Pokemon is racist when they most likely have never played a Pokemon game in their life
Or BW1 team plasma. That was a “public service”.
Oh yeah. Does that mean Ziggy was a young lad who could speak to animals and was found in the woodsand raised by an abusive green haired father who only showed him the evil in the world to shape him into an adult who only sees the bad and has to validate himself with a dragon?
Woah. That got really deep
Suddenly it’s all too clear
Ziggy… Listen… Pokemon… And people… We only progress if we work together
This makes more sense than it should
I’m thinking he just hasn’t been banned yet
I remember ShinyXatu banned him like a week or two ago then he popped back up a few days later
That could be the case but he’s been here for weeks.
They were on the IP ban list before but I think this is a new IP. Just ignore and move on, folks, one of us will clean it up…
Gotcha. Thanks!
Whom are we speaking of?
Scroll a little down
Wyv.s? Don’t want to say full name of person
I just thought it would be more convenient.
It’s ZigguFartdust.
Oh that *mockingly saying*
“Anti-White sentimentalist” he’s just a basta*d
Yeah….
Hopefully this situation can settle down.
I’m goona give him a medal next time he spews his BS. Its goona say
“congrats for being racist doing the world proud”
He’s in Kahoots with Trump!
KAHOOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnnIpF99ok4
Oh lord it’s Kahoot!
YEEEESSS XD
I was being satirical lol
Sorry I just saw a word a certain someone a while back said and I blamed someone for it I’m sorrry
I wish seasons would come back. Like I guess Alola isn’t the best place to do that, but it’s just a really neat feature
Sinnoh would be cool with seasons.
Yeah but I kinda like how snowy it is and I want to keep that 😛
Not everywhere, just mostly east and west of coronet.
Oh, it’s the right place, Akala for example
Need a game based on the UK with seasons but it’s raining all the time.
On every route
A certain somebody will appreciate that Komala is a PERMANENT member of my competitive team.
Who might this person be?
Photobomb east govnah?
Weren’t you the one who loved Komala?
Yup! ^_^
What’s the nickname?
Please don’t be better than mine please don’t be better than mine please don’t be better than mine
Please don’t be better . . .
Mine are (I have two in my box)
Nappy Time- Male
Sleep Beauty- Female (Sleeping Beauty reference)
Name her Aurora because thats her actual name and it fits
I’m still currently thinking but it’s named Me AF rn
My female one is called “Remi”, because REM sleep.
I love it :3
Thanks! 😀
I bet you’ll come up with something better anyway, but it fits for mine.
:3
I will SOMEDAY
I’m probably not that somebody but I’m excited!
Love it I really want to use one
😀
It’s support potential is AMAZING
Why is Sun the most neglected overworld weather? We’ve had rainy, sandy and snowy routes but never had a sunny route. The only time we see Sun in the overworld is when you awaken Groudon…
… It’s literally always sunny… Except when it’s night
Thats normal daylight.
Not actually Sunny with an overworld effect and sunny in battles….Like we have with the other weathers.
Sometimes it’s sunny rather than sandy in the desert.
It is? I haven’t noticed.
I didn’t really notice on my own until I was looking up how to find Castform. It’ll show up in the desert in the Sunny Day weather, but not the Sandstorm weather.
According to this, harsh sunlight is during the day and sandstorm is at night: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Haina_Desert
Probably because the only place to put it would be a desert, but those are already being occupied by Sandstorm.
They should alternate.
Occasional Sandstorm, occasionally calm and sunny.
And sun can be in the overworld on beaches too, and some routes in Alola could have had harsh sunlight.
You could put it in a beach, that could fit very well
The desert on Ula Ula has harsh sunlight I’m pretty sure.
I haven’t noticed this.
Maybe something to do with it not being a compulsory area in the game other than to catch Bulu.
Running an OU team with no Tapu’s and only one UB and it beats teams with Multiple consistently. ARE YOU PROUD EARTHEN?!
You’re using a UB. Earthen would be livid right now.
Shame on you
It’s not a canerous one though
Unless it’s Guzzlord, you’re wrong.
Nihilego, it’s not that bad
Boooo….
Xurkitree all the way.
I do use Salazzle instead of Nihilego sometimes
Is it Kartana?
Nope, that thing is straight cancerous
🙁
That’s my favorite.
Oh wait, I know you, it’s Nihilego.
Yep XD
What set are you using?
Specs
Is it good?
Very
nihilego is good tho also nothing wrong with using pokemon that are good :u
And it isn’t too broken
none are them are broken really, kartana is literally like paper, celesteela has no reliable recovery, pheramosa dies to anything, xurkitree is slow and is weak defensively, buzzwole has barely any spc def and is slow
Celest has leech
The rest I can agree with
leech seed is easily dealt with tho, when mega venu comes it will be an absolute counter to celes.
alolan marowak counters tapu bulu and koko
primarina walls tapu fini like crazy
celesteela shits on tapu lele with heavy slam
none of the legends are really broken tbh. People who say UB’s are op are silly because they’re either really fragile or lack speed
True, it’s just that SOME really need to be dealt with
And once people learn my secret Phero counter…
phero gets shat on by so many pokemon though; aegislash, toxapex, skarmory, celesteela etc etc
But this one works REALLY good :3
anything that’s water,ghost or poison walls phero hard oh and priority mons
also 10% zygarde is so fun to use
252 speed 252 attack jolly with choice band
thousand arrows, facade, extremespeed, outrage
This one is a fairy ;3
mimikyu probably, mimikyu can deal with phero quite well.
Nope, it’s a forgettable mon
clefable or wigglytuff? lol
It’s in 7th gen :3
if it’s shiinotic of comfey, they aren’t forgotten they’re used alot in VGC
Comfey’s the one, and I mean in singles
comfey is used in singles too but gets more synergy in doubles due to priority heal
Ah
Welp it counter phero
The only one I would say is broken is Pheromosa, despite it dying to everything, getting in a hit outside of Priority is fairly difficult especially late game.
The rest are all fairly manageable. I guess Pheromosa is too but you need very specific counters to it.
Eh, I guess the only time I would ever use UBs is in the battle tree, so I guess it’s fine that you just insulted my favorite one..z
It’s a little frustrating to fight
I have no UBs and no Legendaries, and I’ve conquered many teams with nothing but them. 😛
I do that too, but I just like Nihilego more than Salazzle
I have to admit something…
I got destroyed by an Alolan Golem in my first Battle Spot battle this gen.
autotomize?
I don’t think so, but I was using Slow Pokemon and I missed an attack that would have taken it out. It was Galvanise and it exploded on my final Pokemon 🙁
._.
SpectralSeraph! I need an Araquanid nickname, stat!
That’s the only thing left on my team to name.
Bubble Buddy, that’s what I use
Well I wouldn’t steal what you’re using. xD
XD
Good eh?
Wait…was this just another chance to brag?!
But yeah it’s great, as always. xD
XD nope! I can help with this probably
Do the thinking for me, let me know if you come up with anything. 😛
Okay!
name it mr.bubble
Name him Surskit Dominator.
If had one i would call it Blasespinne… but is a little weird :/
I have terrible nicknames, I just call things stuff like sandy boy (sandyghast) and WhereIsSheNow(marowak)
Tide Creeper
asparagus
Is it a girl? If so, go with Bell (Or Belle). I believe it’s based on the diving Bell spider.
Mine is male and it’s called Snorkel. But that name is weird and I want to change it. Araquanid is pretty tough to name.
Actually you should do Aquaraqnid because that’s what you thought it was called before XD
Uhgg I haven’t caught Necrozma but I need Spinda >.<
What nature should I go for?
for necro?
yep
depends what you wanna do, modest/timid for specs necro or bold/calm for hazard set up necro
Oh well I found Spinda first so I’ll wait 😀
Well I think so far my competitive team shall be
Alolan Golem
Goodra
Minior
Comfey
Togedemaru
Weavile
your team falls heavily to celesteela and tapu fini
alolan marowak also dents in a few of your mons pretty hard also
Yeah yet I probably will change it except Weavile it’s my favorite Pokémon and it’s not leaving me this time
Almost done with Melemele! just need
Slowking, Persian, Arcanine(I can get this one), Drifloon, Crobat, Braviary, Cottonee, Whimmsiott, Whiscash, Shelgon, and Salamence
Guys I just realized the next episode Lillie gets her Vulpix!
I swear these episodes better pick up with main cast captures
Nothing brightens up my day better then going to serebii and seeing updated character biographies
Still waiting for Ash to get a Crabrawler and at least some general updates for his classmates because one thing I truly hated about the Series XY/Z was the lack of non ash catches
I need a better name for my literal Sea Cow Fakemon
I’ve boiled it down to
Moonatee (Moo and Manatee)
Manatein (Manatee and Holstein (a type of cow))
I like moonatee but is sounds like moon instead of mooing like the sound
I really wanna test my team out, anyone fancy a battle?
I really really want to, but my team isn’t fully ready. All I need is leveling and items.
Oh my gosh…. Wyvern?
You’re back!
yeeeeeeet
Everyone comes back at some point…. Just never at the same time….
i never left lol, i’ve been on the discord group
Oh. Well I should go on Discord then.
discord is where the lit people are tbh
;~;
Rip me