Easily one of the best entries in the series, if not, arguably the best, Pokémon Sun & Moon has taken players by storm. And with only a month since its initial release it’s already broken sale records and danced its way into our hearts – but no game is perfect. Here are some things we didn’t like about our adventure through Alola.
The Rotom Pokedéx
Revealed as one of the first huge, new features of Gen VII in the early days of Sun & Moon’s prerelease the Rotom ‘Dex promised to give personality and new features to the age old Pokedéx. Instead we got an annoying, forgettable talking bottom screen whose dialogue was never really welcome or something we looked forward to. In terms of new features, it did give us useful pin point directions through the main story line and the Poké Finder (more on that later), but once you became the Champion Rotom didn’t serve any use other than giving very meaningless, repetitive commentary as your completed the Alola ‘Dex. And it’s completely baffling that they never made this new Rotom Form catchable and useable in battle. Overall, the Rotom Pokedéx was a fantastic idea to breathe life into such an old, unchanged device in the game, but its personality is much more suited for the anime where it’s a fully realized character, and for merchandise where it can remain as a mute, cute ‘mon to look at.
New Pokémon’s Low Encounter Rates
Pokémon Sun & Moon have some of the lowest and most exclusive encounter rates and locations for any Pokémon games released so far – being as low as 1% and 10% in only one place in some cases. For hardcore players, such as most of the people reading this, these low encounter rates are a welcome challenge and make completing the Pokedéx a little more fun and worthwhile. But for a lot of casual, younger players, its very, very easy to make it through the whole game without encountering a lot of Pokémon in the wild – even if you put in the effort to go and look for them specifically. Even though the Pokedéx is specific to what patch of grass you can find them in, it does not specify some special conditions, the inclusion of SOS Battles and other new encounter methods – making it hard not to rely on third party Pokedéxes to catch ‘em all. I can’t be the only one who spent a good hour just trying to find a Mimikyu, right?
Protagonists Being Numb to Everything
Chock full of several twists and turns, Sun & Moon had one of the best plot lines in the 20 years of the franchise. Encountering Ultra Beasts, meeting characters from games past, dealing with the Aether Foundation; as the story progressed we were left with face cracks of the centuries with each step we took into Alola – so why didn’t our in-game avatar react the same way? With very, very few exceptions the protagonist had the same aloof smile while everything was happening – no matter how sad, how dire, and how intense the situation was – Despite other characters around us having plenty of emotion and proper reactions. And, honestly, it was hard at times to focus on what was happening and to take things seriously when we had such a goofy, empty smile all the while. With Gen VII giving the most personal customization yet, even down to being able to choose the style in which you throw your Pokéball, it comes as a shock that Game Freak didn’t give our protagonist the ability to react to situations accordingly. Yes, Pokémon is famous for having a silent protagonist, but Red’s emotionless reaction to everything reads a bit better than an empty smile.
The Poké Finder
Another feature hyped for during the pre-release of Sun & Moon, the Poke Finder was marketed as one of the new aspects that came with the Rotom Pokedéx, and much like the Rotom ‘Dex it failed to dazzle fans. What most hoped would be a love letter to Pokémon Snap, turned into a very shallow, rather useless feature of the game. With the Poke Finder only working in a select few, pre-determined spots, the Pokémon and their poses being limited and repetitive, and no way to share the photos with other players, this in-game feature seems pretty useless. The only reason we’re still even bothering with it is to get that stamp on our trainer passport – and believe us, we’re just as unhappy with the amount of time we need to pour into it just to get it. All things considered, the Poké Finder was another great idea, but a poorly executed one.
General Lack of 3D and Touch Screen Use
Despite being on the Nintendo 3DS, 3D was completely removed in-game other than when firing up the Poke Finder (ironically, paired with its gyroscope capabilities, it’s quite possibly the worst place to enable 3D). Although several complaints about 3D causing slow down during battles specifically arose in Generation VI, and it never truly being well implemented in previous generations overall; its surprising 3D wasn’t utilized during important cut scenes at the very least. And, honestly, it’s a bit disappointing that Game Freak didn’t try to improve upon it, and instead decided to just remove the feature all together. One of the coolest features the 3DS has to offer is the 3D slider being so accessible and easy to use – letting you decide whether or not you want to enable the 3D. Some people don’t like it, some do, but just having the option is nice. And on a somewhat related note, Sun & Moon is a game that can almost completely be played using the top screen. Rarely is the bottom screen used and completely necessary…but perhaps that was intentional? Despite being a gorgeous game that pushed the system to the limits, Game Freak didn’t make the best use of the two defining factors and selling points of the 3DS.
Removal of Amazing Features From Past Generations
Sun & Moon took several leaps and bounds forward, but in the process of adding new features and expanding upon older ones, it seems like we’ve taken a step backwards in some areas. Horde Battles, although not a huge loss, was a fun and new battle style that provided a new challenge as well as an easier way to manually EV train and hunt shinies: however once entering Alola we found it completely removed. Moreover, the convenience of the DexNav, the PSS and Super Training is completely null and void now. Gone are the days of being able to easily tell if you’ve caught all Pokémon in the area with one glance – now you have to search the Pokedéx entry by entry to see if you caught ‘em all. Gone are the days of centralized EV training with Super Training – now you have to use in game currency across several different platforms to make your ‘mons the best. And gone are the days of being able to battle, trade and connect with other players with a single touch in the PSS, now we have to traverse through the awkward and troublesome Festival Plaza. And although the end result of all these axed features are still available by other means, how we went from everything being so seamless and convenient to clunky and complicated is beyond us.
No Side Quest Tracker
Despite being a staple in most RPGs, our quest through Alola really marked the first time in Pokémon where several NPCs gave us little side quests that spawned rewards if completed. A lot of these quests were as simple as catching a Pokémon and showing it to the NPC, and the money reward was definitely worthwhile, but as we traversed through the story some quests were left incomplete for a number of reasons. Now well into the post game, I have a desire to complete all the in-game trades and Pokedéx quests, but with no formal tracker I’ve forgotten where all these NPCs are, and what the actual quest was – once again making us rely on third party information hubs to figure it all out.
Despite these faults, Pokémon Sun & Moon’s wondrous region, story, characters, Pokémon and new features seem to completely eclipse any negative thoughts we may have about the latest entry in the series. What are some things that you found you didn’t like about Pokémon Sun & Moon and hope to see in the rumored Pokémon Stars?











Can anyone help me evolve my boldore? I would greatly appreciate it.
I could
Huzzah. Thanks so much 1934-1146-1784
0173-1523-2707
Kris
Im coming online
My IGN is Zuri btw
I am online, but I see you not
What’s your IGN
Should be kris
Oh, I see you. It says you’re not online
Im already requesting the trade 🙂
Trading back with an everstone >:)
Wait, jk, It says we’re not friends. I probably have to update my friend list
aaaaaaa competitive whyy. Lol I’ve always had this problem of wanting to use my favorites and competitive viable ugly mons
Just use what you like. you will have much more fun. It’s what I do (I dislike so little pokemon though, so that helps)
Luckily a lot of my favorites ended up synergizing well
My friend, Tis one of the cruelest aspects of Competitive
You can’t use favorites unless can survive
Overused sets and copy paste teams
Cutthroat gameplay
Only perfect Pokemon survive
Or just get lucky and have a lot of your mons work … a lot of mine did ..
(Muttering about Pallosand)
BS. I slayed opponents with my favorites last gen, because no one prepares for them.
What were your favorites?
my team was vivillon, mienshao, altaria, milotic, arcanine, and serperior. I sometimes swapped a member for cincinno on occasion.
i mean, i think your problem is that you want to use all your favs in just one team and honestly that is hard to achieve. Just use one or two and then build a team around them
Wait for UU…
But then if Lopunnite is back, it’ll be in OU again, so…
i’d say try pelliper, acess to drizzle and tailwind should really help primarina out.
Ugggghhhh Peliper is gross though
Peliper is so derpy
Ex you ready? My patience grows thin and your head is fat
umm my head is normal sized, thankyouverymuch.
YOU DARE MOCK THE SON OF A WARLORD?
I read this as son of a wailord
T_T well can’t get that image out of my brain…
It’s magical
The only time I want to think of Wailord is in the form of a plump gijinka
Flesh on flesh on flesh
More women to love
welp
I don’t want no stick, that’s why one day I’ll follow this extremely helpful guide
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Make_a_girl_fat
….
Uncylcopedia is my soulmate when it comes for violent misinformed information
Also do you get the reference
um…. yeah, I toallt get the reference… I get the reference like the best of them! (nervous laugh)
Rolf from Ed Edd and Eddy
Okay! Good, I thought so
One thing I hate about FP
They couldn’t make the oncoming trade sound louder
“One thing” of millions right?
No of Sextillion
Ok I’m goona start over. I’m goona build a team around Absol, Ninetales and Primarina
Thoughts?
Assuming you’re into Absolite, this looks like a decent prebank OU team: Absol, Ninetales, Primarina, Metagross/Skarmory/Celesteela, Pheromosa/Nihilego/A. Marowak, Tapu Koko/Lele
What sets would be good for Lele and A.Marowak?
Lele: max speed/spA – Psychic, Moonblast, HP Ice/Ground, Shadow Ball/Energy Ball
item – scarf, Psychicium-Z or Fairium-Z
Fire instead of Ice H. HP ice doesnt benefit it While Fire protects against steels like scizor
Good point!
Alolawak: max HP/attack – EQ, Shadow Bone, Flare Blitz, Stone Edge/Brick Break/Protect/Swords Dance
item: Leftovers, Thick Club, Assault Vest, Firium-Z, Ghostium-Z
I actually Recommend Thick Club. It doubles Marowaks Attack Stat
Oh? I thought that only worked on the normal wak. 😀
Oh wow. I may actually swap Silvally for this.
absol as a physical mega
ninetales as a special wall
and primarina as a bulky spAtt
ninetales is weak to alot so i would add skarmory to balance weakness
is always good to have a ground type
and lastly look for a mon that is just there for status moves
So Skar, Silvally? Parting shot is supposedly pretty good?
yeah
You’re goona kill me but Magearna
HeartSwap
Fleur Cannon
ThunderWave
PainSplit
HeartStamp has no actual benefit on Magearna. Thunderwave is ok but I wouldnt use it, same with pain split
I’ve actually had slot of success with this set. Fleur Cannon then Heart Swap the drop on the opponent or steal the opponents set up
is too gimicky and the pokemon switching to receive a fleur cannon doesnt care about the drops. they are there for one reason, too eat the fleur cannon up and pressure you to switch
no. thats 3 faries lol. Heart Swap is too situational same with Pain Split
Why must my love for fairies hinder me so XD
Guess I’m still looking for a status mon then
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the fact that Wailord is the only non lion Pokémon to get noble roar?
Gotta attract those Skitty’s somehow.
XD
I wanna use one competively so bad
I don’t know how good it is, last time I used Wailord was gen 3.
It’s absolute trash
A shame, I’d call mine Laboon. I actually do have a non-comp one called that which I only really used to get an egg move.
I’d name it Mobey of course
Huh
I think Kommo-O gets Noble Roar btw.
….Oh yeah
like lurantis:p
And Wishiwashi ;~;
Could you imagine Mass Wondertrading
I want this so bad
I can imagine someone accidentally trading 1 of their wanted ‘mon in a group of unwanted ones. I guess if you have a WT box it’d be good.
finally beat ffxv the other day… it was super disappointing.
Why? FFVII remastered is soon isn’t it (might already be out, I don’t own a PS4).
theres a huge pacing problem later in the game. without spoilers, there’s 14 chapters. I spent 30 hours of gameplay doing sidequests in chapters 1-3. the rest of the game was beaten in about 8 hours, and they skipped really important character development plot pieces because they want to make money by making them dlc. the game is great until chapter 5 ends, then its just a mess from there.
I’m not a fan of DLC in general.
I wouldn’t mind nearly as much if it wasn’t a super important story detail that is necessary to the plot.
Ugh, it must feel really incomplete. I am just about OK with DLC characters and skins and maybe extra story/levels later, that ADD to it, not that should’ve been there from the start.
yes. it feels sooooooooo rushed and incomplete.
You mean FFVII remastered will take forever…
it really bugs me that ffvii remake is episodic. I’m still hopeful however. vii wasn’t even close to my favorite but it is a good game.
One episode per disc, I guess?
I heard it was meant to be soon. I guess not then…
Well, Kingdom Hearts 3 ain’t even out… or with a release date…
I wished I could explore the “World of Ruin”…
such a missed opportunity. if they had set deamon encounters, a long trek back to hammerhead to see the shocked and ecstatic faces of your friends after 10 long years (also, why cut out the time skip?!? let us see the world fall into ruin and how everyone deals with it!) would have been a lot more meaningful!
When do you start finding HAs in chains?
Some people reported as early as 15, but in my bad luck I usually get them at 30 up… I guess that’s when they’re more common.
earliest I’ve gotten is Igglybuff at 16
Help me I have that cooking song from lazy town stuck in my head the memes have infected my brain
Quick listen to this
https://youtu.be/LJOTBSE_3Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM
Omg yes
I saw the film again on Sunday. I stayed for the after credits scene this time, it was funny.
Ok screw this chaining biz anyone have a Justified Absol?
If you can wait until January I can get you one in a Moon Ball…
do you really think absol is going to survive a supereffective fighitng move?
It’s dark moves for Justified
ah bye
No worries!
Lol. Yeah I really need Justified over super luck so I can get that attack boost on switch in
Hmmmmm, but I wouldn’t recommend it
Better than Super Luck or Pressure since it’s going to mega evolve
“since its going to mega evolve” then dont waste your time on the regular ability, absol is the type of mega you evolve asap
Or run low tier with Super Luck
um, yeah no absol aint someone you want to switch, he would still get a good chunk of health even from NVE moves. Also if this is mega absolm you shouldnt worry about ability
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Buttplugs are plugs for the anus
Boom, did I throw you off guard?
yes
OK
Woah
What?
I mean you’re goona bring up butt plugs putts nowhere
It was to throw you off guard, it’s how we do it here in the Czech Republic
Reminds me of this extremely vulgar Pokemon parody I made once
It was called “Saposomons” as in suppository… Can’t believe only 12 and already I was ruined
Well, I have extras in ORAS… and January is coming…
I thought it was February
Dunno. Delayed maybe?
Pretty sure it’s jan
alrighty then my friends. it was nice finally being able to get back on here. I hope disqus loads again next time. see you!
I should start burying landmines
Bye 🙂
Has ability odds changed while breeding? Like if my male has the desired ability does it still not matter? I think in gen 6 it was like 60% to have the mother’s ability or something? Is it the same?
Only the mothers counts unless with Ditto, don’t think it has changed, And it was meant to be 80% iirc.
Butts
Im listening
http://butt.holdings/fionna-butts.gif
If it’s male + ditto, there is HA passing but at a lower chance.
Yeah, I was meaning 80% chance the female would pass. I think it may be as low as 50% for Male+Ditto.
https://youtu.be/SGYmf5xo9ZM Why is this so freaking catchy
How do I get my 50 BP from the Battle of Alola?
Wait until it’s announced, you’ll probably get a code on your GL account. At least that’s how Pokemon as prizes worked last gen.
I just realized why we might not get the rest of the mega stones. We have the Soul Dew
??
They removed the soul dew since we had mega lati@s
Didn’t we have both in oras?
No
Hmm
The soul dew is in ORAS
And the Kanto starter Mega Stones…though Red gives them
Sorry for non-Pokemon related but anyone know where I can watch Subbed Kinnikuman Nissei? I feel a need to watch it, if not I guess I’ll watch the 4kids dub (ew).
KissAnime maybe?
They only seem to have the dub. I wouldn’t mind the dub had they not changed and cut things like 4kids always do. It needs re-doing by Funimation or somone who cares about the source material.
Alright it’s past midnight and I gotta wrap it up
You gotta do the cooking by the book
Any other Mega Man fans? I’m playing through the first game for the first time in years right now and FFFFfffff Ice Man stage. It’s the worst -_-
Makes you wish you had Rush Jet…
No kidding. The rest of the game has been pretty easy for me so far (relatively speaking) but the last section of that level sucks so much.
I’ve only played Mega Man 2 and loved it
Mega Man 2 is fantastic. If you like that, I’d recommend playing 1-6 and X. That is, if you’re prepared for LOTS of swearing at your screen…
So quick thing I wanted to say since we were talking about Wailords. Isn’t Guzzlord just Wailord except its a Dark/Dragon type and with a little bit higher HP stat? Because it has the same stat spread all around.
Nope Guzzlord is trash
It always and forever will be one-shot by Moonblast
And any fairy move
Probably not fairy wind…
Don’t write it off
Everyone seems to be underestimating Guzzlord’s bulk. :p
Well in heading back to meme hell so I’ll see you all later
https://youtu.be/g-sgw9bPV4A
Kazoo kid is my spirit animal.
Howdy! Hope I get sun for Christmas!
Ask for Moon instead! It has a better box legend (combat wise), more desirable exclusives (Celesteela, Petlil, Oranguru, Drampa vs Ninetales, Midday Lycanroc, Turtonator), and the 12-hour difference stops being a problem later in the game.
But I like the look of Kartana haha naming it Paper Cut. I also want A-line tales.
I saw one for trade on the GTS named “Pizza Cutter”
* A-Ninetales
Gikie you’re back! 😀
Yes I am! Idk why this Sun and Moon scientist has the whites around his hands because the picture I DLd has an all black background.
I’ve had some big changes that happened, but I have time to come back. More often this time of year, but I’ll be on and off throughout the year.
Aaa can’t sleep. Can only think of video games and a game idea involving bubbles
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74a0b359bc9d943bd89afe8c7ac416b2458c0e65e03022d645d9098977b66008.jpg
But….bubbles
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/495691153031a5e2492188b61745e395fd14d77f9cfca26fdb34c66f8ffba7e8.jpg
woah
Is this what happens when your Popplios make bubbles under the influence of drugs?
Farm FC with the newest and latest methods!
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You play competitively, right? Been meaning to give you my Dittos (all with 6ivs except my Japanese timid one – 2ivs).
In case you were wondering, this is Q°, who is Gikie. Don’t know if you remember me haha. I’m not on often, but I should be able to trade Friday, if I’m able to get out of the lab early enough.
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Wow what an amazing deal! Tell me more! Also here, take my credit card information! You need it more than I do.
Nothing more erotic than those those bold arrows
cristina gurl, where the hell did you got a range rover just for 8800 bucks
Currently soft-resetting for a good facility… not gonna go on until I get 5-star lotto, fortune teller or rare kitchen (last one has to be run by a punk, already turned down one hosted by office worker).
How: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFestivalPlaza/comments/5gss0z/guide_to_rnging_which_facility_you_receive_upon/