A stream of Pokémon Sun & Moon (coming next month to the Nintendo 3DS) on Japanese video site NicoNico recently revealed a few small details about the pair of games, which can be found below:
- Shaking grass returns to the games, but its function may differ and there’s a new animation of the wild Pokémon jumping out
- The number of Trials has been confirmed as seven
- Ilima’s trial was previewed and featured the player finding Rattata in a cave, after which they were awarded with a Z Crystal
- Rotom Dex will show you your Pokédex completion percentage after catching a Pokémon
These small tidbits just make me want to play the games more! Not too much longer to wait…
FEATURED DISCUSSION: Preliminary Sun/Moon Teams









Thinking more about it, The five trial captains introduced can be put all the in same age range. This can also confirms the theory of ghost girl because she could fit the same age range. Meaning that the other two are either important NPC or kahunas.
I’d categorize Mudsdale girl in that age group as well, even though I doubt she a Captain.
The Pelipper man seems to be a ordinary NPC (unless he pops up in two locations) I’ve seen him before in a another trailer but i cant remember
I think the Pelipper guy is just a regular NPC (rf)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/988cc7c16bca4b8a046e775bb939ede6a9b1b049f5256c62d6665cf5e6260ac8.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/495deb37270556b587f90fb6710319be7c5cdfb58659a56f0080504b521aa44a.png
Possible, or a ship captain who took you there.
hm seems more like a veteran because the same clothing colors as the woman next to him
Oh ,an Double/Tag Battles returning would be great, that’s not always a certainty
maybe the NPC explains a gameplay element
If I remember right this is near the Big Tree right?
yea
If we go on the idea that it’s based on the World Tree it’s possible it’s related to Zygarde. A Shrine?
It could be post game, he might explain theres something in there, wouldn’t it be cool if it was Xerneas or Yveltal, depending on the version, but only if you have Zygarde with you.
Ok somebody else notice that …..I said that many time but I don’t think it’s regular NPC maybe his wife is not regular too.
That’s what I was saying. I knew we’ve seen him before. He’s just an NPC and likely the Ship Captain.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462462737 @PrinceFae:disqus team is honestly iconic. People really underestimate girafarig
ICONIC lol https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f7c024402f71ab72c314bc5dae24efc7fbf9e0a1437980c10e3a6324e7e37b3.gif
i love fraud and robbery
i still don’t believe that stupid long neck managed to hit so hard
max attack choice band, plus people do not know about sap sipper so i get that extra attack boost
never in a million years I would thought that a girafarig (one of my fav pokemon) would come through on my team,
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462462737
you literally just posted this fight
oops, it didnt copy http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462468805
its one of my favs too, it can be really awesome to use
is an amazing counter to serperior.
There might be trial captains for other types in the post game.
Well, in real life Hawaii does have more than 4 islands, and the file size double X/Yish must mean something right?
A lot of it is probably traceable to the graphics upgrade, but post game islands definitely wouldn’t be completely unfounded imo
But if Masuda says they’ve put a lot of time and effort in the post-game, its not just the graphics update.
A good post game could easily just be on the five islands (four plus Aether Paradise) with a different narrative(s), though
And what about the demo leaks only having maps for four islands?
You said it yourself, it’s possible not everything is there.
True. I’m not anticipating more than two unknown islands.
And then there’s that question of the fifth island.
Gameplay Footage [Part 2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mi-f8J_WLg
These japanese guys are annoying yaaaaaaoooh yaaaa aaaaawww ooooooohhh
To befair I find them more bearable than most the the Americans that commentate their playthroughs of games.
Both are annoying.
Anyone who exaggerates with his reactions is crazy or stupid
Culture difference hun.
Just curious, does anyone know what move Litten learned after Alola Raticate was defeated?
Edited: because autocorrect changed was to aaa for some reason.
Tell me a timepoint and I’ll translate.
Thanks. It was at 23:20, Litten was learning a fire move with 15 pp-at least that is what I think based on the format (4 moves and a fifth move which is a little bit stretched to the left at the bottom).
It’s Fire fang (ほのおのキバ honoo no kiba).
The 4 other moves:
-Ember (ひのこ hinoko)
-Growl (なきごえ nakigoe)
-Lick (したでなめる shita de nameru)
-Leer (にらみつける niramitsukeru)
P.S. being able to read Katakana and Hiragana is really handy 😀
Thanks for the rest, are the moves written in both Katakana and Hiragana?
In this case they’re all hiragana (with the exception of Fire Fang where ‘kiba’ is in katakana), but there are moves written in katakana.
Katakana tends to be easier becuase it’s usually used for moves that are basically just English words.
I hope I will reach this level soon.
This is the book I used to memorise them:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Minute-Japanese-Minutes-Eyewitness-Language/dp/1405315180
There’s a full katakana and hiragana table in the back, as well as a menu and a glossary.
Fire fang …maybe.
To erase any further doubt: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f4e0c282231b74dcff2ae5f82f9e67db35d841777b041b3597bd79e1735a43f.png
certain people will still not believe you, some people are stubborn
Yea I may have came off as one of those people, but I didn’t see the image Libra posted earlier on and was going off of Gamexplain’s demo trailer. I should have scrolled down a bit and caught up with the conversation before giving my input. Nevertheless, thanks for the helpful image.
I didn’t mean you, its all good, I just meant in general, everyone should be at least a little skeptical
Exactly. Even with proof, we’ll always have non-believers.
so you thinks theres more? or just 7 im lost
Its basically been confirmed that its 7, unless their some sort of post game trials.
speaking of Z-moves, to use a z move does the pokemon needs to hold the z-crystal?
Yes. They need to hold it,
bless. I dont think they going to make a huge impact in competitive then.
Yeah. Especially if we find out that they can’t break through protect. At that point their all but useless since using one effectively requires some cleaver mindgames that most players won’t invest in.
I’m 70% convinced the demo leaks don’t cover everything.
-No map of Aether Paradise
-No ‘Pokedex stills’ of alt-forms (except Zygarde)
-Pokedex stills but no models or textures (unless the hackers have been holding out on us)
I just expect post game map and a little left Alolan.
Imagine thinking the dataminers got everything
They’ve had plenty of time to find these things if they’re there, 5 days is a long time 😛
@Evil Cilan:disqus Just reminded me there were also no stats or typings for Pokemon (presumably other than those featured in the game).
So either GF have definately tried to trim stuff out or the hackers haven’t been forthcoming with everything they found.
not to mention in the supposed leaked alola dex there isn’t even enough poison types for Plumeria to have a poison based full team, there are only like 5 lines (not that this really means anything I’m just mad) but like still I expected her to at least get a Scolipede
6 Lines.
1)Zubat Line,
2)Tentacool,
3)Grimer,
4)Ghastly,
5)Trubbish,
6)Salandit.
That’s enough for a full Poison team though limited on Pokemon I admit.
I literally skipped right over trubbish and Tentacool, thanks
GF removed Kalos from the demo
Guys, were the HA abilities for the Kalos starters released with the game or afterwards like Gen 5 and 3???
yes, post game via friend safari
The moment the game was hacked 😀
The Plumeria dream team:
Salandit2
Alolan Muk
Crobat
Scolipede
Dustox
Ariados (although Guzma has one so maybe not)
Replace Ariados with Beedrill maybe
Emphasis on “dream”. We may be past the days where it is possible for an admin to have a full team of 6 Pokémon. I think we might be lucky if Guzma even has 6 Pokémon in the final battle with him (or 5 Pokémon and an Ultra Beast).
Oh yeah deff meant literally a dream team… curious though as to why you think trainers would have Ultra Beasts? I dont think they can really be tamed by anyone or willing to do the bidding of anyone
I find it to be a stretch as well but considering how Guzma is the leader of Team Skull I would expect him to have a strong team. Considering how few new Pokémon there are, there is strong speculation that Kommo-o (the likely pseudo-legendary at this point) is a totem Pokémon, and that Gamefreak might want to give him a unique strong Pokémon. They could always give him an old Pokémon as his main one (like Garchomp) but I feel that would be a bit repitive since that is already Cynthia’s main. My guess is that he may have stolen one of those special Pokeballs that catch Ultra Beasts and then used it to catch one.
I just noticed Slowpoke! It just dawned on me! Slowking!!!! <3
……um what? 😛
😛 Random excitement. I love Slowpoke.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ME TOOO!!!!
😀 Yesssss!
Slowking is also my fav of the two evos I used to be like obsessed with it back in the day but never knew how to get it in pokemon Silver (way back before the internet was popular)
Slowking is tied at 1st for my favorite Pokémon. (Sableye being the other.)
Slowpoke in general is one of my fav non-fairy pokemon. I so wish they would bring back split evolutions they were some of the best, Politoad, slowking, the tyrouge line, clampearl. When they revealed fairy type I was secretly hoping slowpoke would get a fairy branch that was like a manatee like this design here https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/871162ae9028223203fddb06fe5541d97187686e70667207afd7367fd6e39b8e.png
Well, the thing is Slowpoke is theorized to be so intelligent he can’t process it. So losing it’s psychic typing would be kind of disappointing. How about when pokemon adds third types to the game? XD
I don’t want to see the day they add 3 typings, seems like it would be way too confusing
😛 I know, but I feel it’s going to happen one day.
it technically already happened in the manga with the legendary bird trio fusing
Wait… what!? O.o
Nvm it doesn’t specifically say they are triple typing
*Realizes he must read pokemon manga*
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Thu-Fi-Zer
My litten 3 dream stats
95 HP
115 Atk
85 Def
75 Spa
75 Spd
90 Spe
Total 535
HA Sheer Force
Would be my all time favourite pokemon
kinda mediocre Infernape is basically the same stat build
It’s a realistic dream I guess
Try this link torch://player/1477189836455.webm
Not working shady
copy the link.
torch://player/1477189836455.webm Not working :/
Dam, still working for me u don’t have torch browser right?
I’m using my iPhone
Isn’t that a deep-web link?
Unfortunately it looks kinda mixer with good speed ….not that bad though look at these stats. http://is.4chan.org/vp/1477232392097.jpg
That’s only litten, wait till it evolves
Usually evolution not break the pattern.
True, but there is still hope it turns out like the Emboar Tepig Situation he suddenly gained sp atk
Actually I need different fire starter pattern.
You know, I’m really impressed with how GF is handling Trial Captains this generation. For the first time ever, they might actually play a significant role in the plot, since they can be seen meeting the trainer before their initial battle (Mallow, Olivia, Ilima). It also seems that we finally have a villainous team that follows through the entire game, as well as another potential team, Ultra Beasts, the Zygarde quests, the Tapu legendaries and Solgaleo/Lunala… these games are gonna have one hell of a plot.
Story is always what makes or breaks the games tbh
Was going so well until ‘Ultra Beasts’, then I had to take 5 minutes to gently weep. 😛
The possibility of there being “wormholes” and alternate dimensions as a result of these Ultra Beasts might be interesting, kinda like the Distortion World in D/P/Pt. It’ll be interesting to see how they play out.
I dunno, I think that’s going a bit too far into scifi territory. Go too far with that and soon we’ll be having spaghetti timelines and genesis wave style retcons.
Well thanks to OR/AS confirming alternate timelines, which were obvious if you think about it, only way to make everything canon, plus every game card is a seperate universe following the same basic structure.
I feel it’s related to Infinity Energy, remember that, in OR/AS we were told it was powerful enough to blast holes to other dimensions/Universes.
The whole UB thing screams of creatures coming to our world by some mean then been tricked into doing someones bidding while that someone plays innocent.
It wouldn’t have been the only way to make everything cannon. Most things would have fit into a single timeline until ORAS did the whole ‘Meteor not volcano’ thing to Sootopolis.
Not every game is a separate universe, some explicitly state they follow each other, like B2W2 being set a few years after BW.
Think of it like this.
Seperate Universes, that follow the same basic timeline and story with minor to major differences. And that is every Game Card as well as every game.
That way contradictions in later games can just be explained away, and both versions can be Canon.
I’m not sure how to explain it more clearly.
If they’re writing things properly there shouldn’t be any contradictions, they should be able to just explain all the changes to the regions from remakes etc via the passage of time or by things happening concurrently.
The biggest Contradictions would be new types. That’s one thing you can’t explain away properly even with good writing.
But makes sense if you consider it a different universe.
So in some Universes Clefairy is a Normal type, and others, it’s Fairy
I mean you can still explain that too, they probably didn’t know how to define a fairy until then, same with the pokemon that got steel type in generation 2
Even then I was thinking more about type Matchups. Specially when normal types that became fairy used to be weak to fighting but are now super effective against it, that’s not as easily explained, at least a satisfying one
ok but you cant omit the steel types to this, thats my problem people seem to single out the fairy type forgetting it wasn’t the first type to retcon pokemon
It’s the most recent. That’s why I used it as an example. But yes Magnemite and Magneton fits this too.
That’s slightly different, but it’s the only thing that’s really required a retcon. They shouldn’t have waited until Gen6 to add Fairy though tbh
Aside from that pretty much everything else could have been side by side or linear (up until ORAS).
Yeah, I like to think about this alot though. Like 2 versions of the same game certainly aren’t exactly the same, not because of the story, but because of the player and their actions. I think too deeply into things that weren’t meant to be.
Two versions of the same game can be rationalised as the same thing. Details like exclusive Pokemon don’t change the plot, and games like Emerald and Platinum show how two versions can be rationalised into one lore.
I’d say too literally rather than too deeply.
In the end as theres no confirmation 1 way or the other we can think of it how we like tbh.
what if a while after the dataminers started decrypting the demo GF contacted them and instead of cease and desist, they bribed them to cut short the exposition?
I don’t think GF would do bribes they have been pretty intimidating to the leakers in the past
A cease and desist on the other hand would just result in a hundred more hackers working harder than ever as the demo became public
I would have thought they’d reach for a cease and desist order first.
I was kinda hoping that other Gen Pokemon would get Alolan forms. I mean, it’s about celebrating 20 years not just Gen 1. I know the reasons before people tell me, but I feel it’s one big missed opportunity.
For example, Johto Starters, in a Similair way to Kalos had the Kanto Starters. Like, nothing radical just, their types being switched with each other or being given another trio of types that effect each other.
But what’s very sad is Gen 5 didn’t get much Mega Love either, just Audino and even then I feel that’s cause they forgot to give it Fairy normally. So Alolan forms were certainly their chance, though Gen 5 Pokemon seem more thought out tbh, I can’t think of any that would suit a Alolan form tbh.
Honestly Mega audino could have just as easily been an evolution, it looks way better than the original
Most of us had, but by the third or fourth Pokemon it was obvious that’s what they were doing.
I’m not disappointed about megas though, I’m glad they’re abandonning those in favour of Z moves.
I was going to abandon my side project of trying to identify the locations on the map, but the trailer from the demo just proved that there definately is more to that mansion than I thought there would be and I can pinpoint that ranch town so I’m going to be updating my map analysis 😛
Remember in OR/AS Delta Episode we learnt the Infinity Energy could be used to transport things to other Dimensions?
Doesn’t that seem related to UB’s to anyone?
Pretty sure the Infinity Energy backstory isn’t finished with, specially if Z Stones are related too.
illuminati confirmed
Seriously though very clever I would have never thought this
This thought just popped up in my noggin’. How would the move Hidden Power work with Z-moves? Would only the normal one work with it, or would all of the general 18 types of Z-moves?
oh i SWEAR if they let that go i’m boycotting Z-Moves
Isn’t it considered a normal move in its natural state? I feel that it will stay that way, but who knows?
Only Normal, if at all.
Technically it’s a Normal type move capable of doing individually typed damage.
Has anyone brought up the map in the Police Station? It shows five islands, indicating that the small far-west one has some significance at least. I wonder what will be there. Maybe some post-game Battle Frontier or League?
The one at the back of the room?
Yeah. It shows the four main island in green, and the fifth in brown.
Pretty sure that’s not an island, it’s probably a logo.
It’s small, so I could be wrong, but I think it’s the island shown in the official map art. It appears to be accessable at the very least because there is a dock-like protrusion on the official art.
It’s too large for the small islet in the official map.
I’m pretty sure it’s part of the south west island but imgur is currently playing up so I can’t check the images I’ve got stored there.
Imgur decided to work, so I found it.
I was right.
http://i.imgur.com/tKdeAKp.jpg
Could be the Poke Pelago though
That’s the top right, not the bottom left.
We know where the Pokepelago is because of the big sprout from Isle Abeens.
I could wait till december for the S M
But what I dying to know about is base stats, abilities, types, new moves and their powers
I hope we get a base stat boost like XY (Primeape)
Somebody shoot this fool
December? that’s excessively long!!!
I found out that I am more excited for the gen 7 showdown update
….o.k this validates a legal certificate of cold blood murder
the last thing i want is regular competitive just reclaiming its already repetitive uninspired stakes not for at least 2 months
because i rather see people come up with new strategies not just use the same stuff over and over again
Life orb Sheer force, anyone??
that’s barely news
i’m talking about the same 15 things everyone’s been overusing for the last…..2-3 years now
I don’t mind any of that I just want to sweep Uber teams with my Dragon dancing, life orb, sheer force, baton passing teams over and over again but this time using new pokemon x)
so my demo decided it wanted to work properly and start counting down again, not that there are any more rewards or things to do lol.
Today’s event was disappointing.
Disappointing is an understatement.
when she comes back she says the beach was great, like is she the chick that lets you see Alolan dug trio? were we supposed to follow her??
I have no idea! O.o
all of the remaining events are disappointing.
What do you mean? A Pikachu party is the best thing I could ask for.
https://m.popkey.co/e5a4e6/jw4Oo.gif?c=popkey-web&p=popkey&i=happybirthday-events&l=direct&f=.gif
Really? Is there any battles at least?
no, all of them are little scenes that don’t lead to anything. I think the last event gives you a comet shard, but there’s no more gameplay
Ew.
The Oras demo was the same though wasn’t it?
I’m not sure, I didn’t keep up with the ORAS demo after the first event.
If there are items, they aren’t disappointing. If there aren’t items, they are.
Gameplay>a few bucks on the main game
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/178e24271439c28f70ee98851f15ac531c31bba8095859c5153e6716165b108c.gif
It’s a demo, you can’t expect that much gameplay tbh
I agree, I think the events should have been there for lil extras for people who are dedicated to the franchise and follow the demo. But just little scenes of… fluff(?) seems kind of superfluous.
Tbh I get the impression they probably put less effort in this time because too many people complained about the ORAS demo.
I do remember the demo for ORAS being… unremarkable.
I remember the ORAS demo as having great music if nothing else. I see that part carried over to this demo at least.
It let us visit loads of the small islands and I’m pretty sure you could continually battle trainers. There was probably a fair bit of effort that went in to putting it together and Steven had a fair bit of dialogue.
With the backlash, GF probably decided to cut back on the effort in anticipation of yet more people complaining about what was missing instead of appreciating what was there.
Cute little fakemon I found on Reddit
https://i.reddituploads.com/2eb2027876e44adc997104ba2f8c7c7e?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=b0d551e22689fbf30c6c26779d2a6f69
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/58y3r4/pok%C3%A9mon_i_made_on_mii_verse_a_long_time_ago/
Not too bad.
Making the bead necklace say ‘water’ though is a bit excessive.
It loooks like my mom’s evil dog. ?
Tank top based on Lycanroc midnight form. I WANT IT BADLY!! (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4e24114e436e57479d0132a7838510aab19824c76a47b60b701eb2de54bd152.png
What is this from? I haven’t seen it.
Ehm it was on my Twitter TL. Somebody RTed a Japanese account
I’m just hyped over this Gothitelle shirt
http://i.imgur.com/k5vUwDo.png
I’m most excited for the shirt with the Pikachu surfing on a rainbow.
oh wow look at Gothita tee and them girafarig print sneakers #fashion
So many fashion choices it seems. I’m so hyped!
Steal his Look:
Carrera Sunglasses – $250
Pokemon x Fear of God Tank Top – $300
rag and bone Distressed Jeans – $180
Oh my gosh he looks fierce, fresh and ready to fight
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790215814095966211
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790216548866719749
It bugs me to no end that Pikachu says its name. What if your pet walked up to you one day and just screamed “DOG”
Pikachu is cute tho
So is my dog
But can your dog shoot electricity from its cheeks?
Yes.
I’ve met a parrot that can say “I’m a parrot”
…
ok good point
Parrots imitate, don’t they? Say Pikachu is only imitating humans who call it Pikachu. Why then can’t Raichu say its name (or Pikachu for that matter)?
(It did in the anime to be fair.)
For in game rationalisation: Pikachu’s cry was changed later, so it’s plausible they learnt to say their name but when they evolve to Raichu they can’t manipulate their voice box in the same way because they aren’t used to the changes.
That or it just looses that ability upon evolution because of random changes to its voicebox as a result of the evolution. After all, if a Pokemon’s voice box didn’t change after evolution then their cries wouldn’t change either.
In the anime, Raichu says “Lai lai”
It’s ‘rai’, that’s just how the Japanese pronounce their Rs 😛
(And they can say it in full.)
Lol. I was kidding
It’s hard to tell somedays, there are some crazy people out there 😛
I actually would laugh my ass off, not gonna lie that would be amazing
But I don’t like that pikachu does that
It would be weird because my pet’s not a dog.
EXACTLY
Maybe its name came from the sound it makes?
TBH pikachu saying it’s name is one of the rare examples I can tolerate, though I prefer the squeaky version we got in generations. It actually sounds like something an animal-like creature can fathomably say. I’m really happy that pokémon saying their names is something confined to the anime canon though (as confirmed by Masuda in one of those interviews they did recently), because it’s just moronic and cringy, and exactly the sort of thing that makes you understand why people would call pokémon childish. It’s kinda annoying in-game dialogue confusingly expresses pokémon cries as their names, but I guess you can rationalise it as the cries sounding somewhat vaguely similar to the names in-universe.