Pokémon Sun & Moon Details Revealed on NicoNico Stream

A stream of Pokémon Sun & Moon (coming next month to the Nintendo 3DS) on Japanese video site NicoNico recently revealed a few small details about the pair of games, which can be found below:

  • Shaking grass returns to the games, but its function may differ and there’s a new animation of the wild Pokémon jumping out
  • The number of Trials has been confirmed as seven
  • Ilima’s trial was previewed and featured the player finding Rattata in a cave, after which they were awarded with a Z Crystal
  • Rotom Dex will show you your Pokédex completion percentage after catching a Pokémon

These small tidbits just make me want to play the games more! Not too much longer to wait…

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  1. Only seven trials???? what??? :/ colour me unimpressed, that means there is only one left that we don’t know about. (Please be fairy)

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    • it’s just one less than gyms, and they’re probably spread out better than some of the gyms in past games (you basically do gyms 2, 3, and 4 in succession in XY, and it’s not the only game)

      plus, this game will probably have more plot bosses than usual. there’s lots of festival plazas and possibly two villainous teams.

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      • considering there is only 7 trail captains I don’t think we will really get to battle them as the trial, the Kahunas yes, but the trails no, considering Hala’s crabrawler is lv 15 and if you battled all the trail captains on his island before you got to him you would probably be a higher level than that

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    • It’s about quality and not quantity my friend. We could have no trials/gyms and the games could still be amazing. The story shouldn’t be totally dependent on the trials anyway. That’s what happened to gyms and look how boring the formula ended up. I say 7 is fine seeing as the story will likely be about much more than that.

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      • I agree with you after your first sentence, but quality is kind of subjective. And really this wasn’t supposed to be me complaining why arent there more, but more of why did they show us almost all of them before the game came out

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        • Yeah……ok fair enough about them showing the majority of them……I do wish that since there are fewer than people thought there would be they’d have left a bunch of them for us to find in game rather than showing them in pre release…….lol

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  2. Ok so 7 trials, if the theory that you have to learn the z move poses from someone is true then i think it makes sense
    -7 trials
    -4 kahunas
    So this makes 11 moves but where are the rest?
    -Well Guzma and Plumeria were speculated to use the dark and poison z moves so they might teach it to you at some point if correct, adding two more moves bringing the total to 13, we are missing 5
    -Well there is this the speculation that a certain somebody mentioned in the demo is the champion, wont mention the name to avoid spoiling those who dont know, and if there is a champion there has to be an elite 4 wich combined make the 5 that we are missing!
    Haha it might be a bit of a stretch but still possible xD

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    • Just cause there are 18 crystals, doesn’t meant they will all come from Trial captains/Kahunas etc. I mean I’m sure that we’ll get some from other important NPCs out and about – like Lusamine and her team etc

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      • The possibility of this makes me super excited because I’m hoping Plumeria plays a huge part in these games, she’s too awesome

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        • I feel like both Team Skull and the Aether Foundation will, these games look to be heavily story driven as well as all the interviews with the developers involved saying how they want it to be more immersive & look at the connection between humans and Pokemon & nature – sounds like some good character development will happen

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      • Maybe it’s like mega stones. If I recall correctly some random person gives you a Gengarite, so they don’t have to be important to the story.

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        • Valid point however I feel like they’ll try and make Z crystals more important as the whole dance/movement routine comes into play, gotta learn em from somebody, I doubt that protagonist is great at improv

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          • But you’re implying you have to be important to know how to dance. :p
            Some NPC could give you a crystal and say, “I was a trainer back in the day… Here’s something that helped me through my battles, and here’s how you activate it!”

          • Well we’ll find out soon enough I guess! That could be a possibility, but I hope they don’t just hand them out. It should be somin you have to earn as opposed to just finding Mega Stones scattered around the region

    • You think there’s another plot string? Already we have:

      1 – Completing the trials with Hau and Lillie
      2 – Team Skull
      3 – Aether Foundation
      4 – Legendaries and Ultra Beasts, the latter which might tie into one or both above

      We don’t need more plots imo. We just need the ones we have to be good enough. This is already more than most Pokemon games.

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  3. I’m still a little sceptical of trials replacing gyms, The one we played in the demo wasn’t particularly fun imo and 7 seems like a rather small number.
    It’s a shame because every other aspect of this gen looks amazing, here’s hoping we get a real gym challenge post game(doubt it)

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    • The demo trial most likely won’t even be a trial again and it’s probably suffering from ‘shoved in’ and ‘make it easy becuase it’s a demo’ syndrome.

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    • What about about it wasn’t like a gym? It was basically a more interactive version of Gardenia’s gym challenge with the exclusion of trainers.

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    • I feel like the two – it trials (3 if you count the old man’s weird one) were just tasters, and they won’t hold our hand like the one with Jangmo-o/Hakamo-o

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  4. Seven Trials – please be long and interesting enough. Seems like each trial will end with a Totem Battle, which have the potential to be challenging.
    Four Kahuna Battles – they will just be like Gym battles so I’m not expecting much.

    Guess we have to hope for the Team Skull, Aether Foundation and Ultra Beast plot lines to be really good.

    Also I’m hoping they don’t give us another non existent post game

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  5. One thing that did irk me a lil about the demo and when the games come out, is that battles seem to still take a bit too long to start end. I mean I feel myself definitely turning battle animations off as I progress further in the game just to speed things up a little bit

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    • I think I read somewhere that they made battle animations longer
      And looking at the length if a single Z move, I really don’t see myself using them all that much in-game

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      • They’re nice to look at once in a while but they’re not essential for me haha
        I mean I didn’t even use Megas in my runs of Gen VI but at least after you Mega’d the first time, it wouldn’t show it again. Z-moves however, I’m sure I read somewhere that it shows the damn animation every single time. Can’t be dealing with a battle that takes ages to complete haha

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        • Yeh, I rarely used Megas as well in-game. They’re just not needed most of the time and are a waste of time with the animation.

          I actually hate long winded time consuming and repetitive animations. I get annoyed with them and just wanna get on with the game.

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          • Even on emulators on my laptop, animations are off and I speed things 2x faster, helps with grinding for a start, but the thought of doing it at the speed of the demo is gonna kill me haha
            My system or arranging moves helps as I can usually tap the move to use without looking

          • I’m actually the exact same. I have a set location for moves on each Pokemom.
            Top Left – Primary Stab
            Top Right – Secondary Stab
            Bottom Left – Status Move
            Bottom Right – Filler.

            So I can insticintly click without wasting time.

          • I rarely bother with status moves in game. I just arrange in terms of power, with Stab taking precedent, and always try to have 4 moves that aren’t the same type, easy peasy

  6. *Future Pokemon game in the player’s room*
    Oh, it’s a Nintendo Switch that your mom bought you! Would you like to take it on your journey?
    -Yes
    Hmm seems to be stuck, oh well. Time to get going!

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  7. “Rotom Dex will show you your Pokédex completion percentage after catching a Pokémon” – This is good

    “Shaking grass returns to the games, but its function may differ and there’s a new animation of the wild Pokémon jumping out” – This is interesting

    “Ilima’s trial was previewed and featured the player finding Rattata in a cave, after which they were awarded with a Z Crystal” – This sounds boring

    “The number of Trials has been confirmed as seven” – This is really disappointing

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  8. i’m honestly not surprised about the trial things
    they game will probably do an arm and leg’s worth of stuff for the trials
    all i want is a Rockruff to come from Shaking Grass

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  9. Where in the footage was seven Trial Captains confirmed? So far, we know about six Trial Captains:
    Ilima
    Lana
    Mallow
    Sophocles
    Kiawe
    That Ghost Girl from the Demo Trailer

    I wonder where we will get the rest of the Z-Crystals.

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  10. Anyone know where I can get a full video of the trailer from the demo?
    (Preferably just the demo on its own, without talking or anything)

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          • I don’t like any youtube channels that are trying to analyse the stuff or make their own theories, I just want the original, unadorned footage so I can make my own conclusions.

          • Dunno how anyone can miss any of the trailers that are on the official channels though. This one is the only exception because it hasn’t been posted on the original channels yet.

          • sometimes some wads don’t even go to official sites for new info, they wait for others to post about it

          • Society is slowly crumbling.

            When Gen8 arrives, if they post videos like they have this year, I’m going to start reposting them until I have a following and then post a couple of fake ones as a joke and see who notices

          • So you don’t like speculation? Alright, to each their own. Again I would mention that they generally make it clear what is analysis, a simple discussion and what is purely the trailer posted on their channel for those who are unable to easily find it, much like other news sources do. But again each their own.

          • I didn’t say I don’t like speculation, I just don’t like watching videos of youtube people trying to speculate.

            I like the speculation here on Pokejungle, but not the youtube stuff. I don’t have the time to sit through an 8 minute video full of pauses when they could just post it as a nice block of text readable in 3 minutes.

            I also don’t like them sticking their branding all over the trailers, I’d rather it were unadorned. If the demo trailer were on the official Pokemon channel I’d watch it there instead.

          • that’s a dumb thing to think and they rarely make theories their own but honestly its a theory its not a promise its a hypothesis

          • It’s still a waste of time sitting there listening to them ramble on. If they just left a transcript somewhere then I might read it, but I cba to sit though some 8 minute video of people saying something I could easily read in 2-3 minutes.

          • I know, but by watching it I’m effectively supporting the channel because they get paid by the number of viewers/upvotes/whatever.

            And it’s not plain, they adorned their logo on it which means their logo will be on all my screencaps.

  11. Okay, so if you guys were in the Pokémon world, where do you think you’d live and what starter Pokémon would you get? Keep in mind it can be any reasonable Pokémon as long as it has a backstory (the traditional ‘oh professor gave it to me’ to ‘my family caught it for me’, etc).

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    • Unova Region
      maybe Nuvema Town
      but as for a Starter i actually went to Kanto for my birthday to my Aunt who gave me a newborn Rhyhorn calf

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    • I would start out in a house in Johto, Ekruteak to be exact, and instead of looking to become the pokemon champion I would dream of being a pokemon researcher who specializes in the identification and classification of fairy types. I became fastinated in the type when it was first discovered by a notable pokemon researcher in Kalos a few years before my journey. The researcher held a competition in Pokemon Today Magazine that would bring someone to study under him provided they could share their own findings on what makes the fairy type truly unique. When I won I traveled to Laverre City where he presented me with my first pokemon to help me in the field as we did our research. My trusty Swirlix named Puff. We would eventually branch out and continue the researchers line of work traveling to many different regions in his stead. This fall our journey would take us to a distant and tropical region where fairies seem to be thriving.

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    • Might as well add mine:

      I’d start in Sinnoh (Celestic Town), but would’ve moved from Alola due to the rumors about Ultra Beasts before I would’ve started the island trials. I’d of gotten Popplio at that point, and then I’d head off for adventure in the Sinnoh region to try and become a Fairy-Type Gym Leader.

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    • Jhoto. Not a major city or town, but out away from people.
      On my way to get a proper starter I came across a Yanma that was smaller than the others I had seen.
      It was a runt and could barely hover, but the way it wobbled mid-air was adorable and I became attached to him.
      I befriended him with some berries and later bought a ball for him.

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  12. 7 Trials.
    Normal (Illima), Electric (Sophacles), Water (Lana), Grass (Mallow), Fire (Kaiwe), Ghost (Ghost Girl from Trailer), Dragon (Unknown) as shown by the 6 Totem sprites +Wishwashi school form .
    4 Kahunas.
    Fighting (Hala), Rock (Olivia), Ground (Woman with the Mudsdale in trailer), Flying (Unless they repeat Water, Guy with the Wingull)
    Man it seems they’ve screwed Dark over again.
    However, I feel theres a Central Person, a Champion Figure. If it’s a Royal Figure, then maybe Alolan Meowths existence points that they’re a Dark Type user, though probably not.

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    • Small issue. The man on the restaurant ship isn’t likely a Kahuna. Not only is he on the same island as the purple girl, who isn’t likely a Kahuna as well, but he isn’t wearing any of the colors of the Kahuna’s. If he were one, he’d be dressed in Purple or Red, not blue. So that Kahuna still remains a mystery.

      Also remember that one golfer mentioned in the demo. Her name is literally that of Hawaiian royalty. We have dark meowth’s that came from the Alolan royalty. If their is going to be a dark specialist, she’s are safest bet, and could be our missing trial captain.

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      • Unless the guy with the Pelliper is the Dragon Trial Captain, then he’s either a Kahuna or maybe the Champion character, we do tend to meet them before fighting them. However if he’s the champion Character then that means the Royal Girl isn’t. So either he’s a Kahuna, or the Dragon, or Fighting tbh, Trial Captain. Though if he is a Trial Captain, why a Pelliper? Maybe cause he seems to be some sort of captain, but even then. That’s WHY I said Kahuna, though yes now I notice it, the colour thing points against that. So perhaps he’s none, and just a guy with a Pelliper.

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          • Kommo-o is a Dragon type and Fighting is already taken by Hala. Given we know that those blank spaces ARE Totem sprites despite people thinking otherwise, as shown by Raticate, the final Trial is Dragon.

          • Raticate has one, and the next Pokemon is Spearow, they’re right next to each other in the Pokedex, so it CAN’T be another Pokemon, and we KNOW it’s a Totem, based on that we can determine the rest, and what do you know, the ones we know are Totems already have one after them, so then we can determine the rest. Wishiwashi doesn’t have one and that’ can be explained, it’s School Form. It makes perfect sense. They also match up with the known Trial Captains.
            The only Mystery is Zygardes, it’s either it’s Cell and Core, which have now been found as Items, OR it’s some sort of Boss Totem.

        • He clearly isn’t a fighting specialist given that Hala’s a fighting specialist. As well he’s clearly not a Kahuna given he’s not wearing the colors of a Kahuna. Could be be a dragon captain, yes maybe, but we don’t know. As for the Pelliper, maybe its just in their for effect. He’s standing up on a high place, so having a bird swoop by is good cinematography. It gives more life to the scene.

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          • Only the Dex Sprites missing. Yes it’s odd for that but, how else do you explain the one between Raticate and Spearow. And the others we can determine that they are based on the ones we know.
            So we have Raticate/Gumshoos (Confirmed), each have that space, so going by that we also have. Normal
            Vikavolt (Was shown early on too) Electric
            Lurantis Grass (Also was shown)
            Salandit Evo Fire
            Mimikyu Ghost , maybe fairy but the girl screams ghost to me tbh
            Kommo-o Dragon most likely.

            In addition to this Wishiwashi’s School form (Negating the need to be a Totem) was shown as one of the Trials, the Water one.
            http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry

          • They literally just explained the lack of a water Totem: Wishiwashi’s school form size negates the need for a separate model, as its already big to the point it won’t need a bigger model.

          • Different sizes wouldn’t need different models anyway, they can just scale the regular models as required. There has to be something else that would warrant having separate Pokedex stills for Totems.

          • Not necissarily. It might mean you need textures with more detail to prevent detail degredation if it were scaled significantly enough, but colour interpolation should be sufficient for a small upscale.

            Otherwise, scaling a model is as simple as changing a few numbers.

          • That’s the big mystery, it’s almost a certainty those Models are Totems, I’ve already explained why, so the big question is, why?
            And why does Zygarde have 2 missing between after it’s 50% 10% and before 100%, and why were they there, when other Pokemons forms weren’t?

          • The more I think about it the more I’m convinced the Pokedex stills were left there on purpose. There’s just too much that doesn’t add up for them to have not attempted to remove some of the data.

          • We’ll we’ll see if thursdays news gives us anything new or helps us figure out based on the rest of what we can determine.
            I feel it might show a couple of the leaked pokemon, which is good because I really want to know typings. Typings seems an odd thing to not have been found tbh.

          • I’ve explained that already. It makes sense to me that Wishiwashi’s School form negates the need for that. We’ve seen it in one of the trailers. So adding 2+2, it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. At this point.

          • Regular Wishiwashi would need one though, School Form Wishiwashi turns back to normal when its health gets low.

            That would mean there are three images not shown on that image: Totem Wishiwashi, Wishiwashi SF and Totem Wishiwashi SF.

          • It’s possible in order to make the fight harder Wishiwashi will remain in its school form throughout. It’s as simple as starting the fight as Wishiwashi School Form and give it a different ability (for example, illuminate to balance it out)

          • It’s possible, but that doesn’t explain why alternate forms weren’t found in the Pokedex stills for Wishiwashi or Mimikyu, yet they were for Zygarde.

          • It’s possible it wasn’t found. But Wishiwashi is certainly the “Missing” Totem. And so theres not really issue. Either, it’s not a Totem on account of it’s School form, or it’s Totem sprites are missing, you can think whichever till we find out in a months time.

  13. I know it’s just hopeful thinking, but what if the last trial is to organize a sort of league by asking the other Trial Captains if they would like to act as Gym Leaders? Organizing a league was part of a certain set if leaks if I recall correctly, and it would also add another layer of plot to the games.

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