Road to Sun & Moon: Demo Content

42 days until Sun & Moon release!

Some of our older readers maybe remember our Journey to X & Y and Road to Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire countdowns back in 2013 and 2014. Now, we’re with back Road to Sun & Moon!


What we want to see in the demo

I am just as excited as everyone else for the October 18th demo version of Pokémon Sun and Moon, but I really hope we don’t see a repeat of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire demo.

The demo itself is likely already finished, as it has been rated in some countries, but here are some of the things I really hope the demo does right:

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Poké Ride is one of the hotly anticipated new features of Pokémon Sun & Moon

Demonstrates features of the game

Everybody already knows how a basic Pokémon game will function, so instead of a lame 10-minute section of basic gameplay, give us a taste of some of the new features like Z-Crystals, the Poké Finder, and Poké Ride.

Show off an actual area in the game

Obviously, we aren’t going to be able to traverse all of Alola in the demo, but in the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire demo we were only allowed to see a small portion of Mossdeep City (which wasn’t exactly new), and a small demo area with no interesting features. If Game Freak wants to impress us, then they need to let us wander around a small chunk of Alola and explore to our heart’s content.

Don’t force Ash-Greninja down the player’s throat

While fans of the anime will likely be excited to get a Greninja, there is nothing about Ash-Greninja that demonstrates anything about what makes Sun and Moon interesting games.

Make it easy to get

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Make sure the demo is more difficult to mine than Skull Fossils were in Diamond and Pearl!

When the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire demos first came out, only those who received a code via the Pokémon Trainer Newsletter could download it, but that led to many players not being able to get the demo. Many players also had trouble activating their codes. Nintendo and Game Freak seemed to have thought ahead this time, though, as the demo will be up on the eShop for everyone. It will also be available on Nintendo’s website to alleviate server load for the eShop, and make it easier to download for those without a strong wireless internet connection.

Don’t make it easy to data mine

Because the demo for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire basically contained all the same files as the full game, tech-savvy fans were able to find out almost everything the games had to offer by data mining the demo. While more information about the games is exciting, Sun and Moon will be coming out just one month after the demo is released, it would be disappointing to have all the surprises ruined so close to release, as we have already had more leaks and spoilers than usual.

Those are just a few things Game Freak really should get right with the demo version of Sun & Moon and with less than two weeks remaining until the Pokémon Sun and Moon demo is released, we don’t have to wait much longer for our first hands-on peek at Generation 7.


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  • Honestly I’m really not fussed about whatever’s in the demo, I don’t think one was necessary in the first place. It would be nice to have a surprise or two in it though, like one or two new pokémon. It would be cool to get an enticing location as well.
    Really my only major desire for the demo is that we don’t get Dataminegate all over again.

  • PJ, I was wondering aloud about this earlier, but if it does get datamined, would you maybe be willing to make separate articles on the stuff that leaks? Like I want to know new pokemon but I don’t want to know plot elements. I’m not really into avoiding the site for a month and also I know if all the info is in one article I’m not going to be able to be selective about the stuff I read. It’s too tempting. Also the comments would be spoilery. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    • I just want to know these things:
      – Is there a battle frontier or something similar?
      – If not, is there at least a substantial post game?
      – Around how many new pokemon are there?
      I’m likely going to PM someone I trust on the forums for this. It’s sad that I’m probably going to have to leave the comments for a while, but I’ve made up my mind that going into these games relatively spoiler free will be worth it. Fingers crossed it doesn’t get datamined though, if that doesn’t happen I’ll just stay until I hear that someone has the game.

      • Kinda wish they just weren’t even doing a demo. I don’t think S/M even needs one. It’s really hyped.

        • I 100% wish they weren’t doing it. I mean, I’ll enjoy it, but think about it: when have we ever had so much to spoil from a pokemon game? Seriously, we have UB mystery, Lillie, team skull, aether foundation, so much to spoil, and if they’ve learned anything from the last demo, either they’re confident in its security or they’re recklessly stupid. And not to sound mean but knowing GF it’s the latter.

          • I think it’s less of a case of stupidity than a case of ignorance. I wouldn’t be surprised if they never noticed the ORAS debacle.

          • You really think a company would be so thick as to not recognize when their secrets leak to the public? Yeah I doubt that.

          • Well I don’t know how much they are paying attention to Western Pokémon news sites who would be reporting on things like this. This is Gamefreak we’re talking about.

  • My responses:
    1. Yep.
    2. I’d actually prefer for the main areas of the real game to be witheld. My idea is that maybe the demo takes place solely on the small island under Poni.
    3. Yeah, I hope we can get REAL alola pokemon.
    4. Well the game is on the eshop, so this is a given.
    5. This is where my issue comes in. As soon as the demo gets datamined, I have to leave this site (other than the forums), which may be a whole 2 weeks earlier than I thought I was going to leave. Sadly it’s highly likely that it will be datamined, it’s very hard to avoid.
    —-
    That being said, I’m looking forward to a good taste of more music and scenery.

  • Oh I don’t care what’s in the demo….I just want to play it!!!! I feel like the ORAS demo was cool and all, but since it was so similar to XY graphically it felt like it wasn’t all that much fun. This is all brand new tho! Being able to see part of Alola or even a small island that they made specifically for the demo will be awesome. Despite it being just another Pokemon game they’ve change just enough to make it feel different. I really hope there’s some surprises in the demo. we obviously know about Ash Greninja, but I hope they have some new Pokemon or a new Aolan form that’s tucked away in the demo for us to find. I imagine it’ll have a small area for us to encounter Pokemon at our will, obviously a trainer battle here or there, and maybe just like the ORAS demo we’ll get some items here and there too to transfer over. I seriously can’t wait to play!

    Now……as far as the data mining is concerned…I’m a little on the fence. It would be great to continue to go blind into the games as we basically are right now, but at the same time it’s very useful to have certain info before playing the games in November. I think the only things I really want to know are what the starters finals like ( we kind of already know, but I mean if they have split forms or not lol) and smaller details. I don’t want to get any story details yet and I really would like anything pertaining to the story to keep away. the initial leaks from the ORAS demo were all text so honestly as long as it stays liker that I don’t really have much of a problem with it as those kinds of leaks are easy to avoid. I want just enough info to get me hyped for next month. lol

    • Something I’d like to know actually is obscure evolution methods, I wouldn’t want to miss that. Add that to my list below. Leaving for a month will be so hard! D:

      • Yeah that’s a good idea. It’s the kind of stuff like the Inkay and Malamar evolution. Stuff that wouldn’t be known necessarily unless told by an outside source like a leak or hacking lol

      • I hope they don’t do “Speak ancient arabic into the microphone to evolve your pokemon”

  • I’m really worried about the demo honestly. With how big the file size is, it seems like it is just going to be filled with spoilers. I want some pokemon to be surprises for me. I haven’t been surprised by a dex since I started playing again in gen 4. I knew on BW and XY and I’m kinda tired of that. Give me some surprises! Don’t give us all of the evolutions! Don’t show all of the pokemon. Give us at least 40 to find on our own.

    Then there is the character models/textures and all of the story spoilers. I guess as soon as there is data mining information, I’m jumping ship unless PokeJungle does something to Quarantine the spoilers

    • Part of me says that GF would learn from the ORAS demo and wouldn’t’ve released a demo this time if they weren’t confident in its security.
      The other part says that they learned nothing and are making the same mistakes. This isn’t like ORAS, that was a remake, there are ACTUAL THINGS to spoil here, which makes it all the more risky.

      • I think, unless gamefreak has changed dramatically, that the latter is more likely to be true. Gamefreak knows, for example, that hackers find the mythicals that are supposed to be surprises. If they really wanted them to be surprising for anyone who has access to the internet, they would corrupt the modals or something to stop people from seeing them until they get the event.

      • The thing is, Gamefreak has no reason to care. ORAS sold just fine, as a company they have no reason to believe the datamine affected sales, and as such may not be able to justify spending the time and money in scrubbing out the text data.

    • Also I’m with you there on the very appropriate for alola “jumping ship”. I’ve heard earthen say that he’s going to spread spoilers in the comments, which is primarily why I come here, so it’ll be forums and serebii for me for like a month. :/ There should be like a “spoiler-free month” article/area where we can stay and discuss official stuff.

      • I’ll just play Stardew Valley all day to avoid spoilers. On a quiet farm town where no one can spoil me. The only thing being spoiled are my crops. And I can just chill with my wife Abigail. And farm stuff. And restore the town hall. And explore the new update

        • Swap Stardew Valley for Animal crossing, farm town for small town, crops for radishes, and wife for villagers, and then that’s me. xD But I’m actually going to marathon pokemon games, I hope I don’t burn myself out.

          • I’m planning on finishing Black version tonight then doing the post game of Black and HGSS during my two 8 hour car rides to and from Panama City for vacation and then finish Black 2 by the time Sun and Moon comes out

          • I’m going to finish HGSS, since I lost some data I’m still in the Mahogany hideout, then I’m going to play W2, which I’ve actually only ever played once weirdly enough, and then finish it off with Red where it all began, as a “baton pass” of sorts.

    • I’m buying the physical version so the demo has enough room (I hope!) with a solid 19,000 blocks or so. I pray to the Pokelords it’s under 10,000, I don’t care if it’s big, I want to have a safe sized one!

    • Exactly ! I tried to avoid spoilers in XU but the game was loaded with old pokemon and that ruined the surprise for me, in every area there waa like 10 old pokemon and 1 new.even the trainers had old pokemon.

  • My mane hope is that it lasts as long as the ORAS demo, I was playing that demo for a while, trying to get the rare missions. I also hope it has a few surprise new Pokémon or Alolan forms to find.

  • I hope they at least remove those textures from the pokedex this time. We would probably not know what the new Pokémon looked like and just how many of them their and names.

  • If they do data mine the demo, I’m not going to read anything about it. I would like to know some of the stuff, but not everything right before launch (though it would be very tempting).

    • Same, if I find that it’s been data mined then I’ll just get off the internet an entire month till I play the actual game. I want to be suprised and shocked in this play through.

  • Be it traitorous or downright heracy but I wanna to see this here Demo gutted like a trout
    I want info and I want it now, I want a whole lists of Pokemon with their entire movepools, base stats hell even a TM list with all new moves, it’s this type of succulent info that my brain both craves and prides itself on knowing by heart nearly photographically
    I don’t give a damn bout spoiling Pokemon lists as long as there’s info to be soaked up
    But I’d be lying (or risk sounding hypocritical) if I didn’t say I don’t want story details that is my one break point

      • Yeah but I mean I don’t want to know all the Pokémon necessarily. I had a dream once where I found a Pokémon I had never seen before, caught it and it turned out to be a shiny version of that Pokémon, I obviously didn’t see the stars when the battle started. I’d like to have that fresh discovery, the last time I had that was gen 4.

    • Yus. Plus another potential trailer on the 14th. The trailer might just show us what’s in CoroCoro, but I’d be willing to bet we get a small amount more than just that.

    • I play occasionally. Have less time now is the problem. If I had more time I’d go for more walks, but it’s kind of a drag when I’m already so tired from work lol

      • I get that. Do you feel as though you’d play it more if the tracking system was like it used to be? Easier to pinpoint pokemon instead of random?

        • Probably. It’d make things way easier that’s for sure. I don’t battle the gyms as I find the battling system a little messed up and confusing so collecting is the only part I find fun about it. Which is great as that’s part of Pokemon in general, but they really need to expedite the beta they’re doing in California and update the rest of the world so we can better play again lol

          • I’ve pretty much given it up, I just have it so I can look at my Cubone buddy every once in a while, and even when I played it frequently I never did the gyms. It seemed fruitless, the gym would be gone in an hour xD. I think my problem with it is the fact the tracking’s gone. It went from being a brand new type of walking app which encouraged you to get out of the house (I’d literally get up and walk around if a pokemon was two footprints away) to being like every other walking app where you just turn it on when you’re already up and about.

          • Yeah the tracking system being dead definitely wrecked its usefulness. I too found myself more inclined to go out and walk, but now it feels like an after thought lol

  • I wonder if there will be a mention of a link between the Z-Crystals and the gen 5 type gems. Also if they will work with Unburden or be like Mega Stones in that regard.

  • So I recently found out that the deadline for PJL battles was Thursday. I got banned from using the internet on weekdays last Monday (Don’t ask), so it’s been hard to get on the Forums. I knew I wouldn’t win or ever have a chance against a gym leader, but I was really in it for the fun and excitement. I only got to do 4 of my battles….
    In brighter news, Poekoko is a gym leader. He’s in Canada so he won’t be looking at the Forums till Sunday, so I’m gonna tell him over the phone. He’ll be thrilled 😀

      • well you could avoid said spoilers of it by not visiting this site, serebii and just utterly discontinue cookies of pokemon vids off youtube :3

          • i’d assume you watch pokemon videos on youtube? so then youtube knows your PC’s recommendations and suggests more videos like that, in doing so it will show you lots of pokemon vids uploaded by vlogging sharing leaked info on the games ahead of time. To remedy this, click a pokemon vid in your suggestions of its option bar and select you don’t like vids like this and it will remove pokemon vids as a suggestion

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  • I feel GF could change starters final evolutions a little …..But if they want make them as an exclusive forms they should reveal them before the leak cuz starters r a critical issue.

    • Since the leak was concept art it’s possible, though unlikely. We don’t even know if they are anticipating a leak from the demo.

      • You mean Mewtwos’ special Pokéballs? Some of the coolest designs imo, they wouldn’t even have to have the same power to catch, just make them for catching Psychic, Ghost and Dark types easier or something.

    • If they do another Kanto remake, they should have a whole Mewtwo story arc, and have him capture pokemon with those and then battle you XD

  • The only thing I possibly want leaked from a data mine is the starter final evolutions. I don’t know if data mines would show the 3-D form, but if we got the typing and stats I’d be fine with that. I just want to know which starter I want to get.

  • Not much they can do about datamining. It’d take way too much effort to scrub all that out when ORAS showed no signs of losing sales due to it.

  • I finished Pokemon Black. That ending is better every time I play it. I just love N as a character. I love how he doesn’t just change his mind. He leaves to look inside himself and figure out what he thinks is right. It’s so much better than boring “Oh I was wrong now I am good yay” He is an actual complex character and I hope Generations does him justice

      • No, that would make him worse. Having a character that just flat out hates humanity and won’t change his mind is stale and boring. A character with no change is not a character because change is where character is found. N’s arch is an important one that many people in the world need to go through on their own. He realized that everything is not just Black and White (the titles of these games are perfect).

        There isn’t just good and bad or right or wrong. It’s always gray. No one idea can stand correct and alone, many people can shape that idea into a truth. N’s refusal to accept the idea that it isn’t binary is what makes him compelling. His whole life he had been told that people are bad for pokemon and that they need to be separated to truly be free. He grew up believing that. But it isn’t true. There are people who do horrible things, but between the two working together, the world is changed for the better.

        Having his ideas challenged was inevitable because having an idea standing alone is fragile. N learned that no one person is right or wrong and that’s important, not only for his character, but for life. You can’t just say humans are bad because it isn’t true. Humans work together, build, communicate, learn and just help each other. But they also attack, destroy, insult, and censor each other. No one side represents all of humanity. It isn’t binary. Just people who all grew up differently, saw different things, had unique experiences and argue for what they think is true. But that person isn’t correct on their own. It is a gray area. It isn’t black and white.

  • Can’t wait for the data mine personally.

    Since we’re getting the game a week late anyway, and no one will have the courtesy to not spoil it for the Europeans, may as well go all out with a data mine.

    Besides I don’t really care about spoilers….bring on the information overload.

  • Hey guys, I have a question related to the “new” UK trailer (which is an adaptation of the best JP one), hope anyone can answer: now that we know there are more than 4 trial captains (with the addition of Ilima in the trailer), how did people know which islands the other trial captains were in for sure?

    • This picture explains it pretty well. It’s officially confirmed that Mallow is the trial captain of Lush Jungle on Akala island, that Lana is on a boat and that Kiawe is atop a volcano.

      For Lana, common consensus says she’s probably in the circular pools in the northwest of Akala island, since the colour of the pools matches the colour of the water (compare the picture of lapras when Pokéride was revealed to a picture of Lana in game).

      For Kiawe, the only volcanos in Alola are on Melemele island and Akala Island, and the one on Melemele island appears to be dormant. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86d678a4b80104ee8280c56f39ed3006da3740fc758dd16966dcd4490cba4fd8.png

      • Hmm, ok, I see that Mallow is confirmed, but I have two problems with this image:

        1- couldn’t the place where you encounter Kiawe be on the southwest island, in those “black geyser” looking things?
        2- the bridge in Lana’s screenshot has something that looks like sand on the other side, which is not present in the map; also’ the limits of the water are big boulders, when they should be those white walls.

        Oh, and do people have any idea where sophocles will be encountered? I don’t think they would “waste” the observatory on the top of that mountain just for fighting the little guy (if we’re fighting the captains at all)

  • I think game freak knows this time not to include the full game content on the demo lol.

  • I hope that they can easily data mine, sorry you people who don’t want spoilers, but we need it!

    • not really lol spoilers were fun for ORAS because it was just a remake but alot of people wanna go into sun/moon completely blind my friend only knows what the starters look like

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  • My expectations
    Ash-Greninja
    ability to catch other Pokémon
    Z-Moves
    Pokeride
    At least one unseen Pokémon in it
    Access to at least a piece of an island
    Have one trial available please have that!

  • I wanna go in the game blind like I did with Diamond and Pearl I had no idea what I was doing and all the Pokemon were a surprise. But I could live without Ash-Greninja.

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  • Only thing I really want to know in the (almost inevitable) data mine is the exact number of new Pokemon and Alola Forms. I don’t need to know what they all are… well, maybe the Alola forms, but I’d like a number. Also really curious if the final starter evo leak is true. I’ve already resigned myself to the leaks, so now it’d be kind of weird if they *didn’t* end up like that.

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