As promised a new batch of Pokémon Sun & Moon information has just been dropped! The new drop contains information on the Starter Pokémon Evolutions!
New Trailer
New Information
- Partner Pokémon evolutions revealed!
- Dartrix is Rowlet’s evolution. It remain Grass/Flying-type with the ability Overgrow
- Litten evolves into Torracat, remains Fire-type with the Blaze ability
- Brionne is Popplio’s Water-type evolution with the Torrent ability
- Festival Plaza allows players to interact with one another and earn Festival Coins.
- Festival Coins can be used in shops to purchase a variety of things, from stat increase items to clothing and accessories
- Poké Pelago is a new location that Pokémon stored in PC Boxes can visit. Poké Pelago can allow you Pokémon to attract Wild Pokémon, uncover new items or even train and increase their levels.
- Mega Evolution returns and is achieved through the Z-Ring
- Demo for Sun & Moon releases October 18th on the eShop
- The demo version of the game allows players to use a special Greninja that can transform in Ash-Greninja when it becomes charged with its Battle Bond. Ash-Greninja can be transferred to the full copy of the game
- Trainers can battle other trainers teams in the Global Link by scanning their QR code
New Japanese Trailer
[NEW] The next drop of news for Sun & Moon will arrive on October 14.
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YES I’M SO EXCITED OMG
Robinhoot Robinhoot Robinhoot Flying through the glen
Cannot wait!
Let the starters and guardians come!
They are no much for Rockruff and Lycanroc!
Must find a way to burn an hour and twenty minutes
How about some pokemon training, you’re a tuffie in combat, right…? Maybe you could strengthen your body further by doing that Rock Wrecker.
*standing in front of the wall of info of Pokemon Sun and Moon are the Gamers and there Pokemon*
I think it’s pretty safe to assume we’ll get starter evos today… About a month before release (like XY)… Then again GF might surprise us
Boy, did i pick a good time to check in~
I think we’re finally going to get the Starter evolutions and some other big news. I can’t wait!
Very excited for this, but keeping my expectations very low.
my expectations are not very high for this
Me too
Me three
Me five!
My expectations are high, which is probably bad.
whell in my school the first period bell goes off at 8:13 am so i will be here when it is revealed.
Same I go to school 6:45 pst
Lucky, my school starts in a half hour.
i get to high school on bus because i live pretty far away from school
Let the information flow!
Hope it won’t be like UB02
it probably won’t be like that i think they are done with ultra beasts right now.
I am curious about the toucan and other new ones
Hoping we get starter second stages, expecting nothing! 😀
An announcement of an announcement! =3
Oh deer, that would be downtrot wrong…
Since we are all waiting, how about we name our newest found shinies in OR/AS (if any) where we found them and how long ago.
Mine was a golden klefki which i found on the ash route before fallarbor town, just this morning~
Shiny pinsir while breeding.
When did you hatch it, deer?
While I haven’t found any recently the last one I obtained was a shiny magikarp from a trade. I’m waiting for Sun & Moon before I start shiny hunting again.
A shiny magikarp is still a shiny, and much rarer than it’s shiny evo.
Well, here’s to hoping you find the shiny you want most next gen~
Thank you. I’m hoping to get a shiny Pyukumuku.
come to think of it, i wonder what the alolan variations will look like as shinies…
I hope shiny Alolan Persain is nice.
Shiny Zigzagoon while EV training with horde battles. I traded for a competitive Shiny Lopunny though. It’s flippin adorable.
Well I have no shinies and this thread is making me cry
I can give you one… if you want~
Dang I’ve got tons of shiny pokemon I have a shiny Cacturn I no longer need if you want it.
While not in OR/AS, I found an Illumise in Y while accidentally riding into a flower patch when hatching eggs. It was a couple of months ago though…
Hey, good on ya, did ya catch it successfully?
It was a couple of weeks ago, but I found a shiny Mawile in FS 🙂
I’m still hunting for my current target, which is either Snorunt or Sneasel.
Best of luck, those are hard to catch unless you plan ahead.
I found a shiny poochyena. Dexnav chaining. Can’t remember when I got it thou
Well, good for you~ is it perhaps your first chain catch?
Mine was throh in OR/AS, but i found a shiny golbat in emerald once, and a few random ones since.
I have mainly shiny hunted in XY
Buuut that Poochyena is my first shiny in ORAS
I guess i had a mixed bag with finding them a mid low success rate of capture, until OR/AS, because i was well prepared.
Most recent: chainfishing for a shiny Barboach in OR and got one on the sixth try.
The next day I horde-hunted in the Safari Zone for 2 hours and got nothing. It’s basically all up to chance. I’ve seen over 900 Oddish, and not a SINGLE shiny. And over 500 Doduo too.
Don’t really care what we get. I just want MOAR. 🙂
Same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzWafwY20o
In florida we got a TV station named M.O.R.
I’m curious if we’ll hear more about trial captains, Kahunas and this new island challenge
You and me are thinking so alike rn… i was just about to write that comment
Same! I would like to how this new system works.
im also curious about this, but im MOSTLY curious about the other tapu’s and Ultra beasts, plus some evolutions of pokemon we have seen already like janmo-o and minior..im dying to know my cutie dragon’s evo!!
Would love to see an Aye Aye Pokémon. Maybe Dark type? (Refresh) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98611e4d65d66b0bae25f04f553c1714a4fc05ee199093e4a4b6c706bba9a1c4.jpg
“Rooby Roo?”
Ok, um, after seeing that Pokemon I dont’ think I do. In fact I’m pretty sure I’ll have a nightmare about this now
Think of the dex entry tho…
“I watch you while you sleep”
“I know when you’re awake~”
You’re officially my favorite person on here now
Deer, you’re making me bloom, thankies~
yw! I like the deerling avatar you have! one of my favorite grass types, my favorite being skiddo
I am an artist, i made this myself, there is an animated version, but i cannot play it on disqus sadly…
oh really! i like ur style alot. where could i see the animated version if i wanted to see
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2debdedd14558bacf1cdbca576d9dafafb99876c5c1fba7559e833054a1d078b.gif
Here it is~
woah its 3d! how long did it take?
“I’ve seen things, many things”
“The more you know…”
“Life isn’t what its used to be, People kill and i’ve seen it for my own eyes”
I really want to see some pure fairy types that don’t look all cute and cuddly. Didn’t the term fairy cover a wide range of Fae like goblins ect?And some of which where down right malicious. those are the type of fairies I want to see
Mr. Mime is scary enough
I think it would work well as fairy dark or pure fairy.
Oh shit I almost forgot about this xD
damn……i decided to play LoZ OoT 3D i somehow managed to beat the water temple in forty five mins AND catch the heaviest fish……usually after the water temple the game tends to stagnate and i lose interest
they fixed the water temple alot in the remake
yeah but then again i’ve replayed oot hundreds of times
Hell Dark Link is cake now
I beat water temple in under 25 minutes, but I’m an expert
Since its a beginning of the month trailer. I can see more characters being announced. I really hope we get a hacker type guy for team skull or Aether who wears a mask and hides his identity
How much I wish for dunsparce evolution?? but I hope to see some evolutions of the recent Pokemon. Salendit. Bounsweet ect
I have a feeling we will be getting alot of news considering its not far away untill the release date now !
I remembered a rumor that one of the previous Pokémon will have a cute Godzilla looking Evo
Larvitar?
lol yup
No I think Bounsweet
Im betting on a new Type. No reason, i just want something new. Sound Perhaps?
everyone and their grandmum pitches Sound or light
Infinity Type.
Null Type.
Space type
Type? It is Null.
I can get behind this, also I didn’t know you ventured into our comments 🙂
Random but I see that lady gaga gif on the PJ twitter. Slé
It’s the only type I think still might be created, but I don’t think we’ll get it. They’d have revealed something like that sooner.
But I don’t know, new types are usually created to balance out stuff. Dark and Steel were created because Psychic was unbeatable in Gen I, Fairy was created to make Dragons less invulnerable and to give Poison and Steel more offensive usefulness.
i was late to the bus and ill be here for this.
Nyargthh my new card didn’t pay into my wow account……
i know the feeling bro. I just spent $43 AUD on a MMO for items i cant even use yet
it’s working now but the jitters mixed with the pokenews is a volatile mix
You need tea, tea calms the nerves and stops the jitters~
I can make you some~
i swear if you make it out of your own dang head/butt petals there will be hell to pay
Nope, just fresh, store-bought teabags, i swear~
Enjoy~
i don’t drink tea so HA
Tea is good for the soul, its the reason i left being a wittle goat
my soul is crazed and restless
Which is why you need tea, deer…
THAT PUN!
…What pun…?
you said deer instead of dear. since your pic is a deerling… Ill just go
Silly, it’s a term of endeerment, not a pun~
oh 🙁 i puns tho. i failed lol
*WILDLY SHOOTING SHOTGUN*
Easy there tex~
woah there partner no need to shoot reckless
Eh, more for me~
what flavor tho?
Earl grey?
Good choice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5c2QVB1Drk
the movie was pretty good
i love Dick Figures soooo much
Eh, i liked BamanPiderman better.
15 minutes and counting
Ten mins Left.
This is how Ash’s Rowlet will look in the sun and moon anime (rf)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/476c34fb2899e8225b0542323d7dc7a7f06ef1ba886fa0750e104ca636ddfe31.jpg
Needs more pookachoo…
7 more minutes! 😀
Maybe we’ll meet UB-03…!? 🙂
Perhaps we’ll get the 2nd evo of the Starters, a couple of more new Pokémon (maybe Marshadow, or whatever the Legendary people often talk about?) and a couple of more new Moves/Abilities.
I probably am a bit too optimistic here…! 😉
I really hope we get a real glimpse of one of the other islands.
Hi did I miss anything? Need something from Pokemon to cheer me up from my currently bad day XD
i made rowlet in the sun and moon anime below
I am amin hyper…..rise ur hand and bivalve in a good leak.
am i the only one does like every event last minute because i forget?
Ughhhhh my sweet baby beatrice is sitting behind my door whimpering for her daddy, just 10 mins left
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/54d9a918a3b2d5566f50f86ffe4976078eeff702aad375ea6fcdd7dbe59a4572.gif
Are we getting a video or?
usually. that said, last time they just updated the japanese site with new stills.
anticipation raised sharply!
Your accuracy fell…
3 minutes.
I pray something good happens for earthen today in the trailer
I’m going to miss these moments of critical mass when all of the possibilities for the reveal narrow down to just one trailer. It’s always a great feeling.
a great feeling is the adrenaline rn
Until next year when the maybe final pair of Pkm games for the 3DS are announced lol
or 2 years
It’s the best time to be a Pokemon fan and be on this site.
Look around, look around at how lucky we are to be alive right now 🙂
Anticipation making me shudder
Starter evos, please Arceus, please…!
“and now for the starter evolutions! Introducing…Alolan Ivysaur, Charmeleon and Wartortle!”
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1475583149550.png
You always post good stuff
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Yes
less than a minute left 😀
Is it starting at 9:00?
my leg is restless
heart rate up
left arm suspiciously numb
THE PINGS OF ANTICIPATION
I GOTTA PEE!!!!!!!
Omg it begins??
Oh shit my heart is freaking out xD
Just in time!
OMG
EVO’S
READY FOR DISAPPOINTMENT
Starter revealed
Happy New Years kinda feels…
THERE IT IS!
disapoint me NOW
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n9o552CaJV8
ohooooooooooo staters evo’s.
Look at this Prince Peasley looking boy…
IT’S BIPEDALLLLL
Going for Litten again
Ok megas are back gg
I LIKE THE CAT
and ash ninja with a demo day before my birthday….
I love this music in the Japanese trailer 🙂
Isle Evelup <3
OCTOBER 18 DEMO AHHHHHH
Dartrix
CATEGORY Blade Quill Pokémon
TYPE Grass/Flying
HEIGHT 2′04″
WEIGHT 35.3 lbs.
ABILITY Overgrow
Dartrix is extremely sensitive to other presences in the area and can detect opponents behind it and throw feathers to strike them without even seeing them. This Pokémon conceals sharp-bladed feathers inside its wings, showing astounding precision as it sends them flying in attack. And it goes beyond propelling its blade quills in simple straight lines—it can even bend these feathers to change their trajectories!
Revealing a certain snobbiness in its personality, Dartrix cares a great deal about its appearance, grooming its feathers in every spare moment. In truth, it’s also a bit of a birdbrain, with a tendency to bungle things up. Once it makes a mistake, it sometimes gets into a desperate struggle to gloss over the situation and ends up making a bigger mess than ever.
At times, this Pokémon feels so bothered by its dirty or ruffled feathers that it can’t focus on battle. When it loses its focus, it sometimes even retires from the battle on the spot! It’s up to each Trainer to help Dartrix overcome this troublesome stage. If this Pokémon is with a Trainer who helps it through, its strength will grow hugely!
Torracat
CATEGORY Fire Cat Pokémon
TYPE Fire
HEIGHT 2′04″
WEIGHT 55.1 lbs.
ABILITY Blaze
The bell-like object attached at the base of Torracat’s neck is a flame sac, an organ that can produce flames. Torracat’s emotions cause a rise in the organ’s temperature, and when the organ spits flames, it rings with the high, clear sound of a bell. Torracat attacks using the flames emitted from this bell.
Torracat’s mane serves as an excellent sensory organ, and it can sense what’s going on around it—even in the dark! It can also detect the presence of hidden enemies.
Torracat has a great love for battle and will attack so relentlessly that its opponents lose the will to fight. And yet it sometimes behaves like spoiled child in front of Trainers or Pokémon with whom it has built a relationship of trust.
The cat punch that this Pokémon can dish out with its strong forelegs is extremely powerful. It can bend iron bars and knock out large men with a single blow!
When I see a popplio evolve (RF) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c3775087164cfe66e35a5557cd3891d1546d031bb660ad48cfaf1339f5a0d96.jpg
I LOVE LITTEN2 PLS HAVE A DIFFERENT LITTEN3 AND U’RE MINE
Brionne
CATEGORY Pop Star Pokémon
TYPE Water
HEIGHT 2′00″
WEIGHT 38.6 lbs.
ABILITY Torrent
Brionne learns its dances by imitating the other members of its colony. It sometimes even learns dances from humans. This Pokémon is a hard worker and pours itself into its efforts until it has memorized each dance. As it dances, Brionne creates balloon after balloon. In battle, it first sends its opponent into disarray with its dancing, and then slaps its balloons into its target, causing the balloons to explode and deal damage.
Brionne can dance in perfect time with others, even if they have only just met. On moonlit nights, you can sometimes see throngs of Brionne dancing as one, in perfect fluidity.
Brionne always acts cheery and positive. Even when it’s feeling sad, this Pokémon doesn’t allow its sorrow to show. It’s said that Brionne will only reveal a sad expression to a Pokémon or Trainer to whom it has opened its heart completely.
or we can look at the website lol
THEY ACTUALLY DID IT THE MADMANS THEMSELVES
Ash-Greninja!
SCREAMING!!! ASH-GRENINJA
DOES THAT MEAN LITTEN2 WILL BE BIPEDAL???
Not actually ….lok at his neck….it’s the same belt.
Yep, that Chinese leak was definitely legit. It’s too obvious how the 3rd evo would look now.
Oh, and both Litten and Rowlet looks good. Litten’s looks fierce, while Rowlet’s looks nerdy… but so am I LOL. Popplio’s? Like a clown T_T
And the owl is horrible lol (I keep forgetting its name)
ASH-GRENINJA. MY GOD
Ugh, I really like Torracat, but not the final one.. -_-
why is poppilo evo art look so derp.
Two things
1: Dartrix looks fabulous af
2: Chinese leaker is now 100% accurate
It’s very obvious that the starter’s final evolutions are indeed real. I REALLY want to know who leaked those.
You can’t tell me Brionne isn’t going to be a Fairy type lol
Do you know the user Cresselia on Smogon? He/she leaked it there after receiving it from a Chinese source
No, I’ve never heard of that person. Last I heard they were first leaked on 4chan, but I’m not sure…
The guy who leaked it on 4chan got it off Smogon
Yes, I can see the final evolution connecting with the starters already
I can see it with the other two, but not Dartrix. Not saying it won’t happen, but still. It’s just so fat and foppish, seems weird to think it’ll become slim and fast xD
Well, look what happened with Chespin: he turned into Quilladin, and then Chesnaught.
I like Rowlett’s and Popplio’s evos
Ash-Greninja… Those sideburns still bother me
Its Ash’s hair xD
it’s official i am Litten
I do consider it again depending on final evo. But the middle evo slays the other two!
does the Japanese trailer hint that Alolan Sandshrew and Alolan Vulpix are exclusives?
The leaker is wrong! I knew it!
We don’t know that yet
Yes we do. They leaked the wrong second evolutions. And I’m sorry, there is no way Dartrix and Torracat turn into the archer and the wrestler
Lmao the state of you mate. They are real. Accept it
…The leaks were for the 3rd stages mate 😉
What? Dart –> Archer
Torracat Description —LuchaLitten
Brionne —> Mermaid.
Those leaks are true. Stop pretending
No, I think the leaks are real .-.
English trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqAkdXQ9dw
omfg the music
it inspires
OMG OMG SO MUCH TO TAKE IN
STARTER EVOS LOOK AMAZING!!! THIS CONFIRMS DUAL FORMS FOR ME WITH LITTEN’S EVO
THE WIFI PLAZA IS BACK OMG YES
PC POKÉMON ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHIG TO DO OTHER THAN ROTTING AWAY
ASH GRENINJA WHAT
Read Torracat description and you will have no doubt on it becoming LuchaLitten
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH!! GLAD SOMEONE IS TALKING IN CAPS AND HAS NO NEGATIVITY!
HOW CAN I BE MAD WHEN MY BEAUTIFUL MERMAID IS CONFIRMED. OR WHEN I CAN LEVEL MY PC POKÉMON OMG
I CAN NOW REACH A BOND WITH MY POKEMON TO CHANGE THEIR FORM OH MY GOD!
Ash-Goodra anyone?
YES PLEASE
Am i the only who thinks the second stages dont fit with they finals we’ve seen or is it just me.
Rowlet’s is the only one that doesn’t, imo
Rowlet’s look like he golfs at his daddy’s private golf course
If I ever get one I’m naming is Pacifica
Marquis for me
I’m 100% sure we are getting sun/moon forms now. They connect a bit too loosely
I want this so bad.
Litten’s is the only i feel like can fit, because the paws did indeed get bigger
Popplio also gets way more feminine
that is also true, but that art of it, its kinda bad and doesnt fit the in-game model
Love how Rowlet’s evolution looks like some 90s boyband star xD
I WANT BRIONNE!!!!!
Remember when we all thought Ash-Greninja was Mega Greninja and would be in Pokemon Z? Things were so bad back in 2015…
looks like the archer evo is even more likely, dartrix, dart is just like an arrow. wow dartix is such a pretty boy.
Omg Brionne is adorable ❤️
Torracat is really cool. I wish it didn’t become bipedal so bad 🙁
the leaks were real…
Without a doubt
What leaks?
The original Chinese leaks that mentioned Ash-Greninja, starter evos, Alola formes, Pyukumuku, Wishiwashi, Palossand line and others
which leaks?
i like brionne it looks so cute with its frilly dress
I love all three of them <3 Although my fave is the pretty boy Dartrix 🙂
I LOOOOVE them!! SO hype now,,,
I’m naming my Dartrix Zayn or Niall or something.
I am shaking with excitement. I haven’t been this hyped for a starter since Treecko. Dartrix absolutely fits right up my alley. I was having doubts between Litten and Rowlet for my first playthrough, and although I really like Torracat, there is no doubt anymore. Rowlet is going to be my first starter!
“Revealing a certain snobbiness in its personality, Dartrix cares a great deal about its appearance, grooming its feathers in every spare moment”
Pretty boy/boy band Dartrix confurmed
When Tauros ran through the Plaza did anyone else think ” that’s pretty unsafe”…..
I’m so disapointed in poplio beyond words, litten is still the best one in the bunch
I think the second popplio one isn’t half bad.
Popplio was actually good I never understood why it was so unpopular, it looked dump but it was nice, but its evolution is tragic, its so bad
And wait. Does this mean that Ash will not release Greninja in the anime?
Dartrix to owl3 just doesn’t seem to fit logically. The brown feathers in its underwings do, but the hair and the pride don’t really match with the archer theme in the next evo.
I’m goona say it a billion times. Sun/Moon forms
The hair covers it face just like the hood does?
Dart. You know…?
I own you a apology
lol for what? Mega evos? Don’t worry about it!
Looks similar to me. Quilladin doesn’t look similar to Chesnaught. This is nothing new for some Pokemon.
Ugh now I HAVE to pick Popplio
Initial Thoughts….
Dartrix: Keeps flying type (although the Dar does imply a change to dark typing which i do not want!) , also…. someone is trying to give Mega Ampharos a run for their money in L’Oreal sponsorship!
Torracat: I actually really like it, reminds me of the subtle changes that Cyndaquil made when evolving into Quilava which i liked.Was my least favourite starter but liking it more now.
Brionne: Again not much of a change which is fine but not linking it as much as i had hoped to. Very feminine in design and name but that is fine.
PC Boxes: LOVE this idea…almost like a in game version of the dream world in a way!
Mega’s Return: Never really in danger but good to see confirmation, wouldn’t mind seeing a couple of new ones but not too many – maybe Johnto Starters???
Demo: YAY YAY YAY YAY! Also Ash-Greninja is a nice touch and this is a good way to add him to the game without it actually being a large part of the actual game, more like a bonus Easter egg 🙂 Interested to learn more about what the demo will include.
The “Dar” in Dartric is for dart mostlikely
Yeah, like it’s evo most likely will be a certian leaked bow and arrow weiled birb.
I screamed so hard I got lightheaded, lol
So is Battle Bond a new ability?
“A pokeball containing a greninja from a certain someone”
It couldnt be- could it?
Well I’m down with everything we got! Not sure I’m a fan of Dartrix’s over all design, but I like what it’s based on at least. Kind of funny. I LOVE Torracat and Brionne tho!! They’re awesome! Glad we finally got some confirmation about Ash Greninja being in the games.Now people can stop arguing over whether it’s anime exclusive or not lol One question that comes to mind though is how the whole bong thing works. Seemed like an ability rather than an outside force. So maybe only certain Pokemon with the ability Battle Bond can do it?
i actually cooed at all the evolutions because they where what i thought they might look like.
Oh look, Megas
Who would have thought that such a massive part of the game wouldn’t be thrown away am I right? lol
I love Torracat and Brionne. Dartrix…not so much. The emo hair. Ew. Shame because Rowlet was my first pick of starter ;___;
Join Avenue is back with a different name! Lol. Yay. Was one of my fave features of BW2.
DEMO IS OUT IN 2 WEEKS YOU GUYS HOLY CRAP
I knew Ash Greninja would be in game, I thought it would have a new name and a slighty different method of obtaining, but I never gave up on the idea.
Torrocat is beautiful too.
Well, Popplio certainly got more… fabulous? Man, that is the girliest-looking Pokemon since Sylveon. Leaked final evos looking *extremely* probable at this point, but I bet they don’t even show us till the game comes out.
They won’t. I don’t think they’ve ever officially revealed the final evos for the starters before the release.
If Popplio isn’t 100% female, I’ll have a “problem”.
I’m betting it has the same starter ratio of every starter ever (and Eevee): only 1 in 8 is female. *sigh*
HAHAHAHA, fruity dreams
The more I think of Brionne and final Merman-seal, the more I think of Zoolander.
Popplio becomes “really really ridiculously good-looking” and then ends up as a model. Much to his coal-miner father’s disappointment. Plus Popplio looks like… a simple sort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0NLheu8mU
Datrix: “This Pokémon conceals sharp-bladed feathers inside its wings, showing astounding precision as it sends them flying in attack. And it goes beyond propelling its blade quills in simple straight lines—it can even bend these feathers to change their trajectories!” [Archer confirmed!]
This made it so much easier for me to go with Rowlet in Sun and Litten in Moon. Seriously, Dartrix is my favorite first grass starter evolution since Grotle.
the same here… since im getting one digital…
i liked this reveal…
Wait, I mixed this up. Rowlet in Moon and Litten in Sun.
Not really all that exciting, I was hoping for some like new new pokemon but oh well, clearly Popplio is the best starter now imo, and it looks like Ash-Greninja is demo exclusive and then you have to transfer it
I for one love that pretentious owl! Torracat exudes so much confidence and strength! Brionne ummm… blows such ummm adorable bubbles….
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Everyone needs to check their Pokemilage points asap because it WILL be ending late October
you could miss out on stockpiling lots of Rare candies, PP Ups, Heart Scales and Ability Capsules,
I’m still praying Litten will have a different final form, but if not I might have to learn to love it, specially if it’s a dark type. Brionne is horrible
Would have preferred no Ash Grreninja- everyone having one makes it feel a little less special
You were starting to lose me there sun and moon, but I’M SUCKED BACK IN! Please don’t ruin Torracat T.T Even though I’m picking Rowlet lol
Torracat’s description makes me think dark type…
Why do they hate me and my love for Popplio???? I mean seriously??? That is awful. This is the first gen I won’t use the water starter in either version.
The Rowlet evo looks really cute and is quite funny. Litten looks strong but I will be really disappointed if it goes Fire/Fighting.
yeah popplio is officially the worst starter in my list, I was rooting for it :/
It had such a promising design. Really disappointing. 🙁
I love it
Same, its the best of the three imo
lol srsly ?
yes…? why would I not be serious?
because its quite bad
oh wow, Im sorry I wasn’t aware that your opinion was the only one that mattered.
it is to me
You say “it DOES to me”.. you can’t say ‘it is matter to me’
It’s an awesome pretty mermaid! Yeah, it may be a bit different, but I think it’s great
Good for you, just not my cup of water starter.
facts
they should have come up with other name caue Ash Greninja is so lame and doesnt make any sense since Ash is not there, feels like a fanservice to me..a bad one too
The fact that “Ash-Greninja” is what they’re dubbing it bothers me on so many levels
I like Torracat but I’m worried about the Chinese leaks. And if there’s not going to be alternative evolutions for the starters… I might just pick Rowlet again.
AHHHHHHHH!!!!!
STARTER EVOS AND A DEMO?!?!?!
Yaaaaaaaaas!!!!
Hopefully it won’t be data mined like the ORAS demo. >.<
YES DATAMINE IT WE COULD HAVE ALL DA SWEET SEXY INFOS
Wow! I love the starter evolutions! I still doubt the dual evolutions though. I’m going off of the Riddler’s leaks. Anyways, I can’t believe we predicted Mega Evolution! I knew the circular hole on the bottom of the Z-Ring would trigger Mega Evolution. It seems like Dexio and Sina will get give you the Key Stone! I like the new additions as well. Time to watch the JP trailer!
Imagine thinking the leaks were fake. Stop embarassing yourself please. Even the biggest sceptics have to admit it now
We aren’t talking about the fact that POKÉMON ON THE PC ARENT TOTALLY USELESS
I love that they’re off on an island having their own fun now. lol.
I love how Rowlet’s evo is like, “Woah dude, don’t touch the hair, kay?”
I really hope we get alternative final evo’s for each starter because i know some male fans will be dissapointed of popplios fem look.
who cares, you cant please everyone
Dunno if anyone already posted this, but Battle Bond is indeed its ability.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90664a23eacbbc8be5b91c8e1c7f8c761e185d01027ff44b6dbfd127657f0bd7.png
So it seems that it’s a special greninja that becomes ash greninja
“Powered up thanks to its bonds with Ash” … Ok, then why the hell does it transform when I use it? Now when I use it in battle, I’ll be like, “You’re thinking of HIM aren’t you!?”
It may just be referencing the anime
still doesnt make sense actually how can it bond with Ash when he is not there, I understand that its an anime event pokemon but still sounds a bit stupid
They just call it Ash Ninja for consistency. But it’s bonding with the current trainer.
If there are more Pokemon that can change form then I’d imagine the ability will be the key to it all. More Pokemon will likely have it if it’s not just a Ash Greninja thing.
Am I the only one who constantly thinks Greninja is part fighting type, it always surprises me when I’m reminded that its part dark
Its a ninja that uses swift and cunning moves to beat his opponent, it screams Dark
never said it didn’t… just said that I personally always see it as fighting until I see that its not
!!!!! ASH GRENINJA! My son is in the games, this is the best news day ever. :”) Can’t wait for the demo oh my goshhhhh and you can do things with our boxed mons?! Yeah I’m not going to make it to November, I’ll burst from hype before then.
For all you financially inclined trainers Abita of advice, don’t fight Dartrix unless you’ve got a good lawyer.
“My Dad can own you in 2 SECONDS!”
Lol
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c87a08a03447c3c7a1422bde5e61e68d3e7a87992deb28494bf25a14c554933b.jpg Now the starters line is all but complete
I can’t believe it, they all line up perfectly. So many people were convinced those were fake…
I taste something sarcastic
Nope, they seriously do line up perfectly.
u craycray
Explain why they don’t.
Denial goggles work wonders.
They don’t line up “perfectly”.
Eh, I think the only starter line that lines up “perfectly” in any game is Bulbasaur’s. He just keeps turning into a bigger Bulbasaur.
Look at Wartortle: he has fangs and wing-ears and a fluffy tail and turns into Blastoise who has none of those features.
Charmeleon is a different color that Charmander, and then changes back to his first color at his final evo.
And then there’s the best example:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MCJZrW713-4/UmGKIBk3xFI/AAAAAAAAA-w/PhcZ8J5Fzx8/s1600/chespin+(family).jpg
I’m just hoping the secret they share with Rockruff is alternate evolutions because… Because… TORRACAT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL! DON’T RUIN IT! PLEASE! T.T
God, I really feel like only Popplio’s match. Roulette’s doesn’t at all for me, and Litten’s is a big leap
The individual parts of Litten’s matches up, like the front paw becoming bigger, the bell being the beginning of the belt, the fur in the face becomes longer and the tail becomes shorter and clubbier, etc.
I actually agree with you… still having my fingers crossed that Litten’s final ends up being awesome.. OTL
i agree. then again i am honestly hoping they get the same treatment as rockruff did with version exclusive evolution’s…..they just don’t fit. idk maybe its just wishful thinking but i can see why they dont fit apart from rowlet
Brionne looks mentally challenged
Ignorance is bliss
You look mentally rude.
Triggered? I didn’t belittle no one with my comment but regardless of what politically correct people try to shove down our throats, mental disabilities are still bad, in the sense that they deviate from what’s healthy for us. So yeah, she does look retarded (now you can call me rude)
Saying the r word is offensive so I should be calling you rude. AT LEAST.
Retard
We’ve got a cat with obvious mental issues and I call him our “tardy cat”. He’s like a Down’s Syndrome kid. Out of all our cats, he’s the most playful and fun, and the household favorite.
I wouldn’t call a person retarded, like how I wouldn’t go up and bother a crossdresser, but I might rag on Brionne’s super-femininity a little bit.
tl:dr; This is a cartoon animal. Chillax.
Torracat plz no (Dartrix’s evo is cool thou)
I think Brionne lines up the best, then the litten one, you can see brionne’s tail and hair changing and the white starting to come out
that doesnt change the fact that it is bad
we get it… you don’t like it, move on with your life
no
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2a4717fa0ae434e73fade42e2ca1fc24d42b3cec329f755f2792c1423dd79c8.jpg
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Oh just go away you sour pumpkin, not even Halloween has a use for you if you’re going to act like a salty old troll.
Yup! You can tell where they’re gong with the mid stage designs. Litten’s paw become bigger and its animation has it jumping up on it’s hind legs, Popplio’s evo basically got a frilled blouse or dress, and I could see the “hair” on Dartrix turning into the hood from the final evo.
Popplio is my girl but I think Dartrix may be my favorite middle stage
popplio…you disapointed me
Wow that’s sexist, just because Poppolio becomes a siren and it’s a female you hate it.
Who says that’s sexist? Did PumpkinBomb say it was because of the dress? Maybe they just don’t like pop stars. You’re assuming stuff.
If Popplio’s gender ratio is 83% female then I’m sure no one would have a problem. I mean there are Female Emboar and no one noticed much.
Personally Popplio 3 is my favourite, reminds me of milotic
I think a female emboar only needs a shorter fangs, but this looks straight like a human girl,
factsssss
Braixen
this one is also disapointing and weird, I dont know why they compeletly abandoned the gendere diference, it was great
this is exactly the problem, not the gender ratio, the perception, its basically hidden sexism
How?
So you’re saying a male pokémon looking like something most people would seem as a female is sexism?
Where’s Gardevoir when I need him…
no the sexism is that no one bats an eye at say Emboar being predominantly masculine and still having it be able to be female, but when a pokemon thats predominately feminine is introduced first people get upset because they think its far too feminine for pokemon and then the same people want it to only be female in gender I’m assuming to compensate for their fragile masculinity. See the problem, these people don’t care when a pokemon seems overly masculine but when a pokemon seems feminine its deemed inferior by these people and they have trouble accepting it.
You’re incredible at projecting
How men and women typically dress up or physically look like isn’t sexist. It’s culture and biology. Someone needs to watch the episode of South Park where they sentence the personification of reality to death due to him ruining their “safe space.”
There is nothing biological about wearing clothes, that’s a social construct. Who cares if the popplio line is more feminine? No one cared when Machoke, Poliwrath, Emboar to name a few are masculine looking. There seems to be an uproar when there is a possibility that there are male feminine Pokémon such as Delphox, gen 3 Gardevoir, and gen 3 milotic
Meh. I don’t like Beltigre looks either. It looks too masculine. Only reason I’m okay with Machoke is because it was before genders were introduced (save for Nido lines and Kanga).
Lmao I guess you purposefully left out the part where I said “cultural” in order to support your argument? Congrats!
No one is in an uproar now either. VERY VERY literally, Linksdaydream, your fellow SJW, was the one who got their panties in a wad first by saying the gender ratio was sexist. And I said the gender ratio isn’t sexist, it’s simply representative of current human society cultural and biological norms.
I never said Popplio couldn’t or shouldn’t be anything. Jeez. You psycho PC culture police love to pretend you’re all about empathy and love and acceptance but the second you even THINK someone disagrees with you, all of you band together to burn the person at the stake because HOW DARE something think differently than you!
Also, I’m a libertarian, so I inherently believe in individuals living their lives as they damn please, so nice try attempting to strawman, but you failed.
I didn’t leave out culture because that point is also a toss out. Do you know some cultures have males wearing skirts, grass skirts, makeup, and or dresses? Did you know males were the first to wear heels? You see, the thing with you is that you are stuck with labeling people and not understanding what is actually being said or where your points lack informative research. Your reaction to a comment I made in general shows how fragile you seem to be. Idc tbqhwy about your political stance and or thinking you are dragging someone that never personally came for you. If you aren’t bothered by popplio, cool then my comment wasn’t directed at you. So keep it pushing.
Lol this whole response was hysterical and purposefully dodged the whole point. Classic tumblrite.
oop you caught me. yes everyone that has an informed opinion and uses the internet for non trolling purposes has a tumblr. very original.
How was he trolling?
yes the response was hysterical because it put you in your place, lick your wounds instead of throwing your toys out of the pram sorry that feminity threatens your masculinity, Emopoleon basically wears a suit and Tepig evo a wrestlers one piece
I will never watch south park, its trash
It’s trash that exposes everything wrong with this world.
If you think being supportive and kind to others and striving for equality is what is wrong with the world…
HA except I don’t know a single “progressive” who believes in being kind or supportive to anyone different than them. They’re the most consistent people in my life who spew vitriol and hate towards anyone who disagrees with their perception of the world. And that’s exactly what South Park was making fun of.
Listen if you want to bias everyone trying to make a difference because of the mistakes and misguided motives of the select few you have encountered you go right ahead and live in that little box you have made for yourself, I’ll be out actually trying to make a difference in the world and attempting to change things, maybe I’l fail but the point is that I tried, the only person I see being hateful and ignorant here is you. There are certainly bullies on each side its not a perception of who’s better its about ending it entirely to bring forth equality
“its basically hidden sexism”
“I’m assuming to compensate for their fragile masculinity”
“I will never watch south park, its trash”
“these people don’t care when a pokemon seems overly masculine but when a pokemon seems feminine its deemed inferior by these people and they have trouble accepting it.”
Hm. Looks like you enjoy forming a bias against people and things too based on your interactions and perceptions. It’s almost like you’re human. But I’M a terrible person trying to ruin the world for pointing out your poor logic when you said the gender ratio is sexist. And YOU’RE a holy saint who’s gonna save the world through thought policing!
Oh you know what you’ve got me pinned, you’re right on the money, I cant believe I never saw it before, thanks for pointing it out to me… no seriously looks like you’ve got it all figured out so you can stop replying now, because we’re on such different wavelengths we might as well be in different galaxies. When I fucking say these people, I’m actually talking about the people who I have specifically talked to about it, thats not bias. Never said I was better than you, or anyone else, but you keep telling yourself what you want to hear.
lol… you won’t change shit during your meaningless life when it comes to this screwed up world.
Wow…that’s some terrible taste.
I agree, but they had a point on one thing, people are too touchy anymore. People want to enforce their ideals on everyone now or else it’s an “-ism”. Sexism, Racism, Ageism
People need to grow up.
You and your mentality are trash. When I catch a pokémon, if the pokémon looks more feminine to me, I’ll keep it as a female, if it looks more masculine, I’ll keep it as a male. If that’s sexism, I don’t give a fuck and you can shove your PC opinion up in your dumb ass.
It seems some other people need a safe space of their own if a feminine looking male pokemon bothers them.
They are not human anyway, so to put human stereotypes and prejudices on Pokemon says more about the person than it does the character.
Except I never said any of these Pokémon bother me. Literally no one did in this comment thread. You PC types brought literally just now made that up as a means to support your argument because all you understand is how to strawman an opponent when it comes to attempting to be intellectual.
But I would never except a SJW to be able to think critically.
THANK YOU!
But Beltigre looks very masculine in addition.
yes and no one seems to have a problem with it being masculine, I don’t see people rioting saying it needs a gender difference or that it cant be female, thats my issue here
I have a problem with it. Robinroot is the only I like.
Well, I think the Machamp line should be 100% male, for example. Doesn’t mean I’ll lose my sleep over the fact it can be female.
I like getting girl Machokes and naming them Ronda Rousey and putting them in Wonder Trade. It’s hilarious!
Brionne looks pretty fruity to me, however the final mermaid-seal thing reminds me of Wallace, the water gym leader in Hoenn. He’s more of a pretty boy than a macho man, and has a dramatic flair.
I didn’t like Delphox aka “dress fox” for a long time until I started thinking of its “dress” as wizard robes. I mean, it’s got a wand and everything.
Hidden… sexism? The gender ratio of a fucking Pokemon? People like you are fucking cancer, mate.
But Emboar looks more like a female than Popplio’s 3rd evo looks like a male. Popplio’s 2nd and 3rd evolutions look straight up like females. Which isn’t bad, but I think they could’ve went a better direction with it based off the 1st form
I have always loved popplio! I knew they were gonna do it justice with it’s final evos. Brionne is the perfect amount of cute and Popplio3 is simply elegant! I am so happy with this evolution line. Plus if it really is water/fairy thats a really rad typing.
The same with Litten 3, who should be more male then LOL
Agree with Popplio 3, it looks like a mix of Milotic and Serperior
After long months, i’ve come to like the final evos…. i am seeing them as a family… the 3 little kids that my brother-in-love has! 2 boys and a girl, the bang on rowlet… i just saw them haha… the chubby little sister…. i loved the 3 of them….. now in game…. maybe littlen3 can be cool… hehe
I feel like Litten3 is wrong because it looks strange how it starts black and red, evolves into black and orange, and then back to black and red…… I dont like it. It’s to weird.
Take a look at charmander’s line.
Charmander just had a disease when he became Chameleon.
I always wondered why he got one horn in the middle of his head, then he gets two horns that aren’t in the middle. Where’d the first one go? Did it move and another grow?
No different then Orange Charmander into red Charmeleon back into orange Charizard.
No different than Squirtle’s line.
I don’t see it… I don’t believe the finals leaks
You just have to look at the mid evolutions a little closer, and see the pattern that they share. Please note that the mid evolutions don’t seem to fit the basic starters.
THIS!
Look at dewott to samurott, or froakie to greninja. These make more sense than those do in my opinion.
Rowlett: Hair cut covering face becomes hood, the little tuft at the back of its head looks like back of hood, the obvious dart/ archer motif. You see Orange coming into the second evo design which is in the third.
Litten: The bigger cat paws for punching, the tiger stripes on its back which come to the front of his chest when he evolves. The fiery bell becomes a fiery belt.
Popplio: The dress becomes mermaid dress, lighter colour, white on nose spreads all over body. Pink nose
Everything from the leak has proven to be correct, even the Ash Greninja. It’s legit.
Well actually the middle egos leaks were false so……there’s no guarantee those are the final egos.
I see it, all the lines make sense. No wonder the developers were blocking people left and right. I think China will be the new Europe come gen 8 with a delayed release…oh well ???
I’m sorry but IM really not feeling these middle stages, and although the poplio line seems to all fit, I can’t believe that torracat and Dartrix make the huge leap to litten3 and rowlett3. It’s actually quite jarring imo. Torracat is so much like litten, while litten3 is like a total departure. But I guess I’ll have to see the final evos in game before really judging.
But bottom line, these are some really funny looking middle stage evolutions, and I usually love the middle stage
Well this turned into Chesnaught:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/71/651Quilladin.png
Well said!
The second evo bios also don’t help to pull away from these final evos, haha.
So yea, they’re complete.
Pretty Popplio for me!
Yes!I am loving Litten’s middle evo.This is just so awesome!
TIME TO MAKE SHINES >:D
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
“This Pokémon conceals sharp-bladed feathers inside its wings, showing astounding precision as it sends them flying in attack.”
Archer is it not? Just because it doesn’t look similar to Grass3 doesn’t mean that. Quilladin does not look like Chesnaught at all. Keep that in mind.
the 3rd form has the same coloured fetahers in its wings which the art showed it used like arrows on its bow
“Quilladin does not look like Chesnaught at all.” Thank God.
A bit worried about Torracat’s ‘cat punches’. If it’s another fire fighting then I think the company really isn’t doing itself any favours ( and I’m beginning to think it’s intentional :/) I don’t see sun moon forms happening because I’d say the second evos are linked to the third quite well.
I’m hoping for Fire/Dark based on a heel wrestler thing, since it makes sense with the info we know of the Litten final. Plus, I think there’s a good amount of mons who are strong that aren’t Fighting type, but I’d have to look through all the dex entries to see
A wrestler Pokemon weak to fighting Pokemon? That’s stupid from GF. The other Evo for Litten can be dark but the wrestler needs the fighting type badly.
It doesn’t need a fighting type to be a wrestler. Like I said, its resembling a heel wrestler. They cheat and do what it takes to win, which is characteristic of Dark type. It actually makes sense that its weak to fighting, since the hero/real wrestlers stop them.
I think most likely GF knows not to do another Fire/Fighting starter again. Emboar was badly received because of it being the third Fire/Fighting starter.
Edited 🙂
The problem is, a wrestler is such a characteristic fighter. We’ve already gotten a boxer and other wrestlers, martial artists, etc who are fighting type. if we had never gotten a starter that was fire/fighting, this would be the perfect candidate.
YOu are right, which is why I was worried in the beginning, but when I hear about heel wrestlers, I think Dark. The characteristics for Dark type are there. Plus you could maybe stretch ninjas into fighting as well, but their most known attribute is stealth and nothingness, hence the Dark typing.
Kids right? The face wrestler/good guys (Fighting-type) gotta win.
Gotta say, this was about most of the info I wanted. The demo seems cool and I’ll definitely be happy with an Ash-Greninja, but I wonder, could we breed Froakie’s having the Battle Bond Ability?
Also speaking of breeding, that new PC mechanic looks pretty slick, but it makes me wonder, would or could they have integrated breeding into it too? If so that would be pretty rad!
And last but not least, the starter 2nd stages. I like them all, still leaning toward beginning with Rowlet and getting the other 2 via breeding. Still getting my Popplio as a female no matter what, especially with Brionnie revealed. And Terracat, I like it, looks tough and cool! This maybe my favorite set of starters since RBY and DPP!
Probably not, it’s Male, Males can’t pass their abilities down.
Unless of course the Demo ones gender is random.
True, but one could hope. Anyways, I still like my Greninja lol
CAN with a ditto
Gen 6 changed that.
Yes thankyou that has been brought to my attention but it’s still more difficult
Guys the WiFi plaza is back
I love Dartrix and Torracat. Not so sure about Brionne yet…
Ffs these games look huge btw. I don’t think we’ll get bored any time soon
i was about to say that….
it looks huge… even though e have only 4 islands….
every annouciment i think thats a new think…
and ash greninja and a confirmation of some leaks??? humn…
NOT LITten being the best one. FLOPpilo looks like a contestant for rupaul drag race. I know it was going to flop https://youtu.be/TONGXrdL_4M
Popplio is bae
There are some who like Popplio’s evo line, including myself, though.
In fact, because of my growing tolerance for Litten’s final, I like all of them. They really stand out 🙂
It’s quite feminine, and it has a good look to it. I quite like it as well.
If Popplio was feminine i wouldnt mind its evo, but they sold me a dream smh
Now that we pretty much know that the starter evos leak was real…wow, I can’t believe it actually leaked that early. It’z crazy. Have we ever had final starter forms concept art leak that early? Someone’s gotta be getting fired for that f*ck up.
I know right? Not even the Unova starters leaked that early. whoever was in charge of keeping that art under wraps majorly F’d up lol
i believe it was china who leaked them. sooo maybe when gen 8 comes around they’ll get a punishment just like us Europeans….
Next batch of Pokemon Sun and Moon news (I mean we got little to no news right guys XD) will hit on October 14th world wide!
Alright, for CoroCoro I’m definitely going with fossil Pokemon, maybe the Cutiefly evo from the last trailer, and possibly one or two more assorted Pokemon.
I noticed it says “Relive Mega Evolution” and showed the ones from the old games. I think it’s obvious that they won’t make any new ones for Sun and Moon. Thank god.
I’m still expecting a surprise Alola Form Mega Evolution… But then again, that’s probably because my second favorite pokemon is Marowak… Soooo bias xD
Huh, with the VGC ban, I retract my expectations <.<
I don’t there is any new Megas either. I’m just glad the concept is back!
I am sad if that is the case, where are my johto starter’s mega evolutions :(. All the starters should have them
I’m pretty convinced that they’ll have Alola Forms. I don’t know why, but their themes all seem to fit with the island habitat.
I doubt the starters will get alola forms. In any case, I feel it is unfair if the only starters who get mega’s are gen 1 and 3. The rest need more love and it is gen 2’s turn
…save them for DP remakes? (lel – I can dream)
Well if we get DP remakes we will get the gen 4 starters evolution but I am hoping that like X and Y celebrated the Kanto starters that Sun and Moon celebrates the Johto starters. Unless we get another gold and silver remake which is fine by me XD
So Join Avenue is back… and better than ever
More like the WiFi plaza
Switching from team Rowlett to team Litten (for the while)
I dont like that preppy boy-looking mid evo
Me arriving at the #popplioisoverparty https://magnetforfoolishness.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gif15.gif?w=640 (rf)
Spill the t
My preferred starter actually changes depending on which stage is in question
Basic – Rowlet
1st Evo – Torracat
Final evo – Mermaid Popplio
same! I can’t wait to see official Sugimori art for mermaid Popplio. Gonna be as gorgeous as Milotic.
Same!
Basic: Litten
1st: Dartrix ( I love how it’s going through this teen stage…)
Final: Mermaid Popplio
Basic: Popplio
1st Evo: Torracat
Final evo: Popplio3
For me, you gotta swap Rowlet and Popplio ^.^’
so megas are banned from VGC 17
Is that speculation or fact?
The main points of the Pokémon WCS 2017 rules are
Double Battle format is limited to Pokémon that appear in the Alola Region Pokédex (excluding some Legendary and Mythical Pokémon).
Use of Mega Stones is not allowed.
Only Pokémon that can be obtained in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon may be entered.
That’s cool. And smart.
read that on serebii….
humn… thats interesing… its the no new mega proof for me
They just know Mega Kanga is gonna be the meta again if they allowed it… plus they gotta highlight the new mechanic.
Arghhh why is November not here yet!!
Welp, as far as Ash-Greninja goes, I thought if it was introduced into the games, it would have another name. However, since the game made it where “Ash-Greninja” can be used by other trainers, now I’m wondering about the anime. An upcoming episode has “Goodbye Ash-Greninja” in the title, and I assumed it just meant the ability, but now I’m thinking Ash-Greninja’s going to leave. I know the game and the show are different, but that’s just where my mind went.
Hmm Wifi Plazas, Join Avenue like feature? A lot of love for Gen 4?
Also, how funny would it be if our Tucan Pokemon was a Gen 7 evolved form of Chatot? Or are there any other Gen 4 Pkm in need of a new evo treatment?
So pumped to play the demo!!!! I’m sad it’s two weeks away, but at least we got CoroCoro to hold us over!!! lol
Torracat?……I didn’t know wat Torra hint in english but in Japanese Torra mean tiger ….so it’s a tiger cat. http://www.cat-breeds-encyclopedia.com/images/xTiger-cat-full.jpg.pagespeed.ic.doY0cjeO-h.jpg
I wanna kiss its fuzzy belly
Oh wow I was just thinking about that too.
I want the final evo keep “Torra” in his name.
Well, to be accurate, it’s tora that means tiger in Japanese.
The torra in Torracat’s name most likely has a connection with something else.
wat is it?
It’s def not it but torrar means to roast in Portuguese lol
Not sure yet. I usually get etymology/name origin info from Bulbapedia, but they haven’t put anything up for its English or Japanese name as of now.
the very second i saw Dartrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reop2bXiNgk
You levitated?
Leviosaaaaaaaaaaa
Its fabulous, dont hate
popilo is the pop star pokemon
https://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lho9edpjF11qeh1g1o1_500.gif
FAIRIES!!!
I might send my starter to that island as soon as I catch a rockruff
Poke Pelago reminds me so much of the Sinnoh Underground.. I LOVE IT
What about Festival Plaza, it’s similar to the Wi-Fi Plaza from Platinum and HGSS.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d14b35b982fccdc1342e242106cc0de8019cf485cd24ed124b367f5737e94029.jpg
All Three Bird Starters are here
Huh, idk why… But I wish they were all in the same gen.
They would have a nice synergy. flying is strong against fighting, fighting is strong against steel and steel resists flying, isn´t it also super effective against flying? It wouldn´t be completely perfect but pretty cool nonetheless.
Replace steel with rock or ice, and it’ll work.
Empoleon could rock the Ice typing just fine, in fact.
Squad looking right ??
Hmm they have banned Mega Evolution for VGC 2017… that will make things interesting!
My opionion:
Dartrix: sooo cool. Really original and funny.
Torracat: well that’s just a bigger Litten. Originality: 0. Not a fan.
Brionne: cute and funny. Love the mermaid it will become.
I dont understand how it being bigger means it not original lol
Cause there’s nothing new. I mean it’s the most unuseful first evolution ever. I mean at least Charmeleon changes colour. I cannot even tell which one is the evolution among them looking from far
It’s quite different actually..
The Bell, the “facial hair”.. how the front legs seem bigger (+claws) than the back legs. It’s general face seems quite different, specially the eyes and mouth.It has an aggressive and cool look to it. I’m glad it looks like that.
What if instead of Ash Greninja its the players name? BootyEater69-Greninja for example.
It’s given to you by Ash in the demo.
It says a certain character doesn’t it? Not ash explicitly IIRC… I’d rather we didn’t have weird canon mixing…
Welp guess I was wrong about the starters yesterday, Rowlet’s evolution is priceless XD
Looks like we get the Key Stone and a Mega Stone from Dexio. Also, it looks like you buy the Mega Stones with BP. Also, here is the bottom screen!
EDIT: I think the BP is if you want extra stones!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e6600ea976c6c03a316fb603983a63a6b7d04cba8cb65c87a9f0e1000d6a1a1.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ced6eabb0cc5387e6cfcfcefe2af8ab064bfa68db0861dec612b60d64c53f64e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/205a6e505644d1219051cc31ce2f0ba405b890c2e747acf532476a7eb1791154.jpg
Someone translate them please (I think Paul can read Japanese).
1st – Pokemon
2nd – Shikan (or Pokedex)
3rd – Bag
4th – Report (or save)
5th – I think that one is Wireless Connection, due to the icon, but not sure
6th – Festival Plaza
2nd – Zukan, actually
Yeah, realized it after I typed my comment xD
I can read most of it:
Pokemon Pokedex
Bag Report (Save)
Quick Communicate
the last one confuses me, but Festival Plaza makes the most sense (the Katakana reads FeSuSa-KuRu… though I could be remembering my Katakana wrong, because it’s been a while…)
EDIT: Tried typing it, フェスサークル is definitely FeSuSa-KuRu… whatever that’s supposed to sound like, I have no idea.
You read the last one right but I can’t for the life of me figure out what it stands for except for Fes being short for Festival.
Nah the katakana you’re reading is right, it just might mean something else in Japanese
From what I can possibly guess, it means something like ‘Festival Circle’ (Direct translation)
OH, CIRCLE!
Stupid-ass loanwords. They could just have used the Kanji for circle.
丸 (maru)
Yeah, but maybe they thought it would look/sound weird with maru, but I dunno for sure.
Plus, most of the time, the kanji has the hiragana underneath (it is for kids after all so it makes sense) so it would be hard to do it here, I feel, and make it readable
Ah like they never used the kanji for route. Ok then.
On the other hand, they are making kids jump through hoopas and learning loanwords. :p
Well, there would be some kanji that have learned before (like common kanji) but there would be a good amount of them that they would do it for. And it’s just my guess really xD
True, but they have a lot of loan words (heck, it’s why katakana is still around after all, to write them down) so it’s not as bad as having an unknown kanji maybe that has no hiragana underneath and kids not knowing what it says.
MOM WHAT DOES 丸 MEAN?
Yeah this game should be PG. I mean if the kids have to ask mom what war or a superweapon is in XY, might as well add some PG-level kanji…
There’s a lot of kanji that the Japanese use everyday (like over 2000 if memory serves), expecting a school kid to know all of them and recall their different pronounciations is kind of absurd.
Omg. I can’t believe I didn’t pick up on circle quicker hahaha >.<
Tbh,
I found the 2nd half of the menu shown to be more interesting: Trainer
Card, Poke Resort, Poke Refresh, QR Scan (why does this need to be so
prominently in the menu?), Battle Video (moved away from key items?),
and Settings…
Honestly, I think FesCircle is just a pun and Japan suuure loves its word puns. The English word festival would be フェスティバル (pronounced fe•su•ti•ba•ru) in katakana while FesCircle is would be フェスサークル (pronounced fe•su•sa•ku•ru). The two sound and look somewhat alike.
*Sigh* Cmon, we have to get mega stones with BP? =_=
I think you could still get them from NPCs and the environment of Alola. I think this is just if you want more stones!
IF there are new megas, I think that’d be a good route. Maybe get the new ones around Alola and buy the old ones with BP
If thats the case, then I’ll probs only work hard for Charizardite X and maybe MewTwoite X and Y.
But I do hope the rumored Battle Frontier allows for more fun obtaining BP as it seems the new Wifi Plaza only gives us Festival Coins.
I’ll probably only work hard for the one if the BP yeld is anything like the past.
I HOPE good moves are not locked to BP’s either, its erked me when Iron Tail was only through the Battle Maison -O- why kill its TM GF, why?
im gonna guess this is the confirmation no new megas?
That and the VGC ban
I do not like obtaining Mega Stones via BP. 64 is insane, the Frontier better have a greater BP yield.
UGH!!!!!! Having to buy the mega stones using BP is gonna be SUPER annoying…….
BP! My kind of currency! Battle ____ here I come!
Goddammit Game Freak!
You can also obtain some mega stones from people too.
I feel worried and pleased at the same time. Somebody send me a doctor. I need help.
After reading its description I have a new found appreciation for Dartrix. I still like the other two more, but I love Rowlet basically evolves into an anxiety teenager hahaha
Not really anxiety teen, he looks like a rich preppy boy.
Damn auto correct….I meant angsty…..an angsty teenager lol
thats what I thought too, then I heard it stores sharp things in its feathers and I was convinced its a pokemon with some issues
Trainers better bewear of this Pokemon having some major emotional problems lol
More like young Leonardo Dicaprio… Which is what I’m naming mine, Dicaprio
So Rowlet got a weave and an eye infection
Litten got a choker
And Popplio just put on a dress
I’d this trailer only further supports the leaks, the leaker mentioned Ash-Greninja would be in the game, now that’s true. Brionne totally looks like it evolves to a Mermaid, and Drartrix’s Pokedex entry states it stores sharp feathers in its wing (just like the archer in the leaks) and how it strikes with precision, also it makes since to go from darts to arrows. I didn’t like Brionne at first, and Dartrix just looked strange to me, but now I love Dartrix and Brionne is starting to grow on me.
Someone below said that Torracat’s describtion is LuchaLitten or something? Its Fire Cat on the website though
Oh they meant that its description relates to the leaked final evos of the starters.
They killed Mega Evos with the 64BP s****
Who? What? Where? Who did what and where?
lol. That feeling when we jump to conclusions without knowing everything. I’m quite sure you could get every stone in Alola without that. I’m assuming it’s for if you want more stones!
Why would you want more stones?
Trading and if you don’t want to find or send stones!
64 BPs??? For the price of watching a YouTube video on how to find Mega stones?
Going on a treasure hunt only gives you one of each though.
I want them to make Mega Stones tradeable and storeable on Bank
lol I currently have 1000+ BP
I agree it’s very excessive.
Even though it’s not the most elegant way to do so, at least it makes them feel properly “earned” this time round. They keep talking about how mega evolution is a rare thing that requires a close bond between pokémon and trainer, yet you can use it as soon as you catch a pokémon… I know it would be annoying to have to max out a pokémon’s friendship or affection to mega evolve, but at least that would make it feel like a valuable thing, and make you actually choose which megas you want as you’d have to invest in them.
So at least in SM it seems you’ll have to earn most mega stones through a lot of battling, and I think that’s something. It’d be a bit convenient for the stones to be hanging round alola too. A lot of people are probably just gonna gen the stones in, but hey, at least some of us will work hard for them. And hell, I’d rather grind through battle spot than have to collect an obscene number of flags for Aarune to give me a garchompite…
Months ago I told that the anime was creating things apart from the games for the first time in Pokémon history. In that time, I thought Ash-Greninja and Zygarde formes was those creations. Now is clear that Zygarde was meant to be in the Z version (the myth, the legend), but Ash-Greninja confirms my theory. The first Pokémon created in the anime is coming to the games.
what?
Mate do you even have a clue what you’re saying?
Dartrix
Half dart
Half trix
Maybe hinting at split evos?
Sinnoh confirmed
silly owl trix are for kids
Ok finished the shiny predictions here
http://i.imgur.com/K1oPmBv.jpg
AHHHHH <3 🙂
Brionne was like the hardest because the green i did for poppilo didnt suit it at all
Reminds me of the Shiny Kalos Legendaries.
I love that Brionne is the Pop Star Pokemon. I’m certainly thinking more about using Popplio than I was when it was first announced lol
Moment of silence for those who were against Ash-Greninja in-game. Genuinely in tears
I’m against anything greninja
Protean leaves permanent scars, I get it
Nah, it’s just ugly
SHUT YO MOUTH!! HE IS NOT UGLY AND DON’T CALL ME SPOILED/ BUTTHURT
I’m right there with you. I don’t understand the craze over tounge ninja
Hey. At least it isn’t achieved through Synchro Evolution.
Tears of joy.
Synchro is the same as Mega, without stones. I never once thought it would be a seperate thing. I always figured Ash-Greninja would be distributed through an event somehow, but this comes close enough
It’s just gimmicky one-off fanservice. Don’t worry too much.
I was weirdly on the fence about this, because I was absolutely against an expanded concept of synchro, but since ash-greninja had started appearing in spinoffs, I definitely wanted it in the game. In this case battle bond seems to be a weird one off, and honestly I’d have preferred if they just made it mega-greninja and left the weird bond thing to the anime, but I’m kind of apathetic to it as it is. It’s just very confusing how they refer to ash, and how it bonded with him, and looks like him, but how it’s bonding with the trainer… This seems to be a very inorganic way of including it, but hey, it’s better than pokéfusions or whatever. I do have a creeping feeling it might only be setting us up for a future expansion of the battle bond concept, but I hope I’m wrong.
Not only does it have that crap name.. it loses Protean.
I’m sure this new form will give it a 100% 5-hit on Water Shuriken and a small boost (speed and attacks).
I really dislike that Ash is now part of the game somehow.. what a drag.
What I hate is that the demo will probably be the only way to get it and I won’t be able to transform my XY Greninja into Ash-Greninja.
I think all the last stage starters will get a new signature move.
Rowlet3: Arrow Quill
Litten3: Blazing Press
Popplio3: Luring Song
Apparently, according to the text on the anime art, Litten3 gets a new signature move called Beast Swing/Tiger Swing. Would make sense for the other two to get one as well
Would love if they were also dual typed like Flying Press 😀
What are orgins of their names? Does anybody know?
Dart=archer
Torra=wrestler
Brionne=Mermaid
Tora is tiger in Japanese. Also torridity means extreme heat.
Brionne is brine+sea lion. Also maybe the ‘on’ bit comes from ondine, which is french for mermaid.
Dartrix…uh…darts, like how it throws its quills at opponents? Not clear on that one tbh.
Does anyone like me find it odd that we see a lot of Spearow but we have yet to see a Fearow? Could that be a tease for something, or was Fearow shown and I missed it?
So apparently there is an Ice Stone in the games!!! I really hope it gets more use than just vulpix
Where’d you see that, timestamp-wise?
serebii tweeted it out
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/783301634009030656
Maybe it can also evolve that rumored Snowman Pokemon?
I knew it!
Now if only my Glaceon theory gonna be proven right… I can say “I told you so”
do you mean that glaceon and leafeon will switch to stone evolutions?
That’s what I want. I mean the ice stone and moss stone having to be a map feature just for one Pokemon (each) is silly. <3
Or it could just be the leaf stone
I agree. Glaceon and Leafeon should definitely evolve through the use of evolution stones. A Leaf Stone for Leafeon and this new Ice Stone for Glaceon. I wouldn’t even mind if the way Espeon and Umbreon evolved changed; evolving through the use of a Sun Stone and Moon Stone, respectively, except the stones would only work during the appropriate hours (dawn~day for Espeon and dusk~night for Umbreon), removing the need for them to have max affection towards you in order to evolve.
Just checked and the Ash Greninja form being achieved by way of ability is another Point towards the one 4Chan leak that talked about Oricorio and Bewear! lol
“Mom, I’m going to the mall with Jessica and Brionne!”
WHO CAME UP WITH THAT NAME
It’s a place in Normandy O_O
Brionne and Meloetta have to duke it out now for best pop star Pokémon xD
Yea. With BP, I’m quite sure the Battle Frontier is coming back! Get hype! (hopefully)
:3 If thats what maybe revealed in either Coro Coro or the 14th info dumb, I’m HAPPY!
Do you think there will be more Pokemon with the Battle Bond ability other than Greninja?
I think there will be. There’d be no point to make an all new ability for just on Pokemon that isn’t even a legendary. I imagine it’ll only be a select few, but there will definitely be more.
In balance sake I hope chesnaught and delphox do too, but we’ve seen they don’t care about fairness giving Charizard 2 Megas
There are a number of non-legendary pokemon with transformation abilities that are exclusive to them o.o Like Cherrim
I completely agree. Most starters are definitely good candidates for that. Personally, I am hoping for a Battle Bond Dragonite. About time it got some attention, especially seeing how many people are slowly giving up on it getting a Mega or Alola Form.
wait if u pick up ash’s greninja pokeball, does that mean the anime ends with ash chucking greninja’s ball far into the ocean?
Well, there is an episode title coming up that says, “Goodbye Ash-Greninja”… So maybe? xDDD
The current speculation is that it will be released to be protector of a ninja village, I think?
my idea is better
Debatable. :p
Of course, it can break free and just save itself.
Really? He’s just going to let his Pokemon go?
No wonder Ash never wins.
Right? I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt and hope Greninja just loses his ability… But Ash is an idiot so maybe not. I rewatched the first anime and he released or tried to release like half of his pokemon at some point
The anime only exists for the soul purpose of selling their merchandises and advertising the Pokemon to what they can do in the game. Little to no point now with the newer games showing more of the Pokemon’s expressions.
RIP Ash-Ninja.
Man. Poke Pelago, Festival thing, Pokesnap, possibly Battle Frontier and maybe a post-game episode like in ORAS? I have a feeling they’re going all out with Sun and Moon. So hyped!
And UB’s, the…seemingly evil Aether Foundation, the starers, and the enhancements made from XYORAS seems to be a great way to maybe end a Gen for Pkm on the 3DS too!
it all comes down to this~
That hot fireball/bell thingy around Terracat’s neck reminds me of the belt that Litten’s leaked final evolution wears.
Holy shnitnzen gruvben you are right, they look very close if not identical to each other o.o
You know, I hope that, for the first time since Gen 2, that all the starters just keep the type they started as the whole way.
Not really.
Grass3: Grass/Flying (that checks out)
Fire3: Fire/Dark likely.
Water3: Water/Fairy likely.
All I said was “I hope” what’s not really about that? If I’d been declaring they will be then sure, but I wasn’t, just saying I’d like it
Still hope the split evo starters are true. I’d be down for a Grass/Psychic Rowlet
Yea. I doubt that leak is even real. Yet, don’t lose hope!
Wait, what leak is that from?
It was on Bulbapedia Rumour Page! It’s an “interesting” rumour with pictures. It has almost no validity currently.
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/
That moment when Brionne eats its candy and then does that cute move at 1:08 and you suddenly fall in love.
..and it’s a male.
Didn’t they say next Corocoro will reveal Type:Null’s secret? If so, I suppose that will also be covered on the Oct. 14 reveal.
Possibly, Corocoro usually leaks around the 11th every month
Oh CRAP I just thought of something!!!! So in order to do the bond forms your Pokemon need the Battle Bond ability. That means that the starters likely won’t get that kind of transformation. that means they still have a different secret. I’m still banking on it being split forms lol
I’m still hoping for version exclusive final evos. That would be a big surprise, and it would be something they share with Rockruff.
Since Charizard had two megas I’m resigned to future starters having unequal attention or gimmicks. Ash-Greninja being another that has it’s own gimmick that the other two starters didn’t get.
I honestly can say I’m super legitimately surprised by ash greninja, I never expected him to end up in any games. I hope they give a good explanation
”A special transformation that only occured once before in Kalos over a 100 years ago” I never doubted it wouldn’t be in the games
A fire dark wrestler that is weak to fighting is just plain ass stupid.
We already talked about that below, no need to repeat it. <3
Not everybody is able to keep up looking at the amount of comments haha
Like I said down there, the heel/cheater wrestler is weak to the real wrestlers/heroes. Makes a nice dynamic.
Makes a nice dynamic, yes. But still I don’t see how a heal FIGHTER that FIGHTs dirty gets dark type only for being unfair. **** dark type.
I mean, thats what the Dark type is though. It’s characteristics are playing unfair, cheating, and being ‘evil’ in the way. It’s why Japan considers it the ‘Evil’ type and why fighting is super effective against it. Heroes beat out evil.
You know… Dark type has all the cheating-like moves. You know, Pursuit, Feint Attack, Sucker Punch/Sneak Attack, Assurance…
That’s why I love dark type: the SCAMS https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ad9f569a31108e94695fc65c9ba1be5e70700cb2dc245e428de56ed7ee6b6f1.gif
I see this Pokemon learning Sucker punch,knock off maybe but not being Dark and since when did the commentary about Pokemon really mattered? I see thi Pokemon learning flying press, bounce, thunder punch maybe, defiantly at least 80% of fighting moves. Damn monkey and a chicken get fighting and a wrestler who does it for life gets Dark? What annoys me is that Percyespeon kinda make sense and that game freak might pull off a gyarados, charizard or an alolan exeggcutor nonsense type combos.
When will the next CoroCoro leak?
Likely around the 11th or 12th.
Thanks
I really hope Ash gets Rowlet. Main man needs Dartrix
14th October is the next leaks
Reveal, not leaks
that’s what I meant
If it’s gonna be a leak it’ll be before the official one.
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1475589219004.png
Yup.
It’s unuseful. They would not believe them even if Masuda himself revealed them as true. Same story for 6 years: They don’t like the fire starter, then the leak must be fake.
Not that it must be fake, it’s that we won’t accept it till it’s finally annouced
You mean you don’t want to accept the ugly true until you are forced to.
yeah and is that a problem? I prefer to tell myself litten3 doesn’t exist
oh No, no, please, no problem…I’m starting pretending too after reading this:
“The cat punch that this Pokémon can dish out with its strong forelegs is extremely powerful. It can bend iron bars and knock out large men with a single blow!”
I’ll only forgive Gamefreak a bit if litten3 is indeed half dark. I was originally going for Litten (I love it) but I didn’t want a tiger on steroids 🙁 Then I chose popplio because it’s final evo is actually cool, then Brionne comes along (it looks mentally challenged)
You can use Popplio until level 31, then evo to Brionne, then evo 1 more level to Popplio3.
I’d only do that if I had an eviolite. I might have to learn to love brionne because I need that popplio3 so I can kill all litten3
Well, I did “Braixen forever” run in XY… it’s not hard.
edit: but then again neither is XY…
I think the worst thing about litten3 is that friggen gray chest. WTF is that. Looks like shit
Ugh yes totally agreed! Why is he so damn disproportionate !!!
It just occured to me that Rowlet’s evolution line does seem to be based on famous british characters.
Rowlet – Though name means arrow, but it may also sound like J.K.Rowling.
Dartrix – Has a hair style similar to one of the doctors in Doctor Who. Wait! Darlek!
And finally Sherhood seems to mirror Robin Hood.
Is the name of Rowlet3 confirmed already?
no, but it seems to be better than Robinroot for some people here.
Queen Rowling
first I’ve heard anyone call it Sherhood, interesting name to call it
So many salty genwunners on Facebook. Love their bitterness
A game I have no interest in IS CHANGING !?!??? /S
AJBDKHBKJBKJSBF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT REAL FANS LIKE I AM, EVEN THOUGH I PLAY/LIKE THE FIRST GAME WHILE THEY LIKE THE WHOLE SERIES
I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST, LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS…
TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE…
I WILL TRAVEL ACROSS THE LAND, SEARCHING FAR AND WIDE…
EACH POKEMON TO UNDERSTAND, THE POWER THAT’S INSIDE…
POKEMON! GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL…
Looks like the final evo leaks are true… As we can see the dress like veil for Brionne and the claws compared to hind legs on Torracat. The owl is something else, but I like
And I am TOTALLY going to waste many hours in that Festival, cause I want dat clothing!!
Anyone believing the Gummy Leak it seems to be unconfirmed. Here’s why:
The second evolution names are not Rotalon, Blaline and Enteeal.
Mega Evolution seems to not be locked to the post-game.
It’s the leak with the Grass/Psychic, Fire/Poison, and Water/Fighting Moon Form Starters. Basically, any Pokemon leak mentioing the NX or another Generation is always fake.
Legendaries and mythicals are excluded for Battle Spot VGC?
Why on earth does Dartrix look like it belongs in Panic! At the Disco?????
Now I’m imagining Dartrix singing ‘VIctorious’…..best image ever xD
I just died ????
still team rowlet <3 <3 <3 <3
i’m back from my walk any news
The Spain site leaked a Ice Stone
link?
Let me find it on the Serebii Twitter
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/783301634009030656/photo/1
https://twitter.com/pokejungle/status/783301202549190657
U wut
Wow what
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/783301634009030656
Ice stone for those that missed it
OMGGGGGG THIS MEANS NEW ICE TYPES!!!
Or how Alolan Vulpix evolve….
And Glaceon..?
Ice Rock
Yeah, But I think having a map feature just for the evo of one Pokemon is silly. This is a possible change. And they might have Eevee evolve to Leafeon with Leaf Stone, too.
I mean, while I hope they personally do that, they could just as easily make umbreon and espeon evolve through the use of sun and moon stones, but they won’t because its become their staple at this point
Grandfather Clause never stopped Milotic from having an alternate evo path…
Using Sun and Moon stones for them to evolve would be silly, as all new games have a clock.
Adding a place for Glaceon and Leafeon to evolve could however easily be avoided with the use of Ice and Leaf stones instead.
Yes obviously, but I doubt it’ll be just for them
Perhaps the rumoured Snowman Pokemon?
I doubt they’d changed Glaceons evolution like you said.
Yes please, I want snowman. But not necessarily Ice/Ghost although I love Froslass
I don’t think we’re getting that many new ice types, I mean, the only place with snow in alola is that mountain top.
Yup but surely there’s room for at least 1 new line. Snowman needed
I skeptical about the snowman, I mean, how can a Pokemon snowman look good?
I was wondering how Vulpice was going to evolve
I saw the spanish trailer and didn’t see that..
Demo requires 400MB/3100 blocks
Das pretty big lol
I’m still getting it
i am a little disappointed that i’ll be stuck with a Greninja
but unless Gamefreak has learnt from their past mistakes, dataminers will datamine the crap out of that demo
Well you don’t HAVE to take it you know lol I’m sure if you want you can just leave it on the demo.
You speak the truth.
Or you just wait another month for the full game
Or not. I hope everything leaks (except things involving the storyline)
HISSSSSS EARTHEN NEED ALL INFO
THEN EMBRACE THE UNLIMITED POWER OF GRENINJA WITH SPIKY HAIR AND OVERGROWN SHURIKEN
Well actually that’s not bad surprisingly said by me
i mean its bad and it hurts but Battle Bond means no Protean which was half the reason that thing was sent to ubers
but as nice as this sounds this will probably not be the case since people would most likely use normal Greninja rather then ones with Battle bond so it changes nothing
Probably exchanged Protean for an increased stat total…
Err yea its probably just to please fans. I mean Greninja is massive in Japan, so they obviously anticipated to that
Well yeah that goes without saying hahaha
How do you know? 😮
Because its on Serebii twitter
The Poke Pelago reminds me a little of Pokemon Conquest when you’d instruct your armies to either train, bond with more pokemon, dig for gold etc. This is gonna be really useful.
I’m actually really glad they made this feature. It makes you feel like your boxed Pokemon are actually living their lives rather than being stuck in a computer all day everyday lol
i mean game wise they’re code but that is true
i usually see it as a blissful purgatory
Have they ever been officially declared as data when in the PC? I feel like it’s one of those things people just assumed as it’s…well a computer lol
Definitely, and it’s finny considering Prof Oak’s cousin will be in Alola, I wonder if he’ll be in charge of the Poke Pelago like Prof Oak is in chatge of the place Ash visits in Pallet Town to see his Pokemon.
He’s a very British owl.
I think his evolution chain is Harry Potter => Doctor Who => Robin Hood
As one person says in a comment here
http://kotaku.com/heres-what-the-evolutions-of-pokemon-sun-and-moons-star-1787389865
JK Rowlet => Doctor Hoo => Owliver
holy ballz new info on the 14th that’s next friday/ten days/two days after my birthday
And since Coro Coro may leak before that, it might have info on Type: Null!
not might
WILL it was confirmed that Type: Null’s full power will be shown in the next issue of Corocoro
oh shit my birthday is day after demo
the sad thing is i got absolutely nothing to look forward for
no new games, no new nuthing,
the only thing to look forward is stuffing my unquenchable maw with raw fish
You can buy yourself overwatch loot crates…
i don’t even have it yet, i’ve been focusing on Warcraft: legion i had no time to buy it and torture myself with it
so far 4 level 110s (the level cap) but so many to go, today was gonna be either a Shaman or a Monk Day
4! You’re crazy.
I’m guessing you don’t raid and stuff?
When I still played wow I mostly collected weapons and armors of different design.
Like I made one of my pandas look like Mario with a shovel…
dude i am a RPer and collector and a Altoholic my goal was get everyone to cap and their profession cap
And i love being a pandaren
Xenku Brewbelly
The 14th IS my birthday!
Mine as well!
I am SO surprised that you’re a Libra.
My birthday’s on the 19th. Ayy~!
WAIT, didn’t the Riddler say something about Ash-Greninja? Did he make an update yet?
lemme check rn
nothing new
Hmm, well we wait lol
No that was somebody else, but they called it ”Z-Greninja”
New rules for VGC 2017. No megas and only Alola-natives it seems (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed216128bf20144f865f4ad6f0078cb2b0e3e27484d01fcb8cc8298388e0bd50.jpg
Lol thanks for posting pic i literally posted text box
those are the rules i love!
That’s how it is with every new generation, with native mons.
For those who were in denial it’s settled, those final forms are real. But now it’s even sadder that the cat’s final will end up like that, because its second stage is beyond adorable.
Ps: popplio second form is even more embarrassing than the final one.
I agree with what you sad about litten but popplio3 actually slays
Well, glad you liked it, I for one think it’s almost as bad as the wrestler
Dude, I totally Called it! Just because the Z-Ring doesn’t make sychro occur doesn’t mean Something Else doesn’t. . . 1 thing i knew! hehe
Also..
I think best is..
Base Stage Litten
1st Stage Popplio
2nd Stage Rowlett
Demo for the game will be coming out a month before it’s official release.
I’m not kidding, it’s on the 18th October.
two weeks from now
Mmm I hope they learned from the last demo and took out/hid everything in the main game. I don’t want to have to go dark so soon, there’s still news to see. ;_;
Well….maybe a little stuff to be purposely leaked? Like maybe the names of the final starter evos?
From what I read, it seems the demo is 400mb.. which is 150mb more than ORAS’
I’m wondering if the demo will be later for the UK, possibly October 23rd instead, considering we have to wait till November 23rd, or whether it will be a worldwide Demo release
worldwide demo probably
Here in Portugal the games are only out on the 23rd too and the portuguese trailer states the demo will be out on the 18th.
Yeah Europe in General, thankyou for clarification
Was it mentioned if the Demo will be on the eShop or go out the Trainer Club like the first ORAS demo wave (which was kinda silly imo :/)
Popplio I knew you’d be a good choice 🙂 so damn cute!
Popplio’s second form look kinda slow, if you know what i mean… And by the way, this is clearly going to be the very first gen that the grass starter will be (by far) the most chosen one. It’s gonna be the charizard of this gen.
Serperior?
Not even close. Somehow many people loved (and chose) samurott.
Love them both ^^
I wasn’t a fan of samurott, but got obsessed with serperior. One of the best starters, no doubt.
Serperior sucks! It’s so basic. It’s literally just a snake. Nothing even remotely interesting about it…
“Popplio’s second form look kinda slow, if you know what i mean” I’m dead x)
Can’t say the same for competitive battling scene https://media.giphy.com/media/wv89eetV1HbFe/giphy.gif (rf)
Right? Grass/flying is basically waving a white flag and screaming “critical hit”.
So wat the secret that starters hide?
Maybe the battle bond ability idk
Does Lycanroc have Battle Bond?
I think maybe split evolutions depending on which version or they have their own exclusive Z-move
If this whole Heatigre thing might be the Heel wrestler Pokemon in an alternate universe i would nickname it after the greatest bad guy wrestle man in fictional history
ladys and gentlemen i give you
Strong bad!
http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/48/StrongBad_3D_variation.PNG/180px-StrongBad_3D_variation.PNG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSYrUSY5-ns
Battle Bond almost sounds like an ability though.. what if no protean ;'(
it is an ability so no more STAB whatever
you don’t know it is. .. plus the starters may have this as well along with ability
Ash-Greninja
CATEGORY Ninja Pokémon
TYPE Water/Dark
HEIGHT 4’11”
WEIGHT 88.2 lbs.
ABILITY Battle Bond
:0
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ash-greninja/
Welp. .. doubt people are gonna use it then. .. unfortunate
its only for this greninja you get from the demo dont worry
I know but I was hoping it was competitive
Pretty sure it’ll have increased stats to sort of make up for the absence of Protean. I dont think its a purely cosmetic addition
It will be competitive, since its stats will be buffed more or less. Just because it won’t have protean doesn’t kill off its viability.
Torracat makes me think of Jake/Razor from Swat Kats, and the final evolution Commander Feral.
Somebody MUST make a Pokemon version of Swat Kats.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/356e52143a6d7661bb9a985fbd98f894a9abafd5e03031a626502f3bac6154b0.jpg
Ash-Dartrix incoming in the anime. Dat describtion <3
All we need to do is CoroCoro to release more news…
Yes, my lovely Altaria can retain her mega evolution! Im so relieved! Also, i think this pretty much is the nail in the coffin for poor litten. Popplio, you are now officially my starter of choice this generation.
Denial coons on suicide watch (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a68293253332429e4a158466be30194a3e5ece3cf96b01b48f9f457b09478ba.jpg
I’d’ really like to know why GF makes a massive point of delivering final fire starters they already know it’s gonna be deeply hated and it’s the perfect opposite of what the fans have been wanting for so long. It’s like they gloat over the frustration and anger of the players.
I never chose the fire starter. I saw a cat, fell in love with how adorable it is, and got my hopes up. I dont even care that it isnt fighting, it just looks like the same old thing done from gens 3-5.hugely disappointed. Popplio’s final form makes up for it though.
^^^ The only fire starter I have ever liked tbh was Cyndaquil, I was always water myself with the occasional grass
Ive only ever used the grass starters. My favorite fire starter is Delphox, but even then i like chesnaught way more.
I kind of feel the opposite. I love Infernape and most fire starters (except Emboar), and Litten’s final is growing on me every day.
Sure, would have liked a majestic, 4-legged tiger, but this design is different and I can appreciate it.
I definitely think it’s supposed to be annoying. To stick in your head, generate publicity, debate etc. People can say as much as they want, oh it’s unexpected, creative, or whatever – perhaps it is these things individually- but it is definitely very similar to a lot of fire starters we have. If I were game freak I’d make next gen starters completely free of the fighting time. Like even chesknaught being fighting was annoying. Same with dark and psychic, we had those in Kalos together as a much wanted set, so let’s start looking at other types for the starter evos! Electric, poison, normal, ghost, ice, fairy, bug, rock….
It would be interesting, maybe even necessary, but sadly i don’t think they would go that way. Regarding specifically the fire starter they more than proved to have a really limited and stiff approach.
Or maybe it’s because they expcet us to not be so immature about designs and create what they want, looks like they failed.
I’ll comment on this reveal later as I don’t have time to converse with you guys right now, but I just want to say how infuriated I am at how many people are making a certain connection with Brionne’s expression and a mental condition. I’m even more furious at how many people agree with them and laugh along. Mental illness is not something to throw around lightly like that; poking fun at it is a very toxic action that could negatively impact another user here.
Yeah tell me about it. I have a sibing i care very much for who has a mental illness… I try my best to ignore them.
http://pre14.deviantart.net/a478/th/pre/i/2016/278/0/5/dartrix__torracat_and_brionne_by_kelvin_trainerk-dajz2a5.jpg
http://pre06.deviantart.net/b3a1/th/pre/i/2016/278/9/d/inktober_2016_day_4__alola_starter_evolutions_by_pixelated_takkun-dajz2n2.jpg
The fan art is real
Fan art always helps me like them more
I am thoroughly impressed with all of the 2nd stage starters, though Dartrix and Brionne have be my favorite two. Wonder if people will change their views on the starters based on its evolution’s. Also, maybe Popplio’s line will be split evo, since the last time we had a feminine 2nd stage was Kirlia who had the split final evo. Regardless, I’m extremely hyped for this!
Although it wasnt split till a gen later.
The leak is definitely real, if no one believed it already.
Just think. Two weeks and we could know the names of every Gen VII Pokémon/Alolan forms. Bring on the mining!
Luckily Mega Pokemon can’t use Z-Moves, well apart from Rayquaza, though I doubt we can get Rayquaza till Bank is updated next year.
Although while it’s not a Mega, Ash-Greninja can use Z-Moves, and that’s basically a Mega Evolution but not at the same time.
It also means you can have a team with Both Primals, 1 Mega and Ash Greninja once Bank comes out, unless Primals stay in Gen 6
Congratulations! Your Rowlet evolved into an emo preteen!
What about their names, do you guys like them? I have mixed feelings about them. Torracat is kinda cute, but Dartrix is very weird. And Brionne sounds like a person’s name (probably a black girl in harlem).
About the names, I would really love some etymology on them. Dartrix most likely comes from dart (throw darts, blow darts, ammo for crossbows) and tricks (rogues play tricks and use bows/crossbows). I have no idea what the torra in Torracat comes from and know even less about the origin of Brionne.
Right? I’m a bit confused as well. These names aren’t very catchy.
‘Tora’ means tiger in Japanese
Yeah, I know that, but torra is what’s in Torracat’s name.
Torracat is fine. Has a nice ring to it even though I don’t understand where the “torra” comes from…
Dartrix sounds edgier than it should be for an emo preteen owl
And brionne… Bless this poor child’s soul… At least it’s final evo is a bad ass mermaid
Tora (not torra) is Japanese for tiger, so it could be a play on that. Dunno why they’d add an extra r though.
That new Draco Meteor animation looks dope.
Also awkward moment where Protean Greninja will be way better than Ash Greninja. When GF don’t realise exactly what made Greninja so popular on the first place.
Also I don’t really care about any of the new features, and the starter evolutions don’t exactly fill me with joy. Looks like the leaks were right after all. If I had to guess I would say we are getting Grass/Flying, Fire and Water/Fairy for the starter final evolutions.
either Fire/Fighting or Fire/Dark
and i still pray that sea lioness is pure Water or even Water/psychic anything but Fairy
I’m actually thinking the Fire Type will be Single Type since we’ve only ever had One Fire Type starter (Typhlosion) without a dual typing.
because it had no other attributes
it’s clearly going to be Dual/Typed either Fighting or Dark
It’s not that clear to me.
Popplio final evolutions is more clearly a Fairy.
i still don’t base everyone on looks alone, all of them have some kinda fairy correlation minus Azumarill because that never needed to be a fairy and now causes me unrelenting stress and misery
Water3 might be a complete Water-Type. Yet, I doubt that. It looks like a Water/Fairy to me. I don’t think it’s Water/Psychic at all.
I’m still confused on how everyone “knows” protean greninja will still be better. We have no idea how this form affects stats? It could very well boost greninja’s speed and att/so.att or defenses. It will potentially be able to outspeed any of greninja’s counters or survive any hits from its counters. I think it’s a bit early to be making that claim
becuase nobody will bother knowing they can get away with STAB Ice beam or STAB Whatever
STAB Doesn’t help you much if it’s a glass cannon firing it. Greninja’s base defenses don’t really allow it much time in battle. All it has going for it is speed at that point. And since it can only have four moves it becomes easy to get around its stab hits. A little prediction here, a little planning there and boom.
Although I supposed I’m biased because I’ve personally never had any trouble dealing with protean greninja and therefore never saw why he was such a big deal
The thing is by the time you’ve figured out the moveset, it’s already taken a chunk out of your team. Unpredictablilty is key factor in making Greninja so strong
If and only if they boost Greninja’s stats to the same amount as a Mega Evolution.
Do you know how strong gaining Stab on each move is.
Greninja would need 183 base Special Attack to do the same amount of Damage with Ice Beam and no Protean.
Again, I’ve never had a problem dealing with protean Greninja so I just don’t get most people’s fuss over it. Stab on anything is cool, and unpredictability does play a part. But it’s only unpredictable to a degree. Greninja’s move pool doesn’t allow it to learn a damaging move of every type, and some of the more unpredictable type moves it can learn aren’t very good. Most players use ice beam as you’ve pointed out, scald for burn, acrobatics, and grass knot/rock slide/thief/dark pulse. Pretty predictable if you ask me…
You forgot two common moves, Gunk Shot and Low Kick. Greninja has quite a big move pool and can be unpredictable if played right. It’s not supposed to sweep entire teams, but weaken checks to other Pokemon or clean up late.
Whether or not you’ve struggled with it or not, I have personally used and been on the receiving end of a well played Greninja, and can attest to its strength and unpredictability.
But fair enough if you’ve never had a problem with it. But the point about Protean Greninja being better than Ash Greninja still stands.
I’m pretty certain it’s Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark, and Water/Fairy. Litten3’s leaked concept art talks about it fighting dirty.
and that’s what i likes about it
i need a warrior who’ll fight to his last breath and do whatever it takes to win
also the belt omfg i love the belt of fire it just works so well for it
Where is your honor! xD
my honor is promising my opponents they’ll be broken, singed and defeated
Fair enough. It could be. But I mean we’ve only had 2 Generations where all starters had a dual Type (4 and 6) and never 2 generations in a row.
Probably shouldn’t be looking for a pattern, but it’s just a feeling I have that at least One of them will be Single Type.
Hey, on the bright side, they could possibly have more than one evo… I’m not crazy about the idea of version evolutions but it gives me hope that I can get something aside from El Tigre
They probably know what made Greninja popular. But they chose kids popularity instead of competitive popularity.
I hope they give us the ability to use HA capsules, for once I’d like to keep the first Pokemon I got and use it for online battles and max its Ivs
Might be nice, but it’s almost pointless too since we have the bottlecaps and you can just breed a pokemon with that hidden ability really quickly. I feel like there’s got to be another way to get HA pokemon this gen though. Gen 6 had hordes and the friend safari so I bet there will be some new method in these games. Hordes will likely return though but horde pokemon are limited
i still can’t believe everyone is so lenient with Bottlecaps
thinking that they’ll just be able to fork over a handful (which they think will be easy collectibles) and just magically waltz in and make their pokemon perfect on the spot
my theory is they’re mondo expensive and hard to get, like a ton of BP or FC for one silver and even more for gold which might be only exclusive to rare events
And don’t forget you still gotta breed the right natures and moves and ability and get them to 100 to even use the service
Ive said a bunch of times that I doubt they’re easy to get. But that doesnt change the fact that there is still probably going to be an infinite number of them available to you as long as you have the time and effort to get them. Natures, moves, abilities is so easy though, especially if you have a living dex.
So long as the option is there, then it’s fine. I’d rather spend time working to improve my pokemon rather than just throwing it away for a master race version. The HA and nature thing still bother me, but hopefully we won’t have another greninja case where the HA is mandatory.
At the very least, it’ll add hours to my game, which I love. Maxed out the timer in XY and had over 800 in BW1.
They really had to go and choose the derpiest pose to use as Brionne’s official art, huh
Popplio is just forever derpy, even the mermaid is awkward-looking to me because (assuming the mermaid evo is real), the artists insist on having them all stand on their tail at some point. I know performance seals actually do this, but it’s still weird looking.
Sketch preview of mah new pic
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/559a17c0c42864c6a5f3b26f51d93a0d265eefb3819965841ea452fbb319dabd.jpg
These make me want split evos even though I doubt it will happen
The video was going well until the mega evolutions…
I like the stage 2 forms of all the starters, but Dartrix and Torracat don’t look like they match the leaked stage 3 evolutions, only Brionne does. At this rate I’m thinking that whatever I pick I’ll stop it evolving into its 3rd form.
I love the Festival Plaza and Pokepelago.
Probably two of my favourite features.
I like them more than Z moves, the Ultra Beasts and possibly Skull and Aether.
Kind of disappointed at mega evolution returning.
Ash-Greninja is going to be annoying, hopefully people will forget about it by next generation.
Seriously.. Ash Greninja is the worst thing to ever happen to an actual Pokémon game. Specially since it’s named that way. Losing Protean might make it viable in Smogon’s OU again.. if that’s worth anything.
I love Pokepelago, and having 6 different Battle Boxes!! Page said you could even assign one PKMN to different boxes. I like having several teams ready to brawl and this is great!!! Also, rental QR codes.. so much stuff in this games.
Yeah, if they’d called it “Bond Greninja” or something I’d be less annoyed, but I don’t like them tying the anime that closely to the game.
I don’t use Showdown/Smogon much, except for smogon’s articles about how the battle mechanics work, but that’s mainly because they interest me as a programmer.
Yeah, Pokepelago is definately the most positive thing to happen in the last few weeks.
I love having nice relatively easy ways of getting evo stones.
Multiple Battle Boxes will make things much easier.
It kind of feels wrong that I’m more excited about the minigame stuff and the locations than I am about the story, region forms and Z moves.
Well, the small “fixes” to these games are always one of my favorite things. The rest tends to be just hype.. like Mega evolutions.
Yeah, for example I’m genuinely going to miss gyms.
I’m willing to give the trials a chance, but I’m expecting to be wanting gyms back by the end of it.
The main story is usually over pretty quickly anyway, after that it’s the minigames and side stuff that’s going to keep people going.
Besides, the more diversions from the main plot that are available, the longer the main story will last.
Part of me wishes they’d lock some of the story off until a fixed amount of time elapses or the player’s team has an average of a certain level to force the player to slow down a bit and enjoy the scenery. Speedrunners would complain though.
Yes, most likely, I’ll feel the same about Gyms. But still, after the surprise in Mt Silver, must challenges have paled in comparison ever since. It’s hard to have a build-up for every character (like with Cynthia)..
I think it’s more about impact than amount of time.. which isn’t bad either, and yours isn’t a bad idea.
I love TORRACAT!! And thank god that leaks are fake.
I love torracat too! I’ll be really sad if the leaks are true because there so much potential for a different direction
It’s not fake…..look at TORRACAT neck it the same thing that Litten3 belt.
yea the paws are a ded giveaway
i see as it evolves
the bell spews out a dual stream of flames that wrap around its body like a vortex of flames, its body shimmers white and it STANDS UP HAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA
And I love this Muhahahaaaaa……y ppl think I am evil.
you evil? what remotely evil thing have you done?
i on the other hand have threatened everyone at least once by now
Violence and evil are very different things ……Humans r the most evilest creatures in the planet and that cuz they r the most intelligent……so actually the actual evil thing is the brain.
Ah yes I’m just now seeing the neck collar. But it still makes a huge leap. Really surprised it’s not standing in two legs
making the final stage unpredictable is the new GF Orientation but the leak ruin that for them.
But he’s still quadruped… and a biped cat it’s very weird. I hope they don’t ruin everything like Delphox.
Mate, the front legs have claws and the back ones don’t.. they are also bulkier.
Delphox is awesome, thank you very much!
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Delphox is not horrible guys! It’s just that stupid fucking gown. If it was a little edgier, there would be no problem
The leaks are so real.
I honestly think the middle evolutions support the leaks. Dartrix’s Pokedex entry states it stores sharp feathers on it’s wing just like the leaked evolution, and you can even see in both artworks that they store them exactly the same way in the exact same place. Torracat’s bell looks similar to the leaked evolution’s belt, and the style of the fur on their faces are almost identical. Also Torracat’s Pokedex entry states how strong it is and how it can knock out large men, where do we usually see large men fighting each other? Wrestling, nuff said. Brionne is the strongest evidence to support the leaks in my opinion, it looks very femenine just like the Mermaid from the leak, it’s ears have light blue and white tips, the Mermaid’s hair is the same light blue tone, and has white beads tying her hair. The little tutus look similar to the things the Mermaid has on her shoulders, hips, and tail.
But I don’t know if I like the new Close Combat animation. I miss the pokemon beating…
Every fire/fighting starter has aquaried their fighting traits in their second stage. So with this in mind, hopefully litten3 won’t be a fighting type after all!
its gonna be a fire/dark
Hopefully. But what if it’s just a cruel trick on GAMEFREAKs part ( like before starter finals were leaked) where they raise your hopes then cut them down… a bit sceptical but as a fire starter lover ( I love torchic, chimchar, tepig, fennekin, Litten) and seeing the mess that tepig fennekin and litten turn into really gets my goat…
Oh, and this:
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aE79dGK_700b.jpg
OMG YES I THOUGHT OF THIS AS SOON AS I LAID EYES ON DARTRIX! I knew game freak was gonna pull this stupid shit on us
They came so close lol
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Evolutions got me like
Am I the only one who hates Brionne’s eyes?
I can live with stupid skirts and bally ears, but those eyes are satanic.
YES! Thank you
Me too, they ruin Popplio.
Hahahaha
I think her eyes is very nice touch….I love it.
You mean it. Starter pokemon are never uniquely male or uniquely female.
Well Braixen…even it’s cry was girly. Though Delphox went a tad more neutral, even though its cry is like literally screaming “WTF!?”
Braixen looks like it could be either in my eyes. The face is definately ambiguous, it’s the skirt that tends to sway people:
http://orig03.deviantart.net/455b/f/2016/049/1/0/braixen_is_prettiest_pokemon_princess_by_bubblesishot46853-d9s84cw.png
I think they should definately focus on giving more pokemon gender differences though.
I hate it too
Now that we have the second evolutions of the starters I’m curious to know what everyone’s teams are now? Here are mine:
Sun 1 (Cosimo):
Torracat
Lycanroc
Komala
Oricorio (Sensu Style)
Crabrawler
Jangmo-O
Sun 2 (Aurora):
Brionne
Ninetales (Alola Form)
Bewear
Oricorio (Baile Style)
Lurantis
Oranguru
Moon (Jeff):
Dartrix
Lycanroc
Drampa
Salandit
Raichu (Alola Form)
Palossand
Rowlet
Rockruff (Midnight or Midday, haven’t decided yet. I’m playing Moon, but may trade just to evolve)
Salandit
Water type that hasn’t been revealed yet (The ones so far I don’t really care for unless their evolutions change my mind)
Altaria
And then an Alola form, but I wanna see the full selection before I decide. As of right now it’d be A-Ninetales.
Moon:
-Torracat (as long as the final evo is not Fire/Fighting)
-Mimikyu
-Wishiwashi
-Vikavolt
-empty (Alola)
-empty
Sun:
-Brionne
-empty
-empty
-empty
-empty
-empty
I am quite indecisive with Pokémon this generation because I like nearly all of them so I don’t really want to commit.
Litten, Mimikyu, Salandit, Passimian, Alolan Maroak and Arcanine
Popplio, Comfey, Salandit, Vikavolt, Jangmo-o, and one of the Oricorios. Probably ghost. I really wanted to use Bruxish, but as time went on, I began to realize that it was probably gonna just be a mid-tier, niche one trick pony.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c25bfd877703c63e17fabb540ddaff07018f1d558e4e79ae4d8b2474782991a8.jpg
This one seems the most different, really makes me believe there are two evos
I don’t think they look that different. The fluff of feathers under it’s orange bow tie makes it look like a Tuxedo shirt, and I feel like Dartrix is meant to symbolize a Butler or something along those lines. Dartrix’s “hair” could be what becomes the hood, and you can see that they both store their sharp feathers (Darts and arrows) on their wing the same exact way. Also just remember Dewott to Samurott and they won’t seem so different anymore.
Nobody remembers Dewott and Samurott.
We’ve spent too long trying to retcon them.
*applies more brain bleach*
Samurott who?
Ok I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about Samurott xD
I can see it happening with Tony The Tiger too. People liking Litten and Torracat but despiting Tony.
Yeah dewott to samurott takes the cake. This is nothing compared to that… No matter how stupid
I think Tony the Tiger is on par with Samurott.
Yeah, I see a butler as well, everyone says its an emo
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c60da4e69721f9aaf19d4927c85e2f6b5807faa815f51257ef384e40803f93c.jpg
I am still picking Litten, Every evo looks so great! Torracat does not disappoint!
Torracat is nice, Tony the Tiger is not.
http://i.imgur.com/73Y1H8Y.png
Yeah it’s official. The size increase and leap from four legs to two is just so jarring still to me but as long as it’s not fighting, I’m going to pick litten and stick with it until I beat the main game. At which point I’ll hunt for another enter fire starter to add to my ultimate team. Maybe Blaziken or infernape
I still hate Tony but I’ll upvote for Blaziken and Infernape.
Heck yes,I was not disappointed either
It is the best starter so far imo
i swear today is just another losing streak
SEVEN FUCKING LOSSES ALL BECAUSE OF HAX
10
11
Stop spamming
I am pissed, all day I’ve been losing AND THEY DRIVE ME INSANE
Spam their chat rooms. If you’re talking about the Smogon Battle Simulator thing that I can never remember the name of, I feel like their effect rates are increased compared to the actual games.
These mediocre. I like Rowletts Evo, Litten’s is increasingly generic, and I have nothing positive to say about Brionne except its model is better than its art. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/974fc60d030ca232c4d0729a14bd7ebd0dbbd0530459156142648b3cd9883224.png
These are my favorite starters since gen 4
I like them better than Gen 5 and 6 but damn Popplio’s is ugly
It gets the best final IMO
If there is a Water/steel alternative to it possibly but I really like birds and Rowlett is a bird
Empoleon?
Yes like Empoleon. I’m not a big fan of Fairy Types.
Everyone here agrees Mimikyu is by far the best poke of this generation, right?
Lycanroc is better
Nope.
I like Komala and Lurantis the most.
Lurantis is cool but grass….
Grass pokemon are good.
It’s not my fault they made grass type have so many weaknesses.
pls this is epic https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/987e17a73478067c91813f57991de1e05b701a47dad5100967210a100405eadf.jpg
nope Komala
Komala lovers unite!
I’ll be honest, I like Komala’s concept, ability and design… But I forgot completely about it xD
; n ;
who is komala? :p
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/july_01_assets/komala.png
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/july_01_assets/komala-770×562.png
Mimikyu is the wallpaper on my phone.
I don’t give a flying shit about that little annoyance
Disguise will just be a free Sub and allow it to set up a sub no problem and most likely spam Wisp and do nothing but hide away like a cheap coward doing absolutely nothing yet somehow wins
Its definitely up there, it’ll be on a lot of teams for sure
Favorite? Nah. Top 5? Hell yes.
Mudsdale is still my favorite… Aside from Alola Marowak, but if we’re talking new pokemon and not Alola Form, Mudsdale.
Mimikyu design and concept wise is a really terrific Pokemon.
Eww…
So another Alolan ice type pkmn or maybe another new Ice type evolve with ice stone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ-je7f0MZU
It’ll be how Vulpix evolves into Ninetales most likely. Since originally you needed a fire stone.
It’s not possible they made this stone just for Vulpix…..I am sure there will be more.
Oh yes, I don’t doubt that. Just saying though…
Like the guy said, it might replace the ice rock. Though, that could be wrong since Alola does have a snowy area.
I “think” they can just let whole Eevee evolves with different evolution methods thing go and give it a chance to evolve with leaf stone and ice stone. Afterall, ice rock and leaf rock are just like huge evolution stones that contains enormous amount of energy to evolve Eevee. I’m also for Eevee evolving into Espeon and Umbreon via Sun and Moon stone. Dawn and Dusk stone could also work namewise but not logicwise since dawn stone is exclusive for gender evolutions and got japanese name “awakening”. Morever, Eevee into Sylveon with shiny stone could also work. I kinda want these because it simplifies things a bit.
But I don’t see all of these happening.
And I also think they have to keep location based evolutions since we have “magnetic field” evolutions unless they choose to simplify it too.
Pretty much waht I said further up lol
They could change the magnetic field rules to make the pokemon level up whilst holding the ‘magnet’ item or something. There are loads of items that hardly ever get used that would make good evolution items.
just reached 200 of my hunt of shiny vulpix
i think the plaza looks like the wifi plaza in diamond, pearl, platinum, heart gold, soul silver
I got more of a Join Avenue vibe, though I can’t say for sure since I think I spent about 15 minutes tops in there and then forgot it even existsted.
gen 4 remakes confirmed lol
Finally took the time to do a proper version of my “Litten 3 is Tony The Tiger” image:
http://i.imgur.com/epqnU2q.png
Actually, that’s pretty good
Before I decided to become a programmer I was leaning towards becoming an artist.
Here’s a GLaDOS I drew:
http://i.imgur.com/mPLmWoY.png
And a bad attempt at a fire-grass fakemon:
http://i.imgur.com/FJ0HiLA.png
Urrrrrrrrrrrgh.
If gamefreak had just made a decent final form for Litten, I wouldn’t be here mocking it with Tony the tiger.
Stop insulting my dude.
No, because it’s an awful starter.
I will mock it until they retcon it.
If they don’t retcon it, I will mock it some more.
I’m indifferent to it, though I do get where you’re coming from. To this day I’ve always hated on Samurot for being such a massive, impractical leap from Dewott.
Tony is just another Samurott in my eyes. A big lump of wasted potential.
The only awful thing when someone mock something could be liked by someone else …….No matter ur trying to mock it ….it will be real so deal with it human and I will laugh at u in the end.
So basically we can’t mock anything?
There are people who liked Hitler, if we can’t mock things that other people like then we can’t mock Hitler.
I will mock it for as long as it lives, and as long as freedom of speech is a thing I will be free to do so.
U did that many several time I can’t consider u r mocking ….ur literally spamming.
Spamming would be posting the same thing many times in a row.
I’ve posted this image precisely once, and every other comment has been in reply to something someone said.
Tony the Tiger is what I’m officially calling it since we don’t have a name for it.
Stop this Mr.Pedantic.
You don’t have to reply either for the record.
Pedantry is important, it underlies many legal systems and it’s what makes software work.
(Look who said that) …..Pedantry is important but not in this silly way …… mocking characters while not saying them in the game proven stupid though.
I’m going to keep replying every time you do.
There’s nothing wrong with it because I hate its design, not the way it’s drawn.
No 3D model or recolour could make me hate its design any less.
I don’t mind at all I can play this silly game with u I have no job for today…..let talk about important things …I didn’t mean recolour it but showing its personality and attitude by animation….and I can prove that every body hate Greninja when it leaked as rumor and call him fake and now he is NO.1 in Japan not just cuz the anime he is a good martial to be a hero and popular in the anime ,most of humans didn’t have Long-term eye …..and for me I hate no pokemon but humanz
I actually hate Greninja more than I did originally.
Originally I liked Greninja, then I used it in game and regretted it and now I really don’t like it.
Greninja is only liked because Ash used it. If they gave Ash Chesnaut everyone would like that.
It doesn’t matter If u like it or not ………And ur completely wrong Chesnaut can’t achieve wat Greninja did , Chesnaut have a nice design but not character as much as Greninja…….and animation team didn’t choose protagonist by random.
Greninja doesn’t have character, it’s just a blue frog ninja with a horrible tongue scarf.
Chesnaut could have easily been bestowed with some extra lore.
They could have done the same for Delphox too.
Ur really pathetic …..and shallow ,, ,,, If u think character and personality r measuring by looking good or not that completely shallow …..the horrible tongue scarf actually the best part of Greninja it add a lot of his personality …..ur theory is very fragile …and that’s y most of these pkmn almost didn’t appeared in the anime. https://b8bd7827b7f212bb53a8-b2cc59e0ef85511aa5ed3ad88986348d.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/32700/pokemon_miss_verkiezingen_2__large.jpg
So one minute measuring by good looks is shallow, the next minute a tongue scarf ‘adds to personality’. Which is it?
Greninja didn’t have any personality. It was generic and badly designed.
Delphox would have been a much better choice.
Of course it’s shallow and superficial there is beauty in ugliness there is a perfection in imperfection ……wat scarf add?…..making him creepy mysterious, weird ….all these adjectives together make a good personality and clear character ………Delphox is the best of Kalos starters but this is my emotion ….the big view is not my emotion Delphox can’t hold Greninja position.
Note: u didn’t react on the pic ……u should notice pkmn r just like the actors and not all actors deserve to be protagonist.
So you’re also being shallow by assuming Greninja’s appearance (i.e. his tongue) impacts his personality.
The tongue just makes Greninja’s design disgusting, nothing more.
Delphox could have easily been used in place of Greninja. Most people only like Greninja because Ash uses it and because of Ash-Greninja. If they’d given Ash Delphox and had Ash-Delphox, they’d like Delphox better.
Any character can be a protagonist.
If any of those hadn’t appeared in the Anime it wouldn’t have bothered me
Ur just trying to force ur opinion with out any single prove …when I chat u for the first time I want to tell ur damin arrogant and always want to prove u have the right opinion the dark side of that u have lack of confidence but I delay that cuz ur not bad person and I can’t smell hatred from u . “Any character can be a protagonist” that the shitest sentence I have ever read …and I don’t want to read like this again so stop this I won’t be more bad with u.
I mean, I’m not gonna lie, it has grown on me. I never planned on using litten to begin with, but I never really hated the design. It’s like a rejected character from Swat Kats or something.
Honestly, love it or hate it, guys like him really shine when seen in motion and this gen has some very animated pokemon. My only hope is that his static pose is like a grappler ready stance or a pre lunge pose instead of just awkwardly standing there like many gen 6 poses ended up being.
I planned on using Litten until they turned it into Tony the Tiger.
They’re just going to bung it a ton of generic wrestling poses and references to famous wrestlers that only people who like wrestling will understand.
Hawlucha I could live with, but Tony is too much.
I think Arrowl (as I call Rowlet3) will have diffrent color scheme that on leak. It’s similar to Rowlet’s but overall he is still similar to Dartrix.
OMG! I’m literally getting advertisements for psychic hotlines on this page, “Still need answers?”, hah, I’m totally gonna call them up in tears asking if Litten3 is gonna be real.
you should do that to be funny.
With the reveal of the partner Pokemon’s second form and their detailed descriptions, what typings do we think think their final form will be, AND do we think they will have version exclusive final evolutions? I’m thinking Grass/Flying or Grass/Dark (he sounds kinda dark….), Fire/Fighting (even though I pray it is not) and Water/Psychic or Water/Fairy…
you are acting fire/fighting is bad but there should be a fire/fighting pokemon that isn’t a starter
Personally I’ve never understood why people hate fire/fighting starters.
Gamefreak changed the formula to make a fire/psychic starter and everybody hated that too.
Yet Infernape and Blaziken remain popular.
People are weird.
Delphox was hated because of its design. Infernape and blaziken weren’t hated because they were number 1 and 2. For Blaziken it wasn’t a thing yet. Infernape it was the second time in a row, but that’s forgivable because it’s not a trend then. It’s just when Emboar came it pissed everyone off, no one thought they’d do it another time. It changed from what could just be one of many things done twice in a row to seeming like game freak was intentionally trying to annoy the fans, or were oblivious to what they wanted. Or maybe we just didn’t notice that it was a new tradition for fire fighting starters. But Delphox disproves the last point.
I think people got bored of having 3 Fire/Fighting starters in a row, especially when it wasn’t necessary for Emboar in my opinion.
And before you start saying we have the same regional rodents , birds e.t.c every gen, I tend to think of starters differently compared to other generic Pokemon…considering I like using my starter and I haven’t used any of the Generic birds/rodents ever.
Personally I got bored of having 2 Dragon Type Legendary trios in a row as well as all these Dragon Typed Pseudo Legends….despite the fact that they all are popular.
Emboar is the only exception though.
I think people are transferring their hatred of Emboar onto all fire/fighting types.
I was just making a point that we have those things every generation and yet people complain about something we’ve only had 3 times.
Some of the regional birds I actually like (only about 1 or 2 though), and maybe 1 or 2 of the regional normal 2-forms I like.
Also I’m actually going to miss having gyms, I liked the gym-badge formula. I’m willing to give the trial stuff a go though, despite being one of the more drastic changes it’s one of the ones I’m willing to cut some slack.
I don’t mind legendary dragons, but there are few pseudos that I actually like. I think Flygon should have been the pseudo for Hoenn instead of Salamence. Dragonite is still my favourite pseudo because it looks more like a proper dragon than Haxorus, Goodra, Hydreigon etc.
No, I never said it was bad. We just need to be done with Fire/Fighting starters cause it’s getting really old.
We’ve only had it 3 times.
Besides:
– having a 3 stage bird pokemon every generation is getting old
– having a boring 2-stage normal type is getting old
– having a version exclusive legendary and a tie breaker legendary is getting old
– having a legendary trio every generation is getting old
etc etc
It’s boring to me, I want my Fire/Dark starter.
Maybe if they hadn’t made it into a wrestler.
it’s a Heel, an evil wrestler, so dark…
Wresters aren’t evil, they’re just boring actors with muscles.
How well do you know wrestling? Heels ARE villains in wrestling. That’s their character.
I don’t watch wrestling, it’s boring.
a Heel is the bad guy character in wrestling… and the good guys are faces, hence HEEL-FACE TURN
they only did the bird starter for fire, water, and grass but between all of them rowlet has a flying typing
That’s not what he’s talking about. He’s talking about Pikipek, Pidgey, Pidove, Fletchling, etc
I’m talking about starters… There are how many different types… Lets start switching things up.
Pidgey
Starly
Pidove
Fletchling
Pikkipeck
They’ve also had a few 2-stage birds like Taillow, Spearow and Hoothoot
Out of all of those, only Fletchling broke the mold by being part fire.
They’re traditions though, they’re to some degree expected and part of what’s creates a bridge between generations. Having repetitive fire fighting starters I’d argue is different, because it’s not an established tradition instead just an annoying reoccurrence. It sort of takes character out of the fire type too, if grass and water kept changing types then each final starter is distinguished. Fire fighting wouldn’t get boring and you’d have a bunch of very similar looking starters. That’s my opinion anyway
I’m not saying I dislike them all, I’m pointing out that people pick and choose what they think is repetitive and what isn’t.
Besides, gyms used to be tradition, and until this generation they would also have been on that list.
Besides, they broke the fire/fighting chain and people got upset with Delphox too.
And nobody complained until Emboar was added.
ONLY three times?? We’ve only had 6 generations…. That means half of the fire starters are fighting types
3/6 grass starters are pure grass and 3/6 water starters are pure water.
Also it took them 20 years to achieve 6 generations, so ‘only 6’ is a bit of an understatement itself.
Asuming the leaked final forms are true:
Grass/Flying, Fire/Fighting, Water/Fairy
I see Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark, and Water/Fairy.
A possible ice stone was found.
hours ago, I’m pretty sure its confirmed
Shame they can’t retcon the rules so that Glaceon and Leafeon evolve via Ice and Leaf stone and Espeon and Umbreon evolve via Sun and Moon stone.
I mean, they can
We all know they won’t though.
Psysically there’s nothing stopping them, but we all know that they never would because GF has a horrible fear of admitting they got something wrong or could have done something better.
Example
Well, apart from changing Feebas’ evolution to use a scale instead of the beauty system because the beauty system got removed, they’ve never changed the rules for how a pokemon evolves.
They can always say the ice stone is an extremely rare chunk of the rock that is used to evolve Eevee into Glaceon. Bam. Leafeon would be harder to do though
That’s the point.
If they just let go of trying to explain why it’s working now and didn’t work before and were open to the idea of changing an evolution mechanic without having to explain it we could have all the Eevee evolutions evolving via a stone.
Hmmm. Eevee adapted to radiation coming from moss rock so that the energy coming from leaf stone alone is now enough for Eevee to evolve.
Or the radiation from the Leaf Stone has been amplified
Or they can pull a raichu and just explain everything away via pancakes!
Two words:
Genesis Wave.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/5/5c/Super_Genesis_Wave_explanation.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150603201135
Well if it is real, aside from Alolan Vulpix, it means a few more Ice Types are coming; unless they do use this game to retcon some things. I don’t see why they couldn’t.
It surely opened up a gate for cross generation evolutions if they didn’t already forget about it. Maybe for this generation, maybe for further generations. I can see some old water type Pokemon getting icy characteristics via ice stone.
I think they’ve given up on cross gen evos, we haven’t had any since G4.
Sylveon says hi
Nobody cares about Sylveon though.
It’s the one exception and it’s an Eevee form. Not a very good one either.
Well, we had one, only one… Sylveon.
Yeah, but nobody cares enough about Sylveon to remember, and Eevee evolutions are sort of their own thing anyway.
And screwing around with the Pokemon Amie – Aint nobody got time fo that!
They can but they won’t.
Gamefreak hate retconning things to do with individual pokemon, especially evolution methods.
I agree it implies more ice types though.
How to run the Gamexplain YouTube account
Slap up trailers that have been downloaded from an official channel and slap your own logo on it
Come up with some insane explanations that don’t make any sense
Post info that other people discovered (to be fair most YouTube accounts do this one)
And this is in a nutshell why the only pokemon news I will touch on youtube is stuff from the official channels.
Saaaame. The only other things that REALLY pisses me off are “live reaction” videos
Yeah, I don’t get people’s obsession with reaction videos.
Who cares how some random person on the internet overreacts to news?
Hence I flock to here, where people simply
argue aboutdiscuss what they like and dislike instead of flailing their arms around like a child.Bulbapedia finally put up some name origins! …Although, a bit incomplete as of now.
Dartrix may be a combination of darts and the genus Strix or tricks.
Fukusurō may be from 梟 fukurō (owl).
Torracat may be a combination of 虎 tora (Japanese for tiger) and cat. It may also involve torrar, which is Spanish for roast or toast.
Nyahīto may be a combination of ニャー nyā (meow), 火 hi (fire), and heat.
Brionne may come from brine.
Oshamari may be a combination of オシャレ oshare (fashionable), 鞠 mari (ball), and marine.
http://orig06.deviantart.net/5582/f/2016/278/0/1/starters_evolution_by_diives-dajzhjw.gif
I love that owl!
I…’ll love it more when it evolves. ( ^_~)-b
Omg Dartrix is making me cry-laugh just wonderful thank you…
I knoooow! Dat face! lol
Omg that gif is nice
So about that news on Z-moves that leaker guy said was coming….yeah we never got it
If you mean the riddler. He only said a sceret of the z-ring would be revealed, and now we learn the z-ring can also activate megas.
What a secret…it’s not like people guessed that the minute it was revealed
They didn’t. That’s the thing. Do you not know how many people thought it was gone, or didn’t even think the z-ring could do that? Though I suppose the secret is the z-ring itself functions as a kestone rather than an actual keystone.
I specifically remember people guessing it would also activate mega evolution. It seemed really obvious.
You would think, but people were really depending on trailers to tell them otherwise.
People actually thought mega evolution was gone?
Were double battles removed after Gen 3?
Were Triple battles remoed after Gen 5?
Was the Special/Physical split reversed after Gen 4?
There was absolutely no reason other than stupidity that anyone would think Mega Evolution would not be returning.
You would think that would ya. People’s common sense were thrown out the window for some reason.
Sometimes I think people do it on purpose. Just for the sake of it.
I can’t accept people being that stupid, I just can’t
Welcome to the downspiral of humanity.
Probably the same doomsdayers who keep predicting every pokemon game to be the last one. Ugh.
New mega evolutions. Yes or no?
No
Doubtful
They’re saving them for D/P remakes.
Hey, quick question. How are you guys pronouncing the Brionne?
Bree-own
Bry-uh-nee (like Briny)
I’ve been saying bree-oh-nay like Phione, since that’s what it immediately reminded me of. However, when I showed my friend, he said it completely differently and now we can’t decide.
Bree-own-ay
I pronounce it Brian
Been pronouncing it as Bree-own.
The Briny thing makes sense. Before, I was pronouncing it like “bree-ONN”, like the place in France.
So basically, nobody knows haha
neither, I was pronouncing it Br-eye-own-e, like the first sounds like Brine without the “ne” sound and then “own and an e sound at the end.
Bree-awn
Bulbapedia updated the name origin for Brionne:
Brionne may come from brio (vivacity of style or performance) and undine, a type of female water nymph or mermaid.
…So, I guess it’s pronounced bree•o•neh.
Brio: vigor or vivacity of style or performance.
“she told her story with some brio”
synonyms: vigor, vivacity, gusto, verve, zest, enthusiasm, vitality, dynamism, animation, spirit, energy; “let’s give this celebration the brio it deserves!”
Yeah, that sounds like what I was saying. Well, crisis averted I supposed.
I want to say Brai-own.
I say it like my olds friends name, Bry Oh Nee
Bree-in
Bree-onn
Or possibly Bree-onn-ee
I found some Dartrix concept art online!
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/a/ad/MnL_PrincePeasley.jpg/200px-MnL_PrincePeasley.jpg
Eh, I suppose they’re vaguely simmilar if you squint.
Do people realise how incredible Poke Pelago actually is? Breeding projects and other boxed Pokemon is finally rewarding and have a purpose. Genuinely hats off to GF for this unreal feature!
I love Them all except Dartrix seems like he’s a snobby upper class pr¡ck
That’s exactly what it looks likes to me. Such a punchable face.
And I actually like Rowlet and the alleged Final Evolution. But I guess once again the Middle stage Grass starters is mediocre at best.
My list of them
Torracat (actually looks great)
Brionne (at first I hated now I love it)
Dartrix it’s just meh to me
My list is pretty much the same.
For base stage it was:
Rowlet
Popplio
Litten
First Stage is:
Torracat
Brionne
Dartrix
Alleged Final stages:
Rowlet3
Popplio3
I think there’s only two that matter anyway …
That’s one of the reasons I like him.
Yes I like snobby upper class pricks
Upper class people = expensive wine + nice dinner.
And they aren’t inherantly snobby, it depends how they became rich.
-Starter evos are terrible
-Poke pelago and festival plaza look very fun. Looks like Sun moon will have a ton of additional features
-Mega evos returned. I seriously hope we get new ones
Ash greninja is basically being used as a marketing tool,kids who watch the anime and play the demo will want to buy sunmoon because ash greninja will be in it.
I can assume your not happy with this
Or it’s a troll
Not really.
Only thing I’m not happy about are the starter evos.
Well there is still time for the final ones whether or not the design is different
The leaked evos are pretty much confirmed to be the real ones.
And from the final evos, I don’t feel strongly towards either one. But they’ll grow on me, probably
Like Samurott did?
Like all of the UNIVAC starters did.
I think it’s not true anymore for Torracat cause it would have to be explained “Why does it turn Bipedial?, Where do it’s back Toes come from?, and How does it grow two more fingers?
Since when do GF care about supplying reasons for things.
They made Dewott->Samurott after all.
It’s descriptions heavily implies it’ll become a wrestler though.
Plus the Fire sac thing resembles
Litten3’s belt
“Torracat has a great love for battle and will attack so relentlessly that its opponents lose the will to fight”
I only don’t like the names they aren’t making sense except Dartrix cause what’s Torracat mean? And Brionne… What? The Hell does that mean sounds like a spin off a Popstar name
Dartrix may be a combination of darts and the genus Strix or tricks.
Torracat may involve torrar, which is Spanish for roast or toast and cat.
Brionne may come from brio (vivacity of style or performance) and undine, a type of female water nymph or mermaid.
Ah, I knew there was something at the back of my mind about the -ix that I couldn’t place. I read the Wiki article about Strix just the other week.
Don’t agree with the evos being terrible or share the enthusiasm for megas, but I agree with the comments about Pokepelago, Festival Plaza and Ash Greninja.
Yeh I don’t care much about the additional features.
I think the Fire middle stage is fine, the other two are mediocre at best.
Mega Evolutions coming back is good and to be expected. Unfortunately I don’t think we will be getting new ones.
I like Tarrocat as well, but it’s going to evolve into the wrestler thing so I’m not going to be using it.
Dartrix is absolutely terrible. But archer rowlett seems cool
Brionne ugly, but it’s final evo is fine
Yeh, so long as Rowlet3 is still cool looking to me, assuming the leaks are real. Middle stage is whatever anyway. Only have to look at it for a short while when using it…
Rowlett will be named Alex
Popplio is Idk
Litten is Macho Libre lol
the 18 of october
Not when, How long is it? I never played the demos
maybe the demo is as long as the omega ruby alpha sapphire one but with ash greninja for some reason.
Probably about a few hours worth of play unless they reward you with items for doing more than the very brief story bit.
Totally looks like an Alex
Game Freak actually did it; they made Ash-Greninja legit in Sun and Moon.
The absolute mad men!
Inb4 every 12 year old is using one in all wireless battles.
Better dust off your mega blazikens…
Fire against a water type?
I’ll Freeze Dry it instead.
(Besides, I don’t like megas much.)
Protect, Speed boost, close combat, yadda yadda yadda.
And if that doesn’t work then you can always use your shiny mega metagross
I never use Protect.
I don’t use Close Combat because of the stat penalty but can see why some would.
Speed Boost I can agree with.
I didn’t get a shiny metagross.
Nobody told me about the event until it was over.
Like I said, I’ll just Freeze Dry it with an ice type or throw a Grass type at it.
So those leaked images of the final evos are most likely the final designs. The starters are mediocre to me this region, nothing impressive, but nothing bad. I like Rowletts line. Litten’s is alright but kinda boring to me, they coulda done something cooler. and I don’t really care for Popplio’s. I think they should’ve stuck more to the circus look, instead of going into a siren. and if its going to end up looking that feminine, then they should’ve just tuck with a feminine design from the start. Don’t get me wrong I like Popplio, I just think they could’ve done something cooler with it
“and if its going to end up looking that feminine, then they should’ve just tuck with a feminine design from the start.”
This isn’t the first time this has happened with the starters; Popplio’s situation is basically a type inversion of Chikorita’s.
Chikorita doesn’t look that feminine, it’s the anime that chose to make all Chikorita female.
I know what you mean, but even Meganium and Delfox who look a bit more on the feminine side, could still pull off as being a male. But a mermaid, with long eyelashes, and females hair…theres not really anything about that that could pull off as being a male. Its not a bad idea, I just don’t think it should’ve been wasted on Popplio
Personally I see Delphox as being neutral and think people get too hooked on the ‘witch’ theme and forget that in Japan they don’t make big distinctions between witches and wizards and just use the generic term ‘madoshi’.
It’s clear to me that Popplio is supposed to be based on an ‘idol’ (a female Japanese popstar) in an attempt to attract female players, much like how Tony was a poor attempt to attract young male players.
frfr
Nothing bad? Have you not seen Tony the Tiger?
Tony is awful.
I agree about the circus thing. The transition doesn’t make sense. Also Brionne’s eyes are satanic.
Lmaooo its expected. And it doesn’t really bother me cuz i never pick fire starters. Hopefully he doesn’t come out fire/fighting. but yeah i feel u, they could’ve definitely done something better for him
I picked a water starter once – I regretted it. Probably going to go for Rowlett this time because I’ve never regretted picking a grass type starter (though I’ll admit I don’t like Venusaur and Torterra much)
I’m hoping he’ll be fire/fighting to annoy all the people who actually like him. Plus I have nothing against fire/fighting personally, having actually used all the fire/fighting starters at some point and got used to the pattern.
There are so many good quadrapedal fake Litten evos out there that it got my hopes up for a proper quadrapedal tiger fire starter.
A fire cat/tiger starter would have been my dream starter because I love cats, but they somehow managed to ruin it.
I always go with grass, and I always have a flying pokemon on my team. So him being both, just leaves an open space up for another pokemon on my team so im coolin. Blastoise and Feraligatr were the only water starters I’ve chose. I don’t have a problem with fire/fighting either, i fuk wit Blaziken heavy, but its just unnecessary for that to always be their go-to.
I can respect that, I always pick either fire or grass depending on which looks better.
I never really think about types during the main game, I just let my team change as the situation requires.
Those are the two water starters I would be ok with using too.
I like Blaziken and Infernape. Emboar I can accept people having issues with, but prior to Emboar people didn’t have an issue with Fire/Fighting, so I think in a way people are projecting the issue with Emboar onto the Fire/Fighting issue. As I’ve said to others, they made a Fire/Psychic to break the chain and nobody cared, they still complain about Fire/Fighting.
Plus Gamefreak made a rod for their own back by making what should have been a quadrepedal cat/tiger into a wrestling monstrocity.
agreed
So basically…
Rowlet’s line is Arrow: Pokemon Edition.
Litten’s line is Hawlucha’s enemy.
And Popplio’s line is the second coming of Meganium.
I would have said Robin Hood rather than Arrow.
1 wrestler was plenty for me.
I prefer Meganium to Popplio.
Eh, Green Arrow is basically Robin Hood…in the new age!
Hawlucha is the face so naturally Litten 3 would be the heel.
Meganium is awesome…if only the first two gyms weren’t super effective.
I prefer Robin Hood of the old age.
I take it more people actually enjoy wrestling than I thought. In my country wrestling is pretty much nonexistant.
True, but that’s why it’s a bad idea to count on your starter for everything.
Sometimes I wish they’d try something different like give everyone an Eevee for a starter or give us 6 potential starters instead of 3.
Popplio can be a really strong Pokemon. I hope it’s Physically defensive with access to Calm Mind and a recovery option.
Pop star family:
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Water-starter-stage-638242384
Popplio’s family has just gone down a notch in my appreciation.
Don’t care. It still has the best final evolution.
and probably final typing, too.
U buggin
Ordinarily I’d disagree, but it’s better than Tony the Tiger so I’ll half disagree.
Okay, after much watching, I love Brionne, I’m gonna name it “Risette”, and even if I don’t think much of Litten3, I find the middle stage to be really cute, love the flame bell idea. Rowlet is still my lil baby and I find the awkward emo fringe to be pretty adorkable. 😀
Yeah, Litten and Torracat have really nice designs.
The final form (Tony the Tiger) is the biggest disaster to hit starter types since Samurott.
Shouldn’t that be “Lisette”?
I agree about Rowlett.
Eviolite it up for sure. It’s too damn cute to suddenly be so roided and angry.
Haha, it’s a reference to an idol character called Risette in Persona 4.
Rowlet is the only one of the starter evolutions leaks that I always liked. And even the Mermaid is growing on me. Second team starter for sure.
It probably won’t be tough enough even with Eviolite.
God knows why the localisation team chose to give her that name. Doesn’t really sit right.
Same, though I’ll admit there are still a few aspects of Rowlett’s 3rd form I dislike. I’m probably going to end up going for Rowlett assuming the leaks are legit. If the leaks get disproven or the split evos rumour is true it will depend on what the alternative to Tony the Tiger is, but otherwise I’m sticking with Rowlett.
I don’t dislike Popplio’s line, but I’d probably never use them myself, similar to my feelings about Torterra.
Eh, I just meant for using Torracat in game.
Yeah, a bit of a strange name, hard to guess the pronunciation.
Hmm, I feel the same way about Empoleon or Delphox.
Still, I’d rather choose Rowlett and put up with a final that’s less than what I hoped than prevent a pokemon I like from evolving into something I hate and trying to keep going.
The original term was Risechi, which is pretty straightforward (ri-se-chi). I think localisation teams should be made to have a degree in etymology or something 😛
I’d use Delphox but I agree about Empoleon. It’s an ok pokemon, just not one I’d use.
Oh yeah, I get that, but Risette has just been forcefully burned into my brain by the game, heh, Just doing a 2nd play-through.
Fair enough, my annoyance lies with the localisation team for being the root of the cause.
Not gonna lie I like Brionne a hell of a lot more than the other two. I don’t dislike the other two, they just don’t do it for me. I do like Torracat, but…….I hate myself for even uttering the words………it kind of….looks like a fan made Pokemon……THAT’S NOT A BAD THING!!! There are plenty of cool fakemons out there. Torracat just looks a little off to me. Maybe it’s the coloring? Or maybe because it looks so similar to this fake (rf) Either way I like Torracat and will likely still choose Litten, but muh Pop star has definitely gone up in the rankings lol
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c498bdfa754e51924308e346c05f2022a64b4fce7ee65a894bcccc729901e3f4.jpg
My only complaint about Torracat is two things
My eyes are creepily drawn to its butt
And dos is the name Torracat doesn’t sound like a fiery feline
Oh god…..now my eyes are too!!! lol And yeah I can see that about the name. It make me think of “toro” or bull and that’s kind of a weird bridge to cross into cat territory. I realize its likely torra meaning tiger in Japanese, but still lol
Technically the Japanese for tiger is ‘tora’ not ‘torra’ but that’s likely to be part of the etmology anyway.
As bulbapedia points out, torrar is Spanish for Roast or Toast.
Whoops yeah the extra “r” changes it, but even still still IO’m sure to some degree it’s meant to be part of the name lol
https://youtu.be/AlREUROGwpI
“Torracat may be a combination of 虎 tora (Japanese for tiger) and cat. It may also involve torrar, which is Spanish for roast or toast.”
Does that change your opinion at all?
I think the promenance of its buttocks is just the way they’ve chosen to draw it and the model itself is better. Like they did with Meowth’s goofy sideways face.
There are fakemon attempts at Litten’s final evo that I prefer more than the actual final.
Probably the same for Rowlett if I looked.
I see what you mean about Torracat, it’s not the colouring, it’s the face. Its mouth is really goofy and its arms are drawn to be oddly bulky.
As for Popplio, I don’t hate it, it’s design is reasonable, but it’s one I’d probably never use.
Too cute for you?
http://kspmill.deviantart.com/art/I-wll-never-chose-anything-else-heart-638222279
I freaking love Brionne. It’s so adorable lol
https://youtu.be/YF7fLmIStfY
Every time I’ve seen fan art of it it’s made it look worse. If this keeps up I’m probably going to switch to hating it.
I think what’s bothering me the most is the strip of fur that comes off of its head. If it didn’t have that I’d have less of a problem lol
Fair enough, I agree it would look better without it.
This cat actually can stand up ….is this this blue flame real? I don’t remember I saw it in the trailer. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1475601737187.png
Almost all quadrapedal Pokemon can stand on their back legs for brief periods of time. Furret, Linoone, Mightyena etc
Mightyena? lol
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/88/54/75/885475ad37f0a60b29c30e2930a859e2.jpg
Almost the same pose as what Torracat is doing here.
I think he is just jumping
So does Torracat.
And technically jumping involves standing on two legs for a brief period of time.
Yeah I agree with StarStorm. It looks more like it’s jumping. Either way I get your point. My dog was just jumping up on me in a similar fashion hahaha
That’s what it looks like Torracat is doing too though.
Going from all 4s to two legs involves upward thrust so naturally moving from 4 to 2 will look like jumping if your legs can’t bend at the knees.
Ahh……Mr.pedantic again.
Couldn’t do my job if I wasn’t.
complete ur job away from me.
The internet is a free country.
Only if your country is a free country
Technically there’s no such thing as a free country.
So did anybody remember to check your Pokemiles because the service will be ending soon, this could be your chance to load up on great items at modest prices
https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com
They said the service ends late October and you could get yourself a ton of rare candy, pp up, heart scales and Ability Capsules
If you don’t have much saved up try to buy as many candies and use them all on a Ditto you intend to use as a Hyper Trainer, regardless of IVs and abilities we’re bound to get one freebie gold bottle cap in our campaign and it’s worth it to use on a True Ditto rather a hacked one
I urgently suggest to you all to see what kinda miles you have and reap rewards while you can still reap them
I’m EarthenWarrior and this was a public services announcement, thank you and good night
The Ditto tip is a good idea.
You kidding it came to me the day Hyper Training was announced
Now players can actually get a Ditto with 6IVs legitimately and will never have to hack (but still people will hack because they’re lazy sons of bitches cheaters)
I didn’t think into hyper training much because they haven’t said that much about it.
Hackers are indeed a pain.
Programming should be a tool for good, not for evil. If they want to do something evil, they should hack large companies instead. Or the pentagon, it’s always funny when someone hacks the pentagon.
WAIT. No more Triple Battles? Can’t believe… really sad
Do you know something we don’t or are you making assumptions because they haven’t been shown yet?
Just check in the site
Battle Rules
The three existing sets of battle rules for Rating Battles (Single, Double, Special), will be increased to four with the addition of a new set of battle rules for the Championships Battle format.
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/new-pokemon-global-link-features/
Doesn’t that imply that’s how the GL has always functioned?
And that’s just the GL, not the game itself.
As if anyone actually uses them outside of BW lol
Said who?
I just think it would’ve been cooler to actually sticking with the circus seal design instead of taking a whole different route to where its a mermaid. I like the thought of it keeping the circus idea, and maybe having a ball to attack with or something like that. Shiiii it could’ve even took some features of a clown ???. They could’ve still made it cute, instead of just flat out making it a pokemon to appeal to girls and boys who are more feminine. To me it looks like they jus turned a good pokemon into Samurott’s sister. I like the idea of a Siren for sure, but I just feel like they could’ve made a completely different pokemon out of it, instead of abandoning the circus seal idea
Is there a problem with them making a Pokemon starter that’s a bit more feminine? (yeah we gettin into this lol) The majority of the starters are more or less masculine. There are a few that are ambiguous, and even fewer that are pretty girly, but we’eve never had one that is straight up feminine and I say it’s about time we did. Also the circus idea wasn’t completely a ting. Popplio’s shtick is that it’s a performer. Yes seals are circus animals, but they didn’t have to stop there and it seems they didn’t lol
Chikorita, Mudkip, Piplup, and Fennekin were all appealing enough to attract female players. I Don’t see why they felt the need to go full female. I’ve never heard anyone say “These Pokemon are too manly for me”. I don’t have a problem with it tbh, I just think Popplio could’ve came out cooler, but that goes to a lot of other pokemon evolutions too. But this Pokemon is just as feminine as Jynx, so if they’re gonna intentionally make it female, then the pokemon should be female. I like the Siren idea, I just would’ve rather had them scrap a useless pokemon like Bounsweet(who looks too much like Hoppip and Cherubi) and used the water/fairy Siren there, instead of turning Popplio into it
Well that was the intention for Popplio. It was designed to be a sea lion siren.
It would seem that your complaint is that popplio appears to be gender neutral but then evolves to be feminine.
Not really a complaint, but more of an opinion. It doesn’t really matter to me tbh, i just think the final evolutions could’ve came out with better designs. But that goes to all 3 of them
Opinions, opinions, opinions. Look your use of the word “cool” seems a bit misguided. I for one think both of Popplio’s evos look “cool” despite being more feminine. What you’re saying is all subjective. If you don’t think it’s “cool” then that’s fine, but scrapping other Pokemon just so you can have your cake and eat it too doesn’t make any since. I would imagine that the idea behind Popplio was always what it is and never changed. It’s not like they had a super masculine Pop evo and then decided to scrap it for the siren. It is what it is and you don’t have to like it, but at least let other enjoy the fact that Popplio becomes a more feminine Pokemon. Not every person goes by strict gender roles. The world we live in isn’t black and white.
I never said nobody was allowed to like it. I was just stating my opinion on the matter, just like you’re doing when you make posts. Thats what the comment section is for. How is me stating my opinion stopping anyone from liking what they like? You can’t be that sensitive. Despite what it seems to you, a pokemon’s gender doesn’t really matter to me. It was just the design aspect I didn’t care for. Don’t take it to the heart
Popplio was more of your average performing seal, and as we can see it keeps it’s performer side through and through by becoming a singer and dancer.
Sirens are seen as beautiful, ethereal beings. Circus seals are for entertainment purposes meant to appeal to crowds. Add those two features and you get Popplio3. I personally love the design of Popplio3 and I don’t think they abandoned the circus seal idea. In fact, they stuck with it and added the fairy-mermaid characteristic to add more flavor.
True, but the mermaid traits are more conquering. people refer to it as a mermaid, more than they would a circus seal.
Circus performer + Pop star = Mermaid?
I don’t get it.
Also, for all the male fully-evolved Popplios:
http://static03.mediaite.com/rr/up/2016/02/merman.gif
“They could’ve still made it cute, instead of just flat out making it a pokemon to appeal to girls and boys who are more feminine”.
Wait…what? So people shoud not use Lopunny or Gardevoir or Milotic? What’s the point seriously? Don’t like it? Don’t choose it. Just stop saying bull*hit
When did I ever say people shouldn’t use those Pokemon?? ? lemme know.
All I said was is that I feel they were more focused on making a starter that appeals to females, and missed out on better opportunities. So get tf out my face wit that lmao. Guess i triggered you with something i said
If you don’t want a feminine starter pick Litten
Never said I didn’t want a feminine starter, never said I wanted a masculine starter.
Then pick Rowlett?
I am lol, because I always pick grass + hes flying. But the masculine and feminine part doesn’t determine what Pokemon I choose
There’s nothing wrong with catering to an audience many wouldn’t think play Pokemon. Additionally, there’s no such thing as, “better opportunity,” when talking about designs because that’s all based on opinion and no matter what route they went with: clown, fairy, siren, etc… the Pokemon community, as toxic as it is, will find a way to discriminate because that’s what it does best: hate and not appreciate.
Where is this toxic pokemon fan base at?
“the Pokemon community, as toxic as it is, will find a way to discriminate because that’s what it does best: hate and not appreciate.”
Thats with everything. No matter what it is.
That’s basically every fandom. I was in one once, and I still haven’t entirely recovered. I mean, I’ll come here and say what I like and don’t like, but that’s only because I don’t have any friends IRL to discuss it with.
“as toxic as it is, will find a way to discriminate because that’s what it does best: hate and not appreciate.”
You just described humanity’s entire existance since the dawn of time.
People hate things they don’t like because it’s the human thing to do.
I mean, the majority of Pokémon are masculin/gender neutral
At Gamefreak they must have some problem with colouring the water starter. I remember back in 2013 I thought the same. Why on earth the blue is always that different from artworks? Take Frogadier and Greninja…
Dartrix: simple design, but color pallet doesn’t appeal to me, but Rowlet3 is strikingly amazing so the middle evolution doesn’t matter much to me, 2/5
Brionne: love the cutesy feminine design and I don’t personally understand the hate it gets for being feminine, there’s nothing wrong with it and if you don’t like it, choose something else, there are 3 starters for a reason and 100+ new Pokemon, 3/5
Torracat: the design looks great and am happy it stayed on all fours, plus the animations for Torracat are great, 3.5/5
There’s some thing about Brionnes eyes that I find extremely unnerving…
Must be on the *high* of life.
They just seem like they’re hiding something… like it’s face is all happy and cheerful but it’s eyes seem so hollow just devoid of emotion. Terrifyingly empty…
Oh good, I’m not the only one.
I would describe them as ‘satanic’,
Yeah if it’s final evolution has a dark streak like traditional sirens then I just might change my stance on it.
People always forget the bit where the sirens tried to kill Jason and the Argonauts by crashing their ship into the rocks.
Sirens are evil creatures and should be thought of as such.
It could be more of a selkie though.
Brionne looks pretty cute
me after seeing ash-greninja when in the past i have stated many times in would never happen
http://67.media.tumblr.com/0590f2ef9171d9c120daa59db8f36233/tumblr_ndb4gwvIJW1tfn6k7o1_500.gif
Howling
it left me shook!
Teehee
I’m ok with being proven wrong, the only negative feeling I have is the sadness at such a horrible thing being true.
the only thing i dont like about brionne is the name. It literally sounds like a name you would give to a newborn.
Reminds me of Brienne of Tarth, which is a huge compliment
it reminds me of brianna
Correction, it sounds like something an idiot would name their newborn.
Said newborn would then be picked on for the rest of their life.
Yeah, like a “trendy” baby name.
and lastly, JOIN AVENUE IS BACK FESTIVAL PLAZA IS BASICALLY JOIN AVENUE 2.0 IM SO HAPPY NOW BRING BACK THE PWT
It’s more of a Wi-Fi plaza in my eyes
I personally want another Unity Tower.
black city and white forest? amazing
I think we’re talking about different towers. I mean the one that’s accessed via a ship in Castelia and has a different floor for each nation of people you’ve traded with.
What did it do beyond that? I don’t remember there being much point to it, maybe I didn’t use it right?
Probably didn’t use it right.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unity_Tower
Doesn’t look like it did much to me.
Maybe you got unlucky with who you ran into or something. I dunno, I’ve never even played BW2, let alone owned a copy 😛
You could just go and talk to people you traded with with pre-determined responses. Nothing really useful about it to me.
I dunno, probably not.
The comparison to that place in Sinnoh was probably better.
i never heard about that omg
Battle frontier. 🙁
The last part of Brionne’s dex entry show how is she have very tender nature……gen 7 dex entries r the best.
Why does it have to be a “she”?
Doesn’t have to be, just very feminine so it’s fair to use she. I usually use “it” since they aren’t human but in some cases, it is clear that the designers tended towards a gender for that pokemon
Well, that doesn’t make much sense to label them “it’s” because they aren’t human…. I have a dog and he is a boy dog and we call him a he even though he isn’t a human… And just because it looks feminine doesn’t mean it’s a girl.
Your mind will automatically pick one, whether you choose to or not. That’s just a natural reaction.
And besides, dude, looks like a lady.
If there’s nobody owning the creature I always go for it until I can ask someone who knows or ascertain one or the other.
Dude may look like a lady, doesn’t mean it is….
Sure, but it is just a natural reaction. Your brain sees feminine or masculine features and goes “ok cool that is a boy/girl” Trust me, I know all about this gender shit,
I refer to anything thats not a human or a pet as “it” tbh, feels weird personifying random creatures like that
I think you mean genderising.
possibly, english is hard, I try my best
You’re doing fine!
Fair enough.
To clarify:
Personifcation is about making something abstract into a physical form e.g. the grim reaper is a personification of death.
Genderising means ‘to assign masculine or feminine qualities to’.
And Anthropomorphising means ‘to endow with human qualities’, like what Beatrix Potter did with Peter Rabbit.
I think it’s just Gendering?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genderize#English
I checked before even suggesting it.
Personally I think genderising fits better because post of the -ise words involve the act of applying a quality to something, where as -ing implies a physical action or process.
E.g.
ostracise = to exclude from a group or society
sleeping = the act of being asleep
Hm, didn’t know that.
English is one of the things I take great pride in. My English teachers did a good job.
I’ve suddenly realised I’ve never had a male English teacher. Weird.
Huh… me neither
You mean gendering.
No, genderising:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genderize#English
I did actually check wiktionary before posting.
If you see a dog in the street and don’t know if it’s male or female, do you assume its gender or call it an ‘it’?
I simply call it “Who’s a good boy?”
Even if its mouth is around your arm?
By that point most people would be screaming “let go you stupid bitch”.
Personally I’d stick with ‘it’ and ‘dog’ until someone who could tell would be available to correct me.
“Who’s a bad boy? You are! You are!”
Eh, my convincing is failing.
Very well, continue assuming all dogs are male until proven otherwise ; n ;
This is really a non issue honestly. Just assume gender and if you are unsure just ask. if it is an animal who cares?
We are all animals.
….
It it is not human who cares
I do. My best friend is a cat.
Humans are horrible, they can all burn for all I care. Me included.
I think it is just hard to understand humans. Since we kinda block alot of ourselves out? Everyone has a reason for acting the way they do that may not seem obvious. idk just saying words
Some people are just nasty for the sake of it though – i.e. they genuinely enjoy being nasty.
Besides which, my logic stands that I’ve never had an animal attempt to harm me without being provoked somehow, but I’ve had plenty of humans do so.
Well if you don’t know the sex of the animal and it is an animal then it’s ok to use “it’. In humans, it is better to use “they”, but the point is, it really isn’t a big deal to use she or he. Assuming gender isn’t a terrible sin
I sometimes use ‘it’ for humans, even if it offends people. It’s considered acceptable with babies but apparently people don’t like it when you use ‘it’ for adults or teens.
Assuming gender never used to be a terrible sin, but people get oversensitive about it these days.
Using “it” is just really condescending. It kinda dehumanizes the person you are talking about.
And yeah, assuming gender really isn’t something people should get upset about. In fact as a trans person, I kinda WANT people to assume my gender. 😛
Well, to get back on topic though, pokemon are highly humanized. IRL, animals don’t act in a comparatively masculine or femanine way. Pokemon, on the other hand, do, so it’s not wrong to assign and assume those genders onto them. I mean, within the context of the show, any pokemon is male unless stated otherwise, with a few inverses, like lopunny. The only time this was turned on it’s head was in this BW episode with a purrloin who was an attention whore.
Yeah, pokemon are more… intelligent? IDK what word to really use. I guess I just dont think it’s something to really get upset over
It’s not, and yeah, I think ‘sentient’ would be a better word. That or self aware to a slightly lesser degree of humans. Kinda varies by pokemon, but the less monstrous ones are basically super emotive and relatable.
I dare say the monstrous ones are too.
I can imagine Giratina and Darkrai being intelligent and chatty.
In fact Volcanion, an otherwise hulking brute, is shown to be capable of good speech and thought in the latest film.
haven’t seen the movie yet. Volcanion talks?
I’ve only seen trailers, but yes.
Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
English:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBJ7yENNbTE
Really want to stay out of this but I want to know something. If “it” is dehumanizing and people get mad when you assume gender, then what are we supposed to do? O_0
1. Just use they
2. Im pretty sure most people don’t get pissed if you assume their gender. It’s just blown out of proportion by SJWs and it looks like more people do this. Assume away. If you’re unsure, just ask
One major flaw: you’re asuming all the others are as reasonable as you are.
The stupidity and arrogance of humans never ceases to amaze me.
The internet and the media highlight the worst of humanity. It has no time to highlight the majority of alright people. And if the other person isn’t being reasonable, it probably isn’t worth it to be around that person
I’m not just going by media, I’m also going by school experience and people I’ve met. The only time I’ve ever liked 90% of people in my class was college.
Prior to that there were only about 5-10% of people in my entire year group that I liked (about 200 people).
True, but then I’d be incredibly isolated and alone…
Which I pretty much am anyway.
Hrm, maybe that’s how I got “here”.
I dunno.
Depends how people take it. I wouldn’t be offended at being called ‘it’. I’d much rather people use ‘it’ than make assumptions. (Not that they could possibly think I wasn’t what I am.)
I just realised I don’t like the term ‘dehumanising’ because it puts humans on a pedestool as being better than other species and non-human things.
Only problem with that is people might put you in a separate category. I’ve seen it before, one time all the people in my class waited for this person to leave and then asked around “was that a man or a woman” and they just all settled on other. (Except me because I knew the truth because I used to know the person).
I mean, you can use “it” but it’s just safer to go with “they”. Personally, I prefer ‘they”. And as to the dehumanizing part, I mean, yeah, humans are still animals, but we are also vastly more capable and intelligent. We are all individuals so what I’m saying is using “it” kinda ignores that. IDK.
More capable of creating technology I’d agree with, more intelligent is debatable.
Ultimately the only true advantage we have is the ability to record knowledge. If animals could physically record knowledge without having to just pass it down by word of mouth they’d probably reach at least stone age level in the next few centuries.
If we weren’t able to record knowledge, most major advances like electronics, the table of elements and nuclear power would never have been achieved.
Animals are all capable of different things though. There’s some evidence to suggest certain apes might actually be better at maths than humans (intelligent highly qualified humans who use maths regularly, not just average people who only use maths for shopping).
When everyone is an individual, being an individual is nothing special, it’s the norm.
http://orig07.deviantart.net/0943/f/2010/271/5/1/male_pokemon_petition_by_teamrocketavenger-d2zpc5g.gif
Not only humans deserve she and he ……pkmn deserve more.
My sentiments exactly.
A species, until proven to be exclusively one gender, should always be an ‘it’.
75% female, 25% male
We don’t know the figures until they datamine the demo.
🙁 If they datamine the demo, then I’ll have to leave here a WHOLE MONTH before the game releases.
I’ll have to leave for 5 days anyway because of the US-UK gap.
Let’s not start more gender controversy. Who cares if you call it a he or she?
Actually since “Brionne” in this case refers to a species and not an individual case, it’s only correct to use “it”.
And I for one would enjoy another controversy, they’re pretty funny.
Besides, this isn’t like the Beldum incident.
Eh, I’d rather not risk it. The mods don’t like it and out of respect I’m not going to participate.
Oh wait I already did oops.If it’s anything like last time, they won’t notice for a few hours.
Besides, the Beldum incident was nice and respectful, and this isn’t even close to being as near the line as that was.
The Beldum incident? I really didn’t think that was that bad that it deserves a name. ¯_(.-.)_/¯
I didn’t think it was either, but moving came along several hours later and declared it a bad thing.
I’m naming it because naming things makes it easier for everyone to know what you’re talking about.
I guess. I just see it more of a friendly disagreement/debate than a bad thing.
It was probably the most good-natured discussion about the matter that I’ve seen.
But then 80% of people here are civilised 70% of the time.
And it could have easily gone bad.
I love PokeJungle for that. I guess I’m kinda sucking up but I dont care. Actually being able to have a semi-political discussion like normal, rational human beings is rare on the internet
Yay for tolerance, something we’re not familiar enough with these days.
I like to think it’s getting better. You gotta get through the rain to see a rainbow
That metaphor breaks down if you like rain more than rainbows.
Why don’t more people like rain? ; n ;
God dang it, Pharap I’m just trying to be optimistic 😛
No I agree with you kinda. Rain is nice, but sometimes I just prefer the sun
I can’t escape pessimism, it’s in my nature and my nurture.
If it didn’t cause flooding I’d be happy with 24/7 rain. The sun is hot and annoying.
If there’s no rain in Alola I will cry internally.
I suppose it depends where you go and who is there.
Even 4chan is capable of doing rational things sometimes.
I wouldn’t really call it a political thing though. Politics is usually more about how a country is run, we were just exchanging thoughts about our views of the world.
Pharap. bro plz.
Non comprende 🙁
Cuz it like a she ….and I would like to spoil pkmn.
Let’s all be happy we didn’t get this disgusting monster
https://a.wattpad.com/cover/73774360-368-k731403.jpg
Oh god!!! Destroy it!! Destroy it with anything and everything!!! lol
I dont understand how people wanted this to be real
It’s sooooo creaoy…….It hardly looks like a Pokemon at all lol
I’ll be honest, that one’s grown on me, I kind of like its sinister appearance, it reminds me of Pennywise the drain clown.
What the hell is that? It makes me vomit
I am happy ……but I have similar prediction. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/36e27ed21df93e91f3b6623d3e7c6f6c4b2704e4d31e2b19e30a80dbbd412dab.jpg
Kill it with grass and electric!!!
If you have enough fire it will also work
Get Primal Groundon in here!Make its water power useless!
I like it
Get outta here with your bad opinions! /s
I still don’t understand one thing: Will it be possible to walk around along with other trainers in the Festival Plaza (and during the special missions) or are the “other people” all going to be NPCs that look like other’s avatars?
Probably NPCs, but it’s hard to tell.
http://img06.deviantart.net/fafd/i/2016/278/9/1/hey_by_salanchu-dak008f.png
“Mmmm yess. My daddy could buy your entire family”
I’m almost definately going for Rowlett now.
Thank you for this.
Gaaaaay
Gay and fabulous
(forgot the gif >.>)
https://media.giphy.com/media/IxHgeck5Q7sd2/giphy.gif
Def a bottom
Uh, what?
Popplio3 will freeze rowlet2 ha ass
Yeah what about it? It’s still fabulous as all hell
Dartrix is more preppy than fabulous
On behalf of the 80% of people on this site who are gay: Nothin’ wrong with that dear
I’m gay
Then I look like a dork now 🙂
love the gay
80%? That sounds a bit OTT.
I thought it was more like 10-20%, maybe 30 at a push.
Actually many frequenter here are.
I’m tempted to say we should have a poll, but I get the feeling people would be angry at me for suggesting it.
I’ve always been curious about that actually but it would be a bit out of place
I dunno, demographics?
I’d see no issue with it if it were anonymous unless people started doing something stupid like “yay, homos are winning” or “yay, heteros are winning”.
Ugh, my main problem with this news is the demo, I mean I’m really excited to playing the demo but I know that a data mine existing will tempt me to spoil the game for myself. I don’t have a lot of willpower when it comes to this kind of stuff, I guess I’ll have to pray to Azelf or something.
My bran wants info and info is what i’m gonna get
Same… especially if the Pokemon you use is Ash Greninja…. although, it does transfer over so just to have it would be nice.
It depends if Nintendo are going to do it right this time. All they have to do is wipe loads of data out of the demo.
Besides, us people in the UK are going to have the game spoiled by the US people getting it 5 days earlier.
Personally I’d pray to Uxie. Logos > Ethos IMO
I agree but, to fire some Uxie logos back at you, I feel that as did nothing to prevent rom dumping last time, and it is even doubtful that they noticed what people had done in the west, they probobly won’t take preventive measures. Although I could be giving them too little credit.
I might be giving them too much credit.
I’m convinced that it wouldn’t be that hard to prevent it by leaving the info out.
They’ve probably got stupid rules that would require them to test the demo before releasing it with the data stripped out though, which would make it unviable.
Personally I’d erase 80% of the pokedex and if any bugs or errors come up just pray nobody notices before the actual game arrives.
Megas are banned from World Champions 2017 Series.
THANK. GOD.
I can’t upvote this enough. NO MEGA KANGASKHAN!
Maybe now we’ll actually get some interesting team set ups lol
I love Mega Evolution, but some Megas are way overused.
I brought this up over on the serebii forums a while back and literally everyone turned on me. Never seen such a closed minded echo chamber…
I have but it probably isn’t a good idea to say it
Yeah I like it too, but I’m sick of seeing every team use M Kangaskhan, Garchomp, and Rayquaza……People need to start being more creative…..I can see lower level people using them, but the best of the best should have more imagination lol
Best news I’ve heard all day.
AND WE DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INSTRUCT + M-KANGA
This is interesting though because it likely means we won’t be getting any new megas, not that that’s a news flash or anything, else we would just not be able to use generation 6 megas, by my thinking at least.
This is one cute 2DS! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0942f1fe7f1487ea0ecdba7b6d07180319351cd16f3002c58a03376a5545f9cf.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0c6e765ae6c3579219860820ca90045cbbc6c4ce7af423e016043ea54ef939a3.png
The color is odd. It should’ve been either a bright orange or a cosmic purple, not baby blue. O_o
is this coming to US?
So hey, to anyone interested in character customization… Check out the official art of the plaza.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/df/Sun_Moon_Festival_Plaza_artwork.png
Each character shown, minus a few background NPCs, is in a style we can wear. Note the guy on the upper right with the red dreads (there was a guy with black ones in the trailer)
Still no long haired males, I’m still disappointed.
yeah, and it still seems like girls get more overall options. I played a boy in XY and was shocked when I learned how much more female characters had to work with.
Yeah cause men have no fashion sense
That’s precisely why we should be allowed to wear whatever we want! haha
Boy clothes suck
Men can have fashionable outfits, but usually provided by women
That’s just insulting.
Then you know nothing about fashion, unless you’re talking about in-game clothes. If I had more money I’d buy soooo many shoes, pants, shirts, jackets *cries* (Europe rules when it comes to fashion tbh)
Correction, the stuff they sell to males sucks.
A number of males have a sense of style but the shops don’t cater to it.
Not all
Tell that to Steven Stone and Lucian.
Maybe they will go the animal crossing route and allow for boys to wear girl clothes and girls can wear boys clothes
Yes! Transgender influences! We already have the bi-sexual UB Beauty. Progessive <3
I think trans people would just pick their gender identity XD
It’s good for NB and gender fluid people though
I like the girl in the middle with the white hair and black clothes
Just saw the trailer and WOW! I love Dartrix so much! Torrocat is really cool as well (what’s the name origin? brionne too?), and Brionne is alright. I was hoping for dual evos but there’s still hope! Maybe Dartrix will become an archer in one route and still be a fancy owl in another? Maybe Torrocat will split off as bipedal and quadrepal? As for Brionne, umm, maybe it’ll have split evos focusing on the beauty aspect and the performer aspect? Hmm. I saw a screenshot on serebii where they have BP, so that’s a start toward battle frontier being confirmed (little steps, okay?). The plaza thing seems cool, the poke pelago seems odd, not sure how much I’ll use it. Also I’m kinda dissapointed we’re getting a demo, as it means that my time here before the game’s release might be cut short. I’m leaving as soon as we get any spoilers, so if I get word of the demo being datamined, sadly I’m out. Also the ash-greninja thing seems forced, like it was just put in for the sake of consistency, which is dumb considering that the games and anime are seperate canons.
Watched the first 2 seasons of the XY anime in 1,5 day. I love lazy bed days 😀
If I have the starters
Rowlett is Alex
Litten is John Cena
Popplio is Lady Gaga or Katy Perry….
More like Katy Perry in her Teenage Dream era
Lol
Catty Perry
*Kitty Purry
Also Torrocat looks like a day-one fan art litten evo. I mean, it looks great nonetheless, but it’s just a bigger litten. Also I don’t see how that’ll transition well into Litten 3, but they did it with Dewott to Samurott so idk.
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/176/922/773.gif
I’d cut that hair
No it’s fabulous!
Aww I love it
Dartrix is the best possible evo for rowlet IMO, 10/10.
Brionne and Torrocat are cute and laughed at Dartrix
When I look at Dartrix I can only think of the name “Vladimir”
and when i think vladimir i Think salt
And when I think salt I think Angelina Jolie
well when i was thinking salt it was more on lines with league of legends
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8aaa46e5bd38dc04488cbe0b7751d36ef4a453d65a5c910c6ccb260afb2e9524.gif
just google the name vladimir
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f2f61399a05ceb0fa4784dcd7876e40e1208ffaad80885f6f3a78bc870f901d9.jpg
this is who i mean
I know daddy Putin, but I didn’t get the league of legends reference
http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Vladimir_0.jpg
this is vladimir
♪ Vla Vla Vlad Putin ♪
I’m confused, is festival plaza live multiplayer (like the local wireless room in gen 4) or is it more like animal crossing’s home showcase (that’s the best example I could think of) where you have an npc represent you?
It’s seems to basically be a more interactive PSS with Join Avenue elements
Hmm. Because I was thinking that if we could host plazas, we should have a pokejungle-wide plaza.
Not sure about all of the details yet. I mean, there might be a way to limit it to only ppl on your friend list or something, but I doubt that.
I must say, I love the new rules of VGC. All use of just regular pokemon, nothing more nothing less. Also I love the timing thing. It makes battles more exciting!
Did you also notice the special mention of RBY transferred pokemon? Seems they anticipated fissure machamp
No I did not, but either way that thing would be OP so there was no doubt they would ban it XD
So… what’s up the the “Sinnoh Set” “Kalos Set” stuff in the trailer?
I thought it was outfits maybe.
oh baby plz
Wasn’t it in the same section of the trailer? Don’t know what else it could be.
Also we see one character wearing similar shorts to Hilda’s, though that probably is just the type of shorts…
OH BABY PLZ BEST CHARACTER DESIGN
How about Hau’s shirt? Anybody? No? Just me? Ok.
YES!!
They’re referred to as “Kalos souvenir”, “Johto souvenir” etc in french, so they’re clearly some sort of referential item and probably not clothing. Maybe something to decorate a room/villa?
Funny you can’t see a Kanto one as well… hopefully there’s one in game.
http://i.imgur.com/L1oBYhJ.gifv
My thoughts on the starters:
Brionne of Tarth: Looks better in game, kind of horrifying stare (maybe this is what Espurr saw with future sight), I nothing it.
Tore a cat: I like it, kind of simple, not that that’s particularly bad. I like it’s fire bell collar. Doesn’t really feel that Tiger-like yet, thought it seems to be going from domestic cat to larger slightly meaner domestic cat.
Darth trix: Not exactly loving the hair-leaf thing. Otherwise I really like it. The faces it pulls are hilarious to me. I think it’s feather-knife throwing thing sounds really cool. (I’m reminded of ‘The Blue Raja’ from ‘Mystery men’, perhaps occasionally it throws a spoon-feather XD)
In my Opinion Dartrix>Torracat>Brionne.
Am I the only who thought it was adorable when Torracat was mushing the ground after you pet it!? God, I really want one but don’t like the final evo. Hopefully there are S/M exclusives.
Or use eviolite.
I don’t like not evolving them though if I’m gonna use them in battle :/ The only time I’ve really done that is when I leveled a magikarp to 100 for fun and kept a zigzagoon as my level 100 picker-uper cause I think it’s cuter than Linoone.
Yeah I agree.
Litten’s line looks like a whole lot of wasted potential. People say “Oh it’s not Fire/Fighting so it’s ok” but I don’t understand the need to make almost every fire starter since Gen 3 be some sort of fighter.
I agree..I’d maybe be fine with it if it was actually cool looking, but the fact that it becomes very un-feline-like and it’s not good looking turns me off.
I just want a quadruped fire starter for once.
I almost think it’s better that the final evos leaked. If I had seen just these guys, I probably would’ve gone team Litten and then screamed when I saw it evolve
Yeah, plus now all (well, most) of the Popplio contreversy was done in June rather than a month and a half from release.
Trueeee. Still kinda sad that’s even an issue. It’s one of those ones where I’m indifferent, but I definitely like parts of it. It’s just not my favorite but I think it’s better designed than Greninja and Samurott.
I liked it. I’m not exactly on board with the Exclusives evolutions, sure Lycanroc got them, but the Starters seem unlikely to me.
It’s just wishful thinking. I half expect them and half not.
Are there any Pokémon that you’ve hated in the past that have grown on you?
I never really liked Claydol until it helped me destroy Lisia. I was also indifferent to Tentacruel until it basically swept Lance. Now it’s one of my favorite water types. Even if I end up appreciating its power though, I’m not sure its design will ever really click with me, which sucks because I love cats
Well we can’t all like everything. Are there enough Pokémon yet you could forego your starter for? Or can you have it hold an everstone for most of your playthrough and evolve it later?
I mean I like Rowlet’s final evo, so I’ll go with him. Just kinda sucks cause there are a lot of awesome flying types this gen lol
the only reason i hope they get exclusive evolutions is because they said at the beginning that rockruff and the starters shared a secret, the only thing thats unique about rockruff atm is it’s exclusive evolutions so thats why im half expecting them to get a similar treatment. but the other half of me expects to get used to the ones we have seen from the leak. tbh i have grown to like the bipedal tiger but it still puts me off….if it was quadrupedal then maybe ide be happy 🙂
Tigers are one of my favourite animals. I too would have preferred a Quadrapedal final form. But I have grown to like the leaked Bipedal one over time. I wouldn’t necessarily mind a split-evo, just seems like there’s little to no chance, even with the Rockruff stuff.
The eyes of Brionne are satanic.
Water/Dark confirmed!
Gotta say, I like Brionne’s look in game far more than it’s artwork.
That went for Popplio as well. Brionne’s artwork just makes it look like it’s on something.
So Festival Plaza seems to be a combo of the Entralink/Join Avenue/Wifi Plaza and the Poképelago seems to be the spiritual successor to the Dream World. I bet that’s even where we can get HA pokemon. That’s some cool shit. The only things that could make these games better would be:
-Battle Frontier
-PWT
-Pokeathlon type games
All these new features seem really fun 🙂 I’m so hyped
I spent way too much time in Join Avenue. Super excited.
These games definitely look far better than X/Y already. Just hoping for a decent difficulty level.
Yes, that would also be a great returning feature!
X/Y were rushed so that they could put all their time and effort in Sun and Moon.
In hindsight, I’m fine with that. Back then I was pissed
the only reason it’s better than x and y is because they essentially rushed it since all it was, was them trying out the new graphics and what they could do with it. sun and moon look like the best games by far…but Platinum is still my favourite
right? join avenue is so fun
Please gf please give me my battle frontier pls
They have to. They hinted so many times in ORAS that it’s coming
🙂
Thank god Mega Evolution is back.
Not for the mega evolution itself but because people will stop asking if it’s coming back or not.
tell me about it, i wouldn’t care if it was back or not, but people were going insane because they hadn’t said a word about it until now. so thank Arceus people can finally stop complaining! Relief 🙂
Am I the only one who thinks Dartrix looks a little too much like Shrek?
I really dont see that
For me, I see the brown looks like the vest Shrek wears and the upper white is like the long sleeve shirt he wears. Also the green color for Dartrix seems like the same color as Shrek’s skin too.
When you put it that way, I can kinda see it. ._.
Yes?
Think it’s quite safe to say yes, you are.
If we are actually getting clothing based off of protagonists and different characters I am going to be so happy. Gimme Gold’s hat, Hilda’s shirt and jacket-thing, Leaf’s Skirt and Rosa’s leggings.
minor text fixes*
Might be from other characters too, like Gym leaders. Probably fairly limited though.
omg gym leaders…
THERE IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH CUSTOMIZATION
We can only hope 🙂
Dragon Quest IX did that.
To quote one of my friends, “I wasn’t sure which one I was gonna pick, but I’m picking Rowlet BECAUSE of that hair flip”
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-07/31/8/enhanced/webdr10/anigif_enhanced-5305-1406809791-15.gif
It’s even Owliver Queener with that hair flip. Snape makes it look bad….
Yeah, just wanted to post Snape
RIP, sweet prince </3
Datrix is my favorite, of course, but the other two are really good too.
Fun fact about Dartrix. Dartrix could be inspired by Robin Hood in his early years. When he was the son of an earl and of course acted snobby like a rich kid. Rowlet’s Final evo is basically Robin Hoods end result when it finally got his crap together and tried to be a hero. The Robin Hood we know now.
Fun fact about Robin Hood, there’s evidence to suggest it was actually intended to be a story by the upper classes to their children to encourage them to get involved with philanthropic endeavours, not (as most people believe) a story to appease the lower classes.
Also technically Robin Hood was originally a Yeoman, not an Earl. It wasn’t until later that he was turned into a noble.
Talking about types:
Dartrix: Grass/Flying for final evolution, no need to discuss.
Torracat: Burning terrain, I mean it could go Fire/Dark, but its dex entry actually points to fighting, which will be reaaally disappointing. I mean Litten3 design is terrible, at least don’t make him another bipedal Fire/fighting.
Brionne: Can totally see Fairy coming at first place, if not maybe just pure water cause no other type will fit it (maybe psychic but its and popplio’s dex entries do no suggest that).
Talking about stats:
Rowlet 3: Good/Great Hp (100) Mixed attacks (100-90), low defenses (65-75). Good Speed (100 at best cause it already dies with an ice shard, at least it has to survive to non priority moves. It can be a defensive pokemon). Brave bird, Solar Blade, Tailwind, stuff like this
Litten3: Goodl Hp (90), Great Attack (120) good defense (100), low sp.Att. (70) and Sp. Def (70), normal Speed (around 80). It doesn’t look like a sweeper, so I think it will go like emboar but with more speed and less hp. Punching, Fang and Kicking moves.
Popplio3: Normal HP (80), Low Attack (60) Great Sp. Att (110), Defense (100) and Sp.Defense (110), Normal/Low speed (around 70). Water/Fairy is truly a good defensive combo so it can easly be the wall among the starters. I can see it learning sing, charm, wish, toxic, sweet/draining kiss, calm mind, aromatherapy and so on…
Litten was actually shown to be the fastest of three starters. Also I’m pretty sure Litten will end up Fire/Dark. Translations in the descriptions of the concept says it likes to cheat and fight dirty. So that sounds like a Dark type.
Litten maybe be fast, but Litten3 does not look that fast. 90 at best. Also just because it’s faster then Popplio and Rowlet doen’t mean much. It can be 50 while Rowlet is 45 and Popplio is 40. I totally cannot see it like Greninja, Sceptile or Serperior. It looks bulky, it will go like Blaziken.
It can be fast. I mean Lycanroc Midnight doesn’t look bulky in the slightest, yet they make it sound like it can take a hit in order to use Counter. Also wasn’t Blaziken pretty fast too?
Blaziken is 80. Sorry but I cannot imagine it be more then 90, its hands looks really heavy XD
Good thing it has the muscles to carry them XD
Also notice how Dartrix gained 32lbs evolving, Brionne less then 22lbs while Torracat gained 45lbs. At first Popplio was the heaviest, almost the double of Litten and almost 5 times of Rowlet weight. Now Brionne and Dartrix are almost the same weight while Torracat is 20lbs fatter then them. I don’t think we will have a starter with more then 100 base speed.
That weight is mostly muscle from it’s upper body, not fat. Also if Torracat is actually faster than Rowlet despite the weight, that would imply none of them are that fast. And I highly doubt that.
I can see that happen. It happened in gen I and II. My predictions are Grass 100- Fire 90/80- Water 78/70. Never happened that the fattest starter is also the fastest. So I’m quite sure Litten is going to lose some speed while Rowlet is going to gain some or they will both settle on 90.
Mega Blaziken’s ability is Speed Boost and default Blaziken has a base speed of 80. So decent, but not very fast either
Solar Blade is supposed to be unique to Lurantis.
“Lurantis can learn Solar Blade, a move that releases a blade-shaped beam to mince up its foes. The blade is so sharp it is said it can slice a rock in half! Solar Blade is a move that no Pokémon has been able to learn before. With Solar Blade, Lurantis absorbs energy from the sun on the first move and then unleashes a powerful attack on the second turn.” Not sure that makes it a move unique to it or not.
Pretty sure it’s supposed to be unique or they wouldn’t have bothered revealing it alongside Lurantis.
Unique moves used to be more common until they started diluting things and giving unique moves to other pokemon.
Or it was just the first Pokémon revealed capable of using it, so they felt they should say something about it after it was shown using it.
If they did that, they should have revealed other moves alongside other pokemon.
The fact they’ve revealed so few moves (other than Z moves) is a clear hint there’s something special about that one, and being a signiture move makes more sense than any other explanation.
If it is then that’s kind of a shame, I can see other Pokémon using it.
They’ll probably de-uniqueify it next generation.
Besides, I miss pokemon having unique moves.
For example if Hawlucha didn’t have exclusive access to flying press, people would forget about it. Lucario lost a chunk of appeal when other stuff started learning Aura Sphere.
I wouldn’t be surprised if litten is more of a mixed attacker, with the flaming belt and spitting oil
stat wise i think it will go like this:
rowlett: Mixed high attack, mediocre HP and defenses, high speed
litten: mediocre speed and special defense average hp and defense, high attack
popplio: good hp, sp def. high special attack low attack and special defense speed
Rowlet has a lot of HP looking at its stats from the first trailer. It cannot have that high speed cause Litten is faster right now. Litten speed on the other hand will go down but not that much (around 80-90) for the same reason. Popplio has great sp. att and defenses, always from a trailer at the E3. It has low attack for sure, but maybe not that poor speed cause it seems pretty agile with the dancing thing and the baloon (70-78).
imo litten speed is going to drop alot. rowlett defenses are going to be very poor and popplio is going to be a mirror of milotic stats
Rowlett:
HP:90
Attack:95
Defense:65
SpAtt: 105
Sp Deg: 65
Speed: 100
Litten
HP:80
Attack:115
Defense:90
Sp Att: 70
Sp Def:70
Speed: 75
Popplio:
Hp: 95
Attack: 60
Defense:65
Sp A: 100
SP Def: 110
Speed: 80
There no way on earth Popplio’s defense is 65, really. It must be something between 80 and 100. Also your total stats are 520, 500 and 510 with no reason at all. Give then more point to rowlet hp, ten more points to litten speed and twenty to its defense, and give Popplio its twenty defense points.
nnnn i didnt do the math lol but yeah i agree with you with the tweaks in the last sentence
If it was really based off tiger mask then I say it should get AT LEAST! 100 Base stat HP. In the anime Tiger mask Nisei, Tiger mask takes hits that would kill a Rhino.
With Hyper Training will we be able to see the IV’s now? I can’t remember if it was shown. Also has there been anything on the Day-care? Specifically with relevance to breeding.
A bit of an update. This came from the Japanese Website. Getting Mega Stones is not restricted to a special facility. Also, note a “special facility”, let’s hope that’s the Battle Frontier. Anyways, they could be naturally found around Alola and received from NPCs in the game. Also, I found the second page of the bottom screen. Can anyone translate the Japanese? Also, why is there a stamp next to the Trainer Card? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/768c18d0b6345c2941f77c4a395c329395ae02cc204e9371d9252b78361349df.png
Trainer Pass
Pokerijiito? (Probably Pokepelago equivalent)
Pokerifure (Pokemon refresh)
QR Scan
Battle Video
Settei? (Settings presumably)
Pokeresort, not Pokerijiito.
It’s Poke-resort!
Yep, po•ke•ri•zo•to. Pokéresort, Poké Pelago’s Japanese name.
It’s been a while since I’ve had to translate anything and I rarely run into so/zo. Hopefully it’s kind of obvious how my brain derped and defaulted to ‘ji’.
Shi, ji. So, zo.
Yeah, I got confused, too, when I first saw the name.
シ vs ソ
I’m guessing the stamp is just to amplify the whole Hawaii Tourism thing. Like how you get your passport stamped, That’s the only thing I can think of
I’d say it’s most likely the equivalent to a badge.
1 Trial Captain –> 1 stamp
In Japan they have stamp books and you can visit their monuments and tourist places and get a stamp for your book.
http://www.jref.com/images/articles/japanese-castle-stamps.jpg
Like the thing they had in Zelda Spirit Tracks as a side quest.
Yup, most definitely gonna be the appropriate substitute for badges in the Alolan region. Trial Stamps!
I am very Litten’s line fan but let be more logical and less emotional here.
Dartrix: Actually I didn’t expected that Rowlet evloution will have this amazing and derpy personality I will give 1st place.
Torracat: I like it but I kind disappointed I don’t want him to be quadrupedal if it stand on 2 feet that will give him stronger personality in my opinion(I like his body curve though) so 3rd place.
Brionne: I like her (I mean to not saying it) Design and the color in the game more than the official art her animation is very felicitous though …2nd place.
Reasons Datrix is my favorite Pokémon of Alola thus far:
• That shade of green is beautiful
• I love the “hair”
• It’s overall design is amazing
• It’s gonna be my starter
Great job Gamefreak 🙂 Solid 9.8/10
Both my brothers hate it
they both said they hate it because of the Emo Flip
Tell em it’s not emo, it’s snobby blonde rich kid. That’s so funny and cool
i want to see somebody make the generic white collar rich boy Dartrix
with the pink shirt tied on the neck
I’m working in that right now actually. It also has anime eyes that are winking
also add a tennis racket because it just works
Will do
http://65.media.tumblr.com/5b6533fd4ea92bcd1b6d45c96caabd5c/tumblr_mvwidotoz01s10ykeo5_1280.png
uhhhh http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aE79dGK_700b.jpg
Ah, I’m not the only one who thought of that.
Most accurate a fakemon’s ever been as far as I can remember.
it was funny first thing i thought i could of between that twitter too
Second best Grass type behind Sceptile of course. Fact
Alola Exeggutor suddenly fell on my list. (It’s still up there of course)
Agreed, they’ve outdone themselves.
I’ve been thinking about the name the final evolution for Rowlet might may as well be…
Rowlet – Arrow and Owlet
Dartrix – Dart and matrix or something with trix in it, somebody clarify me
Archood, Bowhood could may as well be it’s official name for the final evolved form, deriving with Archery or Bow with Hood. A subtle reference to Robin Hood, but if it’s to do with that, I would prefer calling it Sherhood instead.
Dartrix may be a combination of darts and the genus Strix or tricks.
Thanks man
It’s that first one. Genus Strix
Got my info from Bulbapedia and, honestly, it can be both.
I really can’t see it being “tricks” tho. It doesn’t work
knowing the pattern of the names, I can already guess that the next name will be a combination of either Archery or Bow with Hood
I would have thought it would be the mythical strix rather than the genus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strix_(mythology)
Silly Richard Haslam, Trix are for kids
“At times, this Pokémon feels so bothered by its dirty or ruffled feathers that it can’t focus on battle. When it loses its focus, it sometimes even retires from the battle on the spot! It’s up to each Trainer to help Dartrix overcome this troublesome stage. If this Pokémon is with a Trainer who helps it through, its strength will grow hugely!” Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a mechanic that changed how certain pokemon acted during battle? Like if you fail to groom your Dartrix it might disobey you during a battle or if Girafarig is put to sleep it’s tail head can still attack you or if you use rain dance on Magcargo it will cause a fog weather condition which will lower accuracy ect, And these would function as 2nd abilities determined by a Pokémons species.
Only in some cases.
I’d get pretty miffed if I was about to face the legendary and stop the world from being destroyed when I suddenly realised “oh crap, I haven’t groomed Dartrix” and have to spend 5 minutes grooming my pokemon.
It would ruin the mood.
Also that would mean making Charmander die when its tail went out.
I feel like as far as dartrix goes it will be something that can be over come with raising it’s friendship. As for charmander you would have to take care not to send it into battle wet. I feel it would add more immersion because it would feel like “hey I really raised this Pokémon)
It would be a pain when trying to complete the pokedex though.
I think having them alongside for the whole story is raising enough.
They’d be better off making it so trainers reset to their start state after a day or so so you can start from the first area with weak pokemon and fight your way to the end, minus the story elements.
Plus I really hated having to evolve Sylveon using the Amie. Most annoying evolution ever. Even more than having to hold the DS upside down.
similar to mudbray
they tell me that they need to play in the mud every so often to invigorate them and if they don’t they stress out and won’t obey
i mean yeah i could possibly tear up some ground but i’m lacking in water types so its gunna be stressing without mud
also i myself don’t want to get muddy WE’RE FREAKING LIVING ON OUR OWN so i doubt there’s any laundromats anywhere, also i got this quirk where i cannot stand to get my hands smudged where it drives me nuts
Bulbapedia’s name origins! …I posted this earlier, but there’s been slight updates.
Dartrix may be a combination of darts and the genus Strix or tricks.
Fukusurō may be from 梟 fukurō (owl) and throw.
Torracat may be a combination of torrid (very hot and dry) and cat. It may also involve 虎 tora, Japanese for tiger.
It may also involve torrar, which is Spanish for to roast or to toast.Nyahīto may be a combination of ニャー nyā (meow), 火 hi (fire), and heat.
Brionne
may come from brinemay come from brio (vivacity of style or performance) and undine, a type of female water nymph or mermaid.Oshamari may be a combination of オシャレ oshare (fashionable), 鞠 mari (ball), and marine.
They’re going to be arguing for a while.
Torrar is also Catalan and Portuguese.
Makes sense since Catalan is a kind of like a Spanish dialect.
Portuguese is also pretty similar to Spanish.
Nah it’s totally just Brioche -> Brionne like Seal -> Seel.
Google says brioche is a pastry. :S
Torracat is totally my favorite starter’s 1st stage or is it 2nd stage idk anymore
I always go by the TCG standard. Base = first one, 1st stage = first evolution, 2nd stage = 2nd evolution. So it’d be the 1st stage according to that
ok good so i love the 1st stage
I hate that. 😛 It’s 1, 2, and 3 for me.
Idk it’s like how we name the floors in a building as well. I’m American, but I still say ground for the one you’re on (like entering from the street), first for the one above that, second, and so on. Apparently here it’s supposed to be first for the one you’re on, second for the one above that, and so on?
I know, it just seems odd to me.
Using ‘ground’ is a British thing.
That’s a bit different though since that’s to indicate that you can walk out the door and you’ll be standing on land instead of trying to walk through the air.
Maybe more people should open up to the idea of 0-indexing.
The reason I tend to think of them as 1,2 and 3 is because non-evolving pokemon are called ‘single stage’ pokemon, hence it follows that other pokemon (that do evolve) have a second and third stage.
Same..!
imo, is honestly one of the best middle stage, top 5 for for sure along with quilava, dewott, croconaw, and prinplup heck is probably top 3
Yup i like aswell it is my favorite of the 3
Idk if this is old news to you all, but apparently there’s an evolutionary ice stone now! New ice type confirmed? 😛
Probably for Vulpix
Mm true. Still, it’s a little over a month away and yet we have no new ice or dark type.
I wish it could be used on Glaceon and the Leaf Stone on Leafeon.
there has to be at least one native ice type
maybe that Ice/Ghost Snowman that’s been floating around
That’d be a dissapointment. We have like 9 fairies why would we only get 1 line of ice? It’s such a forgotten type.
We only got one ground type in Kalos. But then again…it was Kalos, with a low amount of new pokemon
technically 2 but Legends don’t count
Yeah everyone seems to forget that Zygarde is ground.
i only got two ground types i need 3 more
i’d even take alolan at this point
i was denied a ground mono for both Y and Leafgreen (the stupid guy sold me a unofficial copy of Leafgreen and right around the cinnabar gym it deleted itself) so i am hellbent on seeing at least 5 ground types and beating the game with it
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/443/19962890118_22c4c691c5.jpg
“A select number of Pokémon were able to Mega Evolve in Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, and Pokémon Y.
As long as you’re in possession of the proper Mega Stone, any of these
Mega-Evolving Pokemon that can be caught in the Alola region will be
able to Mega Evolve in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon, as
well. The Mega Stones for Pokémon that appear in the Alola region may be
received from people in the game or obtained from special shops.”
So does this mean some mega pokemon will be unobtainable?
#SaveMegaLopunny2k16
I think Lopunny is on the chopping list, I don’t remember seeing one anywhere.
If it does I’m freaking done with GF. Ok maybe not i’ll still buy everything they have to sell but I would be very angry
I’m already angry at loads of their decisions.
If it weren’t for Komala, Oricorio and Lurantis I’d be inclined to skip this generation.
It’s about time they accepted feedback forms.
Skip this?! Why?
They ruined Litten’s final form, UB02A is an abomination, I’m probably going to miss gyms, Type: Null is an awful name, some of the region forms are worse than the originals…
Just so many bad decisions that it’s turning into one of the most divisive games ever. It was supposed to be “it all comes together” but it’s slowly turning into “it drives us all apart”.
True, im starting to think that they just used the “it all comes together” gimmick because they are the games for the 20th anniversary but they really are the most different main series games so far
Yup.
“it all comes together” -> only give region forms to Kanto pokemon
“it all comes together” -> scrap gyms, replace with trials
etc
I dont think so as one of the screenshots was a shop selling megastones for 64BPs each
That confirms some mega stones, but not all of them.
And this description (from the official site) says “for Pokémon that appear in the Alola region” twice, as if to emphasise it.
Idk could happen but it would be horrible for me not to be able to get my mega blaziken sidekick ;-;
Just thought I’d throw it out there. I could be wrong, I just thought it was odd that they said it twice.
I’m assuming we’ll have access to all mega stones, but not all pokémon, so the megas would only become available when the pokémon themselves do in January, as would make sense. It would make absolutely no sense to bring some megas back but not all of them. They could make some mega stones unavailable, but that seems like a stupidly random decision, what would be the point of making some of them inaccessible and not others, especially as all of them are banned from the 2017 WCS…
I’m just going by the fact they emphasises ‘in the Alola region’ twice.
“Mega-Evolving Pokemon that can be caught in the Alola region”
“The Mega Stones for Pokémon that appear in the Alola region”
The artwork for Pokepelago pretty much confirms it’s that group of islands at the top right of the map.
Yep! The official site even suggests that there will be more than the four they showed off, “And develop new kinds of islands as well!” Also, in the official art, you can see an island that has a waterfall/hot springs type location. I’m excited 😀
They’ve named a few. The one with the bean sprout is called Isle Abeens, the one with the cave is called Isle Alphun.
I’m guessing it will be about 7-10 islands in total.
That’s what I was thinking. A lot of possibilities to go with
We know of 5 at least. 6 if you count the pacifidlog-style hut/hub.
“As your Festival Plaza’s rank goes up, you’ll gain the ability to host
missions, where multiple players can try to complete a certain goal
together. Missions can be attempted with other players you connect to
via local wireless or the Internet. It also seems that global missions
will sometimes be held, in which everyone playing Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon can work together to achieve a goal!”
I like the sound of this.
I dont get the poke pelago thing other than it is a pun on pokemon archipelago…
I’m pretty sure that’s all there is to get about the name.
Yeah but i dont get what its for, does it replace the pc or is it like a day care place?
Well it’s an actual place on the map, and what it does is pokemon from the PC can go there and essentially do minigame type activities. It reminds me of neopets for some reason. It’s like a lil island resort for them. Like the poke paradise from the first pokemon movie.
Oh ok that actually sounds interesting
It’s a minigame thing.
You leave pokemon there (via the PC somehow) and they gather beans and evolution stones and stuff for you while you’re out adventuring.
Oh xD i thought we would be able to visit them aswell haha
I think you just visit the little hut in the centre and the guy in charge ferries them to you.
The islands don’t have an overworld model it seems. It’s more like the Dream thing from Gen5 or the pokemon Amie – sprites and a 2D background.
Wait… A new evolution stone?!
Yup, ice stone
Must resist slowpoke image…
Sorry. I can’t read Japanese. When I saw it the first time I was like “oh. It’s some random item” then I was like “Wait… It looks like a stone”
It also appear on the spanish website where it reads “piedra de hielo” or ice stone in english but i hadnt noticed until gamexplain mentioned it
It’s more that it’s been brought up by 3 people now. The first comment was about a Spanish video or something.
Someone should bug Moving to add it to the list.
i gotcha
Next time someone asks, we’ll bump it up to Slowbro, then Slowking.
http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ani079.gif
yes it has been translated to ice stone from japanese.
And Spanish. Forget not the Spanish.
That remind me of “Little Red Riding Hood” a little. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1475607838777.png
and i see either a sharp Australlian accent as it walks in, mauls and devours the granny and just obliterates the goyle
sometimes the true hell for me when I can’t describe my feeling but u actually read my mind.
its second nature to come up with colorfully gruesome acts of malice
U really choose hard words …..r u count eloquent person in english?
thanx god that google translate exists.
And thus the walls were stained sanguine as Earthen’s ardent rampage slew men and beast from Albion to the New World. Betwixt this chaos not a glimmer of hope shone, and it came to pass that all fairies did die that day.
Exeunt Pharap – the Narrator.
That accent works ..
Beside one thing..
For some reason when I think of an Australian accent the voice in my head defaults to the Sniper from TF2.
I want to play the game for one sole reason, to find the route that plays that theme when they were showing the starters and stay there for like 5 hours
I imagine if that song is in the games it’ll be the opening cinema theme. Maybe during the in game opening cinema as we arrive on MeleMele island. lol
Pray for a soundtest room.
Oooo me tooo…. very good soundtrack 🙂
So I’ve been thinking about what the demo could be like. In the ORAS demo we got to go to a handful of different islands to explore and do little missions. In hindsight however it made sense that they could make the demo be on those islands as they were actually the mirage islands that we would later have in the real games. Makes me wonder where the SuMo demo will take place. Think they’ll go the XY route by having it on a single route and just have us cut off from the rest of the world or do we get little missions like in the ORAS demo? I hope it’s like the ORAS demo as that was more fun than the XY demo seemed to be. Also would make it more worth while to play lol. I imagine we’ll get the starters on our team along with Greninja. Like the ORAS demo I doubt we’ll get to catch any Pokemon, but maybe they’ll reveal a new one in the game! That’d be pretty awesome right? hahaha
Probably island missions or just a single unique island.
They’ve been very explicit about the plot of the demo being separate from the plot of the game.
Makes sense. I hope that the SuMo demo being bigger than the ORAS one means that the demo itself is more content filled. the ORAS demo was fun, but wore off pretty quickly lol
I don’t mind a boring demo if we get free items.
The demo will be about you finding ash greninja and the data mining for other new pokemon and ruin the surprises for everyone 😉
Tbh I’d rather they spoil it for everyone than the US spoil it for the whole of Europe.
Oh yeah europeans are gonna have a hard week if trying to avoid spoilers i dont get why europe doesnt get it at the same time as everybody else like in x and y
I don’t know either.
Probably in case something catestrophic goes wrong or some other lame excuse.
It’s down right discriminatory.
So basically the data mining is part of the demo hahaha
Yeah they will include a tutorial on how to do it properly hahaha xD
Wow that’s very kind of them. hahaha
You know that one Island mini game with the mining revealed today? That is its true use
you mean the one with the single tree that’s in the region maps far right corner? Yeah I saw that too lol
XD
Technically there are several islands, the one with the mine (Isle Alphun) is separate to the one with the bean sprout (Isle Abeens)
yeah they’re most like gonna let us do unfun things like walk around battle a set amount of trainers maybe a tall patch of grass and some low level Skull flunkies and that’ll be it
I JUST WANT THEM TO DATAMINE THE POKEMON LIST
Inb4 only ground types are the mudbray and sandyghast lines 😉
And a ground/fairy
Im thinking about collecting pyukumukus the beach and win ash greninja 🙂
But the truth is, after thr demo is out, im going to pay attention very carefully to news….
If i see any spoilers from data miners, im out! Cause its gonna be impossible to avoid any kind of information, or comments!
So I drew my SuMo trainer and team. You should do this too! I wanna see how to plan to make your character look!
rf https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/531a734ee27052199eb84b9f598e97fb101396bba253e64ff8c40a704c773d1c.png
https://rawkandrolljunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/2.jpg
FTFY
http://i.imgur.com/EfXKrks.png
The SU influence comes through in your art.
Salandit, Lurantis and Pikkipek are good choices.
My art used to be way more SU-ey 😛 Love the art style!
Hoping Pikkipek has a good evolution and can last through the game. I may swap it for Jangamo-o midgame if that one has a cool evo
I don’t like the SU style for various reasons, I prefer stuff to be more anime style (not Pokemon SunMoon anime style, serious anime style). I’ll admit Gravity Falls did a good job though, for an American thing.
I hope they give it another typing at some point. So sick of flying-normal birds it’s unbelievable. Fletchling was a gift, the only regional bird I’ve ever deeply liked.
What about Komala or Oricorio?
The early art of it isn’t great but I like how it is now. Anime is a great style but I like the flexibility of the SU style if that makes sense
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/83/0c/1b/830c1be003f343b3938b1bc7306d7d90.jpg
I’m kinda hoping for a Steel/Flying wood pecker. I wouldn’t mind normal typing though.
Komala is cute, but just isn’t really for me ya know? I like Oricorio too, especially the purple ghost form and the cheerleader one but I like Pikipek more. It’s colors are great and it just looks super cute. The idea of Jangamo-o (no idea if I’m even spelling that right) becoming a Griffin sounds plasuble and just really awesome and I’ve wanted a pokemon of one since I found out what a griffin is!
I like the Steven Universe style, its very versatile, even though I’m not great at replicating it. Although, the eyes do bug me.
The only thing it’s got going for it is the correct number of fingers as far as I’m concerned. Otherwise it’s too bright and smiley.
I prefer stuff like One Piece and Fairy Tail in terms of animation, and by anime standards those two are considered quite simple.
wow i am using a salandit and a alolan vulpix too
They are great pokemon!
I can see brionne->popplio3 being one of those “be careful who you call ugly in middle school” memes xD
I made one back when those fake starter mid stages were making the rounds
http://65.media.tumblr.com/e0b41038ea47aa87f962109cda541bef/tumblr_ocfr43LFJ31rks5v8o1_500.png
Oh god brionne is waaaay better than whatever that is
Popplio3 is still ugly though 😀
*prepares Tortunator*
popplio3 is so pretty
Bet it’s going to be really egotistical or a murderer though.
Sirens do intentionally kill people after all.
Makes it cooler though. It’s all pretty and sings and stuff then it lures you in and attacks!
Lures you in and then murders.
Jason and his Argonauts would disapprove.
http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ulysses-sirens-Draper-L.jpg
Y I should have Ash-Greninja not Shady-Greninja ??……how my pkmn should my pkmn have a bond with Ash ? wat kind of traitor is that I will kill it If it did that.
I thought the same thing, i am not ash and i definitely dont look like ash so me having ash greninja doesnt make sense
GF doesn’t like things making sense.
GF likes things that create hype and bring in money.
Changing my avitar and name, this is SesquipedalianPokedex, I might become a regular on this site again so, if anyone cares….
i think it would be great to be in a place where if anyone agrees with anything someone else would disagree at the same thing.
I can’t tell if this is being sarcastic and rude or not. I mean I disagree with people sometimes but that’s not what I set out to do….
i’m being half-true about that claim.
Technically you are already semi-regular.
I used to be a regular but I stopped coming for about a month, until like yesterday.
Yeah, I know.
*pokes through your post history*
Yay, I’ve missed you pal! 😀
NMUTHERFRAKCING why do i have such INSANELY BAD LUCK
What freaking Banette carries SNATCH? stole my Slurpuff buffs and ruined EVERYTHING then belittles me
That sounds like a great strat
not helping, this makes loss number 7
always the same shit
Landorus, Heatran, Latios, Lopunny, Clefable and Black Kyurem
I mean, even if you lose you have to respect a great strategy there. Would have never thought of that. Also yee Mega Lopunny
screw you i’m in a really bad losing streak AGAIN
Come on Earthen, I made you an amazing portrait featuring your sun and moon team AND Excadrill and you treat me like this? I thought we were friends…
I’m pretty sure that’s Earthen’s friendly setting since he just insulted you and didn’t threaten to murder you or your fairies.
Oh.. good point! Nevermind, we’re good Earthen :3:3:3
True he has tried to murder me before
do you know how it constantly feels to constantly try each and every day to build a team of pokemon you like, you cherish and just to have your morals and vitality CRUSHED by the so called meta because 3 years of doing it has left me battle scorned and bitter so every victory must be achieved to soften the wounds
Maybe just try to have fun with the pokemon you like and not focus on winning?
that’s physically impossible i haven’t had fun nor felt happy in 4 years
I’m with @BigGuyI:disqus on the fun thing. I had fun once and it was horrible.
losing is not fun
losing all the time EXTREMELY NOT FUN
Losing because of a crit or a miss, i have a new scar on the back of my leg
losing because of a status cripple, pound my head into the support beam
opponents laughing it up punching a hole in the wall
I don’t think you had fun then .-.
Dude in every single Pokemon Tournament I’ve ever been in for VG I have won 2 matches out of let’s see… At least 40 so yeah I’m worse than you in that sense
those tournaments are nothing but the same shit,
You have a point only people I beat used oddball teams like a Shiny Parasect
if you ever thought you could succeed with a parasect in a tournament
you are qualified for euthanasia
Can we petition Gamefreak for more hair options for males?
It looks like they’re only giving us the officially sanctioned North Korean haircuts at options.
I thought it seemed we had some variety in boy hair cuts, at least compared to X and Y
I see no bald and more importantly no long hair styles:
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/oct_4_assets/festival_plaza_770x562.png
Hey that’s my type of haircut
I want long hair dammit.
Looooooooong hair.
(And Afros and things!)
You really want this guy here?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/024adbf68d3d631f6a44759c17d8899f477d352d431fe817cd1abefe2e82d8bf.jpg
If they add that, I will throw money at them.
Basically if we can’t have hair as long as N’s hair, I’m suing.
I recognize that picture… what is it from?
It’s from Yo-Kai watch his names Groovealicious
Ok then…. (Oh no now people who are paying attention might know I play yo-kai watch)
Let it out just let it out I got the second game. You should join the channel I made for it. It’s… Very unused so far
Calm down, the game isn’t out yet. xD I’m sure there will be at least one long hair option.
I don’t have the faith to believe that.
I need firm evidence.
N-length or bust!
Dying is now a thing ftr:
https://daily.pokecommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-05-at-12.50.58-am.png
So. Many. Customization. Options.
I know right! It feels like…. Like…. The kind of options you would have in a normal game… Joking aside all these possibilities for customization are very exciting and will certainly make each persons experience unique and personalized.
Depends on the game.
Skyrim and Dragon Quest IX – yes.
Other RPGs… tend to be lacking.
I mean, of course, other games with customization, which I guess I could have specified, I do realize that most all RPGs don’t have customization.
I always flock to DQ IX because It’s the best I’ve seen so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC6TfxE2wJc
And that’s without the hundreds of clothing choices available!
Ahh! I love that game so much <3 The dragon quest series is like my, second favorite RPG series!
In some ways I prefer it to Pokemon, it depends.
I certainly think Pokemon could learn a thing or two from it. Especially with character customisation and maybe story.
DQ IX is better than the others I’ve played though (DQ V and DQ VI).
My main draw to Pokemon comes from the battle system and monsters, which I do prefer from Pokemon to DQ, although I do agree that Pokemon could stand to learn from it.
Did you know DQ did its own pokemon style game called Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (and a sequel)?
Good games, hard to decide if I prefered the original or the sequel.
I don’t know which battle system I prefer. I like the structure of DQ’s system and their equivalent of a horde mechanic, but their element system isn’t promenant enough.
I did know and they are some of my favorite DQ games, being the first I played.
I did know actually, they are actually some of my favorite DQ games, because they were what introduced me to the franchise.
But no long hair ; n ;
i cant believe pokemon went the eco-friendly way and had dye with berries as an option
When I saw that I immediately thought of the clothes starting to smell or get moldy, does that happen, do people even dye clothes with berries anymore?
i was thinking more about how people use kool aid to dye their hair. they can use berry juice to dye
People use kool…
I give up with humanity.
you did not know that trick? lol how do you think girls dressed as harley quinn achieve the red blue ponytails
Dunno, I’ve never seen girls dressed as Harley Quinn.
And I’ve never even seen a bottle of Kool Aid, I think they only sell it in America.
Harely Quinn in Batman: Arkham City <3 <3 <3
Tara Strong <3
I’m one of the few who prefers her original look.
Tara Strong is a good choice though.
Even if it results in Fairly Odd Parents and Ben 10 flashbacks.
I prefer the original look as well. The new Harly just, doesn’t look like the same character.
Yeah, they try too hard to make her edgy and modern. I liked the Commedia Dell’arte inspired Harlequin costume.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b9/99/c9/b999c912ec84d291f7b23280e7704999.jpg
Black and red diamond motif ftw.
I also hated the Batman Begins Joker’s costume though, so it seems the public doesn’t agree with my opinions.
Tara Strong is my all time favorite Voice Actress
i’ve almost seen everything she’s every voice acted in
Even Hello Kitty, The Powerpuff Girls and the sex tapes that 4chan released?
Sum-Bionic Titan, Samurai Jack, Mlp, skylanders, spyro, 101 Dalmatians, Spirited Away eng dub, Drawn Together, Chowder, even in Brickleberry and King of the hill
I love that Women
Good enough, out of those I’ve only seen Samurai Jack, Chowder and potentially the 101 Dalmations thing.
Wander over Yonder, Fosters, Teen Titans, Xaolin Showdown, Ben 10, Transformers the animated series, even those old Mario cartoons she voiced Hip and Hop Koopa (aka Iggy and Lemmy)
I just really love that women’s voice
Seen Teen Titans, Xaolin Showdown, Ben 10 and the Mario ones.
Oh dear god the Mario ones.
*hears the words ‘mama luigi’ on loop in head*
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have, Runescape does it, ARK: Survival Evolved does it, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other RPGs do it.
Not doing it would be a sin.
i didnt expect it tbh. i never plays rpgs so i dont realy know alot of customization options
I’m not sure what ARK counts as, Runescape is an MMORPG, so it probably counts.
RPG is my favourite genre other than creative/sandbox (dislike the term sandbox).
ARK is probably the most well known one to do it, Minecraft does it but with flowers instead of berries. I think it’s one of those things where it exists a lot but usually people don’t think about it much.
Yeah we’ve known this though. 😛 But it’s great nonetheless.
News to me.
And it wasn’t mentioned in the article.
I only found this via google images.
This was back with the passimian stuff, but it’s great to see how it works!
Probably got ignored then, Orangutans > Dyes.
TANGROWTH IS OU? YESSSSSSSSSS (i havent seen the tiers in forever im so shock)
It’s very fun to use, and it’s also good to use because most people don’t expect it and don’t know it’s stat distribution.
im so happy. im building a team around it rn. tangrowth was one of my fav to use in xy
Wait where can you find Tangelas in XY? I’ve never came across one (at least I don’t think) in X.
Friend Safari or trade from ORAS.
Oh that explains
i think i got from friend safari if not trade
Tangrowth is a good pokemon.
Better than what it evolves from definately.
It needs more love.
i run it now, does terrible with all the heatran and talonflames, hell even M. Venusaur is trouble
yeah im was thinking about that. fire types are probably a weakness on my team rn
Decent starter evos. Dartrix is amusing, I love the naming choice to reference the strix genus, but it’s no way near as cool as it’s evolution :p (but hey, that’s always better than the Grovyle/Sceptile situation where the mid stage is the best). Torracat is fine, not a massive fan of it’s name, and I’ve seen fakemon evos I preferred, but it works perfectly well. So sad it turns into horrendous Tonymask upon evolution though.
Brionne is, like it’s evolution, pretty damn dissapointing to me, and just a waste of both the pinniped line and the circus theme that made popplio hold such promise. ech, at least they don’t look too bad and there’s some concept behind them.
Festival plaza looks pretty fun and for once I’m legitimately curious to try it. I think I’ll invest time in it compared to join avenue and things of similar ilk. I’m curious about those foreign region souvenir sets, about the presence of what seems to be a female team skull grunt, and about the fact you can change the plaza theme according to the official site.
I love that pokémon in the pc are finally getting some love, and these minigames look like decent fun. I love the name poképelago too. It’s nice to know what these islands on top of the map are as well, even if the outcome is honestly quite anticlimatic.
The fact they revealed megas before the game release, and the fact that they seem they might possibly not be confined to the postgame made me hope for the unexpected possibility we might get new megas, but the WCS ban kind of killed that hope. I guess we’ll see, one can always dream! The presence of these mega stones does suggest to me that the idea of visiting Kalos postgame is pretty dead, not that I believed in it any way, but I guess this is the nail in the coffin.
It’s really cool the demo seems to have it’s separate story, and it’s a cool way to make Ash-Greninja obtainable, but I’m concerned about the demo size. REALLLYYYY hope we don’t get a dataminable full game this time, that would be total sh*t.
These reveals kill a bunch of rumours that said whack about the starter evos and ash-greninja/Z-forms, but as the riddler hinted we got more out of the Z-ring features, so the riddler’s credibility stands as expected.
Random rant: the new draco meteor totally sucks compared to the old one.
I agree on the Draco meteor thing, that was actually pretty dissapointing to me :p
I’m hoping Strix is also a reference to the mythological Strix, but it probably won’t be.
I think when I first got Sceptile I didn’t like it much, but grew to like it in the end. I don’t like its mega though.
Totally agree about Tony.
http://i.imgur.com/epqnU2q.png
I wouldn’t say it’s a massive dissapointment but it’s definately a shame it didn’t have a circus theme.
Maybe they thought a clown pokemon would scare people.
Could have done a ringmaster or something though, or an acro… ok maybe not an acrobat.
Yeah, Festival Plaza is one of the things I’m genuinely excited about
because I’m a horrible item hoarder.I don’t think it’s that anticlimactic. Presumably everyone else was expecting a battle frontier or Kalos or something, but I was pretty convinced it would be something mundane like the location of the demo.
I am pretty glad that it looks like they’re going to abandon the idea of adding new megas. But that’s just me.
Consider it datamined, GF are too stupid to strip the data out. Dislike Ash Greninja, but I’ll play the demo because there will probably be items (I hope).
Eh, he’s not the only one to do that, people were saying it way before him.
I’m really starting to like Venusaur more than the other starters. In my current FireRed run I’m using Bulbasaur (a start I’ve never used) and so far it’s fun to use a wide variety of status moves to your advantage. Also it has some great bulk.
that thing is nothing but a ABSOLUTE PAIN IN THE ASS
IT IS WAY TOO FUCKING BULKY NOTHING SCRATCHES IT
Still very fun to use
>>>>>>>>>>:C
Use Psychic or Flying moves.
Updated Teams
———–
SUN:
– Dartrix
– Salandit
– Mimikyu
– Oricorio
– Type: Null
– Lycanroc
(Tempted to use Pikipek as it’d be cool to see what it evolves into if it doesn’t get revealed on the 14th)
MOON:
– Torracat
– Alolan Raichu
I’m REALLY hoping that they find a way to prevent dataming. If they didn’t it was a very stupid move to release a demo, as these games seem like they have much to spoil. I’m going to play it by ear and as soon as I hear of datamined demos, I’m out until after the game’s release, which is dissapointing considering that’d be two weeks before I was planning on leaving.
Honestly I have very poor knowledge of coding or anything of the sort, but I’m assuming the only reliable way of preventing datamining would be to not have the data there in the first place, like any person with a shred of pride in their work when it comes to not throwing it out to be spoiled would do. It’s a bit sad we can’t trust GF with that.
If the dam does burst I’m gonna have a few questions about the number of pokémon/alolan forms/by some miracle megas or by some even bigger miracle evos of old pokémon, about the gleanable presence of a decent postgame, possibly about the nature of ultra beasts as I’m not a fan of them, and maybe about the veracity of certain leaks, but other than that I’m honestly going to try and stay away from spoiling the pokédex for myself. I legitimately want to enjoy discovering them when the game comes out.
That is true. If it gets leaked, I’m going to ask someone I trust one question: Do we have a battle frontier or something similar? I want to know this going in so I don’t have to be dissapointed if there’s none at the end of the game.
Yeah it’s the same for me, it’s about not being dissapointed when there’s only 80 new pokémon, no postgame, no new megas, and UBs are catchable… But at least relieved we get a snowman and a toucan.
Or some similar situation.
Or maybe they’ll be 110 new Pokemon, a large post game, new Megas, uncatchable UBs, and a snowman and toucan! Gotta think positive.
As a programmer, yes, that would be a very reliable way to stop the data mining.
Sadly there are costs to these things. Removing the wrong bit of data could crash the game because the game attempts to load something it thinks is a pokemon and instead gets a heap of nonsense, causing it to build the equivalent of a misingno or crash altogether.
I agree about disliking the UBs. I liked them until UB02A.
It may cost stuff, but they might have the time and resources for it. After all, the ORAS leaks could’ve been prevented if they removed the extra Pokedex entries and unneeded trainer battle data, then play the demo to completion to see if it worked properly.
Though not being familiar with the 3DS devkit, I won’t know how long it takes to compile the thing after editing what amounts to be a text file.
The ORAS demo should not take 2 hours long to run through all the available scenario that it had.
It depends how many tests they have to run. There’s a saying in the world of professional programming that you should spend more time testing and reading code than you do writing it. So really it depends on how strictly their test policy is. If I were in charge I’d be saying ‘screw tests, just wipe the pokedex’.
It probably takes longer to upload to the cartridge than compile, but it depends on what their hardware is like. They might have a cartridge interface that reads straight from the computer’s HDD or RAM or something, in which case it would be as quick as the computer can compile the code and the game can boot. They may even have a way to force data into the 3DS’ RAM and set the registers with the right data.
Otherwise (if the embedded system I’ve been using is anything to go by) compilation is less than a second, uploading is 5-10 seconds. But I’m working with a low-memory device and small amounts of code, the 3DS is many times larger.
Plus they have to test pretty much every possible scenario, i.e. they literally try to break it by attempting things only idiots would do. And then there’s heisenbugs – bugs that mysteriously seem to disappear when you try to observe them during testing.
I can’t remember how long it was, that was ages ago, but it was definately shorter than a few hours, so yeah, maybe 2.
Well the demo is not gonna be on a cartridge so that saves time in uploading to carts at least.
The main thing about the ORAS leaks is the Pokedex, Trainer and item leaks (which did spoil some unannounced megas). If I were them in designing Sun and Moon’s demo, I would wipe the Pokedex and enemy Trainer list and item list, and copy pasta any entries I would need on demand (3 starters, Glalie and Mega Glalie, Steven’s Pokemon, all the encounters in the game, potion, Glalie stone, etc.).
As for idiot-proofing, they probably already did that in the testing for the main game, so all they’d have to do is take an abridged test script from the main game and give that to the people testing the demo.
Yeah, but they have to get the data to the 3DS somehow, doing it wirelessly would take ages, transfering it onto an SD card or cartridge would be faster but still quite slow, but using a cartridge interface cable (i.e. a cable that pretends to be a cartridge but actually connects to a main computer) would theoretically be the fastest method, albeit harder to set up.
Yeah same, except instead of zeroing the data, I’d fill it with dummy data that can’t do any harm, like fill the pokedex with entries about missingno and use teru-san for the items, and give them effects that are less likely to cause issues.
It’s not that easy though. Remember the mew glitch in Gen1? That was caused by memory pointers pointing to data they shouldn’t do, and that’s still a possibility in modern games, even if it’s less likely to occur. Misinterpreted data is one of the bugs that’s most likely to cause issues when creating a slimmed down demo. It’s not impossible that they could just strip the data out and it would work fine, but programmers tend to be over-cautious because the public gets really stressy about bugs and performance issues, and in a world where dividing by zero can cause a program to crash, every eventuality has to be accounted for.
Hmm, I thought the point of a dev kit was to be able to test it on a PC or something. Unless that only applies for Xbox1 and PS4 because of their PC-like architecture…
Maybe they do have some R4-like flashcarts or something (but legit) for transferring to a “cart”? Wait, it’s a digital only demo. Well I guess they have some quick way (we normal 3DS customers don’t have) to USB transfer things to the SD card android-style…
Different devkits work differently, the term ‘devkit’ is loosely defined as to what it encompases. I expect the Xbox1 and PS4 are indeed easier to work with since they both use Intel based CPUs similar to those found in desktops. The 3DS uses an ARM processor, which is specially designed for embedded systems (satnavs, phones etc). Aside from the different instruction sets, Intel CPUs are CISC processors and ARM CPUs are RISC processors (Standford’s explanation is as good as any if you don’t already know the difference: https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/risc/risccisc/ ).
Out of interest, the library used by indie developers to make Xbox360 games (called XNA before it was discontinued) could be used to make games that ran on Xbox or PC, and several games that ended up on Steam used it (I think Fez might be one of them).
Potentially something like the flashcarts, I was thinking more like something that connects via cable and uses a cartridge shaped plug, a bit like this: http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0n8i3xwFB1qzp9weo1_1280.jpg
But, instead of being hooked up to some random board, having a USB on the other end and either converting the signal or writing to the cartridge maybe. Either would work, but the speed of the process would depend on the speed of the SD card’s memory (they actually have different categories of access speeds) and the speed and practicality of a communication protocol between the cartridge interface and the USB interface (or some other computer-based interface).
I think they are sure sure this time after what happened with oras demo. If they are so stupid to put all data in the demo again, well they should not do that job.
Ithsme I gotta level with you
I WILL talk consistently about leaked info
I want this more then the game itself
Fair enough, but then you’ll understand when I say this is why I can’t be here. xD
I doubt I’d notice you leave
I feel so loved.
I feel quite the opposite
To be honest, the ORAS demo was lazy and they had the whole Pokedex and “Trainer Dex” in it for some reason.
I really love how the new reveals have only a few new pokémon, but widely expand on new features, that’s exactly how they should be doing these trailers closer to launch, as 48 officially revealed pokémon is already kind of too much.
Definitely expecting fossils in Corocoro, and them to be revealed in the trailer on the 14th too. Probably one or two new Alola forms too, possibly Persian, and I guess a new Z-move or two.
Feature wise, we know we’re getting more info on Type:Null, and though that’s not a feature per se it’ll probably have story implications. Other than that I have no idea, hmm, maybe the trailer will have more stuff about customisation or about Pokéride?
Can’t wait to see Greninja’s Z move. Benefit of being an ability not an item. Might make it competitive.
Clothing items I’d like to see from each gen (protagonist outfits are a given):
Gen 1:
– Blue
Gen 2:
– Silver
Gen 3:
– Wally
– Steven
– Wallace (Gen 3 version)
Gen 4:
– Cynthia
– Volkner
– Cyrus
– Palmer
Gen 5:
– Cheren
– Bianca
– Hugh
– N
– Ghetsis (BW2 Version)
Gen 6:
– Tierno (I really liked the Vanillite shirt)
Gen 7:
– Hau
I want to dress like Misty though.
This is just MY wish list. Plus cross dressing isn’t my thing.
Not even the comedic way
Bobobo Bo Bo-Bobo taught me that everyone can cross dress
I’m just trying to look good.
I want to dress like lance with cape and all…
Agreed, but I want a male hairstyle with long hair too.
Sorry for spamming these comments but I have a lot to say. These games are looking great so far, and I’m saying that if they have an engaging story, finish off the dex strong, and give us a BATTLE FRONTIER (pls GF I’m begging you), then these may be my favorite installments yet. Still holding out for that BF though.
Well this day is done hello ten days a trudging through this pitiful life until the next drop of info
Amen there
And then Demo! Yaaaay
You forget corocoro leaks good sir
I’ve always been a fan of gender differences in Pokemon, but I’ve got to admit, Sirene and Beltigre are too polar opposite. It almost makes no sense how a Male Sirene and Female Beltigre could exist looking like that. It’s like a comedy movie plot.
Robinhoot is the only one that makes sense
You know, once my professor told me that exactly how we cannot tell the difference between a male pinguin and a female pinguin by simple looking at them, when they look at us they cannot even. So try to imagine pokemon as pokemon and stop pretending they are human. Cause in a world where a female machamp and a male Lopunny can happen, everything can.
Everything can? Even Nazis and the holocaust?
Az tried to ends human race, you know…
So the next game could feature all the pokemon being wiped out and just have people punching each other instead?
If GF wants to, it will happen. I mean can otters become sea lions in your country?
Sometimes i feel like being at cinema with everybody complaining that what they see is fake. You know when you sit down and think: Why?
The point is that just because something can happen, that doesn’t mean it should happen.
I for one would be happy if they stuck some lipstick or something on Machamp to make the distinction clearer.
After all, it wouldn’t be the first time.
You’re acting a bit childish, just because you don’t like what he/she’s saying doesn’t mean you have to be that way.
And for the record the reason wobbefet has lipstick on is a reference to Jessies in the anime when it put the lipstick on, its really more of a joke then anything else….
You wouldn’t be saying that if you agreed with @disqus_54hd3zisDQ:disqus and disagreed with joker.
They could have put a shirt on Machamp or given it different head growths, the point still stands.
Or is this just because I used lipstick as an example?
If you wanna feel real life, then go out and live it. This is a freaking game, settled in a world where 11 years old children save the world and have no fathers. Jesus, do you really feel a problem with Machamp not having lipstick? Stop playing pokemon and create your own game!
If that was meant as an insult, I’m not insulted.
Lipstick was just an example, as I said, they could have given it any number of differences.
Actually I am creating my own game at the moment, it’s not a full scale RPG, but it’s more about the means than the end.
Please consider that in real life the only gender differences are genitals and chest. Cause you know that male emo uses lipstick and females have bad tatoo too in 2016, right? So if your suggestion is to give Pokemon sexual organs, fine, write to Gf. Cause what it looks like right now is that you wann put sexism on pokemon and we don’t need it. I love that Female Machamp looks like a male Machamp, they are equal in pokemon and I’m fine with it.
I’m thinking about other animals not humans. (Though actually there are more differences than that. Hormones, chromosomes, hair growth, muscle mass, even general body shape.)
As for animals, Female peacocks are brown, the males are blue and green. In some species of owl the female is larger than the male.
I only used lipstick as an example, they’ve already done that with Wobbuffet – it wasn’t my idea to start putting lipstick on pokemon.
There’s a long list of sexually dimorphic pokemon, it’s not a new thing: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_with_gender_differences
And how are we supposed to distinguish a pokemon hormone or chromosome? A female bodybuilder has much more muscle mass then me, believe me. Hair growth…really? Female usually shave, but there are smooth men and hairy women.
Listen, we see things differently and there’s no way you will accept that there’s not always science behind pokemon so, let’s just leave this conversation.
They don’t, but those are indeed differences.
But you can tell a female bodybuilder is female.
Yes, natural hair growth. Besides, Pokemon don’t shave.
I’m not saying they haven’t made decisions that refute science, I’m saying that every fantasy world has to obey certain laws or everything falls into chaos. There are websites dedicated to this practise, it’s called worldbuilding. Without boundaries things fall apart, if Harry Potter was incapable of killing Voldemort one minute and could magically kill him the next with no explanation as to how, the world would fall apart.
But Gamefreak have already introduced sexual dimorphism and it’s a good thing and they should keep using it.
So, please, reveal to us poor humans what are those rules that stopped Sugimori from creating a pokemon putting some eyes on garbage. The rules beside the creation of a pokemon belongs to Ken Sugimori and GF. That’s why if I design a cute grass chair it cannot be consider a pokemon. So if you are in touch with Sugimori and he told you that he was forced to create female Machamp without lipstick but he really wanted to, that’s something. Otherwise, you just want something and you pretend that things have to be like you want them to be. You know why GF does not do what you want? Cause there are other milions like you that like the things you don’t. Can you accept it?
I never said anything about rules stopping pokemon being created. I mean things like them never getting rid of existing pokemon or changing how evolutions work (except Feebas) or keeping violence out.
Ultimately they have to abide by the rules of Pegi, Ken couldn’t design a pokemon that was literally just a naked human.
I’m fine with being disagreed with, clearly you haven’t been though.
Machop says hi.
Machop isn’t literally a naked human, it’s a naked reptile without any external organs (apart from skin).
Like all the other pokemon. So why are you acting like they should? Or should look like animals?
Stop seeing Machamp as a man and your problem is solved.
I never said I saw Machamp as a man, what I implied was that it’s impossible to tell a male and female Machamp apart just by looking. Not hard – impossible.
Ehm..yeah, like 680 other pokemon? So you want to be able to distinguish all 800 pokemon among males and females, that’s your point? And why does this problem come out after 20 years of pokemon?
Why not? It would be pretty handy.
And it’s 505 discounting Gen 7.
99 Sexually dimorphic pokemon +
34 pokemon of single sex +
77 genderless pokemon =
210 pokemon,
720 – 210 = 510
It’s not a new problem, it’s an old problem being discussed again.
You know why? Cause there cannot be a world without rules. One of the rules in real life that Gf decided to follow is that you cannot always distinguish a male creature from a female creature, like you cannot distinguish a male pinguin from a female pinguin. So they decided to create pokemon with obvious gender differencese and others without, exactly like in real life. So the circle can be closed and I imagine how great you should feel realising that GF has always done what you wanted to, even if you didn’t know it. And if you have a problem with this, then you have a problem with nature and only God can help you (who knows if God is a male or a female and if you could tell it just by seeing)
Ah good, so you finally agree that there are rules.
In the real world you can tell almost every animal’s sex apart, if not by appearance then by behaviour. Even penguins have tells.
I don’t believe in God.
I cannot and children (which are the majority of pokemon players) cannot for sure, so yeah GF created something that would fit its target. All pokemon behave the same. About rules? Wasn’t you the one who needed some? Now you have one, accept it or change game, that’s up to you, you are totally free in this choise. So please stop this, cause you know you really have no argumentations left, right?
A large chunk of gamefreak’s actual audience are teenagers and adults (in particular people who have actually been playing it for 20 years).
Children can’t comprehend all the meta rules, but they exist.
All pokemon do not behave the same. They have different animations, different quirks. Zigzagoon moves in a zig-zag pattern, linoone runs in straight lines, Clefairy bounces around, Salamence flies. Some pokemon behave, some disobey.
There’s no rule against sexual dimorphism, it’s already a thing built into the game. There is a rule that it exists, there’s nothing to stop them making it more prevalent. They’ve already retconned lots of pokemon that weren’t sexually dimorphic to say that they now are sexually dimorphic. Pikachu, Houndoom, Roselia etc.
And how can you distinguish a male clefairy from a female one based on behavior? Please tell me.
Inchorent nonsense that’s exactly what you have been talking about for two howrs 🙂
If it pees standing up or sitting down ;))))
Definitly! 🙂
I’ve decided StarStorm was right, I’m going to go do something fun instead of listening to this incoherant nonsense.
Enjoy talking to thin air.
The point about the rules/boundaries and the point about sexual dimorphism are different things.
I never said Pokemon should look like humans and I never said they should look like animals. I’m saying they should have more sexual dimorphism because they’ve already started using it, it works well, and it should be extended to more pokemon.
I think either he has completely missed the point or is trolling.
Probably either missed the point or ignored it on purpose.
Yes, in most species the males are hotter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
In real life gender differences can go far beyond just genitals and chest size lol.
and you wouldn’t be trying to tear the joker down a notch if you agreed with them, its a two way street, whats your point? Im sure you wouldn’t like it if you made a statement about something and then someone pulled some randomly outrageous thing out of thin air to compare to it like nazis (only you mate only you), but you do it a lot so its come to be expected by you. Honestly What purpose would having drastic gender differences serve other then to make some people feel better about pokemon not perfectly mirroring the real world. (which tbh, IRL there are plenty of inconsistencies to that, like male birds being more colourful and flamboyant then their female counterparts, which by human standards would apparently seem backwards)
Me tear him down?
You’re the only one here who has resorted to name calling.
The outrageousness is part of the point, it’s called hyperbole. In a world where supposedly “everything” can happen, there have to be rules or things start to break down and contradict each other.
There’s nothing backwards about the sexual dimorphism of birds (e.g. peacocks). It makes perfect sense in context. All animals have a way of telling their sex apart, it naturally stands that all pokemon should too.
It doesn’t have to be majorly drastic, female Cacturne have a different number of spikes for example.
Either way I can see you clearly have some sort of vendetta against me. It doesn’t bother me though, when it comes down to it, words are just words. Your insults neither anger me nor upset me, because an argument ad hominem is no argument at all.
All right belongs to Game Freak. In pokemon there are two rules:
1) Game Freak does what it wants..
2) Remember first rule.
Never called anyone names, I said you were acting childish, I never insulted you either, I’m just calling you on your aggressive behaviour. I have nothing against you either, I don’t know you, you’re just another person on the internet. The whole point of this entire “argument” is that in its root, the issue brought up was specifically about the original commenter having a problem with a feminine and a masculine pokemon having the possibility to have be both genders, and the joker person basically saying to move on. If they did have gender differences for popplio 3 and the mermaid ended up being the male form, even if in the pokemon world that was the way it worked just like birds in our own world, I guarantee you the OP would still have the same problem
I’m not being aggressive, I’m merely disagreeing. Being agressive would be ignoring the point and attacking the person.
Calling someone childish is a clear attempt at an insult.
That’s not how it works in the bird world unless you assuming being colourful to be a feminine trait, which I for one don’t. I think royal blue and bright green (or in some cases pure bright white) can be perfectly masculine.
100% missed my point
and for the record I don’t just defend people who I happen to agree with, I’d like to think that if people were ganging up on you for something that you didn’t deserve it for I would defend you, but thats beside the point
I was merely disagreeing with him and agreeing with John.
And again I reiterate I haven’t actually attempted to insult anyone, I have merely pointed out a hole in their logic.
To be fair the whole Otter to Sea lion thing comes from the sheer fact that they experienced artist’s block when coming up with the final stage and ultimately settled on a sea lion based on a trip the a aquarium
doesn’t that kind of prove his/her point?
Not really unless it was intended then yes, but settled doesn’t equal it
If Sugimori wakes up one day and decide to create a smiling grass chair you cannot stop him. So, if you cannot stand this basic rule try something else. Learn that in real life nothing is exactly like you want, the cool thing is that there are both things you like and things you don’t, but if there were not these last ones then neither the first ones would exist.
Oy… :/
I’m pretty sure those are classified under ‘everything’.
Indeed. Unfortunately it is classified under everything :/
Thus the world of Pokemon is not free for anything and everything to happen, there are rules.
Quite the inappropriate reference in the real world, but it sure had a parallel in the Pokemon world, so yes.
Hyperbole to prove that there are boundaries, even the Pokemon world has rules.
What happened with Az wasn’t quite the same. It was a full scale war, but the rules and mechanics were different, it was a war that got out of hand, not an intentional erradication of a particular race. I’d say it was more like the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, which are in the same era and part of the same war, but again – different mechanics and things. Plus the games never show any detail they just kind of imply that things just stop living rather than
Actually, it’s not the AZ part with the nazi comparisons, it’s the Lysandre part.
In as much as he’s an evil dictator, yes, but his methods are different. He plans to use a weapon to wipe everyone out at once and only wants team flare members to survive. Also his reasons for trying to wipe out humans was because he thought all humans were inherantly evil and greedy.
Hitler on the other hand teamed up with other leaders and took people prisoner rather than trying to wipe everyone out at once and his motivations were to do with his belief that Germans were superior to other countries/races.
Granted it marks the first time GF has made any reference to wars or significant death, but they still only alluded to the deaths and didn’t actually show any, so the point still stands, they have their boundaries. The world of Pokemon does indeed have rules and patterns.
Well it is necessarily the same, they both want to kill everyone not part of certain “elite groups”. Also iirc, there’s similar reasons Hitler has singled out Jews for destruction.
Ah ok, Sarcasm is lost on the internet.
Hitler didn’t want to kill everyone, just certain groups, they actually had a hierarchy in mind.
Lysandre wanted to wipe out all humans almost indiscriminately (i.e. all but the select few that joined team flare).
Abstractly they’re the same, but at more literal levels they aren’t.
Sometimes I use , but some people don’t know what html tags are and sometimes I think that’s maybe too explicit. ‘sarcasm’ would be a nice html tag to have.
Btw if you think it’s that innapropriate that it needs censoring, feel free to flag my comment, I don’t mind.
I didn’t flag it because I could tolerate it, and XY was a good excuse as any for comparison.
if I could upvote this 1000 times I would
Ill help you witht the upvote…
I don’t understand either…
I saw a lot of female machamps in real life hahahaha
You could tell that the ‘real life’ Machamps were female though.
I presume you could at least.
Well sex in a lot of species of different animals in real life is not consistent. The concept of looking at a sexual organ as a defining feature of sex is only due to convenience. Biologists will generally look towards chromosomes as defining features, however many also agree that that’s too simplistic. Even for us humans, we can have up to 10 chromosomes at once but only recognize 2 combinations in modern society.
TLDR in real life, Pokemon could look exactly like they do in game, with no visible sex organs, making a male and female Machamp indistinguishable without monitoring their behavior.
It’s not just organs though. Typically species have other characteristics such as beak sizes and patterns. Gamefreak has already implemented these things on other species (e.g. Roselia’s leaf length, Zubat’s fang length).
I beg to differ about only recognising 2 combinations. There are cases where an extra chromosome is present in those that determine sex, and the resulting combinations are named accordingly, for example as Klinefelter’s syndrome. The only reason these combinations typically aren’t thought about publically is that they are uncommon occurances at best.
Some, but not the majority. Aside from the few cases of hermaphrodites and temperature-dependant animals, most animals have some physical sign. Travelling into the realm of animals that change sex over time though, would be branching beyond the known scope of pokemon. As I’ve said before, sexual dimorphism in Pokemon is an established occurance, this is about extending that to more species rather than introducing new mechanics.
The thing is, female bodybuilders don’t quite bulk up the same way as male ones, which is why you can tell which one is female even if you hide obvious features like face, hair and chest.
I see a lot of female Snorlax in Walmart. It’s uncanny since only 1 in 8 Snorlax are female.
The difference is that pokemon don’t actually exist? Humanoid pokemon are based on us so of course a female machamp or a male Lopunny look weird. Most women don’t get that strong (like litten3 or machamp), and most men don’t have those soft features like lopunny, gardevoir or popplio3. They should make Popplio 75% female unless Popplio3 is supposed to have gone through a gender transition
Pokemon not actually existing is irrelevant to the discussion.
This is why they should start using more sexual dimorphism.
Terrible quality video, but I knew Dartrix reminded me of something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkluvblpMOk
Well it all comes together. (RF) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f563f7711948d3fa37262e0eea5cfb4afd0e6522031dc4dfcd39a621fe6c1058.jpg
I[m still nog seeing Dartrix evolve in Rowlet3. Second form of Litten is adorable and tough.. Why isn’t it just evolving in a real tiger.. Wouldnt mind it ‘just to become bigger’ when evolving in his final form.
Brionne is exactly the right amount of change for its transition to Popp3
I agree that torracat and Dartrix evolutions are a bit jarring but it’s happened before.
Weirdness like Dragonite evo sequence is exactly what I want Pokemon to avoid.
But then again we have Feebas/Magikarp to Milotic/Gyarados…
Litten’s final legit looks like a dad rn idk why
I dunno why there’s a massive discussion about gender in Pokemon below, but it’s interesting how passionate people are about the matter.
The last time I even thought about gender in a Pokemon game was trying to figure out why Bertha’s Hipowdon was black. It’s irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but whatever makes you happy I guess.
I for one love gender in Pokemon, and I feel pokemon with sexual dimorphism add to the game and make it feel more real.
Wasn’t the black hippowdon shiny?
Yo guys I just had a cool idea
Member how they said you an scan your team as a QR Code?
What if we did that every week and battled with each other’s teams via tournament style
I’d rather battle live.
OH I MEMBER
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/member-berries.jpg?quality=90
Brionne is like: “Hey I’m gonna kill you, but with a smile!”
A retarded smile. I’ll get a popplio and Brionne will be that spécial needs kid that needs more care
Well lost twice in a row because of fucking legends ITS ALWAYS LEGENDS
Annoying Keldeo and bitch ass fucking shitting Broken Jirachi
member when legends weren’t used all the time
Oh i member
Gov I WILL eat your face if you don’t cram it
You should just go buy a new game off of steam or the eShop or something. Something other than Pokemon if you are getting angry about loosing
That’s just masking the problem
I’m just naturally addicted to battling, but ALL THE FREAKING LEGENDS seriously you can’t battle anywhere without legends except Little cup but then you got to deal with everyone putting Evoilite on EVERYTHING and Mienfoo reigns supreme
The only way this is going to get better is if they made a non legends and mythics ladder (Which I have personally summited many many times and rejected me)
Ok but then it’s obvious the game won’t change for you, why not try something new? Fez is good, You can get Cave Story for free, lots of good virtural console games are out there, maybe metroid or something? There is a lot of games, you shouldn’t keep yourself getting angry with one
the angrier you get the more you lose too.
There’s nothing I freaking want, I have absolutely NOTHING GOING ON
And fwi my stupid credit card was deactivated because of accused fraud, just because I bought 4 ten dollar games on Eshop and suddenly they accuse me of fraudery so I can’t freaking buy anything for a while til the heat dies down
Try cave story. The original version is completely free. One of the best indie games with great story and characters
cannibalism isn’t fun
Oh please it doesn’t bother me one bit as long the meat isn’t personally known
my meat isnt personally known
It is if you’re eating a clown. It’s pretty funny then
so clowns are a meme now
Oh no I wasn’t referencing that. It was because like, if you ate a clown it would taste funny
Ok look I’m not a comedian
OH MY GOD PLEASE I LOVE THE PUN RIGHT THERE
so we are now on day 4 of my shiny vulpix hunt 🙂
I really hope Alolan shiny vulpix turns pink like cotton candy
ILL EAT ITS FACE 😉
I hope their frail and borderline useless
That’ll teach them to be a fairy
That will teach them to be a type I don’t care for
lol I don’t like ground types
Nobody does
I’m like the only person on the planet with such a enthusiasm for this type
im waiting for the day we get a big bulky fairy
It pains me to say this but I have the perfect Fairy/Fighting type that meets the description
go on
It evolves from this pure fairy cotton plush toy Pokemon called Stoofy
Just a pink fluffy ball with rabbit and bear features with a knot on its head similar to ears and larged glittery eyes
But evolves into Mashmellow
Fairy/Fighting
Filter/Fluffy
It is a hulking pink stuffed toy like Pokemon with noticeable tears and stitches, bits of fluff sticking out here and there, it’s missing an eye and has a big red X mark, it has the same knot ears but one’s torn off, short flat dumpy feet and long tubular arms
They’re extremely protective of their trainers and young and will defend them with their lives, though having a gentle temperament they hold enough strength to easily snap trees
It’s more of a support fighting type
Fairy/Ground
mt.pyre has alot of vulpix bodies rn
Just gotten Volcanion today, now I have all 721 Pokemon in all until Sun and Moon comes out.
member when there was only 151
oh i member
lol ill stop
The Memberberries has finally taken over.
Knew it was only a matter of time.
YES YOU GET IT!
Just thought of what the final evolution star names could may as well be.
Archood – Archer + Hood
Tigressor – Tiger + Opressor
Sirine – Siren + Marine
I think litten’s is “Fugly” Feline + Ugly
Nah that’s already taken by Purugly
wow i just realized the pun with that name
What pun?
Purugly
Pure Ugy
its a play on word
Hm, never caught that. It’s really not even that ugly tho
its suppose to be based off those fat ugly cats that rich people find beautiful
Sounds like alolan meowth
meowth es skinny
Yeah, but like the rich people + snooty cats part
Idk, man…
Cat was already taken by Delcatty but that didn’t stop them.
Archood sounds like a restaurant chain
And Sirine sounds like a night club
Tigressor sounds like a Forza
well if you look at the pattern so far…
Rowlet – Arrow + Owlet
Dartrix – Dart + Strix
You can already guess of what it’ll might become.
or…
Archstrig, or Bowstrig – Archery or Bow with Strigiformes
Owloose (Owl + Loose)
kinky
That thought did occur to me.
I like Sirine. I’ll probably call mine Calypso
Bowinowl (Pun of bow and arrow)
Heatigre (Heat and Tigre Spanish for tiger)
Marimaden (Marine and Maiden)
Marimaid sounds better and actually sounds like mermaid.
TOO MANY PUNS I CANT HANDLE IT ANYMORE
*jumps out first floor window*
Bowstrig – Bow + Strigiformes
I think Heatiga is better- tiga is tiger in Hawaian.
no
I think heatigger is better, tigger is tiger spelled wrong.
Heatiger is too obvious
i love heatigre it sounds better
I think Popplio will be a play on sea lion is siren
Maybe seirinion? That kind of sucks but better than the translation team
Not bad.
Excluding legends and Soft resets what was ur guys longest shiny chain
Buneary, but that’s because I wanted a competitive one and one I could use in ORAS
didnt you give me a love ball one so i can breed a shiny one?
I think I did. Both of my shiny Lopunnys are in love balls
i named my hugh hefner
i just gave up my chain of 260 lol
I think like 50 something.
lucky lucky
No, I mean like 50 was the highest it got before it broke and then I said “screw chaining”
I gave up chaining after falling at like, ten. I prefer the other methods for getting shinies infinitely more.
Last time I chained was in Platinum, but I never passed 45 I think (with marill)
What are your hopes for shiny colors?
Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales: Cotton Candy Pink
Cutie fly: Blue
Mimikyu: Orange
Lurantis: Purple
Popplio3: Pink hair
Litten3: White and Blue
Rowlett3: Black
i could make a litten3 blue for you. and mimikyu i want to be pikachu colors
what color do u want the belt?
http://img13.deviantart.net/75ca/i/2016/278/d/c/_teamrowlet_by_rjamez_the_v-dak1n2b.jpg
Rowlet’s final evolution is really starting to grow on me
@starstorm295:disqus is this something you imagined? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1347c7e79f7c86ea74f2d3f4e8ff0def03f6f9ffefff64417a651e7f287dc9ce.jpg
rf
OMG can i use this as my icon?
Go head I dont mind 🙂
Awesome! Thank you
groooosssssssss for once can i see a Shiny Fire Starter that actually looks decent
Charizard looks pretty cool
shiny, maybe not in his megas…..
meh its too purplely grey i want it to be pitch blacck
kinda rude lol but idc. i only did it for star storm….
what colors do u want to see
i don’t even know anymore alright two ideas
all the red parts white
black stripes into ash grey
the grey on the chest turn it pale grey blue like a Maltese tiger
the fiery belt turns white and sapphire to show the intense heat
and lastly the eyes orange
and my other one is just darker colors of its preexisting color scheme
ill see what I can do.
wait u talking about the eyes like his pupils or the yellow part
the silica orange
wait what do u want blue? you say blue like a maltese tiger but u ask mostly grey and white.
nvm i realzied what u meant
this is looking much better
maybe make the chest slightly paler
my inspiration is the Maltese tiger with white hot bluish flames
oh and the claws make them black
final one (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c23321e9dfb97684dbe39d78d1d3c0cd415b9cfd47e0c0d0e3d8499a5078615.jpg
Perfect
happy now lol
never
ok well its always fun to make shinies for other people
Oh wait no that’s closer
is this something like your vision or no https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0461a9e0fbd9e05f5a2a84f88c5abb8c85fa25ae7496f1ac02e7e39aa66e4d74.jpg
Actually yeah!!
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1475683676049.png
Theres an ice stone
Actually, Ash-Greninja might be unbreedable you know, like Spiky Pichu, and Cosplay Pikachu
Annnnd Litten’s final evolution will be fire/fight, right?
Have we had any more from that Chinese Riddler yet?