Another Pokémon Sun & Moon reveal, another update from the mysterious Chinese leaker who only gives cryptic clues about Pokémon that will be revealed. This update comes after the reveal of Lycanroc, Passimian and Oranguru and here are some things that I’m noting:
- The split-form nature of Lycanroc is noted by a divided box, but the final evolutions of the starters are not, suggesting that the secret “shared” by Rockruff and the starters is not version-exclusive evolutionary forms
- The “Aristotle” Pokémon seems to be connected to UB-01 suggesting that maybe Ultra Beasts will be obtainable similarly to Pokémon… or maybe they even have a Pokémon counterpart?
- Ultra Beasts do seem to be included right alongside Pokémon in his list, nested right between traditional “legendary” Pokémon
These are just my own personal thoughts after see the grid, I’m just playing along with everyone else trying to figure out what he means 🙂 Have to say… it is kind of fun.
<3 PJ
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Okay so I’m seeing a lamp post? a male/female version type thing and a toucan 😀
Always wanted a toucan pokemon
Ab pokemons
Lickitung’s best friend
oh yes
I’m honestly tired of speculation. People are arguing (including myself) when in the end, we all know just about as much as the next guy (though some people draw shorter conclusions and don’t reach as much). Regardless, I’m here on this site for the reveals and discussion of already announced features. Could there be an article on what pokemon we think will evolve/ what they will look like, perhaps an article on the new customization, perhaps something on the trial captains, idk. I love speculation to an extent, but a constantly updated list of pokemon after certain announcements and the comments that ensue below because of it is really not what I want to do here on PJ.
I have A LOT of stuff planned for articles. i just can’t get it out yet because there’s a hold-up with something else.
As soon as everything’s sorted you can expect articles based purely on what has been officially revealed and thoughts on what could follow.
Wonderful! this was in no way trying to attack you guys. This list by the riddler is just exhausting and the constant updating after reveals makes it weaker imo. I still appreciate speculation, but in the end, I think we all wish we were playing the game with all the answers right nowz
No, no! Didn’t take it that way at all. Wasn’t expecting an article on this today and I’m a little tired of it too. Hopefully will have something out soon!
Yay! I like discussion. But when all we have is a tiki picture and people start adamantly discussing their ideas, i yearn for discussion on already announced features.
BUT. TIKI IS LIFE!?!
I like the arguing lol. Its nice to see what people have to say, and what everyones opinions are
Exactly, the riddler isn’t worth our time, he’s just causing argument because it’s never anything concrete.
I’m tempted to go to the forum and start a separate discussion 😛
this is why one of us needs to invent time travel
go to the future
get the official book
and see if this guy is lying or not
Or ya know, just get the games and play them instead?
???
And then beat him to a pulp if he is
then send me’
i’ll compile all the info we would ever want
and i’ll beat up the guy and or random civilians
I really dislike this riddler’s way of doing things. I mean the mystery is neat but the constant updates are kind of annoying
I’ve been on his official forums he updates after every trailer
Which is weird to me. Like, why not hint the entire d ex all at once? Why does Jangamo-o have an evolution hinted at but not the mid stages?
its like rockruff. he didn’t have any hints for rockruff.
Maybe he’s a trailer editor . . . ?
I agree 100% with you on this.
so much ruckus
I find it pretty annoying with him updating it after every trailer. It’s getting hard to believe him.
If he works as one of the trailer editors, it actually makes sense
I think updating after every trailer is fair, and I think riddles are much more exciting than boring, overdone text-leaks which any idiot with a keyboard and some imagination can make, because they don’t actually reveal that much and thus don’t actually spoil, giving us a neat middleground where we can speculate but where the revealed pokémon are still neat surprises.
This is precisely why I’m distrusting and prefer to ignore them.
In the early days it was just individual riddles on a chinese forum, but now he’s bundling stuff from the trailers in to try and pad out what he’s actually revealing (or rather hinting since he never actually reveals anything).
I actually love their way of doing it. 😛
I found the pic i was looking for ik i posted this before but like he has gotten alot right. (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7afd921f104944a80394ea4a87857d0d1b6a4affaaba55946de4efb2078c54dc.jpg
the riddler does know things maybe he does lie about other thing but he sure has gotten alot right so far .
Wow thx this is cool. Where does the chinese leaker drop clues? On twitter or 4chan?
chinese leaker and riddler are too separate people. and its on bulbagardens
I meant riddler. So he posts hints on bulbagarden forums??
No but Bulbagarden keeps track of his activities. They update the page I linked to you when he or the leaker drops something new.
Okay so where does he drop the hints? Twitter?
No idea, I just visit Bulbagarden every now and then to see if there’s an update
Some strange Chinese forum. I was taken there once but lost the link. Also he uploads the image so some Chinese version of imgur that has a pawprint for its logo. Again, lost the link to that site too…
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/
The aristotle head doesn’t correspond to UB01.
Aristotle believed that the universe was divided into two parts, the terrestial region and the celestial region. The aristotle image mentions ”celestial body” and ”wormhole” and what is UB01 and where does it spawn from?
UB01 is not a celestial body, it’s a jelly fish (there are no jelly fish stars or constellations.)
The aristotle head could equally have been intended as a thing to reveal the aether foundation since aristotle was the one who suggested quintessence/aether as the 5th element.
Its a jelly fish that spawns from another dimension, that would make it a celestial body.
And yes the Aristotle image was also meant as a clue for the Aether Foundation. UB01 and Aether were announced in the same trailer by the way.
Celestial – Relating to the sky or space.
Another dimension is not the sky or space.
”Lusamine studies hyperspacial Pokemon (UB)”
Coming from a different dimension isn’t what hyperspatial means.
Hyperspatial refers to either n-dimensional space in euclidean geometry, where n > 3 (i.e. fourth dimensions and so forth), or space that is orthoganal to the usual dimensions of space-time.
Space in the definition of celestial refers to that black void that surrounds our puny planets.
Then explain this:
“You’re from a whole other world
A different dimension”
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thats bulbagardens fault as the person keeping track made this from all his posts , i noticed that too but i didnt want to edit the originally image
Seems like all I’ve missed is a lot of drama over a lot of nothing. xD
The Riddler is Marmite.
Same old
No one ever answered my question as to why some of the sprites on the bottom are greyed out? Just that the sprites represent the pokemon seen so far
The greyed out ones are supposed to be ones that are going to appear but haven’t been shown.
gotcha, thanks
Most of them are obvious though, like Tyranitar and Porygon (leaked in item form on the Pokemon Refresh image from the website), Horsea (on the fountain), Seal (in the concept art of that hotel), Huntail (on a boat), Steelix (boat form), Wailord (boat form), Chinchou (hotel again).
Whiskash/Barboach were also on the hotel I think.
I did answer that question lol, see your post again.
not the greyed out ones, you just replied that the sprites in the bottom were for pokemon we have seen before in game, you didn’t say anything about the greyed out ones
so nintendo turned 127 today
And no NX…
plz nintendo
The shock when Nintendo reveals the NX is actually a chain of love hotels.
Hold habits die hard XD
NX is needed
Ubisoft saw the NX this week and said like a hour ago “I think, once again, the interface is very attractive,” he said. “It’s a machine that will be easy to use for all gamers. They have built in something that will give us chance to really have a different experience from what exists today. That’s what I like – that they come with something new that is adapted to what we actually want now.”
Now I’m worried it’s going to be heavily inspired by phones/tablets.
i think the hybrid console is the real deal now.
I never doubted it after they filed that really boring patent.
but i think it will look different from what the patent had
They’ll have to submit a new one.
Though I think the patent doesn’t dictate the exterior, it’s more about the technique involved or the configuration of the innards.
what if the NX was so advanced it became sentient and went AWOL
It’s not Sept 23rd where I am.
going by japan time.
Ultra Beasts were firstly leaked on 4chan by the way, on August 11 as ”boss level aliens that resemble Pokemon who are researched by the villains”
and 4chan users were totally like
“KYS”
“hahah such bull”
(Nsfw content post)
“fake anon”
No words (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/892c8a83ae848c285218793685d014dbea764e1aeebb06357807398cd6ec97d7.jpg
looks like an unknown
id use it, but is alolan Tyranitar gonan be?
Really believe Alola formes are gen 1 exclusive. Or are you being funny?
I’m still hoping they aren’t, but he was being sarcastic because of the tyranitar comb.
I kind of hope Solrock and Lunatone receive some kind of new form maybe, I mean its pretty obvious given the games titles.
imagine
Lunatone is a sun exclusive
Solrock is a Moon Exclusive
Depends what the forms would look like, it’d be pretty easy to mess those two up.
I’d hope they’d turn partially or fully crystalline due to the power of the sun and moon.
well we saw tyrantiar in comb form. Combs can be a neat steel type.
Did you take that from Shiggy?
I like how everyone forgot the Riddler did leaks that weren’t about new pokemon. It says a lot about what people are most interested in 😛
I still loved one of his first ones
X/Y had Meganium and Yanmega, while Sun/Moon has porygon-z
OMG StarStorm its almost time!! Part 3 nearly upon us! (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b76c61c2d81f49c1abaed55e6cb22218f56642c515fb25a4a65608d254f7715a.jpg
OMG YES
I have no clue what’s going on…
So no change there then.
its for the ultimate pokemon theory by lockstin
Lockstin is my drug. I might just watch part 1-2 in a bit just to get in the mood
I liked part 1 alot. like 9.5/10 but part 2 was alright
i’ve been hearing that name floating around, who or what is this guy
Imagine Game Theory, but not trash
i like game theory….
Eh… it’s okay… sometimes. It isn’t as good now
I like both. 😛
Just another youtuber with theories.
So in other words just like people here, but much less credible.
But he does so much research. Like soooooo much research. He doesn’t just spit them out, he actually looks into everything
like me
Precisely why I prefer the theories of people here.
So you prefer the theories of complete strangers over those with a dedicated following? I mean, if they have a following than they’ve gotta be good for something. Sorry, but your logic doesn’t make sense here.
He even points out several times in his videos that some of the stuff he says are a bit of a stretch and should be taken with a big grain of salt
Oh it’s all a stretch, but it’s entertaining nonetheless. And it’s oddly all connected, so if at least some of it isn’t true, it’s the biggest coincidence I’ve ever seen. xD
Call me when there’s a transcript form instead of a video.
C’mon, he clearly puts a lot of time and thought into his content, you’ve gotta give him credit for that.
Never seen them but I’m happy to see everyone happy did he make those Pokemon is ending videos?
Yeah. Title is kinda misleading though
Ok
Well one of his videos was taken down briefly due to a copyright claim by the Japanese publishers of the anime series
He has a YT channel. Lockstin of Gnoggin
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6sjkvDzyY0J8o7k2Kc5rEw
I’ll give it a miss then.
YES!!!
*waiting intensifies*
Aurora Fae is alive in the forums for anyone who cares.
He followed me. I was really relieved when I saw the notification
I am indifferent if not irked.
OMG he is alive!!! I must get there!
Who even is he? I see all these comments about him but I for one never heard of him and I’ve been here for a while now.
A user here who recently left because of internet drama, who now is back on the forums.
Have you heard of the Lavender Swirlix?
Yes, he was always clashing with Earthen cause of his Fairy hatred and urge to kill things
Yep. That’s Fae
That also the reason he left? I mean, Earthen is adorable. Just a genuine cranky guy who hates people but I don’t have a problem with that, probably because I am just like that though, xD.
Earthen reminds me of Grunkle Stan.
Pre-Weirdmageddon times Grunkle Stan
I think he recovered from that, but yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weYHaxJdAek
Replace it with stupid megas and theories
Complete agreement.
Earthen’s not the reason
No, Fae got into an argument with another person on this site as a guest user for a risque picture the person posted, both proceeded to fight until Fae left the site.
That sounds kind of daft when you put it like that.
There’s more I’d rather not bring up. Out of respect for the mod’s requests. I’ll just kinda say you had to be there.
That’s him just reborn
Yeah, Earthen really brightens up the place.
Just another user. Aparently a lot of people got upset when he left because of some argument or another.
Guys he wants us to delete these we should out of respect
Yeah. I told him as well.
Ok he just said it so let’s delete these that say his name at least
And Shady’s because it’s pretty rude to talk about people when they aren’t here. Sorry guys. I shoulda just shut up.
Yep, we should delete. It is still kinda of a not fun thing to remember back too
OMG PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL ME WHERE BIRD KEEPER TOBY GETS HIS POKEMON STUFF? Like plushes, t-shirts etc??? I NEED TO KNOW
I know this one!!!!
The Internet o_o
Probably Etsy, or Japan.
you mean Poketsy
What does he have that caught your eye? I’m a huge fan of pokemon merchandise as well.
He wore a Suicune t-shirt in his latest video and has various plushes sitting in the background in other vids
I want that shirt I shall make a shirt then show y’all
Ok, guys. Fae wants us to stop talking about him and Shady and delete the stuff. He also said us talking about their problems just makes him not wanna come back even more.
Are you PMing? O_0
Yeah. I have been for 3 days now
Ahh, lucky! You get to be on the inside of something, lol.
Ha. It’s just great to talk to him he’s fun to talk to 🙂
What?
Personal Messaging
I guess I’ve found my answer. xD
Private(or is it personal?) messaging. It’s something you can do on the forums where you talk to people but no one else can see it.
Oh Ok I should have seen that
So yeah. I’ve deleted all of my below comments referring to the people and some other people have as well. Let’s move on.
So anyway. Tomorrow is a new Generations 😀
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/779035679795847168
Greninja in gen 9
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/778990936474918914
That pikachu looks like the girl on snapchat who does the “Steven” flirting snaps xD
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/778986813847371776
wtf did he really post that?
Real Shiggy is best Shiggy.
Its a parody account
thank you truth speaker. all this time i actually thought he posted meme stuff. Im sad to know it was never him :/
This is a real twitter account for Shigeru Miyamoto
Oh snap. How did nobody notice that.
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/778720682276368384
She has a thong I think?
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Now after that lets see Hilda in one!
( ͡o( ͡o ͜ʖ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)ʖ ͡o) ͡o)
Hilda AND Zelda…
Maybe Daisy too (I like Daisy)
You killed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jKtKJDLJs
Ok I like her less
Daisy is one of my least favorite video game characters. I’m kinda salty that she is Rey in Super Smash Wars
I don’t have many least favorites I hate Mega Snark from Starfy he eats you for swimming fast and using your Star spin
Stop now I can only take so many cute girls
Nobody got the Sabrina reference…
Which reminds me, we need Sabrina in one too.
Midna maybe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina,_the_Teenage_Witch_(TV_series)#Cast_and_characters
Oh I’m dumb. I thought you meant the gym leader. Guess that doesn’t make sense either
Sabrina Spellman – Sabrina the gym leader
Hilda Spellman – Hilda the trainer
Zelda Spellman – Zelda from LoZ
All we’re missing is a Salem 😛
They probably already exist somewhere on the internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina,_the_Teenage_Witch_(TV_series)#Cast_and_characters
I remember Aqua from the Kingdom Hearts series had a similar designing ”error” on her back and they later fixed that
I wish my errors were that neat.
“E for everyone”
It’s a Bikini
Probably
pretty sure this has been photoshopped.
*Sigh* it was..
Hey the world isn’t ready for 15 year olds in skimpy bikinis. Well Japan might be ready, but most of the world really isn’t..
Japan has been ready for decades.
I mean, they are wearing clothes over it
of course, but really its kind of bit taboo to really have something that can be seen as sexually provocative in a project intended for all ages. Like Japan, Italy and other places are probably fine with the idea, but places like the US or the UK might actually have a problem with it given they don’t want to explain what a thong is to their young kids. Cultures are a big mess of a gray area.
Side note: when I was about 14 in school, one of my classmates wore a thong.
I knew someone like that as well. It was bright banana yellow. He was a cool guy.
This was a girl.
Completely expected.
wu…wut 0,0
Shall I just keep reposting Shiggy’s tweets?
Conversation seems to be dead…
Unless someone has something to discuss? 😛
YO LISTEN UP THIS THIS A STORY
I’m sorry I asked ; n ;
As long they make me exhale sharply through my nose
I know just the one:
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/778927858819461120
“Yes, I’ve finally completed all the street pass puzzle panels!”
*new puzzle added*
DX
Is anyone interested in a few people flying in a balloon in the PJFP? (Let’s call it that. It’s easier to type than Pokejungle Family Portrait.)
Or being carried by a pidgey?
*Zubat
Or riding on the neck of an Exeggcutor!
I might add some Expand Palm. If there is, I might put myself (and like 2 others on it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHHuuF8gH74
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjxqITjhKTPAhXGJiYKHQX6D8cQtwIIHDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2sB9mKl21X8&usg=AFQjCNE6WWPShmVQAr4FdjHqsPsIgjqcgg&sig2=VpZ63PzmrbUBKoGXibVtgg&bvm=bv.133700528,d.eWE
I’m genuinely sad I hadn’t seen that sooner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAP8FuIDa_A
I really love that it’s a meowth balloon. . . Or maybe a sewaddle balloon!
Yeah. Sewaddle probably
Alolan Meowth?
It’s not about Alola tho. So probably just Sewaddle
Alola’s what we’ve been talking about for months to be fair though.
Plus I don’t think anyone has drawn one of those yet.
Team Rocket will have one to blend in with the Surroundings
I like this idea!
Gsv xrksvi dzh vzhb gl xizxp,
hl mld R droo trev blf lmv yzxp.
Zgyzhs rh mvzg, yfg rg’h vzhb gl yvzg,
hl olmt zh blf’ev tlg gsv pmzxp.
YAY!!! I LOVE THESE!!!! :DDDDDD
People might get sad, that much is true.
Seriously what is this?
It’s a code!
I realize that much. xD
What is this?
Throw a hint at me, is there a key needed? If so, what is it?
Oh apparently it’s a gravity falls thing. I like it but I’m not that dedicated. xD
It’s not hard, just an Atbash cipher.
Oh nevermind.. I uh.. I saw the answer… :/
Man, I thought I was so clever for solving it
Where did you see the answer?
It’s deleted now.
The cipher was easy to crack,
so now I will give you one back.
Atbash is neat, but it’s easy to beat,
so long as you’ve got the knack.
Oh lol.
WHAT?!
I JUST SPENT LIKE 12 MINUTES ON THIS BECAUSE I WAS USING THE VIGENERE CIPHER!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used the same cipher you did for yours specifically to make it easy for you XD
BUT I LIEK CHALLENGES!!!!!
I don’t have any challenges, but I have a gift for you:
defaultMaybe x Nothing = x
defaultMaybe _ (Just x) = x
elemMap _ [] _ = Nothing
elemMap _ _ [] = Nothing
elemMap e (x:xs) (y:ys) = if e == x then Just y else elemMap e xs ys
atbashChar c = defaultMaybe c $ elemMap c src dst
where
src = (++) [‘a’..’z’] [‘A’..’Z’]
dst = (++) (reverse [‘a’..’z’]) (reverse [‘A’..’Z’])
atbashString s = fmap (atbashChar) s
main = do
let msg = “Hello World”
print $ msg
print $ atbashString msg
print $ atbashString $ atbashString msg
Yeah, I copy-paste-posted too quickly 😛
It’s an atbash cipher, I literally gave my reply in the same cipher @green1289:disqus picked for his original riddle, to make things easy.
The cipher was easy to crack, so now I will give you one back. Atbash is neat, but it’s easy to beat, so long as you’ve got the knack.
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/778685375803830273
Where can I buy this?
Japan probably 😛
Pieces Collected: 1205/1603…
Dammit Nintendo, are my play coins not enough!?