Elite Four Showdown: Hoenn

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Greetings Junglers, Evan here! Sorry for the long wait, but here’s the next Elite Four Showdown. The winner of the Johto-round is Karen! She won with an amazing 50%! She’s followed by Koga (27%), Bruno (13%) and Will (10%) respectively.

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In the next round it’s between the Hoenn Elite Four members. Vote and let us know who you picked in the comments below!

Sydney716px-Omega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_Sidney

  • Encounter 1
  • Dark
  • Mightyena, Cacturne, Shiftry, Sharpedo and Absol
  • Name: Sinister, insidious or sadness
  • Trivia: Sydney is the only Hoenn Elite Four member who does not share a specialty type with a Kanto Elite Four member.

Phoebe718px-Omega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_Phoebe

  • Encounter 2
  • Ghost
  • Dusclops, Banette, Banette, Sableye and Dusclops
  • Name: Phobia or phantom
  • Trivia: She is the only Ghost-type specialist who does not use a Gengar at some point.

GlaciaOmega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_Glacia

  • Encounter 3
  • Ice
  • Glalie, Froslass, Glalie, Froslass, Walrein
  • Name: Glacial or glacier
  • Trivia: Glacia says she thinks her Ice-type Pokémon can be better trained in a hot region like Hoenn.

Drake

  • Encounter 4Omega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_Drake
  • Dragon
  • Shelgon, Altaria, Flygon, Flygon and Salamence
  • Name: Dragon
  • Trivia: Drake is the only Hoenn Elite Four member who makes an appearance in the anime.

 

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472 thoughts on “Elite Four Showdown: Hoenn”

  5. I’d vote for Phoebe if I could. Although I love Sydney for his type speciality I have to choose Phoebe for her design (looks like a water-type master but uses ghost-type pkm)

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  8. I haven’t been on pokejungle for years! Glad to see its still as awesome as ever. I voted Drake! I used to think he only had one arm for ages…

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  9. Glacia is the strongest Ice type trainer I’ve ever faced, and that’s commendable to be strong using that type. Voting for her. Tough tho, these are my favorite Elite 4!

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  11. Voting for Phoebe.
    I like Ghost Types and she was quite challenging in the originals. Also I like how she’s connected the old couple on Mt. Pyre. Gives here a little character development. Also love her ORAS challenge animation.

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  13. I didn’t see the new article so I’ll ask on this one lol. Besides Dark and Fairy, what are the least used types by gym leaders

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  16. Glacia is probably one of the most forgettable E4 members ever. That said, I don’t know whether to choose between Sydney or Phoebe. They both have good designs, but Sydney has a better team.

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    • At least he doesn’t have a beer belly *Glares at Chuck*
      And you don’t need a 6-pack to take off your shirt, correct me if I’m wrong…

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        • I was trying to help out skinny people, now I get called a fat-shamer.
          Geez, people need to loosen up, you SJWs and these PC people need to calm down.

          Skinny does not mean they’re tough fighter either. If you are skinny, you weigh less, you cannot fight a 250 pound heavy-weight muscular dude. Chuck is obviously muscular, but he has a beer belly… which is very unattractive.

          The way people like you act these days, geez. I’m done.

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          • Well you did say “At least he doesn’t have a beer belly *Glares at Chuck*”.

            And by saying his beer belly is “unattractive”, yeah that’s pretty much fat shaming.

            That was intended as lighthearted conversation, but you called me an SJW and this wasn’t even about feminism or gender, so now it’s not.

      • Clearing my browser cache made no difference (it’s set to automatically wipe my history and cache every time I close the browser anyway, but I did a manual clear as well to make sure). But I tried visiting on my alternate browser (I usually use Firefox but have Chrome as a back up) and it worked.
        I’m going to look at my cookie and javascript settings to double check pokejungle is on my exceptions list, but at the moment it’s looking as if it might be fixed.

        I’m just one user though, so I can’t say whether or not it’s fixed it for everyone.
        I know other people were previously complaining they couldn’t vote either, so you’ll probably want to check with 2-3 more people just to be sure.

        Out of interest, I tend to have heavy restrictions on what sites I’ll let my browser pull cookies and scripts from because I’m opposed to most uses of analytics, beacons and cookies for purposes other than log-in mechanisms, so I’m probably an edge case – most people just leave their browsers with all the settings on default.

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      • I don’t know if it’s something I did or something you did, but after turning one of my addons off and on again and refreshing the background of the website and all the images are back, everything seems to be working normally.

        I won’t know until the next poll if the poll mechanism is fixed for definate because I filled the poll in on Chrome, but at least I know I have a browser it will work on.

        I’m going to assume everything is fixed for now, but if there are any issues the next time a poll comes around, I’ll attempt a few things to see if I can isolate anything that might cause the issue and ask if anyone else has any issues. Hopefully though, it seems as if everything is fixed.

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  18. Haxford you and I have something in something slightly in common I only plan Pokemon and Pokemon like games includes titles like (Kirby, Yo-Kai watch, Digimon, and the only Starfy game to come to America)

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  19. All forgettable E4 IMO, but then again nearly every eliter four is forgettable. They should be like Flint, have a small part outside of sitting in their chambers.

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          • But they released beta versions to the public, yes?

            Or are you telling me there was just a wiki and nobody ever got to trial the game?

          • So everyone’s been upset over something that never really got off the drawing board?

            I don’t know if there is one, I was guessing. If they didn’t have a wiki they must have been very early in.

          • Upset? I don’t think we’re on the same page here. I mean, the game started being developed, but there was still lots of planning to be done concerning the dex and the everything.

          • Pretty much. xD It takes a lot of time to do this, especially when trying to organize things with a group of people. IDK, maybe we had a demo, but I don’t remember.

          • If there was a demo you’d probably at least be able to scrape it for image data. I’d presume there was a demo if they got shut down, otherwise they’d be a non-threat.

          • Not if you’re using RPG Maker…

            A ROM is just a dump of a game cartridge (including its instructions). RPG Maker outputs a different format entirely. Dunno if that’d be an exe or a zipped set of scripts or what, I tend to work directly with libraries rather than scripting for engines 😛

          • I can’t find any info about the output format, but I’m assuming it’s either proprietary scripts run through an interpreter or it generates an exe.

    • Just to clarify my other statements, it’s not a case of it being a complete waste of time, it’s a case of needing to change your strategy.

      Firstly you’d have to scrap almost all ties to Pokemon to avoid being sued.
      You’d have to say “it’s inspired by games like Pokemon but we decided to go down a slightly different route”.

      Because of that you’d have to alter some of the mechanics to make the game different, which isn’t a bad thing – it means you can add things you always wanted and scrap things you’ve always hated. It does mean that you can’t have any actual Pokemon in the game because you’d be creating an entirely new brand. If you took that approach though, it would have a much better chance of surviving if not flourishing.

      The design aspect is another matter entirely. Personally I think you’d be better off creating a new game engine than using RPG Maker’s engine because you’d be able to tailor your own mechanics, which would also help with streamlining and perf tuning. That would add a lot more development time though, it depends how many people you’d have to hand and how skilled they’d be.

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        • It also means you don’t have to have the same setting (e.g. you could set in in ancient times), you can scrap the gym leader arrangement and come up with something different (e.g. 7 guardians, 16 kings, 9 jarls etc) and it’s easier to touch on maturer/darker themes. Also perhaps permadeath and a more sophisticated physical/special/status system, depending on how hardcore you want to be.

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          • I’m not a huge fan of permadeath tbh, I’d rather have a system where they go to ‘the spirit world’ (an inaccessible form of storage) and can only be brought back by using a special item (one that has to be earned rather than bought probably).

            Darker story I can run with.

  28. Trees are weird…

    data Tree a = EmptyTree | TreeNode a (Tree a) (Tree a)

    treeNode x = TreeNode x EmptyTree EmptyTree

    instance (Show a) => Show (Tree a) where
    show (EmptyTree) = “()”
    show (TreeNode x l r) = foldl (++) “” [“(“, (show x), “: “, (show l), “, “, (show r), “)”]

    instance Functor Tree where
    fmap _ (EmptyTree) = EmptyTree
    fmap f (TreeNode x l r) = TreeNode (f x) (fmap f l) (fmap f r)

    insert v (EmptyTree) = treeNode v
    insert v (TreeNode x EmptyTree r) = TreeNode x (treeNode v) r
    insert v (TreeNode x l EmptyTree) = TreeNode x l (treeNode v)
    insert v (TreeNode x l r) = TreeNode x (insert v l) r

    main = print $ foldr (insert) EmptyTree [1..10]

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  29. Ok so I got a team in mind for Sun
    The Must have one on the team:
    Pyukumuku
    The ones that are a definite
    Rowlet
    Lycanroc
    Vikavolt
    Turtonator
    Ninetails/Pasissman

    And for the ones that I might consider:
    Alolan Raichu
    Sandslash
    Marowak
    Type: Null
    Jangam-O
    Solgaleo (even though I prefer not to use Legends, I love Solgaleo so much)

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  30. Would anyone here be willing to help me make a game similar to pokemon but very different at the same time? I want to make sure before making a forums post, I can see the interest in a pokemon fan game because this is a pokemon website, but this isn’t that. Anyone willing to try and help? Even if it’s just ideas?

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    • I said that a month or so ago and someone poo-pooed the idea.

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks she’s probably got Alolan connections.

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        • They just moaned that I was making assumptions based on her skin colour.

          To be fair I kind of am, her skin tone is very close to Hau’s.

          But don’t forget, only her grandparents have been seen, her parents could easily be Alolan, or at least one parent. She might be half Alolan, half Hoennian.

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          • It’s bloody idiotic to moan about skin colour when you have this clearly heavily polynesian inspired character and then a game set in Hawaii… I’m rooting for her to appear, it’d be great!

          • In all fairness, most of Hawaii’s population are asian, only 10% are native.

            But yeah, she’s the most polynesian character in all of the first 6 generations.

            And she comes from a region that introduced a pokemon that looks like a moai XD

            Damn, alolan Nosepass would have been good :C

          • In french games, Fantina is also English, just saying 😉 . If she’s supposed to be english in the japanese games, that might be the main headcanon, and it might just be the english version that’s the odd one out by making her french just so she was still foreign-sounding.

          • I know, but I didn’t want to confuse things and make people think I was implying she spoke more French in the English game than English 😛

            The English version probably is the odd one out, that’s what I’m saying. She wouldn’t turn up in Kalos because she’s not French.

          • Probably because the other language versions were localised under the same roof. I take the Japanese version to be most canon.

      • Maybe we get to battle her post game or findo out the village or island she came from. Now that I think about it isn’t one of the island guardians theorized to be a ghost type?

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  34. my least favorite E4. Imo design wise and character wise they didnt really did that. Drake is the only one that is kinda of memorable mainly because of Salamence. Plus their teams were just bad. Sydney team is really the only unique one

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  35. Finally an E4 I don’t mainly feel “eh” about (no offence to the previous leagues, tbh that’s generally how I feel about gym leaders etc, I think they’re perfectly well designed, but none of them tend to stand out too much), and I’m going for Phoebe because I just love her design, with Drake a close second.

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  37. Sorry guys, I’m actually not ready to try and make a completely new game just yet. I don’t know nearly enough about programming, but I’m going to spend my time learning. When I’m ready, if anyone is still interested I’ll let you know! Sorry for wasting your time, I’ve had a long day.

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  39. Ubisoft’s CEO has recently talked about the NX! Here’s what he said:
    “The new Nintendo [console] is a fantastic machine. It’s really a new approach, it’s really Nintendo, [which is] coming with something new again. We love it.”

    Ubisoft is confirmed to be working on a some new NX games and ports. Also, the NX will be doing something new. They’re already supporting more of the system than the Wii U. Nintendo needs to hurry up and show the system. Here is the link for a bit more information: http://nintendoeverything.com/ubisoft-says-nx-is-fantastic-also-a-new-approach-its-really-nintendo/

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  41. Phoebe because she’s a sexy young thing. lol. Also, it’s awesome to have a Ghost-Type Member! She impressed me a but of difficulty when I was younger. She’s always been my Hoenn favourite for a while!

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    • Says the guy who praised Bruno a few weeks ago, and let’s be honest, there’s someone who could probably used those words at you come the next least Earthen.

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        • Nothing at all. I like the guy, but at the same time it comes across as a bit like “the pot calling the kettle black” when you openly say that you love one character for your reasons, but then tell people to shut up for loving a character and assuming its because of lewd reasons.

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          • I have no intention of ever insulting peoples choices, but my general feelings are that in return you shouldn’t insult my choices either. Its more of a mutual respect. Disagree all you want, but don’t put words in peoples mouth’s or assume that everyone selects a character for the same reason. Star like’s a lot of ladies that are considered attractive, but at the same time that doesn’t mean every person who votes for one is simply judging off of appearances.

            As an aside, I actually really like the Drake memes. he was one of the few things I liked about Gen 3. Really I only wish that he wasn’t a dragon trainer, as he never really struck me as the dragon sort. More steel, or water, or something else. Just not dragon.

            Also again, comments were never directed at you pharap. you’ve always been cool in my book.

          • Ah, I took ‘you’ to be a specific case (me) rather than a general case. I thought you thought I’d been insulting Star’s choices.

            (I’ll admit my writings can come across as harsh at times, but are meant in jest 95% of the time. I’m used to harsher environments where people disagree with sharp tongues, but mean well in doing so.)

            I could imagine him as a Water trainer. I think the reasoning behind the Dragons is because he was inspired by famous pirates and explorers, a vast amount of whom are English (Edward “Blackbeard” Teach, Sir Walter Raleigh, Cpt James Cook, Sir Francis Drake) and England’s most treasured myth is that of St George and the Dragon.

            I’m glad to know I’m accepted/appreciated. Like I say, I have ended up in arguments here before (a notable one being with Fae, but given his leaving, I get the impression I’m not the only one he’s argued with).

  47. As much as I love Phoebe’s design and her personality, I have to go with Drake. I just like his personality a bit more, and his dialogue when I played through ORAS is kind of intense xD (I hardly remembered if he said similar things since back then, I never got to the E4)

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        • I’m pretty convinced of Akala, but the other two I’m unsure of. Logically it should be the desserty one, but logic hasn’t applied much this year.

          You can feel free to comment and add stuff now if you think of anything btw, I think it’s got enough content to get the ball rolling. It’s unfortunate that I waited so long, but tbh the last few trailers really helped pad it out.

          If you’ve got transcripts of any of the things you’ve translated so far to hand I could start some discussions for translations/transcripts and give you full credit. You could start them yourself if you want (just tag them with Serious and Evidence, or whatever else seems appropriate). It’s up to you though, don’t feel you have to retranslate stuff if you’ve lost your translations, it’s just if you kept your transcripts (I only managed one).

          As far as I’m aware, nowhere else has been keeping a map that looks into the locations, so that’s a unique selling point right there 😛

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          • I think I have the transcript of the Gladion/Aether FOundation trailer, because I saved it to Note to work on it since it wasn;t ready to for me to comment before I left for classes

          • If you find it (doesn’t matter if you don’t) you can either stick it in a discussion and we’ll tweak as and when we feel like it, or you can hold onto it in the hopes you’ll get round to having another go at it.

            I intend to let other people in as time goes by, but I want to make sure things stay reasonably on topic because I want it to be more of a resource to help people keep track of what’s been legitimately confirmed and to fill in the gaps that the official websites leave. The only reason I’ve got a few tiny bits of speculation at the minute (to the purposes of various locations) is because I need to bulk the pages out a bit.

            Hopefully more trailers will show more areas or give more hints.

            Also, if you want to practise your Japanese, there’s a miniseries of the Japanese youtube channel called something along the lines of “Battoru onii-san” (typically the videos have a single number prominent in the titles) which features a pokemon obsessed geek teaching two kids Pokemon battle tactics. There’s no subs, but being Pokemon related it’s fun to watch, and despite being in another language, the battles are easy to follow. If nothing else there’s a pokemon profile at the end of the episodes that’s good for teaching Pokemons’ Japanese names (today I learnt Snorlax = Kabigon). If you don’t like it, fair enough, but I’ve found it pretty handy.

          • I’ll probably have a crack at that myself later in the week. I need to get to bed now, I’m supposed to be trying to get back to normal human hours and it’s 3am here (I’m on UTC+01:00 because daylight savings)

            I know for definate you, me and Daniel had a go at the Aether and Skull trailers, so there will be stuff in those articles. Not sure about elsewhere. I might go back and translate some of the other stuff as well.

  50. I would pick Phoebee but she uses all the same Pokemon. Two dusclops, two bannetes, and then a sable eye. Big whoop. I chose Sydney because he’s the only one with a legit team that doesn’t include any copies

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  51. Wow ok… Glacia needs to be in first

    the two dudes look like and act like trash, (only kinda in the act like part)
    and phoebe is boring. Glacia ftw!
    Honestly why would anyone pick Phoebe

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  52. also theirs a mistake on the board
    Glacia only has Sealeo
    and a better explanation of drake’s name is because Dragon’s are also known as drakes but in a younder form

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  54. A bit more info about the pokemon design I posted earlier:

    Its original name was Bushfyre (it’s actually an old design from about
    5-7 years ago, and it wasn’t originally a pokemon design, but I’ve
    revamped it).

    Some lore of its role as a pokemon:

    Its
    entire body is coated in a flame resistant resin that makes it immune to
    fire damage. Inside its body is a special organ that generates flamable
    gasses that are moved around its body via a secondary circulatory
    system. It has various vent like holes with which it can release and
    ignite the gas, granting it flame controlling abilities. Despite this,
    its body is made of wood and it retains leaves around its arms and face.
    It is said to have evolved to be immune to the ferocious forest fires
    that it encounters due to it living in proximity to an active volcano.

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  58. AHHH Shiny Cresselia appeared!! Tomorrow would have been the fourth week that I’ve been looking! I’ so scared to engage the battle. I’m going to be counting the moves so it won’t struggle. Heal balls or premier!?

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    • No freaking duh……I mean come on people….does anyone actually believe they’d scrap such a huge addition to the series after only one gen? Megas won’t be the center of attention that’s for sure, but they certainly aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. By the logic people are going with we should conpletely get rid of the existing baby Pokemon, cross gen evos, and whatever else that hasn’t been mentioned yet for the games. Just because they aren’t doing brand new megas for this gen doesn’t mean they’re going away for good…..sheesh hahaha

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  65. The whole Kalos anime series was so damn good and looked promising for the future. They are literally flushing that all down the drain with Clemont/Bonnie’s farewell, Serena’s farewell and the biggest shock of all, the release of Greninja. At this point I’m actually sort of done with Pokemon in general. They keep doing this to us over and over again, there is no justifying it.

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