Chinese Riddler Makes Us Solve Their Leaks

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Riddle me this, Zubatman

Some of you may have heard about the mysterious Chinese leaker who hasn’t actually leaked anything concrete, but instead gives clues as to what is in the upcoming Nintendo 3DS titles Pokémon Sun & Moon. They seem eerily accurate in rather unique ways. Here’s most of what they’ve gotten right so far:

  • Pyroar & Zubat before the reveal of Solgaleo & Lunaala
  • Pikachu covered in a sheet prior to seeing Mimikyu
  • Image of rock-paper-scissors and innards (?) before Pyukumuku
  • Sandcastle & shovel for Sandygast & Palossand
  • A skeleton on cloth for Team Skull

aristotleThere are still a few unsolved mysteries left to figure out, however. A bust of Aristotle that was posted remains a mystery; some say that Type: Null could be what the Riddler was referring to, others are not as sure. There’s also a grid of Pokémon which shows officially revealed (or, with the starter evolutions, leaked) Pokémon with some teasingly marked with question marks. It even hints that Marshadow may not even be the third legendary, it could simply be an event Pokémon.

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Underneath that are also small sprites of Pokémon which may appear in the games (colored) or get an Alolan form (faded). If this is correct, and that is the meaning behind it, we could expect Alolan forms for the following Pokémon:

  • Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur
  • Voltorb, Electrode
  • Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra
  • Staryu, Starmie
  • Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z
  • Gen II starters
  • Chinchou, Lanturn
  • Larvitar, Pupitar, Tyranitar
  • Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein
  • Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus
  • Hawlucha

Certainly would be exciting to see some for Pokémon outside of the original Red & Blue!

anabel-spriteThey’ve also posted a picture of Anabel who runs the Battle Tower in the Battle Frontier in Pokémon Emerald! Does this mean the Tower returns? Or the whole damn Frontier?! An exciting prospect for many who pined for its return in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. Junichi Masuda has claimed that its omission had been because players nowadays want faster gratification from their games and he didn’t think it would be widely appreciated.

colressSo what is the current fuss about? It just so happens that the Riddler’s avatar is none other than Colress, a villainous researcher and Team Plasma’s second leader from Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 who sought to unlock the ultimate strength within Pokémon. Definitely Z-Move vibes from his past motivations and he even hinted that he wanted to make a device that allowed humans and Pokémon to communicate; could he have been the developer of the Rotom Dex?!

Some fans even claim that Colress was seen during the recent trailer in the Aether Foundation’s headquarters, but the evidence is tenuous at best.

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They’ve also hinted that there may be multiple professors in Alola, but whether this means other professors from previous regions may make an appearance or that Prof. Kukui is not the only Alolan Pokémon professor is still up in the air.

Perhaps the most interesting information is that of the potential Alolan forms, but there’s certainly enough to speculate about for the moment! WHAT DO YOU THINK?!

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733 thoughts on “Chinese Riddler Makes Us Solve Their Leaks”

  1. Marshadow might be a Psychic/Water or Psychic/Dark hinting Mar(ine)Shadow it might be the real threat not Yveltal? And it could cause a tsunami? Marine means found by sea if you thought the marines in camouflage lol

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  2. Are we to assume that the pokemon shown in the bottom of the leaker’s image are everything (excluding new pokemon and known alola forms) that will be available in the Alola dex? If so, outside of a few that evolve from pokemon in early generations and Rotom (who is required because of the dex itself), only two Sinnoh lines are found in the region (Garchomp and Lucario). Does this make Diamond and Pearl remakes any more likely?

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  3. I can prove this may be false knowing rival Pokemon almost always appear together in a game series like Electabuzz and Magmar yet no Magmar, Vullaby and Rufflet yet no Vullaby

    Also why would Munchlax be Available if it were event only this part is less accurate but maybe true

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    • two things:

      1. Perhaps the absence of rival pokemon means that their going to be given alolan forms? Again we have no idea what the list means. It could mean that those shaded in are those we’ve seen, and the faded ones are pokemon that are confirmed, but haven’t been sceen yet.

      2. The Munchlax were getting via event has happy hour, a move only event pokemon can have, and comes with that z stone that might be an event exclusive item. Nothing about that though means that we won’t be able to obtain a munchlax in the wild.

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      • For the Munchlax what caused the theory is from the Torchic event is the only way to get it and the item so it was an assumption

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  4. It’s a good read from the director of the games for anyone who didn’t see it:

    “Why I chose “Sun” and “Moon” for the titles
    We live on a planet overflowing with life. This earth of ours revolves around the sun, and in turn, the moon revolves around the earth. When you look at the sun and the moon from Earth, they appear to be traveling through the sky in similar orbits, but when you change your perspective, you come to realize that their orbits are completely different. Yet the Earth and the sun and moon are all tied to one another, and life grows and flourishes as they work their influence upon one another.

    Humans also interact with people of all different kinds. They influence one another, and in turn, are influenced by others. It is only through this miraculous balance that we can live here as we do.

    In these titles, what I wanted to express is the brilliance of life and of the relationships between humans and Pokémon as they influence one another. That is why I chose to name them after the sun and moon, which have so much influence over our own Earth.”

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  5. Man I haven’t been able to get on here as much as I want to because I’ve been real busy but for right now I have two things to as
    1. Are we gonna get an Alolan Persian since we saw both Rattat and Raticate or did they just show us fat Raticate to tell us about the differences in the games?
    2.What if in the dimensions that the Ultra Beasts are in Pokemon aren’t in pokeballs and thats why they’re not considered Pokemon?

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      • The official site pretty much states they aren’t. I just think he put it there arbitrarily… Not to hint that it’s a pokemon

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      • Also it appears to be a Buddhist staff next to it, Zhuge Liang i’m certain of, and some anime guy and I’m guessing someone well known in Japan or china. Maybe like their names combine to hint at something?

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      • That’s one of the things that makes me think this is fake.
        Nobody who actually knows what Rugby is would confuse it with American Football.

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    • I think this proves we shouldn’t read too much into this.
      He left Cutiefly’s evolution out of the first one, which may indicate he had no knowledge of it, which may indicate this isn’t the same person, it’s someone else just piggybacking off of other rumours.

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  11. I REALLY REALLY hope the battle frontier returns, or at least something along those lines. They were actually challenging and a lot of fun, and actually added something to the post game. But seeing how cryptic these leaks are, I believe Anabel to be something less obvious.

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      • Agreed completely. Having trouble with the tower today? Go to the factory! Don’t like the pike? Go to the (insert something here)! The variety made it infinitely better than the maison.

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    • Not really, most of his riddles are really obvious once they get announced. For example, before Lunala and Solgaleo, he posted a picture of Zubat and Litleo. Before Bewear’s name, he told people to “Beware of fake leaks” or something like that. Before Team Skull, he posted a picture of a cloth with a skull on it.

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          • Sun and Moon are the last games in the timeline (before new games eventually get made). ORAS takes place around the same time as the events in Gen 1. XY take place around the same time as the events in BW2. And we know Sun and Moon take place after XY now because Dexio and Sina.

          • Ah, I get it. Yesterday I heard a few people refering to SM being the latest games, and it confused me. Thanks for filling me in! 🙂

          • Dexio refers to XY being in the past, and XY is after RS, so if RS and ORAS are at the same time, SM should be after ORAS

          • I made a post much earlier, but I guess I’ll copy and paste it.

            “TCRowlet 5 hours ago
            Also, the Frontier should absolutely be returning. I don’t buy that interview with Masuda, I still own it up to a mistranslation from multiple times over, or just not wanting to tip hands as to what they had in store for the future. But ORAS dropped so many hints to the Frontier returning, something GameFreak does all the time, but they outright told us it was basically coming back and to stay tuned.
            – Battle Tower model on Battle Resort, with a sign that says the Battle Frontier project has started.
            – References to Brandon in both XY and ORAS.
            – NPC says scouting of the “Pike Queen” is done, and will anyone else measure up to Scott’s expectations.
            – Battle Chatelaine Morgan has this to say in ORAS after defeating her in Super Rotation:
            “Just the outcome I would expect… Honestly, I’m not telling fibs! You really are the Trainer I thought you were, aren’t you now, pet? Heh heh… Might I ask something? Would you consider becoming the owner here? Me sisters and I have to be returning to our Battle Maison in Kalos someday. I suppose we’d feel safe trusting you with the Battle Maison name. There would also be the matter of our plans to build an even more impressive battle facility in the area. If we get our ducks in a row now, we may make oodles when we leave here. No more talk about it now, but do consider the idea, won’t you, pet? Well then, I wait eagerly for our next battle and for your favorable reply!””

            These hints combined with a credible leaker now posting a picture of Anabel? I’m willing to believe 🙂

          • I want to believe, I really do, but I need to keep my expectations low. Battle frontier was so great, that would be one of the highest expectations yet. That being said, going off of this evidence, is this suggesting that the battle frontier we will supposedly visit is the hoenn one, on the same island from ORAS? I guess it makes sense.

          • I mean, these hints would suggest that it is on the battle resort (I believe it was called?) if Scott was there and they had a scale model.

      • I agree with this, yet the battle frontier returning would be the obvious choice, and nothing has been anounced, leading me to think it won’t. But I’ll hold onto hope. Maybe the negative reaction from the removal of it in ORAS got their attention.

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          • GameFreak always hints at future plans, and while a lot of the times they are subtle, they’ve been blatant about a couple things in the last 2 entries:
            1) The backpacker in XY who was hyping up Sun and Moon
            2) Battle Frontier

            If Battle Frontier doesn’t return, I will be absolutely shocked. Literally ORAS just screams it’s coming everyone! Just hold out a little longer, we have something big in store!

          • You’re definitely right in the sense that in pokemon games, every little hint usually means something. All we can do is wait, post game features like these likely would be kept until release.

  12. I need your help. I need a new anime to watch. I’ve seen the “major” ones (death note, naruto, bleach, AOT, fullmetal alchemist) and have no idea on what to watch next. What to you recommend based on the list I gave? And should I maybe give pkm a chance again? (stopped watching in the beginning of Best Wishes)

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  14. There’s a monkey who has a baseball mitt (nothing to do with rugby) and three more Pokemon. Two of which are in the same line, both Electric/Dark. It’s some electric eel with a giant hook on its belly. It looks like the hook spins around or drops down like a fishing hook. The evolution is a larger version with an anchor instead of a hook. The third is a Steel/Bug and it’s basically a giant conch shell with spikes around the perimeter of the body, as if it’d roll on the ground.

    Rockruff has two evolutions depending on if it’s night or day.

    Guzma offers you to work with him near the end of the game. You can buy Team Skull cosmetic items.

    The starters do not have split-evolutions.

    Rowlet’s middle evolution is basically a shorter version of the final evolution, but the bow tie is long.

    Hau has Krabby in his team.

    Plumeria used a Litten while Lillie declines to take a Pokemon.

    Lillie has a Zygarde Core in her bag.

    You can buy Mega Stones (which work in the Z-Ring) in a shop that opens up once you beat the game. You can Mega Evolve Alolan Alakazam, which is pure Fighting.

    Lunala is #822.

    Pyukumuku doesn’t evolve while Cutiefly does.

    Gigareki has nothing to do with Sun/Moon. (Gigareki has been confirmed to be the title of another game)

    Battle Frontier, AZ, Zygarde, and you can take the SS Anne to Kanto. All in the post-game?

    Marshadow has two forms. It has the Solar Eclipse Forme which is Poison/Fire, and Lunar Eclipse Forme which is Poison/Ice. It has a history with Zygarde and capturing it is Team Skull’s objective.

    There are 16 Trial Captains, one for each type minus Dark and Poison. Four for each island. Guzma and Plumeria kinda act like captains of Dark and Poison, respecitively, except it’s a lot more battle-based and less gimmicky “task” based.

    Alola forms are exclusively Generation 1. Alolan Corphish was planned according to its Pokedex entry.

    We’ve only seen about half of the Alola forms.

    Mimikyu doesn’t evolve. A little girl gives us one early on in the game (it can be Shiny). We can catch it later on in the wild, maybe about a third of the way into the main storyline.

    Pikipek stays as a Normal/Flying woodpecker. The beak apparently becomes much larger, sword-esque design.

    You begin at the bottom of Kanto after being dropped off by the ship and can work your way up the region.

    Guzma is “a Poison guy”, there’s some joke regarding his “toxicity” as a person. He uses an Alolan Nidoking near the end of the game, which is Poison/Fighting. He uses Skuntank as well.

    Hala lets you take over Mele Mele Island as Kahuna, which lets you give people tasks on collecting items and possibly Pokemon.

    Mimikyu’s Shiny is dark purple and the black spirit underneath is white.

    Magearna is an additional man-made part of the Tapu Koko totem pole with the others. Magearna is obtainable as a Pokemon in the normal storyline.

    You can bond/merge/fuse with the final evolution of your starter.

    The types of the final evolutions are Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark, and Water/Fairy.

    You can change the color of your Z-Ring and you can buy Team Skull clothes.

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  15. Wait, Type: Null is a human-made Pokemon using DNA of other Pokemon… what else was? Mewtwo.
    What if Blaine, Fuji, and/or Giovanni are in S/M, along with Colress for the Aether Foundation…
    I know, just fan-boying over here.

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  16. Also the pokedex thing he posted has to be somewhat off. It’s extremely hard to believe that pokemon like Morelull, Salandit, Bounsweet, and Wimpod are single stage.

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  18. Seeing as how many new pokemon we’ve seen so far, and we’re only a little over halfway into the new release cycle, I’m betting we’ll get 105-110 new pokemon with 20-25 alola forms. What do you all think?

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    • yeah you got it. The problem though is that its really kind of hard to figure out what that thing is. Like I”m guessing its a Buddhist monks staff or something like that. Any ideas?

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      • No. I’m not sure what that is. But I know the thing to it’s right is a football player, which indicates that rugby monkey from the other Chinese leaker. And it looks like two football players squeezed into the one image, indicating it has an evolution.

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        • Yeah that makes sense. I think the fan guy is Zhuge Liang, a famous strategist from the epic of the three kingdoms, and I nave no idea what that last one is though.

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  20. Out of the 151 original Kanto Pokemon…

    Only 10 have been revealed as new Alola forms. These include…
    Vulpix, Ninetales, Sandshrew, Sandslash, Exeggutor, Meowth, Raichu, Marowak, Rattata, and Raticate, with Persian most likely having an Alola form as well.

    And about 24 have been revealed to not have Alola forms, according to trailers and the Japanese Pokemon site. These include…
    Gyarados (and by proxy Magikarp), Spearow, Cubone, Exeggcute, Pikachu, Arcanine (and by proxy Growlithe), Alakazam (and by proxy Abra and Kadabra), Dragonite (and by proxy Dratini and Dragonair), Zubat, Pinsir, Lapras, Psyduck, Slowpoke, Poliwhirl (and by proxy, Poliwag), Hypno (and by proxy, Drowzee) and Snorlax.

    We can also probably assume that Charizard, and the other original starter Pokemon will not have Alola forms, and that the legendaries won’t either. That knocks out 9 starters and 5 legendaries, that’s another 14.

    If we go further and exclude the 12 Kanto Pokemon that have Mega Evolutions, we can knock out Aerodactyl, Kangaskhan, Ghastly, Haunter, Gengar, Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill, Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeot, and Slowbro.

    That brings it down to 91 Pokemon that we don’t know whether they will have Alola forms or not.

    I want to take it a step farther though. I want to knock out Pokemon that have final evolutions that aren’t counted in the original 151. These include Golbat (Crobat), Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume (Bellossom), Poliwrath (Politoed), Magnemite and Magneton (Magnezone), Onix (Steelix), Lickitung (Lickilicky), Rhyhorn and Rhydon (Rhyperior), Chansey (Blissey), Tangela (Tangrowth), Horsea and Seadra (Kingdra), Scyther (Scizor), Eevee, Vaporeon, Flareon, and Jolteon (the rest of the Eeveelutions), Electabuzz (Electivire), Magmar (Magmortar), and Porygon (Porygon 2 and Porygon-Z). That’s another 23 Pokemon that I’m pretty certain won’t get Alola forms, since if they do, their evolutions would probably get Alola forms as well that wouldn’t be in the original 151.

    Boom, we’re down to only 68 Pokemon left. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Ditto, Kabuto, Kabutops, Omanyte, and Omastar aren’t going to get Alola forms either, being unique in their own right, which brings us to only 63 Pokemon.

    Out of the 63 Pokemon remaining, who do you think will get Alola forms or not? Your guess is as good as mine!

    Also consider that many of the later Pokemon games have populated wildlife of various generations, so it’s a bit ridiculous to assume that all of the Kanto Pokemon are going to be available in the wild in the game. It’s likely that there really won’t be all that many Alola forms. I’m going to guess maybe… 25-30 max.

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    • Yeah I’m think 25-30 as well, though hoping for at least 50. Really want Pokemon that didn’t get a mega evo to get one. So guess My top candidates I want to see are Tangela, Ponyta/Rapidash, The elemental punchers (Jynx/Electrabuzz/Magmar), Koffing/Weezing, Grimer/Muk, Magnemite/Magneton and Voltorb/Electrode

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  21. My prediction info release cycle until the release of SM:
    ————————
    September 11-15 (CoroCoro)
    September 21-24 (Something small, maybe 2 or 3 new pokemon)
    October 1-4 (Monthly big news drop, like yesterday)
    October 11-15 (CoroCoro)
    October 23-26 (I feel like since we have no CoroCoro in November, they’ll spread out the news more.)
    November 8-11 (Something big)
    November 17 (Last minute stuff, probably final evos of starters)
    ————–
    So that’s how I think the next two months will play out.

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    • What do you mean there’s no Corocoro in November? Corocoro comes out on the 15th, SM isn’t out until the 18th…

      Other than that, seems reasonable. I’m expecting one more news drop this month to announce the stuff in Corocoro, then 3 official news drops in October and November (not counting Corocoro).

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    • OMG I didn’t forget, I’m just lazy. I still need to do 100% of the work I need to do on my team. It isn’t much, but I just haven’t done it. xD

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        • I have everything planned out, I have for two weeks. It’s the actual training and breeding part that I haven’t done. I need one more IV on one pokemon, and then I need to train two pokemon, and I’m good. I could easily get it done in around a half hour, but I just don’t want to. xD

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  25. I see lot of people doubting the Riddler…..To that I say you obviously don’t see what he’s doing. He’s called the Riddler for a reason. Even before we got any solid info he was predicting and hinting at all kinds of things like Solgaleo/Lunala and the starters animals. at this point he’s one of the most credible leakers out there. He’s just leaking in a way that’s very different from what we typically see. I for one appreciate the way he’s doing it.

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