Sun & Moon Speculation Pt. IX: Lillie’s Plan & Z-Move Connection

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For a while now, speculation been floating around the internet concerning the character Lillie. Her bio on the game’s website calls her “mysterious” and says that she will have “an important role in the story.” Beyond that, we don’t have much more to go on. Which, of course, means that rumors and theories have been popping up everywhere. Some say that Lillie will be working with the villainous team, recently revealed as the gangstas of Team Skull. (Although, let’s face it, PMD Team Skull is OG.) Others say that she has a connection to the Kalos region. Some theories say both, or close to it.

lillie-bridgeSince Lillie’s initial character reveal several months ago, The Pokémon Company has focused more on revealing new Pokémon and characters rather than adding to what we know about already-revealed characters. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, since it means less story spoilers coming our way, but it does mean that we’re probably not going to learn anything more about Lillie until Sun and Moon release this November. Thanks to the lack of info, most theories and speculation about Lillie’s character and her role in the story are based mostly on rumors, and maybe a little bit on wishful thinking. Which means that most of these Lillie theories come out sounding a bit… wait for it… Farfetch’d. (Yes, I went there.) So, I thought it would be fun to come up with a theory based on what we do know.

Right now, the only solid information we have on Lillie is from her bio on Pokémon Sun and Moon’s website and the gameplay clip shown at E3 2016. Her bio says that she’s an assistant to Professor Kukui “for personal reasons,” she’s a huge bookworm and she doesn’t like making Pokémon fight in battles. In the clip from E3, she seemed worried that the player’s and Hau’s Pokemon would get hurt in their battle during the village festival.

The question is, what kind of “personal reasons” are Lillie’s motivation in working for Professor Kukui? Most theories assume that this part of the bio must mean that Lillie is actually working for the Professor out of selfish motives. But how boring would it be if the innocent, anxious young girl who everyone expects to be secretly a villain actually turns out to be secretly a villain? The main series Pokémon games aren’t exactly known for their brilliant storytelling, but Gen 5 threw us a few curveballs (Pokémon GO reference not intended), and personally, I’d like the plot to be less obvious more often.

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Every Pokémon Professor so far has had a specific area of expertise, and Professor Kukui is no different. According to his bio on the Pokemon Sun and Moon website, his research focuses on Pokémon moves. It also says that he’s even willing to take hits from Pokémon moves if he thinks he can learn something from the experience. A Pokémon Professor’s area of expertise usually has to do with some new feature introduced in the new games, and with Sun and Moon introducing Z-moves, this generation looks like it’s going to be no exception. However, if Lillie’s concerned about Pokémon getting hurt by Pokémon moves, she would probably also be concerned about people getting hurt by Pokémon moves. To be fair, this isn’t completely unreasonable for her to be worried about. Pokémon can let loose some really powerful elemental energy, and the stronger the Pokémon, the greater damage it’s capable of. What if Lillie’s “personal reasons” for assisting with Professor Kukui’s research into Pokémon moves are that she’s trying to find a way to neutralize moves in order to keep people and Pokémon from getting hurt?

lillie-stairsIf a Pokémon’s moves were neutralized, then that Pokémon wouldn’t be able to battle, which would really upset the premise of the game series as a whole. And with Team Skull running around Alola wreaking havoc, things would work out pretty well for them if only their Pokémon could battle. It’s possible that Lillie might still be involved with Team Skull, either out of pure intentions or as an unwilling victim. It could be that Team Skull might trick Lillie into sharing her research with them by convincing her that they’ll help her in her quest to keep Pokémon and people safe, only to have them turn on her and use her research for their own selfish goals. However, Team Skull is so obviously bad, even for Pokémon villains, that Lillie would have to be ridiculously naive in order to fall for it. It’s more likely that Team Skull will hear about her research and steal it from her so that they can neutralize the moves of any Pokémon that dares stand against them. With the results of Lillie’s research in hand, Team Skull would be invincible – except for the only moves strong enough to break through their new defenses, Z-moves. This puts the game’s new feature into the story, with the player having to master Z-moves in order to beat Team Skull.

Or maybe I’ve completely missed the mark. We won’t know for sure until November.

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  1. Challenge for you all, what are two pokemon that represent one of your favourite non-pokemon video game characters? I would say Lilligant and Bellsprout, bonus points if you know what character mine is (hint its from the legend of zelda) whats yours?

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  12. I guess I never introduced myself. You all can call me “Q”. I’ve been a lurker for quite some time and decided to join. You all seem pretty cool.

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  13. I saw Fae’s comment about the Non-Pokemon games and stuff. It’s too far down, so I’ll put it here

    1. Rotom and Mr. Mime
    2. Spinarak and Kirlia
    3. Yamask and Phantump

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  16. You guys saw the New Galaxy Style 3DS XL today? Something is definitely unusual with this. I’ve been thinking recently that Nintendo should start some kind of ARG for the NX reveal, and I feel like this may be very close to that. Reggie…announcing a new 3DS color in a video? I refuse to believe it. Maybe the new system is called the Nintendo Now (notice his inflection) or Nintendo Galaxy? I have no idea, I’m just insane at this point.

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  19. So I was gonna get the SuMo steel case from Amazon using my prime account…..That may have a dream that I won’t fulfill however now…. My prime renews in October and I was hoping that my student discount would stick around for at least one more renewal, but it didn’t…..I’m not surprised it’s not going to, but hey that’s life. lol Anyway that means that the price will go up from $50 to $100 for prime and I ain’t doing that crap! lol so I guess I’ll just go with my usual plan and get the game from Best Buy. I won’t be getting both right away however. Was gonna spend the extra cash for the steel case, but since that’s out there’s no point hahaha Anyway I think my one fear about getting it now is what the weather will be like in November. Back in 2014 when ORAS came out There was a terrible snow storm that closed everything in my area for at least half a week. ( I live in Western New York by Lake Erie) Had to down’load ORAS instead as I wasn’t about to wait lol I’d prefer not to do that again however as I like going to buy the games at the store lol

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  20. Ok so I have something to say and I hope all the mods and gym leaders hear it and if you ban me I’m ok with it because I am in a mood. This is not a nice or accepting community and all it has caused me is complete and utter grief, and no one seems to stand up for themselves except the time I am about to refer to where @shadydawood:disqus basically explained to us all his distain for wallace and made it very clear he was hating on feminine men, and in his responses all he did was comment with rude and hateful remarks and what did the staff do? they said that we were both at fault, which quite frankly is garbage, he posts offensive material all the time and when he gets called out, he will cus you out and attack you even just for a suggestion, and still staff does nothing, when really he should have been banned long ago for being so hateful, but since no one is every going to do anything and he is just going to continue to be a prick to everyone and everything, please. just fucking ban me from the site because I never want to return, the nice people on here are not enough to stay when the hate from others comes blasting in. I am a giant rainbow friggen homo and I do not even care.

    also @Shady I hate you and you are not a good person and your heart is corrupt so rot. An yes I was the anon trolling you. Duh.

    Literally. Just. Ban. Me.

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    • Muhahahahaaaaaaaaa……………..I know u was this anon hahahaaaaaaaaaa

      When the devil come to u and told u wat should do he will ask me wat to do first…….u can’t trick me I am Shady.

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          • Hey! That’s enough Shady. Please. I hate when people fight here! Just stop. You guys shouldn’t be fighting at all ;~;

          • Yes I am because I was too lazy to unblock him, but I didn’t insult him, just told him not to post a picture about rape on here

          • If i was a coward I would “@” you and tell you directly to your face that it was me and you’re trash

          • im insulting you now yes because I have had enough of you insulting me and nobody doing anything about it. so the gloves are off now, before I wasn’t insulting you though

          • He just told you that the picture wasn’t appropriate for kids and as a kid, I’ll tell you that that is true…

          • did for just personal reason …and he did in this comment ….I didn’t know he was that stupid and Rancorous.

          • You literally make me want to try to kill myself again. Its people like you that make me hate this world.

          • I know it’s not my place to mediate, but I hate seeing you all fight, so I have to interject. Shady, please just give it up, and stop being rude. Whether you think you are or are not rude, the fact is that to others you are being rude, and that’s not good for a community like ours.
            And Aurora, please stop provoking Shady. It’s not accomplishing anything other than angering people, and I know you’re better than that. If you’re truly intent on leaving, you should do so quietly and with dignity; getting banned is no way to go.

          • At this point I’m not better than it and I’m literally on the verge of attempting to kill myself again so its not going to matter if I get banned, I’m stressed a mess and on my floor crying I cant deal with any of this and cant stop myself

          • I think I understand what you’re going through (I also understand that I might not), but the best thing for you is to just leave if you’re feeling that way. Something that’s this toxic for you can only harm you, and those of us who care about you would want you at your best. 🙂

          • I would have let it go but when he posted that picture today he triggered something that I have been dealing with for a year now and it ruined my life, its hard when you can still feel someones hands and breath on you a year later and the scratches on your skin, I know it sounds crazy but sometimes you don’t have control over what can trigger you and I have gone off the deep end now

          • don’t take it this emotional cuz he is ur friend …..the story was end 3 days ago y he try to make an impact with me again I just ignore him y he can’t.

          • I’m not defending either of you. I think of you both (and everyone else here) as my friends, and I want the very best for all of you. I just want it to be clear I haven’t taken a side, and I have no intention to.

          • so y u call me rude ?…..did u know we attack each other cuz he said that to me …..and he said all that shit and he is a nice guy.

          • every body know my english is bad …..I didn’t hate u …. I was just test my analyzing skills ….but u deserve to be banned cuz u promid deduresu.

          • Yeah if you hate gay people like everyone already knows you do, that means you hate me, and you are a garbage person and do not have a heart

    • You can just block him so his messages dont show up for you. I figured this out randomly today as my phone was being irritating and i accidentally blocked green.

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    • 🙁 if you do leave this place Fae, just know that the majority of us will miss you. We all get into arguments, I get it but I hope you can stay here and maybe block Shady if you don’t want to see his messages (nothing against him or you tho).

      At the end of the day it is your decision but I hope you can stay with the rest of the people here and enjoy our Pokemon discussions 😀

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  21. I need a power nap
    Legion starts in like 3 hrs 50 mins……I wish we can magically or biologically sleep and awaken at specific times

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        • Because I am a person who does not tolerate someone who’s only intention is to bully, hate and put others down and thats all I see him do, and I tried to be nice, I tried using humour but now I’m angry and fighting fire with fire because thats the only thing he knows, and I might pass out from the conflict but I can not let it go.

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          • no its just been a while, but I’m triggered as hell right now so thats why I’ve gone off the deep end, and I miss collin, but he didn’t care when I told him what happened to me, and I’m just a big ol mess and absolutely done.

          • Idk what happened to you two. I knew you broke up but didn’t know it was over a serious something.

          • it wasn’t I moved away, got raped and then moved back and he didn’t care and he was with a new guy a week after we had broken up. Thats why I’m angry, I knew what the picture was about and it brought back all the feelings of hands on my skin and the pain of the bruising, thats what happens when you get triggered, and so I asked him to remove it because I knew that if someone else came along I didn’t want them to go through that too, its better to be safe than sorry, yes I know I’m a mess, yes I know I threw away the best thing that ever happened to me because I thought with me out of the picture he would be more successful and yes I’m causing a scene on here, thats why I said ban me, because I’m a crazy mess right now that hasn’t slept more than 2 hours a night in over a year

          • its fine, I unfollowed you too in the hopes you would notice and think I’m a dick and unfollow me so that when I went off the deep end no one would notice, I don’t like to bother people

          • oh ok, well, thats why I did that if you did notice…. or did I just think I did… now I’m not sure, maybe I didn’t

          • You did. And I was going to unfollow back but I decided not to because you’re one of the handful of people I actually care for on twitter

          • yeah, I felt awful about it, considering I remember back to the good old days of me you and that princess of genovia guy were all just so terribly gay on here and it was wonderful, I think I’m going to take my leave now though, even though I have lost all my dignity

    • It’s times like these that I worry for the community. I can typically overlook the negativity, but I feel this may change the community unless something is done. 🙁

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      • Yeah, it makes me sad. I feel there have been a lot of arguments lately over trivial things. I don’t get why we can’t all just be friendly.

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        • I am sorry ultron and everyone else, but to me, its not trivial, I was ok, and had ignored his wallace comments, but when he posted that pic today it killed me a little inside and when he wouldn’t remove it and told me to f*ck off it just made me crazier. I’m sorry to everyone but not to shady

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          • I didn’t mean trivial in the sense that it’s unimportant. I meant more that it’s not something we should even have to discuss here since we’re all friends and supposed to be united by our love for pokemon. This issue matters to me too, I understand how you feel. It’s just petty to me that we even have to have these conversations at this point in time, let alone in a community such as this.

  25. Okay, I actually have to go to bed (mite use my phone tho) So Fae, if you do take a break from Pj, me and green can keep in touch with you thru twitter (only if you want to)

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