With the latest Pokémon Sun & Moon information, we can now say that the rumors seem to be true. Not only the Poké Riding, but at least with the leaked Starter Evolutions we can clearly see one of the Trial Captains in the art, and the final evolution of Litten is probably holding two of its middle evolutions.
4chan Rumor
For now these are going to be de-confirmed since a number of Pokémon listed appear not to be getting an Alolan form
The anime’s Ash-Greninja will appear in the gameAlolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-typeAlolan Butterfree is Bug/PsychicAlolan Abra, Kadabra & Alakazam are Fighting-typeAlolan Nidoking & Nidoqueen are Poison/Fighting-typeAlolan Growlithe & Arcanine are Water-typeAlolan Doduo & Dodrio are Fighting/Flying-typeThe previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older gamesFurfrou gets new stylesNew cat Pokémon varies in type and appearance based on breedingThere is a new snowman Pokémon line with two stages and it is Ice/GhostNot to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter
Chinese Rumor
- There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
- The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
- The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
- New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
- Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
- Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo
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Ground Types have way too many problems. They re the magikarps of typing rn
Rock types are weaker tbh.
Hi guys, I just woke up and I’m not sure how to process all of this… Can you guys lend me your thoughts cuz I’m kind of confused about the new forms for older pokemon and the new gym leader thingy. THIS IS SO WIERD
It’s weird, but I like it. Very interesting and it adds some good change to the core formulas of Pokemon, at least to me 🙂
I know but what about gym battles?
Well they are replaced with something that is them in all but name.
Instead of gyms, it’s the trials, the totem Pokemon, and the kahunas.
It’s not equal, but it’s close enough to that concept.
I doubt it’ll be permanent, it seems more of an Alola thing.
But who knows? I keep getting surprised with Pokemon even now 🙂
I love this unpredictability, it’s very exciting!
Yeah, definitely appreciated, keeps me on my toes. No matter how much i predict and theorize, GF likes to topple everything I do to the ground.
The new Alola form Pokemon are adaptions to the climate. They are the best.
But what about this trial thing. It’s not even a battle anymore. We aren’t getting 8 battles anymore??
There might be eight trails.
But they aren’t battles?
Aren’t exclusively battles. I feel like they will be battles, but after the other part of the trial.
they are still battles (maybe not all but you do battle at least some of them, possibly all of them)
I dunno I’m just as confused as you lol
4 trial masters + 4 kahunas = 8 pseudo leaders
But battles?
Alolan Formes are kinda like a Pokemon having Formes in different environments. Really fucking cool if you ask me.
But let’s not go overboard
Not everything will change based on environmental influences
But that’s Darwin’s evolution right?
Survival of the fittest, adapt or die.
Yeah! Adapt or die Earthen! (lol jk)
Adapt to the shift in the shape of your skull
*Wallop*
Darwin would be rolling over in his grave if he saw this
“What have I done?!?”
The ones that haven’t adapted just aren’t on these islands.
Yes indeed! And epigenetics confirms it as your environment can determine the expression of once repressed genes
Of course not all Pokemon are going to get formes.
It’s already confirmed that Exeggcute doesn’t get a form, so it’s not even whole lines that would get them. They seem to know how to incorporate real world logic into these variants.
Thanks to this news I’m starting to get a solid idea for my teams. In Moon, I’ll be using Alola-native Pokemon: Popplio, Mimikyu, Lurantis, and Minior. In Sun, I’ll use Alola variant Pokemon, with Exeggutor being the only one I’m sure on.
i hope we get a variant thats a ghost type
Banette variant:
lol, or mimikyu
Personally I don’t want to believe that the starters’ final stages are split unto two. I guess it could cool but it sucks that the other gen starters don’t get the same.
Also I hope that while this gen won’t have Megas that it doesn’t mean later gens wont have megas. Dang it I would at least want them to give megas to all the starters’ final stages if they were gonna discontinue that concept.
I have no doubt in my mind that Megas are back, but as a postgame feature.
Let’s hope, that’d be cool for postgame fun.
can someone tell me where they got the “wo final evolutions for each starter” thing???? actually, where did they get MOST of the brand new info???
4chan I’m pretty sure
ah thank you i’ll go look there
see my comment above
i went through and found some screenshots of it
I’m looking for the source too. I’m surfing 4chan but I can’t find it.
its old stuff that ended up coming true, not recent
Woah woah woah. Will Vulpix still use a fire stone to evolve?
Probably have to go to that ice rock like Glaceon does?
Or new Ice Stone, so Glaceon doesn’t have to.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out myself. Somewhere/someone [it was] said that transferring from gen 6 to gen 7 keeps the original typing and moves
Maybe the Pokemon you transfer from RBY will be Alolan. Have only seen Gen 1 changed typing right?
That true, yet odd.
They might have new stones, or a different method of evolution, like trading it while it’s holding a certain item. 😀
Since the Vulpix is Ice type itself there’s no reason why it couldn’t just evovle normally by leveling up.
I’m almost sure that ash is gonna get the cat in the anime. The bird final form would be too similar to greninja (mysterious and cool) and the water one… well, it’s quite obvious that that’s not gonna happen at all. lol
I’ve seen a lot of people complain about the Alola Forms,Island Trails, and Z-Moves. But I love them. Pokemon has been the same game for 19 years, we need change.
Gyms were always boring. Having different trials and Totem Pokemon is a breath of fresh air.
Alola Forms are a very cool idea. Ice/Fairy Ninetales is awesome. It also makes sense since the pokemon living in alola could have adapted and thus evolved differently
I don’t care about Z-Moves really. They could be related to Zygarde, and that’s what interests me.
New pokemon are awesome. I love the bird and how it varies from island to island. Not mention that awesome ability. Minior sucks. The two grass types are awesome. Yungoose evo is what I expected. I’m happy
That Mudsdale has a pre evo.
Riding is being improved and I’m very excited for it.
All in all, I love Everything revealed. The only thing bad about this leak is that it means the starter evos are legit. And I hate all of them.
Too long did not read sadly
You only say this to troll and say “I don’t care”, I am I reading that right? <3
Agreed, except for the starters. I actually like them. Idk why, but something had me hooked
Same, although I didn’t like Litten’s evo at first, it’s grown on me. I wouldn’t mind it if it was Fire/Dark and was more inspired by a heel wrestler like people are saying
Fire/Dark would make me happy. Though, I’m not opposed to Fire/Fighting, there’s already a good small amount of them.
True, there isn’t enough Fire/Fighting, but we had 3 starters go down the Fire/Fighting path, it just is old now, really.
I’ll still use it, but I’ll just be a bit disappointed if Litten turned out that way
Minior is so amazing! One of the only Rock types I like
Different base stats for the pokemon are cool like the Spec. Attack and Attack being flipped as well as Spec. Defence and Defence. That way pokemon teams can be more varried.
RIP Smogon’s sanity lol.
Poor Smogon.
And with the different forms/abilities, I feel sorry for all the people who need to handle all of that.
Variant typings existed in the TCG already before. Remember that Water-type Dragonite? And other things? Yeah!
The delta forms!
And Pokemon-EX as well.
We’ve already seen regular arcanine… Didn’t someone say only Alola forms would be in Alola and other forms needed to be transferred/ traded?
Yeah, that is odd.
That is true! :O
Maybe we were facing a Trainer’s mon? Sure, there was no person behind it, but maybe they took this out to make it easier for the trailers.
Notice how all of these Pokemon are from Kanto. They can all be transferred from R/B/Y! It’s easier to get normal Kanto Pokemon than we probably think.
But that would mean locking Alola forms behind a paywall.
No no, that would mean locking normal forms behind a paywall. But they can also be transferred from any other Pokemon game ever.
Oh. I misunderstood. I’d be fine with that.
“Only” an $5 Bank subscription and a copy of XYORAS or VC-RBY… heh heh heh.
I wonder if there’ll be Alolan Exeggcute which are 6 coconuts
It’s just the same sad pile of eggs we know and (don’t) love. See the Japanese trailer.
;~; Aww man…. I really wanted 6 Grass/Water Coconuts
naw its already confirmed that its the same
I hope the Alola forms aren’t exclusively for gen 1 Pokemon, that would be weird. Why would only gen 1 Pokemon be able to adapt?
yeah this is something I’m kinda worried about myself.
a lot of Megas were gen 1 too… It’s because for some reason it’s the most popular gen
If gen 1 ‘moms are the only ones with new forms It’s probably just because S/M is the 20th anniversary game.
sad because genwunners will probably still hate them (as they do with all change and new things because they are not really fans, just nostalgia blind)
Celebrate 20 whole years, not just one year!
this is very overwhelming, but also pretty awesome. I like the alolan forms, it only makes sense that pokemon would adapt to their habitats. also Gumshoos…. when I look at it, it makes me think of a detective in a trench coat, (stakeout, something detectives do) and also detective gumshoe from ace attourney lol
I hope the next time Looker appears he has a Gumshoos It’d fit him a lot more than Croagunk.
Well rumor has it that he will be in this game so…..
Well RIP Croagunk… but he really needs a new partner and Gumshoos seems to be the one for the job.
Metamorphis = called evolution
Real evolution = called “form”
Pokemon logic
That’s what I was thinking.
question: if the leak is true, will Cynthia be wearing the blue top as seen in the Black and White anime, considering that it’s going to be tropical? Or her usual black glory.
Where’s the leak that says Cynthia will be back?
further down below of the other comments here.
https://m.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4tokxf/rumor_more_on_that_chinese_rumor_from_some_time/
who’s AZ
You know, the tall guy from Pokemon X & Y?
She’ll be naked this time.
so will blue.
L-lewd
lol!
or bikini.
http://shironakarius.deviantart.com/art/Last-Summer-Night-s-Dream-564380481
Close enough for me!
I LOVE THE NEWS!!!! i am honestly still processing all this information but it’s a good day to love pokemon 🙂 😀
I’m with you. I am loving all this!!!!! XD
I. Want. A. Fire/Flying. Pegasus Rapidash. NOW.
If only Gen 1 Pokemon can have Alola forms, I’m going to start getting ticked off with all the gen 1 favoritism. I know it’s the 20th anniversary and all, but still. Let’s celebrate 20 years of Pokemon, and not celebrate just one game.
yeah that’s true :/
This whole year has been gen 1 homage after homage, it’s getting tiring. Gen 1 isn’t the only game, we are supposed to be celebrating all 20 years!
yeah, my TCG collection would have loved a “Fire starter collection” (water/grass) with all the starters as alternate art EX pokemon, but nooooooooo, gotta shove more gen 1 down my throat.
Gen 1 is also far from the best game, but now we are getting into controversial territory, so I’ll cut myself off.
Well not to me its not!
Holly shit people, get of you complaining box, and look at all the awesome stuff they just reviled. Like really, instead of complaining and ruining everyone else happy hours, (non alcoholic) talk about the stuff that you DO like.
I’m sorry if I offended you, I’m just making a fair point. Gen 1 isn’t what we should be celebrating here, it should be Pokemon as a whole.
well that’s also true i guess they can add regional forms in future gens now it’s a thing 🙂
finally someone says it. this is what ticks me off the most about pokemon GO.
To be fair, it was a smart decision, as it (unfortunately) brought in old fans.
which really bugs me. they aren’t even hiding the fact that it is an obvious cash grab.
Plus my experience with Genwunners is that they are mean (no offense if anyone here is a genwunner, but I doubt you are because we are taking about gen 7).
*I don’t like the use of the word retarted but i found this funny*
XD
Some people I went to grad school with are genwunners and, yes, they’re mean. They feel superior, at least the ones I’ve encountered. I was like that once, then I played B2. Now I love all generations
Genwunners I’ve passed playing Pokemon GO acted like they knew more than me because “it was their generation”.
I hate when they do that, and tbh, most of them only really care about one pokemon… Charizard, which is why I had/sometimes still have such a hate for Charizard over the years, because its the catalyst for ignorance
Wow. What a great way to explain that. Always liked Bulbasaur (the forgotten one :'( ) more
My favorite Mega!
On GO I chose Charmander because I had a feeling it’s not as abundant where I live. Bulbasaur and Squirtle pip up more often. Charizard is so overrated
i prefer ninetails than charizard
It’s dumb because it’s everyone’s generation. My niece wanted to start playing the originals, but liked the new graphics so I got her Fire Red. Gen 1-ish was her gen too
Ask them which pokemon was designed first and if they don’t say “Rhydon”, punch them for me.
I avoided it precisely because it was a cash grab among many other reasons. Plus the number of people who only play Pokemon GO and won’t attempt to pick up the main series game when it arrives is annoying.
As a side note, Shuffle and Rumble are keeping me content. (As well as IV training).
Seriously. Why is Charizard the one we’re flying on? Other bird Pokemon would look more natural. Gimme Honchkrow.
Most bird Pokemon are really small.
Wished it was Dragonite or anything else
Everyone needs to chill. We literally only got three lines. It’s too soon to make assumptions that will only cause anger.
Yeah I know. :/ But it worries me how the ones mentioned in the leak are all gen 1.
Also the number of fan made gen 1 Kanto pokemon are disproportionate. I’m beginning to believe a lot of people cap out at remembering 151 pokemon.
I agree. Gen 1 wasn’t even good. I seriously hope we get Alola forms for other pokemon and That Other gens are added in GO
They NEVER said that it was JUST for gen 1 Pokemon, why is it that you all assume that just because they showed only gen 1 Pokemon in the commercial, that they aren’t making alternate forms for other Gens as well. Holly crap people.
Calm down. I’m just making a point. The ones in the leaks, which are likely true, are all gen 1 as well.
Actually we’re assuming it because people keep making fan art of gen 1 alola forms and ignoring the other ~570 pokemon available.
What worries me more is the possibility of only getting 60-70 new Pokemon and rest being new forms of gen one Pokemon.
I wonder what this means to the amount of NEW Pokemon we will get.. This might make design easier for GF and all, but I don’t think it looks good for the numbers being higher than XY
alakasam is fighting? I don’t get it someone explain. They’re changing old poke typings?
Have you seen the English trailer that just came out? Watch it first, then you will understand. (See what they did to Vulpix, for example.)
oooh…just saw the trailer. Holy crap.
It’s not permanent, only for the Alola region
These are not permanent. This is why it’s an Alola form. This also happens in nature as Pokemon are based on actual animals.
Guys I have more proof for my idea that the island names are Yellow, Red, Purple and Pink! Not only the tag on the bags for those competing in the island challenge are these colours but so are that new bird dancer Pokemon! Different colours for each island…
Islands will be MeleMele, Poni, Ula Ula, and Akala.
The biodiversity withing pokemon species is Oh Em Gee! I feel like I’m 11 again
Alright let’s get something clear
Alolan Variants seem to be based solely on Environmental Adaptations
So I don’t believe that everything will get abrupt forms
I can believe such a hyper tropic ecosystem would cause such an accelerated growth
I don’t think it was really accelerated, the pokemon probably came over to the region like an extremely long time ago and then adapted slowly over time to their habitat, you know, like real life..
Wow this was a lot of info and plus it confirmed this leak
But I’m still iffy on the trials. Because I want them to be battles..
Is this news real?
Yes