With the latest Pokémon Sun & Moon information, we can now say that the rumors seem to be true. Not only the Poké Riding, but at least with the leaked Starter Evolutions we can clearly see one of the Trial Captains in the art, and the final evolution of Litten is probably holding two of its middle evolutions.
4chan Rumor
For now these are going to be de-confirmed since a number of Pokémon listed appear not to be getting an Alolan form
The anime’s Ash-Greninja will appear in the gameAlolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-typeAlolan Butterfree is Bug/PsychicAlolan Abra, Kadabra & Alakazam are Fighting-typeAlolan Nidoking & Nidoqueen are Poison/Fighting-typeAlolan Growlithe & Arcanine are Water-typeAlolan Doduo & Dodrio are Fighting/Flying-typeThe previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older gamesFurfrou gets new stylesNew cat Pokémon varies in type and appearance based on breedingThere is a new snowman Pokémon line with two stages and it is Ice/GhostNot to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter
Chinese Rumor
- There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
- The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
- The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
- New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
- Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
- Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo
<3 PJ
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I just love Oricorio so much I want to cry ?
Do you think it will evolve?
Nah. I think it’ll be like Chatot.
yeah I’m a huge fan as well. oh btw I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet because I was at work all day, but Lurantis seems to be based on the Orchid mantis. but is surprisingly pure grass for some reason…
THAT’S WHAT THE MANTIS IS CALLED I could’ve sworn I recognized it’s design
yepp I knew it as soon as I saw it, I always have one as a pet in animal crossing lol
Not being a bug-type is odd for it but I’m glad it wasn’t grass/bug
lowkey im happy because we already have a gras/bug mantis with leveanny
Leavanny is partly a mantis but mostly a leaf-insect. Nothing much to do with an orchid mantis 🙂
for me is the head of an ant with the body of a mantis
Check out “leaf insect” on wikipedia if you don’t know what one is, because what you’re saying is basically a pretty close description of one, and is thus pretty redundant. It’s like saying Bewear has the body of a bear and the tail of a raccoon. It’s based on a red panda, that’s why it has those elements. Same goes for leavannny, it’s a leaf insect with a bit of mantis inspiration for the cutty bits, that’s it.
I was discus that before pure grass type is better than grass-bug but it completely look like a bug ……..y they made this ?
I’m sorry I don’t understand what you are trying to ask.
He’s asking why it isn’t a bug type
Maybe they didn’t want to step all over Sewaddle’s gig..?
They can make it bug /fairy.
We just had one Bug/Fairy in Cutiefly.
Grass/Fairy, which is Whimsicott’s territory.
Though there’s enough plain Grass types, I guess.
We may never know what GF is thinking.
It is a play on the orchid mantis.
The orchid mantis pretends to be a flower to lure in prey.
In FAUXmantis and LUREantis’ cases, they are plants that pretend to be bugs…perhaps they do not want to be vegetation for bug types since bugs are super effective against grass-types.
I already explained this three hours ago 😛
In that case, Lurantis is probably the opposite. Instead of a Mantis pretending to be an Orchid, it’s an Orchid pretending to be a Mantis. Scythers beware!
Alohan Vulpix and Ninetales
https://66.media.tumblr.com/cd57e2d5c500f45cd17e1782b9ccce29/tumblr_inline_ob53au3jWL1sdg6f3_500.gif
just realized I got that steel type pangolin ive always wanted lol
Watch out !!! http://pre07.deviantart.net/24a5/th/pre/i/2016/214/f/2/pokemon_sun_and_moon___tree_huggers_by_madcookiefighter-dacdqn2.png
I’m kinda confused on whats going on with bewear, but speaking of bewear, I wonder if exeggutor are wary of them? “Bewear can snap a tree in two with little effort while being affectionate”
It’s wearing a Komala mask
There’s an image posted by Earthen (who else) of Bewear doing its thing on Exeggutor’s trunk… it’s the third comment on best comments. Black comedy at its finest…
LOL The Bewear is trying to make itself look like a Comala. 😀
welp, I’m going online to splat some squids. later junglers, always nice chatting with all of you!
Give Litten some love #STAYWITHWRESTLERCAT
I like Litten. I don’t like its evo (assuming this is canon).
I’m getting all three. They will be nicknamed Robin Hood, Little John, and Maid Marian. 😀
And Litten’s evo is going to be Maid Marian, right? 😀
Heh heh heh, not sure if serious. 😀
Half and half.
Firstly I find it amusing that everyone would automatically assume
the Popplio evo to be Maid Marian and not the wrestling tiger.
Secondly getting beaten by a ten ton wrestling tiger called ‘Maid Marian’ would be pretty humiliating.
It’s both.
I’ve been sick for the past several days (still am) with a head cold, so this is all new to me.
So. Much. HYPE!!!
Awe get better my elegant Milotic
Well I had nonstop “Oooh”s watching the Japanese trailer, then I had more nonstop “Oooh”s when watching the English trailer afterwards.
Hala would’ve been hot if he had been younger. Kukui though ?
Can I get your opinion on the fire trials guy, how’d you find him?
10/10
-3 for looking so youngoos
-2 for being so skinny
-1 for being beardless/no facial hair
So harsh. 🙂
But I guess it’s all down to preference.
Hi DefensiveBastiodon, sorry for being so random but that Kukui profile pic you have! *.*
Is there any way you can send me the higher quality version? It would be very appreciated! 🙂
Sorry. I got it off twitter and it was saved to my phone that I had to warranty out so I don’t have it anymore. :/
It’s okay, Malco just shared the image with me! If you need it again you should actually get it from their post. Thanks for replying though. 🙂
https://archive-media.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1463/98/1463986306350.jpg
THERE IS
Thank you so much Malco! Very appreciated!! ^_^
Hala is mine!
If we’re going to be playing that game, I’m taking Mallow (until something better comes along…)
This might be a bit somber, but I think Sun/Moon will be the the last Pokemon Games on the 3DS. Nintendo is slowly killing the handheld, with the hybrid NX replacing it and the Wii U. The 3DS has a dry 2017 in terms of games with the only titles being a localisation of Yo-Kai Watch 3, Lady Layton and some Level 5 games, and Dragon Quest 11. I think Sun/Moon is ending the 3DS with a bang. I’m predicting an Diamond/Pearl Remake for the system or a port of Sun/Moon with improved graphics and textures. With a potential Tegra X2 processor, just image how good Pokemon games will look. Also, I don’t think that Sun/Moon will be the last games of the series as others have stated. Masuda literally talked about giving director positions to more staff members, how would they do that with no games? I’m sure an NX title is in the works, I cannot wait for 2017-18. Bring on some HD Pokemon!
I think we’ll get another game or set of games for 3DS. Too much potential to waste. Especially on the New 3DS. I suspect we’ll get DPPt remakes first thing on a new system. And Byron will look gorgeous
Maybe. It is the future, but think about it; the 3DS has been here for six years and it got its mid-life upgrade. I think Nintendo will want a game to push NX sales! A new Pokemon game will do it.
I really don’t think there will be a handheld for the NX. I think it will be a separate system that’s compatible with it.
To be fair, my 3DS is getting quite worn, and it’s one of the newer models and I don’t even take it out that much (I don’t even go out that much…).
I think it’s definately time they started working towards the newer system.
If they’d had it ready sooner, they could have moved pokemon S&M straight onto it.
Not somber, just logical.
That is, if the NX is a hybrid or similar to a handheld… If not, I don’t see Pokemon switching to consoles. Ever.
But I agree with you on that this is the last generation of Pokemon games on the 3DS
oh cool lady Layton will be localized afterall. will miss the professor though. he was my bro, a very inspirational character.
It has been confirmed that the NX is a handheld system. Not a hybrid
Pretty sure Reggie said it’s a console so no.
It could still be a sort of hybrid though.
They can’t survive without handhelds. That is what is making them money. They said themselves that it was hard to compete against Mobile Gaming. And almost every single big console has failed of theirs. They aren’t going to ditch it for something that will fail.
No doubt. I’m almost surprised it was on the 3ds in the first place with the NX so close on the horizon.
Alolan Alakazam look like deddy corbuzer (retired magcian and now fitness trainer)
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oh….rowlet IS SO GONNA BE MINE! or shoud i call him……LINK
These leaks are fake or both forms can be found in the wild. It has already been shown that Arcanine can be found with its normal color and art. So either these leaks are fake, or both kinds can be found in the wild.
I forgot that one yes!, Arcanine did already appear in its normal form
The normal Arcanine could have been traded over from past games to throw people off the scent.
Maybe yes, damn u GF. We will have to wait to see I guess
Yet the same exact leak says they must be traded over from older games so you basically just called it fake yourself.
Game freak do have the ability to trade pokemon from old games into the new games for the sake of their trailers. So no, I didn’t call it fake. What I’m saying is if you take the leaks at face value, it can be justfied that they purposely showed people Arcanines traded from old games and avoided using the Alolan Archanines. The leak says the normal forms of the pokemon do not exist in Alola *but* you can get them by trading them over from old games. The pokemon do not transform into Alola form the moment they arrive at the Alola region. They could have put a regular Ninetales next to an Alola Ninetales and it would stilll be legit.
or they could have just made it so they were battling arcanine, they can do that after all. why? to avoid spoilers and keep it a surprise.
They aren’t avoiding spoilers. They never do that. What we see in trailers is what we get.
so we will be stuck with starters that cant evolve? this right here is them avoiding spoilers. they have the ability to make the game display whatever they want for trailers, that’s why they always say “game footage is not final” on the bottom of the screen.
Those Arcanine may not be native to the Alola region.
Two evolutions? Male and female? The Litten final evolution looks pretty masculine and the Poplio evolution looks pretty feminine …
they’d have to tweak the gender ratios if they wanted to do this. which I wouldn’t mind, but I see it as unlikely.
I don’t think they need to. One of them will just have to have an alternate evo path (e.g. trading, stones). Gender (or looks) probably won’t have an impact unless they decided on the Espurr-like gender changes.
I got a ?: Which of the new Pokemon is the Cutest?
bewear.
why is bewear cute?
Mimikyu.
cool 😀
Either Formantis or Bounsweet.
Or maybe Comfey.
The fact they are all part grass is not intentional, grass types are just disproportionately cute.
I’d say Bewear but its headband looks daft and otherwise I think it looks reasonably expressionless and maybe a bit tough.
Mimikyu is depressing because of its lore. I hope its evolution is happier. It would be a nice touch if it evolves at max friendship.
If there’s a fighting type abra line, wouldnt it be cool if there is a psychic type machop line?
And what if up was down and left was right, the sea was up high and the sky down below, and dragonite was fairy and clefairy was a dragon?
Somebody understands this
So we have four captains for four islands, which are Water,Grass,Electric and Fire, they all have a four sided charm where each of them has a side filled with corresponding colour. I believe that’s why there are four trial captains in total, no more. Also the typings match with the colourings of the islands; Green, Blue, Red and Yellow. I’ve heard this colourings from elsewhere, IDK if it’s a rumour or fact. If it’s fact, I think guardian deities may have that typings as well.
Two of the totem Pokemon are Gumshoos and Lurantis.
Grand trial is led by kahuna, which are like Elite four I guess, IDK. One of them is Hala and we don’t really know if he specializes in any type but we see him using Tapu Koko which was Electric and wears yellow coat.
We also have four Oricorio types: Fire,Electric, Ghost, Psychic representing each island.
So, I don’t know what will it lead to. I believe kahunas will not be related to any typing, they will just have some connections with the guardian deities design wise. I guess Oricoro will be representing the cultural/spiritual side of the islands, and give no more connection about guardian deity typings. And same goes for totem pokemon as one of them is Gumshoos.
Also, we may see Vikivolt as totem. Imagine it spawning Charjabug so that the whole concept of Vikivolt using Charjabug as battery comes alive and also the ability.
It should also be noted that Kiawe has Marowak. I wonder if we will see regional form of Marowak.
“Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been passed down in the Alola region.”
It seems to me that maybe Marowak could have fire type Alolan form. What do you think?
Belmad got there 11 minutes earlier. And probably other people before belmad.
“Kahunas are chosen by the Pokémon known as guardian deities, which are also found on each island.”
I guess this is reason why we saw in one of earlier announcements that Hala is using Tapu Koko
I’m surprised by the lack of people talking about this cat that you can cater to your liking. . . I can have a Normal/Ghost type cat just because I want to? I can literally customize a Pokemon, to be what I want it to be. . . That’s a big deal.
As a competitor, I might wanna talk about it more after I know its egg group(s).
After all, you can’t make it a Normal/Ghost (for example) when there are no Ghosts in the Field egg group.
Other people might get more interested in it once they have a visual.
Nobody was really talking about any of the things listed above mostly because those still aren’t confirmed. People were mostly talking about stuff from the video released.
Well, I guess you could say that the evidence that proves that this leak is real, is surprisingly *Mallow*
‘Why bother apologising’
I’m surprised it’s this that makes you all claim confirmation and not the fact that the new trailer pretty much revealed that the whole “no traditional Pokemon League” thing was legit.
Eh, I saw no gyms coming, ever since the map was revealed. And I was mainly referring to the concept-art rather than the Chinese-text leak. It’s not like the pictures came with the leak.
It’s just amazing since the concept art appeared during late June, people laughed at it, but here it is now, back in full circle.
Alolan Alakazam line is Fighting? Yeah I call bullshit on that. Why would their typing change to something that’s completely opposite of their name? Same deal with Alolan Arcanine being Water Type. I DO dig Dodrio being Fighting/Flying now.
I hope more than just Gen 1 Pokemon are getting the Alola treatment. I do wanna see Alola themed Torkoal, Lilligant and Hawlucha.
SANDshrew and SANDslash, don’t appear to be any more related to ground in Alola
That’s why I’m not believing anything anyone says anymore
Those three made sense but you gotta remember exactly what is going on, Environmental Adaptation
Where the powerful erratic ecosystem causes non-native species to physically alter their genetic structure over a course of hundreds or even thousands of years to better suit the environment
And who knows they technically could be genetic mutations
Vulpix and Ninetales’s flame sacs overusing its internal flame to stay alive in the frigid tundra and then finally just permanently freezing over causing its whole body to freeze (a whole period of sickness in the generations and some dying out) until finally the genetic structure changed to accommodate the sickness and make it work for it thus creating a new generation of Vulpix that inched forward with these new traits and soon became the dominant norm for this species
My only wrench in the logic is secondary types I don’t like the idea that Alolan Ninetales is part fairy unless it ate spiritual moonwater from those mountains
And the Steel in Snowshrew unless in a similar explanation but involving fragments of iron ore in the burrows they lived in clung to their skin and just froze over
I just want to know how it evolves.
Probably because the steel armour helps protect against the hail, it’s totally possible the steel came first and the ice type afterwards.
Um… SAND slash?
Literally anything is possible with these alolan pokemon
i bet the island of Alola must have some powerful magic that turn our gen 1 Pokemon into Alolan Pokemon.
Yeah it’s called freaking extreme microclimates
Evolution baby. Like, Darwin evolution. Not Pokemon evolution. After many generations of adapting to the environment, the Pokemon changes.
I wonder if Alolan Formes might affect stats. A fighting type Alakazam would be useless since it’s a special attacker, + there arent a lot special fighting movies either.
They’re probably have the same totals but spread differently. Like sandshrew/slash said it’s slower but has better attack and defence
I actually hope Alakazam is a special attacker still. That way they’ll add more special fighting moves.
Agreed. There are only 3 special fighting moves I think lol not enough.
Im guessing they do this is part of Alolan Sandshrew’s description on the Sun Moon Website: “It excels defensively, but it lacks flexibility and can’t curl its body into a ball like a Ground-type Sandshrew can.”
The thing is, normal sandshrew excels defensively as well, but the website also says this: “Its heavy weight makes the Alolan Sandshrew slower than a normal Sandshrew.”
^Clearly meaning the speed stat is less than normal Sandshrew.
Thanks for the info. I need to go on official Pokemon site more often lol.
So any ideas what the starters and rockruff have in common? It’s not z moves…could it be the 2 final evos?
Alchemical symbols? I guess is as good as yours
I don’t get why Sandshrew and Sandslash are steel types, the ice on its back is hard but it’s not steel. And why is Ninetales a fairy? Why would a fire type suddenly decide to live on a snowy mountain? Why is Exeggutor a dragon?
I can understand it with like elemental types like fire, water and grass, but how would Alakazam become a fighting type? Then it’s not an Alakazam anymore.
I’m sorry for sounding so negative but like I have said before it seems so random to me. Like why couldn’t the Vulpix for example gone to live in a cave near the ocean and become a rock/water type instead? I also said this before but will the same Pokemon get new forms for future regions? Will it be Alola exclusive? I’m sorry I don’t want to come of as stupid or ignorant or something but this is bugging me. I know Pokemon isn’t the the place for logical explanations but I need answers
(Don’t hate me plz)
Dragon typing is likely because dragon fruit is a very popular thing to grow in Hawaii currently, and as for steel, no idea..I thought something about the claws maybe? Turning to steel to better grif and grab on the ice
There’s a palm tree called a Dragon Palm. Although, dragon fruit is delicious lol
The dragon palm makes a lot more sense than mine haha
Since you mentioned the dragon fruit, now I wished the heads where simply that haha
Me too. And also I wish there were Alolan Exeggcute which were either 6 Coconuts if it wasn’t dragon fruit heads or 6 dragon fruit if it was.
Exeggutor is dragon because of the Madagascar Dragon Tree
It’s adaptation/evolution. Vulpix for example living in colder environments became Ice types.
That I understand completely
I think the whole point of the type changes are the adaptation to their environments, at least for the ice typing.
The steel, I can only justify it as being the composition of sand at an atomic level (ie calcium carbonate, etc).
The fairy is rather odd but may be due to the lore of the OG Ninetales – the nine tailed fox.
Your question is why did they do it like this instead of the way I wanted. It’s an illogical question.
They did what they did because they own Pokemon and have the right to do whatever they want. Thats the simplest answer.
No my question is more why they did it in the first place, I don’t have an example of a better way to do what they did
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Its evolution…