RUMOR: Chinese Rumors & Google Takedown of Final Starter Evolutions?

imageA Chinese rumor about Pokémon Sun & Moon has seemingly gained credibility after predicting a Poison/Fire-type Pokémon which was fulfilled with the reveal of Salandit. You can read it below, translated by Cresselia~~ of Smogon Forums.

  • There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
  • The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
  • The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
  • New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
  • Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
  • Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo

In addition, it seems that the majority of the images of the “leaked” starters (seen above) have mysteriously disappeared from Google image search. There is no way of knowing but it is possible official takedown notices have been sent to have them removed from search results. This is a warning: I may soon remove the images myself.

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          • Well that’s your opinion then. I mean they seem to know what they’ve been doing for 20 years now, and a lot of Pokemon in the past have got slack but there was hardly a boycott movement because of an ice cream Pokemon
            If there are 90 Pokemon like the rumour says, I’m sure that you’ll have plenty of Pokemon to choose from and there’ll be somin that you like. If not, don’t buy the game. Simple as. (Not being rude or offensive, but if one person doesnt buy their game, I don’t think it’s the end of the world for them)

          • Like I said, nothing you can do to change it unfortunately. Game’s pretty much made.
            Sometimes a change is good and you might find yourself enjoying it if they steer away from the normal journey of a Pokemon game

          • Are you not reading what I am saying? Sure if it is real that sucks but what the problem is is that we don’t know if it is real or not.

          • Dude, no offense but you’re a big ball of negativity. Whining about this and that doesn’t change a single thing. I don’t like this no league stuff either, but get over it. Game Freak doesn’t usually do shitty work and you’ll probably end up enjoying it anyway.

          • No I won’t end up enjoying it and my main problem is fucking Litten. Stupid bastards fucked it up horribly. But again that isn’t what I am trying to get across here. I want to have it either confirmed officially or denied officially.

          • I also get that. I simply hate Popplio’s rumoured final evo but what can we do? I think that we’ll most likely get the second form of the starters in late August or the beginning of September. After that we can pretty much tell if these leaks are real or fake. Also the league stuff seems unlikely and even if it’s real, I’m pretty sure that you’ll have to defeat certain trainers to make them act as Gym Leaders because why the heck would they obey a 10 year old kid?

          • Even if we get the second evos that doesn’t really do much to confirm anything. The only thing that confirms it is seeing the real final evos.

          • That’s not entirely true. If you look at the second forms you can pretty much tell where they’re heading. You have a point that they won’t confirm these fake but they might foreshadow something entirely different.

          • Second evos don’t mean anything. We have to wait until the games release because I don’t see them showing off the final evos until the games are basically out.

  1. I’m ready for some types other than fire types to get love. Charizard Y with Drought and Primal Groudon pretty much serviced fire and grass types…

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  2. frig! The other starters are growing on me, don’t get me wrong I still like popplio the most, but I don’t think the others are ugly anymore

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  3. Can someone explain PokeStops to me? I’ve passed by tons but I need this “PokeStop module” thingy. Do I have to buy those?

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    • Huh? All you should have to do is get in range of the stop, it should change from a cube to a medallion looking shape. You then click on it to zoom in, spin the medal of the picture, and get items. No module should be required; never even heard of it

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        • Ah, that’s probably it. Yeah, once you spin, you should get 3-5 items. However, there is a Lure Module you can buy, which is like an incense, but causes pokemon to go to your specific stop you’re at. It works for everyone nearby too

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  4. ok I’m gone, theres still a heck of a lot of negativity going around today, and I just aint about that life toodlez for now

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  5. Pokemon GO seems very interesting. I wjll get it in a month if it is still relevant. Also i hope these leaks are fake. And the starter final evos even though they seem to be very real.

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    • is fun tbh. right now everybody is playing it because when you hype a mobile game before release everyone jumps to the bandwagon. i have so many friends rn that never played pokemon that downloaded it. we will see if it actually manage to be a strong mobile game that last 3 months atleast

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  6. I have to say, the more I stare at these final evolution designs, the more I like em
    I can’t wait to find out if these rumours or true or not. Interesting change with the whole gym aspect if it turns out to be correct info

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    • I’m having trouble figuring out the flaws of Popplio 3 and Rowlet 3, although I can understand the hate for Litten 3. I really wanted a quadruped Fire/Poison tiger, but Fire/Poison has already been made a reality!

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      • I think it’s because people weren’t expecting them. As in, Rowlet 3 has a hood, but people think it’d look better without it. Or Popplio 3 is a siren, when people think it should be more clown like. Stuff like that.
        It’s not that the designs are inherently flawed, it’s just not what some people wanted because they expected a certain theme.

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      • I think a lot of hate for Popplio’s is that it’s too feminine (but who cares, its Pokemon!)
        Roulette’s just looks so cool, and I can understand the apprehension with Litten’s – as it’s bipedal and a wrestler of some kind which could mean fighting – but I would’ve gone for part dark

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        • My problem with Popplio is exactly as you say. It’s girly but to an extreme extent. Delphox is feminine too but I had no problems with it. This is too much. The other thing’s also right, I expect this. Popplio just doesn’t seem girly to me. It’s giving off some “little boy” vibes to me at least.

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          • I don’t know either but whining about this doesn’t change a thing. I just like to sound my opinion but please tell me if I’m irritating or something. I don’t want to be a burden to anyone.

      • my problem with popplio3 is that nothing about it reminds me of popplio. with rowlet and litten 3 there are alot of things in the design that reminds me of them but popplio? not even the color scheme is the same one ( is basically white now)

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        • I wouldn’t say that it doesn’t resemble it, rather it’s very different. The basic characteristics are still the same, so the tail or the body structure remains pretty much unchanged. But apart from that it doesn’t match Popplio’s character that much. Sure, Froakie also got rid of its foam when it evolved into Greninja but that change wasn’t this drastical. When looking at Chicorita and Fennekin you just see on their designs that they’re meant to be a little bit more feminine than the other two. But this time it’s different. Popplio doesn’t give out any girly vibes to me at least. But I really don’t know.

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        • So the reverse of what happened to Oshawott (for color scheme)? Started out primarily light blue + white, turned, became dark blue as Samurott

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          • fair enough. atleast oshawott still have the shell thing going on. popplio had the dorky nose but now is smaller and not that cute:(

    • I’m the same except for Popplio’s. Rowlet’s design is simply awesome and Litten grew on me little by little but I just can’t come to like Popplio’s even for a tiny bit. I said it a million times already and I really don’t want to whine about it but it’s just a big no for me… I really loved Popplio from the start but this thing disgusts me for some reason. It’s just too girly. This is a first for me tho. Never disliked a Pokémon before because it’s feminine. The design seems too off for me. I don’t get this girly vibe from Popplio.

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      • Yeah I understand where ya coming from with Popplio’s – I thought the same at first – but then I realised that it’s not that big of a deal, I mean the long hair reminds me of Jason Momoa as Aquaman

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    • Yeah I am feeling the same. Even with Litten’s.
      I still don’t care for Litten’s evo tho, since I wanted something else and I really don’t want it to be Fire/Fighting.
      I’m just gonna hope and give it time

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    • Yeah, was also thinking about this. Making Rockruff a werewolf as they said in the article would make absolutely no sense. According to the wording on the official site, it only has one evolution. If it’s true, evolving from a puppy to a bipedal big wolf thing seems dumb. With a middle stage wolf evo it wouldn’t be so dumb but I just want Rockruff to evolve into a regular old wolf.

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    • Here’s a thought Bipedal Rockruff evo that’s Rock and dark type.. Dark due to it being a werewolf. I’m sure people wouldn’t be very happy with the 4X weakness to fighting hahaha

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  7. Just had a thought about this, don’t know if anyone has said this or not but what if the secret that the starters + Rockruff have if something to do with these humanoid evolutions?
    I mean these three starters evos all show human characteristics and traits (more than a Pokemon should) and if Rockruff becomes a werewolf – which is basically a human wolf, then surely there’s some kind of connection – along with the whole “synergy/bond” aspect that’s been floating around

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  8. Just saw on Serebii that we’re set to get new footage on the 17th from Pokenchi. I imagine that the rest of the world will get a trailer sooner than that. With this being a thing I think I’m far more inclined to believe that 4Chan leaker as they stated that we’d get a trailer on the new mechanic next week. HYPE!!!!

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  9. Rockruff’s description on the Pkmn website states that before it evolves, it starts to howl while the sun goes down. Which actually would make me believe even more that these leaks are legit.

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    • Yeah. I hope its evo isn’t too scary tho. the description also states that it leaves to evolve and then comes back. I can’t imagine the fear of having a werewolf suddenly sneak up on you while you are waiting for a cute and cuddly dog to come back hahaha

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  10. Please! I dont like Poplio, well I dont hete it but He wont be my opcion for my starter but please, dont turn him in that shitty pokemon design ???? it’s too girly, I know twe get a female design pokemon as starter like gen 1 it was Vensaur, gen 2 Meganium, gen 3 Blaziken, gen 4 Empoleom, gen 5 Serperior and gen 6 Dephox but please they look both gender. ??? this one look awful, cool for girls but what about men.

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  11. I’ve just came across another potential leak, this is from May though.

    3 New Pokemon:
    Deuxdrop
    Grass/Water Based on a dewdrop on a leaf, it’s actually two small dewdrops holding a leaf over their heads. I think it’s a middle form, since it doesn’t really look finished. I’m guessing the other forms are a single dewdrop, and then three, kinda like Magneton or Dugtrio. Absolute GARBAGE attack, but decent Special Attack + a lot of speed

    Angleam
    Water/Electric and Lanturn evolution

    Duddigoyle – Rock and pre-evo of Druddigon

    Other details: Trainers show an emotional response when their Pokémon either faints or beats the opponent.

    Items used in gym battles/island trials are tied to the difficulty setting (yes you read that correct)

    At the beginning of the game, your mother will give you a “Sunglasses Case” and tell you that they can “help you see the world differently”. You can’t do anything with it until you reach a changing station in a Pokemon Center (Yes, customization has been brought back).

    While at the changing station, you can access the case, and there will be two pairs of sunglasses you can wear, each corresponding to a difficulty level. Putting on the Rose glasses makes the game easier, while the Sunflower glasses makes it harder (I thought it was cute that the “rose tinted glasses” make things easier). Unfortunately, this does mean that if you play on Easy or Hard, you are forced to wear sunglasses.

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  12. Im back, but only to speculate on these, I hadn’t left the page on my computer and saw this. No spoilers yet hopefully for me. I will actually be sticking around until these are proven false or true in the next coro coro, but I have a friend who is going to check for me to make sure no new ‘mons get spoiled for me.

    Here is why I think they are false:

    As many have stated, a fire/ poison lizard has been thought of before because of fiery salamanders with toxins in their biological make up. It could easily have been speculated by someone.

    Also, like people have said, the werewolf thing could easily be assumed by anyone based on the flavor text.

    These evos don’t make sense seeing how someone said its called Panthster or something, yet the tag on the pictures says Tiger3. Also, why wouldn’t those names just be present along with the images. Or am I talking about two different leaks? This has been one jumbled mess.

    The super move theory has way more credibility since Kukui has been studying moves, but why would it result in a change to aesthetics. Pickachu looked the same in the image on the website, and Ash-Greninja is half a kalos starter, half an anime character who has never appeared before in the games.

    I hope this gets cleared up soon. All of this. What with FB being loaded with the tragedies of our world, and this site being a frenzy, I need it cleared up stat.

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      • No but it says Tiger3 and someone else said the leaked name is Panthster. (which imo is tricky to pronounce). Why not just call it Panthster on the page. And also, people keep freaking out about a bipedal fire starter AGAIN, but maybe its not a lack of trying, its Gamefreak’s intent. Maybe they want the pattern to be bipedal fire starters, prehistoric animals for grass, and amphibious water starters. The zodiac theory for fire was always reaching a little too far.

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          • People kinda thought it was based on one of the first mammals.
            EDIT: There’s also a theory I saw that said the grass starters represent the natural evolution of animals over time. We’ve only now reached mammals and then birds. Probably not though.

          • I dunno, that’s kind of a stretch. The first mammals weren’t really hedgehog like, if I recall.
            Plus Treecko’s a gecko. Sure, there were some prehistoric ones maybe, but it’s based off a modern one.
            I think, like the fire zodiac theory, that one is kind of stretch.
            Not everything has to be a pattern 🙂

          • Exactly, but design wise, there’s clearly a pattern of bipedal fire starters. When all six are bipedal, its not just coincidence. Especially when grass and water have gone back and forth from bi to quad to none (with serperior).

          • True, but that’s something I wouldn’t consider a theme like with the water starters or the supposed fire zodiac theory. It’s just a design preference for how the fire starters should look.

          • I still want quads regardless, patterns can always break 🙂
            Heck, people thought for the longest time that the grass starters were reptilian, but then Chespin and now Rowlet proved them otherwise.

          • I want one too lol. and litten being a big fire tiger would be the perfect start to the six upcoming gens of quad fire starters.

      • I dont even think they are fake because of their appearance. I dont mind them, although I would prefer to not have fire/fighting. Im hoping it will be fire/dark. There’s just some strange red flags in this info.

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        • Ikr im ok with fire/dark and the supposed fire/ground that everyone forgot about but idk this just reminds of x and y and the rumors of team gear and the whole traveling trough time thing it was just off and weird

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  13. Rockruff evolving into a Werewolf is actually quite possible. “Howls when the sun goes down” and becoming “wilder” as it nears evolution are all qualities that Werewolves posses. Also, silver bullets are the only effective weapons against Werewolves and what weakness does Rockruff’s Rock-typing bring? Ding-ding, weakness to Steel-type moves.

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      • The Pokemon website describes Rockruff as a pkmn that evolves when the sun goes down. Basically confirming it will become a werewolf.

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          • I honestly wouldn’t care since it’s still a wolf and I’ll love it.
            I just think it’ll be more wolf than werewolf.

          • Yeah and i mean it is a puppy, the tamed form of a wolf, so a puppy becoming wilder is basically turning into a wolf

          • Exactly.
            I wouldn’t mind either one, but I feel, based on the info we have, it’s going to evolve into a wolf not a werewolf. But that’s how I see it. I can see why it would turn into a werewolf tho, as CoolGlaceon’s post makes sense and I like the idea presented.

          • Yeah i gues i dont mind either aswell but just like you im leaning towards wolf but at this point it could be anything heck maybe even a dingo to go along with komala

    • I’ve never understood the idea of a Pokemon wereworlf. By definition a werewolf is a human being that turns into a wolf. That’s where the “were” comes from. Otherwise it’d have to be a “something else wolf” lol

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        • But again it’d would be a “were” wolf per say as the word “were” in werewolf means man. It’d technically be something entirely different. Unless we get to catch a human being!!!! lol

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      • OMG U HAVE TO SYNERGIZE WITH ROCKRUFF LIKE ASH-GRENINJA TO EVOLVE IT. THIS IS WHY ROCKRUFF HAS SOMETHING “SPECIAL” ABOUT IT. THIS WOULD MAKE ROCKRUFF PART HUMAN ERGO A WEREWOLF. IT MAKES SENSE NOW. I sound like such a conspiracy theorist holy shit

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        • I still don’t see an Ash-Greninja type of thing happened in the games, but I’ll get used to it if it ends up being true.

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          • Same. Especially with customizable trainers. Good luck with modeling 800+ Pokemon times the number of clothing options in SM

          • Which is why I think that, should it be a thing it will be exclusive to the Alola starters.

          • What’s the point then? Introduce a mechanic that only affects three pokemon? Stick to megas, gamefreak, they’re still fresh out of the oven.

          • Could be cool if done right. But looking at Ash-Greninja.. No thanks, Litten’s (potential) final evo is ugly enough

  14. HOLY SHIT
    ME AND MY FRIENDS BEAT RIVAL ROUND 2 IN POKEMON STADIUM 2 WITH RENTALS
    YOU SHOULD’VE SEEN IT

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  15. Just one gym leader, an evo of rockruff, the first evos for the starters, or clarification of the diamond stones could negate these leaks. *fingers crossed*

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    • We have corocoro coming and according to serebii pokenchi will have gameplay on the 17th so im hoping this rumor gets debunked so i can move on with my excited, hyped about sun and moon-self again

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    • Well the leaker that said he was fired from being a translator said that there would be a trailer up next week talking about the new mechanic and wouldn’t you know it Pokenchi has announced that they are gonna show something new off in relation to Sun and Moon. Coincidence? I think not! lol

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      • If im not mistaken, Pokenchii isn’t ever the first source of news for us. Plus, what did we get the last time they promised a big reveal? SQUAT.

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        • True. I never said they’d be the first to show off whatever it is we get next week. I’d imagine we will get something earlier in the week first from the official Pokemon YouTube channel. Maybe whatever it is will also be in CoroCoro lol

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          • Dont they have an exact date they release their monthly copies? Like around the 10th of each month?

          • Official release is the 15th in japan but leak tend to occur from the 10th-14th maybe even as soon as the 8th

          • Seeing as they’re also rushing the anime because of S/M, it wouldn’t surprise me if they also release a huge chunk of info in the next 2/3 months.

          • CoroCoro officially release most months on the 15th. They leak however earlier. The leak is usually when we first hear about the news.

          • Well it prolly won’t happen for another couple of days, but it could technically leak at anytime now yes lol

          • The thing is that i think this leak was a week ago or two so the trailer with the new feature should have been up now. Again im not sure when the leak was posted but i think it was weeks ago and gained credibility with salandit

          • True!!! Im pretty sure this was leaked a while ago and someone just remembered the salandit thing.

          • What? The guy who leaked the trailer time frame posted two days ago. That would still make it next week. Right now we have two different leaks. The Chinese leaks from weeks ago that involve the pics of the starter evos and then another leak from a guy that revealed further “info” which includes him saying that there will be a trailer next week.

          • Oh ok the that can mean two things:
            1. This “leaker” saw the chinese “leak” and used it for credibility, this guy also knew that corocoro comes next week and along that comes a video so he used that to increase his credibility
            2. …nothing i guess that maybe they are real(they likely arent)

          • Hey you could be right. Maybe the Chinese rumors are the only real ones maybe they aren’t. Maybe this other guy is telling the truth maybe he isn’t, but I think at this point the info we DO have is quite interesting. things tend to get more complicated as real leaks start coming. I guess we won’t know for sure until next week. I would like to point out that the interest in the Chinese leaks only re-surged in the past 24 or so hours. So him posting a couple of days ago would put him at leas ta day before anymore of this started becoming a thing. Either way I guess all we can do is wait to see if any of the leaks come true.

          • They are interesting ill give you that, they give us something to talk about while we wait for the games

    • I remember having a leak where only a majority of the information were accurate back in X and Y. I see this being the case for these as well (if they do end up being real). If anything, I want the “no traditional gyms” and Litten’s final evo to not be real cuz those are such disappointments goddamn

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      • I dont understand how someone gets only half the info right. Either you played the game and forgot half and made up half, or you’re really lucky and guessed half correctly. That, or you worked on the game and they’ve since done a major overhaul of the entire game.

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        • True. Hey, maybe they think it would throw GameFreak off? A sprinkle of inaccurate info here and there so that GF won’t notice lol

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          • I guess. Seems like an odd strategy where you run the risk of being proven false by info being released that pertains to your false 50%.

  16. The one thing that is interesting but not all that unusual is because Pokenchi is slow and for children, is that of all the new Pokemon from July, they only showed Tapu Koko. So, they could be showing the remaining Pokemon on the 17th. But that still doesn’t disprove the fired European Employee’s promise of a new video next week. We just have to wait this out I’m afraid.

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    • If these leaks are legit, and they will rapidly spread over the internet in the coming days, I’m expecting GF to upload new footage of them on YT tbh.

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