RUMOR: Chinese Rumors & Google Takedown of Final Starter Evolutions?

imageA Chinese rumor about Pokémon Sun & Moon has seemingly gained credibility after predicting a Poison/Fire-type Pokémon which was fulfilled with the reveal of Salandit. You can read it below, translated by Cresselia~~ of Smogon Forums.

  • There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
  • The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
  • The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
  • New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
  • Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
  • Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo

In addition, it seems that the majority of the images of the “leaked” starters (seen above) have mysteriously disappeared from Google image search. There is no way of knowing but it is possible official takedown notices have been sent to have them removed from search results. This is a warning: I may soon remove the images myself.

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2,275 thoughts on “RUMOR: Chinese Rumors & Google Takedown of Final Starter Evolutions?”

  1. Im so torn. I love rumor season, but there’s always weird stuff that never shows up in the games. Regardless of the outcomes in the past, I don’t like the weird stuff that draws lines in the fandom and makes people want to quit Pokemon. Weirder things have been “leaked” and have no come true. Stay strong, people!

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  2. Hmm if you think about it ppl that work on the translation team shouldnt know anything on when videos are realeased as that is managed by the marketing team and the director and producer of the games are in charge of that i believe

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    • Surely news spreads.

      Someone from the marketing team mentions it at lunch, someone a table over hears and starts discussing it with some people. Other people hear and so on.

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      • I think they would have some kind of secrecy policy in which if they catch you sayng something they will cut your salary or something to avoid tha hehe still it is a possibility

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        • But its not really a leak. Since there’s no info, it’s just a time when something will happen.

          It’s like me discussing with a colleague about going out for drinks and me declining saying I have a video I need to finish as the deadline is (insert date). Everything else can be inferred from that.

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  3. I choose to believe the rumors we have right now. They may not all come true, but I think the sources are legit. I usually keep myself pretty reserved when it comes to stuff like this, but these are quite odd rumors and I think those kinds of rumors tend to lend themselves better than those that are the typical dregs. Either way I think all will become clear in the next week or so. We are in an interesting and fun time here people. Just remember that at the end of the day we should all still be friends! Don’t let differences in opinions push you apart! lol

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  4. So far, only Rowlet and Popplio are the only ones that have shown evidence alluding to potentially being an Archer/Siren with Leafage and Disarming Voice. The moment Litten learns Body Slam, I’d be completely convinced xD

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  5. I’m not going to believe or disbelieve anything just yet, but I will say I wouldn’t be disappointed if these turn out to be true. I think it would be fun to make gyms as long as we can truly pick anyone to be the Leaders and they’re not all pre-planned. And as for the starters, my only problem is that I’d choose Popplio despite rooting for Litten previously. Overall though, I just really want a sea cucumber, so I’m crossing my fingers. :p

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  6. It’s a happy day for me today. My girlfriends son told me he wants to start playing pokemon, so I’m giving him my x version to start with 🙂

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  7. I don’t believe everything from the rumours, because I don’t really know the fill extent of them just yet….not reading through the entire thread.

    But a new formula with no gyms and e4 is something I would welcome. The idea of each island consisting of a ‘leader’ who you have to beat is something I’ve mentioned before…and would be happy to see.

    As for the Pokemon leaks, they are whatever, we only have supposed names and types which I don’t really care much about. Give me abilities, stats, move pools and then we can talk.

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  8. Here’s some more rumours/leaks guys: Litten WON’T become shit it will stay quadrupedal. You will get a dolphin Pokemon. There are only two crystals and they are used for a special move for certain mons the crystal you get is simply based on game. The gyms and E4 etc are still in tact. Mega evolution is gone because it was stupid. Pokemon will follow you. You can ride only a select couple Pokemon still. Your trainer is fully customizable. The artificial island is the E4 island. Battle Royal will not be part of the main story, just a multiplayer mode. Rockruff does become a werewolf and is the only evolution for it. Becomes part Dark type. Litten stays pure Fire. Rowlet stays Grass/Flying. Popplio becomes part Fairy. Magearna is not involved in the story. There are no synchros and Ash-Greninja will not be in the game. There will be more than 100 new mons.

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  9. Oh in that rumour that I totally found that is so legit I forgot to mention a pure Ice wolf mon is coming too it is quadrupedal and has one evolution. Spikes of ice along its back very fierce. Love it.

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  10. I just wish there was some piece of evidence that were tear apart both the Chinese and European leakers. But we have nothing. We have to painfully wait for the European Employee to stay true to his word or not. Hopefully it’s the latter and this is all just a nightmare. As no one in the community can prove or disprove those ****ing Starter Concept sheets. It’s been over a month since those came out of nowhere. The problem is because they came out of nowhere and no one has been able to disprove them real or fake, I’m starting to kinda believe them.

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  11. You know, mega evolution never would’ve been necessary if instead of designing an entire new convoluted yet temporary mechanic, they just gave pokemon stat boosts and actual evolutions…

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    • I’m starting to view Megas more as a story plot – I mean with the whole Delta episode and AZ & the Ultimate Weapon etc
      Maybe when this whole arc plays out, there’ll be a new mechanic of some sort?

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    • Except for the Megas of pokemon already in their 3rd stage. It’s also probably for promotion (Wow, my dearest Gen 1 Charizard just got even more powerful?? Cool!!).
      I’d prefer that those without 2 evolutions would get an evo instead of a Mega, though.

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  12. ”There are many unmarked locations on the map, which are known as ”districts” and contain powerful Pokémon known as Overlords”. These are not the Island Guardians.

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  13. okay guys since the rumors that there’s going to be 90 Pokemon,we need to figure out what be the 90 Pokemon listings be.

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  14. Is anyone else having an issue with the gyms in Pokemon GO? I challenged one earlier, and I could not get the last Pokemon below one HP. It got down to minimum health, and I couldn’t kill it. Just now, my brother had the same issue. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this, and help is appreciated.

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  15. This Siren pokemon thing with beautiful blue hair makes Popplio’s baldness so funny all of a sudden and I have no idea why

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          • Furbait isn’t really anything new though for pokemon. Most pokemon you can google and will find furry stuff with a bit of scrolling down

          • I really am getting tired of you and all of your negativity. Every single thing I see pretty much 95% of the time that comes out of your keyboard is something negative. I do admit I hate these leaks too and want them dead but I want to at least try to be optimistic and adapt to the changes if the leaks are real, which I sadly think is a 60% chance at this time. We’ll just have to learn to live with it. And if you can’t, just stop playing Pokemon. It’s as simple as that. *Prepares for a machine gun to be fired*

          • I think the excitement over the game will die off though if they don’t roll out better ways to battle and level up pokemon. Seems kinda limited right now. Miitomo is basically dead now because they didn’t introduce more social features and minigames and things.

          • I heard supposedly they are going to introduce more features in the future. There was an article on Twitter I saw. I personally don’t care much for the game (but I am glad it is doing well at the moment) and didn’t read it. So I don’t have the link.

          • Like I said before, just stop playing Pokemon if you think that way. You just seem so miserable and I feel like you almost love to get pleasure out of making other people miserable and angry as well. *Prepares for another round of shots*

          • I grew up with the series as well, since I was like 3. I see change as a good thing
            It’s exciting to see new Pokemon, characters, regions and even other potential changes such as this gym rumour because it means more exploring potentially and a better gameplay experience

          • The meat of the game is different for everybody. They’re not gonna throw away 20 years of Pokemon for nothing, so I don’t think you have anything to worry about
            And if they do, so what? That’s life and you can’t have it your way, all the time.

          • The meat of the game is the meat of the game it isn’t different for everybody. Gyms ARE the game along with the story and evil team and E4 and champion. And they could throw everything away because they don’t care. And if they do that means they’ve SERIOUSLY fucked up and will lose AN ASSLOAD of sales. And sure I can’t have it my way all the time but I NEVER have it my way because life sucks asshole.

          • The meat of the game for some people is the “gotta catch em all” aspect. For some, they really enjoy the meta. They’ve been building up a good story for 2 games, so that’s something to look forward to
            They don’t care? If anything, nintendo probably cares about their fans and franchise more than other companies, I mean after all it is considered the family orientated gaming company
            Sales have been strong for Pokemon, this little slip up in Go will be resolved and as they release more Pokemon, it will build up the hype.
            You are being quite negative over something that might not even be true, what’s the point in wasting your time?
            And you keep playing the whole “my life sucks so I’m gonna be an ass to people” card. Well guess what, sadly we all have our life problems. No it’s not gonna make you feel better, but what should is knowing there are people on this site who will happily talk to you about anything and be there for you. Its a Pokejungle family and the more of a dick you are, the less people will care.
            You are in charge of your own life, I was like that where my life sucked too but over time, I realised that I was the main cause of my misery as I wasn’t allowing myself to be open minded and become a lil happier. Whatever you’re going through, just know that better things are ahead of you (even if it’s not Pokemon)

          • That ain’t the meat. That is just post game things to do for people.

            Nintendo doesn’t care actually. They’ve been fucking up hardcore lately.

            People seem to love GO but it will always be a scam.

            It is likely going to be true is the problem.

            I really don’t care how people perceive me. I am how I am. And no there isn’t better things ahead except death which will be salvation for me from this hell.

    • *Shoots machine gun at the leaker* Sorry. I just have absoultely no respect for leakers who want to spoil the entire game. It makes me angry. I remember X and Y and how it was leaked 2 weeks before worldwide release. Masuda-san must of been so upset and disappointed because they wanted the world to experience it for the first time, together, but leakers prevent that. There sadly will always be leakers. But I hope never again on the scale of that severity.

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          • It wouldn’t be Sonic ’06. Sonic Team has sucked ass for years now anyways. And no it wasn’t. First time they showed SM sure.

          • Holy crap, how many times did they mention they are streaming it while still in dev?

            Sonic ’06 was rushed out the door leaving it broken and unpolished. Same story for Sonic Boom. Games are complicated and they need lots of time to be worked out and debugged. They may show is game play and pokemon, but what they aren’t showing is the various bugs, glitches and crashes that they are spending their time working on.

          • You clearly know nothing about game development then.

            Games start out with prototyping to test how the game plays while using very little resources. SuMo most likely skipped this since it is a sequel of a long running series with the same gameplay.

            Then usually a long period of pre-production. Time to figure out things like the world, characters, systems, mechanics, story, stuff like that.

            After that is implementation and asset creation. Actually developing the game. This stuff is the meat of the project.

            Afterwards is polish and debugging. This is crucial to a project and is what separates a good, working game from an unholy broken mess. Lots of time is needed.

            Then PR and legal stuff. There is a process to getting your game out to players. You cant just sell it. You have to go through retailers and the publisher and all of that stuff.

            No step of game development can be rushed. It is all a very important and you cant skip out on any of them

          • No it freaking isn’t. Pokemon isn’t a tiny indie game. There is work to do or they would’ve released it already. They aren’t “keeping the fans waiting”. You can’t keep developers, artists etc. on standby. They are expensive so they have to be doing stuff. And well, they are still doing stuff. Why can’t you accept the fact that you may actually be wrong about something. Wrong about freaking Pokemon no less.

          • We are the people who give them money. They NEED us to run their company. They dont hate us. That is just ridiculous.

            Plus, content is not necessarily the same as development time. Alot goes into a game than just what you see. They have to be pulling some crazy programming magic to get it to run this good on the 3DS. A system that had trouble running Binding of Issac. Lots of work is going into this so we can get the best possible game.

          • StarStorm, just let it go. He’s adamant about his stance. There’s not much you can do, I’ve tried.

          • Of course they hate us. And to be honest we don’t contribute all that much it is the stupid ass investors which is why they make it a point to please their dumb old asses.

          • I like having a planned team, I rarely change up the members and I don’t like going in completely blind to new Pokemon because I might end up liking one of them but have no room for it because I already have a planned team. Makes deciding harder that way

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