Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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Does ayone have a recover sableye i can borrow? I need to re-breed mine to get recover.
OMG i can now make secreat bases again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZjnjn9g0G0
WATCH THIS I LOVE IT
Anyone wanna battle a more offensive team of mine? Not that bulky xD
LISTEN TO THE THEME I JUST POSTED
Sure!
Sure, this time for fun
This is honestly one of THE BEST route themes out there.
LISTEN
LISTEN TO IT
LOVE ITTTTT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9x1KWP9Apc
hehehe
All those remixes nothing compared to this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq37Ijp_5E
I dont ike this.
I Marth this.
I Roy this.
ROY???!?!?!?
DID YOU SAY ROY??????
HOENNNNN
*dies in excitement*
remixs are different than soundfronting 😛
and this guy coincedently sounds like other remixes PROFESSIONAl sountfronters created
WHERES THAT ONE RMEIX YOU POSTED OF THE HOENN BATTLE FRONTEIR BATTLE A FEW WEEKS AGO I LOVED THAT
djja come to the chat so i can cehck with you there
Okay :3
Post the remix Djja’s talking about.
I LOVE ITT!!!!!! <3
I
Hate
Birds
I never liked birds
Did i ever tell you the story of my old Quaker Parrot Budgie?
I hate you too.
Oh yeah
I forgot about you
I remembered you.
Whoops.
As my new school shall say on our mascot
Fear the flcok man fear the flock
I
Love
Swagold
As i get on route 113 i see soot
oh god imagine soot in 3d 0____0
Soot > Snow
you can not collect snow
You can collect soot.
diamond dust>all
Diamond Soot > all
Mt. Stark’s Ash > All
Hoenn soot > All
When the soot brushes of the bushes as you run by….
Omg I love Hoenn
You love Hoenn…
If it isn’t obvious by now…
Hoenn soot > life
I’ve always wanted to live in a cozy shack in either the tropics or the snow for a month see how that was
Heavy what is my avatar on PSS?
Chuck Norris.
OMG HEAVY YOU ARE USING DIANCIE WOW THAT IS A LEGENDARY. THAT IS SOOOO UNFAIR!!!
JK :>
lmao
I LOVE THIS
ORAS PREDICTION MUSIC <333333
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tyeklyOyHY
SCEP I THINK THIS IS THE ONE
WOW its the one i sent to you in the chat XD
was this th done? cause i have a b2/w2 front one too
idk but i love this one XD
BIGGEST HAX OMFG KMS
85% accuracy xD
15% to miss.
Twice in a row.
LOL
-_-
Uh…. I think you faint
bastard
ROOOODD RGPOJVD:GHWIVNLKD
ROTFLMAOOO XD XD XD
Rood man
TCMets?
Yes?
Remember Hoenn’s Soot?
Of course
Wasnt it > life?
Imagine it
in 3dddd
I quit
Dont lose your way.
GG
No. Stahp
How bad was it
He got haxed a lot, but it was gonna be 6-0
Missed every single fing turn.
Use reliable moooves
All had 85+ accuracy
Thats a pretty high chance to miss still
Still that’s a tricky game
I know that feeling soooooooooo much
Aw man that’s gotta sting
My stack would’ve been thoroughly blown if it were me
Hey you guys know the 5 stat Trainers from the Sinnoh?
Each one representing each stat
Which one would you be
Cheryl HP
Riley Attack
Buck Defense
Mira Sp Attack
Marley Speed
Strange we didn’t get a Sp Defense one
Buck? 😮
I dont remember buck.
the Stark Mountain kid with the Claydol
Yay Claydol :3
Doesn’t Claydol also have a pretty decent Special Defense?
Wait
doesnt that mean he’s sp defense?
Key word “Also.”
I think Claydol represent both defenses in that group of NPC.
Oh!
i h8 u
I never noticed that…
wow…
i thought riley was special attack as he had lucario
naw he had attack
ROTLMFAO
That was so brave bird :<
looks like “GG” =)
GG
It is al because of that stupid legendary 😉
Nope. It’s all cause of Skill. My Diancie didn’t take out none of your pokes, and only moon blasted your King Cyclops which you rested off =)
My star winner is cause of my Charizard Y =)
Really I would of chose Aegislash because you out played me many times their
Ah true. I don’t think people expect me to run a special one lol.
I was kidding XD
Lol oh ^_^
cue heavys laugh from soundcloud (or something like that)
LMFAO YESSSS
1 sec TC i noticed i was missing an item on one of them
The trainer battle theme of R/S/E in 3ds soundfont <3333
Alright time to fight offensive with offensive
Hey shiny klefki vs shiny klefki ^_^
oh wait yours is an impostor lol
booboobooboo keys
why did i thunder wave you?
HIT ME ALREADY!
LMAO
i keep selecting foul play and I wont attack
My friend Chris always did that to me
THANK YOU GUT!!!!!!!!
GUUUT CONFIRMED
Because my gut’s always right
Heavy you are forcing me to kill myself you sneaky dog!
ROTLMFAO @ “STRUGGLE” IM CRYING
I hope you enjoyed that >.>
Did he use Swagger, Disable and Foul Play combo?
Okay Ditto is scary. I have to train one.
is ditto a new pikachu?
pikachu is the new ditto
i heard those a new pikachu that looks like a key and a circle!
no that’s just my keys to my beamer. hop in losers we’re getting hoenn remakes
YESSS!!!! HOENENENILkvkgjt,j,
They are very fun
I was sad Smeargle got poisoned because if you baton passed it I would of had a Geomancy Charizard Y but noooo hax helped you more than it helped me
I was going for Geomancy Diancie but then I had to rethink things when I saw Ditto lol. I knew it would copy my stats. I have to figure out the ultimate baton receipient.
I love battling you 😀
We should battle again…
Like now
Lmao no I want to continue trying to hatch this shiny tyrogue =/ after I get it I owe you one 😉
Okay 😀
Wait
U have a Diancie? :O
Yep. every where I go there is always a Diancie following me. I give off this heavy metal fairy aura
LOL
So you legit have an ingame Diancie from cheats or whatever?
Lucky 😀
lol yeah I do. As well as mega latios/latias & AZ’s floette.
:O
U so lucky ._.
Do you have extras? 😀 😀 😀
Nope, and if I did the online server blocks me from trading them until they’re legally released.
Ah, I see. 🙂
and a Rotom that i call “Rotom God Forme” cause it knows Overheat/Blizzard/Thunderbolt/Hydro Pump LOL
LOL XD
Who here remembers guuut????
NO EXELEDUS
I remember LOL
When we were debunking The diancie/hoopa/volcanion mystery XD