Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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Ash’s Team:
Pikachu
Frogadier or Greninja
Talonflame (People think since the Fletchling your rival has has it’s HA, then Ash’s Fletchling has Gale Wings)
Hawlucha
Trevenant or Gogoat
Gabite (Comes back as a Gible and evolves)
Avalugg
Serena’s team.
Fennekin
I hope she will get:Phantump,Goomy,Skiddo,Honedge ;-;
Pikachu
Froakie
Talonflame
Halucha
uhhhhhh Goomy
Bergmite
Serena should’ve Goomy/Bergmite ;-;
Naw Bergmite is a tribute to Snorunt
He would:
1. get pummeled in the League
2. probably end his Trainer profession
3. the fandom would cancel Pokemon
4. I would fucking hate him forever
But we all know Froakie’s too prideful to let Evolution Occur
Why Gible?
Maybe mega, I would hope charizard came back XD
Charizard Getting Too much Screen Time :<
SCEPTILE!
Imagine bergmite being like snorunt in hoenn anime. :
Snorunt > Drek ass bergmite
I agree I love snorunt!! I just think In the anime they will be similar
I personally like glalie more than froslass
I wish it had better stats :/
Same. Sometimes equal stats can help though. Honestly I want it to have a mega
That’d be cool. What even is Glalie though? Is it just a big ball of ice or…? Cause Snorunt is like a little eskimo thingy but then Glalie just seems random to me
I see it as a very Timid Ice Type that lived alone in the Frozen Cave isolated from people
But it follows/saves Ash from a series of Ice Related disasters and takes a Shine to him
Notable Moves
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam
Bite
Take Down
Definitely. I love how it Shivers :3
Snorunt>Ash
But dis is common knowledge
Sad i never got my original Avalugg to work my first time around
Let’s not be so spammy with pics mmkay? It makes the page hefty. Temp bans issued.
ok.
They already been issued? :O
Yeah. I’ve already warned this individual before.
Ignis is an example.
Especially semi-pornographic ones :I
unless they’re good
Just no pornographic pictures at all here. Seriously 😐
Alright it was just a joke
Hoenn and Kalos Anime Similarities:
1. Ash has three travelling companions
2. Ash has a brother and sister travelling companion
3. Ash only caught one starter
4. Ash has no substantial rival
5. Both had sneak previews
6. The female chooses a Fire-type starter
7. The youngest companion is too young to have a Pokemon
8. All Old enough Protagonists have a starter
Morrison was an amazing rival when Ash finnaly met him XD
He was annoying, bland, and was shoved for pathetic reasons.
I severely disagree.
He LEARNED from ash, why does ash have to keep learning from his rivals? Why cant they learn from him?
He and ash were friends and enemies which I found to be extremely interesting
friend/enemies > enemies
I lover how competitive they were with eachother and also, last but not least
HE FACED ELECTABUZZZ OIGHLNERIl
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1. He was shoved because the League would be more interesting if Ash had a real rival
2. Ash didn’t think of Morrison as a real threat, severing any chances of a good rival battle
3. Seems like the friend/rival gag has been recycled too much
4. Tyson was much more competitive and really pushed Ash to his limits
5. Tyson executed every possible trait Morrison has in a much more suitable fashion
6. I just hate Morrison, HATE HIM! I’M SORRY I HAVE SUCH HATRED FOR MORRISON!
He’s…meh. Paul will always be the greatest rival of all time!
Yeah. However, his attitude is more annoying than Morrison’s.
That’s why I love hating Paul. He’s like Loki. A villian you love to hate.
He was just there to showcase Blaziken.
but he only had a beldum? 😮
Hoenn and Kalos Anime Differences
1.Max is a interesting character near Bonnie/Clemont
2.May has more pokemon than Serena
3.May has a rival
4.May is better than Serena
5.Serena has only ONE pokemon
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Not everyone needs a rival
4. Agreed
5. You mean to add, “so far”
Serena can catch nothing?
Watch her catch a Shiny Honedge with Destiny Bond.
I’m surprised they didn’t follow the games and increase the shiny rate in the Kalos Anime lol. Serene & Ash should both have shinies.
Shiny meowsticks
I still can’t believe thats a real Pokemon name lol. Meowstick is horrid =(
ME AND ARCHY WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT@!!!! XD
I can’t wait to come on hereand find out which if you will be upset that a pokemon they like didn’t get a mega. I wonder what “that” pokemon will be for some people XD
Well that isn’t nice
Lol jk. But I hope that a lot of megas are in. ORAS. I want a lot of pokemon toget deserved boosts. And think about it new game means new stat increases like in x and y
LOL!! I’m with you to an extent… I can’t wait to come here and find out Mega Milotic is Water/Dragon… all the Water/Fairy worshippers are going to rage so hard.
Maybe Milotic is the one
Ikr!!! Remember mega charizard before mega charizard x? The rage of no fire dragon and gyarados water dark XD
Anyone think Ash will beat Diantha and win the league? I don’t think he’ll ever really “win” a league and be champion. Orange Islands doesn’t count I guess. Ps: I almost typed Diancie xD Their names are way too similar
Ash has Serena cheering for him more than any other past female companion before. Also, he’s improved a bit. However, this series is the last time I believe he’ll win. After that, then I’m done.
Well that’s good! Did he ever fight Alder? I don’t recall.
Naw. His “rival” did. I put rival in quotes because his rival was just some guy who was constantly forced to battle Ash and was better because Ash was a noob.
What’s the name origin behind Meowstick?
Meow + Mystic
thanks!
Meowstic is a combination of meow and mystic.
thnx!! I was thinking maybe Meow & Celestic but I googled and you’re right ^_^
btw search on bulbapedia for names origin XD
I normally do but I’m too lazy to type it in the address bar lol
Meow and fish sticks
ROTLMMFAO I LAUGHED SO HARD JUST NOW. ALMOST SHARTED.
Meow (cat, origins of design) and Mystic (Psychic typing).
Ash’s Pokemon Speculation:
Greninja, Sceptile equivalent
Hawlucha, Corphish equivalent
Talonflame, Swellow equivalent
Avalugg, Snorunt equivalent
???
???
We’re not getting Greninja
and Avalugg is a stretch
I can see it fighting against Wulfric’s Avalugg in a Rapid Spin Top Battle
Like that show…..what is it? Was it beyblade? Or something else???
Well i can just see i Ash got a Bergmite that its notable move is Rapid Spin and its the last one against Wulfric and his final Pokemon is Avalugg
And Avalugg has a powerful Rapid Spin/Gyro Ball and they slip and slide on the icy battle field
Lol @ultron idk what glalie is either XD
What is everyone’s favorite gym leader theme?
Kalos
Hoenn and Unova
Oh and Orre’s!
Hoenn and the beginning of unova
The beginning or BW2 was awesome
Hmmmm i have to say Kalos
I can’t really recall any others at the moment
Kalos, but if we are counting the BW2 remixes, then EASILY Sinnoh.
b/w 2 ruined steven’s theme And I cant forgive them for that ;~;
Hoenn and Sinnoh!
Hoenn was an absolute masterpiece. The excitement of the beginning, the secondary tune in the main melody, how after it gets tense and serious, omg it’s incredible
I agree
I agree.
My least favorite is Kalos. Awful, just awful D: No distinct melody, just a bunch of bullcrap
And not upbeat
A gym leader music has to be upbeat for me to like it, I have no idea why GF thought it was good idea to have Korrinas theme just for that one battle. It should of been all gym battles. Or at least have that theme for her battles in the Chateau
Omg yes. I prefer Korrina’s, but even still Kalos’ theme was sooooo slow. And the whole thing felt like it was leading up to something, and it just never gets there. It was the worst IMO
I love gym leader themes and i was really looking forward to Viola battle to hear it… I was sooo disappointed
I like Unova’s theme when they’re down to their last Pokemon, closely followed by Hoenn’s.
What if Hoenn’s “Last pokemon theme” Is heroes of Hoenn?
Yes, yes and yes again. I’ve wanted this for the longest time!
I say Unova’s.
Never really paid much attention to the themes
Gold/Silver version of the Kanto Gym Leader theme
Have you guys ever watched Soul Eater Not and No Game No Life? They are very underrated.
My Brother used to watch Soul Eater for a while then went full on Full Metal Alchemist
The Soul Eater anime started to stray from the manga after like episode 33, but Soul Eater Not is before Soul Eater.
I predict that we’ll have a Soul Eater reboot sometime soon.
I hope so!
I watched Soul Eater!
Yes! I haven’t seen this week’s episodes yet so hush!
I’m just starting to watch now !
They’re almost done. Next week is there finales. :'(
IK :'(
No Game No Life looks interesting. Would you say it’s better than Sword Art Online?
*snickers* Anything made recently is better than SAO.
Haha, I guess I’ll give it a try.
I like Log Horizon a tad bit better than SAO because it’s a bit more realistic.
Log Horizon is so boring.
You’re not a fan of evil genius in anime, then? With clever plans and stuff like Code Geass and Death Note?
It’s just so slow. I did like Shiro though. Is that his name?
It is Shiro.
Shiroe to be precise.
I <3 Log Horizon! It is much more realistic, and I enjoy the character developments of OTHER characters. Can't wait for Season 2!
It's funny. My bro is an SAO Fanboy, and I'm a Log Horizon Fanatic. Go figure.
It’s way different they aren’t in a virtual world but a real one that focuses on games and they actually want to stay. Sometimes it’s not PG. 😉
I’ve heard good things too. I’ll watch episode 1 tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Doi5uWwXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzUFUv56Qio
Kalos cannot compare! Sorry.
The only part I like of Kalos’s is the beginning.
The rest isnt intense/ fun it sounds too like… idk
but it doesnt tell a story,
like hoenn music does.
OK. After listening to that, the Kalos one is just noise
It sounds like what would play at a hipster college party -_-
You would know what that sounds like. *runs away*
You guessed it,
I attend hipster party colleges
Host*
At least they’re parties and that you’re having fun with friends.
😛
…hipster college party….
lol XD
I didnt mean you XD
Imagine having Drew cameo in a contest in ORAS. Also, you know that one girl w/ the Metagross from the Deoxys Movie? I read that she’s in a cave in R/S/E, but the American Translation got her name wrong.
I hope they fix it.
OMG REALLYYY???? 😀
I LOVED THAT GIRL
ME TOO!
Ash and Co walk past a contest hall. Ash recalls contests from Hoenn and decided to enter. As they register Drew shows up with a Gourgeist
OMG
OR
A
FLORGES
BECAUSE FLOWERS
DREW IN X/Y ANIME OCNFIRMEDFC
I picked Gourgeist cos he like creepy Pokemon..
.and grass types
And then comes Harley, Solidad, Nando, and Kenny.
Ewww….Kenny
*shivers*
Crappy translation! THIS IS WHY THE WORLD NEEDS ME! NOT JOAN RIVERS!
You’re saying you can translate between Japanese and English?
Yes, easily! (joking).
That’s not the only time movie references got lost in localization. I remember in DPPT there was a double battle with Butler and Diane, with the same pokemon and everything, but they got different names elsewhere after localization.
that is NOT fair butler x diane is life
My wish for OR/AS music:
1. OR/AS has at least 10 amazing themes
2. They release a soundtrack
3. At least one piano-driven ballad, please!
4. Fully orchestrated music… (this may never happen)
5. If you can’t do fully orchestrated music in-game then at least do one for the soundtrack that you WILL release
6. Just.. FULLY ORCHESTRATED MUSIC!
Well in x and y the music is more orchestrated than b/w so thats a great sign! 😀
Yeah. You know how signs from TrollFreak always end up… AMAZING!
Why can’t ORAS be in my hands now?
Also when is SSB4 for 3DS coming out?
October 3rd I think
October (3)rd.
Hoenn confirmed.
October 3rd has 10 characters. October has 7. 10-7=3. Hoenn confirmed.
October is the 10 month and is spelled with 7 letters 10-7=3 :p Hoenn
Ash’s age was never verified by the X and Y anime… IS THIS A SIGN?!
He’s 9 now
NIE! NIE! NIE!
I pretend he’s 14 and call it a day.
Who is all leaving poke jungle in November?
I am
NO
No what??
No one should leave
But I have to
No you don’t! You have to evolve!
I’m leaving forever in November
I’m gonna stop playing pokemon after Z :3
I have to XP
But what if they make Hoenn Re-Remakes? 😮
I will quit school to play it all day :3
What if there are more Hoenn Megas in Z?
I’m leaving forever for 1 day
Not me! I’ll be asking for help! “Umm, how do you beat Tate and Liza?!” or, “Where do you find Milotinite?!” or, “How do you go through Sky Pillar?” and, “How do you get that loopy hair style for the girl? I’ve been in the shop for hours!”
Same with Tate and Liza(they’re evil for me,and dat claydol was evil ;-;
I’m leaving in July for a couple months, and probably for October so I can remain unspoiled from gameplay.
We’re gonna need a new article soon 😮
We’re nearing 10k
Or we can sacrifice someone who comments a lot
*looks at you*
21736 is nothing. Look how many comments Earthen has 😉
Its weird because i don’t see him a lot
Looks like we’re going to have to prepare the ritual again.
I KNEW YOU WERE PART OF THE ILLUMINATI!
What about you *smiles evil*
I hope they make the Volcano actually erupt in ORAS. I dunno how far they’d be willing to go…
It would also be cool if they actually showed some of the cities close to sea start to get flooded when Kyogre is awakened….Water levels start rising and people start panicking
Underwater volcanoes pls 😮
I can’t wait to see the soot in 3d.
Soot > snow any day
And collecting it too <3
And also the way it brushes off the bushes <3
Way to go off topic.
I hope they let us collect enough soot so we can make small glass models of Pokemon
Well you said “Volcano”
and the only volcano is mt chimney
and soot comes from mt chimney.
They should make it a special battle weather type thing.
I wonder if soot will be a minor weather condition.
Maybe The move eruption can cause soot? :O
Oh and maybe soot was the new battle condition they spoke of!!! :O
That’d be great but I don’t know who soot would benefit. It’d be like Defog which was the worst thing ever
Desoot Confirmed!
Pokemon Pompeii confirmed!!!
Maybe we have to stop it from erupting in the post game with Heatran and stuff?
That reminds me what does volcanion do? 😮
Doesn’t he just make Steam and stuff? Maybe he heats up the hot springs idk xD
I think what Volcanion does is to do with Energy and steam
Guys Secret Power is no longer a TM. …so that means….no secret bases
Secret Power Mover Tutor confirmed. ..
It’ll just be like the headbutt guy 😛
Right, it’s no longer a TM because it will become an HM. 😮
Me in Hoenn
Roxanne: simple and easy
Brawly:easy in beginning but dat Makuhita…
Wattson:piece of cake
Flannery: too easy
Norman: What a annoying slaking
Winona: I.HATE.ALTARIA.
Tate & Liza: I hate dat Xatu and Claydol ;-; They’re evil and VERY HARD
Juan:very very easy
Did you choose Mudkip by any chance?
I was just thinking that.
Yes.But Tate and Liza were still hard ;-;
was this Emerald or RS?
because i remember The Twins being cake
Winona was the hard one
Both cause in RS i chose Torchic and in Emerald mudkip
Wattson is impossible.
He is easy if you have mudkip 😉
Ima use Froslass against Norman and he’ll cry!
Shadow Claw Dat Frosslass
Jokes on you. Shadow Claw was introduced in Gen IV. There’s no way he’d use it!
Why not 😀
Shadow Ball Slaking is the way to go
Until the Physical/Special Split Nation Attacked.
Catch Breloom and use it against Norman 😉 BTW Do your gym leaders reactions.
Never played Hoenn, but I’ll try.
Roxane : Tee hee hee.
Brawley: FAIRIES!!!
Watson: Yawn
Flannery: That was easy.
Norman: FROSLASS IN YO FACE!!!!
Winnona: FAIRIES!!! (against Altaria)
Tate & Liza: That was fun.
Juan: FAIRIES!!!! (against Kingdra)
Lol.u will be crying when you will battle them.Believe me
In…joy?
In…sadness. For me Hoenn Gym Leaders are the hardest
Until XY’s Easy Mode Attacked.
If XY’s Easy Mode Attacks u should play the original games 😉
If only it was that easy.
Roxane : Lol
Brawley: Dat Vital Throw
Watson: STOP EXPLODING
Flannery: No Sunny Day for you
Norman: you can do better dad
Winnona: Stupid Altaria and lack of ice moves
Tate & Liza : I hate you
Juan: lol…oh its Kingdra, wait…double team….arrrghh
My turn
Roxanne: Too easy
Brawly: Okay lost to you 5 times no more like that
Wattson: I think my pokemon might paralyzed for life after him (lost 5+ times)
Flannery: WHY IS SHE SO GOOD AND STRONG (Lost 10+ times)
Norman: You weren’t that bad (lost once)
Winona: Flying type SHOULDNT EVEN BE A TYPE (lost 10+ times)
Liza&Tate: I QUIT YOU GUYS ARE EVIL SPAWNS (lost 20+ times)
Juan: Oh… that was easy 0 loses
You chose treecko,right?
Yup
I never had trouble with Wionna only Liza an Tate.
Casey: “Girl, I’ve been do’in my hair for hours and I still haven’t gotten dem rare strawberry cut!”
Aliana: “Don’t worry, once you get them cuts, you will be able to buy dresses!”
Casey: “Urghh! This take too long boo!”
Aliana: “Be patient!”
Casey: “OMG! OMG! OMG!”
Aliana: “You okay, what hap-”
Casey: “I got dem cuts! THEY LOOK FINEEE!!!”
Aliana: “Still haven’t gotten mine!”
Casey: “How’ed you know bout dem though?”
Aliana: “Pokemon walkthrough on Youtube…”
How would you feel if Troll Freak doesn’t give Mauville City an Electromagnetic field to evolve Magneton and Nosepass?
Not too bad. I’ve never used them anyways.
Magnezone is amazing though :3
My old Battle Buddy Nick used Magnezone all the time
Basically
Me
Excadrill
Hippowdon
Garchomp
Nick
Staraptor
Ludicolo
Magnezone
Too bad it doesn’t have Levitate. Although Sturdy is great
Ehh u Air Ballooned that thing
I spamed Equake all the time and did nothing to his team
That’s what I bet the new fence is for!
Its Probably New Mauville where we evolve those two
That would be cool if they made the starters have a 5% chance to get an egg move
Treecko- DragonBreath
Torchic- Reversal
Mudkip- Ice Ball
Nope
Pound Leer
Scratch Growl
Tackle Growl
What do you mean 5%? 😮
I’d like Chespin to get Drain Punch and Stealth Rock as egg moves. Chesnaught is so flexible in its movepool!
I think he means as starters….they start with an egg move. It’s interesting but everyone will just so reset until they get it
Yea