Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

![chesnaught[1]](https://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/chesnaught1.gif)
![delphox[1]](https://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/delphox1.gif)
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Ok, giving away Shiny Bold Natural Cure Roselia 6/31/31/31/31/31. Trivia question to come.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
When this trivia question is?
In the next 15-20 mins. I’ll comment before I ask the question.
k sounds good
I’ll probably participate just for the fun, and if i win i’ll give it to the 2nd place person (i already have a shiny roselia/roserade)
I have one too. I just felt it was a great shiny people would like.
throw the trivia
Here http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/19/fc/06/19fc06a324bc1347df316f9f4b9abc77.jpg
It’s mine
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/74/2b/d3/742bd337fa5b5272bbbff82961d0232b.jpg
@sceptile0998:disqus eghttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/99/18/e0/9918e008b6f5f29d0505039dbbbcb997.jpg Between me and that shiny
My body is ready.
My Sherlock images are ready
The trivia question to @sceptile0998:disqus’s give away :
Why did Heavy pee in the bottle, in the first place?
he was too lazy
He was going to drink it!
I wish Pokémon could have their anime cries in Amie.
Alright, so out of all the starters, I love Chesnaught’s bulk. I love all bulky things. @sceptile0998:disqus trolololol
Question incoming.
troll i was expecting the question right now
Brace yourselves. The question is coming.
Which Pokemon has the lowest BST? (Base stat total) First to answer correctly wins.
Sunkern
Sunkern
Me
@ShinyNoivern:disqus I think I’m getting texts from someone looking for Linda again.
TC was first, and so wins!
qq
YAY! 😀 (Btw, sent my own set right now that I use for 😉 🙂
I’m getting online. I’ll send a request.
I am secretly TC o3o
Thank you 😀
Np. Thanks for Infernape.
Did it happen to be
MY
infernape 😉
That I traded Tc? 😉
Why would you have an Infernape?
In diamond I traded a donphan for a shiny monferno for dex data XD
infernape is my least favorite starter design (tied with emboar and delphox) so i threw dat cake out
That poor poor Donphan…
I’ll check the OT. One min
It’s not mine XD
It took me 3 seconds to remember the pokémon’s name. :'(
I was too late ;A;
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Ima cheer up by watching Nichijou. It’s cute, random, and funny.
Just Looked at the new poll
I figured the results before I clicked on the actual results XD
Me too xD People sure love Hurrn in the Jungle.
Gladly sinnoh is second ^_^
If Unova was tied with Hoenn it would be your favorite region list! 😀
Yep xD
y no one nice 2 Unova ;~;
I love it ;~;
Gee. I wonder which region won?
I know right. It’s such a hard decision.
It didn’t let me click on a region…
It said I completed it but I didn’t.
Djja was the only person who voted for Hoenn 😮
ikr
I Kill Ronald?
😮
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DUCu_9GoTJI/0.jpg
http://gagsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Arnold-You-Make-My-Girlhood-Tremble.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/imgly_production/4140954/large.jpg
*Heavy Breathing*
:OOOOO
I like the pretty lady in your avatar :3
Thank you 🙂 I like the pretty lady in your avatar too 🙂
Djja, was the Infernape Japanese?
Yes XD
And shiny.
Ah, then that’s the one xD
battle?
TC!
Djja!
Hoenn 😀
Treecko 😀
May 😀
MAY 😀
Brendan 😮
Brendan 😮
Liza <3
Liza <3
oddly enough "<3" is the same shape of the badge
Peeko!
peeko :3
Hammer!
BAN!
OR NERF!
June!
SCEPTILE 😀
TREEECKOOOO 😀
How many times a day do you say Hoenn?
Archeops!
http://www.quotesworthrepeating.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Donkey.jpg
TheHipsterLiza!
UD
VE
OP
No. This was going in order by letter. U is after T. D is after C. You have failed the second grade D:
Probably cos the UK education system doesn’t have a ‘second grade’
xD it’s all about Year 2!
I know right…
http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Beware-462.jpg
This is why.
Is that moving
No. Its Honey Boo Boo
I was just thinking that.
Honey Boo Boo 4 SSB4 confirmed !!!
Butterfree! 😀
http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y407/Sukitte/Pokemon%20Related/220px-012Butterfree_zps5a75fc8d.png
VS
SB
PK
THUNDER
LIGHTNING
VERY VERY FRIGHTNING
SHOCK
THEREPY
ELECTRIC
Spam ends here :3
Fine.
VE
We should add Honey Boo Boo in JJ :O
SPONGEBOB!
Spingebill
No. This is PATRICK!!!
Is this the Krusty Krab?
NO THIS IS SPARRRRTA
So I saw a post on ifunny about sceptile being confirmed for smash and I rushed onto the internet and all I found was disappointment.
Sceptile 4 SSB5. Make it happen Sakurai.
or 4 SSB4
Theres still a chance ;~;
Hopefully! I forgot there is possibly one more spot open for a Pokemon, if Jigglypuff or Pokemon Trainer don’t take that spot.
Pokemon Trainer won’t come back
Jigglypuff can be replaced who will complain?
We’re only getting Gijjlyfluff
Mewtwo
Naw we already got Charizard and Greninja and its not smash without Gigglyfluff
ЙВДВЛАЦЛПЦЛВЫЛЫ
Quick tag me in a conversation!
Hello?
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/166/7/1/parental_bonds_by_arkeis_pokemon-d7mi51a.jpg
This is too adorable. (refresh for image)
OMG DAT SCEPTILE AND TREECKO THO <3
Plot twist: all of the megas are dittos.
Plot twist : all of ditto are ditto
I dispise how Ditto can actually transform into Megas.
I like the mega venuesaur the best
I love the SawmpertXMudip
but my head still hurts
10/10 Apricorns
Favorite anime themes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpUJaYImJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMX0ljtq1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edoZy0Qx-LI
No Unbeatable? D:
Thats implied 😉
I agree with all these! 😮 😀 Especially the Ok Victory theme and Heroes of Hoenn.
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/162/6/5/do_you_even_lift_by_joltik92-d7lxhxv.png
I really like Mega Swampert, but I also like Mega Sceptile. How am I suppose to choose? I hope you can get all Hoenn starters’ mega stones in one game.
(refresh for picture)
You can only pick Mega Swampert if you’re tough enough for the salty spatoon 😮
How am I tough?
I played mystery dungeon and only cried 14 times!
grovyl in PMD
also why you should pick mega sceptile.
I was gonna always gonna Pick mega sceptile -_- how coils you question my decision :O
Also it’s apart if the reason why I love the sceptile family
Flip a coin.
Pick mega sceptile if you want rotom wash to die.
Oh and mega sceptile shoots its tail when it attacks + 767 kool points
“Guys, that’s a glitch!”
-DjjaBeforeItWasConfirmedThatItWasSupposedToHappen.
I sincerely thought it was a glitch ._.
mega swampert is the best
Steven and Wallace aren’t the real champion….The true champion is…Honey Boo Boo!!!
Plot Twist: It’s your mom! (Why can’t this ever come true?)
Plot Twist: Honey Boo Boo is your mom :O
O__O
I knew delia was a shady bitch
She wants the Oak.
But if she rides her bike in the house she’s dun.
With Mega Snorlax or Mega Jynx as her main!
With the Mii character, anyone is playable in Smash. Even Honey Boo Boo.
I will go to make a mii Honey Boo Boo.lol. Idk why I love that show…
Swanperts mega stone in the salty spatoon
Sceptile’s is
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/094/8/7/time_gear_by_maldock-d60h0bq.png
No it’s in treeshroud forest or hidden land :3
Perfect, I can get in. I ate a whole bowl of nails. Without any milk.
Anyone kind enough to give me a shiny Oddish?
No.
Ik XD
No.
No.
NO
Hmm I Could but that requires work
Yes… I mean, no.
No
Forever Alone
Why has no one made fan art of Mega Stones for the new Megas revealed?
No..
no 1 got da energy
ain’t nobody got time for dat
But people got time to speculate.
Nobody really cares bout the stones XD except me
I hope sceptiles looks like venuesaurs
I collect them :3
Soo suggestions to get shinies? 😮
Mawile
Dunsparce.