Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

![chesnaught[1]](https://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/chesnaught1.gif)
![delphox[1]](https://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/delphox1.gif)
![greninja[1]](https://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/greninja1.gif)









The Ralts ratio is 75 male 25 female on my game
Its annoying!
and is is girly-ish e3e
Everyone here is now
Modestly crappy, but full of choices and speculation, BOOM Swellow
(and I dunno if this posted before :P)
ORAS directly or indirectly confirmed Megas (So far) :
Sceptile
Blaziken
Swampert
Camerupt
Sharpedo
Metagross
Sableye
Mawile
Latios
Latias
Diancie
Charizard X
so far that’s 12 megas.
That’s yet to include Unannounced Megas or Pokemon that were previously traemarked.
I’m also expecting other Hoenn native Megas to return such as :
Medicham
Aggron
Manectric
Gardevoir
Banette
and Absol
Don’t forget the serebii “leak” mega ludicolo and nuzleaf and another one but I can’t remember who
iirc, they were Sceptile, Swampert, Ludicolo, & Shiftry
Lol I meant shiftry XD also what does iirc mean?
If i recall (or remember) correctly
Ok thank you XD
The ones that said Mega Ludicolo and such were fake.
Out of all my batches so far I have seen 11 boys 4 girls
Doesn’t sound 50-50 to me!
Who wants to have some random battles on Showdown? With me?
I will
Whats your name on showdown?
IgnisSableye I think
I am Huntark and go to lobby
Ok
I seriously think milotic and metagross will get megas.
Every champion so far has had a different mega on their team
Blue: Blastois, Venasuar or Charizard
Lance: Aerodactyl or gyrados
Cynthia: Garchomp
Iris: Aggron
diantha: gardevoir
Now you could say “aggron” for steven, but Iris already has one, and meta gross is more his main.
Steven: Metagross???
Wallace: Milotic???
http://pokemon-global-academy.tumblr.com/post/67607131067/unconfirmed-mega-jynx-mega-kyogre-mega-groudon
The list is outdated. There was no Swampert of Sableye on there.
Fake! I dont see mega torterra! D:<
…
What?
XD
I really want it tho. ;~;
Blue also had Alakazam
Naw son
true.
naw.
He had one in Yellow
YAw.
I will dies if it happens.
I will revive you 😀
Much appreciated!
NOOOOO
RIP Chico. Cause of Death: Milotic overdose.
She died a shapeless woman ;~;
😉
I will cut you……r hair. Those two strands are annoying.
They got more personality than that drek fedora of yours 😉
I think the fsdora is sexy.
This guy knows what’s up. 😉
Your training bra is the only thing thats up 😉
At least I’ve got one, unlike you. You’re so flat, I can ride you like a surfboard. Surfboard.
Gurl lets just point out a different fashion tragedy like we usually do.
Like drek dawn.
Yellow clips in yo hair?
you hiding an italian plumber in there?
Im gonna settle this. Dawn. You both lose. There.
No son.
You like that blue head tragedy?
Get a real color.
Me and chico bear are ALL natural.
She flat chest wise AND booty wise
like
how?
What’s up with that white hat too? Like, you’re not Brendan bbyyyy.
Only brandan wear dat hat right.
And he wears a bandana on it too.
Dawn be lookin like a 5 year old ho with a sock on her head
Who knows what she does with that Piplup.
(she sits on it)
Are you kidding?
splitting your hair like me is so in nowadays 😉
No im not kidding. I look at your hair and im like. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Be careful son.
This hair is a dangerous weapon.
I’ll wrap em both around your neck and you’ll die a beautiful sexy death 😉
Arcues will revive me! 😀
Arceus cant handle my booty.
one look and he’s cryin
At how ugly it isz
flat*
Asses arent ugly.
Only yo personality is 😉
I would say face.
But im pretty sure that mess isn’t even considered a face 😉
I found this while snooping the net. (refresh) Dunno if it’s real or not.
It’s fake.
“The firsts exclusive will arise!” should say “The first exclusives will arise!” but even that sounds weird and the use of “Metallized” is just awkward. Don’t think it’s even a proper adjective q.q
I just realized…
Mega Lati@s has the [capital] delta symbol on it…
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/053/9/2/mega_latios_and_latias_by_icaro382-d77iqd7.png
Awesome!! 😀
But I already pointed this out twice XD
really?
i never noticed 😛
I think it was on one of the Get tV articles
GG 😛
GG 😛
Im unbeatable 😀 (jk sometimes)
xD I almost had you qq I give up D:
So far Kanto and Kalos are the least favorites regions
But Kanto D:
Genwunner ruined Kanto
If it wasn’t for Genwunners Kanto would be above Unova
On my list
And the top two were totally unexpected xD
I didn’t Expect Johto to be in the Top 3
Yeah same.
The poll
Hoenn
Sinnoh
Johto
Unova
Kalos/Kanto
sinnoh
Hoenn. 🙂
what poll?
The Pokejungle Poll
pokemon.com
Lol the one on the website.
Everyone that voted Sinnoh just clicked it by accident since they saw Hoenn and started shaking with excitement.
no
Exactly! 😀
Unova.
Unova was a good region I liked it
Definitely wasn’t bad, and B/W2 made the region even better
I know this might sound bad, but i really do not like the Pokemon Chingling
Baby pokemon aren’t really pointless, but i feel chingling is pretty pointless
Auto correct leave me alone!
Let’s name Pokemon that everyone seems to forget about. xD
Let’s start with Stantler.
Maractus
Next is Heatmor
Qwilfish
😮 Quilfish was one of my favories growing up. xD
Same ._. Now? ._.
Masquerain
Beheeyem
Basculin?
Girafarig.
Mewtwo
Charizard.
Liepard
Chimecho and Binacle xD
I choose to forget binnacle 😀
Same xD
When i first saw it i thought it was pumpkin pie. :O
What’s a Binacle? XD
Binacle?
Oh, that thing.
JK I still hatI
*hate it. The heck, phone?
Burmy line
Namely Mothim
Druddigon
Pikachu
Raichu
Pichu
That thing should get a mega. That’s the dragon starter right? Or, the electric rodent? It should still get a mega. What? It has a regular evo? Raichu you say?
I think you mean denndene for its normel evo
Oh, and Sunkern too. I always forget it exists lol
grumpig
Glalie.
lmfao i always forget about him frosslass>glalie
Fearow
Lumineon
Qwilfish.. oh wait was that a digimon, i’m still confused.
Chicomon
Lol, I loves me some chicomon! :3
If we count Megas, then Mega Charizard Y.
Mega Aobamasnow
Zekromney
Kricketune
Girafarig
Finneon.
Apparently Solrock can eat in Amie
Ur questioning Solrock? How about Honedge?
Banette
They really need to make it easier for you to do the Facial expression thing in amie
I have only done it once I cant do it again
Burning pit of the sun
Pit being burnt by the sun.
I agree. I always look like an idiot in front of people when I do it lol
They must be very confused as to what I’m doing xD
I don’t even know how to start it
the medium smile is stupid
I remember being so close to pleasing Meloetta by doing that, but then the 3DS couldn’t capture my facial expressions in the very end, and then she ended up being disappointed. :'(
Hey guys. Think about this. A LAX spoink.
A lax Spoink is a dead Spoink……….
😉
*shivers*
Yet it can still have the “Likes to run” characteristic.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/268/7/7/pokemon_puns_by_fanscripts-d6nu8z6.png
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8220005888/hD761F2FD/
Pokemon sizes are such bullshit
Lol. I remember that feature in Emerald Pokedex that showed you the size of a Pokemon relative to the trainer. That was fun.
Go Rayquaza,go Groudon! *pokeball pops out ants* (ಠ益ಠ)
Too bad you’ve got no chance there Diance. Milotic, please mega evolve and show this b*tch what’s up. *refresh*
you could say milotic is competitive
Real life Milotic:
http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/04/08/13969652461961_700.jpg
Real life Diancie:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0262/5973/products/Pink_Princess_1024x1024.jpg?v=1377804100
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRVtLqIUAA6-vv.png:large
Simply beautiful
I know! That was my most anticipated town to see in ORAS, and it did not disappoint at all 😀
There’s more links here on PJN than Zelda: 4 Swords.
That jungle in the background looks amazing. ..
Amazing transition! I hope the bridge wobbles just to get the realistic feel.
In the trailer it bounces 😀
That’s good. 😀
The camera angle is just perfection as well!
i hope the bridge falls
“Let the bridge fall, let it crumble, through it all, let the bridge fall.”
I hope Sinnoh freezes over
Unova*
It’s funny because it did.
Take. That. Back.
i hope gamefreak get lazy and decides to give steven mega aggron:)
I’m glad that now they have a ladder climbing animation! 😀
I’m back everybody!
And i had a stroke of anime genius
Welcome back Mr. Earthen! I love receiving those kind of stokes as well. 🙂
If only i could apply anime physics to Battles
cause i thought of a totally awesome way to end Sableye
End it with intense horror in its eyes of presume?
*I not of
Nope, after scorching my other Pokemon i send in the one that can stop it
My Hippowdon
As he enters the field with a power tremor, his ports start spewing out a raging sandstorm that blankets the battlefield in blinding sand
Sableye then tries to take advantage of Hippowdon’s slow speed and sets loose a flurry of wisps but they just fly ingot the storm but nothing happened and then it notices that Hippowdon is nowhere to be seen
I imagined this happening as I read this. Good work. It really should happen!
Now for the next Part
Sableye is now confused and gets struck by sharp clumps of sand, Sableye tries to send out more and more Will-o-wisps in retaliation but something happens, then ground underneath him starts to rumble but due to the sandstorm blinding him and clouding his vision it was too late as HIPPOWDON’S Gaping Maw bursts out of the ground and captures Sableye in his mouth and seals it tight!
And Sableye was never heard from again.
And it gets better
Inside Hippowdon’s Mouth Sableye panics and Hippowdon finally having the tricky shadow pokemon him one place swamps him with Toxic while inside his mouth effectively poisoning him and weakening him
He spits out the Darkness Pokemon and ends it, Sableye poisoned and most likely traumatized sees that Hippowdon disappears back under ground and uses this opening to use recover but the poisoning and sand still take a toll on him then The final moment from underground Rock Tomb stones jut out and trap him and as Hippowdon charges full steam ahead using Iron Head and smashes into Sableye knocking him out and the Sandstorm clears
Sableye easily notices how to get out, it uses will o wisp full power in its mouth, when hippodown opens its mouth in pain, sableye comes out and uses recover to heal Itself so now hippowdon is burnt and sableye is perfect fine, sableye chooses the moment to be right and mega evolves… The glow of mega evolution has got hippowdon stunned, but not for long when the burn takes when takes place.
why does everyone ruin everything for me…
I was just telling my side of the story
U just wanted to rain on my parade
*note to self never join on story time*
Jessie was in the top 4 at the Grand Festival… if it were at the League, she would be rank 2, faring off much better than Ash and Dawn…
I dream that Jessibele will return once again in order to participate in Hoenn (or Kalos if the anime gives it contests) once again!
Or whatever Jessie’s alter ego’s name was.
Jessilina XD
Jessbele was the girl that wants to marry James
I remember now. Thank you.
She’s an amazing coordinator! Remember when she defeated Dawn? 😀
Jessibele VS Dawn again would be perfect!
Jessie’s real name is Jessica.
I can’t believe I didn’t do this when I had the chance, but when Unova freezes over in B2W2, does the map change?
Team Rocket are such great actors, they should quit their profession and become actors and actresses.
Jessie’s most powerful Pokemon have to be Yanmega and Seviper.
James’ most powerful Pokemon are Amoongus and Inkay.