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The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.
UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake
The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.
UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.
UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!
Looking forward to reading your comments!
<3 PJ
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I’m not new here, but I just made an “account”! Yay!!
welcome
welcome to war
Welcome to utter chaos.
We’ve been expecting you. MWAHAHA!
welcome watch out for wild dae
Welcome (im new here too)
*Whispers* Beware of Archeops127 he’s after guys like you
happy birthday ( its got to be one of your birthdays)
How did you know? (not really)
awww you got me excited ( really)
no dude. It isn’t my birthday
i know its ini december
This is crazy, there’s hardly anything to do post game, as if.
everyones talking about the post game im just worried about the posts about the game…
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that we can’t tell what type Greninja is?? That would clear up SO much speculation
Definitely. I want SOME kind of clarification.
This post is just exploding. I think the three screenshots in the overworld of the Pokemon Center and stuff are 100% confirmed. But the rest can easily be real or photoshopped. We may never know till October 12th.
or till i get a tardis
These are my list of moves that I think will get retconned into fairy. Like in Gen 2 when “Bite” went from a Normal to a Dark type attack.
RETCONNED FAIRY MOVES
Lunar Dance
Lovely Kiss
Charm
Attract
Captivate
Wish
Sweet Kiss
Morning Sun
Transform
Heal Bell
Perish Song
Lucky Chant
Minimize
Moonlight
Softboiled
Covet
Healing Wish
Teeter Dance
Metronome
Sing
NEW FAIRY moves
Baby Doll Eyes
Moonblast
Moon Dance
Fairy Wind
Fairy Dust
Draining Kiss
Glow Punch
Child’s Play
Geomancy
The hell is a “Morning Sun”?
Espeon learns it.
what does it do
Heal the pokemon.
it’s a recovery move, easy to forget about because so few people use it and so few Pokemon learn it
This is new information to me.
never heard of it
Maybe if come out of that fifth dimension I’ll tell you
exactly four Pokemon (Espeon, Beautifly, Cherubi, and Cherrim) actually learn it by leveling up, which is why you probably aren’t familiar with it
Ahh I only knew of Volcarona getting it, didn’t know a few others did too.
Lmao!!!!! You don’t know what “Morning Sun” is? And I thought you was ShinyXatu smh…..
Good list of moves!
how does Froakie work
Ben Franklin- Raider( Or theif)- To ninja
froakie didnt choose the thug life the thug life chose him
I need to see what fennekins final evo looks like fast.
The hawk looks legit to me. Maybe I’m a little bias because a Garuda Pokemon would be pretty cool.
I’m not sure about Greninja because it doesn’t take very many design cues from the previous evolutions at all. It loses the bubble scarf, a defining feature that it had as Froakie and Frogadier, and gains a giant tongue… that it uses as a scarf. Creative for sure, but it seems impractical. It also loses the white button spots on its nose. If the final evo was going to lose those in the first place, why did Froakie and Frogadier have them in the first place? It’s more like GF to have them “evolve” into something than erase them.
The other screenshots look legit, though….
I think it’s still a cool design. :C
Well, yeah, in design it’s cool. Maybe when I see official artwork, I’ll like it more (as usual). The pink scarf is a lot less cool than a scarf of bubbles, though.
I’m not really looking at it from a cool standpoint, though. I’m just wondering how Frogadier evolved into this.
People have noted themes change sometimes. Squirtle and Wartortle both have fluffy tails, wartortle getting fluffy ears, and they lose them. Chikorita and Bayleef both have a head leaf, which suddenly loses it to having antenna. Crazy things happen.
True, which is why it could still be legit. I just feel too many defining features of the evolutionary line were left out here.
-bubbles scarf gone
-white nose spots gone
-dark blue coverage completely gone
whos fav pokemon is shaymin… mine is!!!
mine is zoroark he is such a badass
seriously who downvoted me
Stop worrying about it. It’s not a big deal.
i know but i have a really low self esteem problem i got bullied cause of pokemon you know
It’s still something not to worry about. How does low self esteem have to do with trolling dislikes?
i am very sensitive you
This lesson applies to life and the internet. If you’re sensitive and you take everything personally, life will be unkind to you. Trust me, I’m more than twice your age. You NEED to learn to not let things bother. How you learn is up to you, but not from the internet
That’s what I think and I’m younger than you. Much younger. I learned it the hard way, too.
I’m sorry but it is a simple down vote, you shouldn’t care because everyone has there own opinion, and if they don’t like what you said what are going to do. Not everyone has to like you and your opinions.
The internet is not the place to go for esteem issues.
wat can i do
Bringing the attention makes you get downvoted more
yeah i want him in super smash bros
I don’t know if this is the time or place; sorry about that.
i agree
Off topic much? Lol.
i wonder wat 6th gen pokemon will be in super smash bros wii u
You guys are all missing the biggest reveal out of these rumors… Backpackers confirmed! Finally!!
Jeez, must I always have to keep you guys in check? XD
Ah, who cares. I’m no moderator anyway.
The screenshots of the areas look believable. Yet, I still can’t wrap my head around Greninja, Hawlucha, and that worm-like thing. They just seem off.
yay afarr
Hi. 😉
Pie ;3
Afarr has blessed us with his presence!
Greninja and Hawlucha look okay in my book. That barnacle thing, though, seems a little out-of-place. There are always a few gonkish designs in every generation, though. Maybe I’ll learn to roll with it.
Yea. Greninja design choice is interesting! Same goes to the hawk-like thing. That barnacle-thing is just plain old weird.
And this is my updated list of Pokemon that I think will get retconned into fairy. I’m not saying all of these will come true, its just the ones that I feel have the potential too. I know it seems like a lot of fairies but I think it makes sense as seeing that a lot should exist by now since we are on gen 6. This will cause the online competitive scene to be shaken up quite a lot, and if they introduce atleast 50 Mega’s, and about 10 new fairies in 6th gen online scene would be crazily unpredictable and fun.
Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable | Normal/Fairy
Igglybuff, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff | Normal/Fairy
Happiny, Chansey, Blissey | Normal/Fairy
Audino | Normal/Fairy
Azurill | Normal/Fairy
Marill, Azumarill | Water/Fairy
Togepi | Normal/Fairy
Togetic, Togekiss | Flying/Fairy
Snubbull, Granbull | Normal/Fairy
Skitty, Delcatty | Normal/Fairy
Mawile | Steel/Fairy
Dunsparce | Normal/Fairy
Plusle & Minun | Electric/Fairy
Castform | Normal/Fairy
Alomomola | Water/Fairy
Glalie | Ice/Fairy
Bellossom | Grass/Fairy
Politoed | Water/Fairy
Pachirisu | Electric/Fairy
Cherubi, Cherrim | Grass/Fairy
Phione, Manaphy | Water/Fairy
Cottonee, Whimsicott | Grass/Fairy
Petilil, Lilligant | Grass/Fairy
Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit | Psychic/Fairy
Misdreavus, Mismagius | Ghost/Fairy
Shuppet, Bannette | Ghost/Fairy
Bonsly, Sudowoodo | Rock/Fairy
Mew | Psychic/Fairy
Mime Jr, Mr. Mime | Psychic/Fairy
Spinda | Normal/Fairy
Buneary, Lopunny | Normal/Fairy
Mincinno, Cincinno | Normal/Fairy
Gardevoir | Psychic/Fairy
Volbeat, Illumise | Bug/Fairy
Munna, Musharna | Psychic/Fairy
Luvdisc | Water/Fairy
Gothita, Gothorita, Gothitelle | Psychic/Fairy
Finneon, Lumineon | Water/Fairy
Milotic | Water/Fairy
Cresselia | Psychic/Fairy
Darkrai | Dark/Fairy
Raichu | Electric/Fairy
Meloetta | Fairy/Psychic, Fairy/Fighting
too many
Darkrai Dark/Fairy? Really?
It’s an evil Fairy
Eh, I guess I could see it. Doesn’t immediately strike me as the “Fairy” type.
I also wanted to put Zoroark as Dark/Fairy cause of its “illusion” but I didn’t know how well that would’ve been perceived, besides its ability zoroark isn’t too fairyish to me like Darkrai is.
I did that based off of its “moon” influences, I can see it learning Moon Blast. And it seems Nymph like to me, with its long ghastly like white thing protruding from its head and big blue sylveon eyes.
I see your point now with the moon/nightmares thing, good thinking! 😀
High possibility! I like your list! 😉 Yet, I doubt Darkai will be part Fairy!
Thank you 🙂
I’m not sure I agree with everything here, but every Pokemon I thought would be retyped as Fairy is included here, so that’s something 😛
sweet 🙂 im gonna use this as my guide to try and discover some retcon’s for myself when i’m playing the games haha
which ones did you predict might i add?
hawlucha backwards is achu lwah ACHU sneeze pokemon comfirmed
Ok, well I think we’ve milked this topic for all its worth. This topic has officially gone to “off-topic” land..I’m peacing out until the next rumor. Later!!
*Sings in corner* “Oh, I really hope that the only 70 Pokemon and barely any aftergame is fake!”
rest assured, it probably is
Masuda has said before that the total Pokedex number is over 750, which means we’ll see at MINIMUM 102 total Pokemon. I’m going to assume about 120 new ones.
lets talk about dunsparce ;p
let’s not
How about no? xD
wynaut mitchell
information is really dunsparce
Why do so many people love Dunsparce? Am I the only who sees it as an unnecessary filler poke?
THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU REALIZE X AND Y WAS HINTED AT IN THIRD GEN YEARS AGO:
ASH TRAVELED WITH MAY AND MAX
ma Y and ma X
THe only difference in there names is x and y
HOLY MILTANK
If anyone deserve to get BanHammered, it’s this guy
sorry
wat is banhammered
ask dae he knows (eerie music)
@daedardus:disqus is the one who truly wields the banhammer
I’ll be honest, I kind of wanted a mod to comment “this” and then immediately use it
thanks a lot
THE All MIGHTY BANHAMMER, SHALL BE BESTOWED ON THIS YOUNG MAN!
i was just making a joke someones cranky
I think the cranky one might be you, because Afarr’s just joking…
oh im sorry afarr didnt know u were joking
You don’t know what the Banhammer is? :O | You shall me Master Dae!
Not really. Development of X & Y started around B/W. The thought was never in 3rd Gen.
yeah according to masuda the team visited france in 2011 so youre right
I feel like B/W were rushed and incomplete cause they were busy gathering ideas and perfecting 6th Gen. 5th Gen was almost like a side project . Is it just me or did 6th gen come fast as hell? I honestly wasn’t expecting 6th gen until 2015
i believe that if xy would not be released this year so rse2 would and xy in 2014. gen 6 sure came fast
It kind of was. Masuda said they worked on 5th Generation on the side! When B/W released, it was around the time of the 3DS. They got a Dev Kit. They had to start working on X & Y! B2/W2 were sideprojects to GameFreak!
you just blew my mind, everything maxes sense to me now!
Not in germany there are these 2 Maike and Max 🙂
While this is untrue, I found this hilarious xD
thanks
ROTLMFAO i don’t think this should get downvoted I loved this post.
thanks
hoENN ConFIrmed
So.. These look real to me.. Some part of me says “NO.” But a bigger part of me says “Ew.” If these are real, I’m not really a fan of the coral things popping out of a meringue pie.. Or whatever that is. ._.
I believe it’s supposed to be a tubeworm? They’re not the most glamorous creatures in real life, but points to GameFreak for creativity, I suppose
Am i the only one who likes Froakies evo and thinks its tongue as a ninja scarf is kinda cool?
yes.
No
Yes. The Froakie evo is hideous in my opinion. I think that it would of matched the Pokebeach rumor better and having bubbles go down it’s neck instead of some stupid tongue thing.
It’s definitely not what I’d have pictured. Not a huge fan, but not 100% against it. But we may not even know if these pictures are authentic until the 12th.
So I’ve been thinking about the Dual typed moves rumor and the move Freeze Dry. Somebody earlier pointed out that Freeze Dry is probably what was meant by dual typed moves. Not a move that has two types, but a move that shouldn’t normally be effective against a certain type, but is (Freeze Dry > Water).
So I thought about the latest CoroCoro where there was a ??? next to the moves for Geomancy and Oblivion Wing. We already know they’re a Fairy type and Dark type attack respectively. Since there were question marks though, many speculated these moves could be dual typed attacks.
Here’s my theory: I think Geomancy and Oblivion Wing will have an effect similar to Freeze Dry, where they’re also SE against another type. I think Oblivion Wing will be SE against Fairy, to give Yveltal some form of advantage over Xerneas. And since I have a strong feeling the “Z” Legendary will be Poison, I think Geomancy will be SE against Poison.
I think that’s how all dual-typed attacks will work; rather than actually having two types, they might just do certain special damage to specific opposing types.
That is one theory that I actually strongly believe. Kind of like how Scald was a Water-type attack that would be learned by Fire-type Pokemon.
That’s one of the coolest things about Emboar!
good theory. do you think moves like Scald, Freeze Shock, or Ice Burn will get this treatment? (And “Flying Press”, if Proven to be true).
Perhaps!
They should have Muddy Watter x4 effective against fire or super effective against poison or something, since it’s “dual-typed” (water/ground).
YES I Forgot about that one!
Earth Power also seemed Ground/Fire to me. I mean you shooting up bolts of lava from the earths core
but then again dual type moves seem to confusing and shouldn’t happen to a lot of moves. cause moves like thunderpunch could easily be electric/fighting
Yes! Earth Power is kind of Ground/Fire. And good thinking, the elemental punches should have a dual effect as well, like being super effective against dark types or something like that…
When I first saw the move in GenIII, I thought it was a dual typed move. Got pretty disappointed when it turned it was just water typed. Would’ve been an awesome move for Swampert
who the froakie is dae
🙂
Ohhhhhhh snap!
Oh. No. You have awakened the master. :O
you will see you will sea
He’s your almighty creator.
so hes arceus
Yes, in a way.
He’s the definition of perfect….
Here’s a proof if you don’t believe:
LMAO