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The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.
UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake
The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.
UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.
UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!
Looking forward to reading your comments!
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Featured Thread: X/Y team From now and then by MacSkiddo














Is the scarf his tongue?
Hmm…why they can’t just take pictures and leak them, how GF will know who doing that?
Well they can track the IP of person who first uploads the images, which can give them information of the country and area the uploader comes from. Not a lot of review copies go out so it wouldn’t take too long to launch a small investigation and find the offending reviewer.
but they can send all images to someone from different country, that person can upload them again
Correct, but even then a thorough investigation into breach of information embargo could lead to the leaker being identified through checking email accounts etc. Not many reviewers would care enough about leaking a Pokemon Starter and risk losing their job just so we can see them 12 days early.
hmmmm…I don’t think, that would be risky, after all there are sd cards, rar passwords, private mails ect. it shouldn’t be that hard to do o_O
These have to be real, too much detail
That is generally reason to think it is fake as well.
I like the names Greninja and Hawlucha (not Hawklucha) but I really don’t like these… Also I did hear that the Exp. Share is back to the Exp. All which is interesting and I like it 🙂 And only 70 new Pokemon? Urghh
this must be bullshit, because it’s like they made it for money, next gen we’ll get 50? it always been 100-150
As others have said though, there are mega evolutions as well so maybe that is why they have cut it down a bit.
it’s still don’t makes any sense xD they should know, that new gen is atractive when it have 100-130 new monsters, than mix of old ones evolutions
They said that the author admitted photoshopping them. Then again, its 4chan.
Also, 70 new Pokemon? Even with Megalutions it lets me down.
I saw that thread but the OP never showed any sort of proof that the images were his
I always imagined a Fighting/Flying type to be a Garuda of sorts.
They’re fake.
Confirmed?
Yes.
Source?
no they weren’t. the same who said they were fake was anonymous
Interested in hearing the source of that.
Where’s your proof? You can’t claim something based on.. because you want to
Starter’s don’t come in Great Balls. In the summary it clearly shows Frogadier was obtained in a great ball. Starters come in Pokeballs.
Or it’s not the first Pokemon in the party. And it’s Pokeball is the one sticking out of the group.
I looked at the summary of the bird, and screamed laughing when I saw the move titled “Flying Press” a fighting type attack. These are horrible fakes if I’ve ever seen one.
Or it can mean Flying Press as in the wrestling move. . .
Cause everything with sky or Flying in their name has to be Flying type.
True. That move just sounds generic and fake to me. But after closer inspection and warming up to it, I actually think the Frogadier evo may be real now. I would hate for that bird to be real, but i’m liking it lol. I feel like a hypocrite. Maybe if it wasn’t such a low quality shot I wouldn’t be so angry lol
I looked at the summary of the bird, and screamed laughing when I saw
the move titled “Sky Uppercut” a fighting type attack. These are
horrible fakes if I’ve ever seen one.
Are you serious? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sky_Uppercut_(move)
As far as I’m concerned Flying Press wouldn’t be that far out.
EDIT: Oh wait, you’re being sarcastic. Ok.
rumors will just be rumors man. we just have to be patient and see it for ourselves in the actual game. there’s only 2 weeks left anyway. and in my country Indonesia we probably won’t get it at the exact date and have to wait for another 2 or 3 days which sucks -__-
They look so fake.
That final evo looks awful. I don’t think that it would be it. . .
I think so too. Like why would the get rid of his main feature? Which in my opinion were the bubbles.
I hope they are fake, the evolution of frogadier looks terrible and has a terrible name. That and the the that there would only be 70 new pokemon would be a terrible disappointment if its real.
WANNA KNOW WHAT I FEAR THE MOST NOW? Gamefreak releasing the other 30~50 pokémon in the “set” as DLC. I swear I will slap Masuda in the face with a table.
or maybe X and Y have pokemon differences? 70in X 70in Y? ;O this makes more sense for trades
Wayyy too many exclusives for that to be possible.
I was just thinking this. Cause one of the codes on the website titled “Gottacatchemall” (how fitting) is called “XY738A” which IMO meants 738 total Pokemon in XY, version A. 89 new Pokemon. We will probably get another batch 60-70 batch of Pokemon in version B of XY sometime next year as DLC as you say. Or in sequel games or Hoenn remakes.
Remember mewtwo’s source file name of “MewtwoX” and people didn’t want to believe it had two forms?
Only 70 new pokemon? Hope this info is fake because that’s really disappointing.
Sorry, it actually might be another person who said that. Authenticity of images is separate from the text rumor.
Again, my apologies.
No it’s not. First was the text, then came the images.
Thanks for the clarifying, I feel better lol.
An article back from June says “Over 70 new Pokemon” lol uh-oh. We’re in trouble!!
http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/52131/over-70-all-new-pokemon-x-and-y-screenshots-plus-new-details/
Yeah I was concerned about that too but after looking some stuff up I’m fairly certain that they are referencing the number of screenshots in the article – “Over 70 all-new Pokemon X and Y screenshots”
And what do you know. There are I think 72 screenshots there. So thankfully I don’t really think there is anything to support there being only 70 new Pokes so far.
its screen shots, DUH that person showed 72 scree shots, these leaks are also fake i guarantee it, all you gullible sheep’s keep falling for this bull shyt every time a Pokemon is released. GOSH!
You’re really hot in that dp. I’d sit on your dick gladly
I hope another person is saying that bullshit because I might boycott XY if that’s the case.
it seems like someone deliberately trying to downplay the games with dissatisfying rumors 😛
thank you for that clarification!
The lowest number of new Pokémon introduced in a new generation was 100 (Generation II). I certainly hope this rumor is false.
this can’t be real, the froakie final evo is missing the puffy white beard thing which has been getting bigger and the flying/fighting type has a camel toe….
Agreed! Also another leaker who claims she works for an Italian game company that is reviewing the game says Froakie’s final evolution is “Frogue”. Plus the Pokébeach leaker that said Inkay, Malamar, Meowstic and Pangoro were real, says it’s Water/Fighting type, covered in the dark blue we see on Frogadiers head, there is none of that dark blue “Greninja”!
Yes but a game reviewer on neogaf said everything but three things the leaker said were false. Yet if I were to guess I would say that these were the three things that were true:
– Reconfirmation that Meowstic has a pre-evolution named Espurr.
– Reconfirmation that Froakie’s final evolution is Water/Fighting. It looks similar to a poison dart frog. The dark blue now takes over its body almost entirely.
– The outfit your character wears at the start is colored to match what you’ve set as your favorite color in your 3DS settings. It can be changed easily though.
Another thing, the leaker of the images took them down and called them fake. However people say this is just a coverup.
Are the review copies the whole game?
Yep! The whole game bro.
Thanks
Lucky b*stards!
As if it’s real because I read that junuchi Masuda that that there are 600+ pokemon and closer to 700 pokemon and I really hopes it’s fake
1. The two pokemon look crap
2 .there should be like the biggest amount of new pokemon because x and y is one of the biggest games of pokemon
Only time will tell
Not necessarily in the past even numbered generation introduced less Pokemon. Generation 2 only brought 100 new Pokemon, and generation 4 brought 107 new Pokemon I think. Generation 6 should introduce around the same amount of Pokemon as Gen 2 and 4.
yes its the biggest because
1. its a 3ds game
2. its a huge 3ds game and
3. maybe because there are almost all pokemon in this game
Thank you for the pics and info.
What’s with the Greninja’s scarf tongue thing?
Please god be fake! Please Arceus be fake! Please if your gonna have new pokemon at least make it 110 please don’t screw-up a thing beginning to be good.
Arceus is and ONLY real!
I think it fake
Final stage of Froakie must have some black color like the second stage
Fake.
41 Pokemon have already been revealed excluding Mega Evolution’s. There’s just no way they can some up a new Gen with 29 more.
YOU SIR, HAVE A VERY GOOD POINT. What if the leaker meant there would be ANOTHER 70 pokémon, giving us around 110~120?
The leaker said Xerneas is 715 in the pokedex, so he meant there are only 70 pokemon, which I believe it’s fake!
715-649= 66 leaving room for 3-4 of those event only Legendaires.
41 + 3 (final evo) + 1 (helioptile evo (i’m sure of it)) + 2 (swirlix/spritzee evo) + 1 (flabebe eva (could be)) + 1 (bunnelby evo) + 2 (clauncher/skrelp evo) + 1 (meowstic pre-evo (if espurr is real)) + 1 (Z legend) + 3 (if there’s a legend trio) that leaves at.. 54. I’m not really sure that there’ll be only 16 new undiscovered/unexpected Pokemon, and seeing that there’re soo many new Pokemon revelations compared to Gen IV announcement (Which are only 15ish pre-release pokemon if I remember) this is big chance gonna be a big roster
plus one more for fletching im sure he will have one more cause of the pokedex picture that came out few months ago
and orotto
Not that I want there to be only 70 new Pokemon, but something to consider is the number of Pokemon from old generations appearing as wild Pokemon in this game. To be honest, considering every Pokemon had to be redone with a new 3d model, GF might have wanted to make use of all that work by making old Pokemon appear more frequently, minimizing the need for making more new ones. It’s definitely not like Unova, in other words.
Except that they already have 3d models for pokemon from gen1-gen5, because of the 3d Pokedex app.
I just have to ask, is it confirmed that GF is using the same models?
See my above comment (in case it doesn’t give you a notification) :3
That really doesn’t answer the question though. Just saying. Did Gamefreak actually confirm they used different models. If so citation. Cause to be honest they used the same variation of models between Pokemon Stadium all the way to Pokedex App adding new ones every Gen
They’re not the same models. It’s a completely different style.
I think they could possibly be the same models with a slightly lower poly count and lower res textures. It’s a waste of money to make 600+ new models when perfectly good ones already exist.
Touche. After a lot of comparing, it looks like the actual models are the same, and the majority or all of the poses are the same, but they’ve been reskinned with some very subtle tweaks. Subtle to the point where the tweaks may actually be just shit happening during the re-skinning process. (For instance, the spot on Bulbasaur’s left leg is in a different place)
Of course, that’s judging just on the released screenshots we have.
Lol why would GF release 30+ new Pokemon if there’s only 70 new Pokemon? And how come instead of clouds Gren has a long tongue? Don’t believe it guys
Friendly tip: NEVER believe a leak unless an official source confirms it or the leaker provides a shot of the overworld
Since we’ve had 40 pokemon revealed and “supposedly there are only 70 does that mean will only have 30 truly new pokemon?
If there’s something I’ve learned is that if the leak is too good it’s fake, if the leak has a bad design then it’s true.. So maybe that’s froakie evolution (actually we cannot even understand its design so maybe it is not bad at all)
A blue frog with a long and pink tongue around its neck? Come on Game Freak, don’t piss me off!
Bro, dont be a genwunner. Lickitung is a ~~thing~~ with a very big tongue and we love him.
Hey, it definitely does not make you a genwunner to not like one new pokemon… You are entitled to not have to love them all. It does look like a tongue around his neck, which is weird, but I think he’s okay myself.
These are fake because why out of nowhere Froakie/Frogadier got rid of the bubble clouds? Radical changes like that don’t happen unless it’s a chrysalis/shell evolution beforehand. Second, the tounge scarf? Was that pulled out of their ass last second or what? Hawlucha it’s physiology doesn’t scream fighter to me, now had Staraptor was being released for gen 6 I could believe it cause he has reach and the appearance to be a fighter. And finally a massive blow to these lies do you notice the status screens where their genders, names and items are listed? They are black while on confirmed demos and screenshots they are brown while the background with the pokeball insignia is a light tan, while these alleged pictures backgrounds are white.
You say this like Samurott didn’t happen.
Somurott held the most important design element though: shells.
I think this is already confirm that this was fake!
really?