I know my loyal readers have all be wondering where the rumors are. Unfortunately I have to wait for them to surface before I can report them… but finally I found some dirt. You should take them exactly as I do; worthless until proven. But we can have fun discussing them and hypothesizing :3 2 rumors below are from two different sources…
Rumor 1: Starter Evolution names. I’ve listed in parentheses how the names could be derived.
- Pokabu -> Hiiton (heat + Ton=Pig) -> Fureiboa (flare boar)
- Mijumaru -> Rakonosuke(Sea otter+boy’s name) -> Umiemon (Sea+Boy’s name)
- Tsutaaja -> Hanaaja (flower snake) -> Moriija (forest snake)
Rumor 2: Possible new pokemon that they saw
- Konotateha – Camouflage Pokemon – Bug/Flying > Poster said its wings look like dead leaves and also speculated it could be the final stage of Kurumiru. [I’d be devastated if it loses its part grass typing ;_;]
- Jogatto – Trick Pokemon – Steel > Poster said it looks like a box that Giaru/Gear comes out of, looks kind of antique-ish
That’s all for now!
<3 pokejungle
ps- Glad that some rumors popped up?
I am glad there were finally rumors but those dont sound too believable I personally think theyre made up
Hmmm the second set seem a bit more belivable than the first. I can see gear not evolving but being part of a gimick connected to another pokemon.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Sabonea posting these rumors again.
I don’t see anything that proves these wrong, but there’s not really anything that proves them right either.
I’d be more worried about Korobooshi Kojiro. Sabonea Masukippa dosen’t strike me as the type to troll made-up rumors.
Sabonea already DID post fake rumors on 2ch. I was not pleased at all 😐 I dunno how Serebii felt about his own translator spreading false information…
he did?! O.o
which ones were those?
http://pokejungle.net/2010/08/05/more-rumors/
http://pokejungle.net/2010/07/09/2ch-rumors/
They were me. 🙂
But Sabonea’s been so reliable! GASP
I’m quite sure he was fairly amused. But since I wasn’t in contact with him at the time it’s really a moot point.
I’ve only done it twice. 🙂
I’ll admit it’s not the best thing to do, but the reactions are more fun than reading what usually goes on on 2chan, tbh.
It’s not me.
I’d have thought of better names. 😉
I thought that Tsutarja already had an evo name: Tsutakeeku. Mijumaru’s is the same, though. Not sure bout the second rumor.
That’s what I thought too
According to a post made by Sabonea at serebiiforums, Mijumaru does evolve into Rakonosuke, but Tsutaaja evolves into Tsutakeeku (apparently from the beta artwork for best wishes)
And I think the final stages will be water/fighting, Fire/poison and either Grass/electric, grass/flying or grass/dragon
That’s true, but in that image Tsutarja is called Ivy and Mijumaru is called Rakko-something, so they might not be final names for the evos either, although all the other new guys have since turned out to have the same name. So it’s like 50-50
Hmm… Wasn’t Rakonosuke the name of Mijumaru’s evolution in the anime pictures with Kibago and Koromori? I swear I’ve heard that name before.
yeah, but that doesnt say anything. it doesnt prove its true, i mean:
rakonosuke at level 17, then Mizuagudosan at level 34.
FAKE
How does 17->34 prove it fake?
i made up the whole thing, and i use the name you saw months ago. see now?
Rakonosuke dosen’t prove it either false of true. It could go either way.
Interesting to say the least and yes i would be upset if Kurumiru lost its grass typing id accept a loss of ability over typing, besides we have enough Bug/Flying types roaming around, i want Kurumiru to be Grass/Bug with the levitate ability for its final form with big leaf wings =], as for the names of the starters im a lil sketchy I mean Hiiton sounds like a move from Naruto lol As for Hanajaa i refuse to see Tsutajaa with flowers >:0
new rumors: pokabu final evolution type is fire/ground
tsutarja final evolution type is grass/poison
mujumaru final evolutiontypeis water/fight and knows a new attack called hydro punch
whats your source??
my freind in IM is from japan and he told me that there is a magazine that shows these rumors, he ensured me that they r true!
they have a pokemon rumor magazine?? O.o
i want. *_*
“there is a magazine that shows these rumors, he ensured me that they r true!”
That in itself just sounds so messed up.
Even if such a magazine were to exist, are you familiar with the meaning of the word “rumour”? What you’ve basically just said is “It’s a rumour so its true”.
I repeat myself, just sounds messed up.
its not a rumor magazine it just predicts!
and in D/P when every body expected piplup evo to be water/ice or water/flying, they predict it to be water/steel!
does that prove it know?
i’m sorry 3llaw…that made absolutley no sense whatsoever. O.o
CRAP!!!,i do hope the tsutaja final evo rumor is fake,i dont want another grass/poison,i want grass/dragon or grass/flying,but no grass/poison
Im fine with Grass/Poison as long it has good base stats.
i think the infois true cz tsutarja is a snake so…its poison
and i wonder what that hydro punch will be…maybe it is just like fire punch thunder punch and ice punch but water type.
THIS.
*prays for grass dragon*
Nah, I’d actually like to see Grass Poison. Poison types need some love <3
ahahah true,true but grass/poisons been done before…ALOT.
i’d like them to suprise with somehting like a gras/dragon kinda like they did with empoleon.
Nooooo Tsutaja’s evo cant be grass/poison if they do that I will hunt them down, I want grass/flying or grass/dragon but grass/electric is also acceptable 😀
I would not be surprised if any of them, including Tsutarja, didn’t gain a second type (although I think it’s likely Mijumaru will get a Fighting type).
it’s nice to read new rumors ^^, but i don’t want another bug/flying pokemon ¬¬
These names… I think they’re fake. They just seem like Some guy searched in google translate for words and mixed them.
RUMORSS!!!! *takes in*
[s]But you missed this:
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/2010/08/16/rumor-new-character/
Courtesy of pokemonblackandwhite.net[/s] Whether you can strikeout on here or not, just ignore that bit. It turns out that this is fake. Exact same pose as Eusine.
It soothed my cravings for the time being.
I don’t think that website is reliable. Maybe that’s just me :\.
lol I kind of ignore that site… their info is bogus and instead of giving any disclaimer (like I do) they just pass it off as fact. So does PokeStation.
Usually they get rumors from English speakers too. If the Japanese don’t know something about a new game, why would someone outside of Japan know something? 😐
what pokejungle said.
and it just looks like they took reshiram’s features (blue eyes white body) and made it into a humn. ==’
It’s fake they just edited Eusine’s HGSS artwork http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7a/HeartGold_SoulSilver_Eusine.png/297px-HeartGold_SoulSilver_Eusine.png
What PJ and ozy said. Basically, the only Pokemon sites you can trust are Serebii and PokeJungle is gaining a good reputation as a trustworthy source now as well. PokeBeach used to be trustworthy but in the last month or two or three WPM has been awful, tbh, passing off rumours as facts.
So basically, unless it’s on Serebii and confirmed as fact, it’s most likely fake. As is the case here.
serebii also claimed that those exact same rumors were fact. The only negative thing that WPM master did was that thing about the movie, but that doesnt make him any more reliable.
I really don’t see anything wrong with what he did at the movie. I mean, yeah, it’s illegal to record that stuff, but just about every leak we’ve received could be considered illegal.
exactly, i sided with him during the whole thing anyway. im just saying, every rumor/leak that he posted that turned out fake lately, serebii also posted. Hes just as reliable as anyone else
The thing that makes me think WPM is unreliable is that he meshes fact with fiction. The Martijn rumour was terrible. He posted whatever Martijn said like everything was real. And earlier in the year when Pokemon Sunday revealed they would be revealing the star of Phantion Champion Z – A NEW POKEMON – WPM tried to convince everyone that the NEW POKEMON would be a Celebi forme.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve been with Serebii for over 4 years and he has built up that trust over that time. I don’t know.
Here is my suggestion for the Starter’s final evolution types: Tsutarja-Grass/Flying Pokabu-Fire Mijumaru-Water/Fighting.
I really like those ideas. tbh i was wanting pokabu to be fire/ground type but now i think i would rather get a pure fire.
I’m still hoping for fire/poison :3
woaaaaaa……..that would be nicee :DD
butbut…unlikely. ><
Poison types need some love <3
hey guys i have just realized somthin, kibago final evo coul be ononokusso! it looks the same! if u look at kibago head you will see a horn-like thing comin out of it, same thing in ononokusso head!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Sw_PJlkEU&feature=related
watch this vid!!!
That’s been said hundreds of times. While it’s plausible, that video doesn’t confirm it.
At all.
If the last name for Mijumaru sounds weird, consider this: I was reading a couple theories on how Mijumaru will evolve, and a few pointed to being like a samurai… and, it seems, its second evo was wearing something similar to a samurai (its shells are where a samurai’s swords would be) so the “clothing” part of that rumor name might be related to it having “armor” like a samurai. Like its name being sea-clothing like sea-armor.. but I don’t know Japanese, so whether or not the name can mean something like that is unknown to me.
Armor in the sense of “samurai armor” is Yoroi.
As much as I love rumors, these don’t seem to be legit.
Something about it seems so fake and unbelievable.
I’m not so sure about Kurumiru evolving into the CAMOUFLAGE Pokemon. Silk moths, depending on the species, are very strikingly coloured. He’d have to go from a silkworm to a completely different species.
As for him losing Grass type upon evolution; It would be strange for him to lose the one thing differentiating him from the multitudinous horde of bug-types. However, they have done dumb stuff like that before. Since he will 99% be turning into a moth, I suppose it’s possible for him to become Bug/Flying. I for one would rather they made him Grass/Flying on evolution, and made him much, much better than Tropius. 🙂
For the names:
Pokabu line: I think the ‘Ton’ in Hiiton is derived from the same place as ‘Tonkatsu’ which means pork cutlet. XD So the middle one would be Fire Pork. LOL that sounds weird, even for Pokemon. Meh on Fureiboa, I’m hoping it’s fake because it doesn’t roll off the tongue the same way the other Japanese names do.
Mijumaru line: YAY rumormonger did their research. 😛 Rakonosuke is most likely the real name. Umiemon just sounds awkward, though. Since both ‘maru’ and ‘suke’ are very common male name endings in Japan, I’m betting the final one will have one as well. I’m betting on ‘ro’ or even ‘taro.’
Tsutaaja line: PLEASE NO! Flower snake???? That’s the worst combination I’ve ever heard of! If that name is true, I am officially not have a Tsutaaja! (Yes, I know I could just nickname it, but still.) I understand where the names are coming from, but I would have preferred Tsutaaja -> Moriaja -> Tsuchiaja instead.
In short, I’m calling the names fake (Other than Rakonosuke) until someone shoves an official document down my throat proving without a doubt that these names are real.
Nincada was the only Bug/ground type pokemon until Wormadam-SC, and it loses its ground type, so…, i wouldn’t be surprised if kurumiru’s final stage is Bug/non-grass type, but i’d be quite disappointed :S
If it maintains its typing i’d love to see an ability that can reduce/cancel its weaknesses, after all, it is supposed to be the camouflage pkmn <3<3
btw, i'm spanish, so sorry if i made a mistake up there
Surskit was Bug/water and evolved to bug/flying, so its possible, but lame : /
I’d like it to keep it’s Bug/Grass typing. Parasect is a bit lonely as the only fully evolved Bug/Grass Poke out there.
“Ton” is simply a different reading for “Buta”/pig. It is indeed the “Ton” from “Tonakatsu” but unless the “katsu” is on the end does not explicitly mean “pork”.
“~emon” is also a name ending. Are you familiar with Doraemon?
For the record, I’m in the same boat as you. Besides “Rakonosuke” I think these are likely to be fake.
Also I feel less concrete about it than when I first read this post half asleep last night.
Oh, so it’s just an alternate reading. >.< I never got very far in my kanji lessons.
I know -emon is a name ending, but it feels a bit too old fashioned. I suppose if they're going with the samurai bit full tilt it makes sense, but -suke and -maru are still used for names (-maru maybe not as much).
The names don’t seem particularly believe as far as the starters are concerned. I appreciate “Umiemon” though. “-emon”, or specifically, “-zaemon” is probably supposed to be a typical Japanese suffix, sort of like -maru and -nosuke. On Smogon I mentioned a while back, if Mijumaru’s evolution is still Rakonosuke (which is what it was on the anime pre-production sketches way back when), I wouldn’t have been surprised if the final evolution had a suffix like “-zaemon”.
The other names don’t seem that great and thus I don’t think they’re real, besides the fact that they’re just random rumors. I wish these names were crafted as well as that huge debunked rumor a while back, like the one with “Ranranbo” as Pokabu’s final evo. That guy had some amazing names.
Monzaemon and Doraemon are the things that spring to mind for me first haha.
Indeed it does add up.
The Trick Pokemon? Like a Jack in the Box or something?
hopefully, that would be cool
bahaahahahahah xDDDDDDDDDDDD
now i’m imaging the jack in the box mascot head poping out of a box. ><
Sounds more like Pandora’s box, if you ask me.
But Tsuta’s evo has no flower in it and doesn’t look flowery
it could be. it has leafy ridges on its neck that could be really colorful like flowers. all we have is a black and white sketch of it.
edit- around its neck and down its back i mean
I highly doubt the first set’s authenticity. The second one is much more believable…
I predict Tsutaajara will end up as pure Grass, Pokabu will end up Fire/Ground, and Mijumaru will end up Water/Fighting.
If I had my way, though, I’d pick Grass (maybe Grass/Dark), Fire/Flying, and Water/Psychic.
Yeah I predict that Tsutarja will be a Grass/Flying because of Grass Mixer’s animation and Tsutarja’s evolution’s “collar” which makes me think it’ll become wings.
I find grass/poison, fire/steel and water/fighting to be pretty believable typings. When I imagine Pokabu using nitro charge, all I can think of is this http://www.psnnewsletter.com/images/clients/96/pig%20on%20bike.jpg
It’s a pretty good triangle as well seeing as each starter would have their respective advantage and disadvantage over the other.
It’s highly unlikely I’d get what I want, but I hope the starters turn out to be Grass/Poison, pure Fire and Water/Ice.
Poison needs some love, all the Fire starters except Typhlosion have been dual types so it’s Fire’s turn to be a singular type starter. Water/Ice was a popular combo in Gen I, but since then we’ve only had the Ice/Water Spheal line.
Hey Paul,
I just made a few small edits to the above post with some more name derivementness 😀
Peace out!
P.S I really doubt any of the above rumours our true~
The names just don’t have the right ring to them.
i was thiking that to when i read it..it seems different from other pokemon names for some reason. :/
i hope the first rumors arent true it may be a long shot but i want the fire piggy to end up being a fire/poison type
i hope the first rumors arent true it may be a long shot but i want the fire piggy to end up being a fire/poison type and i think it would be pretty cool tsutaaja will be grass/electric. but wotter being water/fighting is fine by me
I would really love for pokabu to be fire poison type and to be honest i had a dream a couple of months ago that tstuuga became grass electric. and i defiantly think mijumaru will become water fighting.
i kinda love how there’s no doubt that mijumaru’s final evo will be water fighting, watch it just be pure water or somethin’. xDD
Pretty much what’s worrying me… I hope I’m not getting my hopes up :/
Water Ice, please Water/Ice!
Well, for Tsuta’s final type, I predict: Grass/Electric (PLEASE ;-;??), Grass/Flying (it would be like charizard, looks like a dragon but it’s flying type) (Not competitive. At all) or Grass/Dragon (unlikely, but after Empoleon, who knows?). For Miju’s: Water/Fighting. I mean, did you look at it’s second evo? It even had a battle skirt! For Poka’s: Fire/- (makes sense. Like Typlo, he doesn’t look like anthing) or Fire/Ground (I mean, it IS a pig).
I’d be more inclined to believe fire/ground if its stats were more tankish. But IIRC the person who played the demo said it had low defense. If it were going in the earth piggy type direction, it would need to be bulky, kinda like Torterra.
my guess is that Pokabu will be low defense up until his final evo, which will be a motorcycle, which would be Fire/Steel.
@Kriffix: I believe Paul had it right. Rakonosuke is correct, since Rakkonosuke would break the 5-character naming limit, and the “Rakonosuke” shortening was used in the anime pre-production sketches. “-emon” is a name suffix like “-nosuke” and “-maru”, meaning, in its original form as a title, a “guard”, apparently. But I don’t think it necessarily carries that meaning anymore, it’s just a name suffix now.
Thanks Enzio,
I wasn’t aware of there being a 5-character limit so I just assumed it was a typo.
It’s interesting how this rumour is choosing name endings for the Mijumaru line. (Clearly playing on the first “Maru” in Mijumaru). It was an interesting route to take.
If it does turn out to be a fighting type, it would make perfect sense to have these names.
It’s fine, I figured you assumed it was a typo, but it was probably actually spelled Rakonosuke because of the character limit and pre-production sketches. I also really like the naming scheme. I think it’s pretty creative, and I’m glad whoever made the names picked up on it– after Rakonosuke on those anime sketches, I had a hunch that was the intention, albeit we don’t know if Rakonosuke is the final name for Mijumaru’s evolution. It’s also why I think it might become part-Fighting, because those suffixes have a real old-timey, samurai-like feel.
I want some good quality pictures :/ but info will do for now