Well, it looks like this is it! After patiently waiting for Japanese comic magazine CoroCoro to leak it is finally here! Peep the images below.
Translations:
- NEW Rockruff’s evolution’s forms are version exclusive
- NEW Day Rugarugan’s signature move is called Accelerock (or Accel Rock) which is a priority move described as “a flashing strike”
- NEW Night Rugarugan’s signature move is Counter which is glamorized with the flavor text “a fierce strikeback”
- NEW It seems these are not simple day/night evolutions but are a reflection of the powers that reside in Alola; Solgaleo in Pokémon Sun (Midday form) and Lunaala in Pokémon Moon (Midnight form)
- Rockruff’s evolution is called Rugarugan (ルガルガン). CoroCoro is very vague on Rugarugan, though it appears that it may change form during day and night, and it is not simply a split evolution.
- Two new Ultra Beasts are revealed, UB02 Beauty (shown in Pokémon Moon) and UB02 Expansion (shown in Pokémon Sun)
- The new anime series is called Pokemon: Sun & Moon and will start in November. Since there is no league in the Alola Region Ash’s goal in this season will be to graduate from school.
- Next month’s issue will reveal the true strength of Type: Null
<3 PJ
I think now its pretty safe to assume that Aether created the Ultra Beasts. UB-02 is literally the Ultra Beast version of Lusamine.
Rockruff’s evo’s look AMAZING
They seem like Day and Night evolutions… so is that really the secret the starters hold too?
Sounds plausible at this point
What is that?
I NEW WAKING UP AT 5:30AM WAS WORTH IT
Rock/Dark Type plz. That 4x weakness to fighting tho
Tyranitar says suck it.
I soooo hope they make a trailer about this really soon
Hmmmm UB-02 Beauty could be related to Lusamine!
Could be? Its like her Ultra Beast genetic twin lol. This is no coincedence no more. Aether are involved in this evil plot.
OoO
DAY AND NIGHT EVOS CONFIRMED BY SEREBII!!!
You guys…..I think I need to sit down….THIS IS THE SECRET OF THE STARTERS TOO!!!
And UB-02?!?! Aether Foundation is TOTALLY in on this….it’s a carbon COPY of Lusamine…..
I can’t….the hype…..it’s too much…..
And lets not forget to mention that the Sun and Moon anime is also announced by Corocoro! Mallow and Lillie both feature on the poster, so they’ll probably be Ash’s traveling companions!
Is it just me, or the animation style looks more simpler
I think that the leaked starter evolutions are the night equivalents, they have a more shady theme to them. Robin Hood, heel wrestler, and a siren.
Urgh I love the designs of Rockruff’s evo, the day looks so simple and elegant while the night one just looks crazy af, now we wait for the typings and I’ll have to decide which one I want on my team!
I did read that the secret that ‘Ruff and the starters shared might not be related, but idk how it was translated
UB – Lusamine and UB – looks like Black Manta combined with a Gladiator, interesting to learn more about these Ultra Beasts
Alternate evolutions for the starters are pretty much guaranteed at this point. Love the evolution for Rockruff! Definitely getting a Rock/Dark vibe from the Night Form.
3 blondies = UBs?
wow. i swear if any of you have played golden sun on ds… remember back to the character Sveta, the werewolf girl and look at her werewolf form. lugalugan night form looks like her
http://goldensunwiki.net/w/images/2/28/PsyBeastformDD.png
golden sun!!!!!!!
look at the comparison!!!!
yeah plus Zoroark too!
GOODBYE SERENA T___________________T
YES! I HATE HER!
Who’s the new companion? Lillie?
Mallow
Mallow and possibly also Lillie because she also features on the poster
Wait both girls this time? I’d like that.
Oh it looks like Ash will immediately receive a Z-Ring once he starts his Alola journey. He is wearing one in the poster
i think UB01 took the form of Lillie and UB02 Beauty took the form of Lusamine
Ok this is what I think about Ultra Beasts now:
Aether Foundation (specially Lusamine) used special technology to discover Pokemon from other dimensions (or check if they also exist in different dimensions) and accidently (or not) opened portals to the wrong one, a dimension inhabited by powerful creatures with bad intentions like UB’s that want to defeat and take all Pokemon to their dimension and experiment with them.
Sounds plausible.
It seems like Lusamine actually is UB-02, or is somehow very closely connected to it. Maybe UBs are like alternate-dimension Pokémon forms of people? It might be a way of allowing us to fight people with our pokémon, but not in a way that would push up the age rating of the games as they’re technically pokémon.
It’s like Legend of Korra Season 2.
UB-02 Expansion looks like he was designed by Dr. Eggman XD
Ash has a Rowlet.
Lillie has a Alolan Vulpix.
Lana has a Popplio.
Mallow has a Bounsweet.
Sophocles has a Togedemaru.
Kukui has a Rockruff.
OMG ASH HAS ROWLET YES!!!!!
Team Rocket gets Beware?
then explain litten then?
How? I’m just telling what I see. Litten isn’t with anyone so I have no idea.
Everyone pretty much called the split evolutions for Rockruff.
The night ones looks evil as fuck though, and it gives me Zoroark vibes.
there’s hope for Litten and maybe another, //even better// Rowlet evo!
lets hope, cuz I’m still annoyed with litten rumor evo
I like Rockruffs day evolution.
And I have no idea what to make of the Ultra Beasts
UB-02 Beauty is the Ultra Beast version of Lusamine
UB-01 was decent though. These two look horrendous.
Also Lusamine has an expansion form when she gets mad.
Dont start that bullshit
What bullshit?
And its a cockroach albino! Ew
tbh rn the only thing to make of ultra beasts is to know someone who makes glass art and get them to make UB01 out of glass (i want this so badly)
Does this mean that what Rockruff had in common with the starters is the day/night split evolutions? ?
After seeing Rockruff’s evolution I need to see the starter’s evolution asap
That Ultra beast is the Ultra Zika Virus!
BUT: so far no Alolan Arbok/Electabuzz/Magmar
We gotta wait until October
this is Octobers coro coro
No it’s not cause Serebii said they will cover Type:Null in October issue of CoroCoro
Each coro coro is the next months its always that way. Next month is novembers. I keep track more
Wtf!!!! UB’s-02……
This is the first disapointment in the sun and moon series.
I dont know how the explain myself but….. i really.. really dont like it.
Rockruff’s evolutions share the same name, but are a different typing depending on whether it evolves during the day. or during the night.
I don’t like Rugarugan’s night form btw, it looks pretty much like Zoroark.
This may sound very very weird but I think I prefer Day Form
I do too, it’s like finally we’re getting a real wolf Pokémon.
The day one looks more natural.
The night one is weird as hell.
Yeah I’m a little disappointed
It’s too gangly and thin
It’d like the tail back and a bit of thickness in the limbs
I really wanted a werewolf Pokémon but the colour scheme seems weird. It would look so much better if it was black/grey and brown to contrast the white and brown of the day form.
Wait for its shiny form ??
Oh that’ll be green, for sure. 😉
And ffs Ash looks younger again on the poster. Are they gonna pull a Unova again? Reset him, after all he accomplished in Kalos?
i feel like they are giving us a choice. crazy art pokemon or return to simple designs. i love this!
We FINALLY have a wolf Pokemon, AND werewolf Pokemon.
I can officially die happy.
mmmkay
*Shotgun blast*
Lol, thank you. You’ve done me a great service. xD
Yeah I’m the professional when it comes to killing in cold blood
Lots of thoughts but I noticed two things in the anime poster
The water trial captain is sitting on … A motorcycle ? Or is that a Pokemon?
And what is on top of Charizard is the top left corner?
The fire trial captain with Alolan Marowak and the water one is on the Lapras sitting thing.
I guess you are right but the angles for Lapras and the spikes behind the fire guy made me do a double take
Ash actually ages???!!!! he wants to graduate from school???? what?????? still 10 years old memes will die lol
He graduates aged 10 obviously.
lol i wouldn’t call that graduating lmao. plus 10 years old is only like 5 grade so maybe…
Serena friendzoned and Greninja left to rot (or worse, released) in Oak’s lab.
You were expecting something different?
I had hopes of him bringing Greninja, but it was more of a dream rather than expectation.
Greninja would be too powerful early on in a region.
Remember gen 2 when he took Charizard to Johto, that didn’t end well for anyone so they had to do a release episode.
Also they need marketing for the new generation, Greninja would overshadow that
Yup I get that. But it also looks like Ash is younger. Reset again? I really don’t hope that this is the case after Kalos arc.
They always change the art style so I wouldn’t use that as an indication of his age.
Also a reset to his skill is possible, but I hope not a complete reset like Unova was.
unova was a reboot this isn’t
And Ash looks even younger…. Ugrh so annoying… They should have him grow up a bit at least a bit
Yep looks to me like they’ve done a reset. Unova all over again I think. Watch his Pikachu lose to a Wimpod in the first episode or something lol
don’t make assumptions
younger? its just a more relaxed art style
good. i dont want to see ash greninja
Ehh, its a hard call. Its likely she’s gone, but they could be pulling A Brock on us, with her showing up after the first episode’s, much like she did when first introduced.
Bruh this game is gonna be fucking fantastic
Apparently CoroCoro will show the true strength of Type:Null in the next issue. Looking forward to that!
I imagine the starters also get day/night evolutions.
I don’t think the two Rockruff evolutions are considered different Pokemon, so it could work for the starters as well.
In all my years as a fan Ive never disliked anything until i just saw how Ash could look in the anime
10:45: It also states that UB01’s name is a mystery but may have a deep meaning
10:58: It also reveals that it will show the true strength of the new Pokémon, Type: Null, during its next issue We’ll bring more as it comes
so mysterious…. UB= Ultra Beast 01= the first one…
Everybody already knows what Null is but whatever
lol we know nothing other than design, type, and that its artificial
Well I know that its a chimaera and has bird like legs, aquatic tail, feline head and a canine base plus Arceus’s symbol as its mouthpiece. You figure out the rest.
ie. design
Lol yeah sure, its probably just design. Whatever works for you. Read Null’s describtion on the website again, specifically the final line and come back to me.
yh ok i didnt say that but theres still so much to learn about it
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/775272639808012288
I think Rickruffs are version exclusives now I’m pissed cause I like the lighter one better
its already been confirmed that its based on time of day.
Oh I thought for a moment they were exclusive to game this sounds better than that
I think it’s interesting how this year in terms of news they’re kind of focusing the spotlight on a couple new ones instead of showing everything like in sixth gen. Unless of course they’ve shown us everthing once again and we’ll all be disappointed.
I believe there are five UB… We still need the Starter Evo and their split sun and moon evo and a few more evos.
The alolan Marowak trainer is riding Charizard
Which types do you think Rockruffs evos will be?
Day – Rock
Night – Rock/Dark
Naah I don’t think so , maybe dark/rock , and rock/normal so they both have 4 times weakness to fighting.
They don’t usually make split evolutions equal in terms of weaknesses.
Normal adds very little to the Pokemon anyway. Dark/Fairy would make more sense, but I don’t want it to be Fairy
i think just rock and dark/rock. although…..this would be a perfect time to announce light type
I thought of fire or maybe fairy for the day form…
that could work
Day form has nothing that would justify being a Fairy. Pure rock would suffice.
technically fairy is light type in japan so if you wanted light type it would most likely be rock.fairy (day form) and rock/dark(night form)
Uhhhhhh no
The Fairy type (Japanese: フェアリータイプ Fairy type) not light
If those UB turn out to be actual pokemon , and have a place in the pokedex , then I’m not playing anymore pokemon games they’re in apart from SuMo.
You didnt like the enormousness of the red mosquito?
It gave me cancer.
Thx arceus im not the only one hating the new UB’s
I guess just like Gen4 when I first saw Giratina my impresion was.. whats all this garbage put together…….
So no Alolan Arbok then.
i love how the UBs look nothing like pokemon. Im guessing they’ll get a UBdex to record their info but im still unsure as to whether you can catch them or return them to where they came from
Could have at least given 1-2 more new guys for speculation purposes.
I currently have 0 interest in Ultra Beasts
With the UB-Expansion fighting Tapu Koko, what if Aether are trying to get rid of the island guardians and turn all the other 4 islands into an artificial “paradise”, with the UBs subbing in for “guardians”
I mean UB -01’s name hasn’t been revealed yet which makes me think that it was the first one and subsequently, the Aether Foundation used it’s DNA or whatever and artificially created Beauty & Expansion
That would be cool , however I’m starting to think that tapu koko is unique , and that we won’t get other totem pokemon….
I believe there was a statement that each island has a guardian deity.
Hopefully you’re correct.
Rough translations about the SuMo anime:
”Ash will receive a Z-ring and meet the Melemele island guardian Tapu Koko. Ash is going to school and his goal is to graduate ”like never before”
I guess Ash getting Rowlet means a second Grass Powerhouse. Here’s hoping he doesn’t get any of the other starters, and catches a Salandit
so he spends 20 years as a 10 year old then graduates in the space of 1 region looool
but…..school?! why…just WHY 🙁
Anyone notice that Bewear with Team Rocket under its arms
Please please for the love of all things running gag please make this Bewear follow them everywhere they go just to hug them
The Bewear belongs to James, calling it now. They will re-introduce the Victreebell running gag.
The Victreebell, Cacnea, the other grass fly eater.. yep its James alright
Ehhh I think that’s too much
Jessie Salandrit
James…..nothing so far that would go with him maybe Sandygast
NO ASH HAS TO CATCH SALANDIT
He ain’t gonna catch it
Deel with it
#Salandit4Ash
I will send my bulky Aegislash to haunt you when this is true!
Earthquake
Jessie: Salandit or as you said sandygast
James: Bewear!
I was hoping that gag would be for ash oh well
i think it definitely will be part of team rocket lol tbh i thought they would. makes huge sense
he is so HUGE in the anime and still looks as bad as ever :/
Oh no ! For me now, I don’t like the design they gave Ash for Alola :
It won’t spoil it for me but it’s certainly not my favourite.
You do realize this is a early scan and that kooky grin is from performing a Z-Pose
It’s gonna be fine
Yes I do realise that. I didn’t mention his face his design clothing wise is what I’m not a huge fan of.
Really? I think Ash looks so cute in that striped jersey xD
Maybe because I potentially have that same outfit lol
Haha to be fair if I had the same shirt ID probably be saying it’s the best design yet ?
His new outfit is completely horrendous
they changed the style of the anime its so obvious, no finger nails, diferent eye, simplified edges, we all saw this style on other animes before and it was never good..I just hope the animation is good.
UB-01 is Lillie.
UB-02 beauty is Lusamine
UB-02 expansion is????
Lusamine when she’s mad?
PMS-ing Lusamine
Expansion is Dr. Robotnik (or Dr. Eggman)
Reminds me of Gladion (colors)
Me, cleaning after other people… There all pigs I tell ya!
could be gladion?
would have liked the masculine UB-02 in moon considering sun already has the masculine box legend
Also, I mean I guess this disconfirms Artleaka’s drawings, I mean the Rockruff evo is different
Completely different… Good cuz I disliked Popplios evo that squiggidi thing with a ponytail…
For Rockruff’s evo, taken from Serebii:
“It notes that Rockruff becomes the Day form when bathed in the rays of the sun and when full of the night’s power, it becomes the Night form.”
Couldn’t this also mean that it may not be a spilt evo depending on the time of the 24 hour period you evolve it, but rather it could mean that during the day it looks one way and at night it has a different forme?
I prefer formes tbh because I hate having to choose which one I’m going to stick with on my main team and which I’m just going to store…
I hope it’s just a Wormadam type evolution and I think it will be
That would be so annoying having it constantly change during playthrough
If the translation is correct Rockruff’s evolution changes appearance based on time of day instead of being a straight evolution? That could be pretty cool actually, I am a fan of the day time appearance but would be awesome for when the moon comes out he transforms.
Best to get Sun then so it’s mostly in its day form when I’m playing.
I will be getting Sun as i prefer how Alola looks during the day!
some days ago I found this “leak” in 4chan and I took a screenshot (but I didn’t save the link :(( ) . He/she guessed the Rockruff day/night evolution split… but I am not sure if they are true leaks or not. Btw, does anyone have the link to this? [PIC]
Rockruff split evolution theory was one of the earlier leaks after its initial reveal in Corocoro
Yeah that’s true, everyone could write that lol
Theres also a scan regarding pokemon go. Im assumin it means you can transfer mons from go to SM and that it will take up its Alolan Forme
Urrggh….I hope not.
Pokemon Go is a separate entity from the main games. Technically it’s not even made by Pokemon, but by Niantic, I very much doubt it will be compatible with the main series games.
It was already confirmed by Masuda that GO would eventually be compatible with Sun and Moon
Really? Must have missed that.
Damn it
He said that they thought about something like it but that hardly confirms it will definitely happen.
Maybe something with the NX sonce the rumors are it will be part mobile(not phone but handheld)
It just meant that Pokemon you’ve been seeing in Go now have new forms. Highly doubt they would ever implement it.
ooh makes sense i guess
Anyone else a little disappointed we probably won’t get this Alolan Fighting Arbok ? ??
I wanted that AB-bok with abs 🙁
Lol no pattern on its belly just a heavy set 6 pack ! ?
“To survive in the Alola region, Arbok had to get abs to impress the pokemon at the beach”
xD
let Alola Arbok wrap you around those abs
I’m happy
No. Game Freak has done enough pandering to genwunners.
Corocoro spoils me by telling me next issue will have Type: Null news. Now I can’t wait for then! .-.
Better than 3 months waiting for exclusive info i guess lool
The chinese leaker said Marshadow has a unique type combination. it’s called Type: null and can’t be simply a normal type, what do you need more. I think we were all wrong thinking marshadow as the third legendary pokemon in the trio. It may simply be something like Rotom or Heatran…
Well there are theories that Type: Null was an experiment meant to be an artificial Arceus. Even the collar at the base of the helmet is shaped like the arc thing on Arceus’ body. And the whole story with how the helmet it wears restrains its true power… I wanna know EVERYTHING about this pokemon!
Actually that helmet reminds the helmet of Mars, God of War.
Nice! I never thought of that before! It has me thinking that there’ll be a pokemon to represent all the planets lol. Maybe I’m going too far
marshadow isn’t type null
Sonic the Wereh- Rockruffs night evo is looking to be one of my favourite pokemon design wise
That game sucked but I will say… I really enjoyed the little “Night of the Werehog’ minimovie
Ok. Rockruff evolution is based on time but will it change form or it’s a split evolution? Those three beasts are a family: Aether fondation boss, Lillie and Lillie’s father (the real enemy we have yet to see)
What about Lillie’s mother… And the guy with Type:Null. I think there are 5 UB total
Type: Null isn’t an Ultra Beast though
not that we know of but they did mention on serebii that they will show on next months corocoro about Type: Null’s “true strength” so who knows it could be….
Well it has a name, type, ability and height and weight
It is a Pokemon
Null is a Pokemon, just look on the Sun and Moon website. UB-01 has its own page though.
Probably a form without the mask it seems to have a TapuKoKo caw-like thing on its head
They called it a Shell on the site
Yeah I was counting the kid not TN ?
So how will Ash learn about Alola? The answer is already spoilt: Samson Oak. Professor Oak will probably want to visit him and will ask Ash to join him.
Well we got two months of build up
And don’t forget we got to get through the past companion episode arc AKA Iris, which I want to see play out maybe with Drasna
What’s a Drasna ?
Drasna is one of the Kalos elite 4
Ah yes, the Kalos Elite 4
She is a Dragon-type trainer which explains the connection to Iris.
Yeah that makes sense! I don’t really see any other way other than that!
Man they took a huge step forward with the animation in Pokemon XY anime, but it looks like they’ll take a big step back… Well at least in Ash’s design. At least he gets a Rowlet. Love the Rockruff evos though.
I doubt the UB are as linked with Aether as people think they are. Why make Lusamine UB-02 Beauty if it only appears in one version?
Yes they are natural phenomenon which two of them just happen to look exactly like Lillie and Lusamine. Proper logic right here
Exactly is a bit of a stretch. I’m just not jumping to conclusions just yet. But wouldn’t something so heavy plotwise be in both games?
My theory is it’s the Magma/Aqua thing. One version, one Aethor turns to Beauty, in the other version, one turns to Expansion
Ok maybe but then who’s the really buff guy who turns into Expansion?
Maybe not revealed yet? Idk, just a guess, but if there IS a big buff guy in Aether, I think that’d definitively give away what the Ultrabeasts are about.
Yea, guess we wait and see. I definitely wouldn’t say it’s a definite link just yet.
Anyone else remembers that pick with ash in alola and pikachu on his shoulder that quickly got shut down? Turns out it was real all along since in the leaked pic he had the same shirt on as in the corocoro scan.
This Shirt is the same as the one as the male protag wears.
So a there was a lot of fanart of Ash with his clothes
So night and day forms for the starters confirmed?
The SuMo anime is giving me Best Wishes vibes..
But it’s too early to judge,and hopefully it’ll turn out to be as good as XY
Haha you’re so spot on its frightening. XY and XYZ were so damn good. It’d be such a waste if they just flush that all down the drain with this seemingly Alola reset.
I blame the goofy ass grin Ash has for scaring you. But hopefully the series will be good. Dont know how/why they’re going to do this whole go to school thing though. I guess it’ll shift to the island challenge at some point in time?
Sounds plausible to me. After the Best Wishes debacle, surely they wouldn’t make the same mistake?
Meh, I applaud them for trying something new and refreshing. Plus, Black and White was a ratings juggernaut and the anime needs a saving grace.
They did not implement Best Wishes properly and I don’t really think a saving grace will really win me over after hearing about the Kalos finals debacle. The “anime” (in my not so humble opinion) needs a complete do over.
You all talk about the Pokémon anime like it was ever really good. It’s a kids show. Talk to me when they finally decide to make an actual series that’s as mature as Pokémon Origins.
Truth. I stopped watching the anime 19 years ago. Team Rocket and Ash’s utter ineptitude turned me away from the show and I focused on the comics and games.
Exactly. Like it’s definitely capable of being endearing at times, but it tries way too hard to be exclusively for its targeted demographic. I can really enjoy a “kids” show like Steven Universe or Adventure Time when it isn’t afraid to explore darker themes through the more innocent/naive lens of a young protagonist. But Pokémon is very blatantly just a kids show and nothing more.
Nah, being a show for children is not a jail free card for kid’s entertainment. The creators just did not give a rat’s ass. Besides mindless fodder like this are doing children a huge dis-service.
well pokemon generations
Haha yea. Definitely cool. I’m excited. But why can’t I just get an ongoing anime that’s an adaptation of the games or manga?
Well there’s Pokémon Generations, but the episodes will be 3-5 minutes long.
how looks nothing like bw BW WAS A REBOOT
Zero relevance if it was a reboot. The entire show was pathetic
I would not hold my breath.
It might be like that… because on Serebii they mention. “In the series, Ash is going to school and his goal is to Graduate “like never before”.
same here BW was the worst anime I’ve ever seen, it felt like they dont give a slightest shit about the anime
In regards to the starter forms if correct and assuming they have Day and Night formes, I think Littens was night, Rowlets was Night and Popplios was day- but I guess you can make a case for both. Also its intreaguing to think how they can differentiate the formes without slapping on a dark typing
Really? I’d say Rowlet day, litten night and popplio night, since mermaids are often associated with the moon
All of them should have both night and day forms.
sorry I meant the ones from the leak
Oh ok …..That would be strange but I feel all of them have day form even Litten he should be more black in night form.
Soooooo apparently there’s already rule 34 type furry shit with Rockruff’s werewolf evo already lmao…
Verl must be so happy rn -_-
Well it’s inevitable
About Popplio’s evolution:
I don’t get it. Grass starters are based on prehistoric animals. Fire starters are based on the Chinese zodiac. But water starters are based on weapons. But what weapon is Popplio’s evo based on?
Blastoise (cannon), Feraligatr (brass knuckles), Swampert (Japanese war fan), Empoleon (trident), Samurott (samurai sword) and Greninja (ninja stars) are all based on obvious weapons. What weapon will Popplio’s evo be based on?
Martial artist like Earthen explained yesterday
How?
Ehhh I dont remember exactly, he explained it yesterday but he feels it’ll be Water/Fighting
OMG what?! I knew about grass and fire but I didnt know water ones were weapons .-.
I just assumed they chose random amphibians
Didnt know that either… ?
The greatest weapon of all: Seduction. You’ve heard tales of the siren’s song I presume ;P
That sounds plausible
I don’t think water starters are based on weapons, it’s reaching.
Sonic pulse?
I honestly believe that all of this is bullshit and fans trying to force a pattern when it Doesn’t exist.
You do know that theory has been debunked for awhile, right. Chespin pretty much did away with the prehistoric argument since its literally an Armadillo. The firs starter argument has been debunked several times over given it requires you to stretch your logic by a fair bit, and made worse as their are often prime pokemon pics that would have made more sense for it. Heck even the water weapons theory is just the result of people wanting to replace the theory that all water starters are amphibious theory, due to the fact that they sort of have to be..
Chespin is thought to be first mamallian and Fire thing is still going on imo.
Fox isn’t part of the Zodiac
But arent foxes canines?
And the Tiger is a feline that would make two i. The zodiac.
Yes and no. Technically they are if you look in the most broad category of species, but that’s like saying a Gorilla and a human are the same thing. As well, you have the whole elephant in the rood that we have Houndoom. If they really wanted to go that route of the Chinese Zodiac, they could have easily used it as a starter in gen 2, introducing the dark type for player much more easily as well, instead of using the stretch we have now that says a hedgehog is a mouse.
When I first saw Fennekin, I thought fire dog!
Foxes and Dogs are very different.
Heck, not even Typhlosion is a rat
Ok, that’s your opinion.
same family close enough
Dude cyndaquil is literally the fire mouse Pokemon… And fennekin is a canine (read: dog) for all extended purposes.
Why you trying to fight it girl ?
Ball?
http://pre04.deviantart.net/7f69/th/pre/f/2016/195/4/f/entermaid_by_zidanemina-da9ys7i.jpg
Feraligatr and Swampert are BIT of a stretch. Plus wouldn’t call Serperior and Chestnaught prehistoric exactly.
Popplio will be based on a Spear.
Interesting observation. Slightly reaching but still plausible
the weapon of disapointment
I still prefere THIS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmjSiCLWIAAvHOT.jpg
Delete before people see
Neat *snaps pic*
Those body proportions are so off
What I dont get in fan art is when they make en evo they just add more and make bigger of whatever the pkmn already has… Like almost no changes… Not critisizing cuz we do have Voltorb and Electrode.
ya but looks better than the real one
that ^ looks fucking horrendous!! ide rather have the night evo than this
Day forme seems really child friendly. Night one could scar the kid for life
Welp, Rockruff evo’s revealed. I may get some flak for this, but am I the only one who will be slightly disinterested from here on out if the news isn’t starter-related?
EDIT: Or Alola Form
Ya me too
Are all the UB’s going to be based on characters? UB 1 looks like Lilly and UB 2 beauty looks like that aether foundation president person.. I’m not sure about UB expansion though
Note: Corocoro said nothing about the starters, not even mention there will be something in next issue.
How many chances we will get them on 14th?
or gf wants tu have us be surprised
Soooo if Rockruff’s evo is a forme change and not split evo then that means the starters have forme changes too because they “share a secret” and that means Rowlett could be an archer at night and maybe a CEO of a family business during the day…
At night it just has to become someone else… it has to become… something else
“Rowlett could be an archer at night and maybe a CEO of a family business during the day”
Upvote for the reference xD
Oliver the Owl!
Anyone for Beltigre the Drag Queen for night time bar hoppin?
It doesn’t necessarily mean that. It has been said that they share a secret, but there’s no guarantee this is what they were talking about. There might still be something we don’t know about Rockruff.
Owliver Queen
Arrow!
Owliver Queen
Serebii.net translated it and yes they are split evolutions and not different forms.
No, serebii says different forms too. not split evos.
ba ha ha…i havent laughs so hard in a while
New Pokemon Series about Rowlet’s Evo confirmed
I like theories as much as the next guy but I definitely wouldn’t jump to any conclusions yet regarding the plot. People have a tendency to get upset when media doesn’t match the headcanon they had established. It kinda happened to X&Y and probably happen with Sun & Moon.
What theories you talking about? Reboot? Debunked via the poster. The only one thats still alive is alchemy theory and the existence of Null only further confirms it.
Ok let it be Wednesday so we can get some more effing info
NEED NEW POKEMON
The new ultra beasts are giving me a Kim possible vibe xD
Some cool Alola forms I just found
http://pre00.deviantart.net/2720/th/pre/i/2016/242/5/f/alolan_blastoise_by_phatmon-dafwcgo.png
http://pre15.deviantart.net/23c3/th/pre/i/2016/221/b/7/mawile___alola_form_by_locomotive111-dadaon0.png
http://img15.deviantart.net/1c9d/i/2016/216/a/f/alolan_dugtrio_by_ferrari94-dacn1lh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CquVz7uWgAAJnle.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/13680425_1068500609902042_5799521858729345983_o.png
Oh yeah refresh
Looooove that alolan dodrio !
That Dodrio looks amazing
Love it! I bet it was the Artleak leaker who drew these as well! The flamingo Doduo and Alolan Mawile were great!
“cool”…. Vanilite is literally the best one in these…
So what are their typings? Day = ground or rock and night = ghost or dark?
Those UB remind me of the mutant insects in Hunter X Hunter .
I’m starting to get the feeling that we’ll have another Aqua/Magma going with Aether/Skull. In one game Skull is good and Aether is evil, and vice versa the other game. This would of explain the version differences for UB-02; Beauty is Aether(Lusamine), and Expansion could be Skull (that parts a guess because I can’t figure out who it is).
I want a rockroff split evo…. I love the ‘day’ version, hate the ‘night’ one
How could hate night form I can’t stop looking at him day form is good though.
Its horrible xD
Buy Sun. 😉
Haha , serebii is saying that it depends when u let HIM evolve in what version he evolves..
But im the sun version yes!
it seems like they changed the anime style again.
Rockruffs evolution looks AMAZING
the Ultra beasts are CRAP and doesnt even look like they belong to the franshise
Probably because they look a little too reminiscent of certain individuals from the Aether Foundation… and are actually not Pokemon.
they are pokemon as far as we know, atleast Type null is considered a pokemon
Ultra Beasts are not Pokemon. they have their own page on the SuMo website
Type Null isn’t an ultra beast though… There still hasn’t been confirmation on if ultra beasts are Pokemon or not.
WHAATT ? I thought he was….then why the heck he looks like that and have a human made helmet….?
He’s said to be a synthetic Pokemon, probably created through gene splicing. He’s listed as a Pokemon on the Japanese and English official sites, UB-01 isn’t.
So if it’s true that Rockruff’s form changes depending on the day or night…
Does that mean it’s based on princess Fiona?
We’re doing Shrek for the musical this year…. ???
Loved the musical actually! Still a bigger fan of the films though 🙂
Jangmo-o evolves into a donkragon.
this also confirms no serena in alola 😀
That remain’s to be scene. They could easily be pulling a Brock on us, having an old character return after the first few episodes, like they did with Sinnoh I think. I know they did it once in the anime. That, and it seems like an odd choice to remove her. They redesigned the character to likely make her their own version so they could easily reuse her in the future, and really given how things are framed, it doesn’t seem likely that Mallow will join ash.
I could actually see that happening since 2017 is the anime’s 20th anniversary. I could see the likes of Brock, Misty, May, Max, Iris, Dawn etc all returning in a 1-hour special or something
That could happen, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I just simply mean that we have one promo image and a few stills of what likely is the first episode to go off of. We have no idea who’s going to be going with ash on his journey, and its best we just wait and see before we start cheering that they removed a character you didn’t like, or booing that Ash’s companion isn’t the person you wanted.
there isnt gonna be a journary Ash will be in school, and the girl with green hair will most likely accompany Ash
it seems like they changed everything the style is diferent…kind of like how they did with BW , but I highly doubt it becaue the scans said that Ash will receive a Z Ring and meet the Melemele Island Guardian, Tapu Koko. In the series, Ash is going to school and his goal is to graduate “like never before”
So there is no point of having her
UB-02 BEAUTY looks so much like Lusamine it’s not even funny… especially considering they have the same pose! I really think the Aether Foundation are experimenting on humans and Pokemon in hopes of them becoming one or something Fullmetal Alchemist sh*t.
How much chance for an English trailer about this happening this week?
99-100% There’s going to be an English trailer on Wednesday at 10pm JST
I’m also glade that this confirms thart the leaks from before are fake, the one with water arcanine and synchro evolution
nope it doesn’t confirm their fake at all
Yeah, it does, the Rockruff Evo from there doesn’t look anything like either form of Rugarugan.
Leakers add fake stuff so they aren’t caught. And the chinese leak that got stuff right is confirming synchros
Artleaka also said that there were only four totem Pokemon, which we know is false, since Alolan Raticate is also a totem. Much as I’d like those designs to be real, they’re pretty much confirmed fake by Rugarugan.
it said we get synchro it didn’t say when
the rockruff evo in these leaks was so diferent, and crapy
Ignorance
he didn’t get a grass type in xyz so he gets it here whynot
And massive L to the people having doubts which version to buy. I’m getting both 😀
Same here.
Moon ftw, although that sun rockruff Evo does make me consider getting both, but daytime is boring to me, I like the night
what about rotom does he get his own does oak give him one I mean itll prob go home with him
Um… Is that art for the anime how it’s going to look or just an art? Cause if that is how ash is going to look. Oh boy
It’s just a grin for prefoming a Z Move
Ugh I really liked the animation this season. It was spectacular and now they give us this? Hopefully it looks better when they actually show us officially.
Meh I dont think they’re gonna do, what you probably have in mind. Maybe a soft reset so that Ash isn’t too powerful right at the start, but thats it. They can’t justify a complete reset after the Kalos league and TF arc.
its more laid back for the reigon also prob just for coro coro itll look better animated
Oh Komala on that tower
Nice catch …..this tower bring me back to Dragon ball Z and Komala though.
I wonder if this is all we’ll be getting. I mean, we technically only got one new Pokemon, which is disappointing this close to release. Maybe we’ll get more on the 14th? *fingers crossed*
Corocoro said they’ll have a poster with Rockruff’s evolved form, I don’t see that here so there could be more pages.
UB-02 is sooooo Lusamine
Does she? Both eyes uncovered..the hair doesn’t look the same (just length). Colors, I’d give you that.. Also wears some tiara/crown Lusamine doesn’t have.
RF
Serebii is stating that the form depends on when you let rockruff evolve day/night..
Would love that!! I love the day version
I honestly can’t decide which one I like better.
DAY!
Side note: HAPPY 18TH BIRTHDAY TO POKEMON YELLOW!
It’s legal now
Wait…were Alolan forms just confirmed for Pokémon GO..?
What?
Pokejungle cropped it, but it shows a picture of Alolan forms tied to a GO screenshot.
No, according to Serebii, it just says that some Pokemon from GO have alternate forms in Alola (Alolan forms).
Really nice design for Rockruff’s evo. There was no need of that synchro shit.
But, those Ultra Beasts.. I really doubt those are even catchable. As one of those resemble Lusamine and has been already said, maybe those creatures are mixes of other pokemon and humans.
Some rumours stated Ultra Beasts are the result of a dimension in which pokemon and humans are the same. That would be amazing; I hope, however, those mixes aren’t true “pokemon”. Just in order to keep the traditional way, although all those innovative changes fit nicely in the plot.
So the blondes in the game share 1 thing in common they all have UB’s resembling them. Looks like Pokemon and Persona fused lol
Okay, so basically we got
.Larry the Lobster as an Ultra Beast
.The Ayyy Lmao alien as an Ultra Beast
.a weird dog
. And (censored) VERLISIFY?! KILL ME
Oh god your comment just helped me decide that I like the day version better. >.<
XD well
Totally
He will probably use it as his avatar now… ?
It’s actually him.. Smh..
Pokemon are too special to be like Vers.fly
Way to f*ck up a pokemon for everyone..
Okay, but take away the Verlis association, and Rockruff’s evolutions actually have really nice design. Some of the best in Gen VII so far, IMO.
True.
I would love for that Bewear to just follow Team Rocket all around Alola wanting to hug them for whatever reason
I already said that
No better, James get it, and like Victrebell and Cacnea, it tries to hug James (who knows its deadly) so he comically tries to get away from it XD
Yes but you ruled out my suggestion that Ash will catch a Salandit. SO YOU MUST BURN
I’m fireproof
I’ll get a female day rugarugan. But again I’ll already have a female ninetales hmmmmm
Why does that matter? o.o confused
They’re both Canine and I might not want to have two pkm that kinda look alike on my team at the same time? lol
Ohh I understand now
Ok so, Wednesday English trailer probably and Thursday most likely the Sun and Moon anime trailer. Very interesting week 😀
So according to Serebii, the next Pokemon anime will be a school based “slice of life” style anime . Kinda new and interesting to see how it does, and how Ash will fail to graduate XD
R.I.P Pokemon Anime
Hoenn-Kalos (Excluding BW)
Going the My Little Pony route? Unfortunately for Ashy Boy here, the writers will fuck it up. The Mane Six have actually done something that Ash will never do, achieve their dreams (and in a smaller number of episodes too).
Gets to the final exam and doesn’t get the necessary score to beat it.
This is cool knowing the starters might have separate evolutions but will it just be the final evos or will it start from the the second stage????
Also can’t wait till the 14 for more news!!!!
So it looks like Mallow with a bouncesweet will be joining ash and Lilly will be in the anime with a vulpix so does that mean Lilly is human and the UB01 is just based on her? Because I can’t see UB having any Pokemon
UBs are alien maybe? Idk, we saw UB-01 coming through a portal in last week’s trailer.
Think of that UB like Latias in her movie. They just resemle humans.
Can you see Ash’s male companion?
Ehhh I was thinking maybe Sophocles could join him, kind of like a more extreme version of Clemont.
Nah. Brock should come back.
No
Not going to watch any episodes.
Anyone else notice how the anime has a new art style? IDK it seems odd for me, maybe because XY’s animation was over the top for me. But I do think they are straying from the old formula with him being in School. Maybe like the games, Ash is leaving Kanto and moving to Alola hence he needs to get an education XD
Also kinda shocking that Ash is wearing an exact copy of the male Sun and Moon player’s default cloths.
He wears Calem’s default clothes in XY as well
Hmm never noticed it. Aww well, also I kinda am indifferent with this new art style, as it makes Ash and Pikachu look a bit odd. And frm my guess in the photos, it seems Ash will get Rowlet or Litten, as Popplio is being held my Lana, giving me the idea that she may own it. Also he might have different companions since this is a school based anime an all, making me hopeful that it’ll have comedy.
It’s too early to judge.
But I’m not getting my hopes up, it looks like a significant downgrade from XY(Z)
I dont see how they could justify another complete reset after what they’ve done with the Kalos league and now TF arc. Maybe a soft reset so that Ash isn’t too powerful right at the start.
Ash would probably get Rowlet first, and then Litten later on, who would then evolve into it’s final form. (The same formular as Ash’s Charmander and Chimchar)
He only wore the same top with short sleeves. The rest was completely altered.
Rockruff needs a 2nd evolution. This punk/emo werewolf is a joke.
I was expecting to like the “werewolf”-like form of Rockruff’s evolution more but I gotta say, the day version looks waaaay better. Maybe it’s the red, kind of off putting.
So for Rockruff. Is it two different evos? A second and third evo? Or one evo with an alternative form?
Corocoro is a bit vague. It doesn’t rule out that it is one evo with form changes, or that it’s two evos dependent on the time of day.
Wednesday will give an answer to these questions.
Am I literally the only one, who doesn’t have an issue with the Night form? I dont even care it looks like Verlis.
Me neither i love those red eyes
I’m actually a big fan of the werewolf form. Totes using it.
So, people though Gumshoos looks like Donald Trump.
I like the Night version better than Day to be honest. Feral werewolf looks awesome!
who doesn’t have an issue???………it’s Fabulous!!!.
I love both forms! Great designs.
Verlis? Let’s not go there.. also, “his character” is rather generic.
It kinda reminds me of Coyote.
I always knew Ash was part of Team Aqua.
I love you <3 CoroCoro ^V^
I like the new style; clean/crips with bright colors. I’m also looking forward to the genre overhaul. Slice of life and school anime have been doing very well and the biggest film in Japan right now and possibly in Japanese film history is a slice of life film known as Your Name. so I wasn’t surprised Pokemon jumped on the wagon.
What does that even mean? Slice of life?
Basically its like normal life of people, no super natural stuff, adventures that may actually happen, all with a plot focus. In this case its like a form of that mixed with Pokemon.
Deals with real and everyday problems and plays out like how humans live their lives. It’s very calm, not much goes on, and often times to combat that they add fantasy or action. Pokemon is not going to be a true slice of life, more like a blend.
I dont like it at all, I prefere the XY style, and least they had finger nails, something that always bothered me when I was little, and I really dont like animes with such simplified style…I hope the animation is good and not like BW
Trust me, it will be. Also, this style of animation is the norm now for television in Japan with a few exceptions. Simple, elongated, bright or muted colors, and a few artistic embellishments.
I dont trust the anime at all, the BW was the worst anime I’ve ever seen in terms of quality, XY was great just because the animation was so good and fights were bad ass, if they are going with this cutie style that we often see in girls anime, I dont think we will see the same kind of animation quality as XY,
still I’m gonna have to wait for the trailer to Judge the quality, but as for now I dont like the style.
I agree, but the animation still seems a bit off for me personally as it makes Ash and Pikachu a bit odd looking. I’m still interested in seeing this anime unfold, though it’ll have to wait like Sun and Moon until after my exams are done.
I think they’re gonna do it in their own way though, which is good. By ‘school’ it probably means how Ash learns stuff during the trails.
Yeah, I really don’t think he is physically going to attend a school lol. I think its what will eventually change into Island Challenges
The art style reminds me of digimon
So if UB-01 is some type of Lillie-Jellyfish and UB-02 Beauty is some sort of Lusamine-Fish Bones, then who and what is UB-02 Expansion?
… Lysandre
DUN DUN DUUUUUUN
He looks like Team Skull’s enforcer dude
I thought Lusamine was a cockroach.
Mosquito full of blood.
Gotta go to school guys, bye! I don’t care if I’m late. 😛
Take Ash with you so that kid won’t fail class like he does with the Leagues XD
Aye aye sir!
Aye sir! (Please read that in a Happy voice)
Mallow is holding a spoon, is she going to be Ash’s cooking companion? What about Lillie she’s wearing a very different outfit.
She’s gonna eat that Bounsweet
She’s also holding a spoon in the games. She is probably a cook
Nah. She likes eating Bounsweet
This is an evil speculation but I’ll allow it
I feel Lana set on unkown pokemon.
You mean in that picture? Because the Pokémon she has in the picture is Popplio
Don’t worry just english issue I meant she set down on a new pkmn.
Where?
in the pic that red thing.
hey guys,remember from the leaks said that Rock Ruff is going to evolve into a werewolf,you know what this means?
What leak said that? Please elaborate mate?
it means the leaks a couple of days back are real!
Mind giving a link to that mate? Interested in seeing these leaks now.
That leak isn’t real. The Werewolf thing was obvious from the official site description. The leak from a couple days ago just put that in their leak to try and make it more credible. All their other info appears to be fake.
Phew thank goodness.
That leak gave us everything true, not a single fake info till now. Rockruff night form is clearly based on a werewolf. Stop being so boring cause even leakers are human and not robot. Seeing that I wold have said werewolf too, not thinking : “wait, but all people will discredit me because it’s not half-human, like that guy with alola rattata not being dark type but dark/normal. Huge mistake”. That leak is completly true andthose starters are too.
Everyone knew it’d be a werewolf from its flavor text on the official site.
It’s not a werewolf though. That would imply in can become human or is at least somewhat humanoid. It’s just a wolf and angrier wolf.
A werewolf is human, so its fake
The new Ultra Beasts look like something from Men in Black. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones cameo in the anime confirmed.
I hope Ultra Beasts were just added onto to the games to spice up the story. I don’t know what to feel about.. catching those things and using them in battle.
Any details on what the types are for Rockruff’s evolution’s yet? Or was that not specified in Coro Coro?
Don’t think it was specified
Aww well, then I guess we will have to wait till Wednesday. I wonder what they will show, because just showing the two new UB forms as well as Rockruff’s evos will be kinda short lol
I think its Day form is pure Rock and its Night form Rock/Dark.
Ok. Here’s a better way to refer to the UB-02s. UB-02 Beauty can be UB-02, UB-B2 Expansion can be UB-E2. It’s easier to say.
Aw, it’s another crappy form change, not a split evolution? I wish GF would jump off the form changes ship already, they are BORING. I want something permanent. Plus night doggy does not appeal to me half as much as day doggy 🙁
We’re not sure it’s a form change or a split evolution
“It appears that it may change form during day and night, not simply a split evolution”
I’m aware that the translations are still a work in progress, but yeah… ^^; I was hoping for an Umbreon/Espeon type thing haha.
“The name of the Pokémon Rockruff evolves into is Lugarugan and has a different appearance based on if it evolves in Day or in Night.” – Serebii
Like Meowstic but with times of day instead of gender
I don’t mind if they are form changes as long as you can store them into the PC system and they retain it.. much like Sawsbuck’s seasonal change. That way it could work as a split evolution.
I hope that you eventually kill the ultra beasts in the game cause they are so ugly and shouldnt have existed
Your actual quest is to rid the world of Ultra Beasts.
Sounds like my kind of game
where did it say that ? but thats sounds good as long as they dont end up with the lets live together in peace with the freacking celestial blood sucking humanoid beasts
Nah, I was just going off of your comment.
I hope that’s the case though. Ultra Beasts are considered an abomination by the people on Unova, so your overall objective is to shutdown the UB programme being conducted by the Aether Foundation.
Team Skull believe in the natural order, and are essentially PETA in the Pokemon world, against pokemon experimentation.
Well I guess the giant red muscular mosquito seals the deal for me! I’m now most likely going for Pokémon Sun! Just hope the Ultra Beast are catchable but they make it really hard… Example: Collect every Pokemon on MeleMele Island to catch UB-01.
Or it could be post game. Once you have defeated all the Ultra Beast you can go back to battle them again and this time they are catchable.
@pokejungle thanks for the “Spoilers” banner btw. Anyway I couldn’t resist to read it 😛
I made it specially for u
UB-02 Beauty Moon form (refresh)
First fire/fighting ultra beast confirmed. First of many to come clearly XD
”Ultra Beasts are anomalies coming from a alternate reality where people and Pokemon are the same beings. They will cause a lot of trouble in Alola. Special abilities are required to defeat them.”
OMG MY THEORY WAS SORT OF CORRECT
Too close to synchro. Shut it down.
No it isn’t because Synchro is literally mega evolution without stones. I dont get why people still think its this seperate new transformation
I’m meaning synchro in the manga. Fusing humans and Pokemon.
Well if they want to take a more mature direction with the series, it would fit imo.
Like many have said over the past two months, it’s a huge time waster to design a synchro for every Pokemon morphed with the trainer (especially if customization is involved). I don’t see it happening in a game except for these UB’s since they are specifically one person with one “pokemon’s” design.
Agreed. Please stay far far away from synchro.
The only reason its so close to “BURST” is the “Humans and pokemon are the same thing”, but there is lore in Gen 4 that says that once long ago humans and pokemon WERE one and the Same, And that basically humans and pokemon evolved in different ways, Its more Credible to think that Ultra Beasts are from a Dimension where this never became True. So Humans and Pokemon never drifted apart and never stopped being the Same.
“The name of the Pokémon Rockruff evolves into is Lugarugan and has a different appearance based on if it evolves in Day or in Night.” – Serebii
but it is in translation progress…
Serebii better be right because I want my sunmoon starters
Same i dont like forme changes unless its like Giratina or Hoopa by using a key item…
Looks like Ash Will be getting Rowlet afterall. And would later on get Litten as well, and the Water Type Captain Popplio.
There no doubt about it that the Pokemon Company had planned this through right when X and Y was just starting out. It won’t be right away of course, but I’m guessing that the series would be centered on Ash’s Litten, who would have a similar backstory as Ash’s Charmander and Ash’s Chimchar, and would later on evolve into it’s final evolution (based on the rough sketches with it’s final evolution).
I sense Diamond and Pearl remake on the horizon.
As for Rockruff’s evolution. Yes! We’ve finally have wolves/werewolves in Pokemon!
The Popplio belongs to Lana
And the Litten isn’t Ash’s either. He has Rowlet and Pikachu
”Hordes make a return and you will be able to catch them without first fainting the other 4”
”Zygarde has an important role in the main plot”
”Shauna, Clemont and Bonnie will make a return”
”There will be a 3rd legendary who represents the Earth, and its not Marshadow”
Someone drawn shauna pls
Where did you find this?
4chan
Spoilers: Zygarde is the 3rd legendary
i think the Aether Foundation is trying to create perfect beings with the qualities of Pokemon and Humans. i don’t think these are the only 3 and i think everyone except the “employees” will have one. maybe the conflict is that its not up to any one man to create beings and it becomes this whole “Pokemonized” story of “only God can create things”.
I feel like just because Team skull is a team of misfits and rejects that they don’t have complete antagonistic plans. I think with both teams its gonna be the whole we want to do some thing good and something bad but the Aether Foundations “something bad” is on a level that threatens humanity while team skull maybe ends up being good seeing as Guzma was a trial captain reject. maybe he realizes he once tried to be a good person and what the Aether is doing isn’t right.
Also with the whole people thinking Colress has some relevancy here, i don’t think is too far off the mark. If Colress isn’t a founder of the Aether foundation their work would be inspired by that of Colress. The Hiker in X/Y near the stones said that a guy named Colress told him that those stones emit some power. Maybe he created the Z ring sting as z moves happen when people and pokemon are in complete sync.
i know I’m describing Colress as just having the mind of a true scientist and the Aether as wanting to do bad things but that doesn’t mean that either Colress of the Aether cant alter their plans.
no one improbably gonna read this because I’m just babbling LOL oh well
Sooo…
If the starters are related to Rockruff, would that mean their evolutions of form and typing would depend on the day and night also?
Rowlet – (day) Grass/Flying (night) Grass/Ground
Litten – (day) Fire/Dark (night) Fire/Ghost
Popplio – (day) Water/Fairy (night) Water/Fighting
This! I think that we might have something here. They’re said to share a secret and then we all of a sudden get this? I think we may have starters with day and night form changes lol
If they had not announced the fact that Sun and Moon will take place 12 h apart, I would not have believed this theory. But I think this might actually be a thing now. If you play Moon, you will mostly see the night version of the starter and if you play Sun you will mostly see the day version. That would actually be pretty cool.
It would definitely make things more interesting. That way maybe we’ll get more variety as far as seeing what everyone uses in online battles lol
I love those evos.They are sleek.
They are split forms or simply changeable forms?
OOOOK!! Are people really going to tell me that the UB aren’t some of the characters we’ve already met? Can anyone really tell me with a straight face the UB-02 Beauty doesn’t look a hell of a lot like Lusamine? lol
That’s exactly what I was thinking!
I mean sure…..they could be some kind of science experiment and the use of human DNA is there, but I still think it’s a little too uncanny lol
That’s actually what everyone said already ? But you’re totally right!
When we got UB-01 a lot of people thought that it was simply that her dna was involved rather than her actually being a UB, but this is a bit perculiar if you ask me hahaha
Imo there will be no split evolution for the starters. The chinese leak said the starters will evolve into an archer, a wrestler and a mermaid and we have those. Have you noticed that all other leaks who talk about split evolution for the starters never describe the supposed other form, while a lot of leaks talked about Rockruff evolution to be a werewolf? A werewolf is a werewolf only during full moon, so it may implies a day form (and not a split evolution). I don’t think this is the secret the four share.
Then what is their shared secret? The only that makes Rockruff specialat this point is the forms for its evolution. If not split evolution forms then what? I really only makes sense. That and then there’s the unused typings that were found on the old iteration of the Japanese website for the starters. It just seems a bit too perfect to not fully match up. lol
Corocoro said they all have a secret, isn’t it strange that the magazine doesn’t even mention the starters in this issue and does not suggest there will be something about them on next issue? For what we know Popplio could only evolve at night and Rowlet only on day. So the secret is that the evolutions are time based, that’s all. Just saying of course, but you know we have the leaked evolutions since June, if those had othere forms some leaks would have suggest what those forms look like, not simply say that they exist just because it was obvious that Rockruff has more then one evolution.
I’m not saying that we can’t just have the ones we already know about, but it would be odd for all their secrets to be different in one way or another. I know it was just an example, but I don’t think they’d force the starters to evolve specifically at one time of the day. Anyway it’s possible that Corocoro just has the exclusive on the Rockruff evo and not on the starters. We are getting new info on Wednesday and I hardly believe that all they’re going to do is rehash what we got here. I could see them talking about the new UBs and then covering the starter evos (even if it’s just the mid forms for now) and saying that they’re evolution method is similar to Rockruff. Then we’d get a teaser for next month where they show the finals off or something.
This famous secret is something only corocoro has covered. GF has never spoken about any sort of secret. If someone had to point to the starters, then corocoro should have.
I think the secret is either something to do with z moves or its that rockruff is in a new manga and maybe the anime as well, and the starters are too. It’s a lame secret, but the fact that they are all mascots is something they have in common.
Yes, but if they don’t want to show off the final evolutions of the starters yet then it wouldn’t make sense to bring them up yet. Either way you can’t omit the possibility that the form differences could be the secret. I suppose we’ll just have to wait and find out lol
If that’s the secret, what’s the point to keep secret a secret that is no more a secret?
Corocoro: “Hey there, starters will have split evo too, wait two month to see that”. Nothing would have been spoiled.
Well they don’t need to come right out and say it. They could be more cryptic. Either way I don’t think the possibility is that far out there. We’ll just have to wait and see. Plus I think it’d be cool and something special. they almost never do anything super crazy with the starters and this could be great lol
If you know that’s the secret, what exactly make you think they are being cryptic?
What I mean is they could say something like “Rockruff’s evolution is different huh? Well guess what the starters evolve into!” or something like that. they don’t have to come right out and say “hey the starters have split evo forms too!” Either way like I said we won’t really know until we know. We don’t have to agree on this it’s just one possibility.
Rockruff doesn’t have a split evolution, only one that looks different during the day or night, it’s still the same Pokemon so 100% that’s what their secret is, it has to be
I think people have just been using the term ‘split evo” to describe this kind of thing. It’s really more of its evo having split forms, but it’s easier to say split evo lol
hey guys did anybody notice that ub-02 looks kind of familiar?
They ALL look familiar.
could this mean the characters we’ve met so far are aliens!?!
No
Phew TvT
My best guess is that the UBs are aliens from an alternate reality where people and Pokemon are the same thing.
Guys come on: it still isn’t certain if they are split evolutions or different forms. Serebii says the former, PJ the latter. I guess we’ll hear it in two days.
I’m thinking the anime’s style looks a lot like the Digimon movie. And I’m not saying that is a bad thing. I really love that flat, drowned out color style. I think it’s pretty cool looking.
I’m so thirsty for starter evolutions
cant even wait any longer 🙁
I’ve gone past thirst.
dehydration?
Yep. Nearing death. If I get them on or before November 18th, I’ll live.
Let it be remembered that I told everyone they wouldn’t reveal the starters.
I feel like I’m the only one who couldn’t care less at this point. I mean, the fun of the second forms is the hint toward the final form, but we know the final form, so it’s not a big concern for me.
hey guys did anybody notice that ub-02E remind you of someone?
Ok now you’re clearly trolling
No i was wondering what UB-02 Expansion remind me of?
I think he thought you were referring to yourself lol
I thought I had already seen this exact post from you. But I guess I was wrong. My B. All the UBs look like the 3, white, blonde hair, green eyes people from the trailers. Lilly, AF pres, and Skull Enforcer.
Wow this is Cool! 😀
Does expansion really resemble gladion? I don’t see but I also don’t have them near each other to compare.
Red and black motif. Rips on clothing show underneath. UB has muscles or what-have-you “ripping” out from underneath. And the fact that the boy looks like the two girl. Clearly it’s his UB AU.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eb3a455bf1ec14527c369e1817f4297f3851494853fc27aa9764b7c4fded21f0.jpg
Like I posted few minutes ago. ”Ultra Beasts are anomalies coming from an alternate reality where people and Pokemon are the same beings”
Also.. those spiky things on the shoulders?
You did see the exact same post haha
Oh my god
I know right
OMG
yes that was the first thing that came up when I saw it aswell. I was thinking of Kim possible but it was the little girl robot series xD
SHUTUP DSJKDSKJDSKJDSDNJDSNKJDSK I SCREAMED THE RESEMBLENCE IS TO MUCH
They look beautiful
Wow people work fast
Loving IT! XD
I actually really like this art lol
The actual design is pretty good and simple too.
please dont be a form change, just a sun/moon evo!
Does Ash’s Charizard come back?
NEEDED
Ok so if this 4chan leak is true, I think its pretty accurate to assume that Ultra Beasts can only be defeated with Z-moves.
Not sure how beauty and expansion are one and the same but okayyyyy I’m kinda over ultra beasts. Just give me Pokemon.
It might not be that they are EXACTLY one in the same. We only know that they are version exclusives. For all we know the story is different depending on which version you play and Sun involves Expansion more and Moon involves Beauty more.
So with this new info we still have questions. what is Rurarugan’s typing? Does it have two different typings depending on what form it is currently in? What are the connections between the 3 blondes (Lillie, etc) and has Ash’s mom finally realized that Ash isn’t cut out for being a trainer and has finally forced him to go to school?!?!?!! I’d say that last one is the biggest question lol
1) Probably Rock/ Something, for Night I’d assume Rock/Dark or Rock/Fairy though don’t qoute me on that.
2) They are very similair to the Ultra Beasts aren’t they?
3) I’d say school as in the trial captains are more like teacher with lessons and if he passes them all then he passes or something idk
Yeah you’re probably right about the trial captains. It’s probably more of a turn of phrase rather than him actually going to school hahaha
Pretty sure the reason he goes there too is that Oak sends him to meet oak.
Also from the Poster, I get the feeling Mallow will be one of his travelling companions, that he’ll have a Rowlett, and also, Possibly, Lillie will travel with him.
I could see that. Also yeah Mallow is most likely his travel companion this time around. We even see her in the leaked starter evo pics lol
as well as Ash’s Litten’s final evolution, indicating that Ash would later on get Litten.
”An egg of Chansey will always hatch into Happini. Incense is no longer required” maybe of interest to Lucky Egg breeders (if that is even a thing?)
Wait is this an official thing or is it just from that one rumor that said the baby Pokemon don’t need incense anymore? Because if it’s real then we may have more proof towards one of the rumors as being a real leak lol
Its from 4chan but in their defense a lot of their leaks in recent months have turned out legit so I wont disregard this yet.
That’s kind of annoying. Then you will def have to evolve with love…
OMG!! This theory is officially debunked (rf)!!
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Hmm, Rurarugan, or at least it’s head and part of it’s body, remind me of Type:Null, and as Corocoro mentioned a few months ago, Rockruff shares something with the starters, could this be that their Final evolution depends on Night or Day? That corresponds with one of the leaks, where starters “May” have more than one final evolution, which is now possible due to these 2 pokemon being the same yet different, meaning they don’t take up an extra Pokedex spot, and if so,do the ones we haven’t seen form the rest of Type Null? Apart from the Helmet and the Axe part, which is probably part of the helmet.
Ugh Type: Null is a chimera and its so obviously the result of DNA merging of Rockruff and starter evos
Not obvious, until we’ve seen the probable other forms of the Starter evolutions, we can’t be sure it is them, just that it probably is, all we know that’s confirmed is that it’s several different pokemon combined no need to “Ugh” like you’re fed up, it’s just an idea.
If I’m honest it also reminds me of Absol.
Bird like legs, aquatic tail, feline head, canine base plus Arceus symbol as mouthpiece. It doesn’t get more obvious than that.
I know, but until it’s confirmed, or at least more evidence, we can’t be 100% sure is all I’m saying, you don’t have to be so annoyed about it
Fair enough. But also, Ultra Beasts are called Ultra Chimeras in the French trailer
That is very interesting, and seems to connect Aether with Type Null, which makes sense, as I doubt Skull have the tech to do that, and Gladions resemblance to Lusamine and Lillie, who themselves seem to share a resemblance with the Ultrabeasts, Lillie and UB-01 could have been a coincidence at first, but UB-02 is reminisant of Lusamine, at least the Beauty form, so I wouldn’t be surprised if UB-03 looked like Gladion or one of the other Aether members
Team Skull represent the Alchemical Skull. They are evil, but Aether are the true masterminds
And clearly an attempt to re-create Arceus utilizing alchemy-esque principals.
Yes precisely. Arceus=Azoth
I was thinking Popplio, Rowlet, Litten, and Rockruff = Water, Air, Fire, and Earth respectively. And so Arceus, and by default Type: Null as well, = Aether. Hence… Aether Foundation.
Yes Popplio is salt, Litten is sulfur, Rowlet is mercury and Rockruff is lead. The 4 basic elements to create The Philosopher’s Stone and in turn Azoth, or Arceus.
These are two different theories we have. I don’t buy into that whole reboot business. I’m connecting the clear themes of alchemy with the potential for Aether Foundation and Type: Null to be connected to Arceus. And I think the fact the Ohmori incorporated Deoxys into the post-game for ORAS adds hope that he might include Arceus into the story here.
I think the reboot theory is now debunked with the poster reveal.
The only thing I’m not buying is the Whole arceus thing, I do understand why people are saying arceus, at the same time, i’ve got a feeling it’s a 7th Gen Legend/Mythical, could perhaps be the Island Guardians, or the Boxart Legends, or the so called Marshadow, but I’m not so sure it’s Arceus, if it is though, Gen 4 confirmed (That last part is a joke I know how people can be on this thread)
Trust me. I agree it’s rather bold of me to be predicting the involvement of Arceus. But I think at this point, if Ohmori has taught us anything, expect the unexpected. And including an event legendary from a different generation into the story isn’t unexpected… Well then I dunno what is. Haha
Gen 4 remake hinted
”It is used in a certain mission, to rival the power of a Pokemon often spoken about in mythology” now, the answer here lies in mythology.
Well, it could hint at it being a Mythical Pokemon, which I admit Arceus is one of, but at the same time, this Gen is bound to have at least 2 more, (3 including Magearna), and Marshadow is now seemingly a Mythical Pokemon after all.
However, it could also mean Main Legends, as in Gen 4 the Creation Trio were Myths, which again, I admit, would involve Arceus.
Well technically the Rockruff evo is simply forms rather than a complete split. Sounds like it’ll look one way at night and the other during the day regardless of when you evolve it, but we still don’t have all the info yet so it’s up in the air. Either way I’m not sure I see the connection you’re seeing with Rurarugan other than the fact that it’s one form is on all fours lol I do think that Ruraugan having a form depending on the time of day points towards the starters having a similar thing happening. It would certainly explain the whole single space in the Pokedex bit and why we had extra typings on the Japanese website at one point. I hope we get more news on them soon , even if we don’t actually see the evos yet lol
Also, love the new page design! Rockruff is such a cutie!
So does Rockruff’s evolution change form when it’s day or night, or is it like Umbreon and Espeon and if it evolves in the day it will always be the midday form and if to evolves at night it will always be the midnight form?
Presently we don’t know, it could be either or, or maybe even it takes a different form depending on the version, but that seems unlikely
So, Rockruff’s evolved forms are not a split-evolution, per se.
Rockruff is basically reminiscent of a generation 2 Eevee with Lugarugan being both Espeon and Umbreon if they were one Pokémon instead of two.
In other words, Lugarugan’s appearance is based on the time of day Rockruff evolves. This is not exactly a split evolution. It’s more of akin to Unfezant’s appearance being dependent on Tranquill’s gender.
Hope this lil’ explanation made it easier to clarify.
It’s an explanation that is completely unfounded. We have no idea what it’s gonna be. Serebii is stating that there’s a midday form. PJ has a different idea. Until there’s a trailer, we don’t know for sure!
Yeah, it’s really not clear how it works and Corocoro is very vague. It could be interpreted either way: a) it evolves into one or the other dependent on time of day or b) it evolves into either, but can change form.
The description doesn’t explicitly state either.
Guess the trailer will have to tell us.
I’d say it’s more like Meowstic than Unfezant.
Meowstic looks different depending on Gender , but each has different stats, moveset and ability.
This is essentially that just with time of day instead, and possibly Type.
I waited for Rockruff’s Evo, and I really like the Sun version! It’s got the characteristics of a wolf, which is cool because we never really had an actual wolf Pokemon. The Night is ok, I’ve never really been a fan of a werewolf.
I love Rockruffs evo! Especially the name origin. Finally we get a wolf pokemon. It would be cooler though if it’s not a form change based on the time of day, but when during the day you evolve it is which form it takes.
The Ultra Beasts are really freaky..I wonder what the point of having version exclusives is. Maybe you can catch them then. Also, I thought the beauty one was Wimpod’s evo at first lol
So I was looking at the scan more closely. I can’t wait to see the fight between Tapu Koko and UB-02 Expansion!! You can see Expansion rushing towards it in the bottom of the one scan! Looks pretty epic! lol
Yesss I’m LOVING these ultra beast. Especially KWEEN beauty. Expansion is serving Larry the lobster who got sun burn
LOL, he does kinda remind me of Larry the Lobster
It just occurred to me about the japanese names of certain characters in Diamond and Pearl, and how for a ironic fun fact, it’s somehow related to UK history.
Cynthia = White (White Rose) = Yorkists
Cyrus = Red (Red Rose) = Lancastrians
Lancastrians and Yorkists fought each other in the ”War of the Roses”
So, I went ahead and grabbed a photo of Lusamine, and a picture of UB-02 Beauty… put the symbol behind Lusamine and flipped her… Is Lusamine UB-02 Beuaty?
hey I got a question: what would be the perfect English name for Lugarugan?
Lunawolf
I was thinking of the more lines of Wererock is the combination of werewolf and Rock.
ah hell no.
okay how about Rockwolf.
Too simple men! U can do better!
well back to the drawing board.
Honestly I think it’s perfect like that. Lupe + Rugaru
Maybe Lupagar?
Or maybe just Lugaru
somebody called 4 garurumon?
Rockgaru
Hmm Good Idea. 🙂
but they probably have different names right? or? Else there will be something with moon/luna in it I guess
So, I went ahead and grabbed a photo of Lusamine, and a picture of UB-02 Beauty… put the symbol behind Lusamine and flipped her… Is Lusamine UB-02 Beauty?
Lots of people believe there is some kind of connection, also expansion kinda reminds us of Gladion
hmmm… for some reason I was thinking Faba… the big old glasses shape on his chest…
The way UB-01 looks like Lillie fused with a jellyfish, UB-02 definitely looks like a roach to me. Yeah, I see some Lusamine aspects, but that roach hair and antennae, though.
YES PEOPLE WE KNOW UB-02 AND LUSAMINE LOOK ALIKE!
Omygod every other comment is a post about this.
^this x100000
did someone translate what the scans say about Pokemon GO and Alola forms?
Just that the Pokemon you find in GO can have different appearances in SM 🙂
The hell… (rf)
Wtf is this?
As Far as I can tell, Pokemon is now a ‘slice of life’ anime with no real plot.
This is really dissapointing coming from XY
If this is true I am not even going to bother watching the first episode
Like me and @ben_rhodes:disqus were saying further down it probably is more like word play rather than him actually going to school. The trial captains aren’t the typical gym leaders so it’s likely they will be in the roll of “teacher” rather than just a wall for him to break down lol
They use the word “School” and “Graduate”
No mention of trial captains,island trials, at all.
But all of the trial captains are in the poster
They don’t need to. It’s already looking like the trial captains are more so guides rather than just some people you have to beat. So it stands to reason they’re more like teachers than anything else. You know the whole you’re on a journey now learn some shit about life kind of stuff lol
You’re reaching. The people calling school and graduate what it is are using occham’s razor if I’m remembering the term correctly. You’re assuming a different definition than the widely used definition of school and graduate. You’re only proof is the past anime’ plot, which sun and moon (game wise) seem to be throwing tradition out the window.
Not meaning to attack you, just discussing!
No you’re good. It really is up to interpretation at this point. In any case I’d say my reading of it makes more sense than him actually going to school. Seeing as there isn’t a school kind of motif in the games that we know of (even in Sun and Moon). it makes more sense that the words “school” and “graduate” not be taken literally. lol
What about trying to be a Pokemon master? Isn’t there going to be an elite 4/ champion equivalent in Alola ? It would feel incomplete otherwise. There needs to be a plot or else he won’t be able to progress !
Slice of life series coming soon!
So I haven’t watched the newer anime, but my biggest take away from the anime page is that Ash will get the Rotomdex. I was wondering if they were just gonna give him a regular pokedex for the show. I think that’s going to add a really cool dynamic to the show. It’ll be his first electric that’s not pikachu, although I doubt he’ll ever battle with it.
Things I take away from it are, apart from Rotomdex:
1) Mallow will travel with him
2) He will have a Rowlett
3) Lillie might also travel with him
Those are the 3 things I’m certain about, the rest of these are just ideas:
4) Like Gen 1,2 and 5 he’ll have all 3 starters,
5) He’s sent by Oak to meet Oak, the 2 Oak have the greatest scene in the history of the anime
6) Team rocket have a Bewear?
As would then have Litten later on in which would then evolve.
I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t have a male companion. I feel Lillie could have a similar appearance rate as Bianca did in BW, where they saw her a lot but didn’t fully travel with her. And then when the actual plot picks up she’ll be around more.
I think they may get Bewear as well, although this one looks massively out of scale.
I’d have said a Male one too, though theres no hint in the Poster, if there was a male one he’d be on the poster right? unless, Is it possible Kukui is? I wouldn’t say that’s impossible.
That would be really weird honestly, but it did cross my mind
I think the Bewear is just some kind of blimp they’ll be using. I mean, why else would it be flying? They’re probably gonna change up their travel vehicle like that time they had a magikarp sub.
I hate it when he has all three
Hoenn did it best where each companion had one.
And Kalos.
Although something is telling me that they’re going to end up flowing down the same stream as Sinnoh.
Oh yeah, it is like that in Kalos…I think there’s going to be a lot of orange islands similarities though (obvi)
Yeah… And i loved Pokemon contest episodes, but that was perfected in Sinnoh. I like it when all three characters have a focus. In Sinnoh dawn had as many Pokemon as Ash…
I love the contest episodes as well 🙂
The Performer episodes are very good as well
Right?! Contests are so much harder than gym battles in the anime… Any time Ash did something strategic and amazing in gym battles it’s basically what you always have to do in contests.
They really need to overhaul contests in the games. Make them more fun and diverse.
I feel like Sinnoh did it best, since The starter on the male companion is usually wasted
At least brocks did evolve once
And he never did anything with it again.
And Chespin is just comic relief.
True life…they just need a good male companion (I have no opinion on Clemont). I was never a fan of Brock, I only like him for nostalgic purposes.
Clemont is very good….when he’s allowed to do things, like the recent flare arc and his gym battle with ash
Brock was boring
Cilan just sucked
Cilan is forgettable AF lmao. Stupid cilantro.
Kalos has that too
Ash got Froakie
Serena got Fennekin
Clemont got Chespin
yeah each time he’s had 3 it’s always been 1 over the others, plus they don’t tend to all evolve, everytime it’s being just 1, or 2 in Sinnohs case, they’ve fully evolved
There’s no travelling.
Ash is in school.
Everything is shit
That’s. What I got
You just made me realize something… Where’s Hau and Hala?
Perhaps we’ll find out on Thursday
my thing is, if this Chinese leaker had VOLCANIC tea about ultra beast. why didn’t he spill it instead of splashing lemon with water about shit we don’t care about. https://38.media.tumblr.com/ca9945fb12ba9a8c7656e752bc8e63c0/tumblr_ni5d8onHdT1qdt8lgo4_250.gif (rf)
Lmfao yes gurl. I want answers. I trust no leaks any way
the blue words matches the blue of Pokemon Moon?
The orange words matches the orange/red of pokemon Sun?
Maybe we will have our very first version exclusive? (with the ultra beast yes yes)
I thought it was dependant on the time of day Rockruff evolves?
I believe it says that the UBs are version exclusives up top.
nothing is for sure at this point.. they were a bit vague
Oh, I was just basing it off Pj’s translations on the article.
クール = Kuuru = Cool
ホット = Hatto = Hot
I like both of rockruff’s evolutions but the werewolf one looks like it has noodle arms….
I actually really love both. GAMEFREAK almost always gets fox/ dog Pokemon right with the exception of delphox
Fuck off.
Lmfao
They like to do that a lot. Heatmor is a good example too
Hmm, I’m kinda wishing that they never revealed the ultra beasts. With the internet as it is, we’ll probably know all about them before release;,not to mention, there’s already PLENTY that has been shown that will sell the game. They should just focus on promoting mechanics and Pokemon, preferably like Talonflame with that last part, wherein they skip mid forms and leave those a surprise as well.
All you’d really need to do to keep interest is release game play footage that shows the mechanics and pokemon in action. Save the plot for when we get the game. I really want to avoid an ORAS situation where, despite the demo getting mined, GF basically revealed everything that was in those games anyway, leaving no surprises.
Then don’t visit Pokémon sites and unlike/unfollow Pokémon stuff on social media. Not all of us need to be surprised in order to enjoy playing the games. I like knowing as much as possible because I plan my teams before the playthrough.
That’s different from revealing the plot though. I too like to know what’s at my disposal for making a team, but that doesn’t mean I want to just sit in the dark and wait for 60+ days with no info or content to look at. Many other games do this, show off random game play that doesn’t involve the plot just so players have something to look at while they wait.
I agree. You think 20 years into the game they realized they would sell the game on name alone. Maybe they want to top into in the nostalgic fanbase who grew up with gen one for sales
Real fans want real new game info on a regular basis. If you don’t have a degree in marketing then fuck off. And even if you do, still fuck off. People LIKE learning things about the product they’re going to buy
We still don’t really know how the hell they fit into the story though with the title legendaries. You might want to cut yourself off from info though until November. Who knows what else they’ll reveal
That’s easier said than done and large speculations can easily be made just by looking at them. People are already saying the new feminine one looks like the leader of Aether, while before that, the UB-01 was instantly compared to be Lillie. I dunno, that kinda stuff shouldn’t be shown pre release in my opinion. I’d rather they stop being so vague about stuff like pokeride, island challenge and non legendary pokemon
While they may resemble them though, that doesn’t really tell us anything about the characters themselves. I would like more info on past stuff though like pokeride, but maybe it’s best if they stay vague and just reveal pokemon from here on out
I mean, personally, I’d prefer they pick the non plot stuff and completely explore it rather than picking everything in the game and only briefly mentioning it. Distract us with the new advancements of the series and explain how they work rather than being like, “so here’s this huge thing…see you in november!”
I dunno, seeing UB-01 was fine enough I guess, but now they’re showing more, which is just gonna give everything away. It’s not like a movie where the plot is the only thing to talk about. Addition trailers that give every thing away can simply be avoided since you’re only here just to see the story play out. With a game, you want to know more about everything else too and I think the plot should be kept quieter since we’ll be spending more time utilizing the mechanics and pokemon rather than dealing with the story.
Everybody’s a critic. Just shut up and be happy
You know what, you’re right. I have no idea why I even continue to bother coming to discuss thing with other human beings. I should just sit quietly in a corner and accept everything that is presented to me as is.
Thanks for the glorious new insight.
Do we know for sure rock ruff night is dark Type? Doesn’t look like a rock type to me
Wait, are you asking if it’s a rock or a dark type? I can’t imagine it NOT being a dark type.
The 2 Possible types to me are:
Rock/Dark
or
Rock/Fairy.
It’s most likely Rock/Dark.
I don’t see it losing Rock though.
The bigger question is does the Day version have a secondary type?
I think the day version will be pure rock. However, if it’s just a form change, both will probably be rock/dark unless it gains a secondary typing at night? Also, if it’s a form change based on day time, how is that going to work in online battles?
I’d assume that would be based on the game version and the clock, for example if you do an online battle at night and use Shaymin, you can’t use Sky Form.
That’s a good point. Might be kind of annoying if you want to use the day form at night though. I’m hoping they’re split evos
I’d assume it is a Split evo, but the 2 Pokemon share the same dex space, and it looks like one or the other depending on the time of day.
An easier example is, Meowstic. It looks different depending on it’s Gender, but goes further than that, as they have different abilities and movesets, despite being the same Pokemon. This is basically an evolution of that idea, just instead of gender it’s Time of day, and Type is different too, but they’re still the same Pokemon.
I love it when I get Eevee’s for Wurmples in Wonder Trade. Free Eeveelutions 😀
i’d skin them and stuff all their fur into pillow cases made out of their own hide
I wonder what we will see on Wednesday the 14th
Probably all this plus maybe another mon
Pikipek and Wimpod evos please! Also official art for cutiefly evo :3
Yes please 🙂
Or, you know, some more dark types. This Rockruff evo seems to potentially be the first *new* one
Ice!!!!
If we to assume that X and Y was released in 2013, and OR and AS in 2014.
Then perhaps the remake for Diamond and Pearl (PureDiamond and DazzlingPearl) would be out on the NX on November 2017
I’d say 3DS.
Apart from Crystal, which Gold and Silver were marketed as GBC tbh despite being GB games,they tend to do full Gen on one console, even if theres already a new one out, Like B2/W2.
Perhaps knowing Game Freak, they would might do a change in system this time around.
After all, you can’t have two versions of Diamond and Pearl on the same console now, especially when the 3DS is backwards compatable with DS games. I mean just look at what happened with Twilight Princess for the Wii U. Yes it was a port from the Gamecube, but it’s Wii version can certainly play on the Wii U.
Just seeing this as a cheap money grab.
The reason is Compatibility reasons however, though they can find a way past that.
and anyway, unlike Gold and Silver in which can be plaued on normal Gameboy, Crystal was made specifically for the Gameboy Color system.
It was, while Gold and Silver were GBC enhanced, the difference being they could still trade with Crystal.
Which is why I said they can find a way around it if they try, for example, I don’t expect Pokemon Bank to be exclusive to the 3DS in the future. That could be the way forward.
it would be easy to see pokemon in Sun and Moon on the 3DS trading with the remake of Diamond and Pearl on NX. Even more so when using Bank.
There will be a way, there will be a way.
Theres always a ay, even if we have to pay for it
well that’s the entire point for both Pokemon and Nintendo at the end of it all…
https://youtu.be/rrYnZ7ZxRe4
Idk, I’m thinking D/P will be more 2018.
Unless they’re part of a new gen I don’t think they’d split a gen up by console. If gen 7 has more than one set of games they’ll likely be on the 3DS. that is if they do things the way they have in the past.Supposedly there’s a rumor that a Pokemon game made by GF is in the works for the NX. I don’t think they’d do a remake for their first game on a new system though.
As much as I love me some SINNOH CONFIRMED, I think it’s too soon to make those games. If they did, then at that rate gen 5 would be remade along with gen 8 and you can’t just remake gen 5 as is without consideration towards BW2. Then we’d have gen 6 remakes during gen 9…and then a gen 7 remake during gen 10.
You know what, that’s fine. The remakes are always better anyway. From now on I’ll just wait for those to come out and skip the actual games, haha .
a remake to a pokemon game is not by calculations in halfs, it’s more of their 10 year anniversaries. if it reaches 20 like red, blue and yellow, it’ll be on the eshop
I had several ideas for how they’d handle Gen 5 remakes.
1) 2 sets of Remakes (Which is the best option, and can spread it out)
2) 1 Set of remakes with both stories
3) The OR/AS treatment, the first Gets a remake with a shorter story based in B2/W2 (With the PWT hopefully intact)
Theory for the ultra beast. I think they might come from a parallel dimension(aka dim-B) and in their dimension each one has a counterpart for every person in our dimension (dim-A). So that’s why they represent core aspects of their counterparts for example UB-01 is lillie UB-02 will either be Gladion or Lusamine counterparts.
UB-02 Beauty resembles Lusamine, it has her stance and big hair like she does. I feel Expansion on the other hand maybe not Gladion but I’m guessing its going to be a character we’ve not seen yet.
I looks nothing like him aside from the color scheme
I could see the tear in his shirt being like a hint at his body not actually being real and the muscular UB body trying to rip it’s way out lol
He’s got anchor arms underneath that outfit
Hahahaha that he does lol
I had a feeling that they might represent key aspects of a person like his rage or pursuit of power.
Inb4 UB01 Is lillie and is Trying to help us to stop UB02 and the others from destroying our world.
DEFINITELY see that being a thing. Supposedly the UBs are a threat to the world. I could see Lusamine (another UB) trying to throw the blame onto Lillie(a UB) to hide the fact that she is in fact a UB that’s trying to hurt people lol
Those other 2 really look like a threat..
I’m conflicted I can’t tell if Popplio will be Ash’s or Lana’s?
I think Mallow will be the only captain joining him on the journey. I imagine he’ll get one other person, but I can’t see Lana being there along with another captain.
I feel that Lilie will join him yet will he get Popplio hopefully!
Though he has travelled with 2 Gym leaders in the past, twice, so it’s not out of the question he’ll be with 2 Trial captains
Or… All three?!
True, but seeing as they’re both second island captains I can’t see him traveling alone for the entire time before he reaches their areas. We also see Lillie in the background so it’s possible she joins him too.
I do believe it’s Mallow, but either Mallow and Lillie, or Mallow and Kukui, as there doesn’t seem to be a Male companion
Yeah that’s the one other reason I don’t think Lana would be with him. He already seems to have Mallow and that’s his female companion so now he needs a male.I hope it’s not Sophocles…..I’m not a fan of his design and I don’t want Ash to have ANOTHER electric type leader on his team. Not that the typing is really the problem. I just see it being very similar to Clemont and in that case they might as well bring him back for the new adventure. In fact I really want Clemont and Bonnie to go with him! lol
Speaking of Sophacles I never noticed him until just now as part of the main Poster, and he is the only one of the Trial captains we know who we haven’t been able to place yet, though I believe he’s in the observetory on the 3rd island, it could very well be him actually, I mean, Ash has already been with a Grass Specialist and yet here’s Mallow, and a cook as well no less
Well yeah…I suppose my real problem is that if they do another inventor companion it’ll end up being almost the same as Clemont. And at that point you might as well have just brought him back to continue to travel with Ash. Plus I really like Clemont so them replacing him with Sophocles would be a bummer to me lol
Like how people felt when Cilan replaced Brock
Yup exactly. Only I knew I liked Cilan immediately lol
Oh I did too, in fact I named my page after him, ish “https://www.facebook.com/EvilCilan/”,
What if the trial captains are also in school learning how to do their jobs!
One question: Will we only have one Trial Captain for Island or will we get more?
Based on what we’ve seen there will be more than one per island. All of the ones we’ve seen have been shown more or less on the island to the right of Melemele which is known as Akala. Sophocles is the only one we don’t have solid evidence as far as where he is, but many believe he is located at the light house on Akala. Plus it’s been implied that there are more captains than we’ve met so that would imply that there’s have to be more than one per island.
But still, where did you find this info?
I believe the part about there being more captains was on the Japanese website
I think we’ll get more, considering most of the ones shown are all on one island. We just won’t see them until we get the game maybe.
I expect we get 8… since you know…
If we get the Typed Z Stones from them, then I expect 16 tbh
they’re already at work on it.
16 trail captains most likely
Interesting Pokémon for the characters:
– Mallow: Bonsweet
– Lana: Popplio
– Sophocles: Togedemaru
– Lillie: Alolan Vulpix
– Prof Kukui: Rockruff (?)
I wonder if the games will follow the anime, but I doubt it. Lillie probably has no Pokémon anyway.
Ash: Rowlett
And yeah, Kukui having Rockruff matches what we know of the games, where he has one in his lab
Litten will come later and would later evolve. It’ll be a similar background to Ash’s Charizard and Infernape
i actually had a theory
instead of an abusive trainer, what about a oblivious negligent trainer,
i see a prissy young trainer wanting a litten as a status thing but the litten is too hot blooded and rough to handle so she barely lets it do anything and stops it from battling and have it do nothing all day, then Ash tries to convince that some Pokemon LIKE to battle yadda yadda pawns it off on him
Also an interesting character development is that Litten evolves into its final form and is a total thug picking fights with everyone and using extremely cheap tactics
Another Charizard?
Why not, it has been 20 years since then.
And with them recycling plots from older episodes that newer kids have never seen, how could they ever refuse. Just hope how Ash gets Rowlet is not recycled from how he got Bulbasaur, which was recycled into how he got Turtwig. That was just lazy.
Charizard was disobedient
Heatigre in a sense compulsively picks fights with every pokemon which is bad, and to make matters worse it uses very cheap moves like spitting embers in their face and just being a total menace
So what we have here…
Charizard: Disobediant to Ash
Infernate: Uncontrollable with Blaze
Litten’s final evolution: Bully to Ash’s Pokemon
well Infernape only used blazse in times of great pain and suffering
but essentially yes Heatigre would bully the other pokemon
Or going by the image ash could get a final evolution and skip the first two lol
Does anybody if there are exp multiplier codes for Pokemon Platinum?
I love this corocoro just because of the anime picture showing Komala chilling up on the roof with no care in the world
http://i.imgur.com/IuNhqnF.png
GUYS! Ash companions will be Mallow and Rotom Dex lol its makes sense now.
And Brock obviously
Also May and Max will come back, Along with Misty and somewhat Iris will swoop in and die.
Iris: Hey wait up…I wanna join the cool ki..
*Gets run over by Mudsdale stampede*
I just realize how many of ash companions names started with a M
What about Dawn?
Dawn is too busy being gen 4 remakes
Eww…we’re talking about the cool kids here
At least she’s better than dawn, Iris is a cool less annoying version of misty, who was just hateful to ash
Are you kidding, Iris was the MOST annoying character in the history of Pokemon. 😛
All the other travel companions that Ash has had, were a God send compared to her annoying ass. I hated her the first time I ever saw her even. The only time I even remotely liked her was in Black and White 2.
Whats a good nickname for Chimchar?
Spanky
Chimchar
Charchim
Inferno
Nicknames are a horrible thing with pokemon.. Hideous
To me it’s like naming an animal, you wouldn’t name a Dog “Dog”.
The only ones I don’t name are Legendaries.
that they are especially when the stupids name them after anime and memes
Nah…not naming them just feels so impersonal, like you’re not even befriending them.
Well.. Do you change ur friends name than? I’m not 😉 I respect them enough to let them keep their OG name.
Maybe I would shorten their name, but not change it completely
I mean if pokemon were real I may not nickname them, other than yeah having shortened version of their name, but in the games it really bothers me if I don’t name them. It helps me appreciate them more if I can connect to them on a different level.
Everybody his/her own, right 😛
-Titan
-Boots
-Tartarus
-Rascus
UB-02 Expasion.. Terraformar’s cockroach.
that pesky mosquito.
It also has a weird Dragon Ball’s Cell look to it.. It doesn’t click in my brain that this is Pokémon yet.
so like since Lusamine looks like ub-02 to me would the expansion hint at her true form(state of mind) of pure EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzJvFniCYAA_MdQ.jpg
demonic possession…
EVERY VILLAIN IS LEMONS
I’m still not sure they’re technically the same. Maybe in code names for sure, but I could see the exclusiveness of them be more story wise than them actually being the same thing. They might fulfill the same role in the games more or less, but ultimately are different in the end.
Ok so something occurred to me only after I jumped into the shower and started doing my shower thinking lol The announcement on Wednesday is the 14th right? Even in Japan it’ll be the 14th which means that no matter what the announcement will be before CoroCoro officially gets released. I highly doubt they’d release a trailer showing off the Pokemon from CoroCoro BEFORE the magazine comes out.. It would basically make them being in CoroCoro meaningless and hurt whatever deal TPC has with CoroCoro for exclusive news. So that means whatever we get on Wednesday will be brand new! We likely won’t see and official trailer of Rockruffs evo or the UB until later in the month or super early next month.
Well each coro coro is a month ahead anyway, dunno why magazines do that but oh well, so seen it’s it’s technically octobers, and it’s there first, you could very well be right.
Magazines do that all the time. It has no baring on the news that’s in it. The news we get in this issue is meant for this month. Just because it’s the October issue doesn’t mean it’s suppose to be news for next month. CoroCoro just seems to have some exclusive Pokemon that take a little longer to get an official reveal. Sandygast and Palosand were shown in August CoroCoro and didn’t get an immediate trailer until later in the month.
well Corocoro in august came out 8/9 and then a trailer came out 8/11. so idk
No……the magazine leaked on the 9th and the it actually came out on the 12th. The trailer coming out on the 11th was simply due to time zones. It was already the 12th in Japan by that point.
yea thats true, but still you never know anymore lol, gamefreak throws curve balls they could only reveal one of the rockruff forms and be like THATS IT. but corocoro shows theres indeed a second
Well the point is CoroCoro has been having exclusive every month this time around. Examples being Rockruff/Komala,Bewera/Mimikyu,Sandygast/Palosand/Stufful. All of which didn’t get a trailer immediately. I’d be surprised if they intentionally screwed CoroCoro over. The point of the exclusives is to drive CoroCoro sales.
that is also true.i hope the news is starter evos
That’s what I’m thinking. CoroCoro gets Rockruff and the trailer they give us shows the starters. That way they cover both sides of whatever the possible “secret” between them is without taking away exclusives. Two side of the same coin so to speak lol
Is that a fucking mosquito
Also ROCKRUFFS EVO IS EXACTLY WHAT I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL MY LIFE OMG I LOVE IT
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My idea for Ash’s team, I dont count Rotomdex btw.
Pikachu
Rowlet
Wimpod
Komala
Fomantis
Salandit
Thoughts?
Pikachu
Pikepek
Rowlet
Litten
Rockruff
Crabrawler
Mallow
Bounsweet
Lurantis
Ugh Pikipek? 2 flying types bruh..
And Kukui has a Rockruff
he’s a Proffessor he could have one if he wants
Have to admit I would love it if Ash gets a Rockruff. He needs more bulky Pokemon imo. Most of his pets are speed-reliant and less focused on brute strenght. He needs a blend imo
well that’s ash’s type
often focusing on speed and defensive offense
He has 3 flyings at the moment, so don’t rule out type clashes
dude don’t even start everyone knows Ash ALWAYS has the native bird no exceptions
but i feel Ash will stumble onto a pugnacious Crabrawler that truly loves to battle
Yeah thats a fair point. Guess Pikipek is inevitable
If both his Rowlet and Pikipek fully evolve, I guess I’d be okay with it
Is an Alolan sandshrew not really a snowshrew?
I prefer Shardshrew, but yeah you’d think
Come on…let Serena join Ash on his next quest!
of going to school?
Bitch needs to either put out or get out
Mallow or Lillie is likely replacing her.
Ash currently has two female traveling companions. So what is wrong with having both Serena and Mallow join him. Besides she has a cute voice.
No, amourshipping or basically romance should stay away from children shows, wrong place and wrong time. If they would reboot the series into a more mature one focused on young adults audience, then yes a Serena character would be welcomed.
So what? They are childhood friends! You’re such a heartbreaker…
You even a pokemon fan…?
Because Pokemon is about romance? Got it.
You never saw the film Diance and th Cocoon of Destruction…
Yes I did
The whole film and scenes during the credits?
That doesn’t mean the whole anime series should revolve around a possible romance between Ash and Serena. Its still a children show, they don’t understand the concept of love yet.
It’s just that Serena’s my favorite female traveling companion.
I’m getting really sick of people calling Pokemon and some other animes “children’s shows” They are NOT children’s shows. And as such it would be perfectly acceptable for there to be a romance. Or have you forgotten about that dork Brock. Who was ALWAYS drooling over “Pretty girls/women” It is actually a very mature show, its the American translators that have turned it into a “child’s show” as you put it, try watching the original Japanese anime’s, and reading the original Manga’s. There is blood, gut’s, gore, and foul language in the original. So yeah NOT A KID’S SHOW!
And another thing, not having any form of romance at all would be stupid, that would be like telling your child that they aren’t allowed to have a crush on someone, because there just kids. 🙁 Sorry but even when I was in Kindergarten I had crushes on a few boys that I knew. And some of them were like three grades ahead of me for Pete’s sake.
Can I just say that I love Rockruff’s evolutions and the Ultra Beasts? I guess the Chinese Leaker was right about Rockruff having an evolution based on a werewolf. It’s design is perfect! I could see Rock/Normal and Rock/Dark being the types. The Ultra Beast are just killers! I love the way they look and how varied they are from regular Pokemon. UB-02 Expansion has to be my favorite, even though I’m planning on getting Moon. I cannot wait to see Type: Null’s secrets. Also, does that mean the starters will be getting Night & Day based evolutions as well? Lastly, the anime looks awesome. Ash is finally going back to school, so this will interesting. I’m assuming his starter will be Rowlet!
The UB are extremely weird. They’re definitely nothing from the Pokémon world. But ROCKRUFFS EVOS
Ash going to school??
Yea. Ash is going to school and he plans on graduating while travelling around Alola.
They’re really taking risks this time. So many new things and concepts that It doesn’t even look like pokemon anymore. I’m really loving this.
If this had came as Gen 6 I don’t think it would have felt as different as it is, but because it’s coming after what was a pretty barren Gen, it feels like theres a lot new
Those look like they belong on Yugioh cards. . .
MAYBE ULTRADBEASTS COME FROM THE YUGIOH DIMENSION
This has all just been leading up to one very weird cross over promotion hahahaha
A 4chan leaks says they are from an alternate reality where people and Pokemon are the same beings.
To be honest that thought makes me want to throw up
Lol I get that. But it would explain why the UBs we’ve seen so far look so similar to the new characters introduced (Lillie, Lusamine and Gladion)
Oh my God they’re fused with cockroaches
So i’m going with Day form Wolfrock
Wolfe Form you mean 😉
i don’t care I NEED MORE INFO I NEED BRAND NEW POKEMON I’M SEVERELY STARVED
and when i say new
I MEAN NEW POKEMON
not Alolan forms
not evolutions
NEW
ENN-EE-DOUBLE’YOU NEW
I think my precious alolan sandshrew needs to calm u down a bit… Uses “blizzard”
Wolfrock??
Thats a horrible name
Wtf kinda name is that, earthen.
So we have all the bird Starters in the anime as a whole…
Ash: Rowlet (Grass/Flying)
May: Blaziken (Fire/Fighting)
Dawn: Piplup (Water)
And?
If Rowlett has a Day/Night form like Rockruff’s evo, then it’s second, the one we’ve seen feels like the Day form, so for the sake of this lets say Night, might have a type other than Flying, with the accepted theory right now being Ground
yes indeed, the Day would be an archer based on Robin Hood and the usual flying owl (Grass/Flying) whilst night will be based on the burrowing owl (Grass/Ground)
Litten for Day would be on all fours (Fire), whilst night would be the wrestler (Fire/Ghost or Dark).
Popplio’s would probably be the Mermaid for night (Water/Fairy), and for day something else (Water/Fighting)
whichever way, this is what I have come up with that might be bang on the money
The dog’s red/white evo is quite lame, but the other one is very neat. So I reckon that it won’t have one more evo, right? It’s a real pity.
I like both 🙁 they’re so cute.
Does anybody else think that ash going back to school in Alola implies the existence of an educational institution more complex than the regular trainer school? If so, I’m pretty psyched, I’d love attending pokemon trainer school to be a part of gameplay. It’ll also tie into the trial system quite neatly.
He’d probably have been so bummed of losing Kalos and past leagues that he’s deciding to take part in order to become a better trainer.
Looks like Charizard isn’t the only one who had to train.
That’s a good idea
Unfortunately for Ashy Boy, it won’t help him.
True, because he and Pikachu are the only things that’s keeping the show going. If ash would’ve won Kalos then that would be it, game over. He’s the Pokemon Master.
No he isn’t the Pokemon Master…
He can literally befriend any pokemon. I don’t think he’s a master in the terms of battling but instead protection and befriending.
I’m loving this school idea..
Maybe at least his classmates will acknowledge Ash saving the planet and universe a million times over the next few years.
Just don’t want him to end up with a cutesy weak team, or anime quality to drop like unova.
It’s So weird how we can’t prove or disprove these leaks as of yet.
This means we are two Corocoros away from Sun and Moon…. November and December issues, and then launch a few days after the December. Unfortunately I won’t be able to play as much thanks to work and school but I can’t wait! Tbh I wish they were being released in October like XY and ORAS. I would actually have time for them.
I’m really not sure about these Ultra Beasts. I’m interested to see how they play into the story… But they need to chill with the designs.
Night Rugarugan reminds me of Zoroak, though that’s to be expected as both seem to be werewolf based
They’re fucking gorgeous
Zoroark is a fox
It is yes, but also has werewolf features.
Bulbapedia:
“Zoroark is likely based on kitsune of Japanese folklore, a shape-shifting mythical fox that would trick unsuspecting travelers for fun. This is similar to Ninetales, another Pokémon based on kitsune. Its facial markings draw from Kabuki and Noh theatre makeup. It also resembles a werewolf, due to the fact that it is an anthropomorphic canid, like most werewolves. Its large claws are also werewolf-like.”
When Zoroark was first shown, it’s name reminds me of Zordrak from ‘The Dreamstone’
LOL I bet the English name for Rockruff will be something like, Whereruff. LOL 😀
Ddddddf I just read the anime corocoro leak ???? NOT ash going from a trainer to a fucking student trying graduate. I guess he got tired of getting his ass kicked at the leagues and decided to go back to school. #pokemonanimeisOVERparty http://jennytrout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/oprah-is-not-buying-it.gif (rf)
Like he’s been out of school for YEARSSSSSS. Does this bitch even know how to write anymore
The has been over for years. Let them think of something new, and change it up a little. I think it’d be nice to see Ash do something other than battle Pokémon.
Plus there’s no league in Alola (that we know of). They had to think of something to help fill the gaps.
He is still 10.. probably turning 11 (again) for Sun and Moon.
For all we know, that’s what the trial system could be called/translated as…idk why everyone is freaking out. It’s not like he’s going to be stuck in a building the entire time.
What if that big fancy hotel resort looking building is actually a renowned school ? ? ? ?
Random thought: If Type:Null is a combination of the Starters final evolutions (Or 1 form of them) and Rockruffs evolutions day form, then could there be a second Type:Null, with the other forms?
Considering it’s creation I’d say no, but it’s not out of the question.
I’ve seen this theory not to long ago. The starters have different forms that adapt so using their DNA and body parts Null was made to adapt as well.
A Day form and a Night Form Type:Null.
If they do shift depending ,then Type:Null would too right?
But if they don’t shift forms, and it instead acts like Meowstics evolution just with Time of day and not gender, then a Second Type:Null would make sense.
The one we know of I feel is made up of the day form, which would probably make the leaked Starters the Night forms, so Type:Null.2 would be more Bipedal.
Or it could just not exist at all.
I could see it. But we’ll find out next month.
Could find out sooner, but yes probably next month
Platinum and HeartGold are so much better with exp multipliers lol.
My heartgold game glitches sometimes when I fight Morty’s Gengar and it gives me 20000 xp.
LOL
Well I guess maybe the one “Leak” may be true. The guy did say that one of Rockruff’s forms looked like it was wearing a kull (or whatever it was) that was attached to its tail. True his drawing didn’t look ANYTHING even remotely close to the form just reviled, but the general info really wasn’t wrong. 🙂 To me it looks like he’s wearing the fur of his other form on his back/head, BUT it also looks like his tail suddenly jumped from his tail to his back/head. So essentially the leaker was at least somewhat accurate in saying that it was wearing something like a cloak that was connected to his tail. LOL
The way the ugly blonde boy is holding the fat rat (with its tail pointing forward) makes it look like a compass or something like that. I think the rat will be able to use magnetic fields to localize itself. So it’s like Ash and friends will have a gps pokemon on the team this season (no more getting lost).
so what I could guess for the starters, based on Rockruff’s evolution…
Rockruff: (day) Based on Wolf, (night) Based on Werewolf
We have…
Rowlet: (day) Based on Flying Owl and Robin Hood (Grass/Flying), (night) Based on Burrowing Owl and Assassin’s Creed (Grass/Ground)
Litten: (day) Based on four legged Tiger (Fire), (night) Based on Tiger Mask (Fire/Ghost)
Popplio: (day) Based on a performing Seal (Water/Fighting), (night) Based on a Mermaid (Water/Fairy)
God, I hope there’s a Litten day form. I need something other than that monstrosity.
i love its design
No you don’t. It’s so basic.
Noooo, compared to Rowlett and Popplio’s final evolutions. Rowlett’s looks cool, but doesn’t even look like a pokemon. And Popplio’s final is just horrible
It’s just another aggressive looking fire starter to me… Not a cool and sleek tiger that like everyone wanted
I feel u
Popplio3 don’t need another form, its enough with uglymustachebearingmacholookingSamurott =/
if you look at Rockruff’s evolution, you’d be surprise to how not much have changed between the two branches of the same tree
Its a bit of a stretch though.. The form changing mons this gen. First I thought it was a cool fresh idea (wishiwashi or something like that), but using it for the starters and rockruff sounds a bit… too much.. Why do I want a starter that changes his/ her appearance during the night..
I just don’t think its a good idea.
Just make them evolve different during the day or night ORRRR make them Moon & Sun exclusive evolutions…
Still a stan for that idea, yes.
I’m pretty sure that’s what Lugarugan does. Day and night evolved forms.
same could be said for Espeon and Umbreon, which you have to level up Eevee’s friendship and let it evolve during the day (Espeon) or night (Umbreon)
I did say I like that idea ;), just no form changes, tnx
Nothing is confirmed though.. CoroCoro is vague this month
Well serebii just updated their info on Rockruff and they’re saying which form you get will depend on when you evolve it.
Nothing is explained or confirmed, so he cant know it for sure
Can you translate?
nope, wish i could though.
did you just say serebii put something up that wasn’t confirmed? … you know serebii doesn’t do that, right?
haha, well he just did, so… The translation is vague enough to let us in the dark (side of the moon) on if he changes his form during the day or depending on when U let him evolve.
The Pokemon here, Rockruff, Rowlet, Litten and Popplio’s evolution, though normal in level such as Level 36, they will follow a similar path to how Eevee evolves into Espeon and Umbreon.
Which of course is linking to the 20th anniversary of Gen 2 and 10th for Gen 4, as those two Gens use a day/night system.
I really really really hope so!
OH MY GOD AETHER IS STUDYING THE ULTRA BEASTS AND ARE COLLECTING POKÉMON TO ATTEMPT TO FUSE THEM WITH HUMANS BUT WHAT IF THEY’RE USING TECH SIMILAR TO WHAT BILL CREATED IN GEN 1
It ALL comes together 😀
What if the ultra beast are made in a similar fashion in their own dimension and they’ve come to ours to “Join” people and pokemon. Basically dimensional hopping zealots imposing their will across the multivariate. Or is that a little bit dark for a pokemon game?
Never too dark
New Ultra Beast leaked
Lol dont rustle us
September 14th’s update will reveal Rugarugan’s English name as well as the updates on the Ultra Beasts.
Still, 9/14’s update on Pokemon Sun and Moon will reveal starter evolutions, plus the Alola Guardian of Akala Island, plus more new Pokemon, plus more Alolan forms, plus a few new Mega Evolutions, plus Marshadow.
If any updates on Pokemon Sun and Moon reveal Loboxter, Dulfrost, Rockaby, and Unowns 0-9, I might laugh.
Source?
is… is that james getting a bewear?!? finally they give good pokemon to good trainers.
nawww too big
i rather it be a running gag where a bewear becomes…”enamored” with the group and wanders looking for them
that’s actually a pretty funny idea.
Bit like Ash’s Sandile
So like Jigglypuff
Yes but Jigglypuff was annoying af
Whatever even happened to Jiggles?
No idea, but I hope someone killed it
The last I remember it being in the anime is when they were taking a blimp to the orange islands
Its last appearance was in a Advanced Generations episode
Hm. Weird!
Ffs I hate Lockstin’s cryptic words
”Welcome to Confirmed Town, where things confirm things”
I WANT PART 3
did we ever get a southern alola island guide?
UB-02 Expansion「ふくれ上がる」の名にふさわしい肉体は全身凶器！> “Body systemic weapon worthy of the name of the [expansion]!” (expansion as in swelling up or bulgy).
like the donkey kong meme?
Sadly.. I don’t know about it.
expand dong is a meme where people take an akward picture of donkey kong’s face and near it some awkward and vulgar text usually by re-arranging the letters in the title of a donkey kong game (if that makes sense.)
Corocoro says Lugarugan is a form that is determined if Rockruff evolves in day or night. The reason it talks about differences is because this is the first time it talks about the 12 hour difference thing, and how both games are considered separate worlds.
Nor for expansion, I think it can increase it’s muscle mass making itself stronger, which is a dope power.
I’ve seen several people translating this as a form, so it seems to be just ONE evolution. The used word (すがた = Sugata = Form) is the same for Alolan Forms.
As for UB-02E, drinking blood like a mosquito, bulging up.
Lillie has an Alolan Vulpix! (From Kanto possibly?)
“Alolan” therefore not from Kanto or it would be normal vulpix
^ that
Hmmm…
I’ve been pondering. If the games are based 12 hours apart from each other, would that mean that you are most likely to get one evolution than the other, like in Pokemon Sun (Rockruff’s day evolution more than Rockruff’s Night evolution), or is it going to be day and night all the time until or beyond capturing the Legendaries?
the first one I guess
in that case I would have to wait till night when playing Sun and day in Moon
or just set ur 3ds clock differently 😉
Nah I’m more of a Nightowl, I can wait.
Well Moon players are probably going to be more prone to having night Rockruff and Sun players the day one. I don’t think it’ll be like eternal night/day though.
so in Pokemon Sun: Rockruff’s Day Evolution is 75% likely than Night Evolution which is 25%
Pokemon Moon: Rockruff’s Night Evolution is 75% likely than Day Evolution which is 25%
And if that’s the case, then if I got Sun, then I would have to wait till nightfall to get the Night evolved Pokemon, which only leaves me of a short amount of time.
Yeah, I think that’s accurate.
Why is Lapras in the anime? ????????
Pokeride, duh 😛
Or is it….
What I really want to know is what pokemon Lana is riding in that picture.
20th anniversary of the anime so wouldn’t surprise me if some of Ash’s released Mons make a return. His Lapras was pretty strong as well if I recall.
it never one a battle. i think it really never battled either
He used it in one of the Orange Islands gym battles
yea but it was a race not a battle
He used it against Drakes Gengar in the Orange league final
No, he used it against Drake. It fought his Gengar and won
lance or drake im so confused. was that one where it like ended with both fainting
Sorry, I meant Drake!
i looked at ash’s team tier list and it said it never won a battle so i was confused
Well that’s inaccurate! It did knock out gengar, but was also knocked out in the process
yea so its like a tie so they didn’t considered it a win
Man, that’s petty…
should be in the .5% then
It beat Gengar, you can look it up on Bulbapedia
but didnt gengar basically beat it too 😉
He battled the Champ of the Orange Islands and was his first beaten yet it resulted a double knockout.
This Pokémon is sooo beautiful (rf) http://img14.deviantart.net/f7f0/i/2016/256/7/2/lugarugan_by_salanchu-dahitak.png
I’m naming mine Nymeria for sure.
Shoot, I might need to use this adorable peice of precious fluff
You know I never saw the appeal in Rockruff. But it’s evolution? I’m digging it 🙂
OMG WHAT? ROCKRUFF IS BEYOND ADORABLE!
I will protect it
I will help it grow strong and healthy
I will show it to my friends and family
So majestic. Definitely one of my favorites from Alola
One of mine too, together with Jangmo-o, Vikavolt and Rowlet.
Those are my favs too!
you have very good taste then 🙂
Jangmo-o is probably going to be a favorite of mine as well but I will have to see what they do with its evo
I feel like im the only one who loves the night version more then the day.
I love both of them but I like the day more because the night has a slight Verlis feel to it…
Yeaaa thats only downside, dont get me wrong both are awesome but the night one clicks with me more.
Someone actually did this based on the reference sheet a while ago. She’d got Ash’s clothes spot on, the only thing she had gotten wrong was his hat.
http://pre07.deviantart.net/02f4/th/pre/f/2016/221/5/3/5379e83f9535be0e70e86777afe30da7-dad8inh.png
i still think ash will catch litten’s final
evolved from Litten is most likely. The creaters have planned this through since X and Y’s launch. They have already planned of how the anime would turn out. From start-middle-and finish. They’re already at work planning for Gen 8 right now.
it would be nice to see ash catch a starter in its second stage or final for once
perhaps, maybe. But as for what we know about Pokemon, he would always get starters right from the start.
They told you this over a nice cup of tea, yes?
Lol they’re heating a pot with a fire crotch
pot crotch the hottest of pots
Not as hot as Lysandre’s fire crotch
t’s a fire belt
It’s a fire crotch
That wat I was talk about ,so wat is that thing whose Lana sit on??
new pokwmon?
I was just wondering that. It’s not Lapras…and not Sharpedo.
I thought it might be saddle but I do not know
That’s a saddle.
It’s not look like a saddle for me if it’s ….saddle for wat ?
Maybe Mudsdale?
http://pm1.narvii.com/6187/9a3fbf1120cc314f54f6998da8409168d6750449_hq.jpg
could be but she didn’t ride Lapras by the way.
Are you kidding? It’s the exact same saddle. She’s just sitting backwards.
No I am not ,y should she sitting backwards?…..she ride another pkmn.
Rowlet
Jangmo-o
Rockruff
Vikavolt
Alola Ninetales
Pikipek
My proposed team for my first playthrough. I CANT WAIT!
If Jangmo-o is the pseudo I probably won’t have it first play through. Too late in the game
I’ll replace it with Torturuga or Salandit if thats the case
Not bad choices. I like those guys too
why no alolan?
I have Alolan Ninetales in my team
sorry didnt see ur post above, ur fine now.
that always sucks yes
I know :/ That’s why I’ll wait till I play Moon to have it or something. Unless it evolves at a ridiculously high level. I wish the pseudos were more like gible and could be found early on in the game, just in a hidden/neat place. I mean, Gible after the second gym is great placement
I’m down with that! Hate to catch pokemon in their late lvls (discriminator yesS!). They always have horrible movesets and appear just before the league/ gym 8.. Thats way too late.
In my XY I decided hey why not catch a Flying type cause my team needs one my team of course was
Chesnaught
Sylveon
Vivilon
Lucario
(Why can’t I remember!!!)
So I caught my Noibat then used Rare candy cause it sucked and Noivern was born now resides as Lv.100 in ORAS waiting to revamp and use it (only thing I still like using from my XY game)
everytime i see Jangmo-o
i just see the o-o face
very big ice type weakness you have.
Rowlet (Grass/Flying)
Rockruff (Rock/???)
Jangmo-o (Dragon/???)
Vikavolt (Bug/Electric)
Salandit (Fire/Poison)
Until now this will be my team. I actually love every Pokémon on it, which makes me feel curious to see the rest of the dex!
Jangmo-o Dragon/Water, but I already told you this yesterday XD
That’d make my team even more perfect to me 🙂
why r u thinking that?
Because its an Hawaiian dragon and they are mythical water creatures
ohhhh, I’m okay with that. Needed a water one for my team anyways.
Or it can be steel Dragon because of it’s ability soundproof/bulletproof.
Rowlet
Vikavolt
Rockruff (day, most likely)
That’s all I have for sure for now.
Rowlet
Rockruff (day)
Alolan Sandslash
Jangmo-o
?
?
For me it’s obvious
Popplio
Snorlax
Rockruff (Day form)
Mimikyu
Turtornator
Alolan Sandslash
My team “may” consist of
Rowlet
Litten
Popplio
Rockruff
Jangmo-o (?)
Mimikyu
At least for my main game anyway. I am getting both version’s, but I am starting with Moon first. I’ll use the Sun version to get the other two starters. 😀
I have pre-ordered two Sun versions and one Moon. Depending on the final evolutions of the starters I will either cancel one Sun or keep them all.
Litten
Rockruff (not sure day or night evolution yet, I hope he turns into both. Like when it’s day he is midday form and when it’s night he turns into midnight form)
Komala
Oricorio (Sensu Style)
Jangmo-o
Crabrawler
Popplio
Ninetales (Alolan form)
Oricorio (Baile Style)
Bewear
Lurantis
???????
Rowlet
Mudsdale
Salandit
Drampa
Raichu (Alolan form)
Palossand
From my interpretation of Joe Merrick’s post. It seems like the video update is going to happen on June 14th 10:00 pm over there. Have Pokemon videos ever come out that late before?
Edit:
Nevermind I just answered my own question.
I think it’s 10 am or earlier
That is something that is perplexing me. I have seen people say that, but he has it listed as 22:00 JST on his website.
10 am PST I think and yeah serebii said it might come early in the morning NOT at night
It’s at night for Japan. The rest of the world it’ll be day/morning
JST Japan Standard Time
They have. I think they try and make it even for when they do the updates. Sometimes it in the morning sometimes at night.
I think you mean September 14th?
And I think YOU mean September 14th lol
Wait…it’s already September!! Where have I been for the past three months. This means Pokemon Sun and Moon are only two months away 0-0.
Did you last speak to Earthen? Cause then we all know!
I don’t know. My memory is a bit foggy. The last thing I remember is that I was enjoying a scoop of Peanut Butter Ice cream before I felt a sharp pain originating from the back of my neck-and then darkness.
Oh No Earthen might attack quickly!
*Hides in bomb shelter*
Looking at the image that shows all three Ultra Beasts:
What do people think of this being a family tree with Lillie (UB-01), Lusamine (UB-02 Beauty) and Lillie’s Father (UB-02 Expansion)?
Nice theme PJ …it’s kinda make me like rock type.
Just thought for what Gen 8 might be called.
Pokemon Wet and Pokemon Dry, as in the seasons of Wet season and Dry season. Seeing that it’ll be around the 10th anniversary of Gen 5 in 2020, it’ll be possibly be linked to the changing seasons within the game, and would possibly be based on areas that have wet and dry season. Linking to Unova, probably Central or South America (Mexico City, Rio De Jenero)
I feel Pokemon wet more as Pokemon Monsoon and for Dry? Pokemon Arid
Even better.
Pokemon Arid and Pokemon Monsoon
A lot of Ground and Water types would probably unveil
yup.
and with the third legendary being linked to the four seasons
Tokio hotel – monsoon xD
I feel like that doesn’t work because Arid is an adjective you use to describe a climate and monsoon is more of an actual event
Nah, Pokemon, Red Two, Pokemon Blue two, and Pokemon Mew Two lol
New reveal: The biggest Ultra Beast yet, said to crash your game and corrupt your save file.
The best part of this .png is that it actually went wonkers, even though I have the original intact on my computer and it’s from the official site.
Have you heard about UB-EA? You have to buy $50 in micro transactions to get it. (Also includes 3 hours post game.)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/14068148_1078198365569111_4040402957898792977_n.jpg?oh=1340c9e9b71ffaee17043e0f7ed34f22&oe=5884E09A&__gda__=1480844903_30512161522e879cbb956cb6ddc318e4
thats old men
Well not everybody is online 24/7
haha the exceggutor ‘vines’ are spammed since the reveal of the alolan form xD
I think you mean memes, vines=/=memes :p
Yes ^ that
LOLZ
LOL! How are they gonna make it work?
Platinum team after 1 badge
Monferno
Starravia
Luxio
Floatzel
Buneary
Two Ultra Beasts and Two NPCs. This is the first.
And this is the other.
I like the idea of Ultra Beast but they also kind of make me want to throw up at the thought because they’re slightly terrifying. Not so much UB 01 but the other two
This last one is truly identic in pose, if anyone had doubts on ub01 being based on Lillie now I think there’s no doubt on ultra beasts being based on “real” characters
Then who would the third Ultra Beast resemble?
With Sun and Moon looking to be HUGE games since we’ve barely scratched the surface with what the games are about… I like the way GF is being conservative with game info.
It’s best to keep expectations low always. It may turn out that the game is actually a thin walled vessel.
My friend today kinda angered me how he was head over heels over the Ultra beasts yet barely cared for Rockruff Evos. And he thought the next season promo picture was dumb that just set me off inside. ? But I’ll live through it.
Going a few posts down, people seem pissed that Pokemon is becoming a slice of life anime rather than the shounen anime they’re used to. Let me clarify a few things:
1. Being a slice of life anime is simply a designation and in no way shape or form does it hinder the overall potential, plot, or entertainment of an anime
2. Contrary to the popular belief on this site, a slice of life anime focuses primarily on PLOT, CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, and CHANGE rather than it being just a reflection of the real world
3. Some of the most well received and well known anime all, at some point, incorporate(d) slice of life: your name., Hero Academia, Studio Ghibli films, The Boy and the Beast, Wolf Children, etc…
In conclusion, the genre overhaul, artistic choices, and your pre-existing stigmas against anime of this genre should not be the deciding factor as to whether or not you will watch the show. A show is simply not something created by its labels, but rather its artistic interpretations and writing. Pokemon will still be shounen… but it’s going to add a slice of life label as well and I’m pretty amped up. 😀
This comment deserves to be featured
xD Thanks
I don’t understand the whole slice of life thing. How do you think the genre change will affect the anime?
The series will be simplified, not in the sense of battling or anything like that. But it will most likely mean less fillers and more story-driven episodes.
For one, expect writing to be much more focused on the relationships between the Pokemon and their trainers, the trainers themselves, and the interaction between trainers and also Pokemon. Expect the plot to be much more progressive, linear, and have several sub plots. Rather than battles which are a primary source of showing off your bond, expect more than just battling and utilizing Pokemon for other various reasons which seems to be the focus of the games and anime now.
I am not a fan of rock type but I can’t deny how much I love this demonic look …he looks like slay a sheep and wear it, the color is so proper….I think these eyes determine wat his ability like…..turning opponent in to a rock type. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1473692607408.png
Reminds me of the saying, “Wolf in sheep’s clothing.”
Rock/Dark?
I like how he’s not standard rock type colours. Nice that he’s red and white, but has sharp rock claws etc.
Even though there’s some weird additions like ultra beasts, design wise Alola is one of the best! Look at the Aether foundation, the Pokemon and the region itself! Hoping the base forms we’ve seen now have good evolutions like Rockruff does
I hope GF is smart and adds choices to the story, like FE:Fates did, although not a whole lot of them. There are no bad guys in Pokemon S/M, it all depends on the perception of the player on the UBs. Aether Foundation supports the UBs and wants to incorporate them into our world, while Team Skull is against them, due to a feud between them and the UBs. You choose whether to support them and live in peace with the UBs (like a employee in Aether Foundation) or eliminate them off this planet, for they do not belong (like a grunt in Team Skull).
It will also add another team basis to the Pokemon Community to draw GOers in. One of the biggest thing drawing GOers in is the loyalty to their team, adding a Team Skull vs Aether Foundation will add a whole new meta-game, with conquer game-modes where you have to control areas of Alola in battles.
Oh gosh, please let this be real. This is just speculation from me tho xD
You are setting yourself for some good ol’ fashioned disappointment.
Optimism is key
I just had a crazy theory…what if Missingno becomes an Ultra Beast? Think about it: they’re so clearly pandering to all things Gen I right now (which I don’t really have a problem with), and they’ve shown through the eshop ports that they embrace Missingno, as they didn’t alter the games to remove it. I think it would be a cool nod if they included Missingno in some way, at least.
Yes please! I want missing no to become canon
I mean, if they made long-neck Exeggutor from the old TCG cannon, why not Missingno??
I had this same thought actually. 😀
But I also thought that it could Possibly become Type: Null instead. It would make a lot of sense. 😀
Deoxys is Missingno
Omg my comment is featured, I’ve made it
You’ve peaked.
Society has really shined on you
With 33 upvotes to boot.
I think this is my most upvoted comment? That’s neat
“True strength of Type: Null”
Is this a hint to Mega Evolution? So far, Megas have been described as the true potential of certain Pokémon. Is this a tease for the re-incorporation of Megas in the story? I wouldn’t mind at all. I love Megas and Type: Null definitely needs something more, appearance wise, to truly pass as a powerful Pokémon like it has be teased. Maybe with the Mega, the helmet comes off xD
it’s a hint to marshadow, which Type: null clearly is. Leaker said Mashadow has a very unique type. Wthat’s better that a normal type that looks nothing like a normal type and which is calles type: null…Imo it’s quite obvious…
That’s new. Never occurred to me. We shall see soon!
Marshadow literally isn’t Null
Just noticed the name of Rowlet meaning J.K. Rowling more clearly now with this anime.
Ash is going to school in order to become a better trainer for the next league right? Well what if to say that Ash is Harry Potter and his Rowlet is Hagris?
You begin to see a pattern here, even though Harry Potter is old news.
The company is really beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel now. But hey, it could work.
Harry Potter is never old news! Harry Potter is always relevant!
What are you talking about? Nothing about Sun and Moon is a Harry Potter reference…
It’s just a nod to the head, seeing Ash is going to school with an Owl Pokemon.
Wait Ash’s going to school WHAT??????!!!!!!!!!
Seems like it. And his goal now is to try and graduate.
Ohh I see and I read it on Serebii this sounds like the best Season yet!!!!
he’s probably going there to try and be a better Pokemon trainer after losing six Pokemon Leagues. In order to become a Pokemon Master, he needs to be a better trainer than who he is now.
Its name does NOT come from J.K Rowling. 🙁
Someone already said what it probably came from, can’t remember what the first part was from, but the second part was from the ending of the word Owlet
You mean ‘Arrow’?
Although it does seem far-fetched to consider that it’s evolution is mirroring that of Robin Hood and british books
Arrow. I came up with a huge theory about this back in June if you’re curious.
This literally makes zero sense. Delete this nonsense
My New favorite pokemon of the Alola Region 🙂
My Annual Favorite Pokemon (No Alolan forms on this sorry they all are great) I’m not doing all of them just Top 7 at best no stress
1. Popplio
2. Komala
3. Rockruff Evo. Day for (seriously that name up top can’t be its English name)
4. Bounsweet
5. Mimikyu
6. Turtornator
7. Togedemaru
8. Minior
9. Morelull
10. Stufful
1. Jangmo-o
2. Rowlet
3. Rockruff Day Evo
4. Vikavolt
5. Salandit
6. Solgaleo
7. Drampa
8. Mudsdale
9. Turtonator
10. Komala
This dude deserves credits http://kotaku.com/pokemon-player-completes-pokedex-without-ever-collectin-1786541056
This is the Master of Pokemon right here
Maybe just my overthinking but according to serebii “Ash is going to school and his goal is to graduate”……I have a crazy Idea about that wat if his Alola journey had been started before Kalos one…I mean look at Ash he seems younger.
Ash always looks younger when he starts a new journey. Its what they have been doing since gen 3.
Ash looks more mature in Kalos.
I hope they don’t pull the same thing like they did with Episode 2 of Season 2 of XY and that Sucked terribly!
But, how would you explain Pikachu? And, that could be his Charizard also.
I said before Kalos not Kanto.
Sorry
NP
I don’t know if it’s because they are something new and different, not being human nor pokémon, but these “Ultra-Beasts” terrify and amaze me. Honestly, I think the most terrifying thing about UB-01 is that it has no face, like, literally, no emotion whatsoever; as far as I’ve read, we humans tend to dislike things that resemble living beings but have no expression, like masks. UB-B2 has a very malicious look (and description), and if that red stuff in UB-E2 is actually supposed to be blood – hence the mosquito motif, then that thing is disgustingly awesome! (and I can only wonder where that blood came from….)
Official Pokemon channel has uploaded the first episode of Origins. They’re really throwing this gen 1 nostalgia at us.
I thought Serena is in this Sun and Moon show.
RIP armourshipping
You won’t be remembered
I will remember it… always….
Sadly, so will I.
So here’s my Malaysian region starter idea.
Orambutan (Grass)
Starangutan (Grass)
Duriangutan (or Durangutan) (Grass/?)
What do you think? (Also what type would Durangutan be?)
(Refresh)
P.S. The pictures are not in order
UGHHHH IT LOOKS LIKE A PRICKLY TESTICLE
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!
Ugh. I never saw it that way. Maybe I should color it in.
The design is really nice! Although I hate Durians with a passion so I would smash all these little bastards
Pick the fire starter 😀
I’ve never saw how lazy GF has made us I started playing Yellow on the 3ds (I forgot I had bought it awhile back lol) but man to do anything even use HMs you have to open the pause menu.
(refresh) I hope it’s not too blurry.
I already said this but I just made a picture for it, don’t yell spam at me plz.
So, I thought that you should be able join a team in S/M and it impacts the story, you could be Aether, Skull, or Neutral. It adds the Team loyalty concept from Go which keeps people playing. Someone’s bio would say #teaminstinct #teamskull and such. So I made a rough sketch of what a Conquer Mode would look like. It is where you are on your team that you chose during the story and fight for the loyalty of the Alola region. Just an idea I had to draw/share. It is like gyms, but a world effort conquer-style game where you have to fight to claim land/ loyalty from Alola citizens.
I know, it’s probably not going to happen… but what if it did?
So you have to try to get the loyalty of all Alola, the borders of team lands are constantly changing, and you have to battle to defend/claim more land.
Maybe with Pokemon Conquest 2. 😀
Saw this on Twitter: UB-01 (jellyfish), UB-B2 (cockroach) and UB-E2 (mosquito) are pests.
How it can relate to the plot of SM?
Maybe Aether is trying to bring “useless” creatures up to par with humans by splicing their DNA together.
Are Jellyfish pests?
oh yes they are. one of the beaches near me have this jellyfish season where you cannot swim at all because they are all over the ocean and when the season is over literally thousand of them appear dead on the shore
Interesting…
Ok so I have a few questions: does Rockruff’s evo’s form depend on when it evolves, or does it just matter what time of day it is? And, not to be that guy, but are we sure there isn’t another page? I mean, in comparision to what CoroCoro has given us lately, this isn’t much.
What don’t you get
It is day or night
Day 5am-7:59pm
8pm-4:59am
He’s asking whether it is permanent evolution based on the time of the day or just a form change between day and night.
So? Do we not know?
It’s confirmed that the Rockruff receives a different form depending on the time of day it evolves. This statement implies that it receives a permanent form, rather than a periodically changing one. There may be a way to alter the form post-evolution, but it would most likely be player-controlled rather than time-based.
Thankfully, that picture of Team Rocket has me relieved they won’t be ruined like BW did.
TR were ruined after episode 1
James most likely have a Bewear ….that’s mean it will huge him just after sending it………I think James need a stunt double.
no offense, but the artwork does not give rugarugan justice
The Day one looks fine. Not a fan of the Night one though.
yeah. I just going to wait for the trailer to see their 3d model and make my final opinion
I’ve been a fan of Rockruff since it was first announced, I’m actually happy it gets a good evolution. Here’s hoping it has some decent stats now.
Really? I think the artwork is nice. I love them both. We finally get awesome wolf pokemon.
i just wish it was on neutral position instead of attacking position to admire it more
Looking for this? (rf)
http://img08.deviantart.net/6dd1/i/2016/256/a/3/lugarugan_day_form___rockruff_iwanko_evolution_by_alexalan-dahiiom.png
boom
Well, it is a werewolf. Kinda vicious. But I can see what you mean. I want to see the in game models
The Ultra beasts truly look terrifying.
Rugarugan night form looks like a Sonic character though lol
They should call rockruffs evo “Rockwulf”
…..No.
-Rugalu
-Rugalupe
-Lugaru
-Rougalupe
I don’t see them dropping the “Rugaru” origin of the Japanese name.
Weruff
Too cutesy for a werewolf
Which Rockruff evolution does everyone prefer? Midday or Midnight?
Day, only slightly.
I like both but i want Day unless Night can charm me
Day. I very much dislike night.
U can’t it’s Immune.
Night all the way ….day form is good too but I am a dark man.
I’m a dark man too… My two favorite types are Dark and Ice, with Fire coming in third. But, I like variety on my teams, and I have Rockruff and Litten together. I’m hoping Litten’s final evolution will be Fire/Dark, and if the night evolution of Rockruff turns Rock/Dark I’ll go with day. But I still am not 100% decided yet…
My favorite types are Dark, Fire and ghost …Dragon oming in 2nd place…..even if Litten end Fire/Dark I will chose this pkmn.
I wait until after I beat the game, then I create a “whatever” team which is usually the starter and a bunch of Pokemon of my favorite types.
Day!
I have nothing against either of them, but Day because it looks more like an animal and I love those Pokémon.
Currently I’m leaning towards day… But, if the night one becomes Rock/Dark (and Litten doesn’t become a Fire/Dark type) I could be swayed towards the night evolution.
I prefer the night one myself.
Day 😀
also i think is funny how the first cockroach design is basically a pageant girl
It looks more like a mantis to me but either way, I love it
I thought it was Fish bones when I saw it right after waking up lol.
Wait did we not get Rockruff evo types?
Nope
That’s odd.
Probably will be in the news we get on the 14th.
Wait, if UB02 is facing against Tapu Koko, then what if the UBs were created as artificial guardians to replace the Tapus when team aether takes over alola? Just a small theory to mull over.
I see someone else is thinking along the same lines, posted this theory earlier, great minds think alike haha!
Hey everyone, I wasn’t on today cuz school. But I absolutely love both Rockruff evos. For me, Day and Night are equal in terms of design. But the ultra beasts…. Not sure what to think about them.
And in terms of anime art style. Ew…. At least for now, ew.
I’m honestly fine with Ash’s Design. But that Pikachu face…. Ahh!!!…. It should just have the typical mouth only smile 🙁
I kinda hope that Hau is his male companion.
Hay will be his sorta rival tho right?
Well it can’t be Elio, he’s way too generic.
He’s gonna have that Anime exclusive rival and then a rival/friend rival from the game
Yah but the plot tho. SCHOOL?! ARE THEY SERIOUS?
*prays this isn’t like Black & White anime (Or worse)
Everyone is getting the school thing wrong. By school they mean his learning experiences during the island trails!!!
You sure? Cause if that is what it is thank GOODNESS
Ahh, that new Rockruff logo is adorable! :O
The leaks for this month definitely was a delight to see, especially the leak for the S & M anime. I am definitely intrigued with the direction the Pokemon Company is going with this. I just hope it plays out well and not turn out like B & W….
From the looks of it, ash will get all three starters. Ugh. 🙁
I’m sorry, but that will not be acceptable. Just Rowlett pls
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW I LOVE THESE!!!!!!!!! I was scared that rockruff would evolve into a werewolf because i wanted a normal wolf, but some wanted the werewolf. It was awesome for gamefreak to please both sides and make both things! Day is my favorite, it resembles rockruff but at the same time it looks more powerful! I like night aswell but eh i wanted rockruff to stay animal like 🙂
You think like me 😀
Ok a lot of people (even at my school) were saying “Ash Is gonna go to school?! That’s stupid!” So I’m gonna repost this.
Everyone is getting the school thing wrong. By school they mean his learning experiences during the island trails!!!
Nah i mean they mean school school because the building in the artwork looks like one xD maybe they go on class trips around alola and the grades are based on how well they do on the trials lol
That’s….. No… Just . Maybe you don’t think like me
Aww 🙁
Lol. I didn’t mean it literally….. It’s just… Ugh… Pokémon is not gonna become a School Anime….
Lol yeah it would be weird to randomly change it after the way it has been for 20 years from ash exploring the region to him going to school because he realized he is a noob or something haha
He should remain a noob. That’s why we need Brock.
They should bring him back and make it so that he accomplished his dream of becoming a doctor and wanted to keep travelling to help as many pokemon as he can
Yeah. I don’t care if the voice actor changes. I want our Brock back
Dawn, serena or misty would be good as well lets hope mallow is just as good as them!
Wasn’t most of the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX series based around school? I thought it was pretty good when I watched it way back when…
It was, but it was less a school and more of a college/training academy sort of vibe then a traditional school. Pokemon could pull of something similar and make it interesting.
Actually i think that one of the first missions in game is to visit the trainer school which looks bigger than those in other regions, maybe it plays a bigger role in these games or maybe it’s just to show off the graphics xD
Yeah. It’s probably like Island Trail HQ
I honestly agree with you. Sure there may be some kind of “school” premise, but I think overall it’ll be more so that it’s a new kind of journey. He’s gonna have to learn the ropes again this time as it’s not the typical gym routine he has had for 6 regions. I imagine it won’t be multiple episodes of him sitting in a classroom hahaha
For anyone who’s wondering: the secret is NOT dual evos. Or dual forms. We’ve seen the starters in the dex, there is only two open slots on the top screen next to the starters, meaning they can’t have dual evos. They’ve also said that the screen displays forms too, so that’s ruled out.
When did they say it showed forms too? Also would that be a good thing if it did? There are plenty of Pokemon that have a ton of forms and I get the feeling it would get crowded if they were all shown lol
I mean they showed 9 spots for Eevee. There’s a screenshot somewhere. Also they said it in the E3 treehouse stream sometime after they caught Ledyba.
I just watched that part. The words they use are ambiguous. They say “it either has an evolution or maybe another Pokemon that forms a pair with it” That to me means something different. If it was simply forms he was talking about then he would have just said so. He specifically states that it would be a different Pokemon other than the one you just caught. I imagine it could be like Solrock and Lunatone. Both are separate Pokemon, but form a pair. He never says anything about actual Pokemon forms. Otherwise he would have said something like it shows an evolution or another form the Pokemon has.
Not necessarily. Dual forms for the starters’ final evolutions are certainly a possibility at this point in time. Promotional footage of an incomplete pokedex is not substantial enough evidence to repudiate this theory. Teasers have hinted at a strong, secret connection between Rockruff and the starters. Considering Rockruff’s “secret” is his split second stage, I find it unlikely that there would be another hidden aspect of these pokemon.
In fact, it’s quite possible that Rockruff is being used as an indirect teaser of what we can expect from the new starter trio.
I could be completely wrong too. Either way, I’m excited to see what we learn over the next couple months.
Highly doubt it will show forms in the main pokeball area of the pokedex, it will most likely be like the XY/ORAS pokedex and have different forms in a different tab.
I feel like most people didn’t understand that rockruffs evolution is still only one pokemon, so like, rockruffs page is most likely only going to be two pokeballs. Its like Meowstic only not gender but time based.
Funny after really taking a good look at the page for the anime I finally noticed that Kiawe is on it too. Not only is he in that tiny shot of the show, but for the poster he’s on top of Charizard. His body gets cut off too lol
I was wondering what that was lol.
Welp i’m officially out of grandparents
Sorry to hear that for what it’s worth it send my regards.
She’s been on death’s door for 3 years now, i’m very much aware
I’m sorry. 🙁 My condolences.
Oh, shoot… I’m really sorry.
Sorry to hear that man……It can be hard to lose family members….
My deepest condolences my friend 🙁
I’m so sorry.
You guys, I’ve noticed that besides the green haired girl we know is following Ash, the chubby boy and the blue haired girl, all in one pic are also his companions.
I know this because she gets popplio, and he has the regional electric rodent.
Their dynamic might be different if they are all attending the same academy, and green haired will likely be his closest friend. But I feel I’m sure of this.
I feel she or ash will also get Litten.
I knew from the first promo calendar he got Rowlet which is cool. Seems to be his froakie. Hopefully fully evolves.
Kiawe is also in the Poster and one of the anime pics. I doubt all of them will be his companions. I imagine it’s just Mallow and one other person. Maybe Lillie goes with them.
He’s traveled with 3 others 3 times now. Plus if blue haired gets a starter.. she definitely coming along for marketing, and they always give the electric rodent to a main character. This is how I know. If it’s a school.. then mallow may follow him 99% of the time and the rest 80%. But if it’s their pokemon.. they’re coming
True, but counting them all it’d be a group of 6. Himself, Lana, Mallow, Kiawe, Sophocles, and Lillie. That’s a bit too much if you ask me haahaha
No.. I’m only saying.. Ash, Green hair, Blue Hair, Yellow Hair boy.. and ove already explained why them not the rest
Oh sorry….lol Yeah I suppose….Idk if I’d like that though. I know he’s had at least two gym leaders with him before, but I like it when he just a has regular trainers to accompany him lol
Yeah, hopefully he will interact with his classmates well
I’m still not sure I believe he’s going to an actual “school”. It seems like an odd step for them to take. It’s one thing to have it be that he needs to learn the ropes as the trails are different than gyms, but having him actually attend a school seems strange and out of character. lol
The academy is behind them though
Not sure if anyone noticed but i tgink we “maybe” see the ice type trail captain as seen in the anime poster
Where? I you mean the blue haired girl on the far right next to Lapras’s head that just Lana the water trial captain.
Nm its lillie my bad :p the girl on the left behind lapras head with the alolan vulpix the angle shes at thru me off and yeah :p
Oh yeah that is Lillie. I think it’s due to her showing way more emotion compared to all the footage and art we’ve seen hahaha
Also the light blue on her attire did so as well 🙂 well if we ever battle her which i hope at some point same with the trail captians, lillie better have alolan vulpix
Huh….I didn’t notice that. I guess that’s one of those minor tweaks they make to the characters like inverting the colored stripes on Ash’s shirt compared to the trainer in the game lol
I actually didnt realize they inverted the stripes, i was wondering why it felt off to me 🙂
I kind of like it better on Ash. I feel like it works better with the colors swapped lol
Agreed 🙂 what i hope for is tbat team rocket isnt in ever episode it gets kinda old and samey when they are, yes there plans each episode were diffrent but always came down to catching pikachu -.- main reason why i stop watching the X&Y anime
Team Rocket should upgrade their uniform and were they not more fierce in B&W? Bring those Rockets back and double it up. Make them fight other evil teams like they did now in XYZ
They are obviously family…
Lusamine is the crazy sister that thinks she is doing things right but at the end, with
her “love for pokemon” she will screw up the everything.
Gladion is just the generation rival, he tries to be a bad guy but at the end he is just a revel that refuses to follow his family’s steps… but he is good. Like N.
Lillie is the responsible one and will try to fix her siblings mess.
Gladion kinda looks like UB02 Expansion I mean the spikes on the shoulders.
They are clearly siblings and clearly related to the UB’s
The male one does have red on him…. And he looks very angry just like UB02 exp.
When I saw the comparison between Gladion and Expansion I thought of the rip in Gladion being symbolism of his real body ripping out of the meat sack that is his disguise lol
Exactly! I thought that too but seemed farfetch’d to write it down. Thumbs up!
Oi where’s more info!
i grow weary from lacking new pokemon
Wednesday my friend Wednesday…….lol
http://img13.deviantart.net/3e1a/i/2016/256/4/6/pokemon_sun_and_moon_rowlet_evolution_prediction__by_shadragz-dahk4oq.jpg
I like it, except the navy blue around the eyes.
Ok it’s a prediction if u look at Rowlet final evo it like wearing navy blue helmet that’s y.
Too obvious…. ? [pic]
another proof, that pose! [pic]
Like….come on! Fair enough when we just had UB-01. Sure maybe people could have been reaching a bit, but now we have the UB-02’s and yet another is a dead ringer for a preexisting character?!?!?! That’s not coincidence that’s on purpose. They gotta be the UBs lol
I’m gonna postulate that we won’t be seeing starter evolutions until the game releases… Probably due to the leaks.
I mean just look what’s happening with the European releases due to that early street date thing. I kinda hope this is the case lol
UB-01 ??? : Lillie
UB-02 Beauty : Lusamine
UB-02 Expansion : Gladion
I honestly, think they are a family who is involved with the Ultra Beast. Gladion might see what his mother is doing as wrong so he joined Team Skull to stop it, while Lillie is indifferent. Let’s hope UB-03 is Lillie’s father!
I don’t think Lusamine is their mother….she looks WAY too young to have children in their preteens to teens. Either that or there are people who have some explaining to the police lol
They look their 13. Lusamine could easily be a mother and still look hot af.
Well fair enough, but honestly she doesn’t look that old to me. Old doesn’t equate lack of hotness lol
Have you not seen pokemoms? All of them look too young to have teens.
Not Delia Ketchum. She could pass as a mother lol (rf)
There is a 4chan leak suggesting UBs are from an alternate reality, where people and Pokemon are the same beings.
I doubt that UBE2 is Gladion. For one, the other ultra beasts are dead ringers for Lillie and Lusamine, but UBE2 looks little like Gladion. My theory is that the Aether foundation wanted to give UB forms to certain people, one being Gladion, but he fled because he didn’t want that.
Also there is literally no way Lusamine is old enough to have kids Lillie’s age. I know Pokemon parents often look young but this is way pushing it. I believe she is an older sister.
Ehh so I kinda came to the conclusion that the SuMo anime poster means jack shit. Its literally showing off the main characters, some of the new Pokemon and that Ash can use Z-moves.
Well yeah….the first piece of promo art for the anime is obviously not gonna show us anything substantial. The first XY art had Ash and the starters and Sycamore flying in the air above Lumiose tower. Obviously they can’t fly lol
Tell that to everybody on the internet. They act like this one poster says the entire anime turns out bad. Which is nowhere near fair
I think the real interesting stuff is the screenshots of the actual show. They may be blurry due to it being a pic of a small image, but the art looks like it’ll be crisp lol
I’m actually glad they’re giving Ash z-moves since he was denied mega evolution. Now he has a power he can carry on to different regions.
/yeah I agree. As far as megas go I understand why they didn’t give him one. It’s an incredibly powerful mechanic and would almost break the show for hi as he’s supposed to be the underdog.
And Ash Greninja isn’t show breaking? It’s pretty much mega levels of powerful. So he’s proof that giving him one is just fine.
Eh….well yeah I suppose it kind of is, but idk…..sense he wasn’t under control of it it seemed like less of something he could always spam….then again….lol
May even use megas if it does that also. What else could it show anime based?
I’d also like to clarify the rockruff evolution since there seems to be some confusion surrounding it. Pokebeach has already translated the page and the wording indeed implies that these are split evolutions. The exact wording being “The first page shows Rugarugan’s Midnight Form and states that Rockruff turns into this form when “met with the night’s power”. The second page shows Rugarugan’s Midday Form and that Rockruff “takes in the sun’s power to turn into this marvelous form”. The fact that it states that rockruff must be bathed in either the day’s or night’s energy implies that each will yield a different evolution. If it was simply a form change then the wording would instead state that Rugarugan would need to be bathed in either energy to change forms
That’s what I thought but then why do they have the same name? I mean, maybe they are just forms but they can’t change.
That’s exactly what they are.
Then why aren’t they seperate Pokemon? Maybe it’s just me but I feel like with all of the form changes we’re getting it seems GF doesn’t want to add too many new Pokemon.
They are the same pokemon though. You can even see they both have the same build, same face, but different features. It’s like Meowstic.
Ah that makes more sense. Good comparison.
I know, my mistake was saying separate evolutions… I mean it in the way that you won’t be able to change between the forms like everyone seems to think . When you have the midday form your stuck with it
As much as I don’t like agreeing with him. Joe Merrick made the point that maybe GF are a little nervous about hitting the 1000 milestone. It’d be the first time they’d be adding on an actual digit and they’d probably have to come up with something new to keep the number continuing to grow too far. Makes sense to me.
I don’t see why though, nothing wrong with surpassing 1000 other than trying to remember the names.
Personally I don’t see the problem with it. How would they stop the number from growing? They wouldn’t stop making new pokemon.
They could tho. Maybe that would be good for Pokemon. At least for a little while. Maybe make a new game and focus on the Pokemon we DO have instead of throwing even more at us. There are plenty of forgotten Pokemon that could get a lot of use if it wasn’t for the mad rush for the new Pokemon. Not saying I don’t like getting new mons, but it could be an interesting thing to do.
I’d compare it to wormadam whom also has different form but change from them.
That’s exactly what they are… Like wormadam… You can’t change wormadams forms can you?
its not a split evolution its like Meowstic, different but the same pokemon
And Wormadam
yes like bag head
I get that, however they will not be interchangeable. You won’t be able to change midday form into midnight form. They will “act” as separate evolutions in that they are distinct, but will act as forms in that they won’t take up two different pokedex slots
wasn’t that the point of my comment and dregoons though? no one said they would be interchangeable 😛 wormadam and meowstic are not
The reason I made the post was because most people were thinking you could change between the forms or it would just change automatically based on the time. Which is not the case
Oh, sorry, I didn’t see any of that so I didn’t think anyone actually thought that, sorry
Split forms I think is the better way to put it. Both are the same Pokemon, but they looks different due to certain conditions. Think Wormadam. Differ look, different typings/stats, but still the same Pokemon at the end of it all.
Same here, which is why they are referred to as “forms” and not separate evolutions. Like with your wormadam example, you can’t change between the wormadam forms. Here you would not be able to change between the rugarugan forms, just determine which one you get before it evolves
Yup. Another reason why the split forms for the starter evos is entirely possible hahaha
I’d love that, but I still think that the pokedex thing disproves it. Plus, why wouldn’t they reveal Rockruff’s secret the same time as the starters? Also if it’s true, I think the ones we know about are the night formes.
Probable due to the leak is my guess. Somewhat like a punishment lol. And the pokedex doesn’t disprove it at all. I said that they’d have the same pokedex slot just like wormadam does
I don’t think it’s to punish anyone….they never acknowledge leaks and even if they did it they wouldn’t do stuff to spite the people who plan on buying their games lol
I think they would. It would be a good deterrent.
They need to get through two layers of the starter evos tho. Rockruff seems to only have one evolution so it makes sense that they’d just do it on it’s own. I think that this Wednesday we’ll get the starters first evos and a teaser saying that they have a special kind of evolution. The finals would then be shown at a later date. Technically the official websites haven’t acknowledged the secret the four of them have yet. At least I don’t think they have. I doubt that means it’s insignificant, but that also means they have a lot of leeway with when they want to show said secret off.
I remember seeing this come up on bulbagarden rumor forums last month. https://imgur.com/G51FXm5
I’m still not sure whether I believe that supposed email. It came in with the rush of of a bunch of rumors and it could very well be fake. I believe there was another rumor that said the starter finals had different forms, but that was also still up in the air.
The NX has been delayed till 2018. Here’s a taste of whats to be expected on 3DS in 2017 (refresh)
HA! That’s lame enough to end up being a real thing hahaha
Makes sense. Don’t forget Super Smash Bros. for Wii U for 3DS.
Why expansion? I mean, I understand Beauty, but why call the other one expansion?
It makes shit loads of sense
Mosquitos + Expansion
IT DRAINS ENERGY AND ENGORGES ITSELF WITH POWAR!!!!!!!
Firstly: No starter evolutions – I told you so!
Beaty is nice, Expansion is hideous.
I’m really not sure what to make of them, they’re starting to ruin the vibe.
Rockruff’s evolution looks completely different from what I expected, but I light the daylight form. Also I had a feeling it wouldn’t be a split evolution. Having a form based on time of day makes more sense anyway since it means that its forms will be different in each version. Both forms are usable in both, but they will always be opposites.
Ash graduating from school? It’s about time.
Sounds kind of dull though.
“I finally won a pokemon league” vs “I finally graduated”
He won’t be able to graduate. Just watch.
So true.
And there will be like 3 filler episodes of ash studying for a test.
Can Ash even name all the pokemon? Last I checked he still needs to check on his pokedex to identify most of them.
I dont even think he’s actually going to a school. Its probably just the anime version of Island Challenges
If it’s anything like that god awful summer camp the anime had in the Hoenn region then I’ll pass.
I’m sure it’s all about pokemon, not math lol
How exactly are they (ultra beasts) ruining the vibe?
I kinda agree with pharap. They just feel like Ben 10 or Jenny the robot bad guys. Too sci fi even for Pokemon.
Isn’t pokemon kind of every kind of fiction?
Can’t say I agree with you. It’s sci fi/ fantasy but that’s about it -no horror, hardly any romance, you could call it action to an extent… Take orphan black for example. That show is sci fi and up until the fourth season it never really felt sci fi because it was grounded in characters and real life issues mixed with cloning. They tried to make a realistic sci fi- now compare that to something like Star Trek….
you can never have such a thing as too sci-fi or too fantasy, expand the horizons and run into infinity, open your mind and anything is possible
Pokemon has always felt like our world but with Pokemon instead of animals, and supernatural beings having a great influence. Beyond that, adding Pokemon human fusions, aliens, etc that aren’t Pokemon just complicates it and takes it in a different direction.
pokemon has never felt like our world imo, our world is too toxic and boring, the pokemon world is a magical fantasy place with beasts of immeasurable strengths and supernatural powers, I don’t see the issue, but I’m a person that embraces the unknown and the unfamiliar and have a creative mind constantly making up things that are not real but could be in mystical fantasy plans of exsistence.
There are two kinds of people in this world, realists and romantics, or rather, non-dreamers and dreamers, it does no harm to be a dreamer, but to be a non-dreamer, unyielding to change, well, that hinders you, you should always have a healthy skeptism of all things but should also ask, “what if?”
but its ok that we don’t see eye to eye kind stranger, let us not quarrel about things that will be forgotten in an hour <3
Lol I’m creative, don’t worry about that. I just realize moments when a series, any series, has possibly jumped the shark. I wouldn’t say gamefreak is there now, but it’s approaching.
“jumped the shark”
That is it in a nutshell.
Adding new things is fine, but only if they fit in with what already exists. It’s like how yugioh GX started to fall down when it decided to change from being about ancient gods and beings of darkness to being about aliens from another dimension. The more stuff you try to cram in, the more things break down because you don’t have enough explanation to glue it together.
You have a very over-simplified view of the world. Even the most rational scientists dream. They dream of new cures to diseases, new worlds to explore, new creatures to discover. Ask them to accept a god on pure faith however, and they will refuse.
over simplified? quite the opposite actually, I never said I accepted everything as true or based any of my opinions or beliefs on faith. But I know that science, while amazing and helpful to us, can always be refined and is always changing, even evolution (which I believe in) is just a theory, we don’t have definitive proof. Please read my last response to you, it may help you see where I am coming from.
No, what you said was “There are two kinds of people in this world, realists and romantics”, which is a very narrow view to have.
I’d argue that legendary pokemon aren’t supernatural, rather in the world of pokemon they are natural. Even ghost types are just ‘animals’, they aren’t really dead. Arceus isn’t a god, just a powerful pokemon.
So yeah, I completely agree adding fusions, non-pokemon aliens etc does complicate things. Mega evolutions were fair enough because they were somewhat explainable with existing knowledge.
I have a horrible feeling the UBs are just going to be something gimmicky and deus ex machina. UB01 gave me confidence, Beaty is still within the realms of understanding, but Expansion is begining to make me worry.
You have to stay within reason or the suspension of disbelief breaks down. For example if humans were to just start flying with no explanation and nobody batted an eyelid you’d slip from scifi into the realm of the surreal.
I don’t mean to be rude but, you can literally catch God in a baseball sized metal ball in this same series. A metal ball who’s technology has never been properly or officially explained… What reason are you referring to? Because in my opinion nothing is out of the range of reason after that… 😛
Arceus isn’t a god, it’s a beast but one with limited power. If it were truly a god it wouldn’t be defeated and captured so easily.
I grant you that pokeballs have never been fully explained, but they’ve been established since the begining and the science of the pokemon world follows a certain amount of reason. For example pokeballs do not work on people or buildings, it is not possible to capture an entire town inside a pokeball, things like that.
Limitations are at the core of any scifi series, they exist to prevent the plot from degrading into realms beyond its scope. For example, if aliens suddenly turned up on harry potter and all the wizards had to start fighting aliens, that would be beyond the scope of the story.
It’s classification is the Alpha pokemon… That’s one of the was people refer to God in the real world… Arceus IS a god… It is THE god. It created the beings that created the universe and the earth. Please explain to me how it isn’t a god..? Because literally every single creation story on earth (and all creation stories deal with Gods of some kind), goes pretty much just like that .
My point was that the games are already unreasonable because you can catch and defeat god so easily but that’s more a gameplay and mechanics thing than a world building type of thing. It’s an issue I’ve always had with legend arise in game. Nothing about them feels legendary
anything can be sci-fi because nothing in science is really proven. there is no such thing as a scientific proof.
“Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to theories for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science.
Proofs have two features that do not exist in science: They are final, and they are binary. Once a theorem is proven, it will forever be true and there will be nothing in the future that will threaten its status as a proven theorem (unless a flaw is discovered in the proof). Apart from a discovery of an error, a proven theorem will forever and always be a proven theorem.
In contrast, all scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives. Its status as the accepted theory is contingent on what other theories are available and might suddenly change tomorrow if there appears a better theory or new evidence that might challenge the accepted theory. No knowledge or theory (which embodies scientific knowledge) is final. That, by the way, is why science is so much fun.
Further, proofs, like pregnancy, are binary; a mathematical proposition is either proven (in which case it becomes a theorem) or not (in which case it remains a conjecture until it is proven). There is nothing in between. A theorem cannot be kind of proven or almost proven. These are the same as unproven.
In contrast, there is no such binary evaluation of scientific theories. Scientific theories are neither absolutely false nor absolutely true. They are always somewhere in between. Some theories are better, more credible, and more accepted than others. There is always more, more credible, and better evidence for some theories than others. It is a matter of more or less, not either/or. For example, experimental evidence is better and more credible than correlational evidence, but even the former cannot prove a theory; it only provides very strong evidence for the theory and against its alternatives.
The knowledge that there is no such thing as a scientific proof should give you a very easy way to tell real scientists from hacks and wannabes. Real scientists never use the words “scientific proofs,” because they know no such thing exists. Anyone who uses the words “proof,” “prove” and “proven” in their discussion of science is not a real scientist.” -Satoshi Kanazawa
TL;DR : Anything is possible.
That doesn’t mean anything is possible, that just means nothing can be proven.
Things in science can however be disproven. It’s called ‘falsifiability’ or ‘refutability’. Things that are falsifiable are scientific, things that are unable to be falsified are forms of pseudoscience.
Also the beliefs of one man are not representative of the entire scientific community, especially one who isn’t a scientist.
He’s a psychologist, not a scientist. Psychology is a pseudoscience. And before you try to refute that, I have a qualification in psychology, every teacher I had openly admitted psychology is a pseudoscience, that’s a well established fact.
Also I’d be wary of him if he believes “African countries suffer chronic poverty and illness because their people have lower IQs”.
hes not the only one to have this view he just has the best wording to describe it, in fact this is taught in every psychology of science course in the universities in my country, and it doesn’t matter if its a pseudo science or not, I’m not talking about the science, but the concept presented here, its pretty much accepted all across the board considering we as a human race once thought that bleeding people would help fight diseases.
My point is, don’t be so quick to dismiss something, heck we could find out tomorrow that magic truly did exist/still exists but that it is the result of some unseen particle that requires certain chemical reactions to manifest. not saying it is just giving an example, and I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just merely trying to express my point that you shouldn’t be so closed minded, skeptical yes, but not to totally reject an idea as unfounded when it really isn’t in this situation.
But I know that people on the internet like to fluff their egos and come away as always right and having that last word, so go ahead, I won’t press the matter further, just hoping that in the future more people will approach things with an open mind…
Yes, but in the day of leeches science wasn’t really the way things were done. They did alchemy instead and they didn’t really test theories, they just came up with a belief and stuck with it rather than the modern approach of strong empirical testing.
Finding a new particle that makes new things possible is believeable, but magic suddenly happening is not. Science does not create new things, it examines what is already possible and seeks ways to explain them and new ways to harness these natural phenomena that can benefit mankind.
To that I say only this:
What if I told you I’m not human?
You wouldn’t believe it would you?
I feel like that’s literally the point tho…? Ultra Beasts aren’t supposed to be pokemon or humans… Therefore they have to look alien. They are from a different dimension after all
Just cuz they fit the direction the company wanted to take it, doesn’t mean we have to like it.
I didn’t say you had to. I was saying that it clearly isn’t too “sci-fi” for pokemon because they did it. We don’t define the outlines and parameters as fans… Gamefreak does. As you said, it is simply up to us to either like or dislike it.
That’s my point tho. I accept that they did it, but it can still feel out of character.
They feel too much like Dokutsu-style super heroes/villains.
Almost every pokemon has a similar vibe, they’re cutesy or tough and they feel like animals, even some of the humanoid ones. The UBs don’t give the same impression. They’re drawn in a different style, they have different rules to their design. As @Rockcrawdaunt:disqus notes, they seem more sinister, more alien (more alien than Deoxys or Elgyem even).
Also pokejungle redecorated, and I’m not sure I like it, now the bacground is somewhat pixellated and the bright red and blue are distracting.
The what?
Image:
http://i.imgur.com/yoHAQSP.png
Oh lol. I’m on mobile, I don’t have those.
Good, they’re hideous.
Ok you guys…
The Rumors with the great artist…
False!
I compared and they are Completely wrong… Dunno if anyone else has
The only thing I want from this rumor is the lava pig.
Too bad it’s fake lol
I want water growlithe!!!
If water growlithe is a thing, I’m giving up and going home.
Umm.. ok. Don’t know why fire cubone evo is ok but not water growlithe.. but ok
Because water would be the complete opposite of fire. Fire isn’t the opposite of ground. I’m still upset that Marowak is Fire-Ghost and not Fire-Ground though.
Yea. I expected the leaks to be fake from the starter when it started to mention Synchro Evolution.
Oh and I think we see Ash’s pikipek and hopefully litten to Mallow for cooking
I doubt it, Mallow owns the Rowlet. (Grass type trainers, go figure).
I thought Ash was going to get Rowlet as it was right next to him. Luna is getting Poppilo and it seems like she just has Bounsweet or Litten.
Yes. I hope she gets litten to cook.. don’t want with ash..
If it becomes a wrestling tiger ash is more likely to get it because it’ll remind him of Hawlucha.
She obviously has Bounsweet, but she’ll have more than one pokemon.
It’s Lana by the way, not Luna.
I agree she might get popplio but I’m starting to think the starters are just there for the sake of it and it’s not actually reflective of who actually owns them.
No… They carefully placed everything. And in the little window showing an actual clip from an episode it has them all holding their pokemon. That’s why we are saying it so confidently.
Ah good, so Mallow isn’t holing Litten, that makes everything better.
No…. She has the bounsweet.. Or what’s it called on her head. He gets rowlet quite obviously. It’s highlighted beside him
The Rowlet is just as close to Mallow as it is Ash, and the Litten is closer to Ash than it is to mallow.
No… No it’s not. It’s literally on his back. Highlighted.. only he pikachu and Rowlet are highlighted. This is now a Fact.
What we said about litten was just wishful thinking.
*literally
Either way Mallow probably won’t get Litten, which if the wrestling form is true, is what I’m hoping for.
Probably not. I just don’t want Ash with it for some reason..
Him owning it would make sense if the wrestling form is true.
And it wouldn’t be the first time he’s had more than one starter.
Lillie has an Alolan Vulpix. Huh.
Would be fitting.
Unless they’re trying to get her to replace Brock.
Here’s hoping. It would be nice to have her as the breeder representative.
But I like Brock ; n ;
Lillie seems too meek, and she hates pokemon battles so it wouldn’t make sense for her to follow Ash if he’s going to be doing lots of battling.
Unless my worst nightmare comes true and they turn it into a slice-of-life anime.
Lillie seems like she’s a bad ass to me, she stands up for what she believes in and that is a trait that will never let you back down
She’d spend most of her time trying to stop ash from making his pokemon battle, it would be a waste of time.
I see no problem with a narrative on alternative ways of thinking in the anime, it could be a great build up to an understanding and a growth on both their parts
If it’s an occaisional thing, yes, but not if every episode is “no Ash battling is wrong, stop hurting pokemon”. If Lillie followed Ash around despite hating pokemon battles, it would be like a pacifist joining up with a murderer or a religion hating aethiest going on a journey with a priest.
I like Brock as well, but he’s long gone at this point. having Lillie be the voice of a sort of a peaceful way to play pokemon could be interesting. Then again we really know next to nothing about what’s coming with the Anime. Who knows.
I can live with Brock being gone, but Lilly would be a horrible replacement. Mallow’s much more suited to that role.
Lillie’s ‘peaceful’ way is by not battling, which would kind of defeat the point of things. It’s one thing to hate battling, it’s another to try to stop everyone from battling.
It suites her rather well. If we battle her in-game, I could see her using one.
Anyone else concerned at how big bewear is compared to Jessie and James?
I was expecting a little 3 foot thing, not something the size of a real bear DX
Dude the thing is nearly 7ft tall
*checks website*
6’11”
Woops. Bewear is suddenly 10 times scarier. XD
I was literally about to say the same thing lol
I never checked the sizes, I just guess based on in game animations. It usually works fine 😛
Lol no I understand! But Sun and Moon have pretty much thrown all of our established knowledge of the tropes of the series
Not when it comes to new pokemon, so far most of the new pokemon have been what pretty much I expected.
Just alolans, ultra beasts and the plotline that are going crazy.
No it’s been known since it was posted on .com
I knew the height was there, but I never bother to read the heights, I just guess based on the in-game footage.
Nah man it’s almost 7 feet tall hahaha And I’m gonna have one on my team!!! lol
I know it is.
And it’s amazing lol
Heck yeah me too!
Least Rockruff’s evo has Rocky spikes on its neck which I wanted
I bet they glow and energize to use moves like Rock Blast and Stone Edge
And if this thing doesn’t learn Rock Blast I’m going to be so annoyed
Wait. Serebii said that Rockruff’s evolution is solely dependent on when you evolve it, either Day or Night. Yet, PokeJungle says it changes forms based on the time of day. Which is correct or is that just an oversight?
Pokebeach, (which has the pages fully translated) is saying the same thing as serebii if that helps
Part of me hopes they’re just forms because that would be cooler, but if the change is permenant I’m glad I’m getting Sun.
I don’t think so as other sites list it as just a night and day evolution. Also, it’s a night and day evolution what version you get doesn’t matter. The time in Moon is only offset by 12 Hours.
I can still hope until it’s completely confirmed.
Yeah, but it’ll be much easier to get in sun.
If it were in moon I’d have to wait until nighttime to evolve it into its day form.
or you could just change the 3DS clock… but yes, it is easier to get in Sun.
Oh Yeah. .. ?
Moon players could do this to play the “Normal” way from the start
I plan on offsetting my clock to play the game during to the day after the start. I love the night, but I love how the day looks in Pokemon games.
why would anyone want to though? or is it just me that would rather a life under the moon and finds sunlight arbitrary. Honestly irl I only have energy at night and on overcast days, when the sun is out it drains my energy and puts me to sleep
to get Rockruff’s Midday Form…
……… fair…. its honestly gorgeous, but the night form is also cool, but since I’m a night owl I will be able to get the day form in moon no problem at all
Or you could get Sun and become nocturnal. I’m getting Sun to try to help cure my nocturnal nature.
Change the 3DS clock, then you have to play Animal Crossing at night.
Plus changing the clock messes up some things that are time based like that badge game (last time I checked anyway).
I’m pretty sure it’s a form dependent on the time of day. It is one Pokemon after all. Also, I keep reading your comments on Studio Q’s channel. I’m everywhere 😉
I recently subbed to him. 😉 My face is plastered on a bunch of Youtube comments. What do you think about the NX so far? You think Nintendo might announce a reveal date tomorrow?
So did I. Very nice presentation of info. Yes, I believe he is telling the truth about NX info tomorrow. Nintendo would not condone a trusty spokesperson pretending to leak NX info. I think this is all part of a master ruse.
I thinks its more of a evolution based on the type of day. Kinda similar to how Wormadam worked depending on the location. Same Pokemon, just different variants
I hope lillie with a Pokemon means what I’ve been hoping.. the UB’s are not pokemon to battle with or catch.. just rivals
Lillie isn’t UB-01…yes, they look similar, and I’m sure there is some connection there. But they aren’t the same thing.
K.
Originally it was my suspicion that they were just creatures from an alternate dimension, similar to pokemon but they don’t battle.
Looking at them now I think that’s looking true except for the part about battling, I think they’ll pose a threat that has to be eradicated by battling them.
Why am I the only one shocked.. the artist who put hours into trying to seem believable was such a flying flipping fraud!
Are they discussing this on 4 chan? Where? Ugh.. . -,-
Because the artist had nothing to lose. If their true, then they managed to leak some information and show off their art. If their liars, they get to show off their art and grow their following. Its a win win for them.
Except now I’m never going to follow them because of the deception. If they’d just said “hey look, art” I’d have been tempted to.
(I never believed the leak for a moment though, despite some of the designs being cool)
You’re the only one shocked because it was 100% obviously fake from the start. It said there was only 4 totem Pokemon, which is a blatant lie.
K..
I think there is a Totem Pokemon for every Trial Captain. This means that there is a Normal-Type Trial Captain on Melemele Island.
Yes, that is how it works.
I liked the Alolan Arcanine design. I knew it was fake way ahead of this. Especially after those Pokemon were not revealed during the announcement that week.
I’m completely in the dark, what’s going on?
He’s shocked because Rugarugan proves the Artleaka designs fake.
The artist drawing of rockruff evo was completely off
Hey I saw this earlier by couldn’t post but I want to say it now The starter trio can still have split Evolutions cause it’s really not two Evos. It’s one Pokemon with two different forms knowing that only one name is listed for Rockruff and we have two forms meaning we can still have split forms for the starters.
I’m Mega Skeptile.
Booooooooooo! Get out of here! lol
Let’s see what you got. I challenge you to a PokePun battle!
I get it now ? besides Rockruff shares its secret with starters so this is the best we got!
So do you guys believe that version-exclusive Ultra Beasts are indicative of their ability to be captured, or will the story just be slightly different?
I’m 100% sure you could catch them at some point. Their supposed to be Pokemon, so I’m sure Pokeballs will still work on them. Also, that furthers the point that they could be captured. Why create version exclusives without trying to make people trade?
No they aren’t supposed to be Pokemon. They’ve been very careful about that, not once calling them Pokemon.
I thought about it the same way. It would be really cool to have legendaries that are even more “legendary”!
True. These guys literally come from another dimension. S/M might have a story that beats B/W if it’s done properly!
They aren’t Pokemon as far as we know them. They aren’t in the “Pokemon” section of the website.
I know that. I should rephrase myself a bit. I’m inferring that they are Pokemon in capacity of their dimension. Basically, my point is that you could capture them. Hell, we’re able to fight them in battle too, so why not catch these awesome looking beasts as well!
We don’t know for sure if we can battle them. The part in Corocoro is clearly a cutscene. Also, it wouldn’t be the first time you battle something in Pokemon without being able to catch it, or without it being a Pokemon.
I don’t think you’d be able to capture them. If it has a connection to Lillie it’d feel weird. Plus they’ve said that their power is too strong for people or something I think.
You need a Special Pokeball to catch them…. maybe?
I’m still on the fence. Regardless of them being characters like Lillie or not I can’t see them being capture-able. They definitely have a different look compared to the Pokemon we’ve known. I just can’t see myself throwing a Pokeball and having UB-02 Beauty coming out. I love the concept of UBs tho either way lol
I’m saying different story. Also why is nobody talking about the fact that they are facing off with Tapu Koko? That seems interesting to me.
I think it shows how they have descended to the mortal plane. AKA, they became Pokemon in some way.
Or it’s just fighting Tapu Koko…
Yes, it’s an extra dimensional being which is now fighting a Pokemon when it can easily phase it out of existence. In theory.
Why would it be able to do that? Just because it came from another dimension doesn’t mean it’s some all-powerful deity.
We’re in another dimension compared to them, but can we transfer dimensions naturally? I don’t think so. I’m just spitballing here for fun.
More like grasping at straws :p
We don’t know if we can or not, nobody’s tried to do it before.
Giratina transefered the player to a different dimension in Platinum after all.
I doubt it can phase out of existance like that. UB01 needed a portal to come through, creating a portal probably takes up a lot of energy.
My theory is that they were created as artificial island guardians to replace the Tapu family.
It was kinda predictable, that’s why. UBs are creatures from another dimension that are a threat to humans and Pokemon, and Tapu Koko is the Guardian of Melemele Island. Makes sense for them to fight.
But why that one? The story is exciting me so much right now, for once it’s unpredictable.
I’m sure all the Guardians will fight UBs at some point.
Hala v.s. UB-01
Hala- Go Crabrawler!
*gets one hit KO’d*
Hala- I’m not done yet!
“To be continued…”
Holy crap I’ve had that in the back of my mind this entire day! I would love if they had more cinema scenes!!! Can you imagine the final battles where the Tapu’s are fighting the UBS?!?!?! lol
S/M is about to take the cake for cutscenes. I could already feel it now!
I know! It’s going to be great, especially with the story.
Like seriously. They’ve already shown us that they can do decent cut scenes and now with this updated engine they could do some awesome stuff. Obviously not as great if it were on a better system, but I digress hahaha
I hadn’t noticed because the scan is at a weird angle and that panel is half buried in shadow.
It’s starting to look like they’re the villains, which looks good for my Skull-Aether teamup theory 😛
I hope that Ash and Lana both get a Popplio
Lol… Popplio party
My guess is Ash is with Rowlet, Lana gets Popplio, and Mallow gets Litten for cooking up some food!
My guess is Ash gets Popplio and Litten, while Mallow gets Rowlet.
I feel Ash should have them all I mean cause imo these are the best starters slightly beating Sinnoh out of lead and I would enjoy them all
Probably only going to be Lana.
I guess I’m the only one here who likes the midnight form of Rugarugan… Oh well lol
It’s the arms
Same as Zoroarks
That’s how I saw it, and I love Zoroark. In fact Lucario also has the arm thing going on but not as prominent. I really hope this thing has comparable power to those two because then I could have a trinity of bipedal one stage canine badass pokemon lol
I’m begining to notice a pattern in the way they’re starting to design claws. They seem to be slipping into that weird style of making the base really bulbous and making it really obvious that the claw protrudes rather than trying to make them streamline.
No… I like it too. I haven’t seen any complaints
Your not alone. I like it a lot.
It’s my preferred one, actually.
I love them both. I’ll have a hard time deciding which one I want if I end up using it on my team lol
Ditto for me.
I enjoy it but prefer the other my friends agree with you completely though
I love both of them, like Sunny, I just prefer the day one over the night one just a bit more. Plus I’m naming the one on my team after my late dog, Sox, and I think he looks more like the day one than the night one xD
Do you think that UB-01 is trying to scape from the UB-02s ? It looks inoffensive to me. I think he is trying to look for help so that’s why it appears to the protagonist.
“While evidence of something like a survival instinct can be observed in UB-01… one knows whether it has a will of its own or any emotions.”
I could see UB-01 being the outlier of the UBs. Maybe the rest of them are aggressive and UB-01 is nice and befriends the main characters.
Midnight form of Rugarugan looks like an edgy Sonic OC so I’ll probably go with the day evolution.
Same, I like the cute husky vibe.
I’d be ok with the dark one if its tail fur hadn’t suddenly climbed up its back and taken over XD
Every time I read or say Rurarugan’s name I instantly think of the Hollow Runuganga from Bleach lol (rf)
lol I loved the series!
Somehow UB-s remind me of the hollows
Ok guys is it normal when someone likes the dark side? Like the evil side. I feel that way. But I’m not mean or bad. For some reason I like these Evil Theme Pokemon like this midnight form for Rockruff evolution. And I like the Bad teams, especially Team Plasma, I don’t know. But the only thing I really want to know is if someone likes the dark/evil side like me? (weird question xD)
It seems like your making the renegade/puckish rogue argument. Your not in favor of the ideals of most evil sides, but you like their methods and styles. Think dead pool in a sense. He’s a murderer countless times over who has done some really messed up things, but at his core he is a good guy who tries to do the right thing, and has actually gone out of his way to get people the help they need, the brute force cross over of his being my go to example of that.
Ok that makes sense, and yes I really like the evil teams methods and styles, and I feel like I could be a member of it.
And yes about that stuff of dead pool, looks like I feel that way. (sry but im kinda bad at english, i wish i could be better)
Your English is fine. Quite good in fact.
There are no evil pokemon, only evil trainers.
If Meowth is to be believed anyway.
I’m going to assume Ash’s new companion, aside from Mallow, is going to be Lillie, based on how she is on the page with them.
Could be Lana or Sophocles though, they’re both there and both in the little box on the left.
The name of the Pokémon Rockruff evolves into is Lugarugan and has a different appearance based on if it evolves in Day or in Night. It notes that Rockruff becomes the Midday Form when bathed in the rays of the sun and when full of the night’s power, it becomes the Midnight Form. (Got all that from Serebii)
So I’m guessing day Lugarugan is possibly pure rock type and night Lugarugan is Rock/Dark.
Dear God I hope it has a better name than that
Am I the only one reminded of Garurumon? (name-wise?). I’m assuming there’s some Japanese etymological reasoning for the name Lugarugan.
EDIT: Looked into it. Garurumon is “derived from the onomatopoeia for a wolf’s growl (ガルルル Garururu?)” … so that at explains the GARU part of Lugarugan, maybe…
It’s not a bad name. It’s derived from a french myth about a werewolf creature.
You mean Loup garou?
I believe the rugaru/rougarou is derived from legend of the loup garou.
The ru would need a hypen after it to match the sound garou makes, but it might be clearer in the English names.
It’s plausible but I’m sceptical of that explanation.
Yeah, idk. I think it will be something bearing resemblance to “rugaru” though.
I hope not, I want a cooler name than that.
Lugarugan is so stupid sounding though…
Well I doubt it’ll keep the Japanese name exactly.
Arceus help us all
http://i.imgur.com/FxuwEkI.jpg
Honestly I think its just a bad art image more then anything. But who knows. Ash’s design has changed a lot over the years.
It’s the grin, it’s throwing me off O.o
you do realize its just a poster and he’s just cracking that goofy grin while doing a Z pose
It’s just the grin. I think the Sun and Moon anime will have some series and deep moments with Team Skull, the Aether Foundation, and the Ultra Beast. They could potentially make a heartwarming anime if they try hard enough. I honestly think introducing a new protagonist would have been better.
Or they could get it horribly wrong and make a complete disaster of it.
I agree that it’s time they started thinking about scrapping Ash.
Somehow they made a masterpiece out of XY’s lackluster plot, so I think they have plenty to work with in Alola.
Yeah, but production changes hands, new directors and writers get involved etc.
Also,they changed the plot away from what it was in the game for XY, they might attempt the same with SM and fail miserably.
I don’t know, I kind of like it. It looks like it’ll be very different, and I like different when it comes to the almost-always formulaic franchise.
I think Ash and Pikachu are cringing at having to pull that stupid pose.
*pulls out walking stick*
“Back in my day we didn’t have to do stupid poses to unleash cool attacks”
All Ashes from gens 1-6, Gen 7 Ash looks like Gen 1 Ash
They changed the art style quite a bit. He never originally had red eyes for example.
Yeah, But now Gen 7’s Ash has the eyes of Gen 1’s Ash 😀
And the smile of a guy high on drugs.
o-o; ok
The only thing that consistent is the 2 fuzzy swirls they put on his checks . XD
Yeah, never understood what they were supposed to be. Either he’s got weird scars or his face is always dirty.
Really hate the cargo pants look. His jeans from gen 1 are so much cooler
I hate all forms of denim indescriminately.
So how are people’s team looking? I know it would change when the Full Dex is released. I plan on only using New Pokemon and Alolan Forms for my first playthrough. My starter will be Rowlet or Litten first. I plan on using Pikipek, Rockruff, Grubbin or Alolan Raichu, Jangmo-o, Alolan Vulpix or Alolan Sandshrew, Alolan Exeggutor, and Type: Null. Obviously nothing concrete, but just some ideas.
I’m split on Salandit or Rockruff:Day for my sixth pokemon
Subject to change:
Sun:
– Rowlet
– Mimikyu
– Salandit
– Oricorio
– Stufful
– Type: Null
Moon:
– Popplio/Litten (not sure)
– Raichu
– Minior
Moon: Litten, Lurantis, Wishiwashi, Palossand, Jangmo-o, and Minior.
Sun: (all Alolan) Exeggutor, Marowak, Raichu, and Raticate.
nothing’s changed
I honestly don’t know. I have too many maybes, and I honestly just wanna wait until a couple of weeks before release, probably at the start of November, before I really sit down and look at the options
Truly the best answer.
Rowlet, Rockruff (Day), Vikavolt
Popplio iff Popplio 3 is real
Komala + Mimikyu if it has an evo
Possibly Oricorio (Baile/Sensu), else Pikipek
Probably Jangmo-o
Going all Alolan pokemon. So far….
Rowlet
Bewear
Jangmo-o
Moon:
-Mimikyu
-Salandit
-Popplio/Rowlet (Depends on what Popplio’s final typing is)
-???/Wishiwashi (If I choose Rowlet I will probably go with Wishiwashi as a water type and I am not sure what would be my 4th Pokemon would be if I chose Popplio)
Sun:
Sun will be my second run, so whatever Pokemon that I liked in Moon but couldn’t use because I am sticking to 6 Pokemon, I will probably use in this one.
I made this so you can start pulling your hair out. It’s just days because I don’t want timezone issues. https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161118T00&p0=605&msg=Pokemon+Sun+and+Pokemon+Moon+Release&ud=2&font=hand
67 days….man, I am surprised. That doesn’t feel too far away, but it really is
Does anyone know a list of what colors Minior is available in? I really want a green one if one exists.
I know there is a green at least. Personally I want a blue or red.
Awesome, thank you!
There is a green one. I think the colours are pink, green, blue, yellow, and purple.
I thought there was red?
all i want to know if they’re gonna barely give it any Flying moves other then bounce and acrobatics
Wing attack duh.
it ain’t got no wings jack
Its evolution will have wings and be Fire/Fighting.
*Tosses you out a three story window*
Minior will swoop in on its majestic wings to save me.
*RPG*
Glorious XD
The new soar pokemon is Minior.
Hurricane? maybe
Air Cutter, Aerial Ace, Gust…
Aerial ace yeah but the others aren’t happen it should’ve been pure rock
it being Flying offers little defense to it
Aeroblast, Air Slash, Tailwind
Pink, Yellow, Green, Blue, Orange and Purple
Pink, Green, Orangey Yellow, Blue and Purple.
As per the trailer:
https://youtu.be/Iaav6J6XzFs?t=3m12s
I believe Ash is ready to fail again in Alola, it will be fun to see his worst in every chapter.
WOAH! I just realized that I have a 9 day break from school starting the 19th of november! Such convenient timing, a whole nine days free from school to fully enjoy the game interuption free! This is probably the most lucky thing that’s happened to me in like a year, wow! 😀
me i’m going to call sick the whole weekend and play Sun in my room in a big armchair with a big bag of cherries, a gallon of water and without clothes
A winner is you.
damn right
I really will have to restrain myself from calling in sick as well. I mean its a few months out, but I don’t want to get in trouble. Especially if they need me to stay in shop that Saturday.
well i don’t care one bit about your problems
Nor would I ask you to.
Don’t call in sick, schedule a leave. It’ll be official and since you gave it months in advance they have time to prepare subs.
I can’t. No vacation time since I started so late into the year.
Ah, new job. Yeah no leave for new hires. 🙁
Nice visual..
I already got the weekend off to play! Put in a request off from work for the Friday and Saturday back in like July. lol I have Sundays off anyway so that makes the whole weekend lol
Sounds like something I would do
That image is now burned into my hippocampus so I’m going to go fetch the bleach.
Oh being in lower education….not having a job and when it’s time for vacation you really don’t have to do anything……I truly truly miss it……..lol
I’ll be sure to enjoy it. 🙂
You be sure to!!!! Because once it’s gone it’s gone and you can’t get it back!! lol
What lower education I’m in tenth grade and I will never work at this age Yay being a introvert!
I once tried to start an introvert club, but no one showed up. 🙁
I’d be surprised if I made one for Pokemon of what I see soooo many people at my school like Pokemon but mostly just Go
I would, but I’m too afraid of failure. ;_;
I’d make a pokemon club but the entrance test would be to name 200 pokemon and own one of the main games.
Wouldn’t a Pokemon club be the best way to introduce Goers and Shufflers to the main series?
Only if you ban them playing those things whilst at the club.
Also I find the idea that some people might only play Pokemon Shuffle to be a very odd one.
That seems incredibly limiting though. I bet they’d leave before they’ll get “coerced” to play the main series…
Also, since Shuffle is out on mobile and not everyone can take walks, yes, those people exist. Heh heh heh.
Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Rumble, Battle Revolution. What’s limiting about dropping two games? Besides, it’s tough love, they’d thank me for it afterwards.
Oh dear, I forgot about that.
Every day that goes by makes me hate phone apps more and more.
None of MD, Ranger, Rumble and Battle Revo count as main series games though.
Most phone apps are trash but there are diamonds in the rough. (BTW, Reigns is good, buy Reigns.)
Anything on a Nintendo console is infinitely more canon than a phone game.
Not buying phone apps. Game consoles are for games, phones are for texting and calling people, and occaisionally a clock when your watch is in for repair.
I’d be happy to get anyone. At my school people call out pokemon for being a “baby game”. I know one guy who plays the main series games, but that’s it; the rest of them insult pokemon.
That’s how it was when I was at school too.
That’s how it always will be.
When kids become teenagers they’re desparate to prove that they’re mature so they start abandoning things associated with youth and pretending they don’t like them. They also start trying to watch dark and edgy adult stuff to prove they’re cool (I remember lots of people were obsessed with true blood when I was in school). It’s kind of sad really.
I know it as well as anybody. My brother is a sixth grader and is the only boy in the class that doesn’t play grand theft auto. I don’t understand it myself, if something makes you happy, why would you give it up just to prove (but not really) maturity? Either way, hopefully it tapers off and I start meeting people who actually like pokemon again soon.
“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis
“I became a man as soon as I stopped wanting to be one.” xD
That’s actually a really good quote though, something I believe most of my classmates could learn. They curse, brag about how many types of drugs they’ve used (even though most of them are lying) and down talk things like pokemon just to feel grown up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=868fv8-wRN0
I have also never played GTA, and I’m in my 20s. That’s partly down to my parents’ rulings, but even when I was the age where I could have played it I chose not to.
I met people who liked pokemon, but I was doing a qualification in game design so I would have been worried if I hadn’t lol
The sad part is that I bet more than half of those people who dismissed pokemon as childish, are currently or were currently playing Pokemon Go when it came out in the summer.
And if you ask them why they are playing it, they probably would give you some excuse such as everyone else is playing it or that pokemon is suddenly “cool” now.
That’s one of my main reasons for hating pokemon go. A lot of the people playing it are playing it because it’s popular, not because they actually like pokemon.
Or maybe to make it less time consuming, name 5 non starter pokemon from each generation.
That’s too easy, must be at least 50-100. 200 is less than you think. To put things into perspective, including alolans and discounting ones we are aware of but don’t have an English name for, Alola has 51 pokemon so far.
Personally I’d be willing to attempt to name all 720 in one sitting. (And maybe the new ones too).
I’d accept that challenge anyday, as long as I was given a template so I could see where the ones I was missing where. I’d probably miss like 20 though lol.
I’m quite confident I’d get pretty much all of them, even if it takes longer than expected.
I can never remember the numbers though, just the names.
tbh I wish I had a better paying job when I was in HS. A lot of my friends were tutors, so they were making a lot more money than me. I really only had a summer job that I got paid for, the rest was just secretarial stuff that I’d only do occasionally.
With that said, I really lucked out on the fact that I don’t have to pay for college. If I did, idk where I’d be right now
Of course without interupption I’ll blow through the game in like 2 days, but it’ll be a blast nonetheless. Then I can get started on my living dex, a task that I’ve never attempted until this game.
Wait how do you get 9 days off? Special holidays or your just deciding screw it I’m done
Sounds like year-round schooling to me.
Oh that makes sense.
Or maybe not! I only get 4 days off for Thanksgiving
19-20th – weekend
21-22nd – juniors have a retreat, so the whole school is off (except for them obviously)
23-25th – thanksgiving break
26-27th – weekend
—-
Basically a bunch of convienient timing.
I have a 5 day weekend for Thanksgiving and I might just convince my parents that if I have good grades to skip both to make it the same as yours
Good luck with trying to convince your parents, but a 2 day week is stil pretty nice.
True
Getting more than one day off for a one day event is confusing.
The retreat is two days, but I’ve always gotten the Wednesday through Friday off for Thanksgiving.
I meant the latter, it’s kind of obvious that the retreat is more than one day.
Not sure what a ‘retreat’ entails though. The last retreat I heard of involved dodging a hail of bullets.
I just realized that Hala uses a Crabrawler as one of his Pokemon. I didn’t finish watching the Japanese Trailer as I thought it was all old info. I love seeing that Z-Ring on his wrist though! (Also, can I just say that Sun/Moon have the best move animations ever created!)
i love the ancient rock animation and i cant wait to see draco meteor
No surprise there. At E3 they said one of the main focus of the game was better fluid animations. And my God have they delivered so far.
link?
It’s not that hard to find if you just go on the official japanese channel and flick through the trailers.
https://youtu.be/YR1ssSZfoGY?t=4m24s
Oh god why lmao (rf)
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/136/537/bb6.png
I want this to be its shiny, so mesmerizing
I would approve. I bet it’s the first shiny that will be spoiled and we’ll find out if this is the coloration (unlikely tho).
Yes sadly unlikely :'(
Unless they are gonna deliberately reference it. BTW have more…
http://img07.deviantart.net/ad07/i/2016/167/d/3/mayor_dewey_meet_pikipek_by_porn1315-da6hiyo.png
*cries*
Has the shadow of a litten. lol
Lol yeah i hadnt noticed
OH EARTHEN NEARLY FORGOTTEN
People we are nearing the mid of September, but i must remind thy collective ears
Remember that the GTS will be ending fairly soon come early October to prepare, and that means the ending of the Pokemilage club, if you’re anything like me (which is next to impossible i’m an original baby) you have accumulated hundreds of thousands of miles without pacing thought which can be used for three primo items
Rare Candies, PP Ups and newly added Ability Capsules
so as a healthy and threatening reminder make sure you use the points before they waste away
(i was going to post a link but son a beach they’re undergoing scheduled maintenance)
That is all, Stay Frosty PJN
GTS? I hope you mean GL because I’m not through with the GTS just yet. :/
Yeah i was confused aswell i think he means GL
Thanks for the reminder, but Gen 6 GTS isn’t closing, BTW.
that’s not what i’m droning about
its about the Pokemiles
> “Remember that the GTS will be ending fairly soon come early October to prepare”
Sorry.
I’m always frosty. 😉
allllright……
QUICK CATCH THESE THROWING STARS WITH YOUR EYELASHES!!!!
*Throws a barrage of throwing stars*
I have a ton of Pokemiles saved from Bank, never used them. Should I take them now? Or save them for potential usage in Sun and Moon?
I would not use them on the off chance they might carry over and give you a head start on BP, especially BP.
And even if they are reset, just pretend you lost them because items don’t transfer between gens.
Ok thank you!
Implanted memories
save those up
we are not sure if points are transferable
but…wed you can check Pokemiles from XYORAS
Thanks!!
http://www.pokemon-gl.com/oras/close_announcement/en/
Someone over on Serebii Forums mentioned the idea of a UB based on the player. As much as that would weird me out, I kind of really want that now.
I see them as
UB1-lillie+jellyfish
UB2 Beauty-lusamine+silverfish
UB2 Expansion-???+mosquito?
I think UB-02 Beauty looks more like a cockroach than a silverfish.
But I’m really curious as to how many there are. Surely they wouldn’t have just thrown all they had at us. Three UBs would be unnecessarily hyped, I think.
True i can see around 10 UBs but who knows
I think either 4 or 5.
4 if just counters to the Tapus
5 if counters to Tapus and Type:Null/Solgaleo or Lunaala.
I think the magic number is 7.
But Elio and Selene are really generic trainers. How would that work? Based on clothing choice?
I don’t really know, but I’m sure it could be pulled off if they really were making them.
thats their official names? i dig them. pretty nice, not generic but not weird either
Presumably. They were used in the battle royale trailer. Selene sounds too much like Serena though, especially just being 1 gen apart.
Remember when calem and serena were refered to as “Xavier and Yvonne”? *shivers*
Those were dark days.
Xavier>>>Calem
For me its like Xavier=Calem and Serena>>>>>>>>>>>>Yvonne xD
yvonne was very bad
Can you imagine the XY anime with Serena being named Yvonne? Lol
Lol i wouldnt had watch it because i wouldnt be able to stand that name, similar to what happened in DP anime where i skipped episodes with ursula in them because i find that name to be quite ugly haha (no offense to any ursula or yvonne out there)
*contacts all the Yvonnes in the world to inform them*
snitch!
Yup. But I’m golden.
spellwise yes but pronunciation wise they differ enough to not to confuse them
That’s true.
I pronounce them as Seh-ree-nah and Seh-leen
i pronounce seh-reh-nah and seh-leen
Oh ok got it!
I agree with your pronounciations.
Lmao then im now confused i’ll just keep pronouncing them my way xD
Your way is the correct way, the one the anime uses.
If his name is Elio, I feel sorry for him.
Start feeling the feels.
Elio sounds like it’s short for L M A O
I would cry, and the world would be doomed.
I just thought about this, but if UB-02 is version exclusive.. would UB-02 Beauty really be Lusamine?
It could just mean the Lusamine/someone else play different roles depending on your version.
That seems really unlikely though as it would imply that in one version she’s a villain, and in another she’s not. Kind of seem’s like something they really wouldn’t do since it would make the story more confusing.
Well maybe in one version the AF is more evil than in the other, like Team Magma/Aqua. It’s accepted in canon that Aqua and Magma are both evil organizations, but that doesn’t stop the fact that they both were “good” in one version.
It’s not so much that they were good. It’s more that they’re still bad, but one sides with you as they realize you’re an asset to them.
That’s why I put quotations xD. But the point is that the AF can play different roles in each version. I’m not sure it’ll happen, but perhaps to an extent they do.
If Lusamine is replaced by some gruff guy who looks like that thing in the version I want, I’m switching versions.
I’m not sold it’s Gladion. I bet there’s someone else…maybe..
I don’t think it is either. If it’s not obvious, then it’s likely not him; what with the striking resemblence of the other two UBs to major characters.
Nicely put.
Yeah, my money is currently on only those two resembling other characters.
I don’t think it looks anything at all like Gladion.
I’m still for the idea that 2 of the revealed 3 looking like other characters is just coincidence/plot related and the rest don’t resemble any other characters.
That would actually be cool, as we would have story differences between versions.. so playing both is not really a repeat. Cool.
I kind of thought that UB-02 had two different forms, one (“Beauty”) which is the more relaxed one, and one (“Expansion”), which is the more aggressive one. Think that “Beauty”‘s body literally expanded and turned red.
My personal crazy theory is that maybe 02 absorbs the power of the box legendary which results in its shape. Like the beauty comes from from the delicate form of Lunala, while the expansion form comes more from the bulky, fiery form of Solgaleo.
But aren’t they version exclusives? I don’t see how that theory would work
The fact that one is shown to appear in Moon and one in Sun doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re version exclusives. It could be the whole day/night thing.
I thought they were confirmed to be 😛 Perhaps not
Have you been drinking Skooma again?
Nah but my mind’s been destroyed by Chemistry 🙁
Inhaled too many toxic chemicals? XD
Reminds me of this bleach drinking contest
You put Bleach in the blender with water first right?
(imaga)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/images/a/ad/MangaVolume1Cover.png/revision/latest?cb=20141201173531&path-prefix=en
Your feeble mind torn a’sunder by hexing rituals and malevolent potions
Wait, so does the anime part of this article imply Ash won’t be taking on the Island Trial Challenge?
We don’t know anything about how that will be incorporated in the anime to know yet. Especially seeing as how the leaders, May be his companions
Hey are you still planning on participating in the League Tournament? I’m just making sure becausing I haven’t seen you in a while and it’s already begun.
That’s right, my apologies. Any particular time I have to get things situated by or…?
Not really no, but it has started already. We’re organizing things over at the forums, so that’s where you’ll find the information and set up battles. 🙂
Got it, thanks so much 🙂
No problem!
The turd is bound to take on the Island Challenge
well i’m going to bed
don’t touch any of my stuff….its booby-trapped
I feel like you’ve already made this joke but g’night 🙂
do you know how hard it is to keep coming up with new material
Being a comedian is tough….
You could always try the one joke a day technique.
The audiences are so demanding, they’re such Pikipeks.
Hahaha…you said trapped
It’s interesting to note that some websites refer to the Sun and Moon as taking place in different dimensions. I wonder what this could imply…
Yep, there are some ridiculously obvious Diamond and Pearl references in these games. Almost makes you think that their remakes could be next up on the Pokemon roster. Also, hi Dicie 🙂
3D Byron with S&M graphics or better is going to be so damn sexy
I know for a fact that Sun and Moon will have a god-tier Hawaiian soundtrack. Combine those vibes with the Sinnoh soundtrack and we’re never leaving Sinnoh again.
Sinnoh already has some of the best music. As good as the bump Sun and Moon has gotten, Diamond and Pearl will reign as best games on the DS once again. And it’s going to be hard to beat Soul Silver and Heart Gold
I don’t think there is a soundtrack in the Pokemon franchise with more future potential than Sinnoh. Black and White’s soundtrack is already perfect so it barely needs any retouching.
Seriously. And with a revamped story ? ? ? ? ?
I’m going to cry so much when those remakes come out. I said that about Hoenn, but it didn’t quite work out that way. I was so young when playing Gen 3 that it didn’t have too much meaning to me. Gen 4 is when I really decided that Pokemon would be a permanent favorite series of mine.
Same <3
Just the thought of seeing sinnoh in 3D is freaking amazing
I’m kinda worried about sinnoh remakes. sun and moon seem like a huge step up compared to x and y and oras, and while oras looked great, hoenn is a very tropical and oceanic location, which compared to kalos is very colorful and interesting. and sinnoh… well, its kinda bland. don’t get me wrong I like sinnoh but I feel like a remake of the region will look bland compared to alola, kinda the opposite of the kalos to hoenn situation.
which websites?
hehehehehehe
I don’t know y but I like it. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1473729023636.png
Love It <3 X3 😀
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong ♪
Not canon, there are only 3 chairs in Pokemon Amie. :p
I’m excited for Wednesday’s update. Since we technically only got one new Pokemon today (Ultra Beasts and alternate forms don’t count, yet). I think we can expect two or three brand new ‘mons, randomly picked from their roster!
Oh my God I’m so ready for Sinnoh remakes. The amount of Byron art. The internet is actually used. Omg.
Wow Rockruff’s evolutions are truly amazing, they have such beautiful designs. They really do look like werewolves especially the one that evolves at night imo can just imagine a Rockruff howling at the moon than wala turns into this beast xD I’m going to use the daytime evolution, though I love both this one really was an automatic thing were I just felt like I had to use it call it a calling I suppose. The Ultra Beast is an interesting concept as well, I wonder if they’re really apart of the characters since they look so alike either way I can’t wait to learn more! anyway goodnight everyone 🙂
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I’m kinda confused on rockruff’s evolutions. say I like the daytime form better. now, if I evolve it during the day to get the day form, will it remain that way permanently or will it constantly change forms as the day passes? if it constantly changes forms, that’s going to annoy me to no end. especially if that’s how our starters are going to be as well.
It’s sounds like it stays the form it evolves into
i hope you are right.
So like Espeon and Umbreon?
Can’t believe the outfit they put ash in. He looks like he literally go dressed in the dark
I JUST NOTICED IN THAT AMAZING NEW TRAILER THAT TEAM SKULL ME MEMBERS LIKE SHOUT OR SOMETHING WHEN I SEE YOU TO BATTLE I GUESS AS AN INTRO TO THEIR THEME BUT I ONLY HEARD IT BECAUSE IVE BEEN LISTENING TO THE TRAILER ON REPEAT FOR THE LAST HOUR WHILE TYPING A PAPER I AM TIRED
Guys!! I saw this and had too
LOL. But seriously where does Lunala and Solgaleo come into play
I honestly think that maybe since these things come from portals and in the last trailer lunala and solgaleo aren’t fighting and instead jump together into a portal (heck, their visor head thing with the eye) I think that they will help take these beast back to their dimension or team skull could use them to fight aether team and their ub beasts. That or maybe the ub go out of control and aether has to capture solgaleo and lunala to help return them back to their dimension.. I think! Lol! But who knows at this point I’m lost. Specially with the mosquito and roach looking ub-02 beasts ?
I was literally about to type something similar but took a piss break instead. I believe they’ll be used to open portals to defeat the UBs.
Yup! Totally seeing it!! Well now I honestly think that the games will be better than the anime of sumo. To me right now, just looking at that ash and his smile. It gives me mega man star force vibes. We all know how that went 🙁 lol! I honestly wanted for ash to stay in kalos, battle the elite and champ while we are in sun and moon with a new protagonist and then by the and of sumo ash can appear and then take us to gen 8 but I guess this happe
I’m open for new things. Pokemon needed to be refreshed
well guys,tomorrow is going to be the big day,the English trailer for Pokemon Sun and Moon,hopefully we’ll see Lugarugan’s English name. 😀
Hopefully this means that it’s a split evo and not a day/night forme change
Yay I’m happy about this because I’m getting sun 🙂
Than i was Right yesterday. The colouring already made me think so..
Happy i chose Sun.
Version exclusive final starters??
They aren’t version exclusive. Their evolution mechanic would not be dependent on time of day if they were
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I’m fairly certain they’re not version exclusive. Since Rockruff’s evolution is dependent on the time of day, it wouldn’t make sense to separate the forms.
Rockruff wouldn’t be able to evolve in either version outside of a twelve hour window (day for Sun and night for Moon), which seems unlikely.
So if the UB are infact pokemon(not saying they are) but lets say they are.. I would guess UB02B would be psychic/bug and UB02E is fighting/bug. What do you guys think? Im not sure about UB01 pure psychic.?
So we have a pic of all of the pkm that have been announced till now? I still haven’t planned my team :/
So Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon is that mean no day in pokemon moon ??. http://www.serebii.net/corocoro10168th.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1473751242767.jpg
More than likely not version exclusive
check serebii …..I am confuse.
My current team: Popplio/Rugarugan(Day)/Jangmo-o/Alolan Ninetales/ Bewear/Salandit. If a good dark type is released I’ll put it in Bewear’s place. I can’t wait to play this game *cries*
Comparing the Two forms of (L)Rugarugan is like Comparing Miyazaki Animation (sun) to Disney Cartoons (moon), Gotta say though… The Moon form completely suits me. I simply love it.
Kind of upset that Cutiefly’s evo wasn’t covered.
Maybe there will be a late scan or it’ll turn up in the next trailer.
Isn’t that due tomorrow or something?
New information due in 27 hours, with another announcement due when the anime airs on Thursday.
So Rockruff and its evo might very well be the first Rock types, thats more relying on speed rather than brute force. Or am I forgetting one?
not that i know of
Aerodactyl is rock flying
You guys the forms are more than likely NOT version exclusive… I’m pretty positive the corocoro is just highlighting the unique differences between sun and moon. Since you are more likely to be playing Sun while it is day time in game then you’re more likely to receive midday form. Whereas you’re more likely to be playing while it is night in-game in moon, therefore midnight form is more prevelant.
I just don’t see them being version exclusives. Otherwise they wouldn’t evolve based on time of day but rather based on version and that’s not how it’s evolution mechanic was explained
I’m currently getting clarification on the phrasing used in CoroCoro.
To me it seems weird to have two evolutions that are clearly inspired by the time of day, but to have them locked to one version. That’d mean Rockruff simply doesn’t evolve if it reaches evolution level in one game because it’s the wrong time of day.
Did u mean it evolve at specific time and that time will be day in sun and night in moon ?….is this the case?
Sun & Moon are set 12 hours apart, from what we know there is a day and night time in both games.
We’re just not 100% sure on how Rockruff works, because of the way CoroCoro has worded it. 🙂
I’ll update ASAP!
100% version exclusive I’m afraid. “Evolution forms differ completely depending on Pokémon Sun or Pokemon Moon”.
Later on the text suggests it’s related to the respective sun and moon legendaries.
I stand corrected then lol. Oh well, guess I have to pick up both games now
If the starter pokemon might get spilt evolution like whar rockruff’s evo is, then perhaps each spilt represents sun and moon respectively. If we look at the supposed leak for the final evo, then both litten and rowelt final evo look like the sun, at least face wise, while poplio final evo looks like a Cresent moon.
Maybe we can expect the other spilt evo to look like a Cresent moon for litten and rowelt, and a sun for poplio.
But we will see.
A priority Rock Move? That’s all I needed to hear
I hope it translates to Rock Rush
And since sun is going to be my main I need not to worry about evolution
I was kinda hoping that they would change form. Like day during the day and night during the night. But this is cool too.
Wait. If you trade them to the opposite game, will they stay their form?
It’s kinda like Deerling
Whatever form they evolved into they stay
That makes sense.
One last post taking all bets to what Rugarugan’s English name is
I kinda hope it’s Rockwolf
Too basic, rockgaru
Howlder? Idk.
Rockwolf all the way bro
Why would they be version exclusive? That doesn’t make much sense, we already know that it still becomes Night in Sun, and still becomes Day in Moon. It evolves based on the time of the day.
The same with the Raticate and Gumshoos Totems, I would have assumed that at night you fight Raticate but day you fight Gumshoos, from what we’ve been told it wouldn’t make sense to fight Raticate at day, being Nocturnal.
It doesn’t add up.
They are exclusive I’m afraid. The wording has been clarified and apparently the evolutions do not draw they’re energy from the sun and moon themselves but rather from the emissaries of the sun and moon; Solgaleo and Lunaala…which are version exclusive obviously lol. It’s strange I’ll admit but at least they gave it a pretty good explanation
If that’s the case, and Type null is made up of 1 Set of the starters Forms, lets say Day ones, and Rockruff Day Evolution, then is there another Type:Null in Moon made up of the other set of Starters and Rockruff Night?
So I am getting both games I have vacation on release day followed by a three day weekend and then its Thanksgiving… I will thank the All Mighty Arceus for such wonderfull and exciting games… those are my expectations. I am leaning more towards RugaSun(my nicknames are decided already). Those claws on RugaMoon are dope tho.
I have a nine day break lol.
Well now I don’t know which version I want! .-.
I can’t choose just one doge! xP
I already preordered moon since I thought solgaleo or the Sun legendary look like a lion with a problem with his mouth…
Just catch two
No it doesn’t depend on version, it depends on night and day
But both serebii and pokebeach say they’re version exclusives
no they don’t
Serebii: “Lugarugan. In it, it shows the Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon.”
Pokebeach: “These new images confirm that you evolve Rockruff into Rugarugan Midday Form in Pokemon Sun and the Midnight Forum in Pokemon Moon.”
….crap
I know I was confused at first but I only stated the previous post because the majority had it as such
Ohh okay good xP. Sorry
Whichever version you choose, someone will have the other, you just need someone else to help you evolve it.
Origins of Pokemon, Jangmo-o Dragon Warrior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrdZU4P1Bk0
So Dragon/Steel seems most likely at this point. I myself was kind of thinking Dragon/Water but Steel is great too 🙂
I hope it is only Dragon Type, I don’t like the second type, it doesn’t fit on it.
A counter priority move will shut down so many Pokemon; paired with the right stats Rockruff will be a beast.
And also we got ourselves a rock type priority move, Rockruff’s evos are going to be fantastic to use
RIP Talonflame XD
And volcarona…ugh
Gets shot down to RU
Yo is Pokejungle glitchy right now?
Updating. 🙂
But everything is red
Just hold out for a bit. Should all be good soon enough.
I’m confused and scared….Warcraft is on maintenance and I’m bored
let’s see what would Rockwolf learn
Bite
Crunch
Odor Sleuth
Accel Rock
maybe Slash
Roar/howl
Elemental fangs
i want Rock Blast early it is a insanely good move for leveling
I kinda hope it can learn Iron Tail or Metal Claw
Dig would be cool
“It appears the evolutions may be version exclusive.”
“though it appears that it may change form during day and night, and it is not simply a split evolution.”
Alright now I’m confused. If it’s version exclusive it’s going to throw me for a loop because Midday has this awesome new Rock type Ice Shard and I wanted Moon so far.
Me too wrong grammars everywhere in that part i don’t know what they said…
So if Rockruff evolves differently based on the version and it has something to do with the starters, I wonder if the starters will evolve the same way, based on the version
If rockwolf night version is rock/dark, I’m using it for sure
I mean I like it too but the design is in need of tweaking
Thicker torso
Much thicker forelimbs
it needs a longer tail
Maybe protruding rocks somewhere
I agree, wolfs are not skinny!
Possible English names of Rugarugan might be:
Rock wolf
Howler
Boulwolf
Boulgrrrr
Same name
Idk
i think it’ll be something like lougarugan , with louga coming from the french word lougarou , meaning werewolf .
Lougarougan?
Loupgarougan.
Actually it’s spelt loup garou. Loup means wolf, and garou is a man who can change into an animal. Other forms are corruptions that stem from French colonies in parts of America.
OMG sorry i know ,my bad , i actually speak french along with arabic english and spanish. dont know how the right spelling escaped me …
No worries.
I only know the spelling because of a monster in Final Fantasy Tactics A2.
Lupore
Lupus+Ore
Kinda but idk
Also sounds like Paw, you know how they like puns
I’m still going with Wereruff. It sounds right to me. 😀
Cute
I like Rockwolf and Boulwolf… what about Wererock?
Idk
Well this whole evolution thing just got more confusing……Here’s what I’m hoping: It’s not exactly “version exclusives” per say. More so that due to the games being 12 hours apart it’s easier to get Midday in Sun and Midnight in moon. They’d still be evolutions based on the time of day, but at the same time they would also be easier in their particular game. It’s probably like in BW with Sawk and Throh where one is just harder to get in either game, but both exist.
I hope it’s like this. Trying to a get Midday/Midnight form in whatever version you have will be a serious pain in the ass.
Might be a pain, but at least you’d get a choice hahaha
I prefer the original though. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1473775410380.jpg
So is it the alpha or omega?
What’s that? I’m so lost
No. It looks like someone just edited the pic from yesterday. You can tell by it’s placement in the pic when comparing to the normal one.
Shame, it would be cool for it to change colors at night
I do like the coloration a lot. Maybe more so than on the actual Midnight form, but I think maybe I like the normal version more lol
so starters evolutions follow day/night thing and are exclusive to Sun or Moon?
Who knows at this point. they might not even have evolutions with split forms. at this point it’s all speculation and even with the little info we do have it’s still hard to tell. We don’t even have a clear idea of how Rurarugan works.
So will the starters have evolutions that are version exclusive?
Rockruff’s evolution’s type????
Rock priority? Nooooo
Just have a Bruxish counter it
Oh wait CRUNCH
Ew that thing is too ugly to be near my beautiful team.
It is pretty. Just look at the colors
The face ruins it. Maybe if it evolves I’ll like it more, but I doubt it will. Seems like a standalone.
And it will be beautiful regardless
Meh, Ive seen better looking pokes. Not my least fav this gen
It’s not my favorite but it’s not as bad as people make it to be. The worst design so far is Drampa hands down.
Ew, I definitely dont like that thing. No idea what they were going for
Grampa Dragon 😀
Booo
nooooooo! I like drampa he’s super sweet and a normal/dragon whats not to love? and his animations are super fluid and dynamic.
I really love this doge
“It appears the evolutions may be version exclusive.”
“though it appears that it may change form during day and night, and it is not simply a split evolution.”. https://media.tenor.co/images/2094d3a9c9f83925bc26e27f05cedc18/raw (rf)
The former is from a new leaked page and has been confirmed by multiple translators including one at PJ
A thought occurred
What if Accelrock isn’t a Signature attack and other rock types could learn it
like rhyperior? that’d be awesome
Precisely
I am consistently burdened by the slowness that is the rock type but everyone knows that priority moves are notoriously weak
just look at how much use mamoswine has with ice shard. I’m sure rhyperior will appreciate a priority move and become much greater than it already is.
OMG Pokemon Generations anime series announced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzwcIG8vgk
I can’t wait for this! While I’ve never been a huge fan of the anime I definitely plan to watch this.
It looks a spiritual succesor (not really a direct sequel) to Origins. Red and Blue both feature but the story expands beyond Kanto apparently.
Finally! No more of that trash anime. This alternative to it is going to be amazing!
Ehh XYZ is sort of the best arc in the entire anime series but ok 😛
its still trash
Lmao it really isn’t though. You’re obviously confusing it with Best Wishes
ive been following XYZ, none of the problems that were wrong with the anime are even touched by it. sure, its a bit more action packed and epic, but that doesn’t excuse crap character development and poor pacing, not to mention needless filler.
XYZ hardly has any fillers lol. I can’t even think of 5 filler episodes. Maybe two tops
I have an episode list pulled up here on serebii and I can see like more than half of it is filler. anything that doesn’t have to do with league battles (including gyms obviously) or character development is filler. and no, any episode consisting of “helping new character that will never be shown again for this one episode” doesn’t count as development, its filler. anyways, I think we can both agree that this pokemon generations looks great!
“i dont like it so that makes it shit”
really? I just listed legitimate problems with the plot and characters and you say that the only reason is because I don’t like it? there’s a reason the anime is so hated among a good number of the pokemon community.
I haven’t watched XYZ but pokemon talking with their names makes me cringe.
if we show support I think they will keep it up or expand upon the pokemon generations youtube shorts.
yyyyyyyYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
And boom goes the dynamite
is it Rugarugan or Lugarugan? Serebii says Luga and this says Ruga… And that is the Japanese name right?
It is Japanese.
Generations anime looks f****** amazing!!
Mindblown and totally unexpected also
Omg maybe we’ll see some more gym leaders in Generations. Like Byron since it’s going to take place in other regions. I do wish that they instead had an origins series for each generation though.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GENERATIONS POSTER!!!!
Ooooooooooooooooo girl
Holy shit wat the hell is that?
Pokemon Generations
it is so hype! September 16th? That’s Friday!
I’m glad that the forms are version exclusive. XD It makes it so much easier to get both forms. (Or at least for me it does, because I’m planing on getting BOTH Sun and Moon. I’m starting with Moon first, so I’ll have to trade my Rockruff over to my Sun version to evolve it, but that’s O.K 😀 ) It would have been annoying to have to actually wait for night time to come to evolve it. That was so annoying when I was trying for an Umbreon, instead of an Espeon, because it is so much easier to get and Espeon than an Umbreon. 😛 I’m so excited to use this guy. ;D
It is annoying, not being version exclusive would have been cooler and it doesn’t take that long to wait for the night. Or you could just change your 3ds clock settings
9 and a half weeks left
Why must time be so slow
Could the Starters’ final evolutions also be version exclusive?
I hope so I just can’t find it in my heart to love Popplio3 I like it but not love it.
I like it, but I was looking for an elephant seal based on some fan art lol.
I hope not, I hope it just depends on day or night
So that update means there might be version exclusive final evos for the starters?
If the Rockruff forms were version exclusives then the starters would be as well and that would suck cos I chose sun!
I love Sun Version Rockruff it’s my third Favorite Pokemon this game around
You could ask others to evolve it for you. Perhaps you could offer to evolve theirs in your version.
Just had the thought that Lugarugan’s forms are partly based on Skoll and Hati? The two wolves in Norse myth said to be in constant pursuit of the Sun/Moon. I feel there surely has to have been some influence? Also these two wolves were highly speculated to be possible sun/moon box legends before we got the real ones.
Interesting
I’m not knowledgeable about Norse Mythology, but do they have any connection to Fenrir, and so Zygarde?
Sons of Fenrir. Make of that what you will but I don’t think they will specifically be linked to Zygarde. What would be awesome is if there is an NPC seeking the box legend (and Eusine sorta character) and their ace is Lugarugan, version dependant.
I’m less happy with my choice of Moon but I don’t hate new Moon Rockruff just less happy and it may stay on my team (Unless Weavile is available cause then it is my main Pokemon)
Maybe you could ask someone with Sun to evolve it for you?
Well my brother is getting Sun
Perhaps you could swap, evolve them and then trade them back to each other.
So what do we think this means for the starters?
Might mean we don’t know if they are still related to Rockruff’s or they do not have a day or night Evo at all
It might mean that we would end up having Day evolutions in Sun and Night evolutions in Moon, and if so then we’ll might end up getting either Sun or Moon.
I thought the Pokemon only evolve during the day or night. Or in this game are they eternal day in Sun and Eternal Night in Moon.
It seems like to the Pokemon Company, their favorite games are always the second versions to each generation, such as Blue, Silver, Sapphire, Pearl, White, Black 2, Y and Moon.
I suppose this might have to do with cultural differences between the east and the west. The east likes the second versions more than the first, whilst in the west we like the first more than the second.
To be honest those are exactly the versions I get and this time I am getting moon and hopefully pooplio. Depending on its evo. Oh wait instead of blue I got red but everything else is the same
Though the first version, X, got Mega Charizard X so I wouldn’t be too sure
True. Though in comparison, we’re talking about first versions being like 25% to the second version being 65%
The extra 10% is the third version.
If there ever is a Third version ever again
This is really interesting. Where did you learn the east likes the second version more, and why ?
If you look on Youtube, there were an experiment done on the streets with normal people from both western and eastern cultures, using shapes and colors.
Also if you look at the Pokemon games, anime and movies, most of the good pokemon and theme in story are always found with the second versions, such as N’s Reshiram, Mewtwo Y, Lugia, etc.
Wait if Nights Signature move is Counter, is it possible it’s Rock/Fighting?
I think by signature it just means the other version can’t learn it, which means other Pokémon might get the other move. I think it could even be Dark/Fighting losing Rock completely. A lot of Pokémon learn Counter though, Wobbufet being the prime example, probably more of a design fitting move for it IMO.
That would make sense cause Signature usually means unique to it, like Volt Tackle. I found the wording odd cause as you said, many learn Counter
Certain slow Rock types could also really use that priority move, perhaps even boosting their usage significantly. Hopefully the official site will update soon with the info on these ‘mon and word it properly.
What if Type:null is made to use the arceus plates and then is called type:One, type:two, type:three… Etc…?!?
Anyone notice at the bottom left of 1 image it shows pokemon go and 3 of the alolan forms?
Could it be possible to transfer from phone to 3ds?
I think it is more likely as people have speculated: Alolan forms will appear in Go.
Ive been thinking it would be the pokemon you transfer from pokemon go to sun/moon they would evolve to alolan forms.
There isn’t a way to connect a smartphone and a 3ds, is there?
You never know, maybe the new pokemon go attachment thats yet to come out maybe compatible
Has everyone forgotten about tomorrow’s news video? I haven’t seen it in the comments
I don’t think people have forgotten, just not much to be said about it until it’s out beyond speculating that it will contain a bit more information and a few Pokémon reveals. People seem to be fairly concentrated on these scans and information we have already, from what I’ve read.
So I level up my Rockruff then trade to my Freind which evolves it and gives it back! That could work! I’d rather it not be version exclusives tho! But thanks
So can we expect Ash to make it all the way to finals week and then bomb the test? I mean, they gotta keep it consistent, right?
That is lame, wish it wasn’t version exclusive, would have played better into the day and night theme going on. I hope this does not mean the starters, if they have two evolutions, that they will be version exlcusive