Well friends, the final chapter of our Alolan adventure is almost upon us and the final trailer before the release of Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon has arrived.
The review embargo for the games has also been lifted, so here’s what official outlets are saying:
- Nintendo Life 10/10 – “You’d be forgiven for not wanting to jump back into the same world again so soon but, in their own right, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are truly incredible entries to the series that deserve to be sitting amongst the elite Pokémon titles.”
- GameReactor 9/10 – “The story is much more engaging this time around, there’s plenty of call-backs for long-time fans, and the title’s proceed to push the 3DS even further.”
- Gamespot 8/10 – “Though they aren’t very different from their predecessors, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon make enough changes to stand apart as the definitive version of the seventh generation games.”
- EGM 8/10 – “The definitive edition of Pokémon Sun and Moon, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon encapsulate the elements of what made the first set of games great—and also carry forward some of the games’ flaws.”
- TheSixthAxis 8/10 – “Plenty of new features and details will make fans of the franchise very happy and while I still mourn for the DexNav to this day, the new content is well worth becoming Alolan Champion once more.”
- GameXplain ‘Liked-A-Lot’ – “They feel incredibly familiar to those who have traveled to Alola before”
- Famitsu 36/40










7. Silvally…. this thing is… awkward.. it’s got a decent defensive type on some forms… decent…. other… stuff.. .A lot of the forms lacked coverage on the physical side prior so.. It gets a lot of new coverage moves like the pledges (apparently the blast burn part of its moveset was a mistake and it meant to reference the pledges), heat wave, and signal beam… but it’s special attack stat is mediocre and work up is the only raise it is Work Up….it has set up for its physical side which gets zen headbutt and oddly enough outrage… it also gets defog and tailwind which would make it a decent support mon except it’s required to hold a memory to get type changes and its utility is sorta weird… overall I can see this mon being used a fair bit more but saying how good it will be is a challenge considering how overall weird this mon is in general…. game freak honestly tried to make this thing good but… idk.
Bewear, Togedemaru, and Pallosand all received buffs that make them quite a bit stronger but they’re all rather obvious for why they help the mon. Additionally, the actual impact they have isn’t that large and its plausible that they may not even leave their current tiers
Do we have confirmation on whether Dusk Lycanroc has a hidden ability or not?
I’ll look, give me a moment
It doesn’t.
So I’m having an anime moment and I’m having trouble deciding if I even want Dusk Form Lycanroc…
I mean it’s technically new but deep down I realized that Midnight a is the one I relate with more than any other form
And if it learns Fire Punch I can see it cackling as it swings its fiery paws left and right even combining Fire Punch with Stone Edge to create flaming spires
Have you ever used Midnight in game before?
Sadly no….The second game out the bunch is reserved for Ground monos which…wasn’t really fun….only had like Mudbray starter Dugtrio, Sandygast and whatever I didn’t use
So I dunno, I have plenty of Steadfast Rockruffs in fast balls and would be no trouble to send it over
Lemme change your mind as of now
It’s barely new. It’s a midday with tough claws and a 2 stat point difference. It’s literally the same as Midday
Don’t even bother
I think you mean don’t even bother with Midday because it’s inferior to Dusk in every way
that’s true but I mean if he’s ever used midday, it’s essentially the same thing but a slight amount stronger
Barely any difference
Move tutors my dude, not a huge change but it’s not going to be the exact same
I’m pretty sure Midday and dusk have the exact same move tutor moves. Midnight actually gets different stuff
Dusk is basically Midday with Counter and Tough Claws, but i’m still gonna use it because i love it in terms of aesthetics.
DO NOT FORGET THE HUGE DIFFERENCE
2 LOWER BASE SPEED AND 2 HIGHER ATTACK
W H O A H
Dusk is basically Midday but stronger so if you’ve used Midday already you won’t miss much, most of the changes from Midday to Dusk are aesthetic only.
That’s why we needed Dawn ffs
Dusk Lycanroc was probably only made for the anime, added to the game late in development hence why its event only but still its more Ashcanroc then anything else
Use Midnight if you prefer it. I can breed you one in any ball you like with Sucker Punch, Fire+Thunder Fang and Thrash or Crush Claw if you like.
Fun fact: Meganium is a better user of counter than Lycanroc
Fun fact: Meganium is thrash
Fun Fact: So is Midnight Lycanroc
No Guard + Stone Edge …….so NO
PU
Fake news
PU
85 speed
Rock type
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzP1yyOFI_o
Why would anyone use Counter on Midnight Lycanrock?
It’s not a defensive Pokemon, it has loads of weaknesses, it doesn’t have recovery, it doesn’t have sturdy. Seriously why?
Ask the people down below. Idk
nobody said we should use Counter on it
GF encouraged it
Meganium needs a buff.
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Murr?
https://media.giphy.com/media/13k7WcOG6wQCOI/giphy.gif
It’s supposed to be Mr Stake from TFS’s Nuzlocke of HGSS
OK I just saw Murr and this gif is of Murr from Impractical Jokers.
Watching RebelTaxi’s review of Giant Robo. It actually looks pretty cool. Might give it a watch
its over
Is it sad the thing Im maybe most excited for in USUM is the music remixes from past gens?
no
It seems to be a large part of it so I say it’s a good thing to look forward to.
Also I still just want to know about apricorn balls :I
So do I. I really just want them to be purchasable.
They really need to be. That’s probably the thing out of this game I want most lol
Even if it’s for like 4 BP a ball I’d take it.
While that would be shitty and I wouldn’t put it past them, yeah, I’d take even that
The trainer battle theme SUCKS compared to SM theme. They remixed it so much that I can barely tell its same theme. It’s awful/10. It’s a shame it went from best trainer battle theme to easily the worst.
I have come back after a short reflection period. I am sorry for any upset and/or annoyance I caused earlier. I would have been back sooner to say this but I had stuff to do. As some of you know I have quite alot of problems, some of which I haven’t shared at all here, that affect how I react to things. Not that this excuses anything I say or do. I know I probably just seem weak and terrible and this was probably the shortest ‘leaving’ ever but I felt worse not coming here to apologise for earlier. Thanks to those who asked me to stay, I am annoyed at myself because I somewhat dramatised the situation which was never my intention. I hope we can all move forward from here.
Pulling a Dicie I see.. (anyone understand this or am I just old?)
You know I do.
Hey, what happened to the “Gym Leader” title after your name?
You probably just need to refresh, I’ve heard people ask that before. I don’t believe I’ve been demoted.
Ok, yeah, I see it now.
And it’s never present on mobile 😡
I vaguely remember, but I may not have been a member at the time.
Damn I’m old
I’m just glad you’re back
Never really bothered me, but glad you’re back.
This is the life but we all know, I know that you are a good hearted person. You’re also someone who is willing to defend the truth.
Don’t worry it was just a storm in a tea cup.
And don’t you dare fuzz off again like that, we all want and need you here 😛
USUM is here in what 1 day now??
Exciting times are ahead!
Yay, I knew you couldn’t stay away from
mehere for long 😉Lol you could be me and leave and come back like a million times :p
It’s fine, we all understand that everyone’s been getting frustrated and stuff but I’m glad people came together to tell you that they didn’t want you to leave 😀
OMG Duuuuuuude!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously I have 100% certainty that not one person here could ever be mad at you longer than a maybe a few mins at most! Idk what you did/said, but remember you always are welcome here and even if others may, I’ll never be made at you https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1483a57a32b220b5a0daedc0b7c6566cb44a82fe5ec433d7941670788f35e0d8.jpg
Thank you for saying so 🙂
Happy to see that you’re staying!
I have a question for you guys. I’m compiling a list for top 10 favorites of Each type, and I want to include Both Alola and regular Dugtrio for ground. there is an obvious difference between them (I like ALola dugtrio more) would you have them be two seperate spots/ or would they share a spot. Same with pokemon in the same evolution line. Would they be seperate spots or would like average the likeableness in both? Does this make sense?
Separate for Alolan, same for evolution line, at least that’s what I do.
I’d say put em in one spot together.
Eh separate, I consider them different enough
Fav Fossil?
You mean Fossil ‘mon or actual Fossil?
Mon Lol
Well you could have meant like Helix or Sail fossil. Anyway Kabutops, Omastar and Tyrantrum are my top 3 at the moment.
Definitely Aurorus and Tyrantrum.
For me it’s Tyrantrum. It’s just so frickin awesome! And it’s a Dragon type, Which just makes it cooler. An amazing mon!
Top 3 are
1. Armaldo
2. Rampardos
3. Omastar
Probably Aurorus! The only one I dont really like though is Bastiodon
Carracosta and Archeops
Just to say it, I’m making positive, thoughtful Pokémon memes now…
I’ve made Birthday, Congrats and Need a Hug?. So what should I do next?
”It’s a boy!” and ”It’s a girl!”
You never know when that’ll come in handy
Hmm I definitely know what to do for these brb
I finished here they are
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You need to do a Professor one where they don’t know.
Yaaaaas! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d1ceaf63dacb66e78f183a130fa5b015db4ca351a6cc75758c9abd32ee7614f.jpg
I like how serious he is about it.
Encouragement maybe?
Hmm only wondering what Pokémon to use for it?
Maybe Arcanine?
Maybe Volcarona? Since it takes so long to evolve but gets there eventually.
https://media.giphy.com/media/XsesspPw21oOI/giphy.gif
Is there a list of all Pokemon catchable in USUM including wormholes yet? Need to update my Pokeball collection lists.
The 7 UBs from SuMo
Voltorb line
Legendary birds
Mewtwo
Yanma line
Wooper line
Slugma line
Legendary dogs
Lugia
Ho-oh
Lotad line
Seedot line
Tailow line
Meditite line
Spoink line
Swablu line
Regis
Latias+Latios
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Buizel line
Hippopotas line
Skorupi line
Snover line
Lake trio
Dialga
Palkia
Heatran
Giratina
Cresselia
Audino
Dwebble line
Sigilyph
Ducklett line
Stunfisk
Swords of justice
Forces of nature
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem
Binacle line
Helioptle line
Xerneas
Yveltal
Thanks.
Totem-Sized gifts exclusiveness
Ultra Sun
Gumshoos
Marowak
Lurantis
Vikavolt
Ribombee
Ultra Moon
Raticate
Araquanid
Salazzle
Togedemaru
Kommo-o
Mimikyu is available in both versions, whilst Wishiwashi isn’t included because it uses the regular sized model for its species in both forms during the Totem fight.
So UM it is then
……….WHHHHAAAAAAAT I CANT GET TOTEM KOMMO-O IN SUN BULLSHIIIIIIIT
Use Moon fam
Especially if you’re gonna use Midnight Lycan
Ughhhhhhhhhh I don’t want Moon to be my main game…..
Why. Good reasons only.
Just get it later when you play Ultra Moon then.
Fiiiine
You’re using Jangmo-o anyway what do you care?
Totem Araquaniiiid
But can you trade them? Honestly though it would be cooler if you could make any pokemon a totem. I want a giant Volcarona
Giant Wailord would break the game if it were the size it’s meant to be then totem sized.
The Switch could handle it 😀
@detoxic:disqus Fennekin is ready.
The best things in 7 gen for me. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1510670066025.jpg http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1510731484419.png
It looks like Incineroar is looking at necro
That wat I was implying
Lmao I’m getting wrecked https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f7b0c98714da8e58df5ab1571da0e30aff35a6dcd4f43db35f9bcff20fba0d10.jpg
Is that the best water type in Pokémon that I see in the bottom left?
Or more accurately; best pre gen 7 water type
Wailord??
Oh yess fam xD
For all the wrong reasons yes
And what are they?? 😛
It’s wailord
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This thing is toooo strongg
YESSSS ?https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b632111be1dd9daa937506c99ad27f7529baee8c7fcb5b17398f8e2353a736e.jpg
Just wanna say I loved the post kyogre/groudon scenes. The peaceful ending around hoenn where it shows different places and people celebrating their survival the end of heavy kyogre storms.
Wonderful touch from GF..xD Love these games.
SOMEONE Tell me if vikavolt got major buffs to its speed?
No, it’s not a generational shift so stats don’t alter.
The most it would probably ever get would be +20 to speed, but even that’s wishful thinking
…These are before gamers get their hands on it isn’t it? [Remembering that we are 2 days to release date.]
I’ve got a hate hammer for gen 7 and I’ve been ready for what can be a failure of this generation by being the 3rd game that came out in under a year. (And unlike the other two that have came out in under a year, this one is in a good generation and will declare gen 7 the worst gen near gen 1 if it really goes fowl.)
Are you new here? Dont think I’ve seen ya around
I’m kind of Mint here (I came here before but due to someone’s pleading to be unblocked.)
OOooh
You can kind of know whom?
Know what’s pathetic?
If GF were to make their games have three third versions, have only 50 new mons, and minamal effort but the post game had a battle frontier
A large portion of the community would be statisfied
Satisfied
THATS whats sad
Know what’s pathetic?
If GF were to make their games have three third versions, have only 50 new mons, and use minimal effort but the post game had a battle frontier
A large portion of the community would be satisfied
(Edited)
I’m not trying to shade anyone, but it’s true
Well I would praise it for that, but I also tend to look at pokemon games in parts. So if everything else about the game was bad, I’d point it out. I also would be kinda angry if there were only 50 pokemon :I I want another big generation.
We’re long over due a big gen of Pokemon
It’s been 7 years since a big one 🙁
fsdababxha wow 7 years!!
It felt like it were only yesterday.
I must confess myself disappointed.
Crab!!..Goyle!…
Woops there’s me going all HP again haha
I was listening to john williams score of the movies yesterday <3
Oh I know, I’m not specifically saying you
I’m saying plenty of people would do so
Oh, no, I know. Though I am a big BF fan so initially yes I would be very excited. Hopefully it wouldn’t blind me to everything else though
I know it wouldn’t
Right? I still don’t understand the love of the Battle Frontier, but oh well……not getting into that fight
Oh it’s a great feature for sure
I just feel like it gets focused on waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much
Is it tho? Just seems like a bunch of facilities that force you into long tedious tournaments of battle after battle and the only thing you really get out of it is a badge that does nothing.
I enjoyed it
It does have a greater sense of replay value than the Battle Maison or Battle Tree. Generally more varied, too.
Think if you could battle with past trainers in battle frontier facilities. Would really make it cool!
That would be pretty nice. An extension to the PWT would be even more.
Maybe the PWT to be incorporated as a new battle facility?
Dream come true, in all honesty xD
I’m not sure how a frontier brain for it would work though. Maybe like after you beat the circuit of 8 leaders you face the brain?
Well because pokemon has turned heavily toward competitive battling basically as a replacement for post game content. In gen 3, when the Battle Frontier was introduced, there was only link cable battling between players so the BF was all there was to do post game. But now that we’ve all got wifi, and competitive battling is so accessible, simply battling one another isn’t enough for a lot of us. It gets stale after a while.
Think of it like a multiplayer game with little to no local matchmaking. We need something to substitute offline battling. Yeah, we’ve got the battle tree and the agency now, but it’s still less offline battling content than 13 years ago.
I don’t know if I explained that well, but those are my thoughts. Online battling isn’t really content. We need more offline stuff (though online battle THROUGH the battle frontier would be cool too)
I think something that fans long for, especially those who do not care for competitive play or shiny hunting, is something to keep them going after the main story.
I’m not gonna lie, I LOVE Pokemon, but after spending a couple of weeks with Pokemon Moon, it rested on my shelf for about 11 months until a couple days ago when I decided to revisit it. For me, personally, I don’t enjoy shiny hunting or competitive battling, so I guess you could call me a “casual” player. I just wish that I had more of an incentive to keep playing. In this game, I guess it will be catching all of the legends and Ultra Beasts, which is a slight improvement from SM, but what’s after that? Maybe I have to adjust my playstyle to enjoy these titles more, I don’t know.
I know what you mean. I’m just upset that some fans legitimately hate newer games not cause of their flaws but LITERALLY because they don’t contain a battle frontier. No other reason
I don’t think that’s it? It’s more that there isn’t anything at all to do
Thank you :))
Again, I agree, but I’m saying that there are people who legitimately focus on a singular feature and thats it. That’s what bothers me
Yeah, I definitely agree with you. The Battle Frontier isn’t the only thing that could give players a tangible postgame. And it’s something we haven’t had in a long time, so constant “where is it” year after year is just annoying.
Exactly. The PWT for example was a nice change of pace
If it was a one and done thing, I’d agree, but it’s appeared 3 times, so obviously they brought it back twice, they can do it again. And yeah, the second time it was brought back it was an identical thing, but still HG/SS’ content was insane.
I think the battle maison did a good job as a BF replacement
Really? Battle Maison is just the Battle Tower with a different name, nothing special.
Then clearly i don’t remember BF because I️ thought it was the same thing. Battle maison wasn’t slow paced which is why I️ thought it did well
But how? Frontier had 7 different play styles. Maison had 1
Didn’t maison have 4?? Single double multi and 3v3
Or multi with a friend I️ don’t remember
Unless I’m mistaken, each battle facility from the frontier has that. But they have special battling modes, like how the factory and the tower are different in their approach to battling.
Oh I know what you’re talking about. From emerald. I just figured RS
Yeah. There was also a frontier in Platinum and HGSS (the same one though)
Yeah I remember but emerald had it first so… lol
Yeah, but Emerald’s is the best lol.
Battle Maison is basically an offshoot of the Battle Tower from the Battle Frontier. It’s the same thing just with a different name.
Psssh what a casual player thing of you to say *pushes glasses up*
I don’t enjoy shiny hunting either. I think it’s pointless but that’s just me. Sun and moon turned me off of competitive play so i guess I’m in the same boat as you
And maybe we’re in the minority with these feelings because they seem to get ignored game after game. I’ve caught one legitimate shiny in my life which was a Poliwhirl from chain fishing in XY. It’s just not fun for me. :/
I don’t mind competitive. SM turned me off because I think Z moves are stupid in all honesty
All GF had to do was make the tree more like the PWT
Was that so hard?
Was the PWT even good? I barely did it cuz it was boring
It was cool cause you got to battle past gym leaders with powerful teams of 6. Idk, gym leaders are fun to me 😛
I like battling gym leaders too but not like that
I mean it could be revamped. I don’t think it’s a must, but it’s cool seeing returning characters. I would settling for just being able to battle that regions gym leaders over again whenever
I guess but regardless I don’t think that’s all GF had to do for USUM. Just saying
Def not. I like the new content they added, just wish there was a frontier or PWT again.
Unpopular Opinion below:
I wish it was a sequel not an alternate dimension or whatever they are calling it. Sun and Moon were boring to me. I enjoyed the story aspect sure but leading to it wasn’t good. I didn’t like trials, some of the good Pokémon in alola didn’t get evolutions, one of my favorites had a freakin ability that ditches battle when below 50% which made sense for Wimpod but not Golisopod. Z moves ruined everything, etc.
Honey, that ain’t an unpopular opinion! I agree with you 1000%! I probably wouldn’t say they were boring, but like a lot of pokemon games, the plot could’ve used polishing.
I wanted a Black Tower/ White Treehollow style faculty, but I didn’t get that either…..
True…
I think if the Battle Frontier was more like how it was in the anime where you’d travel the region over again and don’t have to challenge 80 trainers in a row without losing I’d be more inclined to like it. Also maybe if they added more incentives to doing it. Like special items that only the best of the best should be allowed to have or something….idk
I really enjoyed the battle dome which was only found in Hoenn’s BF. It reminded me of the anime tourney style league championships.
It was quite challenging as well and fun.
The others were ok, the battle arena was a cool concept. Pik and Pyramid were good too.
The feeling of having the gold symbols ahh.
It was challenging so every victory felt goood