September CoroCoro Leaking [UPD]

Following the soft reveal of a blurry Lycanroc Dusk Form on the front cover, pages from Japanese comic magazine, CoroCoro, have begun to leak and contain information about the new form!

UPDATE: We finally have clearer images of the CoroCoro leaks and can confirm the following info:

  • There will be a “Special Rockruff” distribution for Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon from launch day until January 10th, 2018
  • Confirmation that Lycanroc Dusk Form cannot be obtained through normal gameplay and seems to be tied to events
  • Dusk Form Lycanroc is pure Rock-type
  • When evolving into Dusk Form, Lycanroc can learn both Counter and Accelrock – which were previously Midnight and Midday form exclusives respectively
  • It can have the ability Tough Claws, which boosts the power of contact moves by 30%

Have you warmed up to Dusk Form yet?

 

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1,047 thoughts on “September CoroCoro Leaking [UPD]”

  1. Joe already translated a fair bit:

    -Special Rockruff distribution coming alongside USUM launch
    -Lycanroc Z-Crystal
    -Dusk Form has access to both Accelrock and Counter
    -Dusk form abilities is Tough Claws

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  2. Is it or Dusk looks better in the CoroCoro than it does in-game?

    But anyways, the fact that it gets both signature moves from both forms worries me that there won’t be a Dawn form. :T

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  3. Well I am certainly glad they gave it Tough Claws. Just with that ability I believe it will be stronger/more easily usable than the original forms. How much depends on how they handle its stat distribution.

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  4. Ok without a doubt I’m using this thing now
    Accelerock and Counter WITH TOUGH CLAWS….. Um I think I need to get this thing right now

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    • I’m glad a new feature in this game has made you happy Earthen. Especially since it’s a new Pokémon (form) mid-gen. I’m also considering it but I usually like for me teams to be unique and I’m not sure how many people will want this new form.

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      • So I think we all kind of forget that not every pokemon has to be competitively viable. Pokemon is after all for kids as well. Think about being a little kid and evolving this rockruff and it’s one form but then your friend does it and gets a different form and you two have no idea why because you haven’t used the internet to search it. There’s mystery. There’s intrigue. You all have different wolves and some are better than others. It’s a game after all, and making a new pokemon with this…I guess… gimmick is just going to increase the fun.

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  5. Apparently there’s more Pokemon stuff in this Corocoro issue, but the guy who leaked it wont post anything else until its morning in Japan.

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  6. Counter is as useless as ever. But Tough Claws is awesome ( I assume Accelrock is a contact move)

    Unfortunately it will probably still have a bad movepool and stat distribution

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  7. Woah… I always make jokes about tough claws with megas but something actually got tough claws and i love it

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    • Well there is Barbacle. But it kind of makes poor use of it. But I agree with you, more powerful abilities for the new forms.

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  8. I’m starting to like Dusk Lycan a lot more now. I know that they really shouldn’t have had 2 other forms in the first place if this is the “true” version of Lycan, but still combining the elements of both Lycans (like the moves, Midday’s speed, the little bit of bulk from Midnight) is probably going to give it a good use in competitive battling (still hoping it makes UU if that’s the case). Ontop of that, Tough Claws is going to rock (no pun intended) with this thing.

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  9. UPDATE: Joe translate the page again with his own image software program, and he now says there’s NO LYCANROC Z-CRYSTAL

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  10. I am still on the fence about Lycanroc Dusk. Tough Claw and Accelrock does make it seem kind of viable, but I am going to wait a little longer before I say if I like it or not. Here is hoping to it being able to one shot Drifblim. I guess next month we will see Lycanroc Dawn unless it’s in a trailer on Friday. It’s technically the first true week of the month so I suspect that we are going to get a small trailer for USUM if were lucky.

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  11. Another translator said: A light that comes from another place is affecting some Pokemon in the new Alola! ……..I think this light belong to legendary pokemon and it’s not Tapu Lele

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  12. Mons I wanna see in USUM:
    Komala Evo (Normal/Fire “Boomatic” fire stone)
    Dhelmise prevo (Water/Grass “Seaweak” dawn stone)
    Dhelmise evo (Ghost/Ice “Titawreck” level up at Mount Lanakila)
    Drampa prevo (Dragon “Skailid” level 35)
    Turtonator prevo (Fire “Minele” level 35)
    Oricorio prevo (Normal/Flying “Tweetance” level 15)
    Minior (Rock/Psychic “Planetelite” level 38)
    Bewear (Fairy/Fighting “Masterjoy” level 45)

    Opinions?

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          • Bewear that learned to control it’s strength and protects children and small pokemon.
            Dhelmise is a Whalord-sized frozen shipwreck with a dhelmise on the place where the anker is
            Minior is a levitating planet the colour its core was with small minior cores of the rest of the colours orbiting around it

          • When’s the last time they nerfed a Pokémon not named Talonflame? Besides of all the mons in the dex that don’t have three stages, Dhelmise and Bewear are some of the least likely

    • Komala, Minior, Pyukumuku, and Comfey will get evolutions.
      Turtonator and Drampa will get pre-evolutions.

      Salazzle will get gender differences.

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      • I’m hearing that there won’t be a dawn
        But rock fighting is pretty much ideal. I mean tough claws accelrock close combat fuck yeah

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  13. So if Dusk is event exclusive, that means literally 99% of its tough claw boosted moves are breeding exclusive ..
    Wow

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  14. “>A new form is started!!
    >A light that comes from another place is affecting some Pokemon in the new Alola!!”

    That’s an interesting way to word it

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  15. Had a thought: Is alt Alola different because, we stole the Postgame Cosmog from the alternate universe and changed history?

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      • I like it, it has tough claws and Accelerock which is pretty damn useful
        And people assume counter is useless but your supposed to use it as a lead sucicide or the game changer last gambit (as long hazards are gone)

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        • Well I’m going to guess this Lycanroc doesn’t have the defenses or HP to tank in order to use counter. I doubt it will be much different than midday in terms of stat spread

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          • Focus sash dude
            I’ve run Midnight Lycanroc and Rhyperior as counter suicides and plenty of people can’t resist trying to one shot it

          • its better to experiment with ideas instead of just making a uncreative ou meta team that has no heart

          • Yeah, but really I think the issue lies with mediocre stats for Lycanroc rather than that. People have no originality when it comes to it because it’s not versatile and is either a glass cannon (midday) or not good enough to tank and not fast enough to sweep (midnight)

          • Rather have that. Spoiling didn’t ruin S/M for me, lack of content did in the end. Still enjoy them..but nothing is really calling me back. Already completed the nat dex and everything, and battle tree is lame

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  16. Another Bandicoot meme and I’ll send you to the abyss faster than you can fall of an edge in the new Crash Trilogy with the new controls.

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    • I think the leaker claimed to have more but wouldn’t upload it until morning in Japan and I just checked and it’s only 5:00 am there so there might be more in a few hours

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  17. Maybe its cause i dont plan on using rockruff that this new form doesnt bother me that much. Itll prolly stay in my pokebox if i ever get it tbh

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  18. I hope it’s not just an event thing, might as well not bother if it is. I don’t care what anyone else says, I like it. I admit they could have changed it a bit more, like had it more hunched over, especially if there’s no Dawn counterpart form.

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    • “Of course, it is very difficult to make the game, so I hope people don’t get their expectations up too high,” Masuda admitted. “We’ll do our best.”

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      • Those are perfect words. Some people expect BOTW with pokemon. Pokemon Switch is still just gonna be a good ol pokemon game, but with some changes.

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          • If they said nothing, people would have too high expectation. Now that they said that, maybe people won’t have too high expectations.

          • Why would they? I wouldn’t expect a BOTW level game, they are very different things. I would think it would be like a combination of Colosseum/XD and Main Games, with better graphics. They need to decide on the style they are going for and then focus on story etc. It probably won’t have Pokemon looking like they do in Pokken for example. i expect it to be at least as good as the main games, which if it is a main game there is no reason it shouldn’t be. The words here paint a negative view imo, like they don’t really know what they are doing.

        • Might as well address this. An open world, BotW-esque, MMO Pokemon game isn’t just a high expectation, it’s an unrealistic and irrational one (in fairness, I’ve never heard anybody expect that on Pokemon dedicated sites). It just seems like such a defeatist attitude to say “we’ll never meet expectations, so lower them or be dissapointed”.

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        • No, it makes it likely that the game will have bugs or some problems like that due to the inexperience with the switch

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      • That literally goes for every game. Game development isn’t a cake walk; not to mention that they’ll be using far superior hardware to the 3DS. Their going to have to understand, work, and fundamentally build their game from the ground up.

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    • expect a game similar to diamond and pearl and x and y, first time on the console so the hardware is new to them

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    • I agree with them. I’ve seen fans going crazy for an open-world Pokemon game! You could have hopes, but keep your expectations leveled.

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  19. People reading too much into Masuda’s comments. He also mentioned that Pokemon Switch is going to be open-world and also people have to keep in mind that this is GF’s first project for the Switch, they are unfamiliar with the system. You cant set your expectations to the highest level

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  20. Would be a bold move by GF if Pokemon Switch is going to be gen 8. Something tells me they’re going to go with an existing region, expand it significantly to give it that open-world feeling because they want to see how the system handles Pokemon first.

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    • Something tells me its going to be Generation 8. Open-world concept is rather different for Pokemon to implement. Going seemingly traditional, but pulling elements from titles such as Breath of the Wild and Horizon Zero: Dawn would allow for some open-world elements to utilized. Basically, more branching paths, larger environments, and more rewards.

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    • you think they will take it that far with switch? my guess is just normal pokemon game with good graphics. there really doesnt need to be much more after that, and i didnt think people expected this much more. If anything i think they would try to be like colosseum/xd style graphics but better of course not move to open-world. just cuz zelda did it does it mean pokemon needs to also lol

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    • I think the most convincing one (off the top of my head) is the fact that the third and final Null is in Sinnoh (and they were created there).

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  21. Nrgghhhhjjjhghhhhuiiijnjjj…….
    One of my dog’s attacked the other again…………tore off a nail and punctured her ear……WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME DONT I HAVE ENOUGH STRESS ADDING TO MY PTSD
    she’s gonna be fine she just needs to heal………
    *Flops unconsciously*

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    • My dogs fight but it’s mostly playful, if very noisy. I don’t like it when they bite each others throats though, or drag each other by the neck. Anyway hope yours are OK and can be sorted out.

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        • Well just remember it is what dogs do, sometimes they get a bit rough and there’s not alot you can do about it except separate and train them. Don’t feel bad about it yourself.

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          • No…..if my dad wasn’t home or if I wasn’t home they would’ve never stopped……it was a blood frenzy……..they would’ve kept doing that until they killed……

          • What breed are they? Dogs can be trained out of certain behaviours. Of course it could be to do with the breed or the dogs mental state, perhaps there is some reason for their behaviour that you have yet to discover?

          • It’s all mental
            Ones extremely retarded and the other gives the stink eye which provokes him

          • If you can’t train them out of it it may be best to keep them separated, hard as that may be. Unfortunate decisions may be ahead but both of their well-beings are at stake. Sorry to hear of your troubles with them, I hope it can be resolved for the best.

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  22. i wonder if they will find a way to prevent new pokemon files thru the creation of multiple profiles. idk something tells me they will find a way around it, otherwise i cant wait to be able to play a game multiple times without fear of having to delete data.

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    • I don’t think they’ll ever allow for more than one save file. I mean look at Zelda BOTW. Even it doesn’t allow for more than one save. Sure they’re different developers, but if Aonuma isn’t willing to do it why would GF? The closest we’ll get to multiple saves is the ability to have different accounts on the Switch. If you want to play a Pokemon game over then you have to create a new Switch account to do so. That’s likely how it’ll be.

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      • thats what i meant. profiles = switch accounts. cant you just make a new profile on your switch and play zelda? i know people who do this due to sharing a system. its like the wiiu. if two people share a wiiu, you create 2 profiles for each person and this allow for different files for games

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        • Ooooh sorry I must have glossed over you saying that. then in that case we’re on the same page lol But yeah the only way to play thorugh the same Pokemon game will likely be by making a new Switch account. So if someone wants to play whatever gen 8 is more than 8 times then they’ll be in trouble hahaha

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  23. You know what? the more I look at it the more I actually like Lycanroc Dusk. I find it way more interesting than Midday and the fact that it appears to have a mix of both Midday and Midnight’s move sets makes it way more attractive. Plus it’s got Tough Claws as an ability which isn’t bad at all. I even think the motif is a bit more interesting as well. Being evolved by what appears to be a different way than just during the day or at night could be interesting.

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    • idk im still not buying it. also it looks like its going to be an event like ash greninja to an extent. why else would they be giving away a rockruff

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      • Idk. They may be giving away Rockruff in an event, but you’d still need a way IN game to cause the evolution to dusk form. Otherwise they’d just give away dusk form and not Rockruff. It may have a Z move, but we’ll just have to see about that.

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        • dusk form is the name, inb4 dusk stone evolution lol. altho highly unlikely. tbh tho it wouldve been nice to call the sequels just Pokemon Dawn and Pokemon Dusk. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon still seems odd to me. its just different

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          • Seeing how Dusk Stone is called Darkness Stone (or relating to darkness) in Japanese, it isnt likely. I think that Rockruff will be only way. Which sucks. We already have mythical Pokemon why do we need mythical evolutions too??

          • oh so you think the dusk form is event like too? this is exactly what i mean by my earlier form. the idea that they are giving away a rockruff for this new form

          • I think it will be like Zorua and Zoroark. First game requires event to have them, then after this they will some sort of method

  24. http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
    Idk if you guys have seen it yet or not but Im posting it and I have some comments
    #1. I know they werent asked about USUM, but seriously NOTHING on USUM?? Im really starting to feel like its like them getting a little bit of cash, but their main focus is Pokemon Switch. USUM will be just be lifeless.
    #2. When they say things are going to be different, I hope they mean it. Like BOTW. I know they wont/cant make it like that, but as open world as it can be. Im gonna be so mad if it just looks the same as past 3d games
    #3. Why did they look at the same type of comments asking for open world? Look at the other ones like “Where’s the BF!?” or “Do we get any Post game??”
    #4. In response to that 40 hourish. They hesitated. I dont like the sound of that. I know 40 hours is a long time, and probably unrealistically long (depending on the person) for a pokemon game. I wish they could do something 40 hourish. That would be BEAUTIFUL!
    #5. They said they look at reviews and their feedback, but do they care? Sure you can hear to people, but you dont have to listen to it. I just want to know what extend do they listen

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      • They’re only 40+ with post game.
        BW2 were deep games pre and post main game. More than Platinum. Why don’t you include BW2?
        ORAS with delta, mirage and sidequests is close to 40 depending on how quick a game is played. Atm im 50+ having just completed delta episode.
        Can’t comment on XY. BW from memory had a huge main game but post game included I’d say easily over 30/35.

        In other words they do give a shit.

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        • Except the post games are tiny ever since black and white 2. Mirage spots don’t even come close to what Gen 4 and B2W2 had. They’re getting lazier and making their fan base lazier by not trusting them to keep playing the game

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      • SM alone took me 55 hours until end credits. I don’t think 40 hours is that unobtainable.

        It really feels like they’re doing everything they can PR-wise to kill hype for their upcoming games.

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    • ok seriously, i agree botw was a great game trust me i really do, but can we not compare everything to botw. I dont think botw can be “the standard” for every video game nintendo makes from now on. we havent even gotten some of the good games that arent botw. i get it, its nice to have the open world and freedom and it looks like mario odyssey will be somewhat open world as well. i just dont think it can work for pokemon. remember pokemon is short for pocket monsters because of the fact that the systems pokemon games were on were handhelds and could fit in your pocket and therefore you had monsters in your pocket. the switch cannot really do this. but i just dont see how pokemon can make such a giant transition. Zelda for the most part has always had a level of freedom in games. you were able to go wherever you wanted, in OoT there were places like Lon Lon Ranch where you could get epona which i dont believe was required. in twilight princess there was a lot of freedom in terms of just a lot of area and i think you could do the last few dungeons in the order you want (not 100% positive on this) and then we had skyward sword which had you fly on a loftwing and thee were small floating islands you could explore. so there has been this level of freedom which eventually led to botw level open world and freedom. Pokemon isnt the same. if they are going to do it there needs to be some sort of transition. maybe allow us to do the gyms in any order we want which can sorta be utilized by the new system of hms sun and moon introduced. it doesnt seem hard to make this happen or something of the like. bw2 was a perfect transition to x and y. the buildings became more 3d as well as a lot of the areas like the bridges and gyms and constant movement of pokemon battles that slowly evolved (pun intended) over pokemon games. i just dont see anything there yet. there is so much a switch game can bring and im sooo excitied to find out but lets see what usum brings to the table in terms of being the last 3ds game. i totally didnt think about it but technically the switch is still handheld but i would love to see a main game pokemon game on tv as a main game version of colosseum and xd. I know this is too longbut thanks for taking the time to read

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      • While I don’t agree that Pokemon couldn’t work in an open world format, I definitely agree that BotW shouldn’t be held as the standard for every game. Of course, anyone can hope for that, but expecting Pokemon Switch to be an open world MMO experience is unrealistic. Just give me a core Pokemon experience that’s a lot more fleshed out than the 3DS games and we’re golden.

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          • I actually think an open world Pokemon could work really well, but it’s unfair to expect it of GF for Pokemon Switch.

          • I feel the same (but not about open world), but I’ve heard people on other sites claiming that they fully expect a huge MMO for the next game. While that’s unrealistic to expect, I don’t think it’s too much to want a game that’s more detailed and has more content than the 3DS games. SM were fantastic games until you hit the post game, where not only was there not enough content, it was lacking in some unexpected areas (not all mega stones, no national dex, etc). If it just had a little more fuel to keep me going and fixed some issues (ugh festival plaza), then I think it could easily be my favorite game of the series, but as it stands it’s just so bare bones. I was hoping USUM would be the fix that I desired, but at this point I don’t know.

            Whew, sorry for that tangent.

      • I was comparing it to BoTW because that’s the most recent open world thing everyone talks about. I know it cant be as great as Botw and it won’t be. But I mean in open world aspect how open world can it be. Personally idk if I would like a massive open world because open world games aren’t good to me. But I do want to notice clear difference between past games and this game.
        The BOTW comparison was mainly used to show the difference between past and recent games graphically and open wprldy wise. Probably wasn’t the best because I don’t even know what game came before BOTW, but everyone said BOTW was so innovative, so I want Pokemon to be like that.

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    • 1. Pokemon Switch interview, I don’t know why people here expected US/UM to be mentioned; but I do agree with the lack of info on the game.
      2. They’re going to try their best to utilize the Switch to the fullest!
      3. The interviewer likely selected the comments.
      4. Their not making a Pokemon game that’s 40 hours long.
      5. Every developer looks at feedback. You cannot continue to make games without knowing how your fans feel! They obviously can’t do everything fans want (like the fans that want all seven regions in one game), but they’ll take reasonable suggestions.

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  25. HANG ON

    DO YOU REALIZE THEY SPENT RESOURCES MODELING RUN MODELS AND ANIMATIONS FOR EVERY SINGLE POKÉMON WITHOUT TESTING IF THEY WORK THEN TAKING UP DATA AND INFLATED THE FILE SIZE

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  26. Imo they’re following a bad marketing strategy. What’s the point on announcing a switch game when you have just announced a 3ds game that would need all the attention because it’a a sequel not really (yet) appreciated? Why do you release an interview on a game that will be out in one or two years when you have a game that will be out in 3 months and that at the moment is not that appreciated because of the lack of informations?

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    • They have no clue themselves I suppose. Announcing USUM was a mistake, they could have gone without releasing new games for a year.

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      • They are working on these games (usum) since sun & moon were announced so there’s no way they just cancel them. The point is: if you have to promote two new games, promote and focus on them. This switch thing simply distracted everyone fron usum and this is bad for them imo. People are looking for a switch console for next year while Gf shoud motivate them to keep their eyes on buying a game for a console they will not use anymore next year.

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    • This exactly! Unless USUM turn out to be some kind of amazing thing we never expected (I doubt it) then this will have been a huge mistake. They might as well have taken the year off and focused entirely on the Switch game

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    • To add to that: the announcement of USUM provoked concerns among some fans that the games would be cash grab rehashes, and what do they do to calm the fans? Wait two months for the cement to dry, and then announce something that gives the fans even more reason to worry.

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      • Feels like they are hurting the image of the brand more than by just waiting to announce the Switch game and releasing nothing else. I fear they underestimated the demand for a Switch installment and had to change development abruptly to focus on Switch, neglecting USUM.

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        • I say the other way around. I think that development was mostly focused on Switch after SM, but due to the initial success of the Switch, Nintendo told them to hold off on the Switch game to beef up the 2018/2019 line-up, since stock issues are expected to persist through already high demand this year. So, instead of focusing this extra time on developing Pokemon SW, they’re now scrambling to push out another 3DS title this year to fill the gap, using already made SM assets.

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        • Idk if they underestimated anything. We’re all forgetting the rage everyone had after usum was announced. Revealing the switch game saved them so much skin.

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    • Exactly. USUM is a waste. I would’ve waited another year if it meant the Switch game coming out faster and better. If they just said that they were making a Switch game and never announced USUM they would be much better off

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  27. GameFreak fucking itself over: the timeline

    March 2017: Switch is released
    June 2017: Ultra Sun and Moon announced. Only 20 second of footage, never explains what the games are. Still on 3DS. Retailers list them as Switch games by mistake. Everyone hates it.
    June 2017: No information on USUM
    July 2017: Switch game announced. No info on USUM
    August 2017: Dusk Lycanrock revealed. Looks extremely similar to Mid Day leading to more fans thinking these games are cashgrabs with minimal effort put into them
    August 2017: GameFreak does a terrible interview that makes fans worry for not only USUM but the Switch version too. No information on USUM

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      • The problem imo is that they cannot follow a proper marketing line. They litterally bombed us with information for sun & moon. Now it’s been two months of nothing apart for that lycanroc that has not even a different 3d model than the midday form…What’s their problem? August has always been the month of huge reveal (Mega evolution, Z moves and Alola forms). This month? Pokenki and dusk form…We don’t even have the box art

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        • Tbf some people are expecting a full open world experience and I just can’t see that happening yet
          But yeah I’d rather them be more confident about it which might not be a good sign

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          • Also I’m worried about how little UltraSM info we have gotten, but I’m expecting more at worlds. If there is nothing at worlds I will be worried even more

        • I disagree. A standard RPG is between 22-26 hours excluding some obvious longer titles.

          You should be keeping your expectations low. You got fans wanting a massive open-world game, which GameFreak is kinda obviously not making.

          They’re answers seemed confident. Why would seasoned developers all of a sudden be worried for just moving hardware?

          Also, it was an interview about the Switch Pokemon Game. Of course their not going to mention US/UM.

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    • Why would fans worry? It was a solid interview. I can’t image their excitement to finally be able to work on a system with some power behind it!

      Why does everyone act like they weren’t working on this Switch title earlier? They literally hired a more staff in March with PS Vita and Wii U experience for a new Pokemon game. Development for the Switch Pokemon title likely started in 2015. That interview only provided some context towards the Switch title.

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  28. I feel like a total mess right now…
    Is near 9:30 and I haven’t left my room yet
    I used to get up at 6 everyday and do shit but my sleep schedule is donked

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  29. I know a lot of people have concerns about USUM being lazy or being below expectations. I also know that people seem to be upset with gamefreak recent Gen 8 switch game interview, but personally I think they are going to do a good job. I think we need lower expectations, because to be brutally honest they have a lot of work to do in a short period of time. They probably have to redo or redefine many of their 3d models to upscale them. The also have to make sure that it will run good docked and undocked. There are other things as well. USUM will be as lazy as what people thought Platinum, and Black and White 2 were. To be honest these games being the 3rd for a particular region didn’t add much. Platinum had different forms for legendaries, and rotom forms. Black and White 2 had the 2 new forms for kyurem, and the 3 therian forms. As for the people who think Lycanroc Dusk is just a reskin, I partially agree with you, but you honestly can’t blame them, because the have seen the success of reskins from games like Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter and they figure they can cash in on it as well since it works for their competitors. What I am saying is that we need to have our expectation at a level in which we can trust them to make coherent games that have a small part of what we want. I am sorry if this sounds like a rant. I am just tried of people doubting them in the general sense.I wouldn’t necessarily call this fanboying either. I considering this not counting my chickens before the eggs hatch.

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    • I think gen 8 will be great, but USUM are…..Well I still don’t know. We still know almost nothing about it so I’m still keeping an open mind, but it certainly isn’t looking to be an exciting addition to the series. We shall see

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      • I think they might not be showing as much, since this is effectively a sequel in their eyes. I am hoping that they give us a longer trailer soon. I suspect that we might get on on Friday at the earliest and the end of the month at the latest. They really don’t have that much time to work with to promote and advertise for USUM. We are roughly about 3 months away from the games. So, we are going to see about 3 more corocoro leaks, but within this time it would be nice if they gave us a few trailers.

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        • I’m not sure it’s a sequel tho. If it was, it wouldn’t be getting half as much flack as it has. Obviously we still don’t know for sure, but it certainly doesn’t look like a sequel

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  30. Drampa Dusk form
    Psychic/Dragon
    Abilities: Anger Point, Sap Sipper and Cloud Nine (HA)
    Only obtainable during sunset

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  31. Moon Nuzlocke team (finishing Akala rn)

    Oliver (Dartrix) lv30
    Pongo (Herdier) lv29
    Scratchit (Persian) lv28
    Felicia (Finneon) lv25
    Ralph (Shieldon) lv15

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    • I restarted my games (I have both versions) and I just finished the first trial.

      Jeff (Sun) team
      Litten
      Trumbeak
      Pichu
      Meowth

      Cosimo (Moon) team
      Popplio (last go around I had Rowlet, so trying out Popplio now)
      Trumbeak
      Growlithe
      Misdreveous

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  32. So, poll time…

    1. Do we think they’ll have Lycaron Dawn also?
    2. Do you think Dusk will just be rock type?
    3. What’s your favorite Lycanroc evolution?

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  33. Are any of you excited for the live action (Teen) Titans Series? The team will be simmilar to the one on the cartoon(s), just without cyborg, maybe with the addition of Kid Flash (the one from the CW’s Flash) and with a Robin that already turned into Nightwing. Nightwing and Starfire will be in their 20s, Raven and beast boy in their early teens. Raven is the only one that has a confirmed actor at the moment, it’s the 13 year old Teagan Croft.

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  34. Lets get some opinions running.
    Top 5 Favorite Mythical Pokemon.
    Bottom 5 Least Favorite Mythical Pokemon.
    Refresher: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Darkrai, Manaphy, Shaymin, Arceus, Genesect, Meloetta, Keldeo, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Magearna, Marshadow

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  35. I’m looking forward to the exactly two other forms we’ll probably get in the new game, both of which will be through events or story

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  36. Seriously Pokémon, why are you struggling so much at everything? You make games that have a shitton of potential but use none of it

    Alola would have been the perfect region to have countless cities and even end game areas scattered about….
    But we got SuMo’s Poni Island which was clearly fun to like one person

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  37. It’s funny how a random idea I saw on 4chan while leak searching gave a better USUM idea than literally anywhere else I’ve seen

    Therian Tapus

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  38. Wait a second what if we have these Therian form tapus backwards
    wouldn’t these be technically incarnate forms since they take the incarnation of their beast?

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    • Because i’m leaning towards a whole Confined and Unbound approach
      Like the small Hoopa form we all see is actually it’s lesser state while its unbound is its true form
      so the way i see it
      The Tapus we see now are their spiritual forms while their incarnation form would be their physical form

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      • I think that these incarnation forms might be a logical approach for USUM. I like the idea as much as I like the therian forms since it adds a little bit more of a complexity to them. Plus Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu can finally get Play rough or a good physical fairy attack.

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  39. I have officially started making my first game! The name is “Butter Quest” and it’s just an execise for me to gain some experience in using RPGmaker.

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  40. My new dilemma: do I order a Metroid New 3DS XL through GameStop or risk waiting until it appears on Walmart/Amazon (if it does at all)? First world problems, I swear…

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        • (Are you being a douche or you serious) Seriously Necrozma is just nothing but a gigantic mystery
          -What is is and where’d it come from
          -body composition
          -Behavior and ecology
          -special properties
          -is it truly an ultra beast or a by-product of ultra space radiation

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          • Additional ”evolution” of Cosmoem when it becomes corrupted due to prolonged exposure from Ultra Space

    • This z-ring is the same that the trainers from Ula Ula use, so the theory is that Ula Ula is the second island and we receive the z-ring there

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        • Well they’d argue it isn’t a separate Pokemon so you can still get the ‘dex entry. The thing is they either have to keep having events for it or it disappears as you say after the initial event period, both of which are dumb for something like this.

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    • I’m just hoping that their just distributing a Rockruff, but every Rockruff could evolve into Dusk Form. If not, this is kinda ridiculous! We just need an official trailer already.

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    • Greninja 2.0 basically -_-

      Also that almost confirms no Dawn form and that SUCKS because Dusk has barely any element from Midnight in it >:[

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    • I don’t agree with making Dusk Lycanroc event exclusive, but they’ve done this in the past. Shaymin Sky Form was event exclusive (as Shaymin itself was) for Platinum. Those Pichu were event exclusive, the Pikachu hat things, etc. I don’t like the idea in general, but I’m just saying it’s nothing new.

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      • Lycanrock Dusk is totally different though. Shaymin was already even exclusive, the pichus were removed after HGSS, and the Pikachu hats are for some movie in the future.
        Lycanrock is an evolution of an already existing Pokémon. That’s some garbage right there

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      • You can still get Shaymin Sky though, Gracidea is put into every game now. Spiky eared Pichu isn’ta form, it was a little quirk of a Pichu that they decided to have in the games for a bit. The hat Pikachu don’t have different stats or Abilities, so kinda different. A closer example would be Cosplay Pikachu, but at least you could get that any time in ORAS, though it actually annoys me too because you can’t transfer it.

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    • I’m torn as to whether or not it actually will be event exclusive. It could just be a exclusive event one that’s supposed to be Ash’s and then you can get a regular one in game??
      They’re definitely making lore surrounding Lycanroc completely fucked if it is though

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  41. Although i personally have no problems with Dusk form, i dont hope that this means Ash’s other Pokemon in the anime will be getting the ”Torterra and Noivern treatment” because they want to focus everything on his Lycanroc smh

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  42. This wording on Serebii doesn’t say it is the only one capable, just that it is capable: “which they’re listing as a “Special Rockruff” that can evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc.”, is this just the wording and I’m reading it as there is a possibility that others can evolve into it or is it really the only one. Special could just mean it has Ash’s OT or it has the requirements to evolve into it already.

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  43. The more I think about it, the more I think about how much I’m worried that they are just going to fuck up sun and moon. I really do love Sun and Moon other than the shit postgame. USUM seems like they’re taking Sun and Moon and adding a bunch of unnecessary stuff like Lycanrock Dusk to drag it down

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    • Its hard to say because we dont really have info on the new games. I assume its because the last thing they want to do is over-advertise the games like they did with ORAS. I still have my hopes up but at the same time my expectations aren’t too high more in the middle area. I’m still gonna buy the games regardless though because well, i love the series that much

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      • But like, there’s not revealing everything about a game, but then there’s a point where WE NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE GAMES.

        It’s coming out in November ffs

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        • Dont get me wrong i want them to reveal stuff about the game. They might just be planning to flood all news in the last 2 months, only god knows.

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    • USUM seems like it might just fuck what little of a timeline there is left. REALLY hope it’s not the alternate dimension bull

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  44. What if Red wasn’t actually all mysterious on Mt.Silver and was just looking for Moltes and got lost and just decided to go to Alola with blue after losing a battle against some random kid with a lugia

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  45. Whenever I listen to the Sun and Moon soundtrack while doing homework I just keep thinking of a sun and moon comic and changes I would make

    – More development for the trial captains
    – More backstory for the Aether family and Guzma
    – Lunala (because I like Moon more so it would be moon) isn’t just given to the protagonist. They hold onto it and train it until Lillie returns and she’s confident as a trainer
    – Hau is more of an actual human being and not constantly happy
    – Trial Captains and Kahunas deal with UBs
    – More explanation of Guzma’s motives and backstory
    – Mina is just all over the place in the BG drawing stuff and being her cool weird self
    – Lusamine actually does something in her Mother Beast form other than just boosting her Pokémon

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          • First off I hope they take all of the improvements that Platinum had. Including Battle Frontier.

            They should expand the story to have some Ultra Beast and Type Null stuff in it.

            I like the idea of a rotom Poketch. Since it will probably be on the Switch, it could be the normal menu stuff like items and Pokémon and all that but then another menu for updated poketch apps

            Really I want towns to be bigger. Make Jubilife City a real city. I wanna be amazed like I was when I first played Platinum.

            I also hope they keep the amazing themes from Sinnoh and up the jazziness. The Jubilife remake theme in X and Y was a good one

  46. Lets be honest as always …..usually I feel most of the common fans opinion r not mature and kinda silly but this dusk form kinda wired I like its colors but they didn’t even change his tail or facial expressions ……the only amazing part about it is those midnight eyes but the big question is y this thing should be hybrid between both forms and y dusk form should be related to the moon ??

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  47. I’d like to see a Pokemon MOBA. Like Smite or Overwatch. It Could be set in a post apocaliptic future with No humans, Where teams of pokemon have to survive. That’d be really cool…

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    • I’d like to see a more mature take on Pokemon. I mean, it could’ve happened with SMT X Fire Emblem since it was originally going to be Pokemon X Fire Emblem. I’d still like it to be a JRPG, but I’d picture it could be made by maybe Atlus.

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  48. Another thing there’s no meaning of making dusk form look much like midday one if there’s no another from looks like midnight form all ppl go for dawn form and I can’t blame them it have midnight hair and glowing eyes yeah it should be something in between and have the midnight shape but if the dusk means sun have disappear wat makes moon disappear??? Eclipse ??
    this pkmn kind worshiping the sun I mean these forms looks like transformation.

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    • Well, people shouldn’t be expecting a full open world just yet which i see a lot of people throwing around. but I am hoping for an above average pokemon game on the switch, and the bar is set pretty high

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      • I am also very happy we didn’t get Stars for the switch, if we are getting a pokemon game on the switch I would rather have a whole new experience.

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  49. In all honestly I really don’t regret taking a break from this place. I’m not trying to pull the jelousy card, but that’s honestly how I feel. I love a little bit of satire but overall the discussions we have on here are rather childish are in the end, meaningless save for a handful of exeptions. Without having to worry about sticking around and contributing to the activity of GoT, I joined a G+ community. The people on there are extremely mature, knowlageable, and overall very cunning with their wording and structure. They abided by the laws of their words, and let them do the work, and that made them incredibly infulential, and not only that, actually fun to be around. I don’t even have to actually know them or be close to them to understand them. Their sentances truely speak for themselves, and I can paint a picture of what are like in real life, which is important if you want to strengthen a bond. I get to not only improve skills I have, but also have a good time with people I consider to have a rather decent connection to. I can also relate to them a lot because they all had similar pasts to me, full of cringeworthy and childish agendas, and but eventually they broke out of their shells and became the knowlageable, influential people I know today. Overall, I do believe that the G+ community I joined changed me, and made me progress as a person, something GoT couldn’t have done in a thousand years Honestly after seeing those results i’m not sure if i can live with myself anymore. we’re all friends here and its quite obvious that we still have our differences despite the fact that we’re all friends here even though we have our subtle differences. those results though made me think differently of all u.. like people that were onces my friends slowly faded out of existence like that one episode of wizards of waverly place when they traveled back in time and accidentally made it so their parents didn’t meet. kinda like that. not only has i been changed abundantly but so has my self. so yeah. got that off my chest. thanks for reading and heres to a better future. together. Be sure to visit http://doskyloft.tumblr.com/post/163930947832/discussion-thread-1

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    • I don’t understand the point of this post. We’re just pissed. It’s ok to be frustrated at something.

      Honestly different communities are for different people. I feel like most people on this site are like friends to me at this point. I don’t know what to say

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          • Because it’s being advertised terribly. I don’t know wtf it is (sequel,AU) because they have never even explained it.

            Everything about it looks like a cash grab. Alternate Story is really easy to make when you already have all the assets. Lycanrock Dusk is the least creative Pokémon in forever. It’s also event only and pure rock type so it’s basically pointless

            GameFreak is hardly mentioning it and it seems like they just want to make money before the Switch game.

            Everything about it is looking really bad and now with only a couple months left they still haven’t showed anything that represents the actual game

          • Coming from experience of reporting about “third games” and remakes for almost a decade now, this amount of info (or lack there of) for a third installation/remake/alternate story into a generation is incredibly common. During Platinum’s pre-release we essentially only got two new forms, and a reveal about the Distortion World and the Battle Frontier. And for B2W2 the only new stuff we got was a look at characters and some places after the time jump, and Black/White Kyurem; and both of those examples were over a few months. In my opinion, I think the fandom is a bit spoiled and has gotten a bit too used to getting LOTS of info pre-release as opposed to previous generations pre-releases. Although part of that is because of the natural shift in marketing strategies recently, so TPCi does everything differently nowadays. And when you think about it up until this point, for the past half decade, we’ve only had new games (XY, ORAS, SM) – no back to back remake or alternate storyline (DP, Pt / BW, B2W2). The main difference between alternate storyline games is the story, and that’s a bit hard to go into detail and hype up without giving everything away.

            As of right now, we only know that USUM is an alternate storyline/take on SM, that the storyline has something to do with Necrozma, and that there are three new forms. And when you compare that to previous third games at this point in their pre-release, it’s the same amount of info.

            That being said, this Dusk Form reveal is only the beginning of USUM’s pre-release – so hold on, ’cause it’s only going to pick up from here!

  50. i know this is completely unrelated to the article but i was curious if anyone saw the gamecube on switch virtual console rumor. thoughts?

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        • that would be cool, i am one for old style games being ported tho lol. something about what they first looked like really gives me a sense of nostalgia and appreciation for how amazing a game could be compared to now

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          • same! i didnt like the 3ds one, but i liked the gc one would love to have that. best part is the fact that you could take switch anywhere. if i had to pick a first game tho it would be Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, hands down, no questions asked

          • I have never played that one either, I have missed out on a lot of gamecube games because I was too young to play them, I would love to play the fire emblem games on the console.

          • gamestop??? man, good luck with that is all i can say. it is probably not available and will never be. also its expensive, one search on amazon or ebay and your jaw will drop

          • i mean if you do emulation then go for it. idk how ebay works i see one on there for like 75 but it says 13 hours left so my guess is its an auction or something?

          • if they freakin release it on vc im buying the second i find out its on there. no freakin joke, they would never ever release a game for 90 bucks on VC but even something like 30-40 i will probably buy, seriously. Its the one game i need on emulation. i have mainly the jp only ones

          • Hell yeah to that! It’s even worse trying to find either of the CG fire emblem games EU. It’s the one games I litrally have to port. I cannot justify playing over 150 in some cases. It’s going to be so funny if they do go Eshop it and suddenly all these overpriced eBay ones get no bids.

          • omg yes. no joke i have always thought that! just watching all the bs prices to meaningless when VC ports finally arrive. i will say the prices are somewhat justified by the games’ rarity. YOu have to remember awakening was the first ever fire emblem game…. as in it only got popular from here

    • Knowing Nintendo thy would just remake the console and sell that. But they should make Virtual console for GC games. They are really popular. I would buy switch for that

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      • lol right? knowing nintendo they will make gc classic and nobody will be able to get their hands on one. i think it would be better for them to start on switch to help with switch sales then screw people over with another impossible to get classic

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    • Wait GameCube on switch rumor? I hope it’s true because I would love to have Luigis mansion and mario sunshine on the go when I finally get a switch!

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  51. Oh another unrelated thing i wanted to mention, anyone see that apollo justice aka ace attorney 4 is coming to 3ds eshop??? so excited, the only one i have played besides the newest one that i didnt care to buy

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      • It’s really annoying for me personally because I REALLY wanted to use it on my team but I hate using event Pokémon. I want to be the OT not some random name. It’s exactly why I didn’t use the event torchic or beldum in x and Omega ruby.

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      • I am starting to wonder with how they have handled it. They barely gave it an announcement in June , announced Pokémon switch a week later and then were tight lipped since. Fast forward to now and this is all we really have and then they are like yeah you can only get it by event btw ^.^ it’s really off putting for me personally

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    • They’ve done event-only Pokemon in the past and it’s only one Pokemon… nothing too major or upsetting about this decision. As far as I know, the Rotom forms were treated the same way.

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      • That is true but it’s still aggravating since I am one of those people who likes to be the OT. All I know is they need to announce something soon because I really not that hyped for USUM at this point.

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        • I can understand that, I’m not a huge fan of Wifi events either. Honestly I have mixed opinions about the whole news drought, because I don’t know if it’s because they’re keeping the game under wraps for the most part or because there really isn’t much to say. I honestly don’t mind if we’re in for some major changes like Gyms and new Ultra Beasts and we don’t find out until very close to launch, but as time goes on expectations also get higher. Maybe we’ll have answers soon, don’t lose hope! Gamefreak doesn’t disappoint too often.

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          • Maybe it’s because of how much news we were given with sun and moon. we pretty much knew the whole pokedex before the games came out. I do wonder how they will approach the news with the generation 8 games because of this.

          • Yeah, I have the same thought. There were few surprises left with the demo datamine, and it was disheartening to see another Pokedex lacking in numbers. Hopefully this will change with time.

          • Honestly a part of me wouldn’t mind them just revealing the cover legends and the starters and let us discover us the other Pokémon ourself. Maybe reveal 5 or so other Pokémon With them but not too many. Don’t even reveal the starters evos. I want the feeling of gen 3 and 4 again. Picking my starter and knowing how it’s going to turn out!

  52. Gonna be honest… I’m not too sure how I feel about a event-locked evolution to a non-event Pokémon. It seems very out of character for the Pokémon Company to do this. I hope we get new forms that aren’t event locked. Because two Necrozma looking forms and a event-locked form isn’t making me want to buy the game at the moment sadly..

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    • Exactly what I am thinking. I am usually always hyped for new Pokémon games. But with ultra sun and ultra moon I feel my hype slowly leaving and I feel more excited for the gen 2 games coming to the eshop. It hurts saying that because I love the Pokémon games.

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      • Yeah its quite a shame. I really hope they change my mind quick. At the moment it isn’t looking good with just three months left to the release..

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        • I am really hoping hey show us something soon to draw me in. Please give me something . New alolan forms, return of gyms something. Just give me something that doesn’t make me scratch my head

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  53. So maybe was just me, but as a child, but I didnt know Wifi events were a thing until Gen 5 (Thats seven years after I started playing)! So I really wonder how kids of today will know. Zorua and the Zoroark thing was a stupid idea because for being cool pokemon they were locked from kids. And once I realized it was a wifi event the DS only used one type of wifi which I didnrt have!

    What type of Signature move is Counter? What type of move is Counter? On a rock type? With probably low HP and defense!

    I know it’s way too early to expect an answer, but what makes this event Rockruff so special? Why can this event ONLY evolve to dusk and not others? Why cant normal Rockruff evolve to others? (I expect answers in game)

    I really wish this thing was bigger than the average day Lycanroc. Just a little thing.

    The eye thing is pretty cool. But eyes turning bright green to red when attacking is weird.

    Lastly, on the right page there are two pictures to the right of Dusk Lycanroc Leg. The top picture its fighting a magmortar. The bottom picture I cant tell what its fighting at all. Any guesses?

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    • I was oblivious to Wifi events until recent too, so I definitely understand you there. I don’t think there will be a huge backstory behind this Rockruff, and it would be a stretch to attribute the changes to Necrozma or anything since it can’t be found through regular play. And the Dusk Lycanroc is indeed fighting an Alolan Raticate xD

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          • It’s pretty sad. Normaly it feels like forever till the game releases because it’s all I’m thinking about. This time it feels like it’s flying by. I really hope they fix this soon. There’s so many good chances for Alolan forms. Such as Shuckle, Dunsparce, and Qwuilfish. Just to name a few!

          • I think it normally feels like forever until the games launch because it is a long period of time–somewhere around 8-9 months from announcement to launch for both XY (Jan-Oct) and SM (Feb-Nov). USUM were announced back in June with the release coming in November, which is almost half the waiting time we’re used to. It seems odd that with three months left we know little to nothing about the games, since SM news came at a steady pace. This could mean that the marketing strategy is different this time around, and the majority of the game could be kept as a surprise, or maybe there really is little to say about the changes without spoiling them all. Never has a third version gone to waste, though, so I’m keeping my hopes up 🙂

          • Very well said. I’m gonna still hold onto that hope. Hopefully it’s not misplaced. Lets hope for something good this month!

    • I am happy I am not the only one either. Felt weird not feeling hyped for a Pokémon game. I am more excited for the new metroid game and the mario and Luigi remake.

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      • if i hadnt already bought super star saga on wiiu eshop like a year or so ago, id care for the remake. its on 3ds which i can barely play (altho echoes is keeping me on it) if i had the spare money sure

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  54. With my slightly annoyed comments out of the way I guess I should introduce myself somewhat. I used to be in the forums until recently. Had to leave it due to some personal issues there. Anyway here I am now finally commenting on the main site and it feels good to be here! Hope to post here more often

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      • Thanks pj! And that moment you probably know who I am lol that said I love your site most of the other ones because people are free to discuss things including rumors. It feels like home I guess? Like I feel comfortable here if that makes any sense

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    • Recently joined as well! Used to be a lurker I guess. Pokejungle is one of my favorite sites to check on the discussion. I was just too annoyed to let this one go though. I had to voice opinions and chat with others. Feels good! Glad I’m here. 🙂

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      • We’re glad you’re here too :p The comments are basically why I run the website; love to hear everyone’s thoughts, even if I don’t have time to contribute much outside of writing the articles most days

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      • I have been lurking on the site myself as well. Had another discus account before but forgot the password so made this one lol

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      • Warm welcome to you 🙂 We’re all one big loving family and new members are always appreciated. I’m Dicie, favorite Pokemon is Dedenne… yeah that’s about it. Enjoy your stay and let me know if you ever need anything!

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  55. With all the dispirited comments I’d just like to add that my hype was struggling to keep up for new information and now it’s officially drained out. Now I’m seriously looking forward only to the switch RPG

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  56. I was pretty excited for Dusk, too. I’ve never been this disappointed before a Pokemon game before. I’m looking forward to the Switch one, at least. :T Maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised? Idk. I’m so bummed.

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  57. Hm, looking at all the comments here….guess I’m the only one here still looking forward to USUM. I trust Gamefreak on what they’re doing. They’re making the games, not us.

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  58. Well I just noticed that my animal crossing new leaf game is missing…..hoping i find it in the car tomorrow because I really don’t want to have to rebuy it and start from scratch. Had the golden axe, all the fossils and the final store upgrade. Even the coffee shop.

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  59. Well, the term killjoy is very relevant right now, so is disappointment, and hateful…
    Not to me in particular, i’m neutral and will buy the games regardless… still, dusk form doesn’t inspire much, but it’s all we got so far, so…

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  60. @Starstorm

    Same. But imagine how big the Cities will be on Switch graphics? Just thinking about it excites me.

    I agree. But mostly they need to apply the Platinum content especially Distortion World.
    Also I’d like an Arceus Delta like storyline, actually I’d love it, No I absolutely want it.

    Aside from that I want Sinnoh to look better like how Hoenn was so beautiful.
    Upgrades to Underground, Secret Bases etc

    And last but not least new formes say for Arceus, maybe even other legendaries. New Heatran form?
    Mega evolutions etc

    I’d like subtle changes to everything.
    IMO the Sinnoh stiry was one of the best but I’d still like small subtle changed here and there.

    I’d like an upgrade to the theme like how in ORAS they added primal/mega evolution theme to plot.
    Maybe in Sinnoh they add something related to time, space or Arceus?

    I think these games would be quite challenging, Sinnoh was always a challenge.
    Cynthia.

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  61. How’s everyone doing today? I am just sitting here at work getting ready to start working lol and I am calmed down some from the whole dusk being exclusive thing.

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