CoroCoro Cover Teases New Lycanroc Form? (UPD)

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The first images of CoroCoro have begun to surface!

As per usual, the cover is first to appear. And upon closer inspection there’s something that looks incredibly Lycanroc-like – albeit with a different color palette and, most notably, green eyes.

This is not confirmed to be related to Pokémon in anyway as of yet, however the similarities are simply uncanny.

Time to weigh in your thoughts! Pokémon, or nah? Are we looking at a dusk/dawn Lycanroc form? Maybe Ash-Lycanroc? And are those Necrozma-like extensions coming out of it?


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1,258 thoughts on “CoroCoro Cover Teases New Lycanroc Form? (UPD)”

  1. Worth noting that in the past there have been CoroCoro covers that have had little no Pokemon content on the cover, but had lots of juicy info inside – take everything with a grain of salt, and have fun speculating!

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    • How much do we actually have to wait for the inside of the magazine? As far as I can remember, it’s stil not leaking time. I might be wrong though.

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      • Corocoro releases early in august so it’ll leal earlier than usual aswell. Propably in the next couple days it’ll leak;)

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  3. Surely it has two forms? Doubt they’d give Ash a Pokemon that is powered up by a legendary, would be insanely OP

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  5. it’s interesting…… It really seems like it’s a strange hybrid of the two forms… At least what I can make out of it …..

    HOW EXCITING!!!! =D

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  13. So, how is everybody doing in Sage? I’m on route 5 and my team is:
    Melter the Pyroat lv 23
    Pickaxe the Koblin lv 15
    Caesar the Alpint lv 15
    Proffesor Yak the Psybex lv 15

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  17. Well time for more Sage,
    I just found this tropical place and my Rocano evolved into Volcaroc and I’m loving it

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  18. Whatever it is it looks like it has the hair of Admin Mars fron DDPT. I feel like these next few months are gonna be information overload because if how close to the release date we’re getting

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  19. Hmmmmmm so that may be a new form huh? I’m surprised it’s so similarly colored to midnight form. Also I’m not holding my breath for Pokenchi. I’ll believe it when I see it hahaha

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  21. Literally my first day of summer break. Thought I could sleep in, relax, game a little… but no. Gotta wake up at 7:45 to cover Pokémon news :'(

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  22. To add a little something onto Ozy’s comment, Pokenchi has also promised information many times and dissapointed. I want to be optimistic, but they don’t have the best track record.

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  24. So I looked on Serebii and it said that Pokenchi is 19:00 EDT. That would place Japan at 8:00 tomorrow. My question is…will we know if Pokenchi is once again revealing nothing worthwhile at 19:00 EDT today?

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  26. Aah so excited! I’ll probably be up at midnight playing Persona anyway, bought my own copy today! ☺

    Shiny Rockruff, Persona 5, USUM news. A good 24 hours! ☺

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  30. Sageboi is here
    Anywho, good to know backstabbing Rock asshole has another form to evolve into! Tbh it’s probably going to be another pathetically weak mono rock type with a cool appearance with a “signature move” like stone edge or something ;3

    Or at least I hope it’s something so we know GF didn’t forget these games existed my dude

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      • But it attacked it for no reason
        Even if it didn’t faint its still an ass move
        I would get on Rowlet if it did that

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        • It couldn’t help itself, it’s grown restless due to being near evolution. That’s literally nearly all of its lore

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          • Okay?
            You realize I called it Rock Asshole as a joke right? I don’t think I’d term it like that if I was serious

            I’d use something along the lines of “piece of shit” , y’know?

          • You never know ;3
            I mean… we do have Earthen on this site

            So anything is possible really

  33. Assuming this Lycanroc form is somehow connected to Necrozma, I think its highly possible that Ash will receive an anime-exclusive form similar to Ash-Greninja but it wont be significantly more powerful than other Mons imo.

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  37. My favorite Pokemon type is dog
    Y’know, beats dragon and fairy
    Weak to normal
    Stuff like stoutland, Houndoom, Dustox

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  38. Fun fact: Once in a nuzlocke I got a Dustox, got kinda pissed off and named it something random
    Enter Dog the Dustox

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  39. So if it’s something new. What do you think Pokenchi will show? The Coro Coro magazine cover is already showing the supposed new Lycanrock form so I would think that it might be first shown in Coro Coro. But what would they show on Pokenchi? Or I could just be wrong.

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  42. I’m tired, groggy, bloated and smell like a rotting bobcat,
    But hopefully tonight will be the night it lights a mighty flame under our collective asses

    Also I’m deciding if I wanna 100% Ocarina of Time 3D

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    • That’ll remove the purpose of the coloured nectars,but i’d cool to have the possibility of using the nectar in battle to change the form

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          • You just fight a lower leveled enemy but this move doesn’t make sense anyways, it’s stated multiple times that only nectars can only change Oricorio’s form so it won’t make sense for Oricorio to change the form without any nectar whatsoever and randomly like that.

            Just because USUM is an alternate dimension doesn’t mean that literally anything can happen.

  46. Well Sage Update
    After braving the wilderness i have stumbled onto a lovely bay side town with a Water Gym Leader, but i want to grind my team to the 30s before that
    Badges: 2
    Iguadium 29
    Cubzero 24
    Minarac 22
    Alpint 25
    Volcaroc 25
    Slatic 26

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  47. So after looking again, I noticed that this Lycanroc has the facial structure of Midday and the manes of Midnight. Fusion/hybrid form?

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  53. Gen 8 should just be 100% new evolutions for old pokemon with no new pokemon. Just go on a mass evolving spree and make every shitty pokemon they’ve ever made actually worth caring about, which includes megas for fully evolved pokemon and stat reassignments. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      • Lol plasma was wayy better than aether and skull, tbh skull was bad and the aether being evil ‘twist’ was badly executed.

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          • I don’t even know what skull wanted, like why were they with aether? What did the team hope to achieve? Why was gladion there? They never felt like a threat, and you just go and take over there hideout without any buildup and lusamine shows up and is just like ‘btw im crazy’

          • I guess the whole thing was that guzma was following Lusamine because she was the only one who recognized his power and made him not feel like shit. Honestly though, I feel like their organizations definitely should have been collaborating more, it felt thrown together at the last minute. And I would’ve liked to see internal drama from both skull and aether members about them having to work together

          • Skull and aether members didn’t even know they were working​ together.. i think? Since there was a small dispute shown in the game

        • No???

          Skull was great because it was actually a group of people and not robots with motives that make no sense. They are a bunch of disillusioned kids who are alone and want a family. That’s why Plumeria is referred to as like a sister. Meanwhile you have magma over here. Why the hell are these people following Maxie? Did try not think for 2 seconds that you can’t just get more land,

          Even if the AETHER twist was obvious, it’s still great. They have a great story with Lusamine and Lillie and Gladion. Type Null leads into the darker parts of their plans. But despite the corruption, AF is genuinely trying to help Pokémon. It’s so good

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          • Yes, but like what was the team trying to do? Why was guzma with Aether. And you’re talking about how they weren’t robots but i didn’t feel any personality from any of team skull.

            Aether was badly done, lusamine is a great villian but aether is crap. You go there once, the game shows you there good. Then without any buildup it jusy says lillie was taken there. I’m going to ignore how Stupid it is that the Mohn thing wasn’t​ mentioned in the main plot, even then the story and the teams aren’t well thought out. The only thing well thought about whole of sm is lillie.

          • Clearly you didn’t pay attention at all because they explain it multiple times. Guzma was with Lusamine because she was the only adult who treated him like he was a strong trainer. Guzma grew up in an abusive household so someone to validate him is very important. This also makes Lusamine even more evil because she is taking advantage of him.

            Skull steals Pokémon, then supplies them to AF so they can keep up this image that they are saving pokemon from team skull.

            And I don’t know how you can call Aether badly done. They are set up through out the entire region. You see houses and trailers around the region. They give you so much explanation and small hints about their true intentions.

            Gladion also is there to make you question AF. IN THE BEGINNNG OF THE GAME LILLIE IS RUNNING AWAY FROM THE AETHER FOUNDATION

          • A lot of this information isn’t conveyed clearly tho. You shouldn’t be spoon-fed but you shouldn’t have to dig so deep

          • Mostly the Aether stuff tbh, I just don’t find it well explained. Good for you if you figured it out but clearly some others didn’t which isn’t good as they’re the driving force of the game

          • No it’s not. At all. It’s all in the game.

            Plumeria explains why Guzma is with Lusamine on Poni Island

            Guzma’s dad and the broken golf clubs.

            He never got to be a trial captain

            Guzmas redemption in post game

  56. I am just dying to know about U-Solgaleo and U-Lunala. I know it’s a hybrid of Necrozma and one of the mascots, but I want to find out their abilities, potential z-moves they might have, and some lore behind them.

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  57. I swear if it’s an ash-lycanrock form some one at Pokemon will die… Jk but srsly a new lycanrock form would make a lot of sense

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  58. I really just want a confirmation that there will be more new Alolan forms in these games, especially from Gen 2. It would be awesome if we got some Gen 3 as well, but I doubt it.

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  66. Well it has been about a week since I posted Alola Meganium so it’s about time for the next one of the trio:

    The next of the hypothetical Alola-form Johto starters (and how I think Gamefreak should do them) that I will be talking about is my favorite of the three Johto Starters and also a possible reason why they might not do Alola-form Johto starters. The reason being that making one for Typhlosion without making it an entirely different Pokemon (think Marowak vs Alola Marowak with the complete type change) is kind of hard and unlikely since it is a starter so it’s primary typing is trademark to it. I describe more about it down below. Please let me know what you think and next time will be the final one of the trio.

    Alola Typhlosion
    Fire/Normal
    Ability: Blaze -> Technician

    It’s kind of hard to come up with an Alolan form that would vastly improve upon Typhlosion. It was one of my favorite Pokémon back when I got Pokémon Gold and absolutely rocked in-game. However, this is before Gen 4’s physical/special split. Many of Typhlosion’s moves are physical while its strongest stab moves are special. They could just keep it specialized but then issue is the not so diverse Special movepool that it has. Thus, it would be probably be in Alola Typhlosion’s best interests if they change its movepool post-evolution to have strong special Normal-Type attacks-which is unlikely considering only Hyper Voice and Boomburst are stronger than Swift. This is the reason why I would say that Alola Typhlosion would benefit from having Technician so it could boost the power of Swift. My reasoning behind Fire/Normal is that if I am following the Chinese Zodiac correctly, Typhlosion is based on the rat a Pokémon that is traditionally Normal type . (An exception of course being Pikachu). Also Typhlosion already learns a large number of Normal type moves. An argument could be made for Fire/Rock, Fire/Steel due to it learning both rollout and gyro ball. To do this the variant will need to be physical and that would mean ignoring the rare new move that it was given this Generation called Burn Up. Typhlosion also doesn’t have the bulk or speed to sacrifice for it to be a worthwhile mixed attacker, unless Gamefreak were to go down the Fire/Steel route which has been displayed to be a fantastic defensive typing for a Fire type by the likes of Heatran. There isn’t really much to base off of in terms of TMs if we are staying with the special variant because the few that Typhlosion has might be strong, but are also unreliable and seem only to be included for the extra coverage.

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  69. Ngl I just want info on what the mascots are, hoping they’re not totally boring and that they either change types or get new abilities (looking at you Kyurem)

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  70. The soundtrack for Sun and Moon is probably the best in the series tbh… so many themes are heard throughout the region. The Alola Region theme is all over the place, The Aether Foundation theme is in Guzmas theme and.. it’s just so gooood

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  72. The most important element of these games for me will be the variety of Pokémon. They have said that there will be Pokémon not found in Sun and Moon, which is a great start. I will likely want to shiny hunt in one or both of these versions, so having a wide range of options would be awesome.

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  76. No, here’s my actual number-one wish for USUM (or any future Pokémon game): the ability to choose between 2D sprites or 3D models. I know this will probably never happen, but I feel like I would be more inclined to play Pokémon if they looked like how I remember from my childhood. Anyway, post your pipe dreams here.

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  78. TBH I feel bad for USUM..
    All the aggression Pokémon fans have for the issues of the series has been directed at them over various things… I just hope they’re really good

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    • For me the only way usum will be good is if they do something like bw where it was that beginning transition into 3D for Pokemon. Usum should be the transition from 3ds pixel outlined 3D to switch 3D.

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      • Yeshhh
        TBH I felt a real bit of wonder when I started playing SuMo, I adored it… but that disappeared after a while… Black and whites wonder never vanished

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        • Ohhhh and another thing. Get rid of z moves. Megas can stay because I’ve grown to like a few such as medicham but z moves gotta go. Also sun moon were the first games that actually put importance into the story but failed with competitive play after. I beat the game and loved the story but I couldn’t get back into competitive that I did back in xy

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  80. SuMo was basically a Pokémon game with the most potential in the entire series and could have been perfect but all the the things that would have made it perfect were either underutilized or ignored
    Hence why I’m excited for USUM, which I hope fixes this

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  86. Game freak: hasn’t made a truly good game since 2010ish
    4chan team: had internal conflicts, is 4chan, probably lacks GFs resources, makes possibly the best Pokémon game ever, aka Sage

    Jesus fucking Christ GF please step it up

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  87. Ok guys I feel like everyone should already know this by now but remember. Do not overhype this. It can be something so little.

    On the other hand, I believe they announced bw2 on one of these Pokemon shows. I remember it like it were _____ years (whenever they were announced). I was watching the show being streamed by some guy and he went nuts when they announced them

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  89. So I decided “maybe I should give battleborn another chance! Let’s check the updates!”

    …still nothing… even the most loyal people are getting pissed off…
    And I’m kinda glad I dropped it

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  91. Favorite 3rd version/Sequel? I absolutely loved Platinum, I logged in so many hours of playing on it before I lost the cartridge.

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  94. Black and White’s level of story
    Platinum’s Post game
    And everything HGSS

    These were the ingredients for the perfect Pokemon Games. But Professor Masuda accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction. Chemical Lillie…

    AND THUS THE PERFECT POKEMON GAMES WERE BORN

    Using their entertaining gameplay, Platinum, BW, and HGSS have dedicated their lives to 10/10 scores and being amazing!

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    • I’d say that Black and White had the far better post games, and if everything else HGSS means that terrible level curve then hellllll no

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        • HGSS has a shitty Kanto tacked on and Platinum has one island

          Unova has half a region to explore and unlike other first versions had decent E4 rematches

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          • wtf? Kanto isn’t so shitty it makes it worse. YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE REGION TO EXPLORE COMPARED TO HALF AN EMPTY REGION

            like… what the heck are you talking about?

          • seriously. Kanto was another whole region to do another 8 gyms and everything. how can someone even call that a bad postgame?

          • Because it’s terribly underutilised. You could’ve slapped those eight gyms in Johto and it makes no difference

          • You’re exploring a full empty region with simplified areas, little to nothing to do but challenge gym leaders (seriously has no plot at all) compared to half a region with an actual objective (finding the sages), that actually has interesting varying routes, a decent level curve after the initial raise, and isn’t just a dumbed down version of a past region tacked on as fanbait

          • How is it fanbait when it was in the second fucking game ever?

            and its empty because its obviously past its prime. There are power outages, pokemon tower has been made into a radio tower, their champion disappeared, cinnabar is destroyed. It’s a shitty situation

            SUBTEXT

          • No, it’s empty because it’s a second region done by a company that clearly can’t utilise the idea right. Removal of areas, downsizing areas, keeping the shitty level curve from the first region in the game. It’s all baaaad. It’s not subtext at all, it’s just trying to rationalise GameFreak’s lukewarm attempt at a second region

            All imo

            Because the first game would’ve had fans lol

          • But you’re like objectively wrong about the fanbait.

            They wanted to fit it in because they expected it to be the last game. It provides closure to pokemon Red and Blue and it is a technical marvel they fit it in at all.

          • 8 extra gyms to battle, updated e4 after first run, and gathering all the leaders into the dojo for rematches =/= afterthought. also besides you have to understand that even getting a second region in johto at the time was a big accomplishment

          • The eight extra gyms were like the only thing in Kanto to do, other games have had E4 rematches without a tacked on second region, just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Kanto severely suffers from being so empty imo

          • but not all games had gym leader rematches. in hgss at least, you had to find all the gym leaders to send them to the dojo. also you got to catch the legendaries that were in kanto. mewtwo, zapdos, moltres, articuno. what else did there need to be?

          • I am baffled right now honestly. I dont even know what to say. Like.. no.

            Red from Gen 1 is there. They game literally ends with you fighting the protagonist from the last game. HOW IS THAT NOT AWESOME?

            You see all the gym leaders again, people talk about Red, Pallet Town is so melancholy. It has such a great tone.

            Just the fact a GBC game had two regions is incredible.

          • The Kanto and Johto gym leaders were never interesting characters to me

            Pallet Town doesn’t come as melancholic to me, it comes as a mum worried her dumb son hasn’t called

            One epic battle doesn’t justify how poorly Kanto was handled imo

            Sorry you can’t process opinion about it

          • Its because you’re expecting two games in one on the game boy color. Thats just being unreasonable. It was handled in the best possible way. It is your opinion but its a pretty shitty opinion because of super unrealistic expectations

          • so what counts as a postgame to you then? cuz a meaningless story like in ORAS with the deoxys thing was stupid, or the looker thing in xy was also meaningless and had nothing to do with the story of the game. postgame is postgame not “ok the main story is over but we want to extend the main story into the postgame therefore it not actually being postgame”

  95. Did anyone notice one of those guys on the cover has an exposed buttcrack?
    Corocoro isn’t very classy sometimes, is it?

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  96. I have a question for you all: If you were in the Pokemon World and you wanted to hang out with a Pokemon character at a local restaurant, who would it be? Kinda stems from how you can interact with SM characters at restaurants sometimes.

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  101. Nah you wanna talk about kanto being handled badly… what the hell was up with Red and Blue in Sun and Moon?

    You only get to battle one of them (and honestly idk why you would ever pick blue over red) then you have to go through the battle tree to battle them again.

    At least they have awesome redesigns….

    BUT WHERE IS LEAF?

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  103. Shit man, if we get lycanroc sunset form, would that mean we would get early morning encounters again and maybe the late afternoon(Sunset) encounters

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  104. What if in USUM Aether got some Necrozma DNA and made a Necrozma-enchanced Lycanroc fusion instead of Silvally? Or something like that, cause that doesn’t make sense

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  105. So Joe seems to think that the Pokenchi news won’t just be June’s trailer. Apparently they used the phrase “world premiere” so who knows. Maybe the Sunday morning program is going back to it’s roots of actually showing new stuff hahaha

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  108. Im saying this now, but If I see the Battle tree is the same, but just decided to add more characters Im going to be HIGHLY annoyed

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  109. So assuming that we do get Johto Alola forms in USUM, who do you want to get an Alola form. (Excluding Johto starters because it is already a given that they need some love and may or may not get them in these games).

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  111. Lycanroc Sunrise/Twilight form
    Type: Rock/Fighting or Rock/Dark
    HP: 85
    Atk: 125
    Def: 75
    Sp.A: 30
    Sp.D: 75
    Spd: 112

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  115. Shit man… any generation counts now, Even GEN 7 BECAUSE WYNAUT WHAT ALOLAN FORMS DO YOU WANT AND WHAT TYPE COMBO

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  117. I’m totally behind you guys but I’ve just almost finished AS. Amazing game. Where’s that dude that said ORAS aren’t good???
    I’ll give him a piece of my rage!!

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      • The more you play it the more you realize that every pokemon game is unutilized potential and gamefreak makes questionable game decisions

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      • I disagree. Pre game the no BF made me anxious but after playing through I think there’s no comparison. ORAS are well polished games.

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          • That made me mad as you can see in my DP, I’m still mad 😛
            I’ve played Emerald like a million times and have 2 say ORAS improved on almost everything. They were really enjoyable.

          • My issues with oras are mainly

            – Really really bad remixes of hoenn music. It may just be the soundfont but they lost all charm the original GBA games had. Gen 6 had this problem as a whole and is certainly something they fixed in Sun and Moon. The original compositions like for Zinnia and Wally are fantastic though if a bit repetitive.
            – No battle frontier.
            – Delta Episode was little more than a fetch quest with nothing to fetch. The only good part was at the end where stuff actually happened
            -They ruined the Sky Pillar
            -NPC redesigns felt bland
            -Really easy
            – Legendaries are just given out

          • Why I think they’re better.
            – Graphics. Hoenn was just stunning.
            – Better story we had more of May/Steven/Wally even Aqua/Magma but what I liked most was the Primal/mega lore.
            – Delta Episode was a great expansion. Story doesn’t end after Sootoplis.
            – Soaring was fun.
            – Dexnav was game breakingly good.
            – Subtle changes in everything story, overworld etc

            I thought music was good, soaring and Wally’s theme for example.
            Only thing Emerald had going was BF, GL rematches and more challenging main game.
            But yh no BF was really frustrating but I’ve gotten over that somehow. I wish they were more challenging too

          • https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/6/6e/Hoenn_Route_103_RS.png/300px-Hoenn_Route_103_RS.png

            https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/7/74/Hoenn_Route_103_ORAS.png/300px-Hoenn_Route_103_ORAS.png

            -idk I think RSE was way more vibrant
            – yeah… yeah for sure
            – It was pretty bad IMO. You just go place to place to place. Nothing really happens
            – Fair enough
            – YEAH WHY DIDNT THEY BRING IT BACK?
            – I guess
            – Again those two were original compositions. The only exceptions I can think of are like… Team Magma/Aqua leader themes and… Vs Deoxsys?

            Verdanturf is so bland now which is sad because it was so beautiful.

          • – I think the big thing with RSE was it was a HUGE jump in graphics from GSC. I still remember when I first played Emerald the graphics blew me away.
            ORAS are a good step up from XY but not as big as RSE were.

            – Perhaps but it’s still has some interesting points and better than no post game story at all.

            – Hmm I agree with Vendaturf and some others but some of the themes like leader themes, evil team encounters, littleroot and some route themes I liked alot. Oh and Foretree.

            In the end what I liked about ORAS was the experience. But I’ll never forget the originals!

  118. I for one am very excited at any new form we might get. I just hope it’s good. I will probably use it in USUM if I like it enough, probably have to shiny breed again ;P

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    • It’s just one of many alternate pokemon time lines. Maybe it’s the “until XY not counting remakes”universe where mega evolution doesn’t exist

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        • That’s not been confirmed as canon though? That was given as a timeline, but never stated as canon. And when you establish a multiverse, there can’t be a canon. There can be the continuation of a specific time line, but everything is equally canon. Heck, in your supposed canon there’s already multiple alternate timelines (Fire Red is a parallel timeline of Leaf Green, HG to SS, B2 to W2)

          Also BW2 happens the same time as Kalos

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          • idk… I think it depends how you think of what is canon.

            But B2W2 does not happen at the same time as Kalos because Colress is mentioned to being in Kalos but that cant be possible if he is in Unova

          • In a multiverse, to refer to something as canon would mean it partains to one timeline (for example, ‘this game is canon to this timeline’). However, everything is canon to its own timeline, and we’ve never been given any specific timelines (such as Fire Red to Soul Silver to X to Moon or anything) and if consider the idea that GameFreak wants every playthrough to be seen as its own timeline then it just makes canon arbitrary unless we’re comparing the game multiverse to another multiverse (such as anime or manga)

            Also:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cb03c5f7eba23df7deb101027cfcc46c0dcafaeb810f2882b7ecc2e745fac3d2.png

          • I hate talking about Pokemon time lines tbh… I wish GF didn’t complicate it with the megas >.>

            And huh… That’s really weird… I really thought B2W2 was before X and Y

          • I like it, they’ve been alluding to it since Black and White and it’s a really cute nod to different versions + allows them to explain away everything they add

  123. I still want to hear about a limited edition 2DS XL for USUM. That would probably be enough to make me get one. It would actually make sense, since blue and orange were already the default colors. Just put blue on the bottom shell and orange on the top with a cool design and BAM, instant money.

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    • Can’t wait for either
      A Pokemon switch edition with Custom Dock, Image printed behind the system and Colors representing the legend joycons with logos on the bottom or just the joy cons

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  124. Anyone still playing Sage? I’m giving up looking for the Bear and Blue Racoon in the Forest I think, not even sure they are in it. Anyone know if there’s a Fire or Leaf Stone in this Demo?

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  125. Wait, maybe Rockruffs evolution will be determined by actual time of day instead of which game you have, sorry if old news

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  127. Do you think for USUM the music will be changed or you think they will use the sun and moon music

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    • Its the excitement. RSE uses much more excite and trumpets. The gba sound makes it even more exciting. And a lot of time RSE has these little background sounds ORAS doesnt have (or uses very quietly)

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  140. An hour and a half…. How you all killing time?

    I prefer to use explosives myself… Maybe a… Time bomb?

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  145. Predictions:

    -Short trailer
    -Mascot reveals (Psychic/Fire and Psychic/Ice or Psychic/Fairy)
    -No Lycanroc because that’s for the anime and CoroCoro to reveal

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  147. So I turned my brightness WAY down and turned off auto brightness and after an hour of playing splatoon in the handheld I’m at 15%. What the fuck.

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  148. Predictions:
    Lycanroc reveal (because i think they wont use the Anime to reveal something like that)
    Mascots info
    Short trailer

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    • Why not? They used it to reveal Megazard X and even then it’s on CoroCoro’s cover so it should be CoroCoro revealing that it not the anime

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        • I guess but I still think it’d be weird for CoroCoro just to recap if we’re getting into the actual news cycle

          I guess Pokenchi might just show a clip and CoroCoro goes into detail?

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          • Wouldn’t be the first time Corocoro simply recapped information. I’m not going to claim anything, but just saying that it wont be surprising if Lyca is revealed in Pokenchi

          • I know but I just feel it’s weird if they just recap when it finally looks like we’re getting news and stuff? Anyways I guess we should just be grateful we’re getting one thing now XD

          • Actually now that I think about Coro Coro is officially released in the 11th or 12th in Japan. The Pokémon episode this week is on the 10th even in Japan. Thus if it is not shown on Pokenchi today and there are no other news announcements until the Pokémon episode. Than the anime will technically and legally be the first thing to reveal Lycanroc’s new form.

          • Corocoro officially ”leaks” on the 10th in Europe/NA but it’ll be the 11th in Japan due to time zone

  149. Besides the confirmed Mascot legends + Lycanroc, and speculated Mimikyu and Tapu, what new non-Alolan forms do you guys expect or want to see?

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          • I think GEN 5 were the best games in the series esp. Story/Plot wise.
            The sequel idea was just great and well executed.

        • However.. i disagree!

          It totally lacked and sort of nuance the first games had. BW had a brilliant plot that even tied into the titles. It was about not everything is so Black and White. Dreams and ideals are different for everyone. There is no one right way, there are multiple perspectives.

          This is shown through the dynamic between N and the player.

          The player is put into a roll of a trainer who brings out the strength in pokemon and betters not only themself but also their pokemon. N only sees Pokemon being trapped and wants to free them.

          Why Team Plasma works is because they take a side then radicalize it. They steal pokemon, they make speeches without any actual debates, and they have motives that are unclear.

          But B2W2 turns Team Plasma into fully evil with no reason to be evil other than they are evil. Ghetsis just wants world domination and the player doesn’t take any roll. I feel like they were aware of this because Marlon questions if team Plasma is truely evil which doesnt work in the game where they just did a terrorist attack on a highly populated city.

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          • Like literally every other game in the series, making it worse than BW but not bad overall.

            – Wraps up lose ends

            – Your rival has a relatable goal even if he’s a bit of a doof

            – Mostly well paced until the end

            – Sensible evil team, they want to use power for dominance rather than to… Destroy the world they live on? Commit misguided genocide?

          • -Wrapping up loose ewnds IS really nice. B2W2 arent bad games obviously, but its a huge disappointment after bW
            – Hugh sucks. I’ve talked about this before but it makes no sense for it to be his sisters purrloin he is after. He is also an edgelord but not the entertaining kind. He has basically no character development and bianca and Cheron are so much better
            – The end gets REALLY bad with pacing
            – I guess but it felt like they were trying to do Rocket again

          • The little sister is really young? Like I know our protags tend to be early tens but why would he let a little girl without any other Pokemon go out herself to get it?

          • You are missing my point. Why would they write it so that he has a sister who had a purrloin that got stolen then have him rescue it.

            -Purrloin is a super common pokemon anyways so it has little value, therefor no stakes if you want to be cynical about it
            – Why not make his sister older and be the rival
            – Why not remove the sister entirely and just make it Hugh’s pokemon?
            – This sister is seen like… once and doesnt even have a name or a unique sprite so why care about her

          • Dude the first thing you get told about that Purrloin is that it’s from their late grandfather, meaning it has sentimental attachment. Especially for a little girl.

            Also for someone who loves BW you don’t seem to get Team Plasma’s point? Even common Pokémon aren’t disposable items lol, at least in universe. You ever had a cat or dog? They’re about as replaceable as a common Pokemon is in universe. That’s seemingly the common view in universe seeing as they actually bother to bury their Pokémon.

            Because it speaks more for one’s character if you’re willing to act for others, especially those who cannot help themselves. If Hugh just reduced his own Purrloin or had his sister be the older one for some uneccessary reason, it wouldn’t have as much impact on his character. He’s a caring person. Characterisation can exist outside of BW and Lillie you know?

          • But we never SEE that grandfather. Or the moment that she got the pokemon. So we have no connection to it as a player. A purrloin is just a purrloin to us, players who see them every single time we walk in the grass. It doesn’t click. We are told all of these connections but never see them so the character is never built up enough.

            Hugh is never shown to be compassionate though. He helps people but he always does it angry and full of rage. He seems more like an ass with anger issues than a caring person. A character that is constantly angry is unlikable.

          • Hmm no.
            I think Hugh helping his sister gives some development to his character. That he cares for his little sister. You know the big brother to the rescue. Without it he’d be like another Blue/Barry

          • If you can’t connect with people just because they were never part of your life, I’m sorry for you. But it’s not meant to be the player’s driving force at all. It’s Hugh’s. Look at his perspective rather than yours.

            By that logic, we shouldn’t feel bad for N or Lillie because we never see their sad upbringings, we just see the aftermath and interaction afterwards. The exact same as the Purrloin plot.

            That’s called being passionate. He feels emotion strongly, as shown by his love and anger.

          • The thing is though, when someone tells you that something sad happened to their family member, you feel bad for them and you sympathize. But in a game or a movie, you have to have a reason to sympathize. Its what makes characters into people. Because you can’t relate to fictional characters. You can relate to fictional people.

            When we hear that Hugh (who we dont even know anything about at this point because the game just started and he isnt in BW so we have no idea what kind of person this is) has a sister who had her purrloin taken, we don’t feel that sympathy because in this world, everyone gets their fucking pokemon stolen. You cant even go to school without someone taking your pokemon. So why should we as an audience care,

            The game fails at making us care about these people because their perspective is never properly shown. We never meet this sister and have an actual moment where we understand what it means to her. We are told that by Hugh.

            And hugh is literally ALWAYS ANGRY. He never has any moments where he is a friend to you or he talks to someone like a regular human being. He is always pissed about something. he sees you and anyone else around like allies to help him get his fucking pokemon back and not like people. It makes you ask why are you friends with this kid

        • Agreed, it wasn’t that bad imo. The cool region and new order of it made of what it lacked anyway. Plus the new features and stuff like low level volcarona, mandibuzz, and braviary was great

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          • My first even ahead of hoenn in terms of story is BW/BW2. I don’t class them as separate they’re like one big game.

            You can’t hate on Unova. The characters and depth was out of this world.
            Hmm should play them again soon I think! =)

          • I think Hoenn has one of the stories tbh :v

            At least we can both agree Unova had amazing plot XD

          • What was better than Unova?
            I guess Sinnoh was good.
            Not played SM yet so can’t comment on them.
            But yh gen 5 was just amazing:)

        • Agreed. And you know what it didn’t have to be better coz BW set the foundations and BW2 just picked off from where BW ended. Great games

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          • Black and White literally came down to evil VS good too

            There were legit evil grunts

            The whole plot was orchestrated by Ghetsis who is evil

            The final battle is literally good VS evil instead of VS a champion

          • Sure but that was because it was a radicalization of the idea that Pokemon shouldn’t be captured and used which is what N felt. Ghetsis took advantage of N but it was still N’s story.

            The grunts ween’t all evil either. In B2W2 there are still Team Plasma members that wear the old uniform because they still believe that Pokemon shouldn’t be captured. You never battle them.

          • And that’s what makes it interesting. Old Plasma and then you have new plasma. The division and separation was interesting as ever.
            Then the shadow triad and Colress just added to the suspense!
            Also return of old characters like Cheren, Alder and Bianca.
            Iris being champion. All the changes made an interesting revisit of Unova

          • BW2 also posed the idea of people having to stay with evil teams because they have nowhere else to go and the idea of repenting (N, Plasma Grunts, etc)

          • There’s people that kicked Munna and others with pretty fishy dialogue

            There was evil plasma grunts

          • … I know there were evil ones. But you’ll notice that those Munna grunts were following Ghetsis and were frightened by Ghetsis. Not N.

            There were Plasma grunts that followed N and wanted pokemon to be happy truly, but there were many others that followed ghetsis and used it as a shield for evil actions

          • The game still comes down to good VS evil in the end tho? And the second game does tackle issues such as repentance and reliability in regards to evil teams

          • Plus there’s so much depth to the story regardless if its an evil vs good. Isn’t it always good vs evil?

          • Yeah but thats not what its about. It only ends with fighting Ghetisis because he was using N. The whole game you talk to N about what he thinks and fights for. NPCs all talk about different perspectives. The brothers in the story who had Reshiram and Zekrom fought over their ideals, The game is called Black and White.

            Its not about Good vs Evil

          • Ghetsis is evil. You are good. The game is far deeper before that, but the game does just come down to good VS evil. N would not be involved at all if it wasn’t for Ghetsis’ evil.

            You can say it’s deep and all that because it is but it does just boil down to good VS evil in the end.

          • Yeah basically BW2 were still very good games story wise. I think them being sequels set 2 years later in enough.

          • … no. just.. no.

            Star Wars comes down to Luke vs the Emperor but he isn’t the villain. Not really. It’s vader. Vader is the one who is always there. Same with N and Ghetsis.

            Saying the plot is good vs evil because it ends with fighting an evil character is overly simplistic and robs the story of its depth. You are ignoring 99% of the story because of the ending. Thats ridiculous.

            B2W2’s plot is centered around good vs evil unlike BW which is centered around the multiple perspectives clashing. A purrloin is stolen, a city is attacked, a pokemon is used for power. None of this is in BW in the same way

            Wanna know why N wanted the legendary? Not for some ultimate power of evil, its because he wanted to shape Unova to his ideals.

          • I have to agree with what ur saying but I do disagree that BW2 weren’t good plot wise they were good just BW were better in terms of being more versatile and different

          • See the thing? Star Wars is still good VS evil, jedi VS sith. Luke VS Vader is a morally grey area in a tale of good VS evil, just as BW is. BW is a story of good VS evil in the end, because Ghetsis is the source of conflict, not N. N is barely autonomous, he spends the whole game as Ghetsis’ bitch and doesn’t really even has his own ideas or truths – everything given to him was from Ghetsis. N used the Dragon because Ghetsis wanted it for his evil plans.

          • Oh so because Ghetsis was feeding N these beliefs i guess all of that other stuff is just meaningless. Nevermind the fact that Zekrom and Reshiram’s backstories are entirely cewntered around opposing ideologies yet neither of them is the evil one. Forget the fact that in the second town of the game you see people reconsidering their beliefs. Forget all that.

            There is a villain so its good vs evil with no other depth and so BW is the same as b2W2

          • Sit down kid.

            I said it is deep. I said it’s better than BW2. But in the end, BW still comes down to good VS evil. Did I say it was just barebones good and evil? No. Did I say it had no depth? No.

          • But its not a story about that! Having an evil villain that you fight doesn’t make the story about good vs evil. It’s not the destination, its the journey and the journey is filled with people’s perspectives. Not the villain you fight at the end.

          • Maybe so but I don’t think they were bland. They still had depth, unpredictability to some extent and just because of the fact they were sequels that made them great. Never mind anything else. That alone is like 500 plus points (Or BW2 medals lol)

          • Yeah the plot couldn’t be as good as its predecessor but does it really matter, the plot is still good in Pokemon standards and the great gameplay makes you forget the plot anyways. It didn’t surpass BW and character plot wise, but it surpassed BW in everything else.

  153. Good evening, i am still rocking Miitopia, and my first person almost reached level 50, the first hero i had to date. but here’s a strange fact, levels for relationships extend well beyond 50… i think my highest is at 76 (soulmates)

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  156. So the new Lycanroc form seems to be on all fours. I imagine that’s the Pokemon we all thought was Midday in the June trailer. they seem to be similar in looks so it’s not like we could have known any better

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  157. I have super high hopes for USUM.
    Like story wise, post game and plenty of new forms. I feel GF will be going all out to keep us busy till gen 8 which may take it’s time to come out on the switch

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    • I just hope it has a different enough story that it’s worth buying. I really don’t feel like buying and playing through SM again in less than a year. I love Alola and I loved SM, but I want a relatively new story with the characters we’ve come to love lol

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      • Ahhh don’t worry they’ll be much different. If they aren’t then..
        Me and you will jump on a mega mence and rain destruction with hyper beams and draco meteors!

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    • Will it even be a real stream tho ?

      Also someone already posted where to watch it + Pj’s maybe streaming think?

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  161. After ORAS I actually have high hopes for the eventual Sinnoh remakes.
    Can you imagine an “Arceus episode”?
    That would be amaaazing!

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