Hello everybody, we’re bringing you another Mascot Pokémon Showdown. The winner of last time is Giratina with 56%!
Now it’s time for Unova. Generation V released in 2010 in Japan and in 2011 in the rest of the world. This time, the generation consisted of four games: Black, White, Black 2 and White 2, and introduced amazing features, such as seasons, triple and rotation battles and the Pokémon World Tournament
Pokémon Black Version
Pokémon Black featured Reshiram, the Vast White Pokémon. It is a Dragon/Fire Pokémon that contains almost entirely out of fluff. By flaring the enormous engine-like tail, it can move the atmosphere of the world, which changes the weather.
Reshiram is the only Pokëmon known to be able to learn Fusion Flare and Blue Flare. Together with Zekrom, they were first shown on the Japanese and English website on the same date, which makes them the first two to be revealed worldwide simultaneously. Its name comes from ‘shiro‘ (白, ‘white’) and ‘re‘, which is just a softer sound than ‘ze‘.
Pokémon White Version
Pokémon White showcased Zekrom, the Deep Black Pokémon, 
on its cover. He has a Dragon/Electric-typing with small black wings coming from its shoulders. Like Reshiram, Zekrom has an engine-like tail, but this one produces lightning bolts.
Zekrom has the highest Attack, Defense, and base stat total of all Electric Pokémon. It’s Ken Sugimori’s favorite Pokémon of Generation V. Its name is a combination of ‘kuro‘ (黒, ‘black’) and ‘ze‘, which is just a harder sound than ‘re‘.
Pokémon Black 2 Version
On the case of Pokémon Black 2 is Black Kyurem, a combination of Kyurem and Zekrom. It keeps Zekrom‘s arms, but is much more muscular than it. Its left arm, wing and lower jaw are completely covered in ice.
Black Kyurem has the highest Attack stat of all Ice Pokémon, and together with White Kyurem, it has the highest base stat total of all Ice-type Pokémon. Despite being larger than before it fused, it’s actually lighter than Kyurem. Its name comes from ‘rei‘ (冷, ‘cold’), ‘kyuurei‘ (急冷, ‘rapid cooling’) and ‘rei‘ (零, ‘zero’).
Pokémon White 2 Version
Unlike all other generations, this generation had 2 upgraded 
versions instead of one. On the second version, Pokémon White 2, you can see White Kyurem on the cover. This is a fusion of Kyurem and Reshiram. Its right wing, head plume and upper jaw are frozen.
White Kyurem has the highest Special attack stat of all Ice-type Pokémon, and, as mentioned before, the highest base stat total of all of them. It’s also the tallest Pokémon introduced in Generation V.
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Seriously! This demented jaPANESE didn’t trade his Porygon with a Up-Grade? I hope he gets flooded by a Waterium Z.
Black and White completely called Sun and Moon. You will notice that in the Nacrene City Museum, there is a tiki mask that was said to belong to a native tribe, coincidentally, Unova is also based on a place in the US like Alola. Or maybe it is pure coincidence…
Now to scour alola for hints at the next region
Thank god that i already have a PorygonZ, or else I would’ve made a seance to put a permanent curse on that rotten trader.
Doesn’t it show in the GTS if they’re holding items though?
I deposited it not looked for one. Ugh I am so frustrated! I hope that Porygon is banned.
I was going to ask someone for one but it’s pointless, I already have a lvl 100 PorygonZ
OMG I got a stupid lvl 1 Porygon. That’s it, I wish this weird L shaped symbol, a bent L symbol, and a bent T person 1000 Pokebans.
As Barry would say “I’m fining you your entire family, your soul and citizenship unless you give back my Porygon!”
Ohh that sucks
Maybe the evolution didn’t kick in immediately?
This is the problem. Imagine breeding a six IV porygon and then not have anyone who will trade it with you and trade it back.
I’m relieved at least I have a lvl 100 POrygonZ from X/Y waiting. I think I also have a Porygon2.
Wait you tried to do a trade evo through the GTS? That sounds like a terrible idea.
It would take me a REALLY long time but I could get you another one with Six IVs
At this point I might find a shiny Hakamo-o before I find a razor claw. -_-
Are you using the SOS method, and if so, what’s the success rate with it?
I am. So far, I’ve had a ton of success, but with varying lengths. I wasted two hours on a chain I eventually broke, but then found a shiny in ten minutes with another one.
But it’s a TON better than MM.
Gotcha. Will have to give it a try.
I think SOS call should be a move that has PP, can be up to 5.
I honestly don’t like SOS battles
They’re just so time consuming
At least with hordes you’re garuenteed 5,Pokemon per encounter
Sos battles you always gotta wait to see if the beastie calls for backup
I detest their Shiny color
It’s like banana strawberry barf
Oh yeah, it’s disgusting. But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t catch it lol.
When will we be able to transfer Pokémon from Oras to sun and moon
January
I never talked to these guys so I never sawould this before, just saw ono instagram haha https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dbe79f30406e2c2179e871193b124e7bd034f1c9c8d6a1c6acfbc445afe0e54f.png
Probably genned.
Obviously
Still legal if those stats and attacks are legal!
It’s technically legal, but still very much cheating, no matter how you put it.
Agree to disagree
Glad we ended it there, I’ve gotten into some pretty heated arguments about this. xD
We should be allowed to steal his DS.
Yea…. Stealing is so cool! Retribution!
I see breeding for my competitive Pokémon as buying packs for good TCG cards. No thanks. I’ll just go buy exactly what I need. And then I can focus on trying to be good at the game. Not wasting 10s of hours of my life simply getting a team ready that will very likely change anyway.
I thought we had ended it. ._.
Yep, and even more so if you lie
Like some punk somehow manages a 6iv shiny Manaphy with the right HP
I must ask… is duplicating cheating? Someone gave me a duplicated six IV ditto that was duplicated off a legit ditto
IMO it falls into somewhat of a grey category. It’s not as bad as outright genning, but definitely not legit.
Yeah… here’s the thing
I got a legit duplicated six IV ditto
But everything else I have is legitimately bred off of it (which lemme tell you is a painful process… especially the goddamn Mimikyus)
I don’t really think of it as cheating TBH, at least there was effort put into it.
Yeah … especially the mimikyus… one can only see 4 out of the 5 IVs needed be perfect but miss that last one so many times before it begins to kill them
xD
Side note: PC IV checker is the best thing ever. Period.
Pretty much XD
It’s also depressing
How so? (Is it the mimikyus?)
Yep… I spent five hours trying to breed the damn things
Five hours? Try 3/4 of a year (but that was for a shiny, so it’s not really related I guess…)
Here’s my thoughts on it:
Competitive Pokémon is not the same thing as normal Pokémon. It’s about strategy, from team building to the way you play the team. It’s about out thinking your opponent. It’s about figuring out how to win in the most efficient way possible. Like why compeitive game or sport. It has nothing to do with breeding or the campaign or filling a dex. If playing VGC with hacked Pokémon with perfectly legal stats and movepools is cheating then playing on Smogon is cheating. Those aren’t “real” Pokémon. Which is what the purists who argument boils down to. They fail to separate the game of leisure from the game of sport.
Seriously? What a piece of nut
Tapu Koko is the ultimate dex hunting pokemon. I decided to mess around with it for a while, and gave it False Swipe, Thunder Wave, Thunderbolt, and Theif, and I’ve caught so many things with it. I recommend this if you’re going for dex completion.
Where do you get the False Swipe TM? And also if you get rid of Nature Madness it can’t do the Tapu Move.
You don’t need it
Top s I didn’t mean that my subconscious saw it first I meant the Thunderwave, Thief and Thunderbolt ones. I have a Sneazel with Theif I think.
You get False Swipe automatically after beating Hala
Well I’ll recommend Parasect too, which have False Swipe and Spore.
For ghost hunting there’s Scrappy (HA) Pangoro; or Decidueye because it has Foresight and False Swipe.
Omg yes! I found a wild Marill! Female too!
This is in Sun and Moon btw
I doubt that anyone here is playing any other pokemon game right now TBH. xD
Lol XD Just wanted people to know exact!
https://youtu.be/Lrr_VVtyUA8
How should you know? Perhaps someone cares.
I mean it’s just a Marill
It’s not like a hyper rare Dhelmise or Turtonator
But (atm) it’s rare in Alola. Plus it evolves into (one of) my fav Pokemon so it’s great
I’d sooner gut it and turn its fat into soap
Disgusting
That’s why we need soap
You’re gutting the monkey??
But I do have a Dhelmise I caught myself.
Like my six competitively bred ones with near all perfect IVs? :3
So what about the one I was gonna give you….kinda feels irrelevant now
HA Vulpix
Bruxish
Mimikyu
Passimian
And Dhelmise
Eh, at this point I only want the Vulpix and Passimian
If you have extra Apricorn balls I’ll happily take those
I really don’t, I stupidly wasted my Heavy and Level ball on a Hakamo-o
But I thought we had a deal
All those things for the synchro Abra natures
Two more fudging hours left
It’s one thing for me to work Holiday weekends but when seriously annoying head cold causes every waking moment to be a congested nightmare
But when I get home, I seriously want to see if we can start those Weekend Battle Royales, this week theme should be Main Game teams,
This week I’m going to try to set up BATTLE FRIDAYS!!!!!
Battle fridays?
Friday for battles
Come on Men, we shall battle, FOR FRIDAYS!!!!
Damnit I mistyped XD
That sounds cool, but we need to do it at a suitable time for everyone and can it be tournament style.
Eh, my idea of it was more like everyone just asks for battles and such, but if you want to host a tournament go right ahead! I’d be down for that, but the thing about my idea is that no one is tied down, they can come and go and do battles whenever.
That sounds cool, you could start a thread for it.
I’ll do it closer to then. 😛
Hmmmm! Awesome!
(Though I’d feel bad, I actually got competitive mons)
Haha well somebody suggested a while back that you could mention whether the battle was friendly or competitive, or something like that.
Hmmm XD I’ll see I suppose
Good luck! Tell me when it’s put into motion!
Sure thing!
Fine but maybe we can incorporate theme?
Like monotype
Little cup
Legendary rumble
I’m sort of afraid that a theme for the whole event would lessen turnout. However, if people want to do those things, then of course they can, but people shouldn’t be tied down with having to do those if they want to participate.
I think people are sort of missing the point, it isn’t an organized event at all, it’s more of a time for people to get together and just have fun battling however they choose.
Are you able to find hidden ability Pokémon in the wild?
Only through SOS battles I think
Get the eevee you got from your egg and evolve it to sylveon before level 25 so it can learn skill swap and check the SOS Pokemon for abilities only downfall is you only have 10 pp but you can collect some elixirs
SRd for half an hour to get a Timid Porygon from the Aether guy. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have Trace so I’ll have to get a good Ditto to breed it. Getting ready for my pre-bank gym leader team!
I’m so glad that my shiny zubat is jolly, because all that matters with hyper training is nature (ok maybe egg moves too) so I’ll be able to have a perfectly viable crobat.
My Tapu Koko just got +10 in defense when it leveled up!! I’ve never seen anything higher than 5! O_O
I saw my Kadabra get 11 in speed
Wow! That’s insane
Yep XD
In Emerald I got like a +60 in SpA when I was EV training Kyogre
W O A H
Great. That’s 30 Hakamo-o, I’ve run out of PP, and still no razor claw.
Took me over an hour to find a Rockruff.
I’m over an hour in lol.
What does Razor Claw do?
Ups the critical hit ratio when held.
BUT, it also evolves sneasel, which is my goal.
There’s really no other way to get one? Seems really convoluted.
Yeah, there’s no other way. Luckily I got Weavile off of the GTS just now, that would’ve been a nightmare.
I swear the encounter rates are strange in this game.
Like almost every new Pokémon has 5-20% chance of showing up….like what?
5% chance for a jangmo-o.
5% chance that it’s holding a razor claw.
100% chance that I’ve already lost my sanity.
Don’t worry
I lost my sanity long ago
You’ll adjust
Yeah, 1/400 chance of Jangmo’o encounter with razor claw really does something to you.
Group questions: Which mascot legend for Gen 7 (Solgaleo or Lunala) is the most unique, which is strongest, would you use the mascot in your team or ditch it, and which one would you choose between them? For me its
1. Lunala
2. Lunala
3. In Team
4. Lunala
Same
Lunala
Neither, they’re both horrible
In team, purely because of the story of nebby. I would never use it on any other occasion.
Solgaleo
Those shinies tho.
Lunala’s terrible?!
Their stat spreads aren’t very good.
Lunala has a better movepool. Ghost is really strong in Ubers. Calm Mind helps it boost its higher stat, unlike Solgaleo. And finally it’s speed is decent for Ubers.
Lunala is pretty unique. Strongest seems sorta subjective. I don’t use Legendaries on playthroughs. Solgaleo is cool af.
Ah
Ehhhh I like Solgaleo because of its powerful majesticiness
But unfortunately Lunfartala has the type advantage and the more effective ability
Lunala
Both in their own way
Never use legendaries during the story
Solgaleo
Honestly I think Lunala fits the story more than Solgaleo. Lillie fits better with Lunala and it complements her history with Cosmog more so than Solgaleo.
I feel that Metagross can do Solgaleos job easily, but you don’t get sunsteel strike. Lunaala overall has the advantage therefore.
Lunala is great except for the fact it being a Ghost type prevents it from attacking a bunch of Pokemon even if the MOVE is super effective.
Is it just me or does Wine Red hair look way more like purple
I think it looks like a burgundy tbh.
All this Fusion talk is getting me thinking
What if one unholy day Gamefreak turns Pokemon fusion into canon?
My only idea that could make fusion possible is that
They must share a type and egg group
their base stats are cut down the middle and added up
Maximum of Three types
And they are without an Ability
Example, my go to fusion is Rhyperior and Excadrill, some kind armor clad Rhyperior with long Excadrill claws and horns (but the biggest part is on his hand is a fully formed Excadrill drill and it can rotate them)
But it is a Ground/Rock/Steel type
HP 57+55 112
Attack 70+67 137
Def 65+30 95
Sp atk 25+27 52
Sp def 32+27 59
Speed 20+44 64
Ok that’s kinda shit so let’s hope it’s never a thing…
That’s probably the shittest triple type combo in existence.
Even worse then Bug/Grass/Ice
Holy moly Morimoto was a bit tough with my lvl 70 and 80 Pokemon but luckily I beat him and got the Ovaaaaaal Charm!
Now to get the shiny charm.
How do you get the Shiny Charm?
complete the Alola dex up to 300.
I’m 35% in. Some of them are super difficult to get.
GTS is a life saver if you have honedge’s to trade.
Castforms are basically a currency for me.
Can’t you die from having a honedge?
The Ultra Beast missions are fun 🙂
I think I have my trainer all ready as far as clothes go
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/012c938f32595acf61c81264eec89152ede6c99e1dca521147af73ed52b57876.jpg
I can’t really settle on an outfit, I’m not a huge fan of any single combination I make, so I’m switching around every few days or so.
Really dissapointed in the male options. 🙁
Should have created a girl, seems like it has the far better options.
That’s true, there are more options for the female trainer, but I’m going to put hundreds of hours into this file, so I’d rather have it be more like me.
I really like the orange clothing combo.
Looks really nice! It’s hard for me to decide on what to stick on, the hairstyles and clothing options are excellent.
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Dat pleted skirt doe. haha Nice!
Lol I’m so mainstream I always seem to pick the winning option on these- I guess there’s a certain consensus as to who’s the coolest each time haha
Man Lillie is so great! I’m 100% in her corner all the time! lol About to go to Exeggutor Island in our little adventure. Should be loads of fun! I’m so happy Lillie has a full character arc where she grows as a person lol
I hate how people are picking on innocent Alolan Persian, it was clearly meant as a literal joke. I shall defend it with my life! I’ll stop any bullets of hatred! I’ll burn the weeds of disgust! I’ll silence the speech of hatred!
That head though. Even as a joke it’s not funny. It probably has some serious health problems, like a tumour or something. Poor Alolan Persian
Some cats are naturally fat, like Garfield.
It’s not fat though. It’s head abnormally large in proportion to it’s body. That’s a serious health problem if I ever saw one.
I’m pretty sure a frog with a flower is worse.
Or a rock with a beard
What rock? Please tell me it’s a Gen 1 Pokemon.
I don’t think anyone big enough to shield its whole head from bullets.
Don’t worry, I’ll just use Electrode.
Nature for UB-03?
Ping Pong Potassium
Modest.
Modest of Timid depending on what your looking for. Really your going to scarf it no matter what, so it’s your call.
When I saw this Primape, it reminded me of that depressing poked entry where it’ll be angry to death.