RUMOR: Pokémon Sun & Moon’s HUGE SECRET Revealed?

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Spoiler & rumor alert: The contents of this article are speculative in nature (based on evidence from demo contents & official documents) and may also spoil surprises in the game. You have been warned.

ash-sun-moonDots are being connected in what could be the biggest Pokémon crossover between the anime and games that the franchise has ever seen. Pokémon Sun & Moon could be the first titles in which Ash, the star of the Pokémon anime, makes an appearance.

Although his in-game counterpart, Red, has a storied history since debuting as the protagonist of the first Pokémon games, Ash has never actually appeared in any games of the main series. Ash-Greninja being available hinted at his existence in the game canon and the demo also made passing reference to him, but it was not widely speculated that he would actually be an opponent in the games, until now.

satoshi-trademarkRecently a trademark filing by Nintendo & Game Freak for ‘Satoshi’ (Ash’s Japanese name) was discovered. This is interesting because it is obviously game-related, not simply a filing for the anime. Although Ash-Greninja will be available to players in Pokémon Sun & Moon after transferring it from the demo, there wouldn’t be much more reason that they’d need to trademark Ash’s name: after all, the anime season featuring his Greninja just wrapped up. The filing also makes no mention of a Pokémon in correlation to him either.

ashs-pikachuIn addition, his Pikachu has already been confirmed by game data mined in the demo! Whether this is an event for players (probably) in addition to a Pokémon he may use on his team is still unclear. It does however point to one thing: Ash is definitely tied into Sun & Moon heavily.

This all comes together with the recent unveiling of the Battle Tree, a location in Alola that allows players to battle with and against some of the most famous trainers in Pokémon history! Sounds like a great place for Ash to make his game debut…

I’ll finish up by reminding everyone with exactly the same warning I gave going in: this is not confirmed. It is, however, definitely something that is being strongly hinted at!

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  2. Alright so I took a crack at renaming all the Alolan forms because why not? And because I feel like they should have been renamed rather than being called things like Alolan Sandslash and whatnot. So, here goes:

    -Priowth (Primadonna and Meowth)
    -Furrsian
    -Snowshrew
    -Snowslash
    -Vulpice
    -Brinetails
    -Eggsneckutor (credit for this one goes to another poster who thought it up, absolutely brilliant)
    -Marowax (fire/ ghost typing, wax ha sido to do with fire and with ghosts sometimes, and then there’s waxing and waning, I don’t know..)
    -Slimer
    -Yuk
    -Ratscrappa
    -Ratishade or Faticate (which do you guy say think? Faticate seems a little insensitive to me but it does fit the description of it from the pokemon website)
    -Raithru (Like ride the wave through but keeping Rai which I think means thunder)

    Thoughts, suggestions? Did I miss any of them?

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    • I don’t think they will have that big of an impact.
      I hope we get items to increase their duration however. And we need more abilities to take advantage of them

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      • it all depends if the Tapus are going to be banned. They are definitely going to be better than Ninetales, Politoad, Abomansow, imo. Plus people can actually abuse both the weather effects and the terrain at the same time (Rain + Electric Terrain is pretty good). But yeah the think that may hinder is the lack of abilities rn

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        • The Tapus will be good Pokemon and I doubt they will be banned (either Smogon or VGC), but it’s all about how well the terrains can be used (and abused) by other Pokemon.

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          • Me too. I’m looking forward to it more than the games.
            Like I said I feel Koko and ARaichu will be popular to start with but I wonder if it will last. Koko might remain popular but ARaichu may drop

  6. Who cares? The only time ash has ever really had a team that would be any sort of challenge in game was in the dp anime. There are so many other trainers I’m looking forward to battling again like Cynthia and blue. Ash would get stomped on by any player with even the slightest idea of how to play.

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  7. I hate the anime with a passion, thanks to this character. the only reason i’d want him in this game is to destroy him in battle, again, and again, and again. its not like he could win, he’s ash.

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        • I love the design and concept of both of them. Have done since Gen 3. Spent an eternity trying to catch Latios in Emerald cos it was a roaming Pokemon and I was too stupid to work out how to block it from running all the time.

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    • Recently it’s been Solgaleo because the overall design of it is amazing, and as a person who’s been wanting a sun legendary Solgaleo lives up to my expectations.

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    • Darkrai because it looks so cool, it’s a dark type, has dark in its name, can send others to sleep easily and gives them bad nightmares

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    • I have three

      Lunaala – Just night time beauty put into pokemon form. A bat is perfect to represent the moon. So sparkly

      Reshiram – I played Black version and having Reshiram choose me as a trainer is something so cool. Fighting N with the dragon that chose me as a hero in game is one of the most epic moments in the series. It really is a battle of Truth and Ideals

      Lugia – The guardian of the sea. It is so mysterious to me. It reminds me of a time where I was newer to the series after not playing the games in years. Legendary pokemon still had that mystery to them. Catching Lugia for the first time really made me feel like I was a powerful trainer

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      • I agree with the last one, Lugia was originally one of my favorite legendaries (and it still is) because it ad so much mystery to it and I had a FireRed/LeafGreen handbook (my main source of Pokemon back in the day) that didn’t talk about what typing it was, which attributed to it’s mystery. This mysterious part made me love Lugia.

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    • I think Jirachi is probably my overall favorite, but Regigigas and Deoxys come close. I love the fact that it remains dormant for millennium and can grant wishes. It also has a third eye.

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    • Dialga without question. I love steel types. I think gears are the perfect symbol of steel types as they all work so well with one another like a well running machine, and what better then the pokemon of time to represent this idea. It was the mascot that relit my love of pokemon and also game me my favorite pokemon to date. Plus its just plain fabulous.

      Also as an aside, check the forums of the official league Star. There’s been a change that you need to be made aware of.

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    • Lugia, only because Pokemon: The Movie 2000 was the best imo. Also, he kind of looks like an old, wise man who has had a lot of worldly experiences.

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    • Giratina. I remember finding out it was ghost/dragon and I flipped. Having a such a unique typing was one thing, but having another dimension to yourself was even more mind blowing.

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    • -Darkara: I can’t add more than Leo said

      -Ho-oh: not just cuz it’s phoenix and fire type with majestic design but cuz ecruteak city and tin tower them when u enter Tin(I like temples) and solve the puzzles while go uphill u really can sense there is a big deal here u know u will face legendary pkmn before see it.

      Yveltal: kinda the mix of these 2 above …..destruction god withe very simple and descent design more than enough for me.

      Deoxsys: u need too watch generations episode to know y.

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  11. So with Sun and Moon just around the corner (which means Gen VII is about to start), what has been a memorable part about any Gen VI games you’ve played through (like an interesting way a gym battle went, something about one of your Pokemon team members that happened, etc.)?

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    • I bought both games on the day I was coming back from vacation. Before we left we stopped by a game stop and me and my brother played on the way home. That was really cool!

      When my brother finally decided to finish Omega Ruby over a year after he got it, it came down to us trying to catch Deoxsys. It came down to 5 ultra balls and the pokemonwas using struggle. One more struggle and it was dead. We threw the pokeball… AND WE CAUGHT IT!!! At the last possible moment, we caught it!

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      • That sounds cool! Deoxys was an absolute pain to catch, I actually ran out of Ultra Balls and was forced to catch it with a Master Ball XD. It had a Jolly nature, which I suppose is good for a Physical Attacking Deoxys.

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    • My Rain Team was probably my highlight.
      Politoad, Klefki, Kingdra, Kabutops, Dragonite, Ferrothorn.

      Didn’t use it for too long, but I did enjoy it the most.

      I also had a Sun Team. Sableye, Venusaur, Victreebell, Darmanitan, and can’t remember the last two. Didn’t enjoy it as much as Rain, but was still fun.

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    • For me, the best part has been the new fairy type. GF did something really good when they introduced that type to nerf dragons and some the other offensive types and boost the viability of poison and steel types as offensive mons. The meta game took a turn for the better and I can only hope that the trend continues in Gen VII.

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  14. Well that was underwhelming. Big whoop Ash might be in the game. I could care less about that, i’m still trynna find out if that was the whole Alolan Dex leaked

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  16. Question: If you could design an Island Trial, what would the task consist of and which mon would act as the Totem for your trial??

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    • My trial would be climbing a spiraling mountain using only a certain number of given items and using a few certain rental pokemon.
      The total would be Kommo’o.

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  20. So I went to an open day for uni today (even though I got another say, year and a half of school first, but it’s mostly to see options and be able to make any last minute subject changes before I need to l) and it was so cool

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  23. I really hope this isn’t the case. Ash being in the games absolutely tears apart pretty much any canon we’ve had so far. If we can have Ash-Greninja, then we can have Ash-Pikachu IMO without Ash actually being there.
    Plus it’d be weird to have Ash and Red in the same game.

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