Before Staters’ Evolutions are Revealed, Choose One!

Which starter will you be choosing in Pokémon Sun & Moon (which are out NEXT MONTH for the 3DS)? Before any of the starting Pokémon’s evolutions are officially unveiled, why not vote down below?

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Recently a string of reminders for Tuesday’s news reveal have featured Rowlet, Litten and Popplio with the text “Have you already decided your starting Pokémon?” While not a sure sign we’ll see their second evolutions this week, it could definitely be a hint towards their reveal!

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873 thoughts on “Before Staters’ Evolutions are Revealed, Choose One!”

  1. Anyone else going to catch everything they dont have yet? I’m goona catch literally every pokemon I see unless I have them and it’s goona be awesome. If the EXP All returns then I might even keep some in my party just so I can see their evolutions

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    • I would guess EXP Share being for all will return can’t see pokemon cutting that as a Key item when its already been in 2 games. but i could be wrong

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    • That reminds me of what I did in BW2. They had that habitat list thing. I was bent on completing it, so I caught every pokemon I could on every route!

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      • Lol I do this in every pokémon game, it makes my progression slower but I’m kind of dedicated to the pokedex filling RP, and to completionist exploration. If only I wasn’t too lazy/had the time to evolve them afterwards haha.

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  2. New news on Tuesday.
    Like always I will predict it might be shorter again or longer with new info or pokemon.
    What might be in the PokeNews but i DOubt it is:
    Toucan Pokemon
    Starter Middle Evos
    New info
    Idk

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  3. We’re hopefully in for another huge pokemon info dump like the kind we got with Mudsdale, wimpod, etc. If we dont get any new pokemon at all then I believe we have once again received a gen with a low pokemon count. That or they’re saving the new ‘mons to be discovered in game.

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  4. Hello everyone,I’ve been silently watching every drama on this site since X and Y.And now I decided to create an account here.

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  5. Honestly I love all 3 of them in their initial stages. Litten is a cute fire kitten, but he is my least favorite of the 3. Popplio is not ugly at all in my eyes, his floppy ears and big pink nose just make him even more adorable, like a cute marine puppy. However, lord Rowlet is on another level, so simple, yet so much personality, I can’t wait till I have my own Rowlet.
    If the Chinese leaks are real, then the order stays the same. I really dislike Beltigre’s design, Entermaid is gorgeous and elegant similar to a Milotic, but I like Robinroot a lot more! His archer design is just pure genius in my opinion.

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  6. sun and moon may become the best soundtrack. the battle musics and encounter musics are incredible imo. I wonder what the routes will sound like tho.

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  7. I am back after some time off, my birthdeer is in less than a week on saturday, so i will be getting a reserve on the dual copy of pokemon sun and moon with the money, but i might also do something special if i got enough left, gotta make sure i can do it before i say anything.

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  8. I might be one of the minority here but I’m choosing Litten as my starter.I don’t care what his final evolution looks like,I’m sticking with Litten no matter what.I do have a habit of choosing a starter than everyone seems to dislike because of appearance,terrible stats or bad movepool

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  9. On the subject of starters, what are your personal favorites from each generation?
    – Generation 1: Bulbasaur
    – Generation 2: Chikorita
    – Generation 3: Torchic
    – Generation 4: Piplup/Turtwig/Chimchar
    – Generation 5: Oshawott/Snivy
    – Generation 6: Fennekin/Braixen
    – Generation 7: Rowlet/Popplio

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    • Gen 1. Squritle
      Gen 2. Cyndaquil
      Gen 3. Mudkip
      Gen 4. Chimchar
      Gen 5. Tepig
      Gen 6. Chespin
      Gen 7. Litten (I switched :3)

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    • 1. Bulbasaur and Charmander are on the same level of awesome for me, and Squirtle’s not far behind that.
      2. Cyndaquil and Totodile are on the same level, I do like Chikorita a lot too.
      3. All 3 pretty much the same level for me, I’ve used Blaziken the most though.
      4. Chimchar. I like the other 2 as well, just nowhere near as much.
      5. Snivy, I don’t like snakes but I do like this line. Tepig is second and Oshawott 3rd, mostly because of how disappointing Samurott is after Dewott.
      6, Froakie. I don’t care how overused it may be, I love it and my Shiny Greninja, Chespin is second, Fennekin 3rd.
      7. Currently Rowlet, Litten 2nd, Popplio last. Largely depends on evos for me.
      I actually like a lot of Mid stages more than final evos, like Wartortle and Bayleef, so these can be pretty important for me.

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    • Based on the whole line, not just the base stage starter:
      Gen 1: Charmander
      Gen 2: Totodile (though cyndaquil is a very close contender)
      Gen 3: Treecko (best gen for starters, but the Treecko line is still above the bunch)
      Gen IV: Turtwig (honestly all 3 are awesome lines, but if I had to pick one it’s Turtwig)
      Gen V: Oshawott (I like snivy better but I find Serperior bland compared to the awesome Samurott.
      Gen VI: Froakie
      Gen VII: Rowlet (Absolutely no contest judging by the final evos)

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    • Gen1 Charmander
      Gen2 Cyndaquil
      Gen3 Torchic
      Gen4 Piplup
      Gen5 Oshawott
      Gen6 Froakie
      Gen7 Litten

      No to grass! Except maybe treecko

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    • Gen 1: Chamander/Squirtle
      Gen 2: Totodile

      Gen 3: Torchic/Treecko
      Gen 4: Piplup
      Gen 5: Snivy
      Gen 6: Fennekin
      Gen 7: Litten/Rowet/Popplio

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    • Gen 1: Charmander
      Gen 2: Cyndaquil
      Gen 3: Mudkip
      Gen 4: Chimchar
      Gen 5: Tepig
      Gen 6: Froakie
      Gen 7: Litten

      Love how nobody has identical lists 🙂

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    • Gen 1: Squirtle, although I like charizard more than blastoise
      Gen 2: Totodile
      Gen 3: Torchic
      Gen 4: Turtwig, but love all
      Gen 5: Snivy
      Gen 6: They all suck ass
      Gen 7: Rowlet

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    • I have multiple starters on a few team
      But I’ll pick just one.
      – Generation 1: Charizard
      – Generation 2: Quilava
      – Generation 3: Sceptile
      – Generation 4: Infernape
      – Generation 5: Serperior
      – Generation 6: Greninja
      – Generation 7: Rowlet3
      Was hoping for another Water Starter of my taste.. I own a few… just not my fave fully evolved

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    • – Generation 1: Squirtle
      – Generation 2: All of them
      – Generation 3: Mudkip
      – Generation 4: Turtwig
      – Generation 5: Snivy
      – Generation 6: Fennikin
      – Generation 7: Rowlet

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    • – Generation 1: Bulbasaur
      – Generation 2: Cyndaquil
      – Generation 3: Mudkip
      – Generation 4: Piplup
      – Generation 5: Oshawott
      – Generation 6: Chespin
      – Generation 7: Rowlet

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    • – Generation 1: Bulbasaur (Onion Toad)
      – Generation 2: Chikorita (Flower Dinosaur)
      – Generation 3: Mudkip (Friendly Swamp Beast)
      – Generation 4: Turtwig (haven’t played DPP yet though)
      – Generation 5: Oshawott (my mom calls him “Ocelot”)
      – Generation 6: Chespin (Tank Chipmunk)
      – Generation 7: Popplio (could change, I like them all)

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    • They should give it a special evolution sequence like this. Reminds me of the transformations in Dragonball or Animorphs.

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  10. Litten all the way for me, though they’re all so beautiful with such amazing designs imo, there’s really not one I dislike. So it’s hard to choose because this gen has some of the best starters, but my choice when they were first shown and still is my first choice has always been Litten, even with those starter leaks I still absolutely adore this Pokemon and even love the evolution so I wouldn’t be disappointed at all if those were legit. Would have to say that it’s one of my favorites starters 🙂 and I do tend to stick to Fire as well normally since its one of my favorite typings

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  11. It’s funny how Popplio was clearly the least popular starter in the beginning and now it’s tied with Litten. A lot of people jumped Litten’s ship after the art leaked and went to both Popplio and Rowlet lol.

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        • I think it’s better than it could have been. I was worried it would become huge and fat or something. The leak may not even be real yet.

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          • If it somehow wasn’t real I don’t think I’ll ever trust another leak again. This is the most credible leak ever in the history of pokemon leaks

          • I guess, still until it’s officially revealed I won’t fully trust it anyway, even if the leaker that was right about everything else says they are real. It’s not that I’m against them or anything.

          • Or they knew Mallow and made the rest up. I’m not saying I think they are fake, I’m just not fully on board until their official reveal.

    • Making “something that people don’t expect” does not automatically equal good. Also if it’s fire/fighting then there is really no surprise here at all. Litten3 just looks really cartoony and silly and worst of all, it’s so fucking disproportionate.
      Really curious to see how the second stage bridges the gap between litten and litten3

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    • Allow me to put up some personal thoughts about people hate for the design. When really it’s not ugly by any means.

      Tigrage (Litten’s evo)

      1. It in general: Oh where do I begin with the complaints on this one? There are plenty of reasons people hate this, but it’s not because it’s a bad or an unoriginal design, no, people hate it before looking deeper to why it’s designed like this. And as an artist I can see that this is a very brilliant design and has a surprising amount of thought put into it than I’ve seen in a while, and it there still so much I keep finding out about it. And let me give some of the reasons.

      2. It has big muscles and it wrestles so it must be Fire/Fighting type: To be honest when I first saw it I thought it was Fighting type too and if anything that would be my only qualm with this one, but thanks to translated descriptions of the concept art, it says it likes to cheat and fight dirty. Along with it’s menacing face these sounds like aspects of a Dark type pokemon. And a reason the Dark typing works for this form even more, is because Tigrage resembles a heel wrestler, the villains in the wrestling community. They cheat, fight dirty (doesn’t that sound familiar), and purposfully get boos from the audience which is called heat (which matches the fire typing). Remember, people also assumed Braixen was going to become a Fire/Fighting type because it stood on two legs. You’d think we’d learn to not jump the gun by now, but who am I kidding.

      3. It’s bipedal: This was always a dumb reason to me. Probably the most pettiest reason to not like a pokemon I’ve ever seen. Since when did we start giving about how many legs a pokemon stands on? Or when did we even care how animalistic a pokemon is supposed to look? It comes out of nowhere and I think this complaint only exists because the fandom needs SOMETHING to have a reason to hate a design. Have some ever bothered thinking how unoriginal a quad evo of Litten would look? That thing would be even more unoriginal and boring because it’d just be a tiger…on fire. That is so uninspired and lazy it hurts. Look, if you just play pokemon to watch actual normal animals fight each other, watch the Discovery Channel, you’ll get plenty of that than in a game involved with supernatural creatures which aren’t supposed to be normal animals. How many legs a pokemon stands on doesn’t make it unique or special. It’s such a minor detail, and it irritates to see this complaint that this is all it takes to make people hate a design.

      4. It’s proportions are dumb-looking: Oh yeah, you guys don’t like it’s giant hands huh? You ever questioned why they went that route? Let me give you an animal fact. Tigers have abnormally huge paws. Pretty much about as long and wide as your face. For a cat that is freakishly huge huge. So it having big paws actually makes sense to the actual animal. Also tigers are very muscular. So much, that one swipe from them can smash a bulls skull. So being muscley, also makes sense to the real life animal. So this thing stays more true to the animal than some people give it credit for.

      5. It wasted it’d wasted it’s potential: No, it lived up to it’s potential. This form was actually foreshadowed by Litten sinse day one. Remember that Litten keeps it’s emotions under the surface? As someone who does this as well, I know that if you bottle up your emotions like that, then you better be prepared to explode with tons of them eventually. And look how the final form ended up. You’re probably also questioning what happened to the oily fur aspect of Litten. Well that part of it also plays into this form, because wrestlers actually do cover themselves in oil for muscle definition. Did you also know that oiling yourself up is also a cheating method in wrestiling? That’s because it makes slippery and you can’t be grabbed. Remember Tigrage loves to cheat? Well it has a built in cheating method. That’s awesome. Another fun fact. Some people have noticed another particular part of Tigrage. If you ever hear of the alchemy theory for the starters, well you know Litten supposedly represents sulphur due to the markings on it’s head. Well some noticed another alchemic symbol on Tigrage’s torso. The stripes that connect to the belt resembles the symbol for vitriol, an oily acidic green substance that’s formed from sulphur. It’s sulphuric acid basically. You can actually see it spitting this green oil in the concept art. This guy literally spits acid. It may not be the Fire/Poison type people were expecting, but this guy has the potential to actually be able to use Poison type moves, which is awesome. This guy actually exceeded it’s own expectations rather than just stick to being a boring regular ol’ tiger. If anything, this is the most unique fire starter and big cat pokemon we’ve had yet.

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      • I just wanted the final form to be quadrupedal to make it more majestic and what not, but the more I get used to it and find things I like about it, the more I grow to accept it. Thanks for the comment, really helped me and showed I was going the right path. 🙂

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      • Good explanation my friend. I think people are afraid if Beltigre stands on 2 legs, it will be part Fighting. We still don’t know its typing yet, there are still some possibilities for it.

        In the design aspect, Beltigre is awesome. Imagine if it’s quadrupedal. It will look like Raikou and the other cat Pokemon (maybe like Persian on fire), even can be comparable with Houndoom. By being bipedal, it will be a different cat Pokemon.

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    • I disagree with this so much though. I don’t think unexpected is always good either I like starter evos to feel like natural evolutions. Sinnoh staters do that, balanced changes. I’m not saying the Litten evolution doesn’t do that, it does. But becoming brawny and fierce ? Pretty much like every fire other starter except for Delphox and maybe typhlosion. There were loads of memes depicting Litten with a muscular body as a joke, and that’s basically what happened. The only reason it’s unexpected for me is because I never thought they’d make a starter look fire/fighting again

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      • Charizard, Typhlosion, Blaziken, Infernape and Emboar, were definitely not brawny. Three of the were thick, and chubby, and three were svelte. This one’s actually the first muscular starter. Also, fierce is kind of the point of some starter evolutions.

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    • This is so accurate. One thing I’ve always disliked in fan designs are Pokémon that essentially look like bigger versions of what they’re supposed to have evolved from. I mean, you could argue that this /has/ happened before (e.g. Bulbasaur line only really has subtle changes as it grows)… but I mean, just look at the changes in Torchick > Blaziken, Froakie > Greninja, Chespin > Chesnaught (various examples of how vastly different an evolution can be, whilst still making some logical sense).
      P.S. Litten was my least favourite starter (it just seems so… generic), but it’s supposed final stage is not (that place goes to Popplio 3).

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    • I don’t find it a ‘bad’ design at all; it’s obvious someone put a lot of effort into it.

      It’s just that I (and obviously many other people) were really hoping that Litten would stay quadropedal and turn into a majestic tiger-like thing, instead of a hulked-out humanoid Tony Tiger-like thing.

      And yeah I know we already have Luxray, Pyroar and Solgaleo for majestic big cats that stayed quadropedal…but they’re all based on lions. A gorgeous lithe tiger would be *so* awesome.

      If this is Litten’s final evo, and it’s looking like it is…then I’ll be ok with it. It’l just take a while to get over the disappointment. (Hell, I got over Delphox I can get over anything :P)

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