RUMOR: Chinese Riddler Updates Their Pokémon List

Another Pokémon Sun & Moon reveal, another update from the mysterious Chinese leaker who only gives cryptic clues about Pokémon that will be revealed. This update comes after the reveal of Lycanroc, Passimian and Oranguru and here are some things that I’m noting:

  • The split-form nature of Lycanroc is noted by a divided box, but the final evolutions of the starters are not, suggesting that the secret “shared” by Rockruff and the starters is not version-exclusive evolutionary forms
  • The “Aristotle” Pokémon seems to be connected to UB-01 suggesting that maybe Ultra Beasts will be obtainable similarly to Pokémon… or maybe they even have a Pokémon counterpart?
  • Ultra Beasts do seem to be included right alongside Pokémon in his list, nested right between traditional “legendary” Pokémon

These are just my own personal thoughts after see the grid, I’m just playing along with everyone else trying to figure out what he means 🙂 Have to say… it is kind of fun.

<3 PJ

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    • Actually the faded Pokemon are simply old Pokemon seen in pre-release material other than battle footage, as well as any Pokemon related to those. For instance, Meganium was seen on a t-shirt in an artwork, which is why all the Johto starters are faded. I personally doubt they will be included in the Alola Pokedex, though.

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      • I don’t think that’s it at all. 8 actually 100% think that’s the Pokémon from previous regions in the regional dex. Faded Pokémon have Alola Forms. It would be too obvious if they included the confirmed Alolas on that list so they were removed. Notice Pichu, Pikachu, and Cubone are on the list, but not Raichu or Marowak.

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        • All the faded one were seen as obscured items in past trailers. Also reason Raichu and Marowak weren’t added cause they already are in the game as Alolan forms.

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  1. Maybe the shared feature Rockruff has with the starters are forms depending on Day and Night. Maybe they get new abilities, forms, or powers depending on the time of day.

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  2. jesus christ its like X and Y over again…. we’ll be getting less new pokemon and a bunch of old pokemon rehashes with different typing. Gamefreak pls, can you just make a game with just new pokemon like you did with Black and White?

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  3. I wonder why Gamefreak doesn’t hold contests for fans to submit Pokemon designs. I follow some extremely talented people on Instagram and there are some Deviantart artists that make designs that far surpass those that Gamefreak comes up with. I wish they would do that, that way when their we’ll runs dry they have some 10 or so fan designs they can add.

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    • pokemon we’ve seen in trailers. one form in the line accounts for the rest of the line. starters that are seen include the rest of the three and their lines.

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          • I’ll tell you what I mean. Steelix, Huntail, Lanturn, Whishcash, and Wailord are seen as boats in the docks of an island. Tyranitar, Haxorus was seen in the Battle Royal. Porygon is a blow drier in pokemon refresh. Horsea, Spheal, Lumineon, were seen on that water hotel place. Meganium was a print on a man’s shirt. Slaking is on a billboard for a motel. Electrode is one of Sophocles’ keychains. Gothorita is a shirt design.

          • I’m not saying that doesn’t make sense. I’m saying that until we know for sure, you’re guessing as much as the rest of us. Also, if this guy is supposed to be leaking information, who really cares about what Pokémon appear on clothing and have hair dryers styled after them?

            Also I like Alola Forms so I think it’d be cool to see Johto starters and the Haxorus family get them. 🙂

          • Because this isn’t a riddle. It’s only a complied list of pokemon we’ve seen, so don’t take this particular image too seriously. If anything, only pay attention to the images like the toucan and stuff cause those are the legitimate riddles. These really aren’t guesses. Bulbapedia and I have paying attention to this dude for a good couple of months.

      • Whining means what one’s preconceived ideas of what the series is supposed to be isn’t the same as what the people making it have decided it is and a certain level of refusal to accept that.

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          • Oh no, he’s absolutely right! But it’s also fun to speculate and have expectations 🙂 I don’t think whining equals bashing.

          • I don’t have any problem any changes or additions they’ve ever made to Pokémon. I’ve always been excited or neutral. I have stated that, Arceus forbid, if they reboot Pokémon I’ll stop playing. Which is what I suggest all the people whining about Megas, Alolas, Z-Moves, etc should do. Pokémon is a source of entertainment. If there are irreconcilable changes added to the game and all it’s gonna do is upset you, stop playing.

          • Neither have I 🙂 Been playing since I was a little girl on my pink gameboy color. Love it just as much as an adult. I agree that neutrality is the best way to go with things you really love. However, like I said I don’t think whining equals bashing but that’s just my opinion.

          • Yea I mean I’m surprised no one has gotten on me for whining about whining. lol But the reason I keep coming back on here is because I don’t have too many people to talk to about Pokémon. xD

  4. For those who wondered, this is what the original Chinese leaker has been right on:

    Z-Diamonds
    Pyukumuku
    Lycanroc
    Salandit
    Oricorio
    Mimikyu
    Bewear
    Gumshoos’s design
    Island Challenges

    Other stuff he’s most likely correct on are: Dolphin, snowman, Marshadow’s unique typing and the leaked starter evos names (I only remember Siren for Popplio)

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  5. Sorry because this is a little bit off-topic, but how many more announcements (Coro Coro leaks being distinct from these announcements) do you all think we have left before the game release?
    I think there will be:
    -4 announcements
    -1 Coro Coro leak with information repeated by announcements; November issue.
    -1 Coro Coro leak with its own information that is not shown in the announcements. This will be the December issue.

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  6. this was insanely weird
    last Showdown i fought this guy
    but the very next match i fought WAS THE SAME EXACT TEAM only shiny
    the same pokemon, the exact same set ups, and the exact same amount of annoying (but luckily i won) http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-442554435
    i can’t tell if it’s uncanny coincidence or that people are just getting really cookie cutter

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  7. Think I found another 4chan leak guys

    I will post the names+types by dexnumber

    >#722 Menemai’a Fairy/Ground

    >#723 Rowlet Grass/Flying

    >#724 Throwler Grass/Flying

    >#725 Bowanowl Grass/Flying (Archer Owl in Sun, Rogue Owl in Moon)

    >#726 Litten Fire

    >#727 Litigre Fire

    >#728 Tigreatest Fire/Dark (Wrestler Cat in Sun, Mobster Cat in Moon)

    >#729 Popplio Water

    >#730 Sirlio Water/Fairy

    >#731 Selkio Water/Fairy (Siren in Sun, Merman in Moon)

    >#732 Pikipek Normal/Flying

    >#733 Pakapecker Normal/Flying

    >#734 Peckadrill Steel/Flying

    >#735 Grubbin Bug

    >#736 Charjabug Bug/Electric

    >#737 Vikavolt Bug/Electric

    >#738 Rockruff Rock

    >#739 Lycanroc Rock (Wolf in Sun, Werewolf in Moon)

    >#740 Komala Normal

    >#741 Narcolyptus Normal

    >#742 Yungoos Normal

    >#743 Gumshoos Normal

    >#744 Cutiefly Bug/Fairy

    >#745 Honeebee Bug/Fairy

    >#746 Togedemaru Electric/Steel

    >#747 Mimikyu Fairy/Ghost

    >#748 Mimikmii Fairy/Ghost

    >#749 Mudbray Ground

    >#750 Mudsdale Ground

    >#751 Drakid Normal/Dragon

    >#752 Drampa Normal/Dragon

    >#753 Draggone Ghost/Dragon

    >#754 Impailmint Fairy/Poison

    >#755 Dwarvour Fairy/Poison

    >#756 Bounsweet Grass

    >#757 Sweetreet Grass/Fairy

    >#758 Bounsour Poison/Ghost

    >#759 Comfey Fairy

    >#760 Fomantis Grass

    >#761 Lurantis Grass

    >#762 Stufful Normal/Fighting

    >#763 Bewear Normal/Fighting

    >#764 Passimian Fighting

    >#765 Champanzee Fighting/Ground

    >#766 Pongoru Normal

    >#767 Oranguru Normal/Psychic

    >#768 Salandit Fire/Poison

    >#769 Burnadit Fire/Poison (Female Only Evolution)

    >#770 Impailmint Fairy/Poison

    >#771 Dwarvour Fairy/Poison

    >#772 Minior Flying/Rock

    >#773 Rockateer Flying/Rock

    >#774 Oricorio (Four Forms) Fire/Flying, Electric/Flying, Ghost/Flying, Psychic/Flying

    >#775 Sandyghast Ghost/Ground

    >#776 Palossand Ghost/Ground

    >#777 Tikiki Grass

    >#778 Tikiking Fire/Grass

    >#779 Stingalil Electric/Poison

    >#780 Stingowar Electric/Poison

    >#781 Bruxish Water/Psychic

    >#782 Bruxugg Water/Psychic

    >#783 Wishiwashi Water

    >#784 Crabrawler Fighting

    >#785 Clawber Fighting/Water

    >#786 Pyukumuku Water

    >>

    >#787 Turto Fire/Dragon

    >#788 Turtonator Fire/Dragon

    >#789 Firebawl Fairy/Fire

    >#790 Impcinerator Fairy/Fire

    >#791 Misstryst Fairy/Dark

    >#792 Whipskers Normal/Steel

    >#793 Catonines Dark/Steel

    >#794 Slusha Ice/Poison

    >#795 Snowno Ice/Poison

    >#796 Morelull Grass/Fairy

    >#797 Pixilull Grass/Fairy

    >#798 Toxilull Poison/Dark

    >#799 Magehopper Bug/Psychic

    >#800 Dolphun Water/Fairy

    >#801 Pixon Fairy/Dragon

    >#802 Magix Fairy/Dragon

    >#803 Houdinee Normal/Ghost

    >#804 Lightup Fire/Electric

    >#805 Lampurn Fire/Electric

    >#806 Rapturn Rock/Poison

    >#807 Velocix Rock/Poison

    >#808 Anklohm Rock/Electric

    >#809 Anklohmode Rock/Electric

    >#810 Wimpod Bug/Water

    >#811 Shrimpod Bug/Water

    >#812 Champod Water/Flying

    >#813 Type: Null Normal

    >#814 Tapu Ahihi Fire/Fairy

    >#815 Tapu Koko Electric/Fairy

    >#816 Tapu Mana’o Psychic/Fairy

    >#817 Tapu Hane Ghost/Fairy

    >#818 Jangmo’o Dragon

    >#819 Daimo’o Dragon/Fight

    >#820 Shango’o Dragon/Fight

    >#821 Eclipsle Psychic/Dark (Evolves into Solgaleo in Sun, Lunala in Moon)

    >#822 Solgaleo Psychic/Steel

    >#823 Lunala Dark/Ghost

    >#824 Marshadow Poison/Psychic

    >#825 Magearna Steel/Fairy

    >#826 Manticull Dark/Bug

    >#827 Toa-Gro Fairy/Psychic

    >#828 Toa-Cho Fairy/Bug

    >#829 Toa-Ko Fairy/Fighting

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  8. so later today i wanted to work on my Normal/Rock Mountain goat Precibex but it needs a prevo
    i was going to name it Rockid or Rukid but i think that’s too obvious what do y’all think

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  9. Actual translation from concept art.

    1. Has a wild and gusty persona
    2. Fights dirty- spits ember in its opponents face, isn’t above using unconventional items or means, uses Fire Spin from its belt.
    4. Has a signature move called BeastTiger Swing???
    5. That Belt gets hotter the more “passionate” it is

    Key: Fights dirty- spits ember in its opponents face, isn’t above using unconventional items or means

    Dark types are mostly associated with sinnister or cheating means. Even it’s face looks sinnister

    So I’m pretty sure that’s Dark type.

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  10. IDK why but honestly i can see ash catching Litten’s final evo instead of evolving a litten to its final. like I could honestly see another charizard type where it doesn’t listen instead of sleeping it just literally just does what it wants and does it own attacks recklessly

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  11. Jangmo-o’s soooo turning into a part Steel-type. They’re touting this thing as a Fairy killer and with Soundproof, ain’t no Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice is touching it. Also the fact that it uses its scales for both defense and offense just screams Aegislash.

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  12. Thank god! I always wanted to catch and train UB-01! Maybe they will have have alternate names, fitting for legendary Pokemon! UB-01 would have the name Meduzys. Twilit Pokemon.

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