Greetings Junglers, Evan here! Sorry for the long wait, but here’s the next Elite Four Showdown. The winner of the Johto-round is Karen! She won with an amazing 50%! She’s followed by Koga (27%), Bruno (13%) and Will (10%) respectively.
In the next round it’s between the Hoenn Elite Four members. Vote and let us know who you picked in the comments below!
Sydney
- Encounter 1
- Dark
- Mightyena, Cacturne, Shiftry, Sharpedo and Absol
- Name: Sinister, insidious or sadness
- Trivia: Sydney is the only Hoenn Elite Four member who does not share a specialty type with a Kanto Elite Four member.
Phoebe
- Encounter 2
- Ghost
- Dusclops, Banette, Banette, Sableye and Dusclops
- Name: Phobia or phantom
- Trivia: She is the only Ghost-type specialist who does not use a Gengar at some point.
Glacia
- Encounter 3
- Ice
- Glalie, Froslass, Glalie, Froslass, Walrein
- Name: Glacial or glacier
- Trivia: Glacia says she thinks her Ice-type Pokémon can be better trained in a hot region like Hoenn.
Drake
- Encounter 4
- Dragon
- Shelgon, Altaria, Flygon, Flygon and Salamence
- Name: Dragon
- Trivia: Drake is the only Hoenn Elite Four member who makes an appearance in the anime.
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X — EVAN
I can’t vote 🙁 so DRAKE!
Drake is like the male version of butterface.
fehhhhh
Phoebe cause of her design, although Sydney uses my #2 favourite typing.
whats ur first
Water
I’d vote for Phoebe if I could. Although I love Sydney for his type speciality I have to choose Phoebe for her design (looks like a water-type master but uses ghost-type pkm)
I’m choosing Glacia since she made the biggest improvement between RSE and ORAS design-wise.
Dragon trainers and sexy women are the only ones capable of winning xD
I voted Phoebe
Untrue, considering Volkner won everything..
Touché. Forgot about that. Maybe I’m projecting my own preferences lol
I haven’t been on pokejungle for years! Glad to see its still as awesome as ever. I voted Drake! I used to think he only had one arm for ages…
Glacia is the strongest Ice type trainer I’ve ever faced, and that’s commendable to be strong using that type. Voting for her. Tough tho, these are my favorite Elite 4!
Okay? Glacia is thicc ?????
Voting for Phoebe.
I like Ghost Types and she was quite challenging in the originals. Also I like how she’s connected the old couple on Mt. Pyre. Gives here a little character development. Also love her ORAS challenge animation.
https://twitter.com/pokeloot/status/778680013897871361
ughhhhhhh it was too good to be true……
just thinking about it does that mean Mega Rayquaza can use a z-move?
Lol yes, that’ll be awesome
this is why you cant combine the two
I say ban Rayquaza from both its bad really bad either way
Imagine the animation when Mega Evolving and using a Z-move on the same turn
honestly what if this was just a example? since mega gardevoir is a strong pokemon? I still dont think this confirms anything at all just adds a bit more to the megas are back side
I think what is meant is that there will be Mega-Evolution mechanics in Sun and Moon. People were freaking out thinking that mega evolution will be a sixth generation exclusive thing.
I dont mind megas being in or not, I just hope there is some boundaries now. like will Mega Khanga be able to hit 4 times with a oranguru on its side with instruct? Mega Ray with a Z-move, The lumur getting parental bond from a fainted Mega Khanga?
I didn’t see the new article so I’ll ask on this one lol. Besides Dark and Fairy, what are the least used types by gym leaders
fire
To my belief there are two Steel Gyms Jasmine and Byron so Steel
also ground
Actually every types Gym leader total
Steel-2
Psychic-3
Ground-2
Dark-0
Fairy-1
Water-5 (counting Cress)
Grass-4 (counting Cilan)
Fire-3 (counting Chilie)
Electric-5
Normal-4
Poison-2 (not counting Koga)
Rock-4
Fighting-4
Ice-4
Ghost-1
Dragon-2 (not counting Iris)
Bug-3
Flying-3
So technically Fairy and Ghost have the lowest that have one at all and Electric and Water most with 5 each
Thank you soooooo much!
Your welcome but let’s all thank bulbapedia too.
Wait I thought Ghost had two with Morty and The woman from DPPt
Oh shoot my bad I missed Fantina so Ghost has two not one
All good. Thanks again for getting the info and letting me know. It’s helps with my story lol
What story?
I’ve been writing a story with Pokemon for the last several months and needed a few ideas for gym leaders in my region
-A ghost type grave digger
-An ice type architect who makes ice buildings something like this: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/ice-buildings-harbin-ice-snow-world-harbin-china-28659470.jpg
-Steel type blacksmith/pokeball maker guy?
-Normal type music star
-Electric type meteorologist
-Fairy type author lady person
-Psychic type leader who doesn’t actually have powers, just fakes it and rips people off. Could be a side antagonist.
– Grass type explorer guy
I have names for three gym leaders so far: Roland(Ground), Orion(Electric) and Ashley(Fire)
Orion is an odd choice for an Electric type trainer given Orion was a hunter.
Make him that grass leader I suggested. Like a jungle exploring explorer/hunter guy.
Except then he’s be working with Sawsbuck instead of hunting them. Which would be a bit backwards 😛
Earthen
(Note: gym leader. Heh)
I love Glacia. I really wish she was a gym leader instead so shecould get more character delopment!
Wow
Mimikyu’s unique ghost/fairy typing means it is immune to normal, fighting and dragon attacks, and its only weakness is steel.
oh, and ghost
Get ready to face those
My main team already will have one
I might use it if it has an evo
It doesn’t need an evolution for me
My team idea so far cause you have missed the picture yesterday
Popplio
Snorlax
Alolan Sandslash
Lycanroc
Flareon, Sylveon, Umbreon, or Leafeon depending on my mood
Togedemaru/Mimikyu they will rotate on my team
It screams single stage to me
That or High friendship
I’d be surprised if it evolved. I’d like for it to, but then again I’d like for everything to be able to evolve
For me two that don’t need it Sawk and Throh
Unless they started from the same pokemon that evolves by learning throwing or punching/kicking moves…
true
i really hope it gets a evolution
Glacia is probably one of the most forgettable E4 members ever. That said, I don’t know whether to choose between Sydney or Phoebe. They both have good designs, but Sydney has a better team.
At least he doesn’t have a beer belly *Glares at Chuck*
And you don’t need a 6-pack to take off your shirt, correct me if I’m wrong…
But he’s so pale and old..and I can see his ribs. He’s not good looking.
I liked chuck, showed you don’t have to be skinny to be a tough fighter.
The way people act these days you do.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/beer-body.jpg
I was trying to help out skinny people, now I get called a fat-shamer.
Geez, people need to loosen up, you SJWs and these PC people need to calm down.
Skinny does not mean they’re tough fighter either. If you are skinny, you weigh less, you cannot fight a 250 pound heavy-weight muscular dude. Chuck is obviously muscular, but he has a beer belly… which is very unattractive.
The way people like you act these days, geez. I’m done.
Well you did say “At least he doesn’t have a beer belly *Glares at Chuck*”.
And by saying his beer belly is “unattractive”, yeah that’s pretty much fat shaming.
That was intended as lighthearted conversation, but you called me an SJW and this wasn’t even about feminism or gender, so now it’s not.
Another poll, another day of non-working vote button 😀
Can you try voting now?? I worked on some cache stuff and it worked for me.
Otherwise perhaps try clearing browser cache too
Clearing my browser cache made no difference (it’s set to automatically wipe my history and cache every time I close the browser anyway, but I did a manual clear as well to make sure). But I tried visiting on my alternate browser (I usually use Firefox but have Chrome as a back up) and it worked.
I’m going to look at my cookie and javascript settings to double check pokejungle is on my exceptions list, but at the moment it’s looking as if it might be fixed.
I’m just one user though, so I can’t say whether or not it’s fixed it for everyone.
I know other people were previously complaining they couldn’t vote either, so you’ll probably want to check with 2-3 more people just to be sure.
Out of interest, I tend to have heavy restrictions on what sites I’ll let my browser pull cookies and scripts from because I’m opposed to most uses of analytics, beacons and cookies for purposes other than log-in mechanisms, so I’m probably an edge case – most people just leave their browsers with all the settings on default.
I don’t know if it’s something I did or something you did, but after turning one of my addons off and on again and refreshing the background of the website and all the images are back, everything seems to be working normally.
I won’t know until the next poll if the poll mechanism is fixed for definate because I filled the poll in on Chrome, but at least I know I have a browser it will work on.
I’m going to assume everything is fixed for now, but if there are any issues the next time a poll comes around, I’ll attempt a few things to see if I can isolate anything that might cause the issue and ask if anyone else has any issues. Hopefully though, it seems as if everything is fixed.
Haxford you and I have something in something slightly in common I only plan Pokemon and Pokemon like games includes titles like (Kirby, Yo-Kai watch, Digimon, and the only Starfy game to come to America)
Kirby is nothing like Pokemon…
It’s in the Nintendo family and it has a cute creatures so in that sense yes yet none else
Also with Starfy that’s true
OMG I loved starfy. I’m so sad that they never localized the other games.
Yeah I only a few years ago beat it I almost gave myself 1 degree burns on my thumb and almost broke the Y button on my DSi beating the final boss
Only in that sense.
All forgettable E4 IMO, but then again nearly every eliter four is forgettable. They should be like Flint, have a small part outside of sitting in their chambers.
*elite
Ubisoft says NX is “fantastic”, also “a new approach, it’s really Nintendo”
hyyyppe
Too early for hype.
And the patent they wrote made me fall asleep.
If 3rd parties are happy then I’m intrigued
3rd parties are always happy when there’s money to go around.
Besides, the patent for Katamari was a much more amusing read: http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US7402104
Oh Drake
OMG GF/Pokemon Company have been planning Z-moves for ages it seems. https://twitter.com/Sol_Calibre/status/778299662092668929
This is the 5th time I’ve seen that Pikachu dance and the first time was when it was first released – before the pokemon trailer.
You should’ve seen thing coming with the questions I’ve been asking. xD
http://pokejungle.net/forums/index.php?/topic/151-lets-start-up-jade-jungle-again/
Have you not looked on torrent sites?
The whole ROM is almost certainly lying around in a torrent somewhere.
For JadeJungle?
Yeah.
Someone will have a copy, and where there’s a someone there’s a torrent.
You realize it wasn’t ever finished, right?
But they released beta versions to the public, yes?
Or are you telling me there was just a wiki and nobody ever got to trial the game?
No. It never got past basic development and ideas stage. Also can you link me to the wiki?
So everyone’s been upset over something that never really got off the drawing board?
I don’t know if there is one, I was guessing. If they didn’t have a wiki they must have been very early in.
Upset? I don’t think we’re on the same page here. I mean, the game started being developed, but there was still lots of planning to be done concerning the dex and the everything.
A lot of people got upset at it being taken down.
Sounds to me like it never got off the drawing board.
Pretty much. xD It takes a lot of time to do this, especially when trying to organize things with a group of people. IDK, maybe we had a demo, but I don’t remember.
If there was a demo you’d probably at least be able to scrape it for image data. I’d presume there was a demo if they got shut down, otherwise they’d be a non-threat.
Come to think of it, I’m sure someone said it was made in RPG Maker and wasn’t actually a ROM.
Oh yeah that’s true. But don’t you have a ROM as your base?
Not if you’re using RPG Maker…
A ROM is just a dump of a game cartridge (including its instructions). RPG Maker outputs a different format entirely. Dunno if that’d be an exe or a zipped set of scripts or what, I tend to work directly with libraries rather than scripting for engines 😛
Oh. It’s been so long since I’ve used RPG maker, sorry.
I can’t find any info about the output format, but I’m assuming it’s either proprietary scripts run through an interpreter or it generates an exe.
I’ll just say this though. Making a game? Pretty hard. Making a pokemon fan game based on a fansite? Pretty freaking hard. This has to be planned well to go anywhere
Of course. Also I don’t think it’s a great idea to base the game so much on the site and people themselves, but rather just kind of have easter eggs and such. Like I remeber that Earthen (not named earthen though) was planned to be an evil team leader. I’d say first thing so to regroup what we know and gather interest. It was a lot of fun the first time we tried, so it’ll be worth it.
Still though. Planning is super important for a big project like this. You cant just jump into it
Well what would you suggest on how we do that? The forums seems like the obvious answer, but how about this: we take surveys for certain things, and I’ll create a database for the confirmed information?
Slack and Google Docs is what we used when I worked on a fan game a while back.
What is “slack”?
It’s a messaging app/website designed for teams and groups. Kinda like skype for work
I’ll check it out, sounds quite efficient. 🙂
@silverriolualpha:disqus is right, making an RPG game is a long undertaking assuming you weren’t taken down by Nintendo. Plus the added bonus that the guys who made Jade Jungle could sue you for using their stuff without permission.
You can probably get away with putting easter eggs in things or fan art, but recreating a game you don’t own any of the IP or assets of is both hard work and legally dubious.
You gotta keep in mind that the average pokemon game that starts a generation has a development time of around 3-5 years with hundreds of professionals working every day. I won’t mind making concept art, but this isn’t something I would bank on happening. There is a reason the original fell through
D: I realize the time commitment in this. I’d like to at least try to do this again, there’s no point is saying that’s it’s doomed from the start. If I don’t get enough interest I’m just going to go ahead and start something from scratch.
Pokemon Uranium took 8+ years of development. I would love to see this thing beat the odds and come to fruition, but it really isn’t realistic
That isn’t a reason not to try though.
Bud, listen. after 8 years of development, it was taken down after a day. That time could have been spent making a spiritual successor that they could make money for. While it may be just for fun, it is still a waste of time
Then why don’t we try to make something new (the jungle I mean)? I just want to make a game with you guys, it was so fun the first time.
*coughs*
*points upwards to comments about game ‘inspired by pokemon’ distancing itself from the real games*
What?
http://pokejungle.net/2016/09/21/elite-four-showdown-hoenn/#comment-2909350938
“Alternative”
If what your suggesting is a rip off, I like it. xD
It’s not a rip off.
It’s doing what Spectrobes and Digimon did.
A game featuring monsters inspired by Pokemon and other monster catching RPGs, but with its own branding and enough different mechanics to be classed as a competator rather than a clone. It’s expressing the right to a competative market.
Fine print is everything.
Spectrobes is great. I wish they’d made another game.
What if the only people who can play it are us?
I think what we’re doing now is something similar yet different.
In what way?
http://pokejungle.net/2016/09/21/elite-four-showdown-hoenn/#comment-2909350938
The alternative I was mentioning.
That would work fine if it stayed that way, but other people will hear about it and want a copy, and then it would get copied and copied and word would spread until it reached Nintendo.
So it could work, but it would have to be clandestine and it would still technically be breaking a few copyright laws. I’d rather the “similar, but different enough” approach.
I like that one actually because we could keep the brand and it wouldn’t get taken down.
Only problem is it’s relying on clandestine secrecy and still breaking copyright law. It would make discussing it hard given how much people are monitored these days.
*he said on an open discussion than literally anyone on the internet can read*
I’m planning on diverting it so much that it won’t be a huge issue.
We release it. A day later: Verlisify-NINTENDO! SUE POKEJUNGLE! THEY MADE A HORRIBLE FAN GAME. lol
The sad thing is that’s probably what would happen XD
Funny thing is that pokejungle istelf didn’t make it, the users did. xD
I’ve got a feeling in the law’s eyes not stopping it would make them an accessory, but I don’t know, I’m a programmer not a lawyer.
Ah, seems Uranium is what I’ve been getting Jade Jungle mixed up with. Oops.
Oh I get it now! xD
That’s why I thought it was already a thing with a demo.
Plus Jade and Uranium are both green stones… even if one is more deadly…
It is doomed though, every pokemon game that’s ever been made has been shut down due to IP infringement. We’re trying to save you time or offer you alternatives that might work.
You don’t get it. I’m simply trying to make the game for fun, I don’t care if people play it.
Then by all means go ahead, but if you post it anywhere, don’t get upset when it gets taken down and be very careful about getting taken to court/sued.
Have they ever done that about a Pokemon fan game? O_0
I think usually they just give a gentle tap on the shoulder, a sinister smile, and then proclaim “Scrap it. Now.” before the owner complies. Most people are sensible enough to comply.
I don’t have any evidence of them sueing for games, but they’ve sued for less: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/10/the_pokemon_company_sues_fan_for_copyright_infringement_demands_usd4000_in_damages
Hmm. Alright. Well I guess we won’t do that. I’m still going to try to make a new game, it’s fun, but thanks for talking some sense into me.
Yes, I know that it’s a huge job, I’m not new to this. I realize the legal issues, but it’s not like we’re selling the game or anything. It’s literally just for fun, creating Jade Jungle was fun for me the first time around, I’d like to continue. And, oh, I was one of the leaders in making Jade Jungle the first time around, me and a few other people made most of the progress.
“just for fun” isn’t an excuse for infringing IP, the courts won’t buy that, they never will.
The only way to be safe is to cut all ties with pokemon and make a clone that brands itself as something different.
Then how did all the other Pokemon fan games do it?
Either they get caught out eventually or they manage to stay under the radar for a few years.
I remember an online one (I think it was called Pokemon Meteor) that survived for about 2 years before it was DMCA’ed.
Fine, I’ll just make something by myself. It’s fun to make the game for me, not play it. I don’t care at all if it gets taken down, it’ll be fun.
Just to clarify my other statements, it’s not a case of it being a complete waste of time, it’s a case of needing to change your strategy.
Firstly you’d have to scrap almost all ties to Pokemon to avoid being sued.
You’d have to say “it’s inspired by games like Pokemon but we decided to go down a slightly different route”.
Because of that you’d have to alter some of the mechanics to make the game different, which isn’t a bad thing – it means you can add things you always wanted and scrap things you’ve always hated. It does mean that you can’t have any actual Pokemon in the game because you’d be creating an entirely new brand. If you took that approach though, it would have a much better chance of surviving if not flourishing.
The design aspect is another matter entirely. Personally I think you’d be better off creating a new game engine than using RPG Maker’s engine because you’d be able to tailor your own mechanics, which would also help with streamlining and perf tuning. That would add a lot more development time though, it depends how many people you’d have to hand and how skilled they’d be.
Hmm. I like this! 😀 I have quite a few ideas that wouldn’t work in a Pokemon game.
It also means you don’t have to have the same setting (e.g. you could set in in ancient times), you can scrap the gym leader arrangement and come up with something different (e.g. 7 guardians, 16 kings, 9 jarls etc) and it’s easier to touch on maturer/darker themes. Also perhaps permadeath and a more sophisticated physical/special/status system, depending on how hardcore you want to be.
I was thinking permadeath and a darker story. Two things Pokemon games will never do.
I’m not a huge fan of permadeath tbh, I’d rather have a system where they go to ‘the spirit world’ (an inaccessible form of storage) and can only be brought back by using a special item (one that has to be earned rather than bought probably).
Darker story I can run with.
Oh dear god there’s an army of them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0na6QgmlfY
This is the rebellion taking form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLdgM8VQu7I
That’s the GIF I posted above. xD
Everything is better with sound 😛
https://m.imgur.com/BzYtuT9?r
Pleasantly surprised Phoebe is winning.
Everyone’s got Hawaii fever.
(Drake would be winning if I could get the button to work ; n 😉
I’m on my wii u so I can vote for once.
They should just put it on a strawpoll in my opinion.
Who uses internet on Wii U? xD
Better than mobile.
This should be featured.
Wow I couldn’t dissagree more. Wii U browser sucks for me.
It’s garbage compared to an actual computer but I’d use it over mobile anyday. I can listen to music on it and switch tabs. My phone doesn’t allow that.
What kind of phone?
Ironically, the same can be said for the new 3DS.
12 tabs bitches! XD