The Official Pokémon site has just updated with information for Pokémon Sun & Moon. The update contains details on the new Ultra Beasts announced in CoroCoro earlier this week.
New Information
- Official artwork of UB-02 Beauty and UB-02 Absorption released
- Screenshots of the two new Ultra Beasts in action
- UB-02 Absorption will appear in Pokémon Sun, the Ultra Beast’s entire body is covered in muscle and punch using the full power of it’s muscle strength is said to be immeasurable. UB-02 Absortpion also uses it’s “harder than diamond” probiscus to attack
- UB-02 Beauty will appear in Pokémon Moon. The Ultra Beast is said to attract Pokémon regardless of gender, though it is unclear how it does this. UB-02 Beauty is capable of extreme speeds and can move fast enough to avoid lightning strikes
More Pokémon Sun & Moon news will be released on September 20th at the same time as today: 9am EDT, 6am PDT, 10pm JST, 3pm CEST and 2pm BST.
NEW! The Official Pokémon YouTube Channel has just updated with a new trailer showcasing the new Ultra Beasts. They are known as UB-02 Absorption and UB-02 Beauty in English.
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UGH EVERYBODY IS MAKING THEIR VERSION EXCLUSIVE TEAM, SO I CANT STAY BEHIND!
Sun (my main)
Rowlet
Vikavolt
Salandit
Jangmo-o
Alola Ninetales
Rockruff
Moon
Litten
Pikipek
Cutiefly
Morelull
Alola Raichu
Mudsdale
Above teams is what I have in mind for my FIRST playthrough
You managed to make 2 full teams from only 50 Pokemon.
Damn….I’m so picky.
Sun 1:
Litten
Rocruff
Komala
Jangmo-o
Oricorio (Sensu Style)
Crabrawler
Sun 2:
Popplio
Ninetales (Alolan Version)
Oricorio (Baile Style)
Bewear
Lurantis
Palossand
Moon:
Rowlet
Salandit
Mudsdale
Drampa
Raichu (Alolan Version)
Mimikyu
OMG Oricorio! I might swap it in for Pikipek if I dont like the evolutions!
Oricorio is the BEST! I love the Baile Style the best.
Sun:
– Rowlet
– Salandit
– Mimikyu
– Stufful
– Oricorio
– Type: Null
Moon:
– Popplio/Littn (undecided)
– Minior
– Palossand
– Komala
Well. I finally got my mosquito. It’s…. Not what I wanted….
Nobody wanted UB02A.
True. It messes with the scene as well. UB-01 was Lillie, UB-02B was Lusamine and UB-02A is… Not any blonde character that exists.
I must admit, the more I look the less I think UB02B resembles Lusamine, but UB02A is ugly, whether it resembles a human or not.
Rowlet
Komala
Mudsdale
Bruxish
Alolan Marowak
Crabrawler ( will replace with Night Rugarugan if its a rock/fighting)
this is for moon
Loboxter’s mustache>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that exists in the world. I’m using Loboxter if it’s real
Art leaks were proven fake.
yep it was since it was same guy who did one for rockruff
Rowlet
Salandit
Mimikyu
Oricorio
Stufful
Type: Null
Bit out there but, I feel the UB’s might have something to do with Infinity/Pokemon Life Energy.
Though I haven’t come up with an idea as to how or why.
Maybe cause they can’t access it themselves?
And Legendary Pokemon would have the most Powerful Life energy?
Or, Aether brought them here using Infinity Energy, we do know that it can be used to open Portals to other dimensions, The scientists in OR/AS were gonna use that to get rid of the meteor, and it was important to the story of Gen 6, and we still haven’t got a proper pay off for it.
I dunno just an idea that’s not fully formed.
Feel free to expand.
Ancient Sinnoh myths tell that Pokemon and humans used to be the same beings. And these UBs just happen to resemble the new human characters in Sun and Moon? Coincedence or is there something else behind it?
You’re gonna have to explain how that’s connected to Pokemons life energy, which by the way, Humans don’t seem to have
Well if humans used to be Pokemon, they might still have dormant Infinity Energy in them? Idk just saying some stuff now.
Perhaps, I was going more along the lines that the UB’s seem to be interested in something in the Pokemon World, and Life Energy seems to be a running theme now.
This may be how Solgaleo and Lunala eventually tie into the games aswell, if Legendary Pokemon have the strongest Life Energy, and we know it’s not an abandondede concept because it’s what powers Magearna.
Also related, would the normal animals referenced in pokedex entries, also have this dormant life force?
See my idea was that this life force is what seperated Pokemon from other creatures, and why they can be caught, and how they can use moves, and is why the obvious Alien Pokemon, are still Pokemon despite being alien.
What would the UB want with it though?
7…. 7 infinity souls… 6… That’s how many we have now…
There’s that 7 again. ”It all comes together, when 7 becomes 1”
Gen 6 ruined it by giving Eevee an 8th evolution though.
When seven becomes one… The barrier will be broken and ultra beasts will reign over the surface
And volcanoes will rise out of the ocean and the sky will fall into the sea and a plague of locusts will decend and all your milk will turn sour.
As much as I detest the idea, this sounds plausible. Which means you’ve done well because usually when I hate an idea I also disagree with it.
Also relate this to Z Moves. I think there’s definitely a relation.
And a recent 4chan leak saying that UBs ”can only be defeated with special abilities” hmmmm?
No comment there, but I do reckon they will require more than just a normal battle to finish them off.
I really hope they pose a huge threat a draw out Zygarde, that’d give it some purpose in Alola.
Sun/Moon are reconnecting everything and all the things that happened from Gen 1 to Gen 6 seem to be leading up to Gen 7 and it seems like everything is coming into fruition. I wonder how long this has been planned for, this, “It all comes together” thing.
Since gen 4 I think. Thats when the storytelling evolved into something deeper, darker and more mature.
Gen 3 was kind of experimenting with it too I think. It has that whole rayquaza part in emerald that previous games had nothing close too
Did you know that the series was actually supposed to end after the Mewtwo movie?
The anime was. Gen 2 was supposed to be the conclusion to the games.
That’s why the battle against red is such a great ending. It’s like battling yourself, just a version of you that grew up differently.
But then they realized more money could be made? ;P Honestly, who thought 20 years later Pokemon would reach a 2nd peak?
Like Starstorm says, the anime series was supposed to end with the Mewtwo movie, there’s even a seperate ending confirming this.
Some trailers had older misty and her kids too
Yeah thats the one I’m talking about. With an adult Misty and two little girls staring at the sky, but Ash isn’t anywhere in that trailer so people assumed he would have died at the end of the movie.
I think they’ve probably had a broad idea of what they wanted to do since Gen 3.
I think since they started doing the Legendary Trio thing, they’ve had an idea of which direction they wanted to go in.
Each legendary trio has some very deep connections in mythology. It was most apparent during Gen 4 and 5, but it was kickstarted in Gen 3 (maybe as an experiment)
Yeah you’re probably right and since gen 4 with the Creation Trio and Arceus, basically the alchemy theories kicked in as well.
They’re probably making it up as they go along.
You’d be surprised how easy that is when you’ve got lots of time in which to do it.
Sounds like my style of writing; make up the plot points as you go, somehow tie it in with past chapters, revise, edit, and proofread twice, then make it cohesive. Honestly, it also helps that the Pokemon Universe is so large and well established yet vague and they probably have decade old files to go back to.
I’d rather they made more things set in stone. Leaving it vague forever and creating too many loose threads starts to wear things down.
They’re almost certainly making it up as they go though, some people are capable of doing that and pulling it off. Stargate SG1 is a very notable example.
At least Gen 5 I feel, then from there they made it up, but certainly since gen 5, as 6 and 7 seem to have been planned concurrently, and 6 was in development at the same time as 5 too.
Gen 5; Try something completely new
Gen6: Rely on old bits but add a couple of new bits
Gen 7: combine the 2 ideas
I don’t really think that Pokemon got darker story wise, it became competent. Like, BW isn’t exactly dark, but it’s hands down the best story in the series. That’s because it has
1. Fleshed out, consistant characters
2. Has a sensical beginning and end.
3. Has a dang good villain
4. Legendaries play a part in the story other than “oooo mah powah”
5. A theme that can be seen in many aspects of the game.
X and Y failed on nearly all of these
Edited for grammar
X/Y relied too much on nostalgia, but now I think it was probably cause they were making S/M and needed to test a few things first, and lay seeds at the same time, so we dont’ go “Hey wait there hasn’t been a new pokemon game for 5 years”
Legendaries aren’t usually needed for just power though. They are usually sought after to achieve an objective.
Groudon and Kyogre to increase land and see respectively
Dialga and Palkia to destroy the world and create a new one
Reshiram and Zekrom …. I can’t remember
Yveltal and Xerneas to power the great weapon.
The thing with zekrom and resheram is that they tie in with the player and N. They aren’t just maguffins
Yeh I guess. Plus I always liked the designs and concepts.
Zekrom and Reshiram are essentialy electrical and heat energy, and Kyurem is the absence of both, hence Ice Type
Cold is not the absense of electricity.
Superconductors conduct electricity at absolute zero. (And technically it’s ‘thermal’ energy.)
Yeh I was thinking of them both in layman’s terms, as being linked to warmth/heat.
But fair enough … I stand corrected
Fair enough. For future reference there’s no need for laymans terms when dealing to me, I sometimes flick through dictionaries for the hell of it. Besides, if I don’t know a word, there’s another window open alongside with google at the ready 😛
This is why I make sure to do extensive research before theorising, you’d be surprised what you can learn. Superconductors are used for sciency machines like magnetic resonance imaging scanners, mass spectrometers and particle accelerators.
Lol. I know you’re a very technical guy. When I’m writing a comment online though, I don’t bother looking for complete facts if I know the basis of my comment can be understood by most people.
My work requires me to deal with the layman on a daily basis. If I start getting technical I get a lot of blank looks, therefore I have become accustomed to speaking to people as if they’re idiots.
I’ve spent a lot of time on stack overflow/the stack exchange where the opposite is true, they assume everyone to be technically minded and struggle to dumb things down. Plus most of my friends are quite intelligent/technically minded so I’m more used to using technical terms.
Kyurem is that gray area. You can’t change the world with just truth or just ideals. You need a bit of both. Which is why when the original dragon split, Kyurem tragically could only fuse with one side, not both
I feel as though the Truth VS Ideal with N and the player representing each respective trait was hit straight in the head. Such a great way to tie in the Yin and Yang, Buddhist, and Taoist influences. And the end where N realizes they are total opposites and that neither are really “correct” and yet acknowledges his mistakes and does not blame Ghetsis is so powerful… T_T
I love how Ghetsis isn’t blamed. It would be so easy for N to resent his dad, but he doesn’t. ? It’s so good
I told you. XY were rushed so that it all can come together in 2016 😉
I would have to say the story played out more like an epic along the lines of The Epic of Gilgamesh than say, a Shakespearian adaptation. However, the story definitely was dark, complex, and several arcs and sub plots that tied in with the main story added a lift the story needed. Element wise, Black and White employed predictable and easy to follow plot points and the structute was very clichè. However, the themes, dialogue, and emotional impact utilizing a great soundtrack to boot made it feel epic, deep, and fantastical. Even if past games dealt with much darker themes, they were never explored as deeply as they could have been resulting in a bland and anticlimactic ending/climax. However, Team Plasma was EVERYWHERE, the NPCs were affected and their dialouge and discourse made it soo much more believable. Additionally, the first scene where you meet Team Plasma as N hides amongst the people and Ghetsis goes on his preach is one of the best scenes along with N’s Castle’s rise.
XY has a theme, but that’s about it.
Ugh Tynamo has a 2% encounter rate. I don’t like running around the same location for hours, but I really, really want Eelektross lol.
I’d offer to trade you one, but I’d need to dig my game out and it’s too late in the day to go looking for that 😛
Synchro? Oh God, I sure hope we don’t get that awful looking Satoshi Greninja.. at least change it a bit! https://i.imgur.com/DhBalGUl.jpg
I love the idea of synchro .-.
Me too. I don’t get the loathing; it’s not fusion, it’s a level of friendship reached with your Pokemon that results in awakening a hidden power within Pokemon.
Plus awesome tiny design changes
I would have liked it if they’d introduced it instead of mega evolutions, but now we have megas and z moves it seems a bit gimmicky and redundant.
I feel that it ties in with Z moves somehow. Ash-Greninja’s crazy water shuriken seems like one. Maybe certain change form on the use of a Z move?
I suggested that days ago to him, he didn’t like that idea, it’s best to just not, I like the idea though.
We can’t all agree, things would be pretty bland if we did.
I know, you gotta admit concept wise it’s a cool idea, it’s just getting it to work in a way that doesn’t mess things up thats the issue, specially in a game with so much added already
Like I say, I’d be more accepting if mega evolutions and Z moves didn’t already exist. But they do, and like I said, if you have mega evo, z moves and synchro then they’ll just end up adding something else in G8 and soon there will be even more rules and battling will get even more complicated.
Yugioh’s already been down that route. They started with a basic card game with ritual and fusion monsters, then they added synchro monsters and xyz monsters and pendulum monsters, and now most of the original cards are irrelevant and the rule book is 4 times the size it used to be, and people used to struggle with the rules when it first came out.
To be honest I was perfectly happy without mega evolutions and Z moves. New pokemon, moves and abilities were enough for me. I’d rather they’d done synchro or alolan stuff instead of mega evos, but now we’re at a point where they’re risking overcomplicating things. Players are going to end up with 1 mega pokemon, 1 Z move pokemon and 1 synchro pokemon in every team if they’re not careful.
Or, if using Rayquaza the Z move and Mega might be the same Pokemon, also on top of that, Primal, despite being mega basically, doesn’t count as it either, so they’d have Possibly, 1 Mega, 1, Z Move, 1 Primal and 1, I guess we’ll call it synchro, I prefer Z Evolution as a name. So I wouldn’t rule it out, not matter how complicated it would get. But it loooking less likely.
I forgot about rayquaza because I boxed it the day I caught it. I don’t know why they chose to make it mega evolve like that, but I presume they felt they had to do it to make it seem more special. Same with primal forms, to be honest I don’t think they really added anything, the pokemon were impressive enough as it was. The only upshot was that Groudon’s typing was fixed. Their abilities are over powered now though.
Technically they can already have 2 primals and 2 megas if 1 is Rayquza, add a Z move and you’ve only got one normal pokemon left. No wonder official contests have so many extra rules.
Still only 1 Mega, as, while Primals you can have more than 1, even without he stone, Megas there can still only be one, so if you’ve used one, you can’t use the second, even if one is Rayquaza. Why they didn’t abide Primals to that rule I don’t know, considering it’s the same basic thing.
That is just plain weird. Sometimes I have no clue what they’re thinking.
Primal Reversion fits into the whole Azoth thing. I don’t think they added it persé for battle-ends, but more that it fits into the story overall.
I still think the whole Azoth thing is very jumbled. The plot is just bits and pieces rather than a concrete idea.
They never even explain what resetting the world to the beginning truly means.
And then in 3 years they’ll add a new gimmick, and a new one, and a new one, and soon the metagame will look nothing like it did in gen 5 and nobody will know which ability is superior.
Oh good, I’m not the only one who dislikes the idea.
I like the idea of Z-Forms more than Synchro.. specially if they are based on a specific move. But yeah, whatever for diversity in strategy.
Synchro/Bond Phenomenon is basically mega evolution without stones. Its not gonna be a seperate thing in SuMo
Ash Greninja looks awesome, and I don’t like Greninja, though with more and more info, losing hope it will be in.
Still this looks pretty cool, I didn’t link them at all, and I posted saying it might be mega evolution, and the one before where I said it was a combo of both, so I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought along those lines.
Still, seems like an outside chance now. At this point though, anythings possible.
Ah, but there is a catch! It seems this animation might be the one shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaav6J6XzFs, at the very beginning.. for collecting a Z-Stone :T
Good spot, that makes sense now.
Skepticism in action. I like it.
Z moves might actually technically be Synchro
Yay we finally got a video. I’m moderately less dissapointed now, purely because those graphics are beautiful, and because we don’t have to wait long for more. Also Absorption is a much better name than expansion.
“can move fast enough to avoid lightning strikes”. Yeah, good luck Tapu Koko.
lets see if lightning can move as fast as 220,000 miles per hour this is one fast mutherfrucker
Watch: it’s in game speed stat will be like 120 lol.
actually that’s above average
I know, but it wouldn’t be by far the fastest pokemon. Also I wonder if it’ll be immune to electric type attacks.
but what if it isnt catchable
I doubt it will be, but I’m sure we’ll at least battle it. Or maybe not, maybe we just have to help Tapu Koko somehow.
it looks liek the battle we see could easily be a flash back
Nah
Watch them pull an Escavlier
“Flies around at high speeds”
Base speed stat: 20
It also doesn’t look threatening. At all. Absorption looks dangerous, but Beauty does look like it could do any damage.
Are you kidding? Beauty looks way more malicious and threatening than absorption, the big red bug thing looks a little derpy tbh and yeah it has big muscles but like, just looking at beauty you know it wouldn’t think twice about ripping your guts out, its gorgeous but unnerving and probably the most evil looking creature in pokemon
It looks frail. It looks like one attack would snap it in half.
you know that in like every thing ever the main evil and the baddest one around is never because they look big or “swole” as people seem to say, its always the smaller, faster, smarter evil creatures/bosses that are truly the most evil and threatening
That’s true; but they’re never the ones doing the fighting.
thats fair, thats what lackeys are for, but like, back them into a corner and watch out, they usually fight dirty
I know, but now Beauty is actually doing the fighting.
One of the many reasons I hate UB02A.
It’s a punch-drunk muscle-bound meathead. It looks like if you tripped it over with a bit of rope it wouldn’t be able to get back up.
Especially when you take into account that it its SURPRISINGLY short
Dragonite: “It can circle the globe in sixteen hours, traveling roughly 1,556 mph
(2,505 km/h), or about three times the speed of an average airplane.”
UB02B is officially impossible to hit.
Not necessarily though. It’s fast, but that doesn’t mean you can’t predict it’s movements. xD
Predicting an opponent’s moves is useless if you’re too slow to do anything about it.
My boi Tapu Koko can do it, just cheese it
The anime has PLENTY of those examples
Oooooh, I really want this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0744017866
It’s not enough to shell out 123 bucks for IMO, but what I have my eye on is the Alola region poster. I kinda figured GameStop would give that away as a preorder bonus, but they haven’t announced anything yet. Does anyone know about preorder bonuses yet, or is it too early?
i wanted it but it’s too much to blow on something frivolous
they are giving dual sided poster. if you buy BOTH!
Really? I should be covered then, great.
its alola map and this is the other side
http://assets.rpgsite.net/images/images/000/047/739/original/PokeSunMoon_RideArt.jpg
Oh wow, that’s great! Thanks for telling me! 😀
I just realized that the girl is wearing a swim suit!? does that mean we can wear swimsuits in water XD
Oh yeah. I guess so?
I feel like the male trainer will have a wetsuit instead though.
nope he wears just trunks
If I had the money and the room I’d have considered it.
I regret not getting a steelbook for omega ruby, but I wasn’t anticipating using and liking it as much as I did 😛
What if the Ultra Beasts reveal themselves as Legendary Pokemon once you catch them? They might have different names as well and could possibly be Bug-type!
nonononononononononononononononononononononononononononovPLEEEEASSSEno
Come on, pal. Ultra Beasts should still be Pokemon. I’d throw a Master Ball at UB01.
It’d be weird though. We know that it has some connection to Lillie, so it’d kinda feel like catching Lillie.
You all know Mewtwo and Genosect right? Maybe it could be a Pokemon made by mankind at a certain period of time within the franchise.
Wait, people actually use their master balls?
No. I swear to god no. Like, this is something I don’t want GF to mess up. They aren’t pokemon and they shouldn’t be treated as pokemon
facts
You did read that UB01’s name has a deep meaning right?
Ultra Beast One
No, I mean they have not revealed it for UB01 yet.
It is the first ultrabeast. That is its name.
D’oh!!! Just wait until the game releases…
UB01 isn’t its name, it had a load of ???? on the corocoro scans, indicating it has a name but it hasn’t been revealed on purpose.
Thank you! That was what I have been trying to say to her.
ULTRA BEAST ARE NOT POKEMON. THATS WHY THEYRE CALLED ULTRA BEAST. THEY ARE SEPERSTE ENTITIES FROM A DIFFERENT DEMENSION AND ARE IN NO WAY TO BE TREATED LIKE POKEMON AND I CAN NOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THIS. For further proof go to the official website
Look, it just didn’t find it fair of Game Freak to make something that looks catchable evil
It doesnt even look like a pokemon tho
Ya didn’t have to yell at me…
Bug/Fighting and Pure Bug.
*looks at absorption*
“I’m a legendary, don!”
*cancels game order*
Doubtful. We already know we’re getting at least 7 legendaries, so that seems like a bit much.
Hey! Don’t you remember that the leaks from China aren’t 100% accurate?
They are chinese leaks. We have
– Lunaala
– Solgaleo
– Marshadow
– Tapu Koko
– Tapu 2
– Tapu 3
– Tapu 4
I meant aren’t. They aren’t chinese leaks.
Id rather them be malevolent forces from another world that seek to destroy everything good in the alola region and you have to take them down and send them back to their own world, screaming about how much they hate you as they get ripped back into the portal from whence they came.
If the pest theory is true, I hope they’re creative in their origins; I don’t want all but one UB to be a bug.
Weed, Rat, Hobo, Fly.
Pharap. lol
*kills Type: Null*
Another gamestop question: Does anyone know if GameStop is doing a midnight release for the games?
depends on the store. you gotta ask youself
Oh yeah, I forgot. xD Now I feel stupid.
but most likely because pokemon
Yeah, it’s a big release, especially since it’s a new gen.
If I had a Nintendo Network account, in which I do, I’d tell Game Freak to make these Ultra Beasts Pokemon. I don’t think it’s fair not treat them like Pokemon.
They aren’t; that’s a fact. They aren’t in the “Pokemon” section of the website.
Why? Catching them would be dumb. They are from another dimension where people and pokemon are the same thing so it’s a different being. You can’t catch humans, why would you be able to catch Ultra Beasts?
man that was an awesome trailer, but did you know what this means, this mean we’re going to get some more new Pokemon on the 20th, this is going to be ever so exciting, while we wait for the ultimate announcement on the 20th, I’m going to be collecting some Pokemon you know where, so what was we supposed to do while we wait on till the 20th?
If me and sexyscissor could be online at the same time I would be drawing his thing he wants in that time .-.
If I see him do you want me to tell him you were looking for him?
Yeah. Tell him to send me a message on tumblr with the references. http://starstorm295.tumblr.com/
I’ll definitely see it
Alright, I’ll let him know if I see him!
alright, we got six days until the new Pokemon Sun and Moon trailer with hopefully with some more new Pokemon along the way, let’s make this as best as it should be. 😀
Guys! Guys!
Wouldn’t September 20th be the perfect time for a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE reveal?!
Cause y’know
September twentieth?
TWENTIETH ANNIVERSARY?!
Eh? Eh?
Pokemon Sun and Moon . . . Cancelled! Instead, you’re getting a Red and Blue remake!
I’ve lived long enough, someone please hand me an escape rope, I need to escape the pain
I can’t say just yet whether or not I’m sold on UBs. However, I’m certainly intrigued, which is likely their exact intention. I’ll definitely like them if I can catch them though.
I’m stunned by the beautiful graphics. Seriously, there amazing given the 3DS’s limitations.
*they’re
Finally!!! Someone who agrees with me!!! If you have a Nintendo Network ID, tell them on Miiverse that you want them to be Pokemon! Lately Game Freak’s been cheating me out of the tropes and mechanics that I grew up with and loved…well, only for a little bit. If they would at least make Pokemon games with a Dark-type gym, new cross generation evolutions and a new Rubber-type to finally fix that rigged type effectiveness chart, maybe then I’ll forgive them…
Firstly, rubber type? What? Secondly, I’m glad they’re changing up the formula. I liked it, but it honestly was getting stale. Changing it up will allow for a fresh memorable experience, something XY didn’t have.
I dunno… I fear that Sun and Moon would be criticized for the absence of Gyms
only by people who wouldn’t play the game anyways
Oh I’m sure it will by some, but it had already been criticized for being too repetitive. You can’t please everyone.
It has been praised for the lack of gyms. Pokemon doesn’t need them.
TBH it was an outdated system. It was fine years ago when it was used to organize boss battles, but we really don’t need that anymore.
Exactly. The main thing that critics were saying about Sun and Moon upon announcement was that the traditional Pokemon formula was beginning to show its cracks and that a drastic change if two would be welcomed. Ultra beast and the removal of the gym system is exactly the change of coarse that this franchises needed. Gyms will mostly return in a future game and that’s great but for right now this is just what we all need. The adventure will still be just as fun and ultra beast serve as a great common enemy for both humans and Pokemon. This is the first time both species will have to join together to destroy a new greater threat that isn’t a powerful human or a powerful Pokemon. This will be amazing.
Gyms will return in Sun and Moon…but in the Kalos post-game 😉 *Fingers crossed*
The point is it is not without risks. It could delay the development for Gen VIII.
Out of all the drastic changes they’ve made, I’m willing to embrace that one.
Rubber is made from tree sap, so technically a rubber pokemon would be grass type.
Bud, let me level with you. Gamefreak doesn’t care about your feelings. I know that sounds mean, but they dont. It is way too late for them to change anything. They don’t look at your miiverse posts and they wont cater to you.
Second, formulas NEED to change. If not, the series will eventually fade into obscurity. Gyms are a tired concept. They limit the experience. It’s best to accept these changes now.
Yeah, I’m sure they’re done with the game at this point.
Oh yeah, let me tell you how the SNES game EarthBound became a Virtual Console title for the Wii U. I was watching Nintendo Direct one time, when Satoru Iwata was still alive, and he stated that after reading so many remarks on Miiverse about people wanting to play EarthBound so badly (because it was a VC no show on the original Wii), the folks of Nintendo have finally decided to release the game for download on the Wii U. It’s true. You will never know if how the company might react to comments.
I would like a comment from someone else please.
hmm, will it?
Yeah, but that was massive outcry from thousands and thousands of fans. Plus, that was a SNES game. Sun and Moon are already complete and wont change the game for you yelling at them on miiverse
Life will be full of surprises whether you like it or not
No, you don’t understand. The game is DONE. Like, this isn’t a question. Game Freak has already made up their mind months ago and they wont change it. Especially not for you. Why would they? Why would they delay the game to change this just to please you?
They’ve likely had it done for months. The game guide has been finished for months at least.
I will believe it when I see the game get released…now any one else would like to talk to me besides you StarStorm?
*facepalm*
Hehehehehe…My thoughts exactly. You got burned.
You know what? I changed my mind. I love this kid. They’re hilariously clueless. Such innocence shouldn’t be tampered with
That’s you. I go with the words persistence or patience. But I’m glad you like me
this situation is basically someone showing you a picture of a cat saying its a cat and you plugging your ears, covering your eyes, calling it a dog and running out of the room.
That was an overwhelming majority of people though. Again, its too late in the programming process.
The game footage didn’t seem final to me though
You don’t understand how game development works then. The game is out in two months. If they are still doing anything on the game outside of marketing and getting retailers and all of that, it is bug fixing. No more features or changes
I love how children can still dream though, so young, so innocent, lol, then the world hits them like a semi
You can still dream as an adult, you just need to know how to get that dream to be a reality. Miiverse won’t do that
Yeah, I usually just take a shot, or a few
No offense…but I have heard enough from you…I am just a hardcore Pokemon fan that’s all
I am too, we all love pokemon, but hoping for gyms at this point is just going to end in disappointment for you
No it won’t. And you don’t sound convincing. Just saying.
Lol I don’t think you’re serious. I think you’re just doing this for attention. that, or you just really are either stubborn or stupid. Why don’t you google a thing or two about game development before talking about it in public?
Ok. Listen.
You spend 2 years writing a book. Everyone is super stoked and excited. But one person says “This character shouldn’t die” and the entire book centers around that character dying. You are about to release this book. You are getting it published and marketed and all of this. Would you redo your whole book when it is practically finished to please this one person?
Kinda like the world would want to kill ya! lol
I hope I’m not the only one who thought that sounded really condescending.
nah I envy kids, the adult world sucks, take it as you will though, don’t really care
Yeah, and if they make DLC, they wouldn’t change whole mechanics of the game.
LOL miiverse is proabably the last place you’ll ever get noticed, sorry there buddy
Pssssh Miiverse are you kidding me? Who the heck cares what the people on Miiverse say? They’re just a bunch idiots that post random shit all the time hahaha…..Ok that may have been a little harsh, but even still lol Also, like many have said things needed to change. There’s a reason people on the outside say that Pokemon is basically the same game over and over again…..it’s because it really is. Everything they’ve changed in SuMo is for the best and I hope they keep up the good work! lol
It did give birth to the most heart breaking love story of our time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPme2gSE46U
Jesus Christ………what dafuq did I just listen to………? This is what I’m talking about it’s a bunch of idiots lol
I want them to reunite some day and get married
It’s so stupid tho….hahaha
Well, try talking to a lot of people and see if they would still be into Pokemon.
Check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCri1tqIxQ
The minimum viable product is probably a turnbased game with a water, fire, and grass pokemon, 4 moves for each and a type chart. You can boil pokemon down to that. Gyms aren’t needed and as I said, limit the games. Example: Marlon’s gym interrupting the story in B2W2.
That doesn’t make sense but thanks for your opinion.
If something that trivial can turn them away, they’re not a true fan. A true fan will play through the pain and pray they don’t return, or heck, maybe learn to like the content they thought they’d hate.
If I wanted something about that changed, I’d sooner email them than tell them on Miiverse. But I wouldn’t want it changed anyway. I’m always open to change because as of now we don’t even know anything about the UBs. They may turn out to be Pokemon; we just don’t know yet. Despite the fact that I would be greatly disappointed if we can’t catch the UBs, I will appreciate their plot significance regardless.
Be careful what you wish for, they could introduce some very nasty changes.
That’s true, but I also know that if something is hated enough, they’ll be smart enough to not bring it back. If every game was perfect, why would you keep playing?
When have they purposely not brought something back due to it being hated?
There’s no such thing as perfection. If all the games had no features I disliked, I’d but the next one because it would have new likeable features. Even things with nothing to dislike can be improved.
I wasn’t speaking of something specific, but if say, 80% of your consumers dislike an aspect of your product, the most logical option is to get rid of it. Upsetting the majority of your target market won’t bring in the moolah.
But they will never do anything that 80% hate. For a start some people will agree with everything they do without question. Then there’s everyone else who all have differing ideas, but it all evens out.
Well, plot significance might be the problem of the game itself. It might throw the series off the track and it could be 5 years before they make Gen VIII
I’d say it doesn’t matter what the story is in the end. Pokemon is a game that can be summed up as being about a person that goes on a journey and catches Pokemon and battles. It doesn’t really matter if there are gyms or not. As long as it’s in the world of Pokemon anything really goes. And honestly if they continue to make the stories more robust and ever changing that could be great for the series. Then maybe one day they can go back to the gym formula and everyone will be nostalgic about it.
If you want boring, and predictable routine, the real world still exists. Pokemon is for the fantastical. It’s supposed to get crazy.
I wouldn’t call that fantastical…
BTW, UB-02 Beauty isn’t actually a cockroach or silverfish (bug warning. bugs are gross)
http://imgur.com/a/AzW0p
Figured as much.
I never believed the cockroach or sliverfish ideas.
Also this means they’re all based on different species groups (fish, insect, crustacean)
All 3 of them have some sort of transparency factor to them. Interesting.
What do you call an Ultra Beast at a Bakery?
An Ultra Yeast
What do you call a big thanksgiving dinner?
An Ultra Feast
An Ultra Beast at a fast food place?
Ultra Greased
What do you call a bunch of mad birds?
Ultra Geese
Whaddya call an Ultra Beast not going to the left?
Ultra East
What do you call an Ultra Beast that has stopped?
Ultra Cease
Lmfao
Huh, my answer would have been Swanna, cause y’know, they’re kinda trash
Does html work on here?
Trubbish
OH IT WORKED!! I’m going to use this all the time.
Wha?
For italics: (Remove the spaces) Sun and moon (Sun and moon
For bold: (Remove the spaces) Sun and moon (Sun and moon)
Ultra east? I thought you said Ultra Weast.
OMG XD
What do you call it when an Ultra Beast tries to get somewhere to live
Ultra Lease
These puns are so amazingly awful I laughed so hard I had an Ultra Wheeze
I’m glad you like them. It’s good to pass the time while I’m sick and constantly ultra SNEEZING
Beat me to it.
An ultra beast at a church?
Ultra Priest
I thought this was hilarious, wanted to share it with you guys: https://m.imgur.com/a/HkfVW
hahaha that’s funny
Random question for ya’z
If you were a poketuber, what would your mascot be?
Probably Lopunny. Of course the Rule 34 would be crazy, but it is probably my favorite pokemon
Awesome :3
Hey, theres rule 34 of everything these days
I mean, that’s what R34 means after all 😛
I actually think about making a youtube channel often, but idk what kind of videos I would make
XD tru
This is easy: Togeking. Remember shiny noivern? He drew me a picture of a Togepi with a crown, scepter, and mustache to use if I ever started a youtube channel. That’d be my name as well.
I’m new here, but kewl
I have always thought about that for several years. An alternate evolution for Togetic. Dragon/Flying. An ability that at least give it immunity to Fairy-type moves.
Probably a Banette. Shocker, I know.
Damn, I thought it was a Shuppet
XD
I’d go by Raging Rhyperior
a Pokemon Rant column
I can dig it. (pun intended)
I could guess XD
glaceon
Slowpoke
with a bottle of vodka, and unrealistic expectations
Sneasel lol
Would have to go with Umbreon.
Hard to choose, but I would go with Gulpin or Ledyba.
MY BOI GULPIN
Good choices :3
I’d either go Victini or Tapu Koko
Or Pyukumuku
Probably go with Infernape, contrary to what my username is lol. Infernape is favorite Pokemon.
Noice :3
Actually when I think about it, I like Infernape and its evolutions better than Lucario now. You think I should change my username to have one of the Infernape line names in it?
Golden_Monferno sounds amazing.
Holy crap you’re a genius, thank you
You’re the one who said it, really, but I’ll always accept a compliment. :p
Your welcome
Gotta have that underscore.
Lol
I have a few things I gotta have
(that personal space)
Proto Type:Null is Perfect Null Project vs Ultra Beasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCv-4bHjyCY
UB Beauty > Absorption
http://prettylittleliars.com/files/2016/07/635861085716879831-1673670099_SQ-Zayday.gif
Everything > Absorption
trash > absorption
*trubbish is happy*
That joke is to corny, even for me.
I actually like Absorption a lot. Seems more threatening than Beauty. she just looks like a character from James and the giant peach or something hahaha I feel like the battle they show will be more intense in Sun than Moon lol
claymation gives me nightmares
Hahaha not all claymation looks terrifying. Only the ones that show bugs and creepy stuff like that lol
all claymation is terrifying to me, and black and white movies with no sound, doesn’t matter what it is, gives me the creeps, seems so unnatural and makes me feel exposed
You gotta thicken up there then bud lol
I have literally touched a bear with no issue, people are afraid of different things, nothing on this earth scares me more than black and white movies and claymation, I wouldn’t mock your fears that may be strange
Fair enough I didn’t mean to offend you, sorry……….so a bear huh?……..Adult or cub? lol
adult, luckily it didn’t kill me, I was a stupid kid, and my lack of fear of such things got me into a lot of bad situations, oh actually I am afraid of one animal, male lions, but only because of their manes, they move in a way that makes me uncomfortable, if they had no mane though I would be fine
So….you pet a wild bear then……? Sheesh….lol Also I’d have to agree Lions in general are pretty scary…..honestly anything that can kill me is pretty scary lol
oh im fully aware of how strange it sounds, but like, I’m not afraid of it because it could kill me with the lions, but just watching a male lion move and its mane moving just makes me nauseous, female lions though are no biggie, I don’t really understand it myself, maybe its not really fear, but like just an uncomfortable feeling, idk
I think I understand lol
????
I guess not.
Am I the only one who likes Absorption?
I don’t “like” it, but then, I don’t like any UBs. I’m intrigued by them all, but they lack any likable qualities at this point, in my opinion.
I just hate Beauty. It doesn’t look like a battler, it looks like a frail pencil.
It’s fabulous
But it doesnt look like a “threat to Pokemon and humans”. It looks like it could deal damage, but one shot and it’s gone.
is it because its not a hyper masculine beefcake? It really grinds my gears when people think that you have to be big and buff to be a powerhouse, think of Mr. Miyagi from the karate kid, he was a tiny little old man and still kicked the hell out of things, beauty is fast, good luck getting a hit in on it
strength is really not as linear as you think
Hey, I can have an opinion without being stereotyped about my opinions, thanks.
thats fair, never said I was nice lol 😉 don’t take it too personal
Sorry, I mistook what you said. Dx
Maybe it doesn’t fight. It can still be a disruption to both people and Pokemon alike without fighting. It could interfere with technology, screw with the weather, spread disease… the list could go on, really.
Then why is it fighting Tapu Koko?
Touché.
Because, Tapu Koko
It may look that way but we still don’t know what kind of super power these things may have
If Lille the Jelly Fish is catchable, I am without a doubt naming it Lille Pad. Why? Cause i feel likes it
Yes.
Nope…
I’m just waiting for people to stop losing their balls over Sun and actually acknowledge moon….
Cause most people I know are like
HAWLY (Explicit word) A LIOYAWN, THAT’S AMAZING
I love the Ultra beast concept. The designs aren’t half bad either. Of course I don’t judge them as hard as I would a pokemons design because UBs are supposed to be alien-like. My only criticism of UBs so far are that none of the three revealed so far are actually “Beastly”. However I hope more will be revealed and I wonder how many in total there will be.. I would imagine there would be around 8 or so and they would get treated like boss battles in-game. I hope they’re really challenging to kill
You want something that graphic in the franchise?! I don’t think I would approve…
Im gunna ask you a serious question here, are you trolling? or like, is this your actual opinion? Like, are you afraid of change?
no offense just wondering
You said “kill” man.
I think he meant defeat….can’t faint everything am I right? lol
yes he said kill….. and?
Killing isn’t necessarily graphic. You (arguably) killed Blue’s Raticate. Ghetsis attempted to kill you, and if he had succeeded, the method of killing wouldn’t have been graphic because it was just an intense freezing. And Lysandre was literally trying to kill everyone.
Also what the fuck is the difference between kill, destroy, Slay, defeat, KO. Same thing dude.
Diction. They’re all basically synonymous in the video game industry; it’s merely how the player perceives the context of each.
Err, a bit off topic, but wasn’t it already proved by multiple people that Blue’s raticate was a different pokemon then the Ratata he had earlier?
He’s totally trolling. Just ignore him.
I ain’t trolling man…!
Their opinions may not be completely conventional, but that doesn’t equate to trolling. This is a community, and with every community you’ll have people with unpopular opinions. If everyone thought the same way we could hardly keep a conversation going.
There’s a difference between having an unpopular opinion and trolling that unpopular opinion for attention and to rile feathers. But thanks anyway for your input
Don’t we all want attention? I mean, that’s why we’re all commenting instead of staying silent. I understand that difference you brought up, but I simply don’t believe Trusk is trolling. Everything they’ve said is a completely valid opinion, and never have they tried to force that opinion on anyone.
I don’t want attention I just like being an asshole, lol, the rest is just extra, but whats a girl to do, am I right?
I just found myself a good friend on the net. I just love your way of words. Thanks for sticking up for me( :
No problem! I always try to defend people even if I don’t necessarily agree with them. As long as they haven’t been disrespectful, I’ll fight for anyone. 🙂
I agree. I usually do not get involved in fights because it might make situations worse in reality, but its great if everyone the world was like that, and I have an innocent nature.
I’d definitely fight for the misunderstood and unloved. That is why I would play games and watch movies that would otherwise be underrated of even forgotten.
Great way of putting it!
Sorry about that buddy
We need to remember though that Pokemon’s average age of players is slowly shifting.
But with newer players joining in the mix. We would have a lot more curious minds. They would like to know how Pokemon started off. Besides I always found catching Pokemon on your computer and sending them to your game via the Internet was the freshest experience. That’s why I felt bad that you could not do that X and Y the way you could do it on Black and White, even though it took me a while to get use to Gen V.
They would like to know how Pokemon started off? Virtual console RBY
Also, the largest amount of sales for XY was college age. Pokemon needs to real is this. They keep making the games easier in hopes to bring in kids, but maybe instead of catering to a flaky audience, give your largest fanbase what they want. Idk, I don’t run a company, but it seems to me what they were doing wasn’t working, and their answer was SM.
I also hope they’re challenging. For one, I love difficulty in Pokemon, but I also think it’d be dumb if they’re made out to be strong beasts but they’re pushovers.
I’m going to be pretty upset if we can’t catch and train the UBs. Its a waste of time (with designing/coding as well as playing against them in the game) in my opinion. We have had weird alien legendaries before (Deoxys, Giratina) so I’m pretty sure we will be able to catch them and train them.
We dont have to catch everything. I mean, the fact that we are catching animals is already kinda weird
I guess but thats the whole point of the game. Most games are pretty weird if you look at them. Like Persona and Final Fantasy
Yes! Another net friend for me!!!
Thank god! A lifesaver. That is a great way to put it, too. I believe that if that Ultra Beasts weren’t Pokemon that you could train, the concept would be garbage and that would make me not want to get Sun nor Moon!
Convenient isn’t it
I’ll be pretty upset if I can’t catch them, but I might be satisfied if there’s a way to document them. Something similar to the Unown Report from HGSS would suffice for me.
That would be interesting too! If we cant catch them I definitely want all the info we can get on them. And if we cant catch them I want a good reason as to why not just because “theyre aliens” because we have a handful of alien pokemon/ pokemon from space. I don’t feel like that reason fits in with the Pokemon universe very well
Maybe the only way to tame them will be with a special ball that someone will have to invent. Something that works on any living creature… including humans… dun dun DUN
They literally aren’t Pokemon. All of their information imply a that these creatures are deadly. They’re not aliens. Aliens are from other planets. They’re creatures from aside rent dimension and definitely not Pokemon
No it wouldn’t be a waste of coding. They are story elements. They aren’t just regular Pokemon, they’re a crucial part of the story.
If we can catch these things they will be released from my PC for sure. I don’t want them
It’s feel like I’m catching Lillie. :~:
It’d
I don’t think that UB-01 will be Lillie. My hypothesis is that the Aether foundation created UB-01 or found it and it grew attached to Lillie and looks like her. Like Latias in Pokemon Heroes.
It’d still feel weird.
Also they aren’t Pokemon.
Serebii.net put Ultra Beasts as a sub-page for 7th Gen Pokemon. So technically they are
Serebii isn’t exactly official
Serebii is not official. Do you know what is? Official Pokemon Website. And the UBs aren’t in the pokemon subcategory.
Serebii isn’t the official Pokemon site you moron. So technically you’re ignorant
That was RUDE!!!
I know it ain’t exactly official, but it is the best site to get Pokemon related news!
Try the actual official Pokemon site !
I did but it did not say that they weren’t Pokemon. I already saw that they were in a different category.
Serebii doesn’t know anything more about SUMO than we do. He’s just assuming here.
That is still no excuse for such insults.
As expected from ant. Now we’re getting somwhere:-)
Oh my god. I think I just figured out your problem. You scared of them XD
No, I’m scared of spiders and other people. I think Ultra Beasts are awesome
Even if the concept would be a waste? Just asking.
It wouldn’t be a waste. It would make for a good story which is something pokemon needs a bit more of
Black & White had a better story. It made heading to the Pokemon League much more meaningful
its not out yet
Yeah what he says.
….
Im on the blue womans side though
You mean your girlfirend? LOFL XD
http://i.imgur.com/onl6h8Q.gif
what even
nah I dont swing that way srry
It was good for different reasons. You cant repeat a story and expect it to be just as good
must be past your bedtime by now right, are you done fighting the blue woman?
I was just teasing her. C’mon be a sport.
I’d rather be a dance
Dancing is kind of a sport depending on who you ask
everything is a sport if you’re good enough and better than others, but I take the gold in being a b*tch
*sweat drop* *thud*
D’oh! It’s a figure of speech…
ok homer
Oh, right, because I said “d’oh.”
Story elements, schmory elements!
Um, ok? Would you rather have collectables than a good memorable story?
Not to mention, who even uses legendaries? I know UltraBeasts are different, but they would be on a similar level if they were pokemon
Now you get what I’m sayin( :
??? No?
In the main series, yes! Although, I wouldn’t mind a good memorable story in a spin-off series, like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Speaking of Mystery Dungeon
Pyukumuku as a starter perhaps? :3
UBs are not Pokemon bro. I don’t really know how else to explain it. They aren’t humans, they aren’t Pokemon, they aren’t our friends or pets. From what it seems like UBs are creatures from a separate demension and they pose a threat to both human and Pokemon life
you gotta calm down. its literally a video game