Today the Japanese Pokémon Sun & Moon official site updated and added Arcanine to the list of Pokémon featured from past generations, along with highlights such as Zubat and Psyduck. Up until this point, many fans have been going off the idea that these Pokémon would not be getting separate Alolan forms since some of them have already been seen as their past-selves in official trailers or pre-release materials. We’ve already seen many Zubats in Alola that are no different than the ones we’ve been seeing for the last twenty years.
Why is this a problem? Because several leaks which have included confirmed information that was not publicly known have also said that Arcanine will be getting a Water-type Alolan form.
Personally, I’m relishing this little plot twist because it gives us something to puzzle over before we get any official answers. Did the leakers add in fake Alolan forms? Will Alola be home to both regular and region-specific forms for the same Pokémon? Are some Alolan forms only accessible after certain conditions are met or even saved for post-game?
Keep these mysteries coming! Tell us what you think in the comments!!
<3 PJ
I have figured out why certain Pokémon are appearing on the Japanese Sun and Moon website! Now everyone keeps saying that the Pokémon on the website are most likely getting Alola forms which at the time seemed to be a good theory. But it turns out all these Pokémon have something in common! These Pokémon have been featured at least once in a Sun and Moon trailer! The list given seems very strange but all the Pokémon can be seen at least once in the trailer! Fomantis can be seen battling a Psyduck, Zygarde can be seen battling a Dragonite, Rockruff can be seen battling a Arcanine, Zubat can be seen battling along side a Team Skull Member, and finally Morelull can be seen battling a Pinsir. The other two aren’t as easy to spot and are in fact found in the overworld. Spearow can be seen in the Tapu Koko cutscene, and Lapras can be seen in the Pokeride clip. Now there’s one thing that probably isn’t convincing. The Pokémon’s evolutions can also be seen upon clicking on the Pokémon. But how could a Arcanine be in the game without a Growlithe? It simply wouldn’t make any sense to not include the evolution’s. Don’t loose hope! There is a chance both Alola and regular form’s may be found in game. I don’t have a picture but take Meowth for example. The protagonist’s Mother can be seen with a normal Meowth however it is confirmed Alolan Meowth will also be in the game. I’m not a hundred percent sure about this theory but I’m willing to bet Gengar will appear pretty soon on the Japanese website since it has been seen twice in a trailer. Tell me your opinion on this theory and thanks for reading!
I guess the only ones we can rule out for Alola forms are Spearow, Zubat, and Lapras.
I would say that Gengar, Dragonite, and Arcanine are not very good examples of Pokemon when trying argue they wouldn’t get forms. Two of them require special ways of evolving and the other will never ever be found in the wild. NEVER!!! lol I would wager forms or no they are simply place holders in ever meaning of the word. As for Pokemon that I think we can 100% say won’t get forms those are Zubat, Spearow, and Lapras. those are the only Pokemon (at least in the list) that are seen in an actual scene from the games. the other are all more or less simulations created simply to show off the battle screen. I don’t think we should throw out the possibility of Arcanine or any other Pokemon show on that list except for those three getting forms, whether it likely or not.
Ps. Also that normal Mewoth is from Kanto. So it’s a different case all together.
We won’t let Water type Arcanine die on our watch.
Yeah!! Long live water Arcanine!! lol
“and the other will never ever be found in the wild. NEVER!!!”
Umm, what?
But Raichu and Ninetales evolve using stones, so why did they get new Alolan forms?
I was talking about the Pokemon being in the wild.Pokemon that evolve by stone are never seen in the wild. I didn’t mean stone Pokemon couldn’t get Alolan forms as obviously they can and will. Thus seeing a wild Arcanine means nothing as it’s clearly a place holder rather than something actually in game.
I Think you’re pretty much stating the obvious… And the mom has a meow th because the main character isn’t from Alola in the game
Just preordered Sun! I’ll be downloading Moon at release as well! 🙂
Question. If you purchased the digital copy of pokemon games and something happened to your ds, are you still able to download it on another ds as long as it was purchased from your account?
Yep!
Hmm, I didn’t know that. That’s good to know though so thank you!
Okay sweet. That’s a relief.
Wait what………Did Nintendo change the way they handle downloaded content? They’ve always been in the terrible camp of tying downloads to devices rather than accounts. Did this come with the new account system they made?
Yeah. If you have the same NNID on that device you can download it from the eShop
Hmmm interesting. I guess that’s good news then. I always hated the fact that Nintendo basically forced you to buy the title again if you lose or break the console it was originally on.
You could still get it back. It was just a pain and you usually lost your progress. All you had to do was call them, answer some questions to prove yourself to be you, and they’d get your games back within a week.
It was still really dumb if you ask me. Especially considering Microsoft and Sony had been doing account based stuff for a while at that point.
I am More than confused why a Pokemons picture in the site could largely mean it won’t have a transformation to anybody. Why would they highlight a Pokemon from 7 Gens ago just to say oh its nothing. Are people speculating they get megas instead of alternative forms or something? They must be special in some way . . Other than they are just findable in their normal forms. I’m sure Many pokemon of all gens are.
I think what has me scratching my head is IF these Pokemon really are ones that won’t get forms then why even bother posting them? The odds are there will still be more Pokemon without Alolan forms so the number of those Pokemon would be too ridiculous to show on a single page. It would just be easier and more simple to only show those who get forms and call it a day. I don’t think these Pokemon specifically have anything special about them necessarily, but at the same time I can’t believe they would waste space on simply showing only a few Pokemon that don’t get new forms.
Exactly
I just realized that the Trial captains are perfect for my dream pokemon game. Since X and Y I wanted pokemon Zero. A prequel set 3,000 years ago in Kalos. Something similar to trial captains could take the place of trial captains
Since gen 5, I’ve wanted a game where you are in the place of one of the brother with the original dragon.
OMG, that is even cooler
I tried to design what I thought the game would be like, but I couldn’t get past the issue of no female protagonist. I feel like that might cause some problems.
I think if the game is story oriented then it doesn’t matter. It’s the story you want to tell.
Something 3,000 years ago? Pokemon Conquest
since about 5 minutes ago
I wanted a Pokemon game where i didn’t abide to the social norms and give into my dark passengers
D:
don’t look so shocked
D:I
well i’ll stop beating around the bush
I saw Kubo and the Two Strings and i never felt so human in my life…
I love it when you’re human
don’t get used to
As an elemental my passion writhes with unpredictable fury as nature itself beckons on the mortal plane
so you’re basically a rage demon? rf for pic
so help me earthen if you don’t get the reference we cant be friends and I will be sad
More of a trauma scorned warrior constantly shifting alignments
His passion and his fury clashes with the ill conceived visions of his world, barraged and dazed with ceaseless pain and unrest, he sees the world of heaven above and the fiery pits of below with foggy question which will he fight for and who will stand in his way
but did you get the Dragon age reference? if not, 50 points from Hufflepuff for you
I’ve always wondered…
How do you act in real life?
I’m better in the written word
That movie was awesome. 11/10
– Not IGN, Me.
You should listen to How to Be a Human Being
Do we know if ORAS and XY will be compatible with Sun and Moon via Pokemon Bank? If so, then the possibility of Alola Forms for Hoenn and Kalos Pokemon are likely, as the original forms can still be transferred.
i imagine it’ll be bank, I thought they said it when it was first announced but maybe I’m wrong
Yes, Bank compatibility with Sun/Moon is confirmed for Gen 1 and Gen 6! I’m not sure if that speaks to anything in particular though.
Got it, thanks. Just makes me think about the drawing leak which said something about Alolan Lunatone and Solrock. May not be so far off after all.
I saw Sausage Party HOLY F**KING SH*T that messed me up!
Aren’t you like, 15? Why would you watch that?!
???
Does anyone really pay attention to age ratings tbh?
15 year olds probably hear about far worse at school.
No idea I should not have gone.
Hungry?
I don’t think I’d ever wanna eat after watching that. Well…… at least until I get… hungry.
Nope!
Grab a Snickers.
I’m surprised they haven’t announced the next update yet. Let’s hope they don’t miss the expected 1st/2nd of September timeframe, or at least not by too much!
didn’t we see a trailer with a normal arcanine in the wild.. Its kind of weird that theres one in the wild thats not alolan
Those battles in trailers are usually formatted. It literally impossible to meet an Arcanine in then wild. That’s how it’s been for generations.
So, I’ve got a question.
I have 170 bucks for GameStop. Yeah…. So….
I’m getting Pokemon Sun/Moon, Star Wars Battlefront and…. umm…. I don’t know.
So SuMo is $40. Battlefront is now $30. I still have 100 dollars to spend. Any suggestions?
Don’t forget tax! I Hate tax ?
🙁
Oh yeah. Tax.
What console do you play on? Battlefront’s a bit of a disappointment, I played Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens and got a much better experience.
Xbox One
Oh. Yeah. I also wanted Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens. How much is it, because I feel like if I waited for episode 8 and 9 to come out, I could get the whole trilogy for a cheaper price.
Sorry for the late reply. Most retailers around my area are selling it for $60, but I’ve seen it go as low as $40. There’s a ton of exclusive and movie-accurate content, would highly recommend picking it up. A trilogy bundle is inevitable, but whether or not it promises the same exclusive missions will have to be seen.
Wii U: Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros, Twilight Princess HD, Wind Waker HD (now only $20!) Shovel Knight, Super Mario Maker, Splatoon
3DS: Hyrule Warriors Legends, Majora’s Mask 3D, Ocarina of Time 3D, Animal Crossing New Leaf, A Link Between Worlds, Shovel Knight
or, get and eShop card and get some n64/super Nintendo/NES/GB/GBA/DS titles.
ps4: Bloodborne, Batman: Arkham Knight, Dark Souls 2/3, Uncharted Collection, PSN Credits for some PSone classics, or fun indie games.
I own a 3ds and an Xbox One btw. Also, I have Shovel Knight on Xbox.
No water type Arcanine? Dissapointment. Tbh, I think it would be pretty cool if we can get both water type and the ordinary fire type Arcanine from the past game trough trading.
I’m thinking that maybe both Growlithes and Arcanines will be available in Alola. Maybe you can catch an Alolan Growlithe near the ocean (this would be the most common form found in Alola), and regular Growlithe near the volcano. But it can also be just like Paul-Senpai said and the leakers could have lied about the leaked Alolan forms on purpose.
Here’s something I’ve found from Nintendo France. Although you may have heard of this, I thought you might be interested.
http://heavy.com/games/2016/08/pokemon-sun-moon-nintendo-corocoro-new-leaks-starter-evolutions/
oh wow, so we r getting the evo’s of them this month. Well, exciting. Than we know pretty much if the final evo’s are really real!
I thought because of Mallow, it has already been proven. All we just need is their names and their typing.
It’ll probably be their mid evolutions anyway.
Or if lucky with all the pics we’re leaking, the final evolutions as well.
Nothings is confirmed yet
Wait until September, or for CoroCoro then
I hate French Pokemon names so much. Why, France? Pourquoi? u_u
well…
It ‘IS’ France you know?
Italy uses the same names as the US. I live in France but I can’t stand the names uh
Guess who got World of Warcraft:Legion
Dis Bastard!
As soon as I get out of work I shall become Delvaros Dusksunder: a Demon Hunter bent on destroying the Legion to avenge his mother who has been corrupted by the Fel
I don’t care if we don’t get alolan arcanine. Alolan forms are supposed to all about the type switch up and arcanine becoming a water type just never sat well with me. I wouldn’t mind it becoming ice or dark or maybe ground? But for a large dog to grow fins and gills? Just no
Are people forgetting that there was a normal meowth in the first game play trailer we got? Just because the norms have been listed means nothing. For all we know all the pokemon on the site may get alola forms.
The difference between the Meowth we saw in the first gameplay trailer and the Alolan Meowth is: They come from different regions, because the normal Meowth from the first trailer was not from Alola, but is the pokemon of the protagonist’s mother. And we pretty much know, that the protagonist’s family moved to Alola from another region.
And the original leak that said, that there will be an Alolan Arcanine with a water-type, also said, that it would be impossible to get the normal form of a Pokemon that has an Alola-form, without trading it from another game. And that simply contradicts the fact that normal Arcanine can be found in Alola.
Personally, I’m relieved. Arcanine has been so shafted over the years, and he’s my favorite Pokemon of all time. He’s still classified as a Legendary in official Pokedex, and I’m sad he never achieved such a title. Rather than giving him some weird water form, I’d really love to see him get a Mega Evolution, perhaps even one that’s hard to obtain. That could be how he finally reaches legendary status. I dunno. I like Arcanine just as he is. He’s always been my adoptive Pokemon partner since I first started playing all those years ago.
One person on Deviantart has just told me of what the starters are actually based on, and it’s not the Circus as many would well imagine…
”You also do realise on how the final evolutions have a theme: Fairy Tales.
Like how the final evos for the Unova starters are based on feudal/historical Japan (Serperior is a emperor, Emboar is a sumo wrestler and Samurott is a samurai) and Kalos starters’ evolutions being based on popular rpg classes (Chesnaught is a knight, Delphox is a mage and Greninja is a thief), the Alola starters could have such a theme a theme as well.
Robinroot would be the hero because of how it’s based on Robin Hood, Beltigre (I prefer that name) would be the villain because of the plausible Fire/Dark typing and it’s based on a gangster + wrestler, and Entermaid/Sirene(I think it should be Selrine because Selkie + Sirene) would be the damsel in distress because of the feminine design.
Another set of themes would be how instead of typical Fairy tale character archetypes, they are based on stories.
Rowlet sounds similar to JK Rowling, and it’s an owl. JK Rowling’s book series Harry Potter have owls, in fact, Harry Potter has an owl. When it evolves, it will probably have a Lord Of The Rings flair, probably having a hood and equiped with arrows. And like the leak, it’s final evolution is Robinroot, which is based on Robin Hood.
(Not complete/I’ll do more of an analyzation if I can with this same comment on journal)”
If Gamefreak reveals new forms of Unown for Pokemon Sun and Moon, I would be exhausted for Unowns 0-9.
The next update on Pokemon Sun and Moon will reveal more new Pokemon, plus more Alolan forms, plus a few new Mega Evolutions, plus Mega Greninja (Ash-Greninja), plus Alolan forms of Growlithe and Arcanine, plus new evolutions and pre-evolutions of available Pokemon of previous generations, plus the Alola Guardian of Akala Island, plus evolutions of starter Pokemon, plus Marshadow and Gigareki.
I’m afraid those what you have heard are proven to be fake.
The next update (CoroCoro in September) will reveal the mid evolution for the starters and Rockruff’s evolution.