Reports have come in of Twitter users being blocked by Ken Sugimori, the art director of the Pokémon franchise, for inquiring about or sending pictures of the previously covered starter evolutions. Although there is absolutely no confirmation that these starter evolutions have any legitimacy, it is interesting that he’d go so far as to block people if they were fake or fan creations. I’d also like to take a moment to ask you not to tweet at him because doing so is going to have no positive outcome for you or our community.
What do you think? Is this another clue pointing that they’re legit? Thanks for the tip Zeroken! Remember you can contact us any time if you see news!
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wow. idk what to say to this…i think i lost all hope of using Litten. Popplio or Rowlet will be my starter
just curious what types did people says these were?
Well I personally do not believe in the Chinese leaker but if I had to guess Grass/Flying Fire/Fighting and Water/Psychic
uhhhhh they said fighting for it?? no way would they do that AGAIN
They didn’t say the typings
some leaker said that monday the middle evo will be revealed with typings grass flying, fire dark and pure water
I only can imagine the popplio evo being real if there is another male version of the final one…. IDK, just don’t see it, don’t get it if this is the real evo of popplio.
I do agree though.. Litten’s is the worst
lol remember that there are a ton of pokemon that dont make sense with gender, mr. mime, mime. jr, Delphox had a feminine design i believe, etc.
Yeah, those aren’t starters. Starters are mostly gender neutral, or at least they try them to be. Yeah I agree with Delphox, but even she ‘s a lot more butch xD
lol, remember when there was that male and female delphox fake pics and rumors?
No? Guess I missed that one haha. I do know that I was very dissapointed with the evo’s of fennekin though
Ahh, I saw this. The people asking him were being pretty aggressive about the leaks. The blocks were justified, and probably don’t prove anything that they’re real. (although i do think they’re real lol)
I hope not!
If they’re real could there be a full reverse type matchup?
Grass/Flying, Fire/Fighting, Water/Ice would be an interesting combo:
Grass < Fire < Water Fight > Ice > Flying
If the was a full reverse matchup, Rowlet’s evolution could have a very hard time again the other two. Both of them will have access moves that are either 2x or 4x effective.
The Tiger is obviously Fire/Dark .
Am I the only one, who’s more upset that we would have already known about the final evolutions if this is real.
Well if these are real, then personally I think they’ll be called Poppliren for Popplio’s one, Archowl for Rowlet’s one and Tigrember for Litten’s.
Noooooooo. . . . I Hope Not! ?
Let’s hope not. It would be the 3rd gen in a row that the starters are hideous. And these in particular are probably the worst, especially the water one, that is inadmissible as a starter.
If anyone annoyed me with the same questions and stuff i would block them, doesnt mean im trying to hide or deny anything. I think these people are imature, cant they wait for the reveal in its own time. The waiting isnt so bad. I get very excited when they reveal something unannounced.
i agree, i dont think people should be constantly concluding these are real thru constant posting of them. but you can’t stop hype and you can’t stop excitement, but i agree, just wait. dont shove these “leaks” in the guy’s face.
Poor guy, probs stay away from social media for the time being.
Not an easy thing to do
I agree we’ve only got 3 months till release anyways not that long. That’s Pokemon fans for ya lol.
At this point, I’d actually be disappointed if these were fake. Especially Rowlet and Popplio’s final evos. They’re pretty good imho (Well, most of them are). An archer owl? COOL. A siren/seal hybrid with a dynamic hairstyle? ELEGANT. That Litten evo can go straight to the shitter tho.
Me too, litten’s final evo is my personal favorite, rowlet’s final evo is creative and popplio’s evo is a lot more interesting than a simple clown seal.
Please be fake.
Siren Popplio is stupid.
Bipedal Litten is the worst idea Ever.
Rowlett is odd
I actually like Litten’s the most. I don’t even care about the whole Fire/Fighting thing. It could be better, but it’s the best in my opinion.
i only like Rowlet’s evo tbh~
It’s worth mentioning that Sugimori is a very anti-social guy and that he gets annoyed very easily.
That makes both of us
Sometimes people forget that although he’s quite famous he’s still a human being that gets annoyed by the same stuff as all the rest of us.
If real, the typing are OBVIOUSLY Grass/Flying and Water/Fairy for Rowlett and Popplio (where the hell are people getting Psychic and Ice from?!).
Now Litten is a little more debatable…could be either Fighting or Dark. After all, he’s based on Tiger Mask, a wrestler who uses sneaky, dishonourable and underhand fighting techniques…
I’m happy, I actually like these. Can’t decide which is my fave between Rowlet and Popplio. The only one I’m not feeling very much is Litten evo, dislike it’s bipedal. Which is shame cuz I really like Litten, probably cuz I really like cats ??
Hopefully they aren’t or else my starter will go directly to the computer 🙂
I hate that this further proves these are real! Ughh stop with the themes! Why an archer? Why a wrestler? I guess Popplio’s is fine even if it does look like it went through a sexchange because Popplio doesnt look feminine at all.
Maybe in time I’ll like these but rn they are not being “simplistic” designs they said they would do. What ever happened to making the finals look like just badass bigger versions of the starters? Gens 1-3/1-4 did it right
Well who’s to say our take is what they should be
When people speculate on Pokemon half the time people want them to turn into, but Gamefreak designs them on how THEY turn out (Except Samurott that is the only clear exception)
And to be fair Rowlet could’ve been heading toward this from the very start with the Row maybe from Arrow or Bow and the use of quils and everyone freaking knows all Fire Type starters are bipedal they’ve been ending up that way for 20 years
The only thing making me cling to hope that these aren’t real is those debunked images from the Japanese Sites, otherwise I sense the Pokemon Aura from these guys loud and clear
Look Im not arguing whether or not these are fake. You could be right with the Row-arrow thing. Im just saying I dont like themed pokemon. These are supposed to be monster versions of animals. Why would they imitate human titles like witch, ninja, archer, wrestler??
Well because sometimes people want a theme
A big monstery owl, some run of the mill tiger and a smelly fish women
I happen to greatly enjoy the Archer design and I’m quite honestly in love with the Wrestling Tiger
But my crusty blackened heart is crushed at the thought Popplio could be that thing after all the time I spent liking it
The question is whether they were were simply blocked for showing him the leaked pics or whether the blocks are from them harassing him about them. It’s possible they could have sent him the pics enough times that he just got annoyed and decided enough was enough. If that’s the case then this whole thing means nothing and the leaks are still up in the air. If it’s the former then we could be seeing our first real confirmation that they ARE in fact the real evolutions. Which I have no problems with lol
I know this is real since it 1st leak on 5 jun 2016 . This is just 25 days after Rowlet,Litten,Popplio official reveal on 5 may 2016 . There is no way Fake artist can design this in just 25 days with this high quality design . Even Gamefreak designer use 3-4 month to design 1 starter Pokemon . You will never see a fan-art with this perfect design .This design is really great and better than Charizard,Samurott,Greninja,Delphox .
Says the guy with Gallantoad as his avatar
Mid evos would confirm or deny them.
Maybe……maybe not. Dewott and Samurott are pretty different lol
That was like a slap in the face tbh
Sorry hahaha Didn’t mean it that way!!! lol
Nah Samurott was still my fav in that gen. I never looked at any leaks that time so seeing samurott for the first time in my game was nice and I didnt mind
Samurott was such a disappointment to me :/
While I do like Dewott more, I like Samurott just fine. I think that it’s just different from what everyone was expecting and that didn’t go over well with fans.
I agree like Dewott more too. Samurott really through me off with the design. Still hasn’t grown on me either.
Pignite and servine would tho.
Honestly as long as one or two are strikingly similar, I think we could be fairly sure that they’re legit
I really don’t understand all the hate for them. They look more unique then the disaster starters that came from gen 5 and look better then chesnaught and Delphox. They said Litten’s final would be Fire/Dark which is fine as long as it’s not another Fire/Fighting type. People complain that they never change it up in Pokemon then complain when they do. They’re unique and interesting ideas
Well I can’t say I agree completely with you about the other starters I DO agree with you that these designs are pretty good. All three are unique and regardless of “simplicity” or “complexity” the designs are solid. I think my only fear is Litten’s evo becoming part fighting type. I’d love it if it was dark…..or really anything else, but the pics don’t tell us so it’s up to what we DO see and it’s pretty telling……*sigh* I really hope it’s not another fighting type…..It’s not a bad typing, it’s just boring lol
That would honestly be my only problem with Litten’s final. We really don’t need another fighting type starter
Disagree I love it, it’s a powerful type
You mean fire/dark?
Litten’s final evolution is not even that bad. I think its because it looks like the typical fire/fighting that’s the issue people have with it.
True and most people don’t like the bipedal part of it but every single fire starter has been bipedal since the beginning. Typhlosion could be either but that’s pushing it
True. But it would be nice to have a fire starter on all fours for once.
Please. I don’t get how a skinny small cat becomes a huge wrestler.
Lots of training, protein, and ambition.
I need to know its diet and workout pls. Beefy guys are the best ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Remoraid becomes a octopus
High level of mercury in the ocean maybe
Lol. I would probably block people that kept spamming the same picture over and over again as well.
To be honest, I’d be glad if these were real. They’re certainly a lot better in my opinion than the horrible evolutions of the last 2 generations. None of them are bland like Delphox. None of them drastically get a new weird theme ( tongue scarf) like Greninja or Samurrot. There’s clear progression and coherence between the first and the last stage. Yes it’s annoying that for some reason all fire types look the same, but maybe it’s just like the Chinese Calendar thing rule for fire starters… If it was on four legs everything would be okay ! Do the POKEMON company know the fans really want a quadruped fire starter? Maybe for next time we send them a million emails…
At this point there are so many hints to them being real, I think they likely are. Which I wouldn’t mind, the Rowlet one looks great.
My question is why they would even be available for someone to leak this early. This was right before E4 if I recall, and they look similar to noivern’s art which was revealed there if I’m correct. These weren’t revealed there however.
E3 lol
Lol woops. Hit the wrong number. Fat fingers lol jk
I am only a fan of Rowlet’s supposed final evolved form, but I wouldn’t mind if it were fake. I can’t stand Litten’s supposed final evolved form because I definitely want it to be a blazing quadrupedal BEAST and not our 4TH Fire/Fghting-type starter Pokémon. Popplio’s supposed final evolved form looks elegant, but is even more feminine than Meganium! At least Meganium can somewhat pass as male, but that thing? Unless there is a huge male difference, it’s a PokéTrap.
I’m also bothered that if these designs do turn out to be real, they were leaked waaay too early.
Just know, if these really are the legit final evolved forms for our starters this generation, we’ve got ForeskinBird, FireCrotchWeinerFingers, and TransMermaid. Let that settle in…
LMAO it does look like forskin! xD
We don’t know that it’s fire/fighting, the leak suggests it’s fire/dark. Unrelated, but how does meganium look feminine? You really seem to like bolded text
Refresh. The bold was accidental.
Meganium definitely has had a feminine design since it was a Chikorita.
Still not seeing it, but whatever
If you can’t see that this Pokémon has a feminine design, than I don’t know what to tell you other than… it does. It looks more male than female, design-wise.
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/8/87/Nurse_Joy_Meganium.png/revision/latest?cb=20151104083706
Notice how the beauty of it is in its simplicity. It’s just two things smashed together (a flower and a dinosaur). There’s no weird inspiration or reference. There aren’t multiple animals used in the design. There’s no complex back story. Simple, cute, cool. Everything a final starter Eco should be.
These “leaked” starter evos, not so much
How does Meganium NOT look feminine is a bigger question?? Especially compare to all the other final evos in its generation and before it.
Alright all Umbreon need to fucking die, some asshole just stalled and somehow killed 4 of my team just by poison ITS SO INFURIATING
http://66.media.tumblr.com/051e58513aa71dc16dd4c08e90889568/tumblr_n00yu32sev1sk5znwo1_1280.png
Fucking cheap little shit, just sits around and somehow manages to win no problem
Umbreon ain’t no joke. I used to use curse Umbreon shit is deadly.