One of the smaller bits of news to come from the Pokémon Sun & Moon presentation at E3 was that Popplio could learn Disarming Voice, a Fairy-type move introduced in Generation VI. It is not a very common move for Pokémon to learn and those that do naturally through leveling up are primarily all Fairy-type Pokémon.
What does this mean for Popplio? Nothing, conclusively. Still though, it is very interesting and is very reminiscent of the final starter evolution art we saw earlier.
Just thought this would be a great start to an ongoing discussion 🙂 Edit: Don’t worry everyone, I do agree that sea lions make plenty of noise, so it could be related to that. Let’s remember though, there are a lot of sound-based moves to choose from in Pokémon, most of which are Normal, so it is an interesting choice nonetheless!
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I’m leaning toward the leaks being real. They are just so good. It would take someone in the community a lot of time to do these sheets and research to know that fire dancers are a big part of Hawaiin culture hence the appearance of Litten’s final evolution. Rowlet’s final evolution is also based on an archer and an Aumakua, a Hawaiin Spirit Animal diety that can take the form of an owl. And as for Popplio’s final evolution, I guess GF wanted to go out with a part mermaid/sea lion combo.
I wouldn’t mind them, I just don’t want Litten to be part Fighting, but having a belt and with wrestler moves makes me super doubtful it’ll be anything but part Fighting
Popplio’s final evolution in this leak looks awesome, Rowlet’s is okay, kinda a love/hate relationship, nothing in the design imo really makes it exciting for me. Just looks like Hawlucha but with an archer like design. And as for Litten’s, I HATE IT! I just wish for once they would make a final Fire-type evolution that doesn’t have to stand on two legs, we can get one that is four legged. That is assuming these leaks are real and I think that they have a good chance of being real.
Yeah, I totally understand.
I love Rowlet’s and Popplio’s, but Litten’s just turns me off a little because I really wanted our supposed tiger starter to be on all fours.
If it were true, I dunno if I really want to name Molly, my cat, after it, but who knows?
I know what you mean. Let us hope they are just extremely well thought out fakes. It’s sad to think that someone in our community would go to this much trouble if the leaks turn to be fake. But something tells me they are real. All the leaks for supposed Starter Evolutions for this Generation we’ve had in the past have never been this detailed and can easily be given away by a lot of little things. No one has or wants to use up their time making such an elaborate thing like this, which leads me to be on the side of Team Real for this one.
I’m still on Team Neutral because there’s always a chance it can’t be real. I won’t say it’s real or not until GF confirms it (which might be a while)
im keeping hope alive for fire/dark with fighting type attacks
Same, like, maybe it is its signature move, but it just happens to be Fighting type. One of Greninja’s signature moves is Mat Block, and it’s a fighting type.
…Then again, it’s a status move, but whatever.
I’ll just keep the hope
yes keep hope alive with me
Is it true that there is gonna be a Q&A about the game and another trailer or is it just fans with there rumors.
For Sun and Moon? I dunno
For GO? There is a Q&A today, I dunno about a trailer.
Supposedly, tomorrow is supposed to be a Pokemon special, but we haven’t heard anything about it, so I dunno if it will happen or not
There is nothing Pokemon related except Pokemon GO.
No. That’s for Pokemon GO. Which will be happening at 1pm EST today.
Well if everyone now thinks the “leaks” are “real”, then that leaves me as the only person that will be able to rub it in everyone faces when they are confirmed fake at nov 18…sorry if this offends anyone but i just dont see the realness in them specially litten…also tiger3, owl3 and seal3 so yeah…but if they are real then i will accept it and leave it in the pc box
Nah, I still dunno if it makes it real or not.
Still on Team Neutral 🙂
I can’t speak for everyone here obviously, but I think many of us are in a position where we don’t necessarily think they’re “real”, but we’d certainly like them to be. At this stage in the game all we’ve got is hope. 😉
I doubt it. We have been trolled like this before (fennekin with power up punch), so it could easily just be a move for the prevo. Though I do want the leaks to be real. I don’t like Litten’s evo, but there is always one I don’t really like.
Oh god. I remember that whole fiasco.
I remember years ago, someone told me Fennekin would become a Fire/Fighting type, impossible, I said, impossible!
I remember all that too, it was not a fun time D:
I swear the people on Youtube would actually riot and burn GameFreak down if it happened.
Yeah, it just wasn’t fun for anyone involved.
Actually, Power-up-Punch is a TM that all of the starters can learn in Gen 6.
So my team for Sun/Moon so far: Rowlet/Popplio if it becomes a Fairy-type, Pikipek since I always use the regional bird, and Nekkoala because it is so darn cute. I plan on having the regional Dragon-type, a Psychic-type, and a Wild Card since I usually just go with the flow and capture whatever Pokemon I think is cool/cute/evolution looks awesome and then finalize my team before the League.
I haven’t found any Pokemon besides Rowlet that really clicked in my mind with me yet. They are all good designs, but I haven’t found any that I just love yet. :/
Aside from Rowlet, only Pikipek has clicked with me. I love the simple Pokemon designs though: cute yet not overbearing.
Well, all of the non starter Pokemon besides legends have been first stage Pokemon. I want to know what it turns out to be before I commit it to my team.
I for one think it’s almost impossible for popplio to turn into that “leak”. It’s beyond feminine and drag queenish for a starter; not appropriate at all.
Hunty, there’s been more inappropriate things in Pokemon than just designs and nobody bats an eye. Then a mainstream Pokemon starter has the possibility of becoming a stereotype breaker and everyone goes nuts. I’m not saying it’s going to happen 100%, but all I’m saying is everyone needs to keep an open mind. Generation 7 will change a lot of things people may like or dislike and it is okay to voice your open, but at the same time everyone needs to try and be open to change and fresh, new ideas. 😀
welp, thats not offensive for you to say at all -_- *rolls eyes*
Well, appropriateness is merely a matter of personal opinion and it depends on how you’re looking at the situation. A feminine starter when one has never been done before? I don’t think that’s inappropriate; I think GF is just trying to reach out to its growing female audience. And you must also consider the the region we’re in- a mermaid Pokemon would fit in swimmingly (pun intended) here, making it all the more appropriate.
Braixen and Delphox are girly though…
That’s true! I forgot about them!
Even though I picked Fennekin… Oops.
Braixen and Delphox are another great example of feminine starters. Once again while they still maintain female traits, they don’t beat us over the head with it the way it’s down with the rumored leaked poplio evolution. I definitely think it’s fake
We girls play Pokemon too, and some of us, like those feminine Pokemon.
The entire chikorita line is feminine without over doing. The rumored leaked mermaid sea lion is hands down to effeminate to have cross over appeal between both genders.
Maybe popplio will end up as water/psychic. I think it’s more likely than fairy.
I’m not the biggest fan of Popplio (I don’t hate it, but I do prefer Litten), but if it evolved into that majestic mermaid I’d choose it in a second. I don’t care if it’s not “masculine” like all the other starters.
I agree with you. This mermaid concept is cooler than just a sea lion.
Right. We’ve had sea lions before, but mermaids haven’t been done yet (that I can remember, anyway).
same, but I actually like more elegant pokemon most times over masculine ones so maybe my opinion is a little biased XD
Wouldn’t mind at all either, very much like the concept.
I have some nickpicks about the design, but overall I like it :3
It’s the Litten evo I’m concerned about xD
I drew Popplio!!
…and Crash Bandicoot <3
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does anyone know where/when the nintendo treehouse will start today? it says 10amPT but when I tried converting that to my time it gave me 1PM and its already past that so I’m confused XP
Litten will be fire/posion and Rowlett idk
I dont think the starters evolve this gen 😮
This is kinda offtopic
But i feel like the player being behind the pokemon kinda gives more “proof” of the new synchro evolution. synchro evolution has to do with a super deep bond with pokemon and trainer and probably even deeper than one needed for mega evolution. What better way to have this bond than to literally be side by side when battling. Idk but thats just me.
I dont want synchro evolution to happen personally because its just so lame adding all these ways to evolve in battle. We have: Evolving with item/ Evolving no item/ Evolving as soon as sent out with item. So what could synchro be? Maybe evolving as soon as sent out without item. Idk either way i dont like it. It just makes it way more complicated but i just know either way new inbattle evolution is coming or a shift in the mega evolution mechanic.
You should just synchro with cascoon
I think rowlet will remain a grass/flying, which is not so good since the amount of weaknesses is overwhelming. Hopefully its defenses will be good enough for it to take the beating lol.
There’s a new article for the Treehouse at E3 for Pokemon GO :3
LETS ALL GO THERE
Already there, I have both open cause the transition from old article to new takes a bit
Popplios evo actually looks nice,but what does that mean about litten….my poor kitty -…-
I don’t think so. It’s a Sea Lion, Sea Lions aren’t cute or majestic.
Hi guys ! I’m a discret daily reader of PJ and i’d like to share with you some thoughts about the Disarming Voice-case ! If you put aside the typing of the move and start to look closely to the translation of the name you’ll find something interesting : the japanese name is actually “Charm Voice” and this idea of “hypnotizing the foe” is clear inspired by mermaids. The french name of Disarming Voice (“Voix Enjôleuse”) kinda correlate with this idea of “robbing the heart of the enemy” just like in the Odyssey !
We still can’t say if it’s validate the leaked evos as real, but it’s seems like a pretty good hint to me. 🙂
Still not sold on that artwork. I do think it’s possible that Popplio could end up Water/Fairy, though.
Having Disarming Voice means literally nothing. Chespin learned rollout at level 8 in XY, not because it matched hos end typing, but because it fits his overall theme. The same is applied to Popplio. As much as I want Popplio to end up being Water/Fairy, going off of nothing but the type of the move is REALLY stretching.
Why does everyone think he should be Water/Fairy or Water/Fighting why can’t he either be like the other seal Pokemon Water/Ice or as all my favorite water starters plain Water type! I just don’t like the design of the mermaid really.
/Fairy & /Fighting brings more to the table than pure Water(1STAB) & shitty /Ice.
and why not try an interesting typing like Water/Ground!
We already have a lotta water/ground (like 5 evo lines – mudkip, shellos, barboach, palpitoad, quagsire). It’s interesting, but a bit more overused than even water/fighting or the hated fire/fighting.
Swampert already exist..
Hey, guys! I have a better idea! Why don’t we simply WAIT UNTIL MORE INFORMATION IS REVEALED INSTEAD OF MAKING BASELESS SPECULATION!!!
It learns a Fairy-type move, and we have “concept art” that looks very familiar in style as the ones for a previous generation. I wouldn’t say it’s baseless speculation. Could be completely wrong of course, but it’s not baseless at all.
The ‘evidence’ that exists is based on overanalyzing a move that it learns (which means nothing) and a picture that hasn’t been confirmed real (which means even less).
So yeah, still baseless. At least in terms of evidence that means anything.
Like I said, I’m a guy and if this is real, I am definitely choosing Popplio. I’m gonna name it “Cure Mermaid”. ♥
I think it’ll be a Water/Fairy type.
Take a look at Chesnaught, Delphox and Greninja. Let’s say that Litten’s final form is Fire/Dark.
If so, both Litten and Growlet will have the advantage over their sixth gen counterparts. (Dark over Psychic and Flying over Fighting)
Greninja is a Water/Dark type, and which type has the advantage over Dark? Only two, Fighting and Fairy.
I don’t think that Pokemon looks like a Fighting type; and it actually looks like a Fairy type (also, we have the fairytale “Little Marmade and Popplio’s last form kinda looks like a marmade)
That’s my theory, i can’t wait until Sun/Moon comes out to choose this little guy