One of the smaller bits of news to come from the Pokémon Sun & Moon presentation at E3 was that Popplio could learn Disarming Voice, a Fairy-type move introduced in Generation VI. It is not a very common move for Pokémon to learn and those that do naturally through leveling up are primarily all Fairy-type Pokémon.
What does this mean for Popplio? Nothing, conclusively. Still though, it is very interesting and is very reminiscent of the final starter evolution art we saw earlier.
Just thought this would be a great start to an ongoing discussion 🙂 Edit: Don’t worry everyone, I do agree that sea lions make plenty of noise, so it could be related to that. Let’s remember though, there are a lot of sound-based moves to choose from in Pokémon, most of which are Normal, so it is an interesting choice nonetheless!
<3 PJ
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Idk about fairy type but it’s a sea lion and sea lions bark with a disarming voice
OR OR OR OR :/
well, there’s Uproar, Echoed Voice, Hyper Voice. but they chose Disarming Voice. what gives. hmmmm ?
Because Echoed Voice is more of a true sound wave attack and the rest are too strong for a beginner
I still think because of the Horn shaped nose
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Sea lions use their voice to warn mostly. So disarming is the most appropriate
Thank you
if they wanted Popplio to just warn or make noise, why not give him Growl or Screech then? ?
Because sea lions do neither. They bark loudly
It already has growl
AND EVERYBODY knows all starters have either
Tackle, Scratch Pound
Growl, Tail Whip and or Leer
It’s Pokemon fundamentals 101
i didn’t know that
I know you don’t
of course, you always know everything
Yep, I spent countless hours learning, researching and studying nearly every dex entry, move list and statistic of all Pokemon to the point that everything could be explained
yea i feel so honored to read your replies
oh you spent countless hours learning, researching and studying nearly ever dex entry, move list and statistics, yet you did not know THAT WHISMUR LEARNS UPROAR IN RUBY, SAPPHIRE, EMERALD, X AND Y IN LEVEL 5
What does this have to do with anything? Whismur is a pokemon based off of sounds. Uproar fits
I know, i just read in some comments below that Uproar is an extremely op move for a low level pokemon, and growlet brings up Whismur and then this earthenwarrior falters haha
So it is a sound wave screaming Pokemon like his evolutions and Popplio is a normal little sea lion with a bark like a cute little guy who should be like his brethren and be water/Ice!
i know most starters have access to growl. man, I’ve been playing pokemon for 20 years. how sure are you that Popplio will have growl over tail whip? And why not give him Screech if you only want him to make noises
Because in the game it even shows it knows Growl and screech isn’t an attack a sea lion would make screech is an attack that is supposed to hurt a Pokemon’s ears and lower its defense a growl is to intimidate a Pokemon and disarming voice as a warning call upon them!
Personally I would like to see that yes. I’m sick of the starters becoming a dual fighting type in their 3rd evo.
Popplio is a circus star but turns into a mermaid.
I wouldn’t speculate yet. Skitty also knows Disarming Voice by leveling up, and doesn’t evolve to a Fairy type. So does Audino, but only gets the Fairy type through Mega Evolution.
On topic: I feel like Fairy would be an awesome secondary typing. However, they should not make this girly girl Pokemon like in the article. They should make it really elegant and sophisticated.
Off topic: LOOK AT THIS:
Exactly my point. Nice pic btw 😀
It’s drawn by salanchu on deviantart 🙂
There is no way of saying it without sounding rude, but I can’t be the only one who thinks the ‘girly girl’ argument is dumb. :L
Like how many of the starters final evos look masculine and nobody complains? Gardevoir and lopunny can be male and nobody says anything.
With respect it sounds like the argument a 12 year old would make about girls with ‘cooties’
I really get that. I had no idea how to put it in another way. I just like the more masculine Pokemon, they aesthetically please me more 🙂
Ah that’s fair, I’m sort of similar in that sense in that I don’t like littens final evo because I think it looks to much like a ridiculous macho man. 😛
How could anybody NOT like a hulking wrestling Tigre with a belt of fire
That’s freakin badass
Eh I think it looks dumb. 😛
I was hoping more for like a sleek fire dark type or something.
But yeah, different strokes for different folks right!
I really don’t like Litten’s one either. He really should stay on all fours, I’m done with Fire Starters who should be on fours but aren’t (eg Emboar, Delphox, maybe Typhlosion). I think Litten could become a beautiful black panther or something.
Rowlet’s is pretty awesome. Not really fond of the design, but the idea is fucking amazing!
I love rowlets design but my friend is picking him and we always pick differently so yeah XD
Tylopshion still moves on all 4s its just that his game model shows him on 2s. In both the anime and manga he runs on all 4s.
ooooooor maybe this is the first time that we have a starter that has a different design based on their gender. right? nope? okay ?
I don’t really care about the typing as long as this final evo is not real. Popplio’s easily my favourite starter in its first stage, but I hate the “leaked” final form so much…
I would like it to be fairy cause it would really be powerhouse, but that leaked art is way to female, if there is a male version no problem.
alright looks like we need to look at Nintendo Treehouse and see what happens next in the land of Pokemon.
I DOWNRIGHT REFUSE TO LET POPPLIO BE A STINKIN FAIRY
Disarming voice means NOTHING if it were something like Fairy Wind or Moonblast then it would most likely be a Fairy, but in this case where we have a Horn shaped muzzle and nose it’s clearly going off on known fact of Sea Lion’s barking and honking vocalizations
The fact this attack is a fairy does not change the fact that not always the attack depicts evolution
like people thought Chespin was going to be a Rock and Ground Type because of rollout and mud shot but it didn’t, Skuntank learns flamethrower but isnt a fire type,
My point being made is that this attack is easily explainable by the Pokemon’s nature but it doesn’t mean it’s going to be the type in a later evolution
I just will not allow it, also don’t forget the images debunked from the official site
Well unfortunately you don’t really get a say in what type it will become. 🙁
I personally wouldn’t mind if it was a fairy type, but until proven otherwise, I’ll go with the whole, “it will be a water/fighting type.” 🙂
Nintendo Treehouse will give us more clues,so when Nintendo Treehouse starts?
You do know this was all the Sun and Moon stuff right?
It’s all Pokemon GO from this point
it might pull a rabbit foot and give more sun and moon info.
I wouldn’t count on it
well thatt’s the thing, you don’t want to believe but it’s not up to you to decide what they have done anyway :/
But I can apply logic to reasoning
A rare power nowadays
But still makes sense when you think about it, sea lions bark it’s loud and disarming not very fairy like if you ask me,
hmm i see a lot of evidence behind the leaks that a lot of people just doesn’t want to consider, because they just don’t like them. and since you said that you refuse to accept it, that’s why i say you just don’t want to believe
Well they’re not confirmed, and you can’t deny that fact until proven otherwise
Plenty of people could make something like this if talented enough
And don’t forget the images debunked from the Japanese site, Grass/Flying, Fire/Ground, Water/Fighting
And I will always deny it being part fairy, since Disarming Voice isn’t enough to make it a Fairy and nothing you can say will ever make it a Fairy without true solid proof
i know, i can only point out the evidences. and no, i’m not sure if even anyone could make this, because just like no one can falsificate handwriting, no one could falsificate ken sugimori’s way of drawing, which btw is very professional and distinctive. not to mention the amount of creativity and thought behind them and research on how to present it. all done by a single person.
and the japanese site says grass/ground and water/fighting. and the last thing… nothig that i ever say will make it a fairy type with or without solid proof, because i don’t work for gamefrek
Now your just pulling stuff out your ass
There’s plenty of crafty bastards who do this stuff (Mr. XY for example fooled everyone) and there are infinite artists who could do something like this but I’m not letting myself fly off the handle until proven otherwise
And the site didn’t say Grass Ground it said, Grass Flying, then Ground then Fire I don’t believe they would take away Rowlet’s flying
oh no, they can fool you but they can’t replicate another artist’s way of drawing.
i knew they would change the second typing of rowlet from the first second they revealed it
You’re full of it
Goodbye
i’m so sad you relaced your ”applying logic to reasoning, a rare power nowadays” with bad language :/
anyways byeeee
What the hell are you talking about
you can’t see that evidence neither?
well, there’s Uproar, Echoed Voice, Hyper Voice, etc. but they chose Disarming Voice. what gives. also, you may not want Popplio to be a fairy type, but actually you do not have a say to this. we are not the game developer. we all will play the same game anyway, so can’t we just accept what they offer?
I already said this Sea Lions bark, it’s loud, honking and annoying (to a degree) they could’ve gave it Echoed Voice but in all seriousness Disarming Voice works a tad better but by all means doesn’t label it as a fairy
And Hyper Voice and Uproar are extremely op for a starting move
so you mean to say that the Whismur we catch early game in oras is op because its starting move is Uproar? i don’t think so.
*extremely op, as per your comment
Dude it gets it at level 25 that’s fairly late for a first stage and the damn thing evolved at 20, and Loudred learns Uproar at 27
Therefore proven wrong
this is whismur in r/s and in x/y. you’ll get whismur early game ☺ as far as the screenshots are concerned, i believe it learns Uproar in level 5, which is pretty young for an extremely op move ☺
don’t get all smug thinking you won
Yes Whismur gets uproar early in XY but that was them this is now
And it makes more sense for a Whismur to get Uproar but in the past Uproar was weaker with a base power of 50 prior to Gen V
And this was fairly unnoticed until now where now Whismur learns it fairly later to accommodate the higher damage
the point is, at level 5, Whismur learns Uproar with base power 90 in XY. Yes, pretty young for an EXTREMELY OP move. and don’t give me that “that was then this is now” bullshht if you don’t have anything to say that would support your argument ☺ that was then this is noe but they are both whismur
It’s a god damn minor issue, it’s not like everyone was rushing to get a Whismur in XY
And my point still stands that prior to gen five it was a base 50 attack now it’s 90, now in ORAS it’s at level 25 or 27 since it would’ve evolved by then
This still doesn’t change the fact that Disarming Voice on Popplio makes sense when thought over, apossed to just blindly labeling it a fairy without better proof
Uproar’s base power in XY is also 90. and i get to have an EXTREMELY OP move for a level 13 pokemon when i get my Whismur in connecting cave. I love my EXTREMELY OP pokemon. I bet no one will beat me when i use my EXTREMELY OP move uproar in the battles to come. wtf are you talking about, all you say is ORAS when the base power is the same in XY.
Not your choice so suck it up.
Water/Fairy would be amazing in my opinion.
It may not be my choice but out of everyone I’m not thinking competitively, I’m think design, origins and facts given (proven facts not leaks)
And something like this is and has been explained that Sea Lion’s Bark and Popplio’s nose serves multiple functions from its water balloon snorting and now creating a loud sound to attack opponents
You guys play WAY too hard into little facts that end up not being a big deal or untrue
You said you ‘wouldnt allow it to happen ‘
Fact is there is nothing you could do to stop it from happening. That’s the only part of your comment I was attacking.
Personally I don’t really care, and yes I do look at it from a competitive point of view. Because in the long run that’s all that matters to me. FACT.
A special based Water/Fairy has potential.
See playing way too hard to little things
Instead of challenging my argument for proof of logic you miss the mark completely and prey on my distaste for it rather then trying to back up your case
looove reading you, you’re so funny! <3
I don’t have a case to back up. I simply said if it happens it wouldn’t be the end of the world for me, in fact I’d embrace it, I didn’t say it’s definitely going to happen based on rumours on leaks.
In fact if you knew me at all you would know I’m the last person to believe anything that’s not been 100% confirmed.
Your just looking for another person to vent your anger at, and honestly I enjoy it when you do 😉
Im not venting, im proving others wrong
And I’m not going to have this whole thing turn into another Earthen Banwagon
Popplio has a very little chance to be a fairy and that’s it
Awesome. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Personally I think it had a slight chance, but very low based on the information we currently have.
And you agree people jump to conclusions way too easily these days when half the time they know nothing
I do agree with that. People are quick to comment without knowing the full story, without waiting for full details. You see it all the time on social media. And I think it does extend to speculation especially when it comes to games/movies/TV shows.
I wouldn’t mind if it looked something like this, but I definitely still prefer the really good one that what going around earlier. It looked really cool. 😀
Espurr and Meowstic can learn disarming voice just like several Psychic types. I feel like the could go Water/Psychic type.
I still want the whole Cirque de soleil Acrobatic Sea Lion martial artist thing
Where using its strong body to vault itself into the air to preform powerful stunts and attacks, and it’s water balloon skills are even strong where they’re powerful weapons
no, meowstick is the only psychic type that’s not part fairy that can learn disarming voice. and it’s actually the only pokemon that’s probably not going to be fairy bc all the others already are, have a mega that’s fairy or are very probably gonna get one
I think you misread the above comment…
This is like when fennekin used power up punch and everyone went riot because fire/fighting was “confirmed”
well, just one more evidence that the leaked evolutions are real. it’s just so obvious to me they are
i actually hope they are. they’re kinda unpredictable, and it’s kinda fun seeing people go all mad at Litten’s possible fire/fighting type. but i still think that although it looks macho wrestler, it will be a fire/dark
i totally agree, i see it as a fire/dark too, but everyone just assumed it to be a fire/fighting (which it could perfectly be, i’m not saying otherwise)
You do realize the text says attacks like grapples and throws right?
do you realize samurott is a samurai with swords in it and is a pure water type starter? lol
It uses the shells that incorporate it’s armor
Razor Shell
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you do realize that i don’t care, right?
also, you do realize that Whismur learns the EXTREMELY OP move Uproar in level 5 in XY, right?
Why do you keep repeating this? This is like the 4th time you said it. What are you trying to prove?
well, i was offering some other sound based moves that is not fairy i.e. Uproar, and the guy said that Uproar is an EXTREMELY OP move for a low level pokemon, and then I brought up Whismur learning uproar in level 5. Nothing to prove, actually ? just want to reiterate. I can’t blame you if you don’t get the argument
btw i love how popplio’s final form is ”too femenine”
I actually like the fact that it can become Water/Fairy. Is this leak is real, I think it would be awesome too.
The only reason why some of you guys think this is fake is not because it looks too “feminine”, (we have a lot of felino ne looking Pokemon before, one of them is even a starter) but because if this turns out to be real, the Litten’s final evolution is real too and you guys cannot fathom the idea of another Fire/Fighting starter.
One of the reasons, why I think the designs are real, is becarse their concepts are unique and original, something GameFreaks always do when it comes to the final evolution of the starters.
Even though Fennekin’s evo’s were feminine, Fennekin itself had an air of femininity. Popplio does not. I dont see how it could evolve into something feminine, the way how it looks now.
Going with the alchemy theory, Popplio is Mercury, and the female symbol is part of the Mercury symbol.
My speculation could be wrong, but honestly, I think Popplio’s final evo could fit with the water/fairy typing. Because maybe they want to make the first ever fairy starter Pokemon, putting something new in this generation. If that really happens, I just wish that the design won’t be something like from the leaked art..
Water/Fairy Final Evolution of Popplio is perfectly fine with me.
According to the stat spread it will be more defensive with a focus on Special Attack over Physical.
Water/Fairy is a good typing. Access to Scald, HydroPump, Moonblast, maybe Calm Mind. Hidden ability Magic Guard?
Could be decent competitive threat.
I always thought that Popplio would turn Water/Fairy. I wouldn’t hate it and now that they’ve established the Fairy type it makes sense that a starter would have it as a typing in its final evolution. It is strange that it learns a Fairy type move so soon and wouldn’t turn into a Fairy type but then again we’ve seen other Pokemon learn random moves and not become that type.
So by this logic just because it learns an attack it will be a Fairy
So I guess Chespin learning Rollout means it should be a Rock or Froakie learning lick or smack down it should be a ghost or rock too
It’s just one stinking attack, hardly proving anything
You must have not read my entire post… I also said that there have been other Pokemon that learn random moves but don’t evolve into that type…
My apologies I did read it wrong
It’s cool
btw did anyone else notice the awkward silence when popplio learned disarming voice? they were talking all the time except when that happened
Water Fairy is my biggest hope for Water starter this gen as i said it many times before s&m starters were released. Although i greatly dpubt popplio will be that water fairy, it would great if it was.
Also another thing according to the trailer litten is the fastest yet in the fakemon sketch final evo. Littens final evo doesnt even look the fastest. Honestly it looks the slpwest
Evolve casc!
Be relevant nick!
I always was 8)
Well most tigers have an average running speed of 30-40mph in short bursts
But it’s safe to say Heatigre will have a modest speed maybe like 90-105 not like the worst if you ask me
105 speed would be ideal. 115 would be pretty amazing, as it will be faster than all the 110s. Most importantly Gengar, Lati Twins, Mega Metagross. And giving it a Dark Secondary Typing would add to that.
Sorry I’m thinking competitively again.
Well there’s two ways we could look at Heatigre
Fighting: Obviously it’s muscular build and depicted throws and grapples one is even dubbed the “Tiger Throw” and the championship belt of flames which in my opinion is beyond amazing since it would burn brighter and hotter the more victories it has
And Dark: it’s vaguely evil expression and black fur, also in wrestling Luchadors in the past were actually seen as Villians in the ring using dirty tactics to win
Both aspects are very plausible, but I would still lean for a full fledged wrestler and have it learn a few dark type moves like, Sucker Punch, Crunch and or Night Slash
I know but its just strange rowlett final evo looks faster heck even popplio mermaid thing looks to have better speed. Oh well.
Another thing my friend told me about stats. At level 5 Rowlett has 23 HP. Thats fairly high hp for a level 5 pokemon. I know it may be too early to tell. But at level 5 tepig (the highest first stage starter in hp) had 23 hp at level 5 31 IVs. So unless rowlet had high ivs or ev trained. Rowlet could have higher hp than tepig.
Im so excited for these games, i have 80% of my team for gym 1- 3 ??
What’s your team?
1: Litten
2: koalog (if turns into grass)
3: Pubble (iwanko)
4:pikipek
5:Grubbin (if turns into electric)
6: N/A
wbu?
1: Starter (Im waiting for final evos to choose)
2: Iwanko
3: Pikipek
4: Nekkoala
5: Grubbin
6: Yungoos
I only put Yungoos because all we have so far is enough pokemon to make one full team lol
or magearna
ive always went with fire startes since pokemon red and my sixth is always a dragon lol
I haven’t actually decided on a starter, but I want Iwanko on my team.
Popplio and Pubble so far
But I’m trying to wait until things get revealed
I rather we not have clone teams
agreed, so do we all agree on the name pubble?
It’s like Smugleaf all over again.
so its decided PUBBLE it is lml
When I first saw Iwanko I named it Pubby lol close enough
lol close enough right
If I’m going with he rock dog, it my not be ideal to have Popplio as a starter as it doubles up my weakness to grass and just gives me another thing to beat fire with. Hmmm….I usually like balance on my team, so I may go with Rowlet.
Double weakness means nothing
You’re talking to the guy who always has a common weakness and walks the road a warrior
definitely need pubble on my team lol
Really? So far I plan on using Litten and Pikipek.
litten and pikipek most likely stay till the league but the other 4 might change
Iwanko too!! It’s special like the starters, they say
oh yes and iwanko, just not sure cause my team is usually the same every gen
1: fire
2:water
3:grass
4:electric
5:flying
6:dragon
?
Fire
Fighting
Ground
Rock
5 and 6?
Open
I just always have those types on my team
oh ok, got it
The formula is usually my first capture is either a Fighting type or Ground type or Rock type
Mankey Nidoran (Eventually it’s a Ground)
Wooper or Phanpy
RSE is tricky but always Aron or Makuhita
DP hard too but Cranidos
Black Drilbur
X Bunnelby and Pancham
And another tradition is Fossils
Ohhh, that reminds me, I wonder if we’ll get fossils and what type of fossil Pokemon will we get. 😀
Idk what can top gen 6
Gen 6 had the best fossils a Trex(basically) and an ice fossil
Imo the best looking ones too
Yeah, I totally agree, even if Cranidos is my fav of the fossil mons, Gen 6 fossils I liked both of them so much. When they were revealed, I was so hype to use both :3
Ayy cranidos is my favorite too but gen 6 just looked good overall
Bastiodon was meh to me
Yeah, same, I don’t care for Bastiodon as much, while with gen 6, I loved both of them (even if Aurorus has like a million weaknesses, still fun to use).
last gen was the first time i broke my elemental formula and had skrelp and pancham on my team
I’ll have Rowlet, Pikipek, Nekkoala and Iwanko ?
Not me. I usually wait till the end.
i always make a preliminary team for the first 3 gyms and my team usually changes besides the starter and bird poke
I always make a team that sticks till the end. That’s why I usually only have 3 or 4 Pokémon at the 4th gym. Also, apart from in Pokémon Diamond, I’ve never used the bird Poke for my team, I just don’t like using it.
oh really? i sometimes rotate the 5th and 6th members and the only time i didnt use the bird poke was in sapphire, swapped him out for tropius
They all look good so far, but none of them look like Pokemon that I’d use in a normal playthrough just yet. I want to see a fully evolved one.
yea final evos would solidify my choices
I believe that Poppilo will be a Water/Fairy type due to Disarming Voice and it’s low Physical Attack. Yes, seals and sea lions tend to make a large amount of noise, which could spawn the necessity of the move. The stat might be low due to it’s nature, but the surplus of the Special Attack star leads me away from Water/Fighting. Those website evolution might have a low chance of happening at this point.
Just reposting the leak sheet refresh
An archer, a wrestler and a mermaid walk into a region…
And get remorselessly judged on their appearance
The End. *cha-chang* *cha-chang*
We need a statement from pj where he found them or who gave it to him………………………………………………………..
as he stated in the post, I gave it to him
ah ok, and where did you find them?
it’s from 4chan
Please, don’t be real… Please, don’t be real…
Please, don’t be real… Please, don’t be real…
Please, don’t be real……!
Guys guys guys!
Metronome Battle Royale!!
I like your style 🙂
Like I said yesterday
We should hold Battle Royales every weekend
agreed
Yes, it could be Water/Fairy :3
I don’t take too much stock into it, but it’s still a possibility I wouldn’t mind happening :3