I’ve made a YouTube video regarding the image which surfaced earlier today allegedly revealing the final evolutions of Rowlet, Litten and Popplio in Pokémon Sun & Moon. Also included is my own opinion about whether or not I believe these images are real or not.
<3 PJ
ps- spoilers: I think it’s fake
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God if these aren’t real I hope the real ones are at least as good. I’ve been very dissapointed with the starters from 5 and 6 ( ESPECIALLY 6). But maybe that’s because I’m comparing them to Gen 4
We have a ton of masculine starter evos, a more feminine one wouldn’t be bad at all, whatever the gender ratio, I mean look at Gardevoir (50% Male) Yes it was fixed with Gallade, but still. I think the Poplio evo is amazing and a huge improvement to the goofy mess it is currently.
But they’re probably not real 🙁
Tbh I’m fine with the designs I just really need them to have good types… They grew on me a bit. Litten is a lit-down (lol) but the thing about concept art is that they show more… Personality than the official art. I’m okay with a fiery belly button, arrow feathers, and bubble scrunchies.
What would you guys think of Type Suppressors?
I’m sure it will never happen… but an item that gets rid of the second typing of a Pokemon, at the cost of making those moves 50% less effective than the Pokemon’s other Non-STAB Moves?
Sense it has such a heavy cost.. maybe it could be a Secondary item.. . And certain items like this can be held with others
Dumb and extremely counterintuitive
Well I meant everyone’s opinion other than yours. .. only because I already know.. you don’t like change.
Well like it or not I technically am entitled to say my two cents
It just doesn’t feel like a good idea
Also the moral type quarrels, like it would feel criminal to strip the Fighting from an Infernape
But who would give it to Infernape. . .? Fighting moves are some of its best!
My point, some Pokemon truly need their second type
Well I don’t think you understand. .. it’s like the eviolite.. very situational but very useful on certain Pokemon.. so when it’s actually needed .. it’s there. This way people who don’t like where a Pokemon’s evolution is headed can gain control of it. A pleaser item. Just saying.
Evolite is a major thorn in my craw
Eh Eh Eh. .. this is not about if it would make things too tough or annoying competitively, but could it help the player and spice up battle.. like mega and possibly synchro evolution
There was no part of that sentence that I liked
Lol.. ok then. . So don’t worry. My idea won’t happen. Just a fun thought for me
Synchro on the other hand.. . . Hmmmm.. ?
That would be VERY situational. And competitively it wouldn’t really help much at all.
well.. . Losing a few weaknesses is a Big thing. Not Every Pokemon has a good move for its second typing.. it could just bog some Pokemon down. Especially with team building and you find 4 of your Pokemon are weak to the same typing. It could also keep Wi-Fi battles fresh, if the opposing trainer is warned of this when the Pokemon is first thrown out.
But yeah, just a thought ?
Plus, plenty think of the eviolite the same way. . Yet when it helps.. it Really helps.. secondary item is taking it too far I believe..
Ehh idk. I probably wouldn’t use them. I also don’t battle competitively though
Lol. I’m just team building. I actually haven’t made a team I’m 100% happy with until recently.. typing always gets in the way. So this thought popped in my head. I know it won’t actually happen hehe.
Team building is hard. Especially because I try to mainly use dual typed pokemon :I
It is. .. I’m trying to stick to only Pokemon from from the gen I’m focusing on. . But not every gen has a good fire type.. water.. and grass. . That suits my needs..
True life. Especially gen 6 was super hard to build a good team. Not enough new pokemon and too few good choices.
I’m glad someone understands my struggle. . Especially with Mega Pokemon.. . To have 2 Pokemon who can mega or not. .. what a headache.
I’m hoping Synchro evolution if real will help solve this for me
I honestly feel like they’re gonna keep that anime exclusive.
Uhoh. .. a long discussion I’ll avoid for now. Lol.
Had it too many times here
Lol we’ll just have to wait and see. Maybe E3 will shed some light
True Dat!!
There are some Pokemon that can heavily benefit from this. I can think of reducing a Stealth Rock weakness: Charizard without Flying type, or Talonflame without Fire type. Or in general, reducing a problematic 4x weakness like with Abomasnow or Aurorus.
Azumarill going back to pure Water type is not a bad idea, I’d say.
Well at least someone likes it. .. ?
I also thought if an eviolite for attack
Like lightning ball for Pikachu
An attack/spA eviolite has some niche applications…
Rhydon or Graveler in Trick Room are gonna be really powerful sweepers. Or Scyther without Trick Room. Sneasel is the best priority move (Ice Shard) user of a theorerical attack/spA eviolite.
We can all say the same about the normal def/spD eviolite: when it’s good on a Pokemon, it’s really, really good.
Exactly! Would be much fun I think!
I wouldn’t mind the Grass and Fire Starters ending up like those. But the water one I don’t really like too much. 🙁 Which is a shame as I’m choosing Popplio.
There fake anyway so who cares 😉 😀 haha
Being able to name your rival.
Yes or no and why?
Depends, normally I try to envision myself in their world but some call for their own name
A nice possibility for those who like it I suppose .. I never do it. I’m terrible at making final decisions.. they’re just so… Final. Lol. Which is why I never name my Pokemon even with the name teacher
I only nickname my competitive Pokemon, and even then it has a lot of thought put into it depending on their type, design, etc..
I always nickname my pokemon, even if the names I come up with are awful.
Same. I think I have a better bond with them if I name them 😛
I personally think that when people just make up whatever they want, it can take away from the character.
I say yes, but I almost always use their intended name. It can be fun to customize the game to your own liking. If you can name yourself (when the main characters also have actual names) then I don’t see why rivals should be off limits
Depends on if we actually have a rival this time.
We do. In the screenshot with the pokedex, all three starters had been seen in battle.
It was actually a video, not a screenshot.
Hau and Lilly.
I say no, but only because a sizable amount of people give them unflattering names… and that’s probably the reason Game Freak stopped letting players name the rival… -_-
Yes. It makes the journey more personal, like naming your PC.
Yes because I like to name after real people in my life who would be a rival of mine.
It was nice back in the day, but most RPGs have moved away from allowing players to name side characters and NPCs to help better define those characters. I like that they’ve done that because it puts more focus on the writing and, if I may, the literary value of video games.
Yes because I’ve always gave then a respectable name. It made it that much sweeter to beat them in a battle.
Rowlet line really has so much potential as these fake arts show and I am intrigued with all these hoods people add it up. Green Arrow style ! But yes I agree seems fake to me cause of Litten and Popplio evo. Litten somehow way to generic and fire/fighting would be major disappointing, while Popplio and that mermaid thing looks way to female. Would love to have that Poke in the games overall but not as Popplio evo.
Sooo, I’m a longtime lurker who made a couple comments 3 years back, and I’ve been itching to jump into discussion on Sun&Moon. I’m firmly Team Undecided on the leak, but I’m honestly leaning more towards fake. I like the designs, but something feels off, especially with Popplio’s evo. Also, the starters are so simple in design that these evos look really complex, almost busy, by comparison. I’ll be happy with these if they are real, but I’m unconvinced. Looking forward to discovering the truth with you guys!
Welcome back to the discussions! So far I’m team Litten because I love cats and black is my favorite color(It goes with every other color expect brown. Brown sucks though) I’m hoping to see some new beginner route Pokemon or a few megas next update
Thanks! I eventually make a team that always includes all 3 starters, but I’ll probably be using Popplio for my first playthrough (gotta love dem water types). I’m also looking forward to some early route Pokemon, and I reeeeally wanna see some new Electric types.
I’ve debated using a team of all three to see which ones I like best. I agree about the Electric types.
i just ran froma shiny butterfree and now im dead inside
i should probably just stop for now but i’m really angry so im gonna find another one
i crave the sweet release of death
*Gunshot*
thanks
*Takes your wallet…and your shoes*
:))))
im very happy
Ouch! I ran from a shiny caterpie in silver before on accident so I feel your pain
Comment #420
Objection, your honor! If this leak is real, I’m changing my choice from Litten to Popplio. and I’m a dude. ♥
Obviously you a dude, there’s no such thing as girls
I really don’t get what you mean, sorry. 🙁
I mean online
I still don’t get it. Whatever sarcastic joke you were making, I don’t understand.
there are some girls here if you are refering this
I’d need an in-game model of Rowlet’s (supposed) final evolution to finally decide, but based on this I prefer Popplio’s final evo 🙂
Ay yo I just noticed something on the Heatigre pic
Notice Ash and Pikachu with some tropical girl maybe the new companion
i think theyre fake too but using the type files on the site is pretty weak evidence imo, because just like serebii joe said, it doesnt make sense to upload type images for pokemon until you intend to use them
also solgaleo and lunala types were added, and they are steel, ghost, and steel, in that order, despite solgaleo coming first, so there are obviously some liberties being taken with the order within the order of uploads
I hope they’re fake. They all look stupid except I like the archer idea for Rowlet
Not to be rude, but I don’t understand how anyone can think these are real. They do not look real to me in the slightest :/
Never be afraid to be rude
If you got something on your chest, blurt it out regardless of consequences!!!
Lol. nah, I’d rather not be a dick to people unless there’s good reason. I like this fandom, it’s full of kind people.
https://youtu.be/BBLKOAd0h_4
thank you for this comment, strawberry. Kindness ftw! and being a dick… ftl! (for the loss)
♥
Lying piece of waste. This bitch here IS being a dick & attacking those who have different views than this waste of space.
I don’t get why people always have to preface everything with “I don’t mean to be rude” or ” don’t get mad at me.” Don’t back out on expressing your opinion.
But yeah, I agree with you here.
It’s because people are easily offended these days.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN OFFENDED!!!!!!!????????
This.
I don’t mean to be rude, but I think there are certain times when you should refrain from speaking your opinions. Maybe that’s just me, and it’s got nothing to do with hurting others, but yourself.
Don’t get mad at me pls
/s
I don’t understand….your message
Wha?
Oh, I’m not backing out on expressing my opinion. I’m just aware that when it comes to discussing fanart (because that’s what these are until confirmed otherwise) people can get really, really bitchy and flame wars can start. I just wanted to be clear that I wasn’t doing that. If you think they’re real, cool, I’m not insulting you, I just do not personally see it. They look hilariously fake.
My exact thoughts, to me they just scream fake all over the place… #teamfake
If these were real I’d actually choose Popplio. I’ve always wanted a proper mermaid pokemon.
YES IT NEEDS SOME LOVE! It’s amazing
Id pick Popplio for my Moon (character is Aurora) and Litten for my Sun (Cosimo)
I had a thought….what IF Popplio’s evo WAS a Water/Fighting, just to totally screw your mind
https://images.rapgenius.com/caa9f6d6c23babf5f9a1add2680433c5.500x333x21.gif
Someone is drowning in disbelief. It looks like a majestic Water/Fairy that will ruin your team.
Alright guys we need to figure out this the new starters are based on the circus I know but by the looks of this final evolutions they kind of based on the movies or something and i was wonder what these three new Final evolutions are based on which movie?
Even if these are fake, I can still see the archer being a plausible idea, as Rowlet is the grass quill Pokemon and learns the new move Leafage. On this topic, what are your ideas for new moves in sun and moon?
Quill Flurry
[Flying]
Base Power: 25 Physical
The user assaults the opponent with a barrage of razor sharp feathers, hits 2-5 times
So flying type water shutiken? I mean nothing wrong with that as many moves are just retyping of others
Well that would mean increased priority
This is just a standard multi-hitting move
Honest we need more physical flying attacks
As a signature move? Ehh.. I’d prefer something that did more damage.
Dude 2-5 strikes
50-125 damage
And most likely it will only do 75 damage. I’ve never liked the multiple hitting moves because they’re just luck, like magnitude.
I want these to be fake so bad. I wouldn’t mind the Rowlett one, but the other two are just furry oc’s
2/6 of the way done for grinding in my nuzlocke of FRLG, then I’ll challenge the E4.
Will probably lose to Lorelei >.>
Just out of curiousity what is your team?
Victreebel, Graveler, Lapras, Charizard, Gyarados and Jolteon. Lapras and Graveler are both mid 50’s, Victreebel is almost 50 and everybody else is mid 40’s.
*everybody else woops
Currently doing a randomizer for Red :3
Nice. Team?
Dragonair, Arcanine, Machoke, Jolteon, Gengar, Kingler. All late 30’s. 6th gym.
Nice team! Dragonite will be great when you evolve Dragonair, and you’re lucky you got Gengar…
I got him around level 13 after fighting Lt. Surge :3
Damn.
I wish the Physical/Special split happened in Gen 3 so Victreebel’s attack stat wouldn’t go to waste
Fake! Lets move on.
We got nothing for 9 days
True, I guess it’s nice to speculate about. But these are fake no doubt.
As I said before, I LOVE these, but *these* will remain my favorite starter evolution leaks of all time: *refresh*
Out of all of these, I only like Ballio.
Who’s Ballio?
That’s what /vp/ is calling that Popplio evolution
Oh lol!
My soulmate
BALLIO BROS
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The supposed final evolution for Popplio.
Ew
Wait are these confirmed fakes?
Yup. They’re fakes. Their not even Ken’s artstyle.
True. This is something I can take comfort in.
One day I’ll find one
Me and Ballio are one
Tmw http://i.imgur.com/4bUQ0tZ.png
Congrats! I love encountering a shiny Pokemon when you’re least expecting!
I can’t transfer it cuz emulator. Tis a shame.
I’ll catch it, but not grinding it up.
Tis a beautiful specimen of a Geodudette
Why are literally all shinies female
Called it Geochick.
This reminds me of my first shiny
http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/firered-leafgreen/shiny/marowak.png
Of course it’s ground type
So is my Friend Safari
I’m destined boi!
One day, you will encounter a Ground/Fairy type.
And I’ll either keep it as a shoulder pet or bench it at my Ground Type Ranch
It’ll be a Pigxie
Not gonna lie I like the name
But only one Ground/Fairy that makes sense
http://66.media.tumblr.com/573569476b4fd64c6f94ca8ba36209a6/tumblr_mfuk0eBJOC1rw7u8ro1_1280.png
Eh, I’m sure with a bit of thought many other combinations could be thought out. That’s a supremely disappointing representation of a pink fairy armadillo though… ‘The hell is this generic opossum crap, where’s the ditzy big nose face and the huge claws???
> Geodude used Selfdestruct
These starters are certainly odd. I thought it would follow a circus-motif in designs. Yet, I see they might have went for something completely different.
Rowlett’s evolution gives off some Green Arrow/Robin Hood vibes. I seriously like the design of it’s final evolution.
Litten, I’m not so sure of. I’m tired of bipedal Fire-Type Starters, so I’m not a fan. Yet, I do hope it stays pure Fire or incorporates the Fire/Ground Type.
Lastly, Popillio just looks majestic! I adore it’s designs, yet I feel like it’s designs would differ with gender. Overall, these starters are something rather new.
Still, I’m considering this information as a pure rumor or fake until the third evolution is official revealed.
You pretty much sum up my thoughts exactly. Honestly, I think they are fake, but I want them nonetheless.
That’s why I love Rowlet’s design, because it gives off that vibe. Especially because I recently got into Arrow :3
Watch The Flash. Doo it.
I’ll add it to the list of many shows I do need to watch xD
okay guys let’s think about this the new starters for Generation 7 are all based on the circus but when we saw their final evolutions they’re based on something else those three final Evolutions might be based on movies which movies that these final evolutions are based on?
Nacho Libre, Little Mermaid, and Robin Hood.
https://youtu.be/fyjG1raSHMI
so we got one Nickelodeon movie and 2 Disney movies Cool!
@PercyEspeon:disqus I see you’re lurking. Hai!!!
Your name seems really familiar around here…
Mine?
Yup! I remember seeing a Shiny Noivern here in the past.
I am he. Did you change your name recently? I don’t recall your username.
I’m was the one and only… AFARR!
Woah I honestly had no idea. I thought you were new (a while back).
Ah, yes. I recall you admiring me from Afarr!
:3 I didn’t have too much to say, it’s why I was lurking. But hey 😀 Haven’t seen you in awhile.
I’ve been vacationing in Kalos, awaiting my trip to Alola 🙂
Hey, how far did JJungle go before cancellation? I left before it as cancelled, so I wouldn’t know.
I wanted to lead my troops to cause trouble
We had a first route mapped out, some sprites, and I think the first town. No plot though.
Oh wow. I didn’t miss much then, because right before I left we had all that.
Chip and I were the only ones working on the game physically.
I had some other routes and stuff mapped out; I still have everything
I have all the files on my old laptop.
I kinda just sat back and said I was working. I did love seeing the progress though, I could never have done what you did.
It was a lot of work.