Video: Sun/Moon Starter Evolutions Rumor

I’ve made a YouTube video regarding the image which surfaced earlier today allegedly revealing the final evolutions of Rowlet, Litten and Popplio in Pokémon Sun & Moon. Also included is my own opinion about whether or not I believe these images are real or not.

<3 PJ

ps- spoilers: I think it’s fake

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1,254 thoughts on “Video: Sun/Moon Starter Evolutions Rumor”

  1. One of my main issues with these is the fact that Rowlett is basically a hawk or a falcon at this point over an owl

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  2. Here’s something that I don’t get. The Noivern image has digital text, right? Why in the world wouldn’t the fakers do that, as it’s so easy to replicate? It would have made their “fake” that much more believable. Obviously someone with an educated knowledge of color palettes and the Japanese language has handwritten these notes. I suppose anyone could technically do that, but the amount of detail is still intriguing to me.

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    • I’m a real boy, not digital. Although, these are detailed. I’m still doubtful of the authenticity of these leaks, cause I don’t think Gamefreak is going to do another Fire/Fighting. I will add that this is a good time to leak stuff, given that E3 is right around the corner.

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  3. This reminded me of when Fennekin used Power-Up Punch in the trailer and mass hysteria ensued. I also have faith GF won’t make another Fire/Fighting starter.

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  4. Slightly off topic, I saw a video analyzing the bracelets that the SuMo protagonists are wearing. They’re shown in the artwork, and in some gameplay clips. Given that at the center of the bracelet is a crystal gem (AND STEVEN!), and the same gem is shown in the Japanese Logos, they should have a prominent role in the plot. They’re pretty similar in appearance to the burst hearts from Pokemon Reburst and Ash-Greninja has been floating around in the anime. Do you guys think the bracelets are representative of Fusion evolutions, where the trainer can fuse with their Pokemon or their pokemon starts looking like them in some way, or just mega bracelets?

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      • Restating; the concept of this alleged Synchro Evolution and Mega Evolution are virtually identical down to the label
        Both utilizing bonds to achieve a new form and higher strength
        But you are all blinded by just the idea of the Pokemon taking form similar to the trainer or vise-versa
        And everyone consistently brings up Ash-Greninja as your only defense but as clearly stated by both the Anime’s site that this phenomenon only has occurred once every 100 years to “Special Greninja” clearly referring to the Ninja Hero’s Greninja but honestly none follow the anime anymore and just jump to conclusions

        And also I stated this is a way the writers can give Ash a Pseudo-Mega to compete with the trio of rivals aka Alain’s Charizard and Sawyer’s Sceptile and therefore each rival has a mega of a starter type which makes so much sense

        But this… “Synchro Evolution” is basically Mega Evolution with a fancier name, Yes the Protagonist hold very peculiar watches/bracelets but immediately jumping to Synchro Evolution is nothing less then foolhardy, it could be a PSS Device or just a Mega Bracelet but I truly do not think Pokemon Fusing with Humans will EVER be promptly displayed in a main series game

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    • I love you man but if you EVER bring up Reburst or synchro evolutions I will tear your wings off and stuff them into your ears

      Synchro evolution is literally Mega Evolution and Reburst is Manga (Also the rhomboid Crystals everyone looks up are even label artificial burst hearts on bulbipedia)

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    • The thing that is offputting for me is the fact that there are 2 different colors resembling the sun and moon colors. And they are flipped in the logos.
      For some reason I feel like the crystals might have to do with the legendaries, but also we get them at the start of the game so that’s really confusing XD.

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      • Noticed that too. One is orangeish, the other is purple-ish. But it IS weird that we’re getting them early on in the game.

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  5. So what news does everyone think we get at E3? I’m really excited for E3 now because we get Pokemon. So what do we get?

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    • We’ll probably get some new pokemon revealed in a trailer but they won’t be named. We’ll see it on the official site though, Similar to how Noivern being shown in a trailer but not formally introduced. We might get the evil team and maybe more info on things such as the Rotom Pokedex. Maybe 1 or 2 gym leaders, the champion, or just some character of importance.

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        • We also had PSS, Amie, and Super Training reveal as well. So maybe we get some kind of new feature revealed there.

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          • Maybe expanding on the QR feature. Hopefully it confirms horde battle are still a thing. Or just some way to EV trainer pokemon easier

        • If revealed they should make the description discrete and not super obvious that they are the champion (Diantha)

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          • Hopefully the Leader of the Evil team wont be super obvious either. Yeah I’m talking bout you Lysandre

          • Yeah something like that. They just need to make sure not to give them a super obvious design like Lysandre. After everyone saw him they could tell he was leader, or at least an important position, in Team Flare even though he was introduced as just the owner of Lysandre Labs

    • I think it’ll be a very large amount of information. I’d say 4-6 pokemon, some more characters, and some new feature, similar to how E3 2013 revealed fairy types. Also possibly a story trailer.

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  6. For those that maybe didn’t or haven’t taken Anatomy & Physiology class in high school, Litten’s final evo in the picture is firing a flame attack from his NAVEL so unless your wee-wees are sticking out of your belly button y’all need science.

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  7. I love Popplio’s final, it’s Fabulous! Werk it. 6.5

    Rowlett’s is the coolest design though. 8.5

    Litten’s final gets a 7. I know people would riot if GF made another fire/fighting but I mean I can imagine GF trolling the fanbase, how popular is it to make fun of the idea of them creating another fire/fighting anyway.

    But I agree with PJ these are probably fake, but I would still love for these to be real.

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  8. Does Coro-Coro release around E3? If so there might not be anything too relevant since the Nintendo E3 Treehouse event is so close to the release.

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  9. When I first saw them I thought litter would become part fighting…if these are even real. But went on 4chan and saw this. Could be a decent idea on how to make it dark

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    • Yeah I’m thinking it’s probably Fire/Dark really, though I’d still expect it to learn some Fighting moves at least.

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    • This is awesome! I forgot about that since Mexico has the same thing, the good guys and the bad guys in wrestling.

      It’s been over a decade since I last saw Mexican wrestling.

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  10. This is off topic, but PLEASE PLEASE GF give us a few fully evolved decent poison types in Sun and Moon. We only got the Skrelp line in XY, and it is my favorite type.

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  11. Ok, so these comments about E3 got me thinking. We had 9 Pokemon revealed during E3 between E3 itself and CoroCoro, these being Litleo, the Scatterbug line, Noivern, Flabebe, Talonflame, Skrelp, and Clauncher. Considering the amount of new Pokemon in XY, this is nearly 1/7 of all the Pokemon (keep in mind that this was revealed alongside many features such as Pokemon Amie, fairy type, etc.). I think based on this, we can expect 5-7 Pokemon, to keep expectations low.

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    • I think that during the stream on June 14, as well as the “E3 2016 Pokemon Special” on June 16, we’ll get a similar blowout of information. It’s about time that we start seeing regular Pokemon besides the starters and legendaries. We could also hear about the mechanic relating to the watch and the yellow diamond shape, but I’m expecting that to be revealed later.

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    • Agreed

      I just looked up my work schedule the week of E3 and i work during all the pokemon days… At least I’ll learn the new info all at once

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    • Wasn’t that because they were demoing X&Y? Didn’t they say Zelda is the only demo this year. So that means that they’re just show casing the games, hopefully with new ibfo otherwise who cares.

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  12. Maybe GF is going to surprise everyone with a major gender difference for the final evos? Since these are supposed anime sheets instead of game sheets. Maybe a character has a female popplio? And that goes for a male Litten to! I say this because the only drastic male/female differences we’ve seen were from the Hippopotas line and Frillish line to name a couple.

    I really would be excited to see these as the final evolutions though! Rowlets always been my #1 choice and seeing this final evo, I would definitely choose it!

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    • Grass/water manatee – has moss and small flowers/sea weed on its back.

      Bug/fairy Luna moth – counterpart to volcarona

      Water/psychic dolphin

      Dark/electric ferret or something, just wanna see that type

      Dark/fighting raccoon

      Fairy/flying peacock

      Water/rock (?) -rock hopper penguin

      Steel/ice mirror, very high special defense and sp attack

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    • Ground/Fighting Mud Wrestling Warthog
      Grass/Fire Flaming Tiki
      Water/Poison Sea Python
      I want to see either a real Electric/Water Stingray/Mantaray
      Pure Poison Living Acid Blob
      Fire/Ground Raging Bull
      Normal Amorphous blob but only has Protean Morphix
      Some kinda “Norse Dwarf” with Rock Steel Fire Ground and Electric
      Also Fairy/Ghost Mask kinda like a living hexing mask
      And Water/Flying storm cloud only has Drizzle

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        • Well I want a hyper corrosive slimeball
          But traditions dictate that since this is a odd number Generation
          We are to have a 2 staged poison blob
          Grimer and Muk 1
          Gulpin and Swalot 3
          Trubbish and Garbodor 5

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    • Fairy/Steel UFO – Would probably look similar to UFO Kirby
      Normal/Ghost Sheet Ghost
      Fighting/Ghost Skeleton (Could have a different type, maybe Rock/Ghost… I just want a skeleton Pokémon really)
      Normal/Poison Slime, like a cute RPG-type slime
      Fairy/Bug Pixie, could also take inspiration from fairyflies
      Elec/Something (Ghost or Fairy?) Ball Lightning
      And there’s also a bunch of neat unused typings I’d like to see but don’t have any particular ideas for – Fighting/Elec, Poison/Fire, Bug/Psychic, Dragon/Bug, Elec/Dark, Dark/Fairy, etc.

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  13. So I’m sitting here watching the latest anime dub, so the whole thingamabob about them Showcases are these Princess Keys
    And it got me thinking what if they did an episode where a rogue Klefki stole em

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  14. If I were to pick Chikorita for my SoulSilver playthrough, would the game get any more difficult? I’ve never used it before and I’m strongly considering it. By extension, should I try going for a shiny starter? The 1/8192 chance is technically multiplied by 3 since each of the starters is shown each time (assuming that’s how math works).

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      • I only ask because I just got up to Sunyshore in Diamond with Torterra and the game still isn’t difficult at all. I’ll probably try Chikorita just for fun.

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    • That is how the math works, that’s what I did, and I got a shiny Chikorita. It really isn’t that much harder imo

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    • I have used Chikorita a lot, and yes, it makes the game considerably more difficult, especially the first three gyms.

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    • It’s challenging at first, cause obviously both Faulkner & Bugsy beat grass, however it’s still pretty easy to not die
      You could probably catch a Geodude specifically for Faulker and wall both his Pokemon

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    • I’m on a run through right now and I chose chikorita. It’s not that difficult, it’s movepool is just limited to basically only grass type for offensive moves. So to help it out I decided not to use an electric type so that it could take on all the water types and I wouldn’t have to worry so much about it gaining exp. It’s worked well so far, I just got my 7th badge and am defeating team rocket.

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  15. I hope that these aren’t real. Litten and Rowlett’s look pretty good, but Popplio’s looks super weird. I don’t think any starter has ever looked outright masculine or feminine before and I doubt that they would start anytime soon; the point being that someone can pick a starter and not be worried about it looking uncool. Especially given that starter Pokemon have a 75% chance of being male anyway.

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    • A lot of them look pretty outright masculine tbh. Samurott, Emboar, Infernape, Empoleon, Chesnaught, even this Litten evo.
      Also, what, are you saying girls are uncool? ;(

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      • Way to put words in my mouth. What I’m saying is that not everyone is gonna go for a starter that evolves into a Pokemon that pretty much looks super feminine. I don’t have a problem with women protagonists, but this design looks way too polarizing to me.

        And all those examples look masculine because they are supposed to portray a certain motif.

        Samurott = samurai with armor
        Emboar = wrestler
        Infernape = Son Goku (from Journey to the West
        Empoleon = king (or royalty, as it were)
        Chesnaught = knight with heavy armor (almost like a paladin)
        Litten evo = evil wrestler

        The point being is that bulkier, muscular shapes are more symbolic of masculinity but don’t need to be limited to men. I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that Game Freak wouldn’t make a starter outright portraying a certain gender.

        But that’s beside the point. The starters have been revealed for a month now and you guys think that the final evolutions would just leak this soon? Apart from Blaziken (who first appeared in the anime), I don’t think any final evos have been unofficially revealed no sooner than a month or so out from the release date. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong, but for the moment, I highly doubt that these are the final evos.

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        • Sure, but also: Not everyone is gonna go for a Pokémon that evolves into a ninja, or a giant muscle boar, or a snake, etc. That’s why there’s three, so you can choose whichever one you prefer.

          And same thing with this Popplio evo: It looks feminine because it’s supposed to portray a certain motif – a mermaid.

          Your next point goes both ways too, sure the way it looks is more symbolic of femininity, but it doesn’t need to be limited to women. There’s plenty of feminine men in real life, so why couldn’t a male Pokémon be feminine as well?

          Your last point is pretty fair, but also: It’s (supposedly) a /leak/. They obviously weren’t supposed to be revealed this soon, but there’s no reason to believe the designs haven’t been finalized for a while. They very well COULD be fake, but you can’t say for sure just because it’s ‘too early’ since this obviously wasn’t a planned reveal. Besides, who knows, maybe they’re slated to appear in the anime soon. Really the only thing we can do at this point is wait and see.

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  16. WAIT. I just realized that the whole archer thing makes perfect sense considering what we know about the new move Leafage. It shoots a leaf quill. It is a barrage of quills, hence the name LeafAGE.

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  17. I’m not sure about these. They seem so far off but we will just have to wait and see. One thing I do hope we get is that the Pokemon talk like they do I. The anime (they say their names) and like Pikachu does in X & Y. No more weird random sounds, I want Litten to say “Lit litten” and now some sound sequence.

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  18. If Solgaleo wasnt fire type MAYBE litten evo will not be fighting type (dark type perhaps? a wrestler that cheats instead of using raw strength?)

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  19. Random . . But definitely Needs to be said..
    I am going to be So Pisses if the give yet Another Starter a Signature move that doesn’t work with its Ev layout..
    I also want them to be competitive but cone on.. a Physical move on for Greninja.. and Samurott.. what were they thinking!

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      • Yes, I’m tired of, for example, a Pokemon having 90 atk 75 Sp.atk knowing damn well people would make it an attacker and all that sp.atk was just a waste.. could of went elsewhere to make it more useful. Especially when it’s special attacks are Way better for some reason..
        What is this.. Gen 1?

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        • tea! i hate when they have high attack but their movepool? just special moves (zebstrika im looking at you)

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        • Or when they give it a decent attack stat with a mediocre sp. attack stat but it has a special movepool….. (klinklang)

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