NOTE: This article is purely speculative and should be treated as such. It is not fact!
With the release of the latest round of Pokémon news, we’ve got an excellent look at (some of) the Alola Region in Sun & Moon. The archipelago seems to contain a number of great locations for trainers to visit and discover new Pokémon in, but one place in particular has caught our attention…
This walled location one the regions south-east — and largest — region… Could is be the Azoth Kingdom? Azoth is said to be a mechanical fortress town, where Magearna was created 500 years ago. There’s not a huge amount to go on here, but the location certainly could pass as a “mechanical fortress”! This would also mean that the upcoming movie could be set in the Alola region, where Azoth is found (see below for screenshots of what we believe to be Azoth in the movie).
Readers can expect a full speculation article and a video taking a closer look at some of the points of interest on the Alola region map in the coming days! For now though, we want you to discuss whether or not you think this could be the mechanical kingdom of Azoth and what this could mean for trainers in Sun & Moon!
A bit off topic but what do you guys think about “Synchro Evolution” in Sun and Moon? There are those weird revive like crystals on the bracelets and they don’t really seem like Key Stones to me. Having another evolution method besides Mega Evolution would be pretty interesting in my opinion but it feels like they haven’t explained the concept of megas enough yet to introduce something brand new. To be honest I think Ash-Greninja in the anime is so much cooler than Mega Pokémon, they should’ve started with “Synchro Evolution” instead of megas. This whole Ash-Greninja thing seems much more personal than holding 2 random pieces of rock.
@EarthenWarrior Tell ’em
With gusto
As I said before the concept of this alleged Synchro Evolution and Mega Evolution are virtually identical down to the label
Both utilizing bonds to achieve a new form and higher strength
But you are all blinded by just the idea of the Pokemon taking form similar to the trainer or vise-versa
And everyone consistently brings up Ash-Greninja as your only defense but as clearly stated by both the Anime’s site that this phenomenon only has occurred once every 100 years to “Special Greninja” clearly referring to the Ninja Hero’s Greninja but honestly none follow the anime anyone and just jump to conclusions
And also I stated this is a way the writers can give Ash a Pseudo-Mega to compete with the trio of rivals aka Alain’s Charizard and Sawyer’s Sceptile and therefore each rival has a mega of a starter type which makes so much sense
But this… “Synchro Evolution” is basically Mega Evolution with a fancier name, Yes the Protagonist hold very peculiar watches/bracelets but immediately jumping to Synchro Evolution is nothing less then foolhardy, it could be a PSS Device or just a Mega Bracelet but I truly do not think Pokemon Fusing with Humans will EVER be promptly displayed in a main series game
And I truly cannot stress this enough these are not Burst Hearts or Burst Attack as those are non canon
Also if we were to have this “Synchro-evolution” surely the professor would be studying it, like sycamore studied mega evolution.
You do realize they are the same exact thing right?
Yes, but if they require different stones to achieve this evolution I would have assumed there would be different research/story behind it. But yeah their the same thing pretty much.
Look don’t muck up this with But Ifs, we truly do not need this weaboo crapola
Maybe dual type attacks may be a thing now? Idk lol
Note: aside from flying press
Fehhhh I don’t like excessive Dual Type moves
Flying Press makes sense but then it just kinda goes out of hand
I agree now also. It was a fun concept with flying press, but it seems like it would over complicate things.
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Alright guys, I’ve been looking at the map for a long time and noticed a couple of things. There are some buildings (other than pokemon centers) that appear multiple times around the region.
The first are these blue buildings: http://i.imgur.com/RRUjzFQ.png
My first thought was that they separated the pokemart from the pokemon center, but I think in the first trailer they showed them still together (?), but I’m not 100% sure on that because the last place I found it is far away from any town.
The second are these orange-ish roofed buildings: http://i.imgur.com/0CwRXXA.png
Now I thought these could be the gyms, but there’s a couple problems. The first is that I only found two, and the second is that the Kalos region map didn’t show any gyms.
So what do you all think? Are these just random placeholder buildings scattered across the map? Do they have any significance?
Hm…idk. I think the gyms could be in special buildings this time around. The orange roof buildings could be some new type of facility or something. Maybe the blue roofed ones are specialized shops different from a pokemart?
My guess is that Lillie has something to do with AZ and the great pokemon war. Maybe that’s why she hates pokemon battling. She is also named after a flower….perhaps she could be AZ’s daughter or descendant.
or a pokemon in disguise *gasps*
For the people crying about Solgaleo’s typing. Stfu
Who even cares about legendary typings. People usually don’t even use them…
Apparently a majority of the Pokémon community. People are complaining about how stupid Solgaleo is because it’s not a Fire Type yet it has a relation to the sun.
I like the typing. Maybe those people can just handover their Beldum and Jirachi
I love the typings for both. They’re not stereotypical.
And it makes it easier for Garchomp to beat them both
Good 🙂
Crunch N Quake
G-Chomp gonna have some Quaker Oates for breakfast
Sic Em’
Yeah I saw some of that. It’ll blow over eventually… probably…
Nope I bet even as we speak hundreds of memes are being squirted out
Ew why you gotta phrase it like that lol
The symbolism is far too real
thats right. I always catch, but never use.
Same. Their stats are too high to use for me. Feels like cheating
Tell that to the online meta
Yeah..good thing I don’t online battle lol
Hey it’s not their fault Game Freak themselves mandated the 2 Legends VGC ’16. 😀
Tell that to VGC 2016
I know, I mean where does it state it has to BE the sun,
We just don’t know enough lore yet
I actually like that its psychic/steel. Lunala was always my favorite of the two, but solgaleo’s typing makes me like it more than i did.
Yeah but when you think about Solgaleo might have more in common with Iron Meteorites then the sun,
As with most extraterrestrial Pokemon they are very different, and natives often just go by looks and its legend when doing this kinda stuff
I like this meteorite things. Steel for the elements that make it up and psychic for space?
Just did some research into this picture. Its connected to alchemy, where the lion represents Mercury, a toxic, liquid like metal, and the sun represents gold. I feel the alchemy aspect is where its psychic typing comes from, and steel from mercury. Also, i’d like to point out that Azoth is another alchemical term. Im going to go research lunala’s origin now.
I don’t complain about the types, I do think it’s weird for the sun legendary that his weakness is fire and that the weakness of Lunala is dark x4 xD
Alanis Morissette – Ironic
An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It’s a black fly in your Chardonnay
It’s a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn’t it ironic, don’t you think
It’s like rain on your wedding day
It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid
It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take
Who would’ve thought, it figures XD
I love Solgaleo’s typings! It’s so different and cool and unexpected. It also solidified me having my starter as Litten on the Sun version rather than the Moon version.
I think honestly who cares it kind of looks like metal but I’m choosing Moon with Popplio!
I find this sad… I mean the sun in plasma nit fire… And steel is such an Awsome type. I mean I loved the suprise! Lunaala was depressing because apparently it isn’t even viable for Ubers :,(
You are the prey and we are the hunter ha! ha!
I like how you can see the rain by the city, just sayin
I noticed that too and I must say I’m enchanted
I do enjoy areas of perpetual rain
Even more confirmation that Solgaleo is actually a Living Meteorite
“Its signature move is Sunsteel Strike, an attack that charges at an opponent with the force of a meteor, disregarding the target’s Ability.”
Which explains why so much of Solgaleo’s attacks and ability is related to metals
It is a Iron Meteorite,
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/TamentitMeteorite.JPG
And always the psychic as cosmic rays and what not
It’s goal is to use its extremely durable body to withstand the atmospheric hazards and even more so to withstand the immense heat of the sun to literally consume its power as it says its body draws strength from solar radiation and rays
Who know maybe Lunala is actually a protector since if it calls the moon to cast the planet into nightfall Solgaleo cannot have enough strength to achieve its goal, but maybe the charging process and how it does it is still shrouded in mystery
The japanese name is Meteor Drive.
Even more so
Hmm… I having a hard time finding anything that connects lunala to alchemy. I will keep looking into this, its not as easy to connect as solgaleo haha
Alchemy seems to be a theme. Since the movie mentioned “mystery science” (I know it’s not always canon with the games), I was actually wondering if it was pokemon’s version of alchemy. Maybe the whole kalos medieval theme (alchemy was popular during those time – turn lead into gold, etc) connects with this mystery science?
Nah…I’m looking too far into it lol
Also I think there could be a connection with X and Y afterall.
http://www.osholeela.com/NEW/sunmoon.html
“Moon is “”death””, sleep, dream, imagination; Sun is “”life””, awakening, logic.”
Also it talks about how moon transforms what it receives from the sun. As Lunala’s entry suggests “it constantly absorbs light to convert into energy”.
Maybe, with a proper research, someone could find Lunala’s actual origins.
There is this, not connected with alchemy but mythology:
Huh this is interesting. I wonder if this will turn into a sort of “myth vs science” story.
I like how many people are rambling about solgaleo and how it should be fire, because if it was fire they would probably be rambling that its pyroar 2.0 and that gf has 0 originality. I actually like solgaleos typing because it was unexpected and brings forth speculation as to why it has this typing.
My exact argument. The is a cesspool of contrarians.
If people have even a little knowledge about physics, they’d know that the sun doesn’t actually contain fire. Thus Solgaleo not being part Fire makes total sense, as strange as it sounds.
Actually, you bring up a good point. Doesn’t the sun produce a lot of heavy metals (around the atomic # for iron, iirc)? If that’s the case, then it makes sense that it’d be a steel type.
It does.
Here’s a theory that’s making the rounds on reddit… Lillysandre..?
http://i.imgur.com/9xNOncL.png
Hmmm…. This could be true, but I don’t think a connection will be revealed until later. Like the connection between Cynthia and Caitlin.
What is this connection?
They knew each other somehow, this was revealed in the anime.
Mind=F*CKING WRECKED
#BadGalsOnly
I’m telling you, Lillie looks like she is from Kalos. LOOK AT HER CLOTHES!!!!
I think she will definitely be connected to some kind of important plot that has to do with Kalos. It has to be. Masuda even hinted at this!!!!
All these flower connections 🙂 I love it! (Considering I love flowers xD)
ok but i hope solgaleo and lunala are the last psychic legendaries for a while. enough is enough
So about the weird platforms on the map, I count eight. Eight gyms anyone? Maybe you have to get through the gym full of trainers and the puzzle to reach the leader, and then meet them outside.
That would be kind of cool
Hmmmmm interesting idea. Maybe Hala is a gym leader then as he also has that platform.
I’m not saying that the platform is exclusive to the leader, though, as we have images of battling Hau on that platform. I like your idea, though. What type would he be?
I don’t see eight. Mind pointing them out to me?
I’ve commented about it. I also think it’s a possibility considering how nature is an important theme in this region + from what I remember Ash had some battles outdoors in the Orange Island saga so why not have that in the games?
Does anyone know where I can find a good zoomable picture of the region map?
This is probably the highest quality image you’ll find:
http://www.pidgi.net/wiki/images/7/71/Alola_region_map_-_Pokemon_Sun_and_Moon.jpg
This map image is so freaking huge it takes a minute to resize hahaha
Thank you that’s exactly what I was looking for
Am I the only one who likes the female protagonist’s hat?
No I do 🙂
I don’t love it, but the hat is actually a flower. So now that I realized that, I like it better.
I like it actually ….some ppl just repeat wat other says without understanding.
Warning, will get into tl:dr but sorry. Tl:DR Translated Japanese clips, basically introductions and various other things. Rough translations.
I dunno if anyone has done this yet, but I’m trying to roughly translate the dialogue in the Japanese clips, just cause (although, es a rough translation mind you as I’m using all that I learned and google translate) I was bored and this kind of helps me with my Japanese, so I don’t care if I’m wrong, it helps and it’s a starting point. If someone wants to elaborate or help, that would be awesome!
I’ll start off with Lillie as she was the one who got me started on this quest.
Lille’s dialogue starts off with ‘Eh? Ah, Nice to meet you, I am called Lille’ (This I am really confident in). Then it moves on to her saying something about returning something or giving something (there’s also a comment about her as an assistant although google translate sucks) then her talking about Pokemon are being hurt and are weak but she will cheer. Maybe it’s before the first battle with Hau, due to the scenario I see in the trailer. I believe it will be translated to something like ‘I don’t like Pokemon being hurt and these ones are weak, but I will cheer you guys on!’
Kukui starts off with another introduction. The first sentence is a bit rough, but it has words like accident and introduce, but I dunno what he would be trying to say clearly. But the last two I do know, which is ‘I am Kukui! Nice to meet you!’ (different wording than Lillie’s but still the same greeting). Then it moves onto dialogue we saw before, so I’ll skip that. Then, in the fishtank scene, the first word he says is Yup, or yes, along with something about examining his Pokemon work takes him island hopping and it’s his hope/wish to encounter various Pokemon.
For Hau, the first scene is another introduction, although I’m having a hard time figuring out what orene means.But I do think it’s something like ‘Hey’, I just don’t know the exact translation. Then he says something about how each of them are having fun now, then it will be a good battle (although I don’t see the word battle, I have to assume that’s what’s being talked about since they are on the stage) Then the word on the thing I’m guessing is the usual ‘Pokemon Trainer Hau would like to battle’ and ‘Pokemon Trainer Hau sends out Popplio’ since that is normally the case, and the first line in both has ‘Pokemon Trainer Hau’
So yeah, really rough, but it’s a starting point, and I thought it would be cool to do.
Nice!
I imagine it’d be Rival Hau? We must be getting another rival if that’s not the case.
No, the Katakana on the line says ‘Pokemon Trainer Hau’ not Rival or something else.
I could be translated to Rival later, but that’s what it says on the clip, so I dunno.
I just looked up that all rivals, excluding Blue and Silver, have all been called Pokemon Trainer as their class, while Blue and SIlver were the only ones in the ‘Rival’ class. So it will be Pokemon Trainer.
Ah. I would’ve swore that Hugh was called your rival. Oh well.
I thought all of them were called Rival too, so I was confused as well, but looking back, I do remember them never being called ‘Rival’ out right.
Hau looks like Sawyer, am I the only one who noticed that? Could they be related?
According to this reddit post, (https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4mj4cj/since_everyone_seems_to_have_the_wrong_impression/)
Lillie’s lines are as follows:
“-Eh? Ah, nice to meet you. My name is Lillie.
-Although I’m only an apprentice assistant I would like to repay you somehow.
-I… don’t really like Pokemon battles, but I will cheer you on.”
Awesome 😀 I’m glad I got the idea of her lines somewhat.
I don’t know if anyone discussed this but I wonder if the PSS, Amie, and Super-training are coming back.
I don’t see why they wouldn’t
I’m sure they’ll be around. The three of them are very integral to the series now and the features are basically a must. they may not be out in th open anymore like in XY, but I’m sure in the menu there will be an option to access them.
Earthen has mentioned it once or twice. I really hope they do.
I think Solgaleo and Lunala’s abilities will do something more than be a fancy clear body/multiscale. Maybe protect them from Fire/Dark moves respectively?
Not a chance
Lunala is the only one with a defensive ability
And I honestly don’t understand why so many are pushing for a updated ability
It’s over, you know that’s their abilities and nothing more
Because they are literally a fancy clear body/multiscale. There has to be something more to them.
So is turboblaze but did that protect them from Ground, noooooo so beat it
It doesn’t make sense how Solgaleo is weak to fire and Lunala is weak to dark though.
Well, it kind of does for Lunala but I still think their abilities do more than that, considering Lunala’s ability is named shadow shield, it can protect it from the darkness?
I guess that’s why shadow shield is like multiscale? It provides somewhat of a protection…..somewhat
It’s a shield made of nightfall, doesn’t mean evil can’t try to penetrate it
We already figured it out
Solgaleo is either a dying star or a meteorite
Both are extraterrestrial celestial objects that at one point are filled with space metal, but I’m leaning towards the Meteorite theory as it is nothing but appraisal to its steel, Full Metal Body and Sunsteel Strike “which involves Solgaleo crashing into the opponent like a meteor” Which some meteorites contain high amounts of nickel and iron which is also produced by the sun at the end of its cycle and also the planet’s core, and then I thought of the whole devoured of the sun thing, it probably requires a carapace strong enough to withstand such heat to absorb energy
Going to have to agree with the meteorite and deviate a bit into how protein relates to energy.
Maybe Liger Zero accumulates energy like how a protein does when it binds to another protein(s), molecule(s), atom(s), etc. Sunsteel Strike could be the release of that energy (ie the 3D structure of a protein changes when it binds to something and the physical properties change due to new bonds being made and old bonds being broken resulting in a release of energy)
….Burn them all!!!!
Release the energy! I actually really like the whole Solgaleo being a meteorite.
I know it just came to me this morning and the idea is sorta spreading
GameFreak will always want to improve their games and incorporate new things. Why couldn’t they give Solgaleo and Lunala’s abilities an additional effect? Just because it wasn’t in previous games, doesn’t mean it wont be either in Sun/Moon. Think outside the box lol
For some reason I thought full metal body was a mash up of clear body and mold breaker… Hmm
Since Solgaleo absorbs solar energy (which would be categorized as fire in the pkmn universe I guess) and Lunala absorb Lunar energy, that wouldn’t surprise me one bit tbh.
I just want to point out, that I would love it if they return the gym battle rematch options. Absolutely loved that feature in Emerald.
It was in HGSS as well.
Hopefully without the schedule thing, that was awful.
I’d also like to see E4 rematches again. They were in ORAS so I think they’ll add it in in Sun/Moon too.
They really should. It was a fun feature
Hau looks like a person I would beat with a shovel
Something tells me his upbeat attitude would get on the nerves fast
And if little miss Lillie is getting a starter I unfortunately can’t get her to have Litten
Me-Popplio
Lillie-Litten because stereotype
Hau-Rowlet just fits
But She’ll end up with Rowlet and dare if I make a Twilight and Owlowiscious connection
And the Doughnut loving knucklehead with the fire cat
Who knows I’m rambling at this point
Team Popplio
FINALLY! Someone else who loves Popplio, Honestly, I dont get all the stick it receives. Its freakin adorable, and something tells me it’ll turn out a quite powerful mon.
I love the ideas I can incorporate from its bubble blowing
-Bubble Bouncing
-Bubble Rolling (Dives into the bubble as it inflates)
-Bubble slapping, knocking the bubble as a projectile
-And if can learn icy wind, Ice Balls it can ride on and absorb a single attack
Totally sounds like something Ash would do lol
So I see several farm looking plots across the region. I would guess that berry plants are going to make a return. It is a tropical region after all
I never use berries, so I would probably wont be using the patches anyway.
I like planting them, although I don’t much use them lol
I just bury evidence there
Good fertilizer
Black and White, possibly the greatest Pokemon games in terms of story, depth, lore, and characters truly redefined Pokemon from what many perceived as a children’s plaything to one that, if it wanted to, could tell a riveting tale of love, passion, and choice! Sun and Moon have many things in their favor from the sheer marketing appeal to the amount of exposure the games have had many months prior to their release! If these games do not live up to expectations, Pokemon could lose a plethora of their returning and stagnant players who only probably returned due to the 20th anniversary, the hype, and the level of publicity these games have had. I’m not going to go on and say Sun/Moon will be as groundbreaking as Black/White in terms of story/plot because we’ve had ZERO details revealed in regards to the tales of Sun/Moon, but all I’m saying is: I hope they deliver and I hope they don’t return to uninspired and non-creative writing. Pokemon has SO many talented and passionate people working everyday to provide the best in handheld games and their main goal is to make fans happy, but at the same time continue to gradually let Pokemon evolve. Thus, I have hopes for Sun/Moon and I truly, TRULY want them to deliver! 😀
I completely agree. I really want a deep and thick plot that involves all the characters and there will be so much devlopment that our minds will explode. I really love the story/lore aspect of the games, and I really hope Sun and Moon even come close to being a little like Black and White with the story.
https://youtu.be/3r1NMfSirhk
*refresh*
They obviously checked out Verlis’s vid, because they too mentioned the silhouettes of Lugia and Ho-Oh in the clouds.
I believe the first one mentions that is a one of our community but ppl make fun of him …..and I believe many of video maker take a look PJ before they did their video.
@exeledus:disqus brought up a really good point about the possibility of Sun/Moon’s central plot: what if it centers around science VS legend/religion? Mystery science, the ruins of an ancient civilization in Alola, a sun devouring beast and a moon calling creature, mysterious new form of evolution that doesn’t seem to be Mega-evolution, etc… and how flowers in certain legends and myths voice the concerns and emotions of the human race… Sooooo many possibilities it’s insane and I WANT NEW INFORMATION! 😀
NYARRGHHH TEN DAYS UNTIL E3
I can wait ten more days for my KH3, Zelda and (hopefully new) Sun/Moon info
Science be- versus religion…..OH. EM. GEE!
Alright everyone, I’m back with another map of Alola. This time, I have a better outlook of the possible routes. Color changes indicate a different path.
http://i.imgur.com/9rc7wTg.jpg
There seems to be some linearity in the first, third, and fourth islands; The second one remains more ambiguous. It was kind hard to find all the connections on it, because some parts looked like forest/cave entrances/exits, but not always.
one thing that bothers me is the snowy looking mountain lol, least favorite part of dppt, snowpoint city and the cave to get there
I just hated how the snow made you walk slow lol
this is interesting. ill be honest i want to get away from kalos lol because clearly azoth and az are related i think in some way or another and az is kalos and all that. as for the whole thing with solgaleo and lunaala. i dont think theres anything wrong with being confused or annoyed with the typings. the legendaries in pokemon games are sorta like the mascots of each game. rse dealt with earth air and the sea. groudon kyogre and rayquaza play these roles, they are the legendaries of the games, the mascots, and they fit the games’ theme. and others are like this too. diamon and pearl, dialga and palkia are diamond and pearl and also space and time theme. gen 7 in sun and moon, the legends are solgaleo and lunaala, they are on the boxes which makes them the mascots of the games and they fit the theme of sun and moon. sol = sun, luna= moon. im surprised sol didnt get fire, but at the same time, the moon and tides and we didnt get a water lunaala but fire and water again? no thanks. but my point is, the typings to me are strange and come on, solgaleo which is the sun (sunne, the e bothers me) pokemon and didnt get fire but instead is weak to it? and lunaala, being weak to dark 4x when its the moon (moone) pokemon? the moon is out at night when its dark. its odd to me. sorry for this being too long 🙂