Pokémon Sun & Moon: A visit to Azoth? — Discussion

NOTE: This article is purely speculative and should be treated as such. It is not fact!

With the release of the latest round of Pokémon news, we’ve got an excellent look at (some of) the Alola Region in Sun & Moon. The archipelago seems to contain a number of great locations for trainers to visit and discover new Pokémon in, but one place in particular has caught our attention…

Visit to Azoth

This walled location one the regions south-east — and largest — region… Could is be the Azoth Kingdom? Azoth is said to be a mechanical fortress town, where Magearna was created 500 years ago. There’s not a huge amount to go on here, but the location certainly could pass as a “mechanical fortress”! This would also mean that the upcoming movie could be set in the Alola region, where Azoth is found (see below for screenshots of what we believe to be Azoth in the movie).

Readers can expect a full speculation article and a video taking a closer look at some of the points of interest on the Alola region map in the coming days! For now though, we want you to discuss whether or not you think this could be the mechanical kingdom of Azoth and what this could mean for trainers in Sun & Moon!

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281 thoughts on “Pokémon Sun & Moon: A visit to Azoth? — Discussion”

  1. No because then that implies that Ash and co. are in the Alola region in the movie, which makes absolutely no sense. I get that the movies have their differences compared to the games, but the same city in two different regions? Nah. It may have relevance, but in no way is it Azoth.

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  2. Azoth is mentioned in the game cannon and the above map does resemble the shots of Azoth as seen in the movie. https://youtu.be/nkQUuhfvdjU

    The only issue is the idea that the tv show characters are already in Alola when this movie is out. Then again, they’re not exactly sticklers for continuity in the anime so they could just gloss over it.

    I’m pretty convinced they’re once and the same at this point – regardless of potential anime issues.

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  3. I also thought about the idea, but the city in the map seems small compared to the move one… But I would like the idea to have a quest based on the movie

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  4. Kinda small for a kingdom, wouldnt you agree? The first trailer showed a port town that looks about the same size as the map. What im speculating, is that town is hiding from something in the woods, like kyurem in black and white.

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  5. The article mentions the map only being some of the region. Is this referring to post game or do people truly think this is only part of the region?

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  6. No, I seriously do doubt this theory. Ash is not in Alola as of yet. It would displace the entire region. I think that Azoth will potential stay mythical or not be completely explained. I do not think we’re going to Azoth in Sun & Moon. Yet, there is still a chance with Volcanion likely becoming a major part of the games.

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  7. No, they have put things in different regions just to match the setting. IE Battle Frontier was in Kanto even though in games it’s in Hoenn. Im sure it’s just one of those things. But it does make me wonder will they go to this bordered place, in the Anime, if it is Azoth.

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  8. PROJECT AZOTH File No. 1 The goal of Project AZOTH is to return the world—return everything—to the beginning. In order to further the project, we must proceed with research on Groudon’s Primal ReversionOR/Kyogre’s Primal ReversionAS. Primal Reversion is a potential of Pokémon Evolution, a potential different from Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution is made possible by the energy of people and Pokémon. Primal Reversion is made possible by natural energy. In Primal Reversion, GroudonOR/KyogreAS absorbs natural energy into its body, thereby increasing its power dramatically. Both states significantly enhance Pokémon’s power: the difference lies in the source of the required energy.”
    “PROJECT AZOTH File No. 2 We intend to analyze the power of the ultimate weapon used in Kalos 3,000 years ago and work on the development of a drill weapon utilizing the technology. The Seafloor Cavern is sealed by the power of a Legendary Pokémon. The only way to gain access to the cavern is to break the seal with power that exceeds that of the Pokémon. According to the report from the Petalburg recon team, Devon Corporation holds the secret of the technology of the ultimate weapon. We will dedicate all our resources to obtain this technology.”

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  9. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go with a Zorua/Zoroark event where to take Event Pokemon and bring it the site where Magearna is

    But in order to have this all flow nicely into the region, I want to say time capsule or dormant escape pod containing the Artificial Pokemon

    But let me go even further then just a simple trade up and acquire
    I want this to be a nice long side-quest, Like movie Pokemon-bring to special NPC-NPC tells of an area related to the Movie Pokemon-Find area and contains a map to find an item-go to place to find key item-item unlocks a dormant pod-Magearna appears-reacts to the movie Pokemon and agrees to join you

    I know it’s a stretch but honestly I grow tired of just getting the event poke without nary any work other than having the key item

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  10. Wow didn’t think about this…..I’m sure if it’s anything like the Azoth kingdom in the movie it’ll be more in the spirit of it than the actual place. Either way I’m loving how it looks like it’s from Attack on Titan lol

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      • yes I did intend to suggest the AZ AZoth in my original message. But you like fairy types, and more importantly gardevoir ( I wanted it to be broken in pokken but its not 🙁 )

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  11. I must say, the artists that do the map have really improved. Look at the Kalos map, and then look at Alola. It’s crazy how detailed the map is.

    Kalos seems so empty compared to Alola!!

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    • Eh. Whilst I agree that the artwork of Alola is wayyyy better than
      anything from the past, I think the emptiness of Kalos can largely be
      attributed to conceptually different art styles. The Unova and Kalos map
      art was quite minimalist, showing only key buildings. I remember when the Unova map was first revealed – a lot of people were
      confused as to where all the buildings were, some theorising we’d have a very different game. Compare this to Johto artwork from HGSS (or even ORAS artwork for Hoenn) where essentially all buildings are accounted for within the artwork.

      Edit: I had image links but they were failing and I don’t know how to fix it lol >.< (oh lol – some of them posted haha)

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  12. Hey i believe that if “marshadow” is real it will probably be a legendary pokemon encountered on the platform near the swamp on the big island

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  13. I would Love that .. I don’t think we’ve Ever had such a dedicated movie location in game before. Which adds to my doubt.. especially because it would be odd for them to join Super far away then back.. but who knows

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  14. What do you think about Solgaleo and Lunala’s competetive viablity? Lunala looks amazing in battle, glistening blue… But 4 times weakness to Ghost and dark.. Maybe it has a move like ‘Shining sky’ which makes them immunities… One can hope…. But it also has 2 immunities and resistances, so if you just keep it away from Ghosts and darks I think it’s okay right? Also Shadowshield is different to multiscale isn’t it, because it protects both from special and defensive attacks?

    Then Solgaleo has one of the best defensive typings there is!

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    • Multiscale protects from all attacks too, so far it’s ability is estienally the same,But I don’t think Lunala will be as viable as Sungaleo. Sungaleo seems pretty good for Ubers, idk for Lunala

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          • is it though? it can stab super effective hit ghost types, psychic types, fighting types and poison types.

          • Don’t forget Roost and Shadowshield
            As many stated if invested defensively one can bulk up and tap into recovery to reactivate Shadowshield

            Also I don’t anyone said it might have access to Cosmic Power

    • All tea all shade, lunala is such a mess. good defensive abilty but with terrible defensive typing so messy!!

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      • I mean to be honest it’s only 2 weaknesses… If someone sends out a wash rotom to my infernape, I’m gunna switch out anyway ( which, as a ghost, lunala can do, mean look shadow tag etc, won’t work) But it can switch into focus blasts and poison jabs…..

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  15. Also regarding this being Azoth I don’t see it, the inside city looks very different to the castley look of Azoth’s buildings

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  16. ~ Solgaleo, the beast who devours the sun… maybe he’ll devour the sun in the Pokemon games and bring forth eternal darkness.
    ~ Lunala, the beast who calls forth the moon… maybe she’ll call forth the moon and bring about eternal darkness.

    Either way, both bring forth darkness, so it seems it won’t be a linear progression thing where Solgaleo does something and you need Lunala to balance it out or vice-versa. I mean, maybe the ancient people of Alola summoned the beasts and the antagonistic team is trying to summon them back, but remembering the legend(s) of what happened during the age of the ancients, your player and his friends have to stop the evil team from summoning the beasts at all costs.

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  17. Who do you think is gong to be the standout starter Pokémon? My vote is KWEEN litten. She’s obviously going to evolve into a tiger Pokemon and tigers are badass.Y’all rowlet friends better hope the regional bird isn’t amazing like staraptor or talonflame cause that can split votes not to mention grass/flying isn’t a good typing competitively. FLOPlilo only has fans because people want to be Edgy and hipster by picking the hated started like they did with chespin. And it will probably have a tragic design because I don’t know any clown Pokemon that are cool. KWEEN litten is the dark horse and will come out on top! (Rf) https://media2.giphy.com/media/14e9CpQheeH0VG/giphy.gif

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    • but then again that would mean ash would already be in the new region before the new anime starts for this gen… so maybe not

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      • That’s just a very long stretch
        Also the Azoth Kingdom and Project AZOTH
        One: the absolute fact that Movie Location are strictly non-game canon I cannot stress this enough
        Dos: as stated below Project AZOTH does in fact faintly state that it is technology used to increase the power of a Pokemon with the idea of a great energy source and a machine similar to the ultimate weapon, but we cannot truly state if this whole Magearna thing is truly linked, I mean outside the fact it’s a man-made Pokemon we know absolutely nothing about it, and I do not trust Movies to provide game factoids

        So in the meantime they are not similar….yet

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  18. I really, REALLY don’t understand the need to relate XY with Sun & Moon. I know that the Zygardes formes suggested a continuity to XY’s story, but in my opinion, these formes and the Ash-Greninja are features created for the anime. We need to remember that the anime is based on the games and sometimes it diverges from the original content (example, the baby Lugia on Whirl Islands). So, yeah, the 6th gen was X/Y/OR/AS and that’s it. The anime creates different locations, characters, badges, Pokémons as needed and that’s it.

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    • While yes, I agree that WAY too many people are pushing the whole return to Kalos and X and Y’s story will be continued in Sun and moon, I think that the Zygarde is way too big of a thing to go unnoticed in the games. It could just be a simple event and it’s over. But eventually we will have to receive Zygarde.

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      • We think that the new forms are big because this is the first time the anime created a Pokémon for it, right. It’s in our brains, as a tradition passed through generations, the only media that introduce new Pokémon are the games. But, and it’s a theory of mine, the anime is “inovating” to get more audience in general, the lost audience. The anime was always dependent on the game release cycles to get new fuel, and they are breaking the mold. They created forms (not original Pokémons) for the anime, as the manga merged Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres or made a Eevee that can shift on its 3 original evolutions.

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        • I see what you mean. But I still have some kind of gut feeling that we have Zygarde in the next games (probably just an event). It just seems to complicated to be anime exclusive.

          But, the reason why right now they are focusing on it in the anime is because, like you said, anyone who is interested in the games will look towards the anime to find out the secrets of Zygarde’s formes.

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          • I would like to add that the Zygarde forms do appear in-game… in Pokemon Shuffle (that counts, right? right?). Ash-Greninja appears too though lol.

  19. GUYS. GUYS. I HAVE A THEORY. You know lillie?

    You know what seems odd about her?

    She doesn’t look native to Alola. Somethin’ seem strange about her attire? Yah, it looks like something straight out of Kalos.

    Could she have come from the Kalos region and is in Alola for some kind of purpose? Or am I going insane from hype?

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