SPOILERS?! This is a rumor post, but because this is based on what was dug up from official sources and not typical online hearsay, we’re warning you now: this could reveal new information.
YouTuber pdwinnall has discovered that the Japanese Pokémon mini-site for Sun & Moon contains extra icons for types that identify the starters. You can watch the video above to see exactly how it works, but essentially there are six images for the types:
- Grass (Rowlet, type 1)
- Flying (Rowlet, type 2)
- Ground (???)
- Fire (Litten)
- Water (Popplio)
- Fighting (???)
SUSPICIOUS, eh? The YouTuber hypothesizes that Rowlet’s family will remain Grass/Flying, Litten’s will end up Fire/Ground (oops, fixed: thanks CaH) and Popplio’s family will wind up Water/Fighting. Although I agree with Popplio ending up Water/Fighting, I’m not sold on the idea that we’ll get a Fire/Ground combo; you’ll notice that icon3 is ground and it comes before fire, not after. There’s a possibility that GameFreak has gone the trolling route and will ultimately make Rowlet’s evolution Grass/Ground. As you can see to the right, photo courtesy of Beth Ruggiero, burrowing owls exist and would make sense. If that were the case we’d have a pure Fire-type line with Litten.
Now all that’s left is for us to hear your comments and tell us what you think about all this!
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I think you mean Litten will end up fire/ground, not fire/fighting. Also, I am not sold on the burrowing owl theory. If they wanted to do that, just make it grass/ground from the start. There’s no reason to drastically change the typing like that.
starters progress in weird ways most of the time, often changing subspecies entirely
starting with grass/flying to compliment flying moves all bird pokemon learn early, then losing the typing as its body type changes into something more significant, does not seem too farfetch’d for me – skrelp to dragalge, for instance
Water and Dragon aren’t what I’d call opposites. Flying and Ground in fact are, so I don’t think Rowlet will change that drastically.
didn’t say they were opposites! just that “losing the typing as its body type changes into something more significant, does not seem too farfetch’d for me.” if rowlet becomes too large to fly, its wings do not increase in size as it grows, its body becomes shaped to dig more than to navigate aerially, it could lose the typing. another example of this idea is drapion losing bug for dark. it is still very much a bug, but ‘dark’ was considered more interesting and more significant by game freak.
I know you didn’t say that, but I don’t believe a starter changing this drastically to a typing completely opposite to its initial typing.
Nincada –> Ninjask says hi
Not a starter 🙂
i knew from the first second i saw rowlet being a flying type that they would troll us, now that i know burrowing owls exist and ground types match perfectly with rowlet’s colors, even the types were found on the official site. Ha, i know this is real… it just has to be. but people does not want to believe it
Coconut? As its falling it’s in the air then hits the ground…nah too simple
don’t think these actually apply to starters, since starter evos are always revealed and thus added to the site much later
these could apply to the legend (pure flying lunaala? fire/fighting or ground/fire solgaleo?) or to other unrevealed pokemon that we’ll see by this time next month
i mean, it’s not impossible, they could’ve decided to do this now, but i wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed in any way
Yeah these icons WILL be used on this site and WILL be applied to the starter’s page I mean stop trying to kid yourselves, the very second we saw them grouped with Grass Fire and Water they are infinitely bound to the starters, and a even stronger jumping point since it says Grass/Flying since that is Rowlet’s typing
they’re labeled Partner types 01-06 so it’s going to happen sooner or later
But hey we could be wrong,nor you could start accepting it
they are not labelled partner or starter types 01 to 06, they are simply sorted under a broad /pokemon/ file on the site for use on any pokemon page on the jp sun/moon site.
it does not make sense to add the starter’s types when the starters will not be added to the site for some time to come — why prepare so far ahead when types will constantly be added, sorted 07 and onwards, as more pokemon are revealed? it makes sense to upload only that which will be applied soon
I’m so tired of starters being part Fighting type :/
Fighting is basically a starter type along with the main three. More generations have it than not
At this point it should be a standard starter type yeah lol. We’ve had 4 generations in a row with starters being part fighting. It would be a nice breath of fresh if we didnt get any starter that is part fighting for once.
I love it, Physical, Extremely useful leveling type, overall awesome
Combusken Double-Kick, Monferno Mach Punch and Pignite Arm Thrust all extremely useful attacks early
Ground is good but honestly they don’t give Statters decent Ground leveling attacks, I’d lose it if they made a new low damaging Ground attack that isn’t Mud Shot or Mud-Bomb
Bulldoze would be fine but I think it might be a little too op for beginners
True its a useful type, I’m just getting bored with it. Are you gunna pick Rowlett over Popplio since it might be part Ground type?
Nah I’m still loyal to Popplio
But I will use anything Ground native to Alola in my Moon Ground Mono
Ground <3
I agree. Fire/fighting especially has been overused over the years. A water/fighting type might be interesting, though.
After some thinking, i am ok if rowlet became grass ground, its a pretty cool type combo. Torterra had the same type but since it was so slow, it couldnt barely utilize it well. But if rowlett is a speedy physical attacker it could be very nice. Leaf blade and earthquake are pretty cool. I would also be ok with fire ground, since fire ground is on the type of a below average become litten could utilize this very well. So i am ok with ground type starter. Lol still dont care for popplio it can get anytype it wants.
But hey maybe these leaks arent applying to starters they could be to something else, they could also just not be real. It really depends how much you it to be real on how viable this leak is.
Yeah, as much as I hated it at first, I’ll still stay with Rowlet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Rowlet became Grass-Ground. this is the Cuban giant owl. it lived on my island millennia ago (became extinct before humans settled). It ran on its huge legs like a mini-ostrich, probably hunting rodents. Birds in islands tend to get big and become flightless (NZ’s kiwi, New Caledonian kagu, Madagascar elephant bird). I think Rowlet’s typing is meant to be misleading. Torchic didn’t end up Fire-Flying. And Piplup didn’t become Water-Ice nor Water-Flying. Let’s be real, Rowlet is only going to get bigger and heavier, so Grass-Ground makes sense. A pity it’d be a copy of Torterra’s typing, but oh well…
Also worth noting: people have said Litten’s head markings are the alchemic symbol for sulphur. Volcanoes contain sulphur/compounds of sulphur. Fire + Ground = Volcano.
Nice.
I’ve been saying that for a while
Fire/Ground isn’t the end of the world, it will be a gigantic obsidian tiger with glowing lava stripes that burn through everything, the more heat generated by its internal magma the stronger and faster it is,
That sounds amazing! I like the fire/ground typing because you only have a 4x water, and a 2x ground weakness.
Primal Groudon has similar typing.
Fair enough. Personally I would have loved fire/poison, simply because its a type combination we haven’t seen yet
With the movie revealing mystery science, I can see how GF may have utilized alchemy for Litten
I really want their typings to be something they haven’t done yet (like electric or rock), so I’m going to deny this until proven official.
Well Rowlet is grass/flying so
Litten I would love to end up fire/poison
Popplio is a sea lion, so big chances on water/ice but it’ll probably be water/fighting. Personally I’m hoping water/fairy, because of the pink nose lol.
THIS IS WHY I HATE FAIRIES
See one tiny scrap of pink cuteness and auto-fairy,
It’s like razor blades churning in my gut
Can’t deny dem Fairy’s are powerful bruh 😛
Only because they give them everything
Mawile would still be crap without Huge Power, Gardevoir and Sylveon Spaming Hyper Voice
And well Togekiss and Azumarill were pretty annoying before this but still annoying as f*ck to fight
But hope we see Fairy Types die out this generation, no more special treatment from now on
You gotta accept they’re here and they’re not leaving 🙂
But I can still loathe them every day of the year
Hell I might even breed a pure Anti-Fairy team that can counter them all
Hopefully a few Poison/Steel types in gen 7 then 😉
Since it’s an odd number we’re going to get a pure poison blob
But Poison/Steel Trashcan Pokemon!!! Wastenaut and Garbarge
Everyone knows you hate fairies…
Anti-Fairy consists of steel and poison. A fire user can sweep you(the irony)
Agreed that they are too powerful, but they were necessary to mitigate the domination of Dragon types.
They became the new meta
Along with stalling
How would Electric even fit these guys?
A fast Tiger leaving lightning bolts as it runs? I don’t know, GF has done more that surprises us. Those typings were just examples. I just don’t want three secondary typings that have been used before.
It be easier to make Tiger Onis but that’s a hard sell since Electabuzz has that niche
Otherwise Fire/Electric Tiger is incompatible
So is a Water/Steel-type penguin, but Game Freak is creative like that. A Fire/Electric-type would be great.
Cheetah. I have been saying that for a long time.
I’m still probably staying with Rowlett.
I kinda wish the starters would have been
Grass Flying
Fire Poison
Water Psychic
That’s just my opinion I liked that but I’ll be happy with whatever we get.
Water/Psychic isn’t too far off since we only have Starmie and Slowpoke’s line
But the Water Fighting Clown Acrobatic pleases me more
If they do Water Fighting well I have no issue sure everyone thought dewott would be water fighting and I was pumped for that .. Then we got solid water haha.
I’m hoping for that as well. I’m pretty tired of seeing starters with fighting as its secondary type. There are 18 types and they insist on using fighting over and over
They just know it’s the best
Another thing to consider is the Stilt-Owl, an extinct genus of flightless owl native to the Hawaiian Islands. This could also connect to the whole circus theme with stilt-walkers and such. They could combine that with a burrowing owl as well, just to drive the “Ground” theme along!
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Well the news spreads by the day
But now the buzz is dying (But Butthurt all time high)
Well I’m bored, Might start Spirit Tracks until the 19th when the Fallout DLC drops then squeeze every drip of content out of that until something else captures my short attention span
Any suggestions?
Have you seen this?
That Popplio evo is the stuff of nightmares xD
That’s probably why i like it so much xD
Truly repulsive.
Understatement. Somewhat of a ranting material
I like Litten’s evo and Rowlet’s isn’t too bad, but I think I might have nightmares for the rest of my life thanks to that Popplio evo………..lol
Ew
The Litten one looks lit-git. Rowlet doesn’t feel like Pokémon. Can we name Popplio “It”?
I feel these are not real, since they’re semi terrifying
No. Just no. Just no. Okay?
They look GREAT as far as drawings come, but hell no as the starter’s final evolution.
I would love them to have them as the final evo’s !
I honestly can’t see Rowlet changing types…..I’ve said this before and because this is now technically the proper article I’ll say it again lol The starter Pokemon are meant to be the most accessible Pokemon in the games. They may change other Pokemon types based on theme or lore, but the starters need to be the constant in the games. GF wouldn’t want to do anything to screw over their target audience (children ages ranging from very young to moderately older) and changing Rowlet would in some ways do that. Younger audiences aren’t going to put two and two together necessarily and realize that it changes typing. The starters aren’t up for that kind of experimentation. If they wanted Rowlet to become part ground type they would have left it as just grass for now.
I disagree. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I can’t help but feel that Rowlet will lose its Flying-typing. It might end up looking like a kakapo. The starters don’t need to be constant for the kiddies when they are plenty of other Pokémon who lose a typing and gain another. Younger audiences are getting smarter by the decades; they’re not incompetent. I’m sure we’ve all seen little 5 year olds using tablets. A starter Pokémon changing/losing it’s type would not phase them. Plus, they’re not the ones who take this game seriously. It’s the young adults who do, and we’d love that shit.
Then why even bother giving it the flying type at all? Early in the game it doesn’t really matter whether you have that typing. If they were gonna give it a ground typing why not just leave it grass and be done with it until it evolves? Whether the children can comprehend the change I will admit is irrelevant. It just doesn’t make any sense for the starter Pokemon in particular to have it’s typing changed in such a way.
Game Freak changes the types because of the Pokémon adapting upon evolution. Some examples are Fletchling losing its Normal-typing as it changes into the Fire-type Fletchinder. Nincada loses its Ground-type but gains Flying-type as it evolves into Ninjask and Nincada’s left behind shell gains a Ghost-typing as Shedinja. Skrelp loses its Water-typing but gains a powerful Dragon-typing as it becomes Dragalge. It’s evolutionary, my dear~!
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I never played. Banjo Kazooie
Thats just criminal…
Didn’t have the console, couldn’t afford it.
Well sorry Garret I’m going to have to eradicate you
Hey I never played it either yet I funded the kickstarter and can’t wait for it… Now whether that makes me dedicated or just stupid I don’t know…
This leak is pretty major…..
Total fairy world domination 2k16!! Seriously though I hope we get tons of fairies this gen >: )
No.
Yes Meghan trainor! Yes! Preferable a cute ghost/fairy because those are my two fav types ;P
I have nothing against fairy types, but I hate fairies
In fact Azumarill is a pokemon I really like.
Aw, how come? I have an obsession with them (except mr.mime) I even have them all as legit shinies
One reason. Just one. Try and guess
Idk you saw them and died from the cuteness? ;P jk idk
I LOVE DRAGONS AND MEGA SCEPTILE
I love dragons too, they were my favourite type until gen 5, which is why m altaria I use so much, dragons are the bomb.com
How can fairies beat dragons? It does not make sense. Gamefreak wanted to balance the typing and bring Dragon back to ground but in the process they made fairy type OP
Because just because something looks strong doesn’t mean it is, and just because something looks weak doesn’t mean it’s not strong. I thing fairy is the perfect type to oppose dragons they’re made of magic and whimsie ^_^
whimsie?
Yes, as in whimsical
Whimsical means always acting as one pleases and not caring about others. I think you mean to say soft or someting like that( I hope I don’t sound like a complete nerd)
ive never heard that as being a deffinition of whimsical… That’s not what it means, unless there’s another use for the word that I didn’t know about
you know what actually you are correct, that is one of the definitions of whimsical but not the only one. The way i was using was more suited to the definition as being “fantastic, unusual, quaint and mysterious” I suppose I could have used a word that was more understandable to what I meant such as enchanting, eccentric, or even just said they’re cute with mysterious qualities. However in my first post I did misspell Whimsy which may have been why it may have not been seen as meaning, anything odd or fanciful or rather a product of playful capriciousness.
That’s the def. It came in my English lesson last year
Sceptile is hands down my #1 favourite Pokémon
You my buddy
Barf
Ground Types are better
I don’t hate fairies but they are too OP. They need another weakness. It’s the new Dragon and unbalanced.
That is right. Pixies shalt not have six-back abs and bazooka barell biceps
The only time I can beat them is when I have a Fire Type like Camerupt or the rare occasion they don’t out speed my steel type
I like Camerupt, but it’s really slow. I prefer Skarmory to kill fairies
I run Trick Room a lot. (after You also helps if you play it right)
Ohhhhhhhhhhh. Niiice. 🙂
I don’t believe in Pokemon being op or weak, it all depends on your battle abilities and strad
Not Pokemon. Type
It’s not the Pokémon, it’s the typing. Most of them are bulky but you can’t do anything to them because theyre only weak to two unusual typing that they typically out speed.
I guess I just don’t see it, maybe because even my fully trained mono-fairy team only wins like half the time, online battles always are like a game of Rock Paper Scissors to me (and yes I train them well) 😛
Really? You can’t deny that some Pokemon are really strong compared to others.
Yeah like legends are which is why I don’t use them ever, but outside that I’m still gunna kill things with a sunflora if I have to because i want to 😛
Once in a Link Battle a guy used Mega Mewtwo against me….
Honestly I never pick Pokemon on stats just weather or not I like them and then I make them work on way or another
I agree the only op pokemon (not including legends) is mega kangaskhan. Everything else is not op just some things are more tedious than others
BST 601+ legends are obviously are strong but theyre legends. All the other legends that are bst 600 or below arent op at all
Holy sh*t mega kangaskhan I forgot about Satans spawn 😛
Oooh I forgot about Mega Kangaskhan. That’s another good counter to Fairies.
Weakness to ice!
That or fire. Ice needs a buff
Ice types need a serious buff. I dunno why GameFreak keep making defensive Ice types lol when it’s clearly a offensive type. I hope they remove bug resistances on Fairy types too.
Since it’s a new Gen they’ll redistribute stats and adjust everything. I just hope they dont ignore types like ice this time.
I doubt it pokemon rarely ever updates types and do buffs and nerfs
They adjust at least one type, raise or lower stats, and change move pools every Gen. Not to every single Pokemon but they do. That’s why Nidos started seeing use in Gen 6.
True, we can still hope tho. They should least address Fairy types cause they are too strong offensively and defensively.
Usually when I lose on BS there’s a Sylveon or Mega Gardevoir. Too bulky and offensive
Dat Pixaliate Hyper Voice ain’t no joke.
It isn’t at all.
Try pixelate trump card Sylveon holding a metronome 😉 hehe
Try Metronome Hyper Beam Sylveon paired with a Parafusion or Spore spreading Poke in doubles.
There might be a lot of water types though..
I hope so.
We don’t need water types, they can just put the hoenn ones.
DIE FAIRY
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I’ll take all the iron nuggets I can find and fire them in the holes in my palms
Well that was unexpected lol….
I rooted for team Aqua back in the day too so I bet that makes it even worse eh? ;P
Nono that’s fine. Hoenn husband is king
Well they are my favourite evil team ;P
*Cracks Knuckles*
Any body have Solgaleo number ?……..just till him to reduce the volume of the sun ….day from hell.
I really wished for that Fire-Electric Cheetah…..
NOOOOO PLEASE DONT STAY PURE FIRE LITTEN!!!!
That’s better than fire -ground though.
It’s strange that the Ground is before Fire…
that’s because the ground is the second typing of rowlet’s final evo I guess
That is what I said earlier. But, does that mean Fighting is added to Popplio’s second stage?
that’s not certain, just like everything else. The only thing that’s most likely true is that the final Popplio version will end up being water fighting
Plot twist: triple typings will be introduced and Rowlet will be Grass/Flying/Ground and Litten will only be Fire and Popplio will be Water/Fighting/404
404 op pls nerf
Now strong against all types and takes no damage from the rest
8X effective and immune to all types
Popplio stage 2, also known as Satan.
Magic Bounce
Maybe they are just new Pokemon to be announced. IDK, I feel I’m the only one who doesn’t give a damn about starter types.
I don’t care. I’m just sick of people complaining about another fighting starter and a bird that becomes a ground type.
Seriously, at the end of a day, it’s still a children’s game
You’re not, idc either but that’s because I usually ditch my starter after the first gym (except totodile, love that little gator) but I may keep rowlet around this time around but it could become whatever type idc lol
Typing is half of the game.. . Unless you never play competitive. Plus it’s all we have to speculate on right now. So I understand personally
Is no one else wondering what kind of fossil Pokémon we’ll get this generation? I’m hoping to finally get a Rock/Ice-type sabertooth tiger Pokémon. Might not happen, but I want it!
I fish fossil would be cool too, like a prehistoric fish
https://media.giphy.com/media/eweH6VrG8Zt84/giphy.gif
Righttttt forgot about that 😛
Relicanth, the Longevity Pokémon.
(~.^)b
Lol. .. Dreams Do come true!
Well this isn’t exacty a fish fossil tbf, just a living fossil. Getting something along the lines of Dunkleosteus (pokémon sage’s interpretation is pretty cool) or Eusthenopteron or something would be amazing and should happen someday.
Yes. I really want a Rock/Electric type or a Rock/Ghost or Dark.
I love the Rock/Ghost idea. Would also love to see a Rock/Poison, but I have no idea what kind of fossil that would be.
EDIT: I thought maybe a frilled dinosaur or a predecessor of a platypus.
Prehistoric porcupine
From the Fakemon game Pokémon Sage – Cubzero and its evolved form Avalynx.
If Popplio grows legs, I will SCREAM at Junichi Masuda and Ken Sugimori! They were probably drunk as skunks when thinking up the final typings for these three, if this is to be true, which I’m 99.8% sure it is true. Knowing Game Freak’s very poor track record to keep information hidden from fans. Remember the ORAS Demo?
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Wow this one is beautiful!
It looks elegantly strong and majestically ferocious.
I like it but it looks like a Digimon.
Yeah, it’s a little bit ugly.
I love that!
This looks like what oshawott should have been
It’s not standing on two legs, I’ll take it! It is a little ugly though in the face, no offense (I know it’s obviously fake). Basically, at this point, I’ll take any Popplio design that doesn’t stand on two legs.
Sorry but I don’t think it’s at all ugly, in fact I quite love this design, and if Popplio’s final form even remotely looks like this, then that will be its saving grace in my eye’s, because I happen to think that Popplio’s design, is kinda on the ugly side itself. 🙁 (if it didn’t have that ridiculously huge nose, I would probably love it. LOL )
But I liked the one other fakemon design idea for his final evo, so if it looks like that it would be fin too.
Fighting type doesn’t mean growing legs
All Fighting types have legs or rather, stand on twos, minus Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizon, and Keldeo. The chance of it growing legs I’d say is about a 80% chance.
Sea lions walk on their flippers
That’s the one saving grace in all this. Which is why I’m giving it about a 20% chance of Ken Sugimori not fucking him up.
..
Noooooo
Well, we know it’s not THAT one…
But man I’m SO MAD! Thanks Game Freak for not protecting your shit! You exposed the final typings of the Starters! WELL before release! It’s a new record!