Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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What up people
The clouds.
And hi!
Fairy Pokemon are quickly displacing Dragon-type Pokemon as one of the most powerful and annoying Pokemon out there. I do think Dragon-type Pokemon need a way to deal with Fairies, in not such a way that they’ll be instantly converted back to uber status but at least be able to go head on with the Clan…
Joking, lol!
YES! We prevail! Us fairies harness the power of the moon and shine ^_^
I’m a traitor to the Fairy Type. I use STAB Iron Head to destroy all the fairies. >:D
LMFAOOOOOOOOO AS DO I! My Aegislash’s Flash Cannon ruins them!
I just don’t understand why Fighting Types need another weakness
I don’t understand why either.
Fairy is the new Psychic
We some bad bishes.
It was bad enough
Always carry a Rock and a Dark type move
but now a Steel or Poison type move for then damn fairies
Fairy needs one more weakness, or Poison types need a boost.
I think they should be weak to Fire
I can see their magic just be easily burnt up
We should have a Psychic type move that’s super effective against Fairies!
To make up for the false rumor that Psychic would resist Fairy.
Speculation time! (Thanks Heavy I owe you!)
So, you know how no pokemon that evolve with evolutionary stones got a mega evolution in X and Y?
What if that plays a role in Z somehow?
Zygardes pokedex entry in X and It’s entry and Y state:
X When the Kalos region’s ecosystem falls into disarray, it appears and reveals its secret power.
Y It’s hypothesized that it’s monitoring those who destroy the ecosystem from deep in the cave where it lives.
What if, in order to help the ecosystem of the Kalos Region, it draws in the power of the evolutionary stones to create a secret energy that (Neo) Team Flare wants to steal to create the Zygardenite?
And then all of the excess energy could flow back into the Kalos Region, entering multiple evolutionary stones, causing a reaction of the stone to split into two; the stone and a mega stone?
This could reveal multiple mega evolutions for stone-evolution pokemon, such as Raichu (which should be Electric/Fairy!)!
Another speculation could be that (Neo) Team Flare is trying to take energy from Zygarde to form new mega stones from evolutionary stones!
But hey that’s just a theory.
A GAME THEORY.
-1100000000/10 last line ruined it
That’s all you read
I read everything, I enjoyed all of it until the last two sentences.
I read it all and loved it. It was a little complex for Pokemon but it came together well for me in the end.
LMFAO WHILE THIS COMMENT WAS EXTREMELY FUNNY, I actually enjoyed the last line. That is totally plot worthy. I can imagine someone trying to make new mega stones.
I like those ideas! 😀
AND GAME THEORY! 😀
But Mega Stones are said to naturally contain the DNA of specific Pokemon and somehow resonate with the heart or some crap like that
So, a Mega for every stone evolution Pokémon out there?
Won’t happen lol. Too many.
Logical Weaknesses for Fairy-type:
Steel, steel burns fairies in ancient lore
Poison, although most fairies do have the ability to purify a polluted atmosphere, it is with no means that many fairies in today’s tales are weak to pollution, just look at Storm (sorry, I just had to poke at her as the anime adaptation converted her into an E-Class hero)
Fairy, many fairies are competitive, evil, and sly creatures who can muster pleasure in one’s struggles
I still say they should be weak to fire
Ever hear the spell Mana Burn?
Fairies are capable of putting out fires. In Japanese lore, many fairies are depicted as guardians who protect whole villages from disasters, such as fire.
Not if i burn them first!
Yep! In lore, it it stated that people would hang horse shoes (since they’re made of iron) on their doors to ward off fairies. (I’m like ‘huh? I want fairies in my home who would want to get rid of them?)
They’ll steal your stuff
cause mischief
cast tricky spells
they’re just like Crickets, nice to hear but you don’t want to have them in your house
ROTLMFAO I LOVE THE CRICKET COMPARISON
I had a cricket in my basement for TWO WEEKS NEVER SHUTTING UP
AND IT HID ITSELF IN THE RADIATOR AND I COULDN’T KILL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want a new Psychic type move that’s super-effective against fairies. The reason behind it would be that the move can manipulate a fairiy’s mind thus making it believe that it doesn’t exist.
Makes me think of Maleficent. As a child, I thought she was a sorceress, but she’s actually a fairy. Plus, in the movie with the same name, **SPOILER ALERT** (maybe)
She is shown that iron burns her skin.
WOW! Mindblown.
Sometime in the future I want a Mega Rapidash that’s
Fire/Flying with Aerilate (based on pegasus).
Quick Attack & Double-Edge turned Flying Type with an added 30% boost would make Rapidash extremely great.
My set:
Flare Blitz
Quick Attack/Double Edge
Poison Jab
Wild Charge
I didn’t know it could learn Poison Jab!
Me either. I just had a look at its move set though and screamed lol! Might train my shiny ponyta soon.
Nice! I also didn’t know that Greninja could learn Toxic Spikes until I read this article. Is there any move this Ninja Frog can’t learn?!?! XD
Ahhh my shiny froakie has toxic spikes XD
Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, All other signature moves, Fire Pledge, Grass Pledge, etc.
Dude it can stab you with its horn
or just buck you with its hind legs glowing purple
LMFAO IAN I LOVE YOU ^_^
You make things so intense!
You should see the things i’ve drawn
a Sewer Beast that intakes raw sewage and spews it
a Raging Eurthataur
a Plant women with long vines for hairadorn with thorns (Floria)
Some kind of Gluttonous Oni
a Glatigator
What about Thrash?
I remember seeing a really good Pegasus Rapidash that was named something Ophegasus
Extreme-Speed Mega-Rapidash would be amazing!
Imagine Primal Rayquaza gets Aerilate. Most broken Mixed sweeper ever. Extremespeed & Hyperbeam turned flying with a 30% boost. GG!!!
And it becomes Pure Flying because I’m tired of having so many dragons being x4 weak to Ice.
Game Freak is so sneaky. Not giving SEP (Stone Evolution Pokémon) Megas, thus causing great speculation among fans.
We just love speculation 😉
???, Fairy/Ghost
שד (Shed) Pokemon
“Such an evil Pokemon, this Pokemon is known as the Original Evil. Many believe it stemmed from Arceus’ shadow.”
Igneous drew an extremely amazing Fairy/Ghost Pokemon for the JadeJungle game. You HAVE to see it. I’m sure someone has it.
http://i.imgur.com/n0b3Tjl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TucBwFf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kdVF53T.jpg
:3
LOVE THE LAST ONE!! And, thanks!
Ladies and Gentleman (and whatever the heck Djja is)
Mega Rapidash
http://oi39.tinypic.com/35alp4z.jpg
I’m a boy, lad.
No, go to the Lilycove Department Store.
Jeez, I get here at the perfect moments, don’t I? XD
No
Yes bby <3
Jk yes u do :3
Ehhhhhhhh i’m not buying it
Buy it at the lily cove department store! 😀
Well, you do love May. Oh wait. Everybody does.
^^^^^^
THIISSS
I read an article that says the development team of Splatoon is taken from the core Animal Crossing team. That means us Nintendo fans must take it seriously, at least I know I will. Also, why didn’t they include her in Smash Bros. if they were able to get Greninja before it was even finalized in design? That would have made for a better announcement trailer than it already was.
Then they’ll do it!
I mean, we shouldn’t count it out yet, as it could be in some August Nintendo Direct with further Splatoon information.
It looks like a cool game. And up to 8 players?
What is this sorcery?!
Yeah i’m excited to play Splatoon
They pretty much decide what the roster is on day one. And that development started soon after Kid Icarus Uprising came out. Splatoon most likely began development after the roster was finalized.
I’m sure concept art has been floating around the headquarters for two years at least.
And X and Y has been in development around 4 years. Don’t even know why they’d give us a character who was just announced.
To traverse the Hoenn region once again… boy I hope there’s some Emerald-like post game content, because I loved the Battle Frontier! Battle Pike and that Pyramid were my favorite attractions!
I never had emerald so i don’t have Battle Frontier memories
Must…Battle…HOENN FRONTIER BRAINS!!!
???, Dark/Normal
Lullaby Pokemon
“The Lullaby this Pokemon plays lulls Pokemon and humans alike into an eternal slumber.”
Not bad
I like it.
So, do you guys think Mega Diancie will make an appearance in Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction?
Indubitably.
And Mega Yveltal.
Right?
I thought it was already confirmed to make an appearance after Yveltal awakens?
I wonder how Relic Song is a damaging attack that can cause the target to sleep. You’d think that being hurt would keep you awake.
It’s called boringness
My brother always questioned Magically induced sleep
I wanted to make a Dary aye aye with very large eyes
They’re going to be similar to Absol’s fate as Aye Ayes are said to bring bad luck
???, Psychic/Normal
Seeking Pokemon
“Forever this Pokemon wanders, seeking ‘something’ it is bound to never find again.”
@GovnahSkiddo:disqus Here’s your Mega Dewgong!
@movingg:disqus Here’s your Mega Quagsire!
I don’t understand how you do this.
Magic.
All artists have an arsenal of magic tools.
I can’t quite figure it out myself. My mind just random creates an image by itself and I just do what it says.
That’s excellent!
But I think Quagsire should stay as a bulky, derpy blob that he is.
Haha Ok and thanks
I absolutely love Mega Dewgong
I fell in love with the wispy ribbon like fins and adore that muzzle and beautifully spiraled tooth
but honestly i think you botched Quagsire
i feel his simplicity was his renowned feature but now he looks like an anime he-man axolotl
I did take all its simplicity away know did I? I need to work on stuff like that still I guess. *sigh
Thick Fat would work nicely for Mega Dewgong. IDK about Mega Quagsire though.
I agree
I hope you don’t have any plans for your future, because I’m drafting you for Game Freak :3
Haha But I don’t want to be in the front line but if its for my fellow American gamers, then I have no choice… haha
Can you draw mega walrein? 😀
Sure!
YAY!!! 😀
ur a great artist ……… i like mega dewgong it should be real
Thanks!
I fear that PJN will have an article with a List of Shame with the names of PJN members who have never played Hoenn. Heck, we had such a list earlier this morning!
I would not find that amusing whatsoever.
Played it like 4 times, though I played it AFTER Sinnoh.
For the longest time, I thought Meditite and Medicham were introduced in Sinnoh.
Me too, until I watched May VS the Medicham trainer.
But they were introduced in Hoenn <3! 😀
It shouldn’t really matter b/c you’ll enjoy ORAS even if you haven’t played R/S/E! :3
Ha! Who said I was a PJN member!
…
D:
You were an anon. You could go back to anon form for the time being :3
Anonymous Zekrom Form confirmed.
Anonymoose Evolution confurmmedddd
Anonymous Form Pokémon have a random type every
battleturn and you won’t know until you hit it with a super effective move.Actually that’d be a great game mode.
That list was long!
Hoenn is love, Hoenn is life.
That’d be a bit cruel. I didn’t play Hoenn until after Unova… If anything, they should get free copies of Emerald to experience Hoenn.
There’s nothing bad about not getting the opportunity to play Hoenn.
Now you get to experience the best region ever (Huurrrn) on the 3ds! With 3ds graphics and soundfont!~~~ :3
Oh Hey Blaq, i’m also an aspiring Artist
Behold my Eurthataur
http://i.imgur.com/BRZSOyJ.jpg
The only flaw was the legs and the hands (but everyone knows hands are hard to draw)
It’s radiating testosterone.
There was this one guy was basically a 20 foot Wrestler with huge lips and a wild ponytail beard and like a gajillion Abs
i named him Sledgehammer Jonesy
It’s amazing, especially the head!
tanks
Omg That should be a mascot for a new pokemon game!!! It just seems right!
No way
those things are savage warriors that fight and harvest dangerous game to build weapons
Sounds like the Charr, a playable race of Guild Wars 2.
I’d be a Charr in that game.
Hmmm these relate more to Tauren from Wow
but way more isolated
Charr > Tauren
True, maybe less design and taking aways its weapon can do it but otherwise, it can actually go in final fantasy or wow
a lot of my inspiration comes from real world thing that can go horribly wrong
Like i see a potted bush and then i see a Plant tentacle monster that uses its pot as a shell
or a Laptop that turns into a gaping tooth filled mouth with 8 bit eyes
Haha you have a wild imagination, my friend! I love it!
I spent literally every day of every class from middle school to college drawing crazy and dangerous creatures
and thats the thing i can draw this creatures and machine but never anything normal like a flower, because all i see is a carnivorous plant that want to chew my flesh off and hurl up acid
good work ……… i think mega emboar should have that head
OH YEAH, Agreed!
did u see my my comment below …….. go a head
???, Psychic
Psychic Pokemon
“Legend tells of a Pokemon who first taught Pokemon the power of Psychic and how to manipulate such a power. The power, however, of this Pokemon remains a mystery.”
What if we had Origin Masters in the Pokemon World? They were created from Arceus’ plates to teach Pokemon the power to utilize different types of Plate Powers. Fire Pokemon mated with Grass and thus etc., began the Duel-type Pokemon rise.
The Original Dragon would be the well… original dragon master Pokémon.
Celestial, for that pokemon you spoke of, the one that came from arceus’s shadow
how about instead of fairy/ghost
its ONLY dark type.
and instead of saying “Shed pokemon”
it just says
“malo”
which is latin for evil.
The true Omega Pokémon.
What about Maniackle?
wut bout it?
Not sure if anybody knows this or not, but @rocketclauncher:disqus made my new avatar. He made it for a while ago, and I’ve been using it at Mt. Moon a lot, but I felt it wasn’t getting the proper use there. So I decided to use it as my avatar here 😀
Is that Archeops Pattern Vivillon or just a chibi Archeops?
Archeops Pattern Vivillon 😀 He made it for me, and it was a complete surprise xD
Hello Jessica
Hello Tory
Let’s go to the mall
You won’t be sorry.
I’m not even sure what that means lol
ahh gee thanks arch! xD looking good and if you ever want another one i’d be happy to make it for ya!
Thanks for the offer! If I ever get bored of Archeops, I’ll call you! XD
Do you think Gamefreak should add the Delta Species Pokémon feature from TCG into the actual game? 😮
I don’t think so. Those cards are confusing!
I don’t know how to play TCG, either. (Or any card game for that matter.)
Okay, so I’ve been re watching a couple videos where people talk about their opinions on the news. I just watched Marriland’s again and noticed something when he was showing the map. Lilycove City not only has its Department store, but also a separate pokemart. My question is, Why is this needed, when in the original games, we could buy everything we needed from a regular pokemart in there. Then i got to thinking, what if the department store now sells different things? For example, Lilycove IS known for that large contest hall, whether it be Ruby and Sapphire, or Emerald. Maybe it’s for different things that can improve your performance in contests? OR Maybe it sells more of a variety of items for secret bases? What do you guys think? Sorry if the comment was too long, had a lot to write about…
Maybe that’s a poke accessory store! 😀
That would be really cool!! Makes me wonder if they will change the way contest work and such.
If they sell Apricorn Balls, then I’d be the happiest trainer in existence.
Those types of pokeballs really need to return. My favorite looking one out of all of them was the moon ball.
Mine’s the Fast Ball.
The Fast ball never really appealed to me much. It’s probably because i thought it looked too similar to a normal pokeball.
LOL. Oops. I meant the Level Ball! 😀
OHHH…. I have to say, level ball is probably my second favorite, Love ball coming in third.
Blaq, you should totally draw Mega Zekrom. I’d appreciate that. 🙂
I can’t find any decent artwork of it on the webz.
http://blacklabelsociety.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/spacer.jpg
Such details. Very legit. Much mega. Wow.
11/10
what about a Water/Psychic Octopus legendary that is calm, wise and keeps order kind of a Ocean Law bringer