Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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If we ever get prevos again.
Awww, so cute!
I agree 😮
prevo for a crappy pokemon stat wise?(not competitive because that thing always beats me)
Calm down. We are rating on Kawaii. Magby, Elekid and Smoochum were never this cute.
SMOOCHUM IS SO CUTE I LOVE HER
well if we are rating on Kawaii, 25/10 i would play with it on Amie
Puprush
No
Doggle
Scripup :3
Scribble + Pup
I’ve always had an idea for a Delibird Baby Evo
Chift
Chick + Gift
It would be interesting to see a prevo because of the creepy dex entry where its actually bringing food to it’s babies and when you catch it. Well, you know, the babies don’t get the food and thus die.
Well that’s going to haunt me for the rest of the day
I just say a E-cig commercial for a place in Midland -_-
I came up with a Fakemon FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOREVER
It is a Grass/Dark-Ghost o3o
Post it 😮
Jynx, Electabuzz, and Magmar in Generation 1
Smoochum, Elekid, and Magby in Generation 2
Electevire and Magmorter in Generation 4
Did they forget her? :C
jynx for mega evolution!
Already Trademarked 😉
PREACH IT
Most likely they don’t wanna deal with it anymore cause of the racism controversy 1st gen
People made it controversial, it was never meant to be controversial.
Idk if it was racist or not intentionally. But, if you watch those old racist ass cartoons (sambo) they look VERY similar to jynx. So , I understand where people were coming from
True. However, as Elsa belts out, “The past is in the past!” And if TrollFreak wants to move forward, they must bring Mega Jynx to the table!
I feel like waiting for a new article before I post my third design for a final Pyram evo .-. dunno why.
Post it :O
*new article doesn’t come out until corocoro* LOL
Than you guise are gonna be waiting a long time o___o xD
So no one misses it. That’s a good idea.
Jynx shall rise from the rubble of her castle like a Phoenix! RISE LIKE A PHOENIX, OUT OF THE RUBBLE!
They should go for an Ice Valkyrie
I find it odd that Chesnaught can learn Pain Split via Level Up, but it isn’t a Ghost Type or floats.
Ghost in Shell.
Well it endures so much damage so its able to retaliate with all that damage it just took
I’ll find it more odd if it can’t learn tutor Drain Punch :'( Belly Drum + recovery is interesting, but even if running a more defensive set, it’s a lot better than Hammer Arm >.>
if togekiss can learn drain punch, i am sure chesnaught will learn it
And yet Infernape can’t learn it
Thanks Gamefreak
Bit it can learn stealh rock
But dude
Stab Iron Fist Drain Punch
No I know I’m saying it can’t learn drain punch but it can learn stealth rock, a completely irrelveant move
Well every Fighting Type can learn Rock Moves
I think at the end of the day, Close Combat is stronger than Drain Punch on Infernape
Ehhh Infernape is pretty frail,
But it don’t matter most will choose Mach Punch for Priority Sweep
exactly, drain punch is for bulky attackers like scrafty
Mienshao isn’t bulky
Most run Hi Jump Kick
I choose Mach Punch and Close Combat
Until ORAS comes along.
I think chestnaught should get drain punch and stealth rocks in ORAS.
Heck pull antiher sinnoh and give ALL starters stealth rocks
I’m still confused from infernape learning stealth rocks XD
SR empoleon <3
It’s beast
Just like SR Swampert <3
lol prosecutor used at against me
And my salamence took care of it, let’s just say 😉
DD boosted EQ? that the only way maybe a not boosted EQ but after that i cant see empoleon OHKO by a salamence
Critical XD
SR?
Sour ratchet
Ok?
Ideas are flowing to me 😀
Just around the river bend~
NOOO DX poochahontas
That’s my second fav Disney movie <3
Hated that movie so much and the music is horrible
Can you paint with all the colors of the wind ~
Can you sing with all the voices, of the mountain ~
You can own the earth and still,
all you’ll own is earth untilllll
you can
paint with all the colors of the wind
Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?
Or ask the bobcat why grins?
Can you sing with all the voices of the mountain, can you paint with all the colors of the wind?
Drek frozen < shrek Pochahontas
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3e/d8/23/3ed8230a1daed42aefc16982a7c96e3e.jpg
OH HELL nawwwwwwwwww
I am making a region with 4-5 cities in it XD
Pyroar is amazing 3.3 idk why it’s not used more. I’m using a choice specs one and it’s strong!
OMFG I JUST SIGILYPH SWEPT
;~;
Cosmic Power Stored Power?
Yes he demolished me. U wanna battle on showdown?
Naw busy hatching eggs
with roost and pyscho shift :3 for those rude dark types
Yeah i’ve been experimenting with Sigilyph lately
I have a speedy sweeper and i’m working on a bulky one now
I had that once… Flame Orb + Cosmic Power + Stored Power and I was instantly killed!
I spammed cosmic power and then I spammed psycho shift and then I spammed stored power XD
and roost :3
Yeah that thing is tricky
But still Dark Types will get you
But you can’t really swap out SP for DG
>Switch out from dark types
>Profit
I guess.
But the thing that always flies through my head is what if you can’t switch or the only Pokes you got are weak to psychic
then what you do
put dark type physical moves on your pokemon.
Too OP…Please ban
One hit every thing on my team. : (
That was a fun battle tho 😀
GG! :3
GG indeed my friend GG. .>:)
Why do people waste their time to poison, will-o-wisp, or paralyze Clefable? :O MAGIC GUARD PEOPLE!
That’s why i’m working on a Mold Breaker!
Or something with Unaware
Haxorus has mold breaker and it’s nice for dealing with annoying sturdy/multiscale I don’t know any good unaware Pokemon though. Quagsire?
Ooooh i didn’t consider Haxorus
u forget that thing has BASE 147 ATTACK!
Ikr. It’s on of my fav gen 5 pokemon
All i can think is a Adamant Haxorus
With Outrage!
I run a choice band one. It’s more a of a wall breaker. I don’t really like the dragon dance variant anymore.
I’d rather go for Adamant
Focus Sash
Max HP
Max Speed
D-Dance
Outrage
P-Jab
Rock Slide
Basically rape everything with Outrage
Cosmic power or nah?
flame orb magic guard = love and life
Djja, what EV spread do you use for your Sigilyph?
It was a random battle XD
i’m assuming
Bold
Max Def
Max HP
and the remaining in Sp D
I just sweeped with my Mega-Gardevoir… one Echoed Voice K.O.’ed his whole team…
Does it do more than hyper voice .3.
Yes. After the 4th use, it does around 250-360.
jenn lets showdown! 😀
I won’t let me connect :< it keeps saying *cannot connect to server* ;S;
Over time yeh. It increases in power each turn
Pokemon: JJ DLC 😮
http://i.imgur.com/LozkVzu.png
I love this concept :3
I like that, it’s very unique.
Or level up because I HATE trade evos XD
Trade evo.
But gamefreak, i won’t trade with a stranger and I have no friends 🙁
xD
I know it doesn’t matter, but I enjoy trading fainted pokémon to NPCs. Just for LOLs.
What about full heal?
Idunno a non sick version? 😮
Are you gonna include that in the game?
It’s not mine.
Well I know that but something similar.
Maybe. Could do different items.
Ice type sunflora 😮 Idk XD
Fakemon. Not actual pokemon o_o
I know but like a equivalent to it 😛
Maybe a pokemon a nurse pokemon that evolves when you level it up to 40 holding a max revive!!! 😮
I was thinking more of a spiritual pokemon that uses Full Incense and becomes Buddha like 😮 ”
It is an exotic-smelling incense that makes the holder bloated and slow moving.”
Pokemon buddism
who wants to battle in showdown?
Time for my Sableye to burn everything!
Hopefully this doesn’t start another sableye debate.
Sableye4,2nd Life
Are you earthen friends e.e ? I’m just curious lel
Ehhhhhhhh
a Fair Acquaintance…at best
LOL
He reminds me of this guy i knew in High School
Kinda annoying but never leaved me alone
He went by Gelesby
And i hated his guts
Did he insult you? 😮
Or in other words…
…
Did he burn you? 😉
Too soon
No, he always just followed me and eavesdropped on my conversations
ew stalker manner beat his booty
Why didn’t you beat him up >:o
Because i would be arrested for assault
Oh yeah. Back in my day. If you wanted to fight somebody you fight and the loser takes the ass whopping and goes home. Now people are sueing or calling the police. AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!!!!!!
Trick that Sableye
Its fun to cripple Sableye with Trick or Switcheroo
Ikr. One time I tricked a scarf onto a sableye. It felt sooooooo good
I tricked a Specs on to one once. That was fun
Yveltal with Knock Off
Is that viable. I’ve only ever run Sucker Punch as a physical move on Yveltal.
Not yet, but if it gets that as a Tutor move, just imagine it :O With the huge buff Knock Off got this gen, STAB, AND DARK AURA!!! AND LIFE ORB!!!
#band
I’ve been thinking of trying to learn those sneaky ways
crawdaunt with scald and knock off reks him
Crawdaunt with Scald? New metagame
I heard someone was looking for me
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I was thinking of making a spiritual pokemon that uses Full Incense to evolve and becomes Buddha like 😮
The Description of Full Incense : “It is an exotic-smelling incense that makes the holder bloated and slow moving.”
What animal should I base it on ?
Pufferfish
Reason?
Like how would that work with being Buddha like?
Oh wait there already is a Pufferfish pokemon nvm
A tapir or a raccoon dog
I like Tapirs 😮 Drowzee and Hypno are Tapirs.
Just saw the new season for total drama!!!!! Nice new cast :0 I miss leshwana though ;-; she was my fav! Reminded me of my city
What there is a new season??
Yep!
When does it start?
July 7th on CN.
I can’t wait!!
Total drama island > other seasons XD
Yeah the original is the best :p ( like always) total drama world tour was good though
I liked World Tour it was the most drama i loved it
Total Drama World Tour was probably the best one.
Me too
i loved Total drama action mainly because lindsay lasted the final 6 and duncan won
Heather = new bae
like harold would say BEWWWWBIES
Lighting= best character ever!
OOooooooo u did?
I’ll miss Owen
Because i look exactly like Owen
I thought you were the pingpong table in your picture???? :OO
I wish
Oh Lord Ponginstein gets all the ladies
But none compares to
“The Oracle”
The Oracle is a unicycle
i loved leshawna looks sugar is the white leshawna now
Was Sugar that the Blonde err Heavyset one?
yes sir but i believe she is not going to reach the merge
Awwww
I know perfectly who’s going to merge :I Is obviously.
I love you cause’ u watch Total Drama. BTW Leshawna is my fav. character too :O
Why am I listening to OK!?
Oh wait it is a good theme duh
Ok.
lel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsYrrOLxpSw
ily
OK!
not ok u fat
~OK!~ is still the best japanese opening 😉
However, I disagree
Or the advanced heroes one because I think that has the beat to heroes of hoenn automatically making it the best
Shocker in the World Cup. The reigning champs…The first to get kicked out.
Adios Spain
HOLAND HOLAND HOLAND
I need a name for my region….
v Stuff below v
Ignia
From “Ignis”
Strong Badia
-Some stuff-
It is a relatively new region with only around 3 large town and it has a long history before it was declared a region.
It has a history of murder, it has the God Spire (Built by Kanto natives and built in the mountains) be what was an asylum but now a mysterious power is resonating from the top of the tower.
The people who lived in the region never built up and led simple lives.
OH MY GOD total drama pahkitw island episodes are already online but in italian lol
That Max Kid is a wiener
he is like the villian for the moment there another bad guy hiding;)
nope evil-wannabe wiener
exactly:3
I love the main antagonist <3